1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm Peanut to him in and this is the NFL 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: player Second Acts Podcast. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: My co host, mister Roman Harper, my uncle. What's up baby? 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: What's up man? I'm doing well. I got my turtle 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: neck on it. Uh, Rock, you look good. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Roger Goodell inspired me, so he inspired the look I spoke, Yeah, I. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Think you look good. Appreciate that. Killing the coke. I 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: like it? Thank you. 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Look you can't speak yet, you cannot you cannot speak. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: Speak yet? 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: Yes? 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: All right, anyways, before we introduce our guests, who's already talking, 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: I want you all of our listeners, all of our viewers, 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: wherever you pick up a podcast, whether it's Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: which we have the beautiful set behind us, thanks to them. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Uh give us a five star rating. Hit give us 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: a review. Click that follow button. Tell a friend to 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 3: tell a friend to tell a friend, because we are 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: doing big things on this NFL Second Player's podcast. 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: All right, our guest again, lengthy resume. I'm gonna just ima, 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the cliff notes verse. 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: All right, why do you have to go there, Peanut? 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: Why can't we just start talking? 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: We just can't start well, Ladies and gentlemen, we got 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: a special in to day. It's got a lengthy resume 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: bought out at Wisconsin on Wisconsin, Okay, Executive vice president 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: of Football Operations, Ladies and gentlemen, Troy Vincent. 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: That resume and it was nice and did the opposite Yeah, 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: on that. I didn't know where that was going. 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: I know you're not supposed to know, so Troy check it. 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a question about the Hall of Fame. 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts. So we have Dwight Freeney, 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Randy Gradisher, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, Steve McMichael, Jews Peppers, 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: and Patrick Willis. Who is the guy that you are 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: particularly happy for that got into this year's draft class. 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: It's the highest honor, Yeah, in our profession at this 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: level to make it through that committee. People been waiting 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: for a long time. But all of the individuals that 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: are now going to have their bus get bus bust 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: and Canton it's deserving. 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Devin is someone that was really really special. 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: So he's someone where I think everyone always had an 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: eyebrow every since he was eligible. When the classes were 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: announced year in and year out, you always raised your eyebrow. 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Why do you think, why do you think you raise 46 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: your eye. 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: Because when you were that special for that length of 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: time doing what he did, he controlled games where we 49 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: talked about Dion taking over, he controlled one third. You 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: got offense, defense, and special teams. He was that dynamic. 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: He was that special of a football player. He's the 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: one where you said, when he's on the field and 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: game planning, he had the red jersey, the quarterback, whoever, 54 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: the guy you had to double or triple team. But 55 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: when you were game planning against him that week, you 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: always had to know where he was on the field, 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: even if he took an offensive snap, because he was 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: that dynamic. He was that special. So I'm really happy 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: for all, but you're talking about someone long overdue that 60 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: just was special special, you know. 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: I love that take. 62 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: It's very interesting to me because Peanut and I have 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: have this conversation over the last year talking about Devon 64 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: because I was like, I love Devon. I thought, I 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: know he's a great player, he's Peanuts teammate, but he 66 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: was in my class draft class, and so I've always 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: followed him since he was at Miami, and I didn't 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: think they let him in just purely because sometimes it's 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: just really hard to get in. And he said I 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: talked to him last night that out of the five 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: the last previous two years, he was number six. He 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: was one of the last ones to get cut the 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: last couple of years. Not a lot of people know that, 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: and so understanding that he was more confident than any 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: of anybody else walking into this thing over the weekend, 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: just because he said what he had been through the 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: last couple of years. And so with all that being said, 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: how do you what is your opinion on the whole process, 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: because I don't think enough people know the process behind 80 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: becoming an NFL Hall of Famer. 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Different. 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And as I have learned, the more I learn 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: about what goes on, And this is not to undermine 84 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 4: I have a tremendous, tremendous amount of respect with a 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: bunch of the voters. But there are some people that 86 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: I am still I'm still not sure how they're not 87 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: in the hall. So what is this process? Is it 88 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: the newness? Is it people that are more relevant now today? 89 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: And you know I. 90 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: Played with London Fletcher. Yeah, you talk about is it numbers? 