WEBVTT - Justice Corrupted: FBI STILL Refuses to Take Accountability for Politicization 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.320 Welcome. It is verdict or Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.800 with you. Senator. It was a lot of headlines that 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:10.360 kind of came out of nowhere from the FBI Director 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:12.719 Ray and he had a lot to say in the 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.240 sit down interview with Brett bear Over at Fox News. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.319 And I want to get your reaction first off, to 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:23.439 the FBI Director's inability to answer a very straightforward question 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:29.200 about January the sixth and possible FBI informants here is 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.320 what he was asked and his lack of response, well 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.800 confidence in them and the other Twitter question we get 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.320 a lot is did the FBI have undercover agents or 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.800 paid informants or assets among the mob that stormed the 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.040 capital on January sets Well, as I'm sure you can appreciate, Brett, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.800 I can't really appropriately talk about when, where, and how 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:53.440 we use confidential informants. Is it classified? Well, we have 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.880 information that is about any number of topics that is 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:01.960 law enforcement sensitive. But you should not read into my 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:08.319 inability to answer a question because of my obligations as 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.759 that as a clue or a hint in any way 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:16.679 about how accurate your reader's tweet this I mean, Senator, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.000 that's not a very good answer for a lot of Americans, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.200 that one answers. We are getting a lot of the 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.840 footage it's going to come out of January sixth. Speak 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.600 of the House. Kevin McCarthy's talked about being transparent. He 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.640 believes it was politicized January sixth. Of January sixth committee 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:36.080 was politicized. Are you satisfied with Director Ray's response? Absolutely? Not. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.399 That was a ridiculous answer. And listen, there is a 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:46.040 fundamental problem at the FBI and at the Department of Justice. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.960 It's something that we've talked about a lot on this podcast, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.600 which is that DOJ and the FBI have been profoundly politicized. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.800 The last book I wrote, Justice Corrupted, How the Left 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.520 is weaponized legal system. And by the way, I would 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:05.480 encourage folks go buy that book, I detail how first 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.720 Barack Obama and now Joe Biden have turned dj and 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.880 the FBI into partisan tools they used to attack their enemies. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:20.760 On January sixth, in particular, there are enormous questions about 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.480 the responsibility, the culpability of the FBI and the DOJ. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.840 What did they know, what was their involvement? And listen, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.280 let me say something about Chris Ray. So I've known 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.359 Chris Ray a long long time when I came out 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.680 of law school. I graduated law school in nineteen ninety 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.440 five and the first judge I clerked for was a 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.000 judge named Jay Michael Ludig. He was at the time 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:51.040 the top conservative federal appellate judge of the country. Judge 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.200 Ludig and I were very, very close. He was like 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.040 a second father to me. Judge Ludig was a very 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.200 young judge. He was forty one years old. He had 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.520 been on the Federal Court of Appeals for five years. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.000 He was appointed by George Herbert Walker Bush at age 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.639 thirty six, so he was the youngest federal appellate judge 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.400 in the country. Judge Ludig had been Antonin Scalia's very 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.960 first law clerk the first year Antonin Scalia was on 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.800 the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. And so Judge Ludig 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.720 was someone who was just He was an incredible judge. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.880 He taught me. He was really the first person after 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.680 law school to teach me how to be a lawyer. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.760 So I knew Chris Ray because Chris clerked for Judge Ludig. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.160 I think it was three years before I did so. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.440 I was the fifth year Judge Leigue was on the court. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 I believe Chris was the second year Judge Ludig was 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.720 on the court. And I've known Chris a long time. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.680 Chris is a good guy. He's a very smart lawyer. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.040 He's a very decent man. He loves America. Chris is 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:02.440 not a left wing activist. But I will tell you 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:07.360 I've been incredibly disappointed with the job Chris Ray has 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.120 done as the head of the FBI. And the reason, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.040 and I've had this conversation with Chris directly more than once. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.719 The reason is Chris is fundamentally he's a company man. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:25.159 He's someone who believes his job is defend the FBI. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:30.520 That his responsibility. He's someone who has been at DJ 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.960 a long long time. He was the head of the 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:37.080 Criminal Division under George Herbert Walker Bush. He was someone 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.960 who was a prosecutor for a long time. And he 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:45.479 believes his responsibility is whatever the career lawyers the FBI 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.960 has done, he needs to circle the wagons and defend them. