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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy Charlamagne the guy. We are to

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. You got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 3: That's right, US Representative of Minnesota and twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: presidential candidate Dean Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Well Unison, Good morning, gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I'm humbled. I'm really humbled to

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Speaker 1: be with you guys. I'm doing it great, happy to

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Speaker 1: be in Manhattan, happy to be on this journey, and

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Speaker 1: happy to be with you guys.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with why why jumping into this crazy race?

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Speaker 1: Well, because I'll be alive to see the fruits of

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Speaker 1: our labor. That's one reason I think it's time for change.

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Speaker 1: I'm sick of a country that makes all these promises,

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Speaker 1: doesn't fulfill any And when I went to Congress in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I was just disgusted. Now I understand what's

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Speaker 1: so damn wrong in our country and why this system

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Speaker 1: defeats everybody here, and I want to do something about it.

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Speaker 1: I lost my dad in Vietnam. He gave his life

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Speaker 1: to the country. The least I can do is pay

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Speaker 1: something back and the way to do it is to

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Speaker 1: try to change stuff. And I'm really frush stra and

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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed and the lack of courage in Washington and

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Speaker 1: Congress in this country right now. I think it's time

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Speaker 1: for our generations to rise and stop this nonsense and

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Speaker 1: actually realize what we can be and reclaim some of

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Speaker 1: the principles and values I think we all share. And

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Speaker 1: I'm really pissed off, to be honest with you. What

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Speaker 1: is pissed off?

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Speaker 4: What is wrong with our country?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think our country was founded on the premise

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Speaker 1: that all are created equal and we've never fulfilled it.

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Speaker 1: And that's just true in so many cases. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Washington is such a culture of rewards for the wealthy

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Speaker 1: and the well connected, and it's this little capsule, it's

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Speaker 1: this little like balloon, if you will, that is so

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Speaker 1: disconnected from reality. And we have a system that breeds

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Speaker 1: and rewards sticking around there and staying there and nobody

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Speaker 1: gets out and listens. And I got it. I've only

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Speaker 1: been doing this two months.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Look, I come from Minnesota. I'm a white congressman from

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Speaker 1: a suburban Minneapolis district. I thought I knew shit. I

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Speaker 1: thought I knew people. I thought I knew it was wrong.

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Speaker 1: But boy, until I've been traveling country and going to

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Speaker 1: either complain about it and argue about and yell about

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Speaker 1: do something about it. I still think we can do

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Speaker 1: something about it. And I just want to be that voice.

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Speaker 1: It's a lonely voice some days, but that's what I

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Speaker 2: Always ask, so, what do you think about the job

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Speaker 2: that Biden has done so far? And jumping on with Charlamagne, said,

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Speaker 2: what do you think he could have done better?

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Speaker 1: Look, you know, I respect our president and I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad he won in twenty twenty because he saved us.

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Speaker 1: He can't do it again. He's not electable. But to

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Speaker 1: answer your question directly, which I know is rare for politicians,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a lot of promises, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of promises. A lot of people promise to

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Speaker 1: do this and that, and then they get into office

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Speaker 1: and then they you know, they love the seats and

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Speaker 1: you will and don't do a whole lot. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a good man. I think he served our country well.

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Speaker 1: But when you've been there for fifty years you've never

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Speaker 1: had life experience outside of Washington, d C. It changes you, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just does you know. I come at

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Speaker 1: it from a different angle. I don't want to condemn

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Speaker 1: him and demean him, but I think he's let a

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Speaker 1: lot of people down, and I want to do something differently.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's time to stop rewarding the wealthy

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Speaker 1: and can change this nonsense. Because you know, we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot. We spend a trillion dollars a year. You

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Speaker 1: know that, a trillion dollars a year defending defending ourselves, right,

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Speaker 1: but look, we got people sleeping in the streets, kids

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Speaker 1: going to school, hungry. You know, racial wealth gaps that

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Speaker 1: are just disgusting. We have education gaps, we have housing gaps.

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Speaker 1: We food and fuel are too expensive, and we're spending

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Speaker 3: So you know what, we got money for wall, we

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Speaker 1: Bingo and I'm sick of it. And look at I

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Speaker 1: you know, we're my dad's dog tag here. You know.

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Speaker 1: He died in a helicopter crash in Vietnam and nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty nine, three days after we landed on the moon,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and by the way, his helicopter was

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Speaker 1: a total mosaic of America. A couple of black guys,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think about all those soldiers then,

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Speaker 1: you know, looking up at the moon and saying, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: this is like America at its very very best and

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Speaker 1: looking down at their boots and seeing us at our

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Speaker 1: very very worst. You know, and we're still that country.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can still go to the moon, or

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Speaker 1: we can still be the country that's looking down at

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Speaker 1: our boots. And I'm just I want to do the former.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy, You think the moonshot shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: going to outer space. Let's take care of stuff right here.

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Speaker 2: Oh got to say, that's crazy. My dad actually flew

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Speaker 2: helicopters really and fax helicopters Vienna.

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Speaker 1: No kidding, absolutely, Why is he still living? He's still

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Speaker 1: laugh I'd love live seriously. I could just tell a

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Speaker 1: And I for thirty years I was trying to find

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Speaker 1: And I just suspected, you know, suspected that he didn't

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Speaker 1: I emailed that email address I had. I got a

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Speaker 1: And I got to I traveled there and gave tom

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Speaker 1: I told him that my dad would have wanted me

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Speaker 1: you asked me what I want to do, that's what

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Speaker 3: Did you have any conversations about like your father's last moment?