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: Is it the time period you dominated? So sometimes I 92 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 4: walk away again just thinking this is who they chose, 93 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: this is the class, honor, respect, celebrate those But I 94 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: don't know what that actual process is. And depending on 95 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: what who that person is presenting, that individual can go. 96 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: You know, I hear people are buying marketing agents and 97 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: and you know for a year long or two years 98 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: going around the country. Wait a minute, if that's what 99 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: this if we've gotten to this place, right, I think 100 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: we've we've we were watering down or eroding what that 101 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: special place should be. 102 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what, thank you? Let's let's stay in the 103 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: same vein you were. You're getting into the Hall of 104 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: College Football Hall of Fame. Yeah, how does that make 105 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: you feel? What do I how does that? What does 106 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: that do to you? Mentally? 107 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: When I say Class of twenty three. 108 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: College Football Troy Vincent College Class College Football Hall of Fame. 109 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: Grateful, Thankful. 110 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: The first thing to come to mind when I was 111 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: when it was shared with me that I would be 112 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: in the Class of twenty twenty three. I just start 113 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: thinking about coach Barry Alvarez, something I never thought about, 114 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: never played for. I won nine football games, just a 115 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: level set. I won nine football games in four years, 116 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: and like I'm gonna repeat that I was one in ten, 117 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: two and nine, one in ten, in five and six. 118 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Sound about like my record. I won six games in 119 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: college all four years. 120 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: So we were at the bottom and I was just 121 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: I was just holding on. You don't have a lot 122 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: to play for when you're not scoring points and you're 123 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: getting beat by fifty points and forty points, so you 124 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: just trying to keep it together, go to class, and 125 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: just show up so to be to be considered. I'm 126 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: just thankful because. 127 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: It wasn't me. 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: It was a lot of There was a lot of individuals. 129 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: Paul Jett, who I have not talked to since I 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: left college. He was my position coach. But I just 131 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: think about coach Alvarez and what he instilled in myself 132 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: and the things that he taught me about being a 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: good teammate and how to be a good pro. 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: So with your title in your role, how would you 135 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: assess the play past season, every vault play on the field. 136 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: So when I think about when I I watched the 137 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 4: game from a different point of view. Today, I'm not 138 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: watching the game. I'm watching things that take place in 139 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: the game. 140 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: So you're not watching like a player like when we 141 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: watched the when we watch game film or just the 142 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: play I'm looking at splits. 143 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the motions. You don't you don't do that. 144 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: Now, those days are long, those days they have been 145 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: going almost a decade. Now, I'm looking at play clock, 146 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: game clock officials in the right place, the operation. I'm 147 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: looking at the whole Yeah, what's going on? TV breaks, 148 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: you know I'm looking at is going. 149 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: To be a standpoint? 150 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, really the efficiency and the administration of the game. 151 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: And then while watching there are things that I'm looking 152 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: for that is a priority of the membership and the 153 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: competition committee. Example, hip drop tackle, split flow block, the 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: enseless player, hits, right use of helmet, hits. I'm charting 155 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 4: those things to see where they show up, illegal blocks, 156 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: thinking of things that we still need to clean up 157 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: and continue to educate one the player, the coach, and 158 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: the general fan base. 159 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: So this year they've had the most sacks I think recorded. 160 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: I think you stated like that. So with that being said, 161 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: where do you think the game is going? 162 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: So this is and I've said this multiple times for 163 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: probably the last eight years, there's one position that has 164 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: not evolved in our game. 165 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: Lineman. 166 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: The lineman, the offensive lineman have not evolved the way 167 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: the game has evolved. 168 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Rule home? 169 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: If you look at if anybody just looked at the 170 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: Pro Bowlers, I'm just using them as an example. Those 171 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: guys look like forwards basketball forwards. When you look at 172 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: the Watts and you look at the defensive ends, I'm 173 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: just using him as an example. They're they're just they're 174 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: just tremendous athletes physically playing against guys that can't that 175 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: that just hasn't evolved. These guys are they sprinting? I 176 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: mean they're coming off there, They're coming off of this 177 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: ball two seconds. The ball has to be gone in 178 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: the gun and when you watch. So that's why you 179 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: say there's two areas. That offensive holding is one that 180 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: we say what areas could there's an offense? There's an 181 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: offensive hold on every snap in the National Football League. 