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:55.440 And I have had energetic, at he even screaming conversations 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:00.880 with Chris where I've said, listen, you are not helping 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:08.000 the FBI. When you are defending Democrat partisans who have 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:13.000 corrupted the FBI, who have turned it into a weapon 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.200 to advance the political interests of partisan democrats, it doesn't 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:25.400 help the institutions. It weakens the institution. And on this question, listen, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:31.840 it is a matter of enormous public import to know 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.280 whether the FBI had informants in the January six riots 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:43.400 and what role they played, and as a matter of accountability, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.000 the public interest is massive. Now Chris doesn't want to 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.440 answer that. The FBI doesn't want to answer that because 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.760 the obvious inference from their refusal to answer that is yes, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:01.359 they had FBI informants that participated in the And the 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.839 question that arises from that, and this is something I 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.600 talk about at length in the book Justice Corrupted, is 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:13.440 the extent to which FBI agents or FBI confidential informants 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.080 incited the behavior. So one of the things I talk 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:22.080 about in the book is the plot in Michigan to 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:27.200 kidnap and murder the governor of Michigan, Democrat Gretchen Whitwer. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.760 Now that broke shortly before the twenty twenty election, and 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.400 it was the sort of story that was really fabulously 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:42.360 beneficial for Democrats because Democrats message was those crazy right 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.839 wing Republicans and especially those Trump Republicans, are a bunch 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:51.960 of violent insurrectionist terrorists. They're terrible and we need to 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.720 stop them and so, and it was a national story. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.599 I mean, they played it up. I remember it being 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.800 used Democrats all over the country center that were like, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:06.360 this is something to seize on to basically attack Donald 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.200 Trump on the national election, but also to say you 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.800 don't want Trump Republicans in the House and the Senate, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.400 on the school board, city council. Yeah, they want to 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.240 they want to murder you, and they want to take 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.680 out our politicians. And look, it was designed also for 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:28.080 reasonable people that like, you know, reasonable people don't want 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:33.000 to advocate violent acts of murder and terror. And so 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.680 the media and the Democrats were trying to say, if 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.840 you support Trump and the Republicans, you're in support of 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:43.480 violent acts of terror and mayhem. And with the Gretchen 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.480 Witwer's story, when it broke, you're like, holy crap, they 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.720 want to kidnap and murder a governor. That really sounds bad. Now. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:56.080 When DJ went to trial, what happened is that initially 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.120 when they went to trial, every single one of the 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.000 defendants was their acquitted or had a hung jury. They 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.120 couldn't convict anyone in The principal defense at the trial 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:11.320 was that the FBI engaged an entrapment, that that it 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:17.480 essentially the FBI had placed informants among these right wing 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:22.200 extremist groups. But the argument of defense council was these 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.960 extremist groups were not particularly violent until the FBI informants 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.040 kept saying, Hey, in the great idea to go kidnap 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.160 and murder the governor. And they're like, oh, I'm not sure. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.120 It is like no, no no, no, this is a good idea. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.079 This is a good idea. And the law is that 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.080 you can be prosecuted if you plan or commit an 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.600 act of violence. But the government can't entice you into it. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.480 It can't be their idea. They can't be the cause 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.960 that causes you to go along with the corrupt plan. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.199 And at the trial in front of the jury's I mean, 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:59.880 the Justice Department had a massive black eye because the 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:04.000 defendants prevailed. And by the way, the special Agent in 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:09.480 charge of the Detroit office of the FBI, who had 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.760 this massive debacle of the prosecutions going south, on him 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:20.480 because his agents had engaged in misconduct and incitement, got promoted, 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:25.480 got sent to DC, and got put in charge of 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.920 the January sixth prosecutions. You literally can't make this up. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:35.720 They took the guy who had this enormous black eye. Yeah, 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.600 and they said, you're the right guy to engage in 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:43.920 political prosecutions. And here's what Chris Ray should say and listen. