1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bridget and this is any and you're 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: listening to stuff mom never told you. And you might 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: recall earlier this summer when the Supreme Court Justice Kennedy 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: announced his retirement. Everybody, myself included, was losing their collective minds. 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: And here's why. President Trump gets to choose his replacement, 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: and he picked Rhett Kavanaugh, a conservative judge for the 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: United States Court of Appeals for d C Circuit, often 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: thought of is the second most powerful court in the country. 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: One of the reasons people were freaking out is that 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: getting to pick a Supreme Court justice is a pretty 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: big deal. So this week, Kavanaugh is undergoing a pretty 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: lengthy series of hearings so folks can get a sense 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: of just who this guy is and where he stands 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: on the issues. Yeah, you can try to Yes, you 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: can try to um. His confirmation hearing started on Tuesday, 16 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: and here in the States and probably outside of the 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: States you might have seen some of it because it 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: got a little wild. It was a little rowdy. Um 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: fun fact. I was supposed to go and then at 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: the last minute I was like, can I really? I mean, 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I am I am down for getting arrested for the cause, 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: but I was like, I've got some stuff in the works, 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: so I don't want to get arrested now, y'all say 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: that for later. UM seventy women, including Women's March leader 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Linda Sarsore an actress Piper Paraboo, Yes that Piper Pearaboo 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: from Coyote Ugly, were arrested on the opening day of 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: his hearing. UM and activists even dressed up like handmaids 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: and sort of live in the hall to sort of 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: make a very arresting visual statement of how they feel 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: about capitall. Yeah, and Senator took grass Lee and Iowa 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Republican who's the Judiciary Committees chairman, pushed back on those calls, 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and outgoing Senator or A Hatch, the Utah Republican, at 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: one point called for the removal of a quote loudmouth protester. Yeah. 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: So it was definitely a rowdy scene. And I think 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why people are so vocal about 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: about their opposition to Kavanaugh is that this is really important, 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: you know. I think it was Kamala Harris who made 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: the point that this person's positions could very well impact 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: the air you and your kids breathe. You know the 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: schools you and your kids go to, what medical procedures 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: you can and can't get, So it's a big deal. 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: And the fact that we don't really know a ton 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: about him, and again that's that's tends to be in 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: line with a lot of judges, Like if you remember 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the Gorsix cheerings, he was not someone who was super 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: forthcoming and the process of having to sort of, you know, 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: finesse information out of these people is is not unusual. 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: But you know, that's why that's one of the reasons 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: why this is so frustrating, because the American people deserve 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: to know this. We deserve to know where this person 51 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: stands on X Y Z issue, you how they feel 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: about these rulings, so we can get a sense of 53 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: how they're going to, you know, how they're going to 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: be in this position. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: without information without knowing where people stands. It's weird because 56 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: politics has become that but it shouldn't be that. But 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: it fills me with an underlying sense of dread that 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: is no fun. I don't blame you, okay, So let's 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: back up, just who is this guy? Who is Brett 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh NPR describes him as quote a connected Washington insider 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: with roots and politics in the George W. Bush White House. 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Another thing to note is that he's only fifty three, 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: so that means if he's confirmed, he's going to be 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court for a long time. UM. Side note, 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: RBG girl, if you're listening to this, please continue your 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: workout routine, keep eating healthy. We're all rooting for you, 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Yes we are. She's so tough. Another notable fact about 68 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: him is that he believe is that a sitting president 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: should be protected from litigation and criminal investigations because they 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: are quote time consuming and distracting, and that a president 71 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: who is concerned about an ongoing criminal investigation is almost 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: inevitably going to do a worse job as president. Yeah. Um, 73 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: that's concerning to me. During Wednesday's hearing, he backed off 74 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: a little bit from this, from this position that he 75 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: had earlier publicly taken, but the fact that Trump is 76 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: still under investigation did still play a pretty big role 77 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: in his hearing. Um. And I gotta say, Kamala Harris, 78 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: of all the different ways that senators tried to kind 79 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: of get Kavanaugh to just answer God in question, she 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: really had him on the ropes, and the topic that 81 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: really got him there was the Trump investigation. Here was 82 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: one sort of rather explosive part of the hearing. What 83 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: happened really late Wednesday night about Robert Mueller or his 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: investigation with anyone at that firm? Yes or no? Well, 85 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: is there a person you're talking I'm asking you a 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: very direct question, yes or no. I need to know that. 