182 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: So I just I say that that part of the 183 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: game has to evolve better coaching and it may be 184 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: time to start looking for a different composite of an 185 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: athlete to block that individual that's on on the edge. 186 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you just think about the guys that were 187 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 4: up for the defensive end, the defensive MVP them demands rushers. 188 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: It's real. 189 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's so cool because that's something I 190 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,119 Speaker 3: never thought about it. And then coming from a defensive perspective, 191 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: you you see less and less heavy blitzing teams competing 192 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 3: for championships. They have front four rushers and just let 193 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: them boys go home when they can get after you 194 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: with four. 195 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: Then if you put a three year or two technique 196 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: in there that can actually rush the passer, you got problems. 197 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: And you see it every Sunday, every Monday, and every Thursday. 198 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: It is a complete mismatch. Yeah, so anyone, everyone's talking 199 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: about the tackle at KC, you know, getting off and jumping. 200 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: He leads the league in penalties, unfortunately, and he's already 201 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 3: cheating back too. 202 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: He's barely headcrossing. So it's that is the one. So 203 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: when I look at again, he's scared. 204 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: We can finally say that the dual threat quarterback has arrived. Yeah, 205 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: we don't have to call him out. He's not anomaly 206 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: any more, the dual black quarterback. If you don't have 207 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: a dual threat quarterback, you can't compete. Yes, yeah, those 208 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: defensive ends, those linebackers are too good. So the dual 209 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 4: threat quarterback has you ride. We've seen more quarterback sneaks, 210 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: more design quarterback runs than we've seen in the history 211 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: of our game. 212 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: So a couple of buddies and I we all get 213 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: together sometimes we always talk here we go, well, we 214 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: just talk about the rules and how things canet implemented. 215 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: So I know that Wimbledon. I think Golf they do 216 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: it as well. They have like a chip in the 217 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: ball to where they know if the ball, if it 218 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: hits slightly over, it can market and let you know 219 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: if it's out of bounds. 220 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: In bounds. 221 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about did he get the 222 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: first down? Did he not get the first down? Human error? 223 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: Did he stress? 224 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Did it quite make it? Different angles of the camera view? 225 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Is there a way or have you thought about the 226 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: technology is I think it's called a Hawkeye system, that 227 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: there could be some form of a chip or something 228 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: in the ball to let you know if it physically 229 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: went ten yards orf it went nine and a half. 230 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: So that currently exists today. 231 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: Next gen stats was the everyone has a chip, the 232 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: ball has a chip. We're really close to that being 233 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: implemented to measure was it a first down, the yard 234 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: the gains we've been We've had some proof of concepts 235 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 4: the last three years in preseason, the punt, the ball 236 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: going out of bounds, we wanted to make sure it 237 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: was accurate, you know, so the latency on that. The 238 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: challenge that we have with lining the game is sometimes 239 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: you got a pile right where did his body part? 240 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: You know, did his knee did his elbow hit? Because 241 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: the ball may be one place, but the ball comes 242 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: back to where the body part landed. 243 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: So we talked through it. 244 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: There is technology our team, Kimberly Fields Future Football, Andre 245 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: Perez RJP. They are looking at optical tracking and the 246 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: advancement of how can we better use technology that we 247 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: see in other sports to advance our game. Now, I 248 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: do believe the traditionists. The traditionalist loves the change, like 249 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: there's some drama, love it too. Did he get it? 250 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: Man? 251 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: He looks like he's sure despot. So there are some 252 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: of that that you want to keep. Then there's times 253 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: was like, man, that's clear and obvious. Let's keep this 254 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: thing moving. That's the first down? 255 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: Are he sure? So that is coming? 256 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: We just want to make sure that it's accurate and 257 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: we can do a proper reading efficiently. 258 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: All right, First of all, great, great question. We say 259 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: that all week because I thought it was a great idea. 260 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: I never actually thought about that, and I'm even more 261 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: shocked that you guys have already been implementing that and 262 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: they're getting just getting closer and closer to when we 263 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: want to roll this thing out. Talk about other parts 264 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: of technology in sports and what we're doing with our teams. 