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Speaker 1: So, you know, he said that, well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: it was a powerful moment, you know.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, question, was there like an unwritten agreement in Washington

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Speaker 1: Such an example of Washington, You know, nobody ever says

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Speaker 1: and he did. I think he's doing himself in the

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Speaker 1: country a huge disservice. But I can't say he told

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Speaker 1: But I think that's what we all expected. And that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm disappointed because Democrats were disappointed that he was

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Speaker 1: running again. But god forbid you actually get in front

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you that, are you worried about

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Speaker 3: the future of your political career after this? Do you

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Speaker 3: have a future in politics after this?

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Speaker 1: Not after becoming president? You know? Seriously? You know, well,

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Speaker 1: I look at, well, we can talk a lot of stories,

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Speaker 1: but I woke up the morning after the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 1: I had a really nice life. You know. We had

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Speaker 1: built belvid Or vodka and sold it and built tlenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a great story to tell you on

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Speaker 4: One dame and all it breaking down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, okay, I'll tell the Belvedere story. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is actually a good one. So in nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: polls said you fathered you my father. Oh, so, my

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Speaker 1: dad died in Vietnam. I was six months I'll tell

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Speaker 1: My dad was twenty six when he was killed. I

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Speaker 1: was six months old. My mom was twenty four and widowed.

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Speaker 1: By the way, my dad grew up poor in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Dad his dad died my grandpa when he was a kid.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't afford college. He earned an ROTC scholarship and

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Speaker 1: into an amazing family of success in philanthropy. My grandma

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Speaker 1: to Poland to try to sell some of our stuff.

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Speaker 1: We made snops of all things. But we get to

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Speaker 1: It was Chopan vodka at the duty free store. And

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Speaker 1: then we also discovered Belvitere, and we changed our whole

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Speaker 1: the importers of this beautiful vodka. My dad, on the

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Speaker 3: I remember, why didn't y'all give like, why didn't y'all

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Speaker 1: So what we did isn't really pay anybody, but we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, first of all sharing equities. Well,

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, well let me go. Let me just I

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Speaker 1: But let me talk about you asked about why Armadale

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Speaker 1: people who I respect. They all said I was crazy

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Speaker 1: out of my mind at torpedo my career. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to lose. So I did it. And what they didn't

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Speaker 1: The reason they thought I'd lose is I was running

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Speaker 1: in a district, this suburban district in Minneapolis that had

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Speaker 1: not elected a Democrat since nineteen fifty eight. And that's

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Speaker 1: how deep read it was. And the guy that won

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, the Republican, he won by fourteen points.

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Speaker 1: So people thought I was nuts and I had to

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Speaker 1: do it, and I did and we won, beat the

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Speaker 1: guy by twelve points.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And we did it with the most simple strategy you

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Speaker 1: can imagine, invitation instead of confrontation. And the biggest issue

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Speaker 1: with politics is that people who grew up in politics

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Speaker 1: think that by demeaning and diminishing and ignoring and yelling

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Speaker 1: at fifty percent of the country that you can succeed.

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Speaker 1: And when I'm in business, I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: can succeed if you call your customers idiots or deplorables

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Speaker 1: or jerks or morons, you know, And that's how politicians operate.

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Speaker 1: So I invited people. I didn't care their politics, I

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Speaker 1: care about their principles, and we won and that's why

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Speaker 1: I did it. And I you know, it was a moment.

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Speaker 1: We all have those moments, you know, either stand up

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Speaker 1: or your shush up and sit down. My party wants

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Speaker 1: me to shush up and sit down. But it's funny

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Speaker 1: because my party at that day in twenty sixteen, the

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Speaker 1: day after the election, party, my party wanted me to

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Speaker 1: stand the heck up, And now they're telling me to

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Speaker 1: sit down. You know, that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: I find interest in.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden said, he said himself that he thinks that

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Speaker 3: at least fifty other Democrats could beat Trump. So with

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Speaker 3: that said, why don't more people primary him? Why why

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Speaker 3: didn't people take that at an invitation?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Charlott mane because nobody, nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: go through what I'm going through right now, which is

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Speaker 1: the most vicious, atrocious, aggressive attacks you can possibly imagine.

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Speaker 1: And now I say, oh yeah, man, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's aggressive. I mean two months ago I was

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Speaker 1: a darling and the Democratic Party and now I'm the devil.

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Speaker 1: And I knew that. And by the way, I knew

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Speaker 1: that I knew what I was getting into. But you

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Speaker 1: asked the question, why don't others do it? Well, most

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Speaker 1: people don't want to be subject to it. Most people

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Speaker 1: want to protect their image and their future and their

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Speaker 1: their career. And that's why you have all these sheep

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Speaker 1: in Washington falling in line, constantly saying the same thing

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Speaker 1: based on the talking points, because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: do anything to hurt the next chance to be reelected.

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Speaker 1: So when I did this, I knew my career in

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Speaker 1: Congress was done, and it is. And when I called

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Speaker 1: other candidates whose names are much better known than me,

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Speaker 1: they all said basically, they said no because they knew

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Speaker 1: what they would be subject to. And I just wish

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Speaker 1: more people had the courage to stand up right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 3: So why don't they When I think about stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: why don't they go after the Joe Mansions and the

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Speaker 3: Christian Cinema?