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I know everyone who works with that 88 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: law firm. I don't think you need to. I think 89 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: you need to know who you talked with so honestly 90 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: that that I find that Cook to be so dizzy 91 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: ng because one, it just shows how the ranks that 92 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: he will go to not answer this question too. I mean, 93 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: it's a yes or no question. I think that Harris 94 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: is so smart for framing her questions this way, but he, 95 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, he clearly doesn't want to answer it. Later 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: on an aid for Harris implied that they have information 97 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: or that they they suspect that there is some reason 98 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: to believe he has had connection with someone from Trump's 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: law firm about these investigations. But I guess, you know, 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: TV t v D. I guess we'll find out. But 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: that clip really does is illustrate to me that he 102 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: is not someone who we'll just answer a question out right, 103 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: like he will use anything like he's very slippery, he's 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: not forthcoming. Um, that was the first time he to 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: my knowledge that he sort of got ruffled. Oh yeah, 106 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: it definitely was. It definitely was. Like I stayed up 107 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: to watch the hearing overnight and so this happened pretty 108 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: late at night, and the in the this morning, when 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: I was looking at the paper, all of the headlines 110 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: were Harris gets him on the ropes for the first time. 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: He was flustered like like this, like for he was 112 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: visibly shaken when she asked him about this. I'm no expert, 113 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: but it seems like he is making a point to 114 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: not answer this question. Um. Senator Mike Lee from Utah 115 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: basically steps in and it's like stop, stop, he's already 116 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: dead and says and says, Harris, you know, he can't 117 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: be expected to remember everything, to know every person who 118 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: was on this list of people who ever worked at 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: that law firm. Which again, it's it's almost like that 120 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: that is not the spirit of the question, Like it's 121 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: I think it's very clear what the spirit of the 122 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: question is if you asked me, have you ever had 123 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: a conversation about X y Z with somebody who worked 124 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: at x y Z? I would understand that question. She's 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: not asking him to like list the name of every 126 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: person who has ever worked at that law firm. It's 127 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: almost sort of um, it's almost like this red herring 128 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: where she's asking what I think is a pretty clear question, 129 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: and he's responding, Oh, I don't know the entire rundown 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: of this law firm by name, and that's not really 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: what she's asking. I think that someone who is smart 132 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: enough to become a judge knows that. I would hope so. Um. 133 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: That sounds like something children do to avoid answering directly 134 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: a question when they're in trouble with their parents. Do 135 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: you have any connections with the Russian law firm? Bridget Listen, 136 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I can't be said to know the names of every 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: person who has some connection to a Russian law firm, 138 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: you know. I mean I talked to people all day long. 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: I just took a cab this morning. Maybe he had 140 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: a connection. I don't know. I can't. I can't be 141 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: in charge of who who does what with their time 142 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: message received. If I just said no, of course not. 143 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean again, she and she asked it yes or 144 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: no question is a very clear yes or no questions. 145 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: So I think it's very interesting that he had that 146 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: response and was so visually freaked out by it. So 147 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: one of the questions that that I had kind of 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: going into this episode is do people actually like Kavanaugh? 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Um When they first announced that he was going to 150 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: be the nominee, I did see this really annoying meme 151 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: popping out that was like, Oh, he drives carpool with 152 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: his kid gets such a nice guy. It's just a 153 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: really good guy, And I thought, no one is accusing 154 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: it of not being a good father or like not 155 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: being a super sweetheart, you know. I mean, that's fun. 