265 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: I want to know your opinion on it. So what 266 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: is too much technology access? And what is about the 267 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: right amount? Because some teams are going to be naturally 268 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: better out than others. But for you, like all the 269 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: tablets on the sidelines, like, what is the right amount 270 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: of technology or with the advancements that we're getting right now? 271 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: So what you hear? 272 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: I would consider myself a traditionalist. Put the work in 273 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: during the week, watch enough game tape during the week, 274 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 4: evaluate your opponent enough during the week, and allow the 275 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: game and the natural progression on Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays 276 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: to play out with AI the machine learning. There's the membership. 277 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: I say, hey, the membership has not been ready to 278 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: move forward with video on the sidelines. We do it 279 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: in preseason. Yeah, they're still going To's just the pictures. 280 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: It's just the pictures. But you'll hear the coach say, 281 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: I want to co and the player to make that 282 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: adjustment and not allow technology to give a give him 283 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: an advancement on game day because he didn't prep properly 284 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: during the week. That's real, and I have and I 285 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: think we all appreciate that. Don't allow technology to supplement 286 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: what somebody's not doing during the week. But there is 287 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: a place that we believe at least video on the sidelines, 288 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: video in the coaching booth. You know, we still got printers. 289 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: Come on, fellas, come on, we're still printing on the sidelines. 290 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: I had plenty of coaches that whether it's like they 291 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: didn't like the pad when they rolled out, they. 292 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Were so used to yeah, get there, to get out 293 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: of here, out of my face. 294 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're doing this in high school. 295 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: So even the advancement with let's think about this right now, 296 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: you only got two people with the green dot that 297 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: you can communicate to the coach the player. What if 298 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: we gave two or three other players the same rather 299 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 4: than one. The challenge with that is typically offenses advanced 300 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 4: because defenses can't get lined up. Now if the defenses 301 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: get lined up properly. 302 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: If we had three. 303 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: People getting the signal they're getting the call, communication be immaculate. 304 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: I think it would. 305 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: Actually, I think we'll see impact and scoring. I mean, 306 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: just think about the number of touchdowns that we've seen 307 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: on blown coverages just because people just can't get lined up. 308 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: So think about coach to player, official to official, the 309 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: video on the sideline. What we have to safeguard against 310 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: in this world of legalized gambling is my primary responsibility 311 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: is not introducing things to the game that may put 312 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 4: any doubt that the games are not properly ran. Fix 313 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: is the term that people use today. We don't have 314 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: that challenge because any technology is NFL technology, tablets on 315 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: the sidelines. We control that we managed to coach a player, 316 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: coached the official to official. 317 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: That's all RAN. It's not ran by a third party. 318 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 4: It's it's it's so we need to safeguard it, but 319 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: we do believe it can advance of the game. We're 320 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: looking at optical tracking for the officials for watches. Okay, 321 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: game clock bought when the ball snap, so you always 322 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: hear that, hey did the ball was the ball snapped 323 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: at the right time? So we're looking at some optical 324 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: tracking watch and shade to help, or glasses to help 325 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: the officials. 326 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Official. 327 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: Look, Troy, I know I don't have a vote, but 328 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: I'm down with just the pictures, Like, don't give them 329 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: the video. I'm with you, see but I want to 330 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: tell you but because you gotta do it's over that 331 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: don't know what it is is. 332 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: You have a pre snap shot and then you have 333 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: a post snap shot like the. 334 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: First two seconds, but you have to go over there 335 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: to your sideline and the coach is like, what are 336 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: you run? 337 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: And you got to draw the round instead of seeing 338 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: it all. 339 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: So you got to do the work and you constantly 340 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 3: you got to see it on the jumbo trunk. 341 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you hear the coach, coach Belichick, Mike t 342 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: These guys are adamant about the flow of the game 343 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: and you making real time in game adjustments. 344 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Like they will get up. 345 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 4: On that floor and just say, I'm not looking for 346 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: technology to help this coach out on whose formations on 347 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: and so forth. They need to do that on that 348 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 4: sheet of paper with that sharpie one that bench in 349 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: between this time out so you and. 350 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: It's real, you've been through it. Yeah, that's I like that. 351 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: So I see you sporting your your Man of the 352 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: Year sweater and honors they named the twenty twenty three 353 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: Men of the Year Cam Hayward. 354 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: And uh, what did you think about a speech? Did you? 355 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: First off, did you did you get a chance to 356 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: see or hear a speech? No? Okay, I didn't go 357 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: to honors. Okay, fair enough, you didn't go to honors. Well, 358 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: he really spoke about. 