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Speaker 4: Is the way you're doing?

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Speaker 3: Meaning like, when Joe Mansion in Christian Cinema was blocking

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Speaker 3: progress and blocking his agenda, are they threatening them like

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Speaker 3: that behind the scenes?

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Speaker 1: I sure doesn't seem like it. By the way, all

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Speaker 1: I'm doing is practicing democracy. You guys. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: this country was founded on the notion that we would

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Speaker 1: not have coron nations. You know that we would have elections,

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Speaker 1: that we would practice democracy, and damn sometimes we do it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: most of the time we don't. But it's really concerning

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Speaker 1: that we have two parties right now. By the way,

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Speaker 1: George Washington involved people warned us against factions. He warned

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Speaker 1: us two hundred and some years ago that this experiment

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Speaker 1: would fail if we allowed factions political parties to take over.

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Speaker 1: And they have. And that's part of the system because

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Speaker 1: you know, when you are when something's at risk, you

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Speaker 1: need to make your case. This is what Trump did

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Speaker 1: to everybody in the Republican Party, right. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you so much as whispered something bad about him, he

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Speaker 1: would crush you, which is why the right he would

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Speaker 1: crush it. Well, what do you think democrats? Don't think

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Speaker 1: Democrats operate the same way, just behind the scenes, behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, trying to crush And that's the way.

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Speaker 3: I would love if they did it upfront, like if

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Speaker 3: they if the way Trump calls out people in his party,

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Speaker 3: if Biden did that, demagin the cinema at least we

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Speaker 3: see them fighting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I want to have You ever seen

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Speaker 1: Biden fight you? First of all, I mean he's a

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Speaker 1: good man, he's eighty one years old. But you know

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Speaker 1: he's not here today, He's not He doesn't He won't

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Speaker 1: even take my calls. I called him twice just to

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Speaker 1: be I think it's the right thing to do when

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Speaker 1: you when you challenge somebody, you're going to say something

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Speaker 1: about somebody, you know, be a man. Call him right,

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Speaker 1: And I did, And he doesn't even want to take

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Speaker 1: my calls. I wish you would stand up in front

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Speaker 1: of the microphones and express himself. I wish you would.

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Speaker 1: I wish you would debate me. I mean, how the

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Speaker 1: heck in this country in the twenty first century can

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Speaker 1: you go through a campaign and not debate, not show up,

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Speaker 1: not ask answer questions? You know, I mean, come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: You know Biden that he said that Trump is the

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Speaker 3: end of democracy as we know it, which I agree with.

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Speaker 3: But isn't him skipping out on the lack of democracy too?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for saying it, Thanks for just saying the quiet

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Speaker 1: part out loud. Seriously, Charlemagne, man, that's exactly what I'm

538
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Speaker 1: trying to say, how can Democrats say we're fighting for democracy,

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Speaker 1: we're fighting to make voting easier, and then yet removing

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Speaker 1: me from the ballot in Florida and North Carolina. How

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Speaker 1: can you say you are for free speech and protecting

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Speaker 1: freedom and democracy and not even consent to doing one debate? Now,

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Speaker 1: how can you say this? How can you say to

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Speaker 1: Right now they're saying this to voters in New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: that their vote doesn't count, that this is a meaningless primary.

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Speaker 1: And it's true, by the way, Democratic voters in Florida,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina and New Hampshire, their votes don't count because

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Speaker 1: in two states there isn't going to be a Democratic

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Speaker 1: primary and the other state there is, and their votes

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Speaker 1: aren't going to matter. And this is the United States

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Speaker 1: of America. So look, I was in the House Chamber

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Speaker 1: on January sixth. I know what an insurrection is like,

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Speaker 1: I know who inspired it and who promoted it. And now, frankly,

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Speaker 1: Democrats are doing something to democracy that I think is

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Speaker 1: just as dangerous as the insurrection because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, one was to prevent the counting of ballots,

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Speaker 1: and right now the Democratic Party is literally trying to

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Speaker 1: prevent names from being added to ballots and people from

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Speaker 1: even voting on those ballots. So that's the truth, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to hear it. They don't want me

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Speaker 1: to say it. But guys, man, someone's got to listen.

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Speaker 3: This isn't noodle. I mean, they kind of did the

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Speaker 3: same thing to Bernie until he's sixteen. Right.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I had to apologize to Bernie. I've had

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Speaker 1: I have, I tell you, guys, in the last five years,

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Speaker 1: it's living a whole lifetime. I used to think Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders was a sore loser. I'm inconsequential and now that

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Speaker 1: I'm going through the same thing this maybe I wish

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Speaker 1: everybody would go through life like this. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: going through the same thing. And now I discovered he

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Speaker 1: was right, and I did a tweet. I apologize to

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Speaker 1: him because Mary Anne Williamson, by the way, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about her. She's a real person of courage.