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: But I also think that it's focusing on that almost 157 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: sort of it seem like we're out of line for 158 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: wanting to know his actual rulings and opinions and all 159 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: of that. Like I think it was Ben Sass opened 160 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: his remarks um the senator from Nebraska talking about how, oh, 161 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: a lot of liberals would have us believe you're this terrible, 162 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: terrible guy. I think they're crazy because you're so nice 163 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: and all of your colleagues and all of your law 164 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: school classmates all talked about what a nice guy you 165 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: were and how you know, how dedicated you were, And 166 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: I thought, come on, like, people raising objections to his 167 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: record or the lack of clarity and transparency around his record, 168 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: is not accusing him of not being a nice guy 169 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: or a dedicated law student or whatever. And even and 170 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: even raising that, it's so disingenuous to me, And it's 171 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: almost insulting to the American people that because people are 172 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: understandably concerned that indequates like, oh, we're being we're overreacting 173 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: because we are, you know, daring to ask questions of 174 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: this super sweet guy who drives car pool questions like 175 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: how would you rule on Row versus Wade. Yeah, it's 176 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: a job interview, and we sure you can be a 177 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: nice guy, but are you the person for the job? 178 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Like that's the whole thing. Can you imagine showing up 179 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: to a job interview like at a bank and then 180 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: being like, so, what's your background in banking? And you're 181 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: being like, WHOA I could have carpool? Okay, everyone agrees 182 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: on a nice person. Everyone agrees on a nice person. Yeah, 183 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm a car pool person. And you know what that 184 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: is right. It's someone who carpools. An ABC News Washington 185 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: Post poll found the public is evenly divided on Kavanaugh's nomination. 186 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: He has among the lowest support levels for a high 187 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Court nominee in polling going back to nine, seven, six, 188 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: and ten. Americans also say that Kavana should publicly state 189 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: his position on abortion before being confirmed. Again, A completely 190 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: reasonable position for the American people to take. Yeah, And 191 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I would hope that no matter what side of the 192 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: aisle you fall on, you would agree with that. We 193 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: just want to know positions. That's something you should know 194 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: for something that's important. That's right. And only two nominees 195 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: have had weaker public support than Cavita Harriet Myers, who 196 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: withdrew her nomination in two thousand five, and Robert Bourke, 197 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: who was rejected by the Senate. So throughout all of 198 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: this um there's been some kind of not helpful practices. 199 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: The White House has withheld more than one hundred thousand 200 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: pages based on claims of executive privilege, and Democrats also 201 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: complained that Republicans dumped forty five thousand documents on the 202 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: committee the night before the hearing, which was Labor Day. 203 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: If I remember correctly. Yes, giving senators bill time to 204 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: review them. Yeah, that's here, no time at all, exactly. 205 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: And here's my thing. It just goes back to this 206 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: idea of transparency. He can hold whatever positions he wants 207 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: to hold. He can, you know, be a judge, whatever 208 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: kind of way he wants to be a judge. We 209 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: just deserve to know. And I think that the fact 210 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: that they're making it this difficult for just to get 211 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: information to me speaks volumes. I mean, people deserve to know, 212 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,239 Speaker 1: you know, who was super not here for those shenanigans. 213 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: I think I do. Kamala Yaris making a really fiery speech. 214 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: This is a hearing about who will sit on the 215 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: highest court of our land. This is a hearing that 216 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: is about who will sit in a house that symbolizes 217 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: our system of justice in this country. And some of 218 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: the most important principles behind the integrity of our system 219 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: of justice is that we have due process and we 220 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: have transparent and true to form. When Kavanaugh was given 221 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: the chance to speak, he really didn't say a ton. 222 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: He has this way of really answering questions without really 223 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: answering the question he he I feel like I left 224 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: that hearing without better understanding of who he was, like 225 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: who I thought he was when I walked into that hearing, 226 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: I left with no clear challenges to that that understanding 227 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: that I had. The quote that I remember him saying 228 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: the most was I don't decide cases based on personal 229 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: or policy preferences. I am not a pro plaintiff or 230 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: pro defendant judge. I am not a pro prosecution or 231 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: pro defense judge. I am a pro law judge, which me, 232 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like that, Like that doesn't what does 233 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: that mean? That doesn't mean anything to me. Just saying oh, 234 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: I just follow the law it is it doesn't help me. 235 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's almost insulting because it pretends 236 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: that he not have this background and conservative politics that 237 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: he does not. You know, he can't go He can't, 238 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: as much as he probably would have liked to, And 239 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: he tried to walk these comments back during Wednesday's hearing. 240 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: He can't go back and erase the fact that he 241 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: said that he thought a sitting president should not could 242 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: not be investigated for criminal wrongdoing while he's the president. 