359 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: His foundation and his charity and he's got I'm a voter, 360 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: so I know. 361 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so cool. So how are you feeling about 362 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: him winning winning the award? 363 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: It was just you knew, you knew. I mean, it 364 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: was just a matter of time. 365 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: We won't have to say who the final three award whatever. 366 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: First off, all thirty two guys more than should be nominated. 367 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: They all have a say so all phenomenal guys. But 368 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: and what I want to ask you is why why Cam? 369 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: So I would just say one, I am fascinated and 370 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: in awe of the diversity of philanthropy that you see 371 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: with these young men, like from clean water to doing 372 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: things globally to Cam. 373 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: I played against Cam father, Yeah, iron ironhead, ironhead. 374 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: What Cam has been doing with the clothes and the suits, 375 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: and he's been doing that for long. He's been impacting 376 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: that Pitchbird community for a long time, and I just 377 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: feel like too, and Peanut, you're a previous recipient that 378 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: longevity in giving back that should count. It's not about 379 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: because I make a certain amount, I'm giving back these 380 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: millions of dollars. But it's the little things. And I 381 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 4: think Cam has done all of the little things right 382 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: on the field, off the field, with his wife and 383 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: his children. He's truly impacted that Pitchburg region. He was 384 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: more than worthy of being acknowledged as this year is 385 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: Walter Payton Man of the Year. 386 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 3: All right, So I want to talk about a little 387 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: bit of a controversial topic. 388 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: And it's not Taylor Swift. 389 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: We can maybe get into that, but it is the 390 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: playing surface, artificial surface versus real grass. What are the 391 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: data points tell you as far as health concerns knee issues? 392 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 3: I like natural grass, but I also played nine years 393 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: on turf and was fine and practiced on it like 394 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: all the time. And so what is your opinion on it? 395 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 3: Is there the consistencies with how it's done and as 396 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: sar as the artificial because I think that's another thing 397 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: is everybody's indoors turf is different. 398 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: And it's different from we get all the data injury data. 399 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: What happens on natural turf, I mean on turf, what 400 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: happens on natural grass? Very little variance, I think so too. Yeah, 401 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: the very little variance. And when you survey the guy 402 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 4: on how he feels, I think is important. Don't survey 403 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 4: me after I finished the game, because if our lost, 404 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: I have nothing good to say about this. The locker room, 405 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: the bench, hot coat. I had always preferred natural grass. 406 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: Why I had I was taught and learned that because 407 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 4: I was a pure runner, I could run the actual 408 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: natural natural natural turf or astro turf levels the playing field. 409 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 4: But true runners and true speed shows up on grass 410 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: because you now you you gotta you gotta go, you know, 411 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: you slip or something. So on, So us examining that 412 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: this hybrid model something that the commissioner has talked about, 413 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: like some synthetic, some natural what's been played in Green Bay. Yeah, 414 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: that surface is something that really Yeah, so it's a 415 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: it's a it's a blend. It's a hybrid that has 416 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: when you look at injury data from a club stamp 417 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: or stadium standpoint. One of the lower players really like 418 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: playing on it because it gives you a little bit 419 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: of Burke. And then for quite some time, I think 420 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: they've been playing a hybrid mode at least a minimum 421 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: of five maybe five or more years, okay if I'm 422 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: not mistaken, but I. 423 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: Want if they got to wear the seven studs in there, 424 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: because I know Chicago's grass. 425 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: So Chicago was the store. I mean, we were known 426 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: for having like really bad grass. And I was a 427 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: seventh stud guy because I knew, I just knew the 428 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: field was gonna be trashed, like. 429 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: Peanut was the seven studs with the five eighths or 430 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 4: seven studs with now I was the long ones, the 431 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 4: long ones. 432 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: It was a long one. The only time I had 433 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: to I wore. I was used to it. 434 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, And for us it was like our strength because 435 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: we knew somebody from They was gonna come in. They 436 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: could win the game and they would still complain about 437 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: how crappy the field was. 438 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: So think about it now, having a natural grass field 439 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: in Green Bay. You're not in the dome, just trying 440 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: to keep it like looking not just alive to play on, 441 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: but just looking presentable. Cleveland, you get these outdoor stadiums, 442 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: Kansas City. It is it's really difficult, but I do 443 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: believe now with the science and the research that has 444 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: been done, they're some models that are if you can 445 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: do it in Green Bay, Yeah, which seems as though 446 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 