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Speaker 1: You know. We gotta love for Mary and she comes

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Speaker 1: up here. She's not here quite a lot it, man,

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Speaker 1: she you know she doesn't. First of all, MSNBC has

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Speaker 1: not extended a single invitation to me in the last

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Speaker 1: two months, despite being a sitting member of Congress, a

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Speaker 1: member of a former member of House leadership and the like.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can't find platform. And I want to

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Speaker 1: salute her courage too. She's in the race. She's shown

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Speaker 1: up right. We had a debate the other day. We're

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Speaker 1: having one tomorrow on News Nation. I just wish more

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Speaker 1: people would show up and speak the truth. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of people working to keep us from the truth,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really sick of it. And if my mission

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Speaker 1: in life is to say the quiet part out loud,

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Speaker 1: so be it. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm got a question, So, why why a Democrat over

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Speaker 2: Republican right? Because most I don't want to say most people,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people in your position, who has

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Speaker 2: a net worth of rich why.

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Speaker 1: Trying to say, just come on, just say it.

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Speaker 2: Hundreds of million dollars again? You know your slogan is

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Speaker 2: making America affordable Again. People look at you and say, well,

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Speaker 2: why not Republican right? Because usually Democrats have high taxes

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Speaker 2: and attack people like yourself that make hundreds of millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars because they want more money for the people

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Speaker 2: to afford, and that will be cutting into a lot

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Speaker 2: of the profits that you make. And you are such

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Speaker 2: a successful business person with all the companies that we name.

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Speaker 2: So why Democrat?

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Speaker 1: So look, I've never walked in your shoes, and you

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Speaker 1: guys not in mind. But the place I come from, Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: has a really dark history and it really informs who

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Speaker 1: I am and what I believe. And in the nineteen forties,

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis was one of the most anti Semitic and racist

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Speaker 1: cities in America. You wouldn't have known it, and it

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Speaker 1: took a young mayor named Hubert Humphrey who was in

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Speaker 1: his twenties, to call attention to it and set up

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Speaker 1: a civil rights commission. Back in the nineteen forties, Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: hospitals would not allow Jewish physicians to practice on their staff.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't allow black physicians. If you were black, Jewish,

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Speaker 1: or Greek, you had to prepay your hospital bill in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: This is in post war Minneapolis, and my family became

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Speaker 1: very deeply engaged in trying to correct these wrongs. The

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Speaker 1: Black community in Minneapolis right now, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: lives in North Minneapolis. That's where the Jewish community had

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Speaker 1: to live. Why because of redlining. It was a very

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Speaker 1: kind of a shared history. And why I'm a Democrat

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Speaker 1: Because I saw firsthand, and I come from a place

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Speaker 1: which there was such extraordinary injustice, and a Democrat is

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Speaker 1: the one against all odds. A white man named Hubert

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Speaker 1: Humphrey is the first one to do something about it.

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Speaker 1: And have you guys heard his speech at the nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty eight please everybody listening, Hubert Hubert H. Humphrey, nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty eight Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. This is when

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Speaker 1: strom Thurmond and all those racist Democrats from the South

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Speaker 1: Dixiecrats showed up to the convention. This young mayor from

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis gets up on the stage, knowing that he might

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Speaker 1: torpedo his career, and he says to the Democrats gathered there,

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Speaker 1: it's time for Democrats to get out of the shadows

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Speaker 1: of states rights and into the bright sunshine of human rights.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's hard to not recognize that that

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Speaker 1: was the moment that actually started giving permission to Democrats

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Speaker 1: to move into the civil rights era. And it's not

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Speaker 1: well known. There's I don't think there's video of it.

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Speaker 1: That may be why people don't know about it, but

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Speaker 1: I think it was the one of the most important

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Speaker 1: speeches of the modern era because half of that audience

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Speaker 1: walked out of the arena that day, and I come

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Speaker 1: from that place, and that's why I'm so proud to

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Speaker 1: be a Democrat. Hubert Humphrey also said the moral test

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Speaker 1: of a government is how it treats those in the

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Speaker 1: dawn of life, the dusk of life, and the shadows

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Speaker 1: of life. And I just think it's our responsibility, especially

647
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Speaker 1: those of us who have been really lucky and fortunate

648
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Speaker 1: and have had the blessings of this country, have to

649
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Speaker 1: do something to make it the same for others. Why

650
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Speaker 1: should I be in this position just because I got lucky?

651
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: You know? Why if you're just born in a certain

652
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Speaker 1: zip code, does that dictate where your zip code when

653
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Speaker 1: you end your life will be. You know, It's just

654
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Speaker 1: it's not right. And I'm just sorry about the Democratic

655
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Speaker 1: Party making all these promises and talking up a game

656
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Speaker 1: that they never seem to really fulfill and never get

657
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Speaker 1: to it when we have the chance, and we I

658
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Speaker 1: was back away from the bold notions that we talk about,

659
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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I just feel I have a

660
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Speaker 1: calling right now to reimagine, reinvent, relieve and reinspire people.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm a Democrat. It's not about protecting

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Speaker 1: my money. It's about sharing more with people so they

663
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Speaker 1: can have the same damn chance I had. That's what

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Speaker 1: it's about.

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Speaker 3: I know you always talk about wanting to repair our

666
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Speaker 3: broken government. Can you really repair its government if we

667
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Speaker 3: don't get ready to fill a.

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Speaker 1: Buster probably not.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, here, look we have two issues. One

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Speaker 1: is the executive branch. I'm running to be an I'm

672
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Speaker 1: a much better executive than I am a legislator. And

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Speaker 1: the answer to the question about the executive branch, darn right,

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Speaker 1: we can reimagine that. You know, when I'm president, we'll

675
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Speaker 1: have a bipartisan cabinet. It's not going to be just

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Speaker 1: a bunch of politicians. I want the best and brightest.