243 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: He can't go back and erase that. And so to 244 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: act like that never happened is you just can't. You 245 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: just can't do it, you know, And I think people 246 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: have a right to to know. And I guess that's 247 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: that's what makes me so angry about these hearings is 248 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: how the Republicans, they seem very exasperated, like, how dare 249 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: you ask these questions? When? But why are we asking 250 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: that this isn't a big deal? Sure, um, And if 251 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the shoe were on the other foot, and it has been, 252 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: they would be complaining as well. We have some more, 253 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: some more stuff to talk about here, um, but first 254 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna pause for a quick break or word from 255 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and we're back, Thank you sponsor. So again, 256 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues with Kavanaugh is that he's 257 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: not being clear on where he stands on really important issues, 258 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: issues like Row versus Wade. So the public has pretty 259 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: much left to kind of piece together what like his positions, 260 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: how he might rule, what he thinks all of that 261 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: based on opinions that he's that he's put out there 262 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and bits and pieces of speeches that he's done, which 263 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: really is not a I don't think it's a good 264 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: way of having to construct who this person is who 265 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: will have such a big hands in our democracy. Sure, 266 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: and Here's what Vox has to say. Much of the 267 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: debate around Kavanaugh's confirmation has centered on what the judge 268 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: really believes when it comes to row. Has coming so 269 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: far have been vague and are likely to remain so. 270 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: But Feinstein said in our opening statement at Tuesday's hearing, 271 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: the judges record indicates he would likely be willing to 272 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: overturn the landmark ninety three decision. Doing so wouldn't just 273 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: strike an enormous blow to reproductive rights in America, she 274 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: pointed out, because of rose role in American law, overturning 275 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: the decision could also threaten marriage equality and other freedoms. 276 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh reportedly told Senator Susan Collins last month he considered 277 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: Roe versus Way to be settled law, But as fine 278 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Stein pointed out, that doesn't mean much since the Supreme 279 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Court has the power to unsettle the law. Yeah, and 280 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: so sim saying, oh well Roe, you Wade, that's settled 281 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: law again? You know who was not okay to just 282 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: accept that answer? Can you guess? I think I can? 283 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, here's what she had to say. Five justices, 284 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: if in agreement, can overturn any precedent, would you agree 285 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: there's a reason why the Supreme Court doesn't do that, 286 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: But but do you agree that it can do that? Well, 287 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: it is overruled precedent at various times in our history, 288 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the most prominent example being Brown versus Board of Education, 289 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the Eerie case which overruled Swift versus Tyson. We both 290 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: agree the court has done it and can do it. 291 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, he can say, oh, this is settled law 292 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: as a way to make us not cannot concerned and 293 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: not ask follow up questions. But Harris is right, colin 294 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade, settled law doesn't mean anything. A Supreme Court, 295 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: as she points out, as he very well knows, has 296 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the power to change settled law. And you know, I 297 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: think that it's it's interesting that she has to resort 298 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: to asking these questions in such a roundabout way because 299 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: he won't just splot out say how he feels about 300 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: these things. But you know, I want to be clear, 301 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: he's making it seem as if a Supreme Court justice 302 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: does not have the power to overturn settled law if 303 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, on the books, as Harris has has 304 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: sort of gotten him to agree, that doesn't really mean 305 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: a lot. That doesn't really mean anything. Another reason that 306 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: um people are a little, a little suspicious or something 307 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: that keeps coming up in this conversation of where Kavanaugh 308 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: stands on Roe v. Wade and abortion is his ruling 309 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: in Garza versus Hargin. In his descent last year, in 310 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: the d C Circuit Court case Garza Vargin, Kevinaugh opposed 311 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: a ruling allowing an unauthorized immigrant teenager to receive an 312 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: abortion while in federal care. He argued that since quote 313 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: the minor is alone and without family, our friends, that 314 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: she should be transferred to an appropriate sponsor before getting 315 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: the procedure. And requiring the teenager to seek such a sponsor, 316 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Kevinall wrote, the government quote is merely seeking to place 317 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: the minor in a better place when deciding whether to 318 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: have an abortion. So you might be thinking, oh, that 319 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: doesn't sound so bad, but here's what he also wrote 320 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: it as descent, he wrote that quote, the government has 321 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: permissible interest in favoring fetal life, protecting the best interests 322 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: of a minor, and refraining from facilitating abortion, and that 323 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: the decision to extend that right to an undocumented immigrant 324 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: was quote as novel as it was wrong. So I 325 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: mean you tell me right, Like, this is someone who says, 326 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to rule using my personal or political 327 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, preferences or policy blah blah blah. I rule, 328 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: I rule a long law. But I do think that 329 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: the government has a