4: that surface is something that the players, the scientists, the 447 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 4: engineers feels is a good model. Maybe that is could 448 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 4: be something that could be implemented, you know, throughout throughout 449 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 4: the league. Now you get some some turf stadiums. You 450 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: don't hear many people complain about Atlanta or Dallas, which 451 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: I think those two from a best practice standpoint, New 452 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: Orleans you all are turning that feel over often they do, 453 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: but what they do teams that are having a lot 454 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: of events, they just have a different cadence of the 455 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: care of the surface. In Dallas you hear very if nothing, 456 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: Atlanta nothing about their playing surface. What the Joneses and 457 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: the Blanks are doing and those they're turning those feels over, 458 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: what Missus Benson is doing in New Orleans. Those are 459 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: good practices and models that we potentially could go towards. 460 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: But what's the standard of it, though, Like what's the 461 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: standard of New Orleans versus Green excuse me, New Orleans 462 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: versus Dallas versus Atlanta. Is there a guy from the 463 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: league that says, hey, this turf is good today. Oh 464 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: is there checks and balances? 465 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Oh no, no, no, no, no, there's a third party. 466 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: We have independence. Yeah, you know, so there's density, checks, 467 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: softness that is. That is we start doing that the 468 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: week of all the way up into kickoff. 469 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: So you have an independence when you played on like 470 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: real astro turf, like the old carpet like this. 471 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: I wonder what I played on the at the vet. 472 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: You know you go to the home depot. Yeah, and 473 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: you go to the back and you can roll off 474 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: with you Yeah, with thet little that's how the vet was. 475 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: I mean it's night and day, yeah, from what it 476 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: was in the past. But I would like to I 477 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: must acknowledge Dallas, New Orleans in Atlanta their practices on 478 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: that turf, and they have a lot of events there, 479 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 4: a lot of ball games, college ball games. But that 480 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: feel is ready to go. 481 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: The thing I appreciate about New Orleans I remember it 482 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 3: was because they redid the indoor practice facilities turf too, 483 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: and they redo that quite often, and it really goes 484 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: into how much sand versus the rubbers, and understanding which 485 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: ones are easier on the knees in the body. So 486 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: they did the one at the stadium different for a 487 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: faster track versus the one at the practice facility. They 488 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: wanted to be easier on the body and on the joint, 489 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: so they put more sand than it less rubber. It 490 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: just made it the density. Things that you're talking about, 491 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: like the consistencies are different. 492 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: And that's what they're looking for. H When you talk 493 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: about that, that is what the player and we were 494 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: in that same position when we play. You're just looking 495 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: for some kind of consistency. You never get what you 496 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: practice on in the week, but you wanted to get 497 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: as closest to that that feel as you possibly say. 498 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: I think that's what we're aiming to. 499 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: And we took the speed down at practice because of 500 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: the turf, Yes, but the injury prevention was at that 501 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: top of the mind. 502 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Yes. 503 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: Then on game day we want some speed, will allow 504 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: everybody to run out here and let the horses run. Yeah, 505 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: but you know this still with injury prevention in mind, 506 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: understanding that the turf is what everybody it just gets 507 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: this negative connotation and they think that Oh, it's just 508 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: because it's turf more needs to get torn up and 509 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: it's not. 510 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about very very little different. Think the game. 511 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: It's it's a violent gameplay at high rate. 512 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: I've always liked green Bay Stadium, even when I played 513 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: back in like twenty ten before they had the hybrid. 514 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: They always said We used to say, like, well, how 515 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: come Arsenay looked like this and Green Bays look like that? 516 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: So think about it. 517 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: There was a time when we came out in Miami, 518 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: the Marlins was playing and we played three days later 519 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: or the day after, so the infield was just dirt 520 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: and paint days over, which which I appreciate. That's the 521 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 4: advancement in the game THI those days are. 522 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: Oakland was like that. 523 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I only had to do that one time in Oakland, 524 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: and I did not want to make the time. Nobody 525 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: wants to get Yeah series, you's like white on white man, 526 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: look at this, Yeah look crazy. 527 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: And you please don't right rock right, No, No, not 528 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: at all, none at all. I'm grateful. 529 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm grateful the technology that y'all doing on the hybrid 530 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: turf with a little bit of the hybrid grass. 531 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know that was the thing Green Bay. 532 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: It's a little hybrid model. It's a little bit of 533 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: synthetic and natural with the right feel so because it 534 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: almost feels like all grass, but there's some synthetic in 535 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: there to keep it together. 