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Speaker 1: I want new positions. I want to fill that White

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Speaker 1: House with extraordinary thinkers, you know. I want to have

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Speaker 1: a youth cabinet. I want to have young people from

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Speaker 1: every state in the country who are sharing ideas with

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Speaker 1: the president. I'm going to have common ground dinners in

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Speaker 1: the White House. Not the black tie affairs for celebrities

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Speaker 1: and heads of state, which we'll do too, but every

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Speaker 1: month I'm going to have a dinner with just averaged,

685
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Speaker 1: everyday normal Americans. From all around the country to sit

686
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Speaker 1: casually with their president and have dinner. We're going to

687
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Speaker 1: do it differently in the Congress now. The film buster

688
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Speaker 1: is a total construct of Democrats and Republicans making their

689
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Speaker 1: own rules. It's not constitutional. It's not something that we

690
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Speaker 1: have to do. We are a majority country, right, the

691
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Speaker 1: majority should rule, but the minority should have rights right

692
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Speaker 1: when it comes to politics, and no, I think the

693
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Speaker 1: filibuster should be eliminated. And I think we should have

694
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Speaker 1: term limits. I think we need term limits in the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court for members of Congress. We have too many

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Speaker 1: people who are just there to stick around. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, if you're all you're doing is protecting your position,

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Speaker 1: of course you're not going to be helping many people

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Speaker 1: because if you do, you're taking risks, and nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to take risks in Washington. And that's a big part

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Speaker 1: of the problem. It's a really broken system.

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Speaker 3: What would you say to people who say you're running

703
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Speaker 3: a pointless campaign?

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Speaker 1: Huh? I just wish those people could come along with

705
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Speaker 1: me for just one day and hear the stories and

706
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Speaker 1: meet the people and see what I'm seeing, you know,

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Speaker 1: because if this is pointless, boy, I'm aghast, you know,

708
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Speaker 1: because this is the most beautiful experience I've ever had

709
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Speaker 1: in my life. It's the most exciting, joyful, the most heartbreaking,

710
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Speaker 1: the most inspiring, you know, the most soul searching, you know.

711
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Speaker 1: And if you think this is pointless, or you think

712
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Speaker 1: I'm a buffoon or a fool or don't have a chance, hey,

713
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, this is a nation of long shots. And

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Speaker 1: I don't care where you come from this country. Anybody

715
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Speaker 1: can do it. And if I can, just if I

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Speaker 1: can inspire one person to give something a shot, or

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Speaker 1: to take that jump or do the unthinkable, stand up

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Speaker 1: and have a little bit of courage. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: this would be me, you know. Five years ago, I

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Speaker 1: thought i'd be running my coffee shops, you know, being

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Speaker 1: a dad and thinking about where I wanted to spend

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Speaker 1: my last chapter. Right and here I am. And I

723
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Speaker 1: don't know why we're putting these positions, but if you

724
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Speaker 1: don't seize the moment, shame on you. And I don't

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Speaker 1: see anybody seizing the moment. That's why if you call

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Speaker 1: it pointless, say more power to you. But I'm going

727
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Speaker 1: to keep on keeping on.

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Speaker 3: You did an event in New Hampshire one is it

729
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Speaker 3: not one person showed up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like that one literally, Well, here's the

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Speaker 1: funny this is I'm so glad you bring that up

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Speaker 1: because Twitter, you know, we have so we have all

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Speaker 1: we have about probably six or seven young reporters that

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Speaker 1: follow me around and in the cold, and they bring

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Speaker 1: their cameras and it's a tough job, right and we

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Speaker 1: I was speaking at a college convention at a hotel

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Speaker 1: in Manchester, New Hampshire. So I have a nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: International Harvester metro van. We call it the Government repair

739
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Speaker 1: truck and that's what I drive around and I serve coffee.

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Speaker 1: This is my way to get people come up and

741
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Speaker 1: say hi. And we simply brought some coffee outside. We

742
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Speaker 1: parked the truck in front of the hotel because we

743
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Speaker 1: thought these kids were going to come on buck When

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Speaker 1: I say kids, college students were going to come on buses,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be nice to give them a

746
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Speaker 1: cup of coffee right in the morning. Well, little did

747
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Speaker 1: we know that the buses or cars parked in the

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Speaker 1: garage and they came in through another entrance. So I

749
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Speaker 1: was just sitting out there alone. But these reporters know

750
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Speaker 1: that if they can make me look you know, like

751
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Speaker 1: lonely or sad or like you know, nobody's shown up.

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Speaker 1: That that's their viral opportunity. So guy posts it gets

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Speaker 1: like four million views on that post, and then an

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Speaker 1: hour later he posted a picture of me playing bingo

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Speaker 1: at a retirement center.

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Speaker 4: I saw that picture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that got about four thousand views. The one

758
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Speaker 1: of me sitting in my coffee truck, you know, with

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Speaker 1: nobody coming up to it got four million views. What

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Speaker 1: does that say? Think about it? What does that say?

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Speaker 1: We are rewarding snark. You know, we're not rewarding sweet.

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Speaker 1: We're not rewarding sweet. So, yeah, nobody showed up. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, that happens. A lot happens a lot,

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Speaker 1: so be it. Some days you got hundreds of people,

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Speaker 1: some days nobody shows up. You got to keep going, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep going. And anyway, but that's

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Speaker 1: how that stuff kind of works.