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.680 I hope, as I said, Chris is a friend. I 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.360 hope Chris is listening to this podcast. I doubt he is, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.280 but I hope he is. Here's what Chris ought to do. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:58.680 Chris ought to say publicly. Ordinarily, the FBI does not 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.840 reveal confidential informants, and there are strong law enforcement reasons 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.360 to do that. When we get some guy who goes 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:10.319 undercover into a drug cartel, sure you want to keep 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.280 that guy confidentially. You don't want to out them. So 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.559 in the ordinary course of affairs, we protect those sources. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.000 That being said, the public interest in knowing what happened 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.080 on January sixth, what led to the riots, what led 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.200 to the acts of violence, That public interest is so 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.360 significant that we at the FBI are going to tell 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:34.400 you how many agents did we have in that riot. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.360 How many confidential informants did we have in that riot? 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.200 And I were based on the payroll? Yes, and what 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.200 were their roles in inciting the violent conduct? That is 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:51.120 a matter of enormous public interest, and Chris ray it 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.559 is answered there and consistently he refuses to answer that question. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.960 And I think he's doing a disservice to the American 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:03.120 people by protect the bureaucrats at the FBI rather than 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.840 accepting public accountability. Yeah, there's there's a name that's become 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.480 very famous and it is a name from January six, 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.120 ray Epps. And I want to play something that you 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.200 said about ray Epps when you were talking to the FBI, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.160 because it became senior official at the FBI that I 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.080 was questioning about this. 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Well, there are 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.240 a lot of people who are understandable about mister about 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.200 mister ramps. On the night of January fifth, twenty twenty one, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.840 Epps wandered around the crowd that had gathered, and there's 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.040 video out there of him channing tomorrow, we need to 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.600 get into the capital, into the capital. This was strange behavior, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:08.400 so strange that the crowd began chanting fed fed, Fed, Fed, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:13.520 Fed fed. Miss Sandburn. Was Ray Apps a fed Sir? 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.480 I cannot answer that question. The next day, the next day, 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.920 on January six mister F's is seen whispering to a person, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.559 and five seconds later, five seconds after he's whispering to 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.000 a person, that same person begins to forcibly tear down 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:33.720 the barricades. Did mister Epps urge them to tear down 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.440 the barricades, sir? Similar to the other answers, I cannot 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.360 answer that. Shortly thereafter, the FBI put out a public 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:47.400 post listing seeking information on individuals connected with violent crimes 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.920 on January sixth. Among those individuals in the bottom there 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.120 is mister Epps. The FBI publicly asked for information identifying 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:01.280 offering cash rewards, leading information leading for information leading to 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:06.319 the arrest. This was posted, and then sometime later, magically, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:11.360 mister Epps disappeared from the public posting. According to public records, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.920 mister Epps has not been charged with anything. No one's 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:18.840 explained why a person videoed urging people to go to 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.200 the Capitol. A person whose conduct was so suspect the 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.480 crowd believed he was a FED would magically disappear from 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.600 the list of people the FBI was looking at. Miss Sandburn. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.920 A lot of Americans are concerned that the federal government 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:40.400 deliberately encouraged illegal and violent conduct on January sixth. My 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.800 question to you, and this is not an ordinary law 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.080 enforcement question, this is a question of a public accountability. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.800 Did federal agents are those in service a federal agent 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.840 actively encourage violent and criminal conduct on January sixth? Not 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.680 to my knowledge, sir, I mean sent This seems to 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.680 be the new playbook of anybody in government that doesn't 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.040 want to answer question. They just say it's cloudsified or 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.560 it's an ongoing invastigation. This is exactly what Ray just 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.120 did in a simple question was asked about informants on 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.280 January the sixth. So Chris Ray and the FBI should 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.800 answer these questions. We need to have accountability, we need 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.400 to know Listen with Ray Epps. I don't know the man, 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.160 I never met him, I don't know his background, but 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.720 I will say you watch that video as I have, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.400 as many people have of him. Urging the crowd on 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.600 January fifth, let's go into the Capitol and the crowd 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:43.480 turns on him. They begin chanting fed, fed fed. That's weird, Ben, 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.200 I've never seen anything like that when the crowd is like, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.920 wait a second, why is this guy trying to urge 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:57.360 us to commit a criminal act? Maybe he's a private 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.520 individual with no connection to the FBI. If that's the case, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.640 it raises the question, why wasn't he charged. I mean, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.040 we have video of him urging people to enter the capitol. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.800 They've charged lots of people to enter the capitol. But 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.240 if he was on the payroll of the FBI, then 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:19.920 you had the federal government. You had law enforcement encouraging 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.520 criminal and violent acts. That's a very different scenario. And 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:31.600 to date, the FBI refuses to answer how many FBI 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.480 agents were there on January sixth, one ten, one hundred 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.640 a thousand. I have no idea. And by the way, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.720 a lot of people figure, Okay, you're a senator, you're 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.320 on the Judiciary Committee. The Judiciary Committee has oversight authority 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.360 of the FBI. You know this. They briefed you on it. Nope, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.480 they haven't told us a damn thing. What I know 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.200 is what Chris Ray has said in public because when 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.760 he testifies, and by the way, today Merrick Garland, the 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.360 Attorney General, is testifying in front of us. He's going 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.840 to Stonewall. Because Merrick Garland has been the most political 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:09.440 attorney general we've ever had. And Chris Ray, it's not 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.760 that he's a partisan leftist, it's that he believes his 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.439 job is defend the senior bureaucrats of the FBI. And 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.160 I got to tell you one of the amazing things 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.880 that's happened over the last couple of years. I regularly 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:29.760 get FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors who come to me, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.480 who contact my office and they say, we love the 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.280 Department of Justice, we love the FBI, we believe in 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.800 the law enforcement mission, and we are incredibly unhappy at 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:46.879 the politicization of our senior leadership. It is I revere 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.080 the Department of Justice and the FBI. They're incredibly so 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.920 I will tell you on the right, there are a 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.320 bunch of people who say let's abolish the FBI. Now, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.160 I don't think that's a good idea. The FBI does 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.959 a lot of really important things. They fight child kidnappers, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.920 they fight drug dealers, they fight human traffickers, that they 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:11.200 fight mobsters. I am very grateful for the law enforcement 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:15.320 mission of the FBI. What I think we need to 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.640 do is clean house at the FBI and get rid 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.840 of the hardcore partisan Democrats who burrowed into the senior 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.359 positions at the FBI and who've corrupted the FBI. And 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.439 my biggest concern with Chris Ray is he's unwilling to 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.720 do that. He's unwilling to take that on and and 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:39.360 and it is he ought to engage in radical transparency. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.600 And I'll point to two examples. Chris Ray out to follow. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:48.280 Number one, Elon Muskwini Twitter, where he publicly made he 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:54.639 exposed the internal emails of the corruption at Twitter that 0:18:54.920 --> 0:19:06.560 broke the big tech oligopoly on political discussion. Secondly, in 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.520 second you look at the job John Radcliffe did at 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.160 the DNI as the Director of National Intelligence. So John 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.800 Radcliffe was appointed by Donald Trump. It was just a 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.359 temporary interim appointment. I think he was there like six weeks. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.399 It wasn't very long. But John is a text and 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.240 he's a friend. Did an incredible job because he opened 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.960 up and made public many of the abuses of the 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:35.800 DNI and the intelligence community how they'd been politicized, and 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:40.320 in six weeks he made a massive impact. My advice 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:44.479 to Chris Ray follow the example of Elon Musk and 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:50.040 followed the example of John Radcliffe. Prioritize the long term 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:55.959 integrity of the FBI over your short term personal loyalty 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.760 to the hardcore Democrat partisans and the senior rear positions 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.480 to the FBI. If you want to save the institution, 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:11.600 act boldly to save and strengthen and preserve the FBI. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.000 You know, intentioning that you mentioned that because one of 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.639 the questions that Ray was asked by Brett Bear was 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:21.879 about social media companies censoring things when it came to 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.119 the FBI having basically conversations them, conversations with them on 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:30.840 the regular, sometimes daily in the run up to the election. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.800 I want to play that for you next. But before 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:33.840 we get to that, I want to tell you about 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.840 Patriot Mobile. 