536 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not know that Taylor Swift. 537 00:29:54,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: Yes, so another controversial thing the outsiders day all right, now, 538 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: I'll be honest. Football has always had its own lane, right, 539 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the pop cultures and the 540 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: Swifties swerved in right and collided into the lane of 541 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: the NFL. And some people think that the NFL and 542 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: the rules committees have set it up to where you 543 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: guys want Taylor Swift and Kansas City Chiefs to be here, 544 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: and you guys set it up. 545 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: What do you say about that? Troy Vincent, I'm going 546 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: to admit I didn't know who she was. It's safe 547 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: to say he's out of Swift. 548 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: Literally, I'm watching the game, They're about to kick off, 549 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: and I keep in my mind I'm looking over at 550 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: coach Fuel saying why do they keep paying it in 551 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: the box, you know, like the camera. Yeah, and then 552 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: someone said that's Taylor Swift one of the TV breaks. 553 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, who's dampings Man, she Dayton Kelsey. You know, 554 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: they so to say that we playing this and I'm 555 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: on the front end of this thing. I didn't know 556 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: who the young lady was. I literally when we came 557 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: in flying here, I asked my daughters the question, is 558 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: she like on Beyonce level? 559 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: And they like, but how did you not know? Lilis Man? 560 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: I just maybe because I'm not in that space. 561 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: But I've seen her every week now that Kansas City played, 562 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: and for me now, I'm like, man, that's good for 563 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: the game. And we got more all right balls watching 564 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: the game, watching the guys getting on go for it. 565 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but I did not know. 566 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: Literally, at the Pro Bowl, I was in the car, 567 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 4: and I was in the car with the right people 568 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: because I didn't want to sound like I wasn't up 569 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 4: on things. I was like, is she like on like 570 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: Beyonce's level? Like we talking Michael Jackson. They was like that, really, 571 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: you're really asking me this question, Like she's selling out 572 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: like in China three nights in a row. 573 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 574 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: So coming from that, yeah, so I'm like, Okay, but 575 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 4: I think it's good. You know, personally, we're just at 576 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: a place where culture entertainment, sport, it's all coming together. 577 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: I think it's great, man, especially for young folks. Yeah, 578 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: I think it's great. I look, I just I just 579 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 4: had to know. They they needed to know, Troy. I mean, 580 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: you can't make that stuff up. But I'm like, yo, 581 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: why are they? Why is this camera keep going back 582 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: in this box? 583 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: You just didn't know. 584 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 4: I just did not know. 585 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm naive. 586 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: You are completely naive. So naive, you are completely naive. 587 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: This woman is a phenomenon. So I asked a question, 588 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: is she a country singer? I didn't know she started 589 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: out as a country so I didn't I pop? 590 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. 591 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, talented, young lady, first woman, the first person to 592 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: win four Grammys for Album other Year. 593 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 2: So, which is crazy? Beyonce's got more Grammys? 594 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Yes, she's got thirty Swift Test thirteen total Grammys, four 595 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: Album of the Year Grammys. 596 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: So is it fair to say she's gonna be here 597 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: super Bowl fifty eight? It's fair to say she's gonna 598 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: be here. They says she's getting a that's that's. 599 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: Another thing that they have been talking about is the 600 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: tracking of her her playing coming back from Japan. 601 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: To make it in time, it's been such a thing. 602 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: The Embassy of Japan put a statement out because she 603 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: will be in Japan plan so the embassy, I swear they. 604 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: Study this like no, it's just it's just like it's 605 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: just on news. It's just on news. It's just on 606 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: the news. 607 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: Japan's embassy US embassy put out a statement and said 608 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: with her having this concert in Japan, she will have 609 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: more than enough time. And what benefits her is that 610 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: the game is on the West coast, so she don't 611 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: have to go all the way to the East coast. 612 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: If say that super Bowl was in like New York 613 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: or something, she gains the time and she would have 614 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: more than enough time to be here. Like, so she's 615 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: performing in Japan, hopping on the flight thirteen hours, she'll 616 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: be here at like eleven. So maybe we pick up 617 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: some additional if they know they're fine, if they're tracking her. Yeah, 618 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: maybe we pick up some additional eyeballs to watch our 619 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: greatest game. You you might pick up another one hundred 620 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: million people watching this game. Because she's got a good 621 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: two fifty to eighty people on Twitter, Instagram. 