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Speaker 3: Do you think debates when between candidates when Biden or

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Speaker 3: Trump isn't there, you think those are pointless? Because you

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Speaker 3: know you and Mary Ann Williamson debated in New Hampshire

771
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Speaker 3: on Monday. Nikki and Ron de sand just debated yesterday.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, why y'all going at each other like

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Speaker 3: the big fish aren't even here?

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Speaker 1: Wey, you got you gotta do something. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: want us to not debate, they want us to just

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Speaker 1: go away. You know. I say, let's run to the fire,

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Speaker 1: let's stop it. Let's not turn it over to them,

778
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Speaker 1: because they are the ones that are doing an injustice.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not serving democracy by doing this. Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump certainly not serving democracy. I really give credit to

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Speaker 1: people who are willing to get on that stage when

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Speaker 1: you only got f Look, I think I'm at like

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Speaker 1: two or three percent in the polls. No one knows.

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Speaker 1: The best thing about not being known is two thirds

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00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: of the country doesn't hate me yet, you know. So

786
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm out there pounding the pavement. If mary An Williamson

787
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Speaker 1: and I didn't do this, there would not be anything

788
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Speaker 1: on TV about Democrats at all. Right now, we'd be

789
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: handing it over only the GOP every single night doing

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Speaker 1: their debates. I wish these guys were debating even just once.

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Speaker 1: How is it even reasonable that they can't? So, I

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Speaker 1: don't have an answer for you, Charlemagne. I think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to keep debating. We do it in

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Speaker 1: a very friendly way because we are respectful. People with

795
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Speaker 1: dignity want to call attention to the issues. And if

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Speaker 1: we we're going to keep doing it. And if people

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Speaker 1: I'll start showing up, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Is Biden's name even all the debates? Because I read

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Speaker 3: in Michigan they're doing a Democratic primary debate. And if

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Speaker 3: I thought I read correctly, I thought it said you

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Speaker 3: President Biden and Mary Anne Wims.

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Speaker 1: Or I haven't read that.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm trivin out.

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Speaker 1: I hope, boy, I hope so, because I think he

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Speaker 1: has If there is an article Yesterd're in the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post that said that Joe Biden is gathering small groups

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Speaker 1: of his wealthy donors in the White House to give

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Speaker 1: them confidence in his abilities because they're worried. And I

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Speaker 1: thought to myself, well, if he's doing that privately in

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Speaker 1: the White House, why not show up in debate. Why

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Speaker 1: not show the country the same thing. Right, if you've

812
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Speaker 1: got it and you're ready to go, come up and debate, right,

813
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Speaker 1: answer questions, hold press conferences. He won't do any of

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Speaker 1: those things. I did not. I don't think he's debating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this is old.

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Speaker 4: It's a secretary of.

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Speaker 1: Maybe from twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three, Secretary Jocelyn Benson released the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: presidential primary candidate list, as required by Michigan law, and

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Speaker 3: it says the Democratic Party it was you, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: That's just the people that'll be on the ballot. No,

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Speaker 1: he should debate, guys, he should debate, just at least once,

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Speaker 1: for goodness sakes. I don't understand any of this nonsense.

824
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Speaker 1: But you know you don't. Look, I've been in this

825
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: business only for six years. I know the game. You

826
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Speaker 1: don't want. The only reason you don't debate is because

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Speaker 1: you don't want to give platform to your opponent and

828
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Speaker 1: you're worried. You know, if you're strong, you're confident, you know,

829
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you debate. The only times you don't do

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Speaker 1: it is if you are not confident. Joe Biden and

831
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump are not confident men right now. Let me

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Speaker 1: assure you. That's the only reason they're not shown up

833
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: because they know if they got on that stage, it

834
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be easy for him.

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Speaker 3: What happens to the America if Biden loses a Trump?

836
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Speaker 3: No hyperbole, no exaggeration, What do you think happened to

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Speaker 3: the America? I Biden loses the Trump.

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Speaker 4: Look at it.

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Speaker 1: We've become so used to this notion that democracy is

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Speaker 1: at risk. Well, let me tell you. I was in

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Speaker 1: the House Chamber on January. I watched that speech that

842
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: Trump inspired the insurrection, call it whatever the heck you want,

843
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: a riot, an insurrection, a mob. I was there, and

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Speaker 1: I was in the White House with Trump. I sat

845
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Speaker 1: across the table with him. Here's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: In his first term. He was able to attract some

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Speaker 1: people of integrity. And I say that having worked with

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Speaker 1: some of them. I passed a bill that he signed

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Speaker 1: into law. He had staff that I really respect. In fact,

850
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: I respect more to this day because I know that

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Speaker 1: they torpedoed their careers by serving our country and serving

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Speaker 1: in that administration. Turn up the clock to now. The

853
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: man is on a revenge tour. The man will not

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00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: be able to attract anybody of integrity, mark my words.

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Speaker 1: And he is on a mission to literally destroy every

856
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Speaker 1: single institution of democracy. How do you destroy institutions of democracy?

857
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: You depopulate them. Everybody of integrity, of competency, who's serving

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Speaker 1: right now our government. By the way, they work really

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: hard and they make very little money, and it's not

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Speaker 1: an easy job. We're going to loose use a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. And when you lose them, they're either going

862
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: to be replaced with people who are sick offense of

863
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or with people who are incompetent. And as

864
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Speaker 1: he will methodically destroy these institutions, we will no longer

865
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Speaker 1: have that foundation, mark my words. And that's what's at risk.