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I 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.760 want to play this for everybody, and this is Chris 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.360 Ray being asked about the social media companies and how 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.439 much pressure where they putting on these social media companies 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.760 that silence and sens their stories listened to this. Let's 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.159 start with the laptop. The FBI has had access to 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.560 this laptop for more than three years. Why is this 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:14.159 investigation on the Hunter Biden laptop taking so long? Well, 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.400 the investigation is being led, as you may know, by 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.119 a US attorney appointed in the last administration out of Delaware, 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.760 and the FBI is actively supporting and working with that 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.160 US attorney on that investigation. But the whistleblowers are telling 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.200 these lawmakers that there was an internal effort to shut 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.040 down the investigation from the beginning. Have you found that. 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.560 I have not found anything like that. All right, So 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.359 let's talk about the FBI and what you told Big 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.720 Tech or some agents did about the authenticity and providence 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.600 of Hunter Biden's laptop. What about that? From an FBI perspective, 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.480 the FBI does not It is not in the business 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.280 of functioning as the truth police understood. We don't tell 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.240 social media companies to censor anything. Well, or the Twitter 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.480 fun I suggest something different. I mean, there's an FBI 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:06.960 request numerous times, Taiebee puts it out FBI San Francisco 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.880 request to ban certain accounts. Twitter personnel in this case 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.320 went on to look for reasons to suspend all four 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:18.680 accounts that the FBI wanted to ban or suspend. Is 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:22.560 it appropriate to flag social media accounts on Twitter or 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:27.560 elsewhere due to politics or government policies when it comes 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:31.800 to COVID? Is it appropriate to anyway? You're saying it 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.920 doesn't happen, but there's evidence that it had. We don't 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:39.600 tell social media companies to ban accounts, but you suggest 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.560 what we do is tell social media companies about information 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:48.720 that we have about foreign disinformation campaigns by foreign actors, 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.639 by foreign intelligence services, and those companies don't make decisions 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.119 about what, if anything, they want to do about it. 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.119 I mean, center, you hear what he's saying here, and 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.560 he saying we don't tell social media company to censor anything. That, 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.000 I'm sorry, in my opinion, is a complete lie. The emails, 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.720 the Twitter files show the complete op is that coming 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:12.000 from the FBI. Look, you're exactly right, Ben. The Twitter 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:17.600 files demonstrate that the FBI was repeatedly asking social media 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.760 companies to censor stories they didn't like, And the most 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.280 striking example is the Hunter Biden laptop. The Hunter and 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.840 Biden laptop. The story broke when the New York Post 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.200 wrote about it in October of twenty twenty, right before 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.840 the presidential election, and it was a story that was 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.320 incredibly damaging to Joe Biden because it suggested corruption at 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:43.680 the very highest level. And the FBI asked big tech, 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:48.080 please censor this story. The FBI suggested a big tech 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.800 it was Russian disinformation. Now we know that. Now know 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.760 that was garbage. That was a lie. It was not 0:24:55.280 --> 0:25:00.000 Russian disinformation. It was in fact true. The laptop is true. 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.439 It's been confirmed. It was Hunter Biden's laptop. By the way, 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:08.719 it's not me confirming it. Hunter Biden's lawyers in filings 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.720 have said it was our laptop, and we're really unhappy 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.800 that you took our client's laptop and made it public, 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.119 like they have implicitly admitted. They tried to back that 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.120 away when they realized, oh crap, we shouldn't have made 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:24.919 that admission. But it was true and incredibly relevant to 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:29.720 the election. The FBI said please block it, and social 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:35.080 media saluted said not only jump, but sir, how high? 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.960 And again Chris Ray, he thinks he's defending the FBI. 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.159 He's trying to say, Okay, my job is to defend 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:47.000 my guys. Baloney. Your job is not to do that. 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.960 The degree to which big Tech got in bed with 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:54.480 the FBI and actively censored the American people and had 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.240 an effect of essentially rigging the election, it had an 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.320 enormous consequence on the twenty twenty election that this story 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.720 was suppressed, and the FBI is directly responsible in it. 0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:10.840 I don't understand why Chris Ray doesn't feel any responsibility 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.639 for that. I just think he's his entire focus is 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.720 my job is protect my guys. Even if my guys 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.120 are crapping all over the FBI and destroying its integrity, 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.440