622 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: She seems very nice. Oh yeah, just watching she seems 623 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: very pleasant, good curty country girl. 624 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a whole deal. I'd love it 625 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: tell me this. 626 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: I got the question because I somebody asked me this question, 627 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: and I would love your opinion. And I know you guys, 628 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: the competition you wanted to be level and but super 629 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: Bowl cities, I really only think it should be in 630 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: like three or four places. I just think, like, I know, 631 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: we want to get it right, but Miami should be 632 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: always there. 633 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 2: I think there's are always a rotation. Yeah, I think 634 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: New Orleans needs to always be there. 635 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 3: And the only reason I'm saying these cities because I'm 636 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: thinking of the player that wins the thing next year. 637 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so right, and so after you win it, 638 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: like I want to go hang out of the club somewhere. 639 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: So some places that don't close early, like LA stuff 640 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: closes early, so by the time the game's over, you 641 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: don't have time really to celebrate. 642 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: He only talking about just from a party stamp and 643 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: I think Las Vegas. I think this has been a 644 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: very intriguing and interesting, intriguing. It's interesting week. Yeah, there's 645 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: been some crazy stuff. 646 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: It's been different. 647 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm one of your stories. If we can talk about 648 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: that offline, about some hotel stuff. I got a good 649 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: hotel story for it, and I. 650 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 3: Think Las Vegas messed up because they were doing all 651 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: this renovation to get it ready for the super Bowl 652 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: and they not done. 653 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: So now I remember, there is a process. You have 654 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: to meet certain requirements, an average temperature year certain So 655 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 4: many hotel rooms typically outside of the New Jersey to 656 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: MetLife super Bowl typically that's a dome or outside of 657 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: unless you unless you're hitting that threshold of I think 658 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 4: an average temperature of like seventy six or seventy four 659 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 4: degrees a year. 660 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: So that's why you always see them coming back to 661 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: the Miami's. 662 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, the California, the North Yes, because of that hotel capacity, 663 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 4: big city capacity within that average temperature. And we thought 664 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 4: that in Dallas even though dome. But remember we froze 665 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: a death, the froze Bowl. But this has been an interesting, 666 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 4: interesting week. 667 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's been very interesting. 668 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: I got some great stories offline that we could talk 669 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: about and you laugh because you know what they are. 670 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: But yes, very very interesting stories about our hotel. 671 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 4: So also super Bowl cities typically if there's new construction, 672 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: new stadium, correct, there's there's some consideration. Non asmis Minnesota. Yeah, 673 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 4: there's there's a if you're putting up a new stadium, 674 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 4: you want to show love, you want to show some love. Yes, 675 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 4: And I think that's a consideration of the membership for 676 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 4: their partners when they put up these monster stadiums. 677 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: Troy, that's the man. We ain't gunning in us for you. 678 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: I heard you was nervous. Why was you nervous? This 679 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 2: is this is us. I wasn't nervous. 680 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 4: I love y'all. 681 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: I am so proud of you all. 682 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: I didn't know how it was gonna work when that 683 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 4: when the idea came and you couldn't have picked two 684 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 4: better men. 685 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: Man, Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Thank you, man received it. 686 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: And you came on with us early in this whole 687 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: this whole situationboy. 688 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: Not work. And then well the people are they're not 689 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: demanding brothers, they're not you know, and y'all did it. 690 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 4: Y'all killing it, and the folks love you. And I 691 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 4: just appreciate you all representing the Legends community of players 692 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: in your authentic way. 693 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 2: It means a lot. So keep up the great work. Thanks, 694 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: appreciate that, man, you received that. I receive that. 695 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: Peanut has a problem with sometimes receiving really good information 696 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: or compliments, he doesn't always accept them. 697 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: So please receive that. He didn't know I didn't go 698 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: to Syracuse now, but please receive that. Dwayne Joseph. That's 699 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: that's what I was taking because I just saw him. 700 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: Your homeboy, My bad look man. 701 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: We will get about here, man, Troy, thanks man for 702 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: always blessing us with your time and your your words 703 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: and your opinions. We learned a lot today, especially about 704 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 3: the game. I hope more and more of our people 705 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: tune into that. All of our fans, viewers, and listeners, 706 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: thank you for always tune in wherever you pick up 707 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 3: your podcast with this Apple podcast iHeartRadio. Give us a 708 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: five star rating, click follow, give us a review, Tell 709 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 3: a friend to tell a friend, to tell a friend, 710 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: tell a friend, friend Fred, Peanut, get us out of here. 711 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: Man, Hey, I'm Peanut. That's my god, Roan, that's Troy. 712 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 2: We out page