866
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Speaker 1: And he's, by the way, not just at risk. He's

867
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Speaker 1: going to win if it's Joe Biden at the top

868
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: of the ticket. The whole reason I'm trying to issue

869
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: this wake up call to Democrats who are being deluded

870
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party is he is going to lose.

871
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: Young people in America now favor Donald Trump. Hispanic Americans,

872
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: Latino Americans favor Donald Trump. Eighty three percent of Democrats

873
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: under thirty want a different nominee. The Iowa youth poll

874
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: came out yesterday. Donald Trump got the most votes of anybody,

875
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: followed by Marian Williamson and me. Joe Biden came in

876
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: fourth place in amongst Iowa youth. They could think about

877
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: that the sitting president of the United States, he is

878
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: in deep trouble. He's losing in all the battleground states.

879
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: His approval numbers are the lowest in that think American history.

880
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: And you know what's going on in the black community.

881
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we wake up. Why wouldn't we

882
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: have a competition. Why wouldn't the Democratic Party want to

883
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: have a competition.

884
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: It's very weird.

885
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, why, It's very simple. When you are connected

886
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: to power and privilege and prestige, you want to protect

887
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: it and anything that might disrupt it is a threat.

888
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: It's not about people, it's about the protection of privilege.

889
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: Speaking of people, you talked about Trump destroying institutions. How

890
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: to those institutions being destroyed impact us as American citizens?

891
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know. I think they're well. I think half

892
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: the country right now feels that if we destroy these institutions,

893
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's a good thing. Yeah, right, No, absolutely, And

894
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, you know, I have great animists

895
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: towards Donald Trump. I do not have animists towards people

896
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: who support him, because I think there I understand their anger.

897
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: Democrats have completely completely turned away from rural Americans. I

898
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: think the promise to black Americans that it's never been fulfilled.

899
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I understand why people are anger and pissed off work

900
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Speaker 1: with the very people who are so much more focused

901
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: on just sticking around than sticking it to a system

902
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: that isn't working. Right. So that's a really provocative question.

903
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: I think that's what's going on right now, Charlemagne, is

904
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: that there's a belief in this country that maybe it

905
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: is time to tear everything down rather than reimagine it,

906
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe reinvent it, maybe replace some of it. I'd like

907
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: to spread out, by the way, I think the federal

908
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: government should be located all around this country. I think

909
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: we should have maybe the egg Department somewhere in Kansas, right,

910
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: maybe the Commerce Department out in California, right, bring something

911
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: up to New York. Let's spread it out, right. But

912
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't think tearing it down is the answer. Democracy

913
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: is fragile and it only works that people participate. And

914
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I think we're in an era now where the lack

915
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: of participation both voters, candidates, public servants is going to

916
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: be really, really challenging, and I'm really worried. But I

917
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: think your question is one that we should all be

918
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Speaker 1: thinking about.

919
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we have these discussions, we always talk about

920
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: you know what these issues will do as far as

921
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: the election is concerned, and this is going to cause

922
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: this person to lose, that person to lose if this

923
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: person gets in, they'll tear down institutions. Well what does

924
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: that mean for us the people? Because like you said,

925
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: these people like that, it's like tear it down. I

926
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: don't like that bi anyway, or I don't like diar.

927
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that you just you really provoked me,

928
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Speaker 1: because it's another reason I'm doing this if I feel

929
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: this is one of our last chances to really demonstrate

930
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: that we can do this, and it's going to take

931
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: a very different approach. It can't be one party or

932
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: the other, just fifty percent of the country trying to

933
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: get it done if we really don't find some way

934
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Speaker 1: to work together. Abraham Lincoln had his team of rivals.

935
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: You know, he literally invited his arch rivals to sit

936
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Speaker 1: at the table with him. Most brilliant move in American leadership,

937
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: I think literally maybe in human history, to invite your

938
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: biggest adversaries to sit at your table. That's exactly what

939
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: we need right now, because if you don't see yourself

940
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: represented in that White House. When I say everybody should

941
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: see themselves represent in that White House. We're going to fail.

942
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing about Trump. He's watched President

943
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: she he's watched Vladimir Putin basically become presidents for life.

944
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: You don't think, you don't think, come twenty twenty eight,

945
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: he's going to say, you know what, I think I'm

946
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: going to stick around another four.

947
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: Years saying that.

948
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Speaker 1: Of course, of course, of course that's what's going to happen,

949
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: and talk about the end of democracy. What better represents

950
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: the end of democracy than someone who says I'm going

951
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: to forego the basics of American democracy.

952
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: What could the Biden administration do to energize people and

953
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: reverse what we've seen we've been seeing in the polls,

954
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: if anything, And when I say administration, I mean him

955
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Speaker 3: and the vice president, Well.

956
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Speaker 4: If they even can.

957
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: Envy, I think you just hit the nail on the head.

958
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: I've been in I've been in the consumer products business

959
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: pretty much my whole life, and marketing and packaging, right,

960
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, I know when a product it's kind of

961
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: reached the end of its kind of life cycle, when

962
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: people have kind of moved on. People have moved on,

963
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: and by the way, The truth is this, people have

964
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: moved on from both these guys.

965
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, they're.

966
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: Really you know, my sense of listening to people is

967
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: that people are really ready to turn the page. It's

968
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: not just age, it's not just these two specific men.

969
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: It's really like there's this yearning to like, let's let's

970
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: do something new, right, let's get back to it, you know,

971
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: I let's feel excited again and that things might be possible.

972
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Everything is so heavy, it's heavy for everybody, and that

973
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: to me is the great opportunity. You know, let's let's

974
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: let's use this. Mike. I had a grandmother that used

975
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: to say, and my father too, Dean, you got to

976
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: turn chicken shit into chicken salad. And I think this

977
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: is the chicken shit that we got to turn into

978
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: chicken salad. And I don't think there's anything Joe Biden

979
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: can do to change this. To be honest with you,

980
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: I think it is fully baked. We live in an

981
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: arrow is once once your brand is hardened, it's really

982
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: hard to change. He might say, well, we've got ninety

983
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: million dollars, and you know, at the end of the day,

984
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: people are going to see it's democracy versus you know, authoritarianism.

985
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: How tired is everybody of just trying to vote for

986
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils?

987
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: You know?

988
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: How cool? They maybe get excited again about good you know,

989
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: some good stuff, and that's my hope. But boy, you guys,

990
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: when only like fifteen percent of Americans turn out and

991
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: vote in primary elections, we don't have the right then

992
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: to get upset in a general election. So I hope

993
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: everyone listening right now. If you really want to, if

994
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: you want to give this one more, try go out

995
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: and vote in the primary and shake it up. Because

996
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: the parties don't want you to vote in the primary.

997
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: They want to coordinate, these guys. But you still have

998
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: the power and this literally might be the last time

999
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: you can literally use your vote and be powerful. And

1000
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: it's true, you know, it's just true. So please vote

1001
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: and let us try to change this nonsense.

1002
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: How do people donate the your campaign.

1003
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Dan twenty four dot com? And I don't consider it

1004
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: a donation. I consider it an investment. You know, I

1005
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: talked about ownership. I want you to own a part

1006
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: of this campaign. You know. I don't want just your money.

1007
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: I want your ideas, I want your time, I want

1008
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: your energy, I want your your commitment. I don't care.

1009
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: I don't care your race, your religion, your geography, your politics.

1010
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: You know. I love everybody, man, and I'm really concerned

1011
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: about parties that are trying to tell us otherwise. I'm

1012
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: tired of entertainment telling us that we're more divided than

1013
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: we really are. So Dan twenty four dot com, if

1014
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: you got five bucks, ten bucks, that's awesome, But more

1015
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: than that, help me spread the word, you know, post

1016
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: something on social media, you know, get people to kind

1017
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: of mobilize and share your ideas. You know, I don't

1018
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: know it all. I got a lot to learn.

1019
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: Question the last question, did you ever go to your

1020
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: miss Abbey for advice?

1021
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I went. Now, well, this is going to

1022
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: surprise you. She came to me and my brother more

1023
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: for advice because she was really when she died. I

1024
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: got her old school rolodex, you know. And what was

1025
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: so interesting about her She would answer every letter. Her

1026
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: team would answer every letter that was sent in. And

1027
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: she didn't have This is me too. I don't know

1028
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: all the answers. But when I don't know an answer,

1029
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: I go to someone who does right. And she did

1030
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. She had a Rolodex for every single

1031
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: topic you could imagine. Wow, she got letters from high

1032
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: school kids particularly. She would send them to my brother

1033
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: and me to get a sense of stuff, you know,

1034
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: what's going on in high school in nineteen eighty three. Right. Yeah,

1035
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: So her advice was, you know, when you don't know

1036
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: the answer, find someone who does.

1037
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: I wonder if a columnist could ever be that famous again,

1038
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: Like I literally just no Dear Abbey from the newspapers,

1039
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: just no.

1040
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: Dear Abbey, because that well, that was the only the

1041
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: newspaper was totally matt. You know, you grew up somewhere

1042
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: and you didn't have anyone to talk to. You didn't

1043
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: have anyone to go to. They were the people you

1044
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: wrote because you'd get an answer from them. Yeah, and

1045
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: that was in the analog era. You know, I don't

1046
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: answer your question. I don't think we're gonna have a

1047
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: columnist like that anytime.

1048
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: Well even a blogger, like even somebody just doing that online.

1049
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if that could.

1050
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: You know, look at Dear Abby. I would argue that

1051
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: Google is now.

1052
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: Dear Acta.

1053
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: It is a million dear Abbeys. Now you got a

1054
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: problem to google it, right, instead of go to it.

1055
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's I think. There's a book

1056
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: called Future Shock written by Alvin Toffler in nineteen seventy.

1057
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: He said that technology is going to go so fast

1058
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: that humans will never be able to catch up. And

1059
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: in a way the fact that has replaced your abbey

1060
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: as part of our big problem. People are going to

1061
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: screens instead of going to each other. Let's come back

1062
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: to each other. All right.

1063
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, there you have it, as deanies and gentlemen, and

1064
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: it was give it to you, give it to me,

1065
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: give me that phone, that the jay Z I.

1066
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: Want to love you.

1067
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: I want to love you.

1068
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: I want to love you.

1069
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a good that's a good way to end this. Yeah,

1070
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: so there goes right, there's Dean Phillips.

1071
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.

1072
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.

1073
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: Good morning, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club.