responsibility to prevent people from getting 330 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: abortions if they want them. So I mean, you tell 331 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: me again, I'm no, I'm no expert. But he said 332 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: very clearly during this hearing that he was not someone 333 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: who was going to allow his you know, personal or 334 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: political opinions to impact the way that he rules on 335 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: things that dissent seems to do just that. Like there's 336 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't kind of have it both ways 337 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: in my book, Well, if you can, I certainly have 338 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: figured it out. None of does know how to have 339 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: it both ways. That's what I think exactly. Um, And 340 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: here's what Diane Feinstein had to say this argument. Findstein 341 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: said at the hearing, quote, rewrite Supreme Court precedent, if adopted, 342 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: we believe, would require courts to determine whether a young 343 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: woman had a sufficient support network when making her decision, 344 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: even in cases where she has gone to court. So again, 345 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: it might not seem you know, saying like oh, we 346 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: just want that, we just want what's best for the minor. 347 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: That sounds all well and good, but that could set 348 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: a really tough precedent where even though the court said, 349 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: like what happened in this case, yes, you were fine 350 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: to get your abortion. If that's what you want to do, 351 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: go do it, that is at a precedent where the 352 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: court could say, oh, well, she doesn't have friends around 353 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: her family around her No, you know. And and I 354 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: think that Findstein is correct to to point that out. 355 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: And on Wednesdays hearing, Harris once again trying to ask 356 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: Kavina some pointed questions about the law as it regards 357 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: to women's bodies, and the exchange went viral. Can you 358 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: think of any laws that give government the power to 359 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: make decisions about the male body? Um, I'm happy that 360 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: answer more specific question male versus female, I'm not. I'm 361 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: not thinking of any right now. Center. So really, I mean, 362 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: I've I've watched both days of the hearings. Now I 363 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: don't feel like we found out that much about this 364 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: man's record, that much about how what kind of judge 365 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: he would be. I feel like, again, the way and 366 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: I went into the hearing feeling is If anything, I 367 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: feel like I've got I feel like he's squirrelier. I'm like, oh, 368 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: he's squirrelier and easilier than I thought. If anything, I 369 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: feel less at ease than I did when I started 370 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: watching the hearing. Another kind of clue that might give 371 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: us some idea about this guy's positions is a twenty 372 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: seventeen speech that he made at the American Enterprise Institute, 373 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: and it offered a little bit more insight into how 374 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: he might feel about things like, Oh, I don't know abortion. 375 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh commended the opinions of former Chief Justice William Rendquist 376 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: in this speech, including notably Rendquists Descent, and Roe v. Wade. 377 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Rendquist was the minority in a seven to decision in 378 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy three case which guaranteed women's constitutionally protected 379 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: right to an abortion. He wrote it as assenting opinion 380 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: that the prevalence of abortion regulations made it tough for 381 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: him to argue that it should become a quote enumerated right, 382 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: and concluded that, barring certain restrictions, states should legislate the matter. 383 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: In Kavanaugh speech, he says it is fair to say 384 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: that Justice ryan Quist was not successful in convincing a 385 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: majority of justices in the context of abortion, either in 386 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Row itself or in a later cases such as Casey, 387 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: but he as successful in stimming the general tide a 388 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: freewheeling judicial creation of unenumerated rights that were not rooted 389 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: in the nation's history and tradition. And again, I hear 390 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: that speech, and I think it basically sounds like he's 391 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: saying he really put an end to this idea that 392 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: people this can have any old rights whenever they want. No. No, 393 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: the rights that we need to protect are the ones 394 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: that are rooted in tradition, tradition. Yes, Yeah, And I again, 395 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: I think it's patently absurd that we're left to sort 396 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: of piece together this guy's opinions on on law. It 397 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: threw a handful of speeches, but he's kind of left 398 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: us no choice. And I can I can't help but 399 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: read that speech and think this is not somebody who 400 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: was going to be invested in protecting, you know, my 401 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: reproductive justice and my reproductive rights. Yeah, we shouldn't be 402 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: having to like puzzle piece together from like little scraps 403 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: we can find from its history. It doesn't make sense, Honestly, 404 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: it's not how things um of functioning functioning Supreme Court 405 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: should should go about things. But you know, it's where 406 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: we are, and we do have some more some more 407 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: issues that are a little concerning. But first we're gonna 408 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: take one more quick break for word from our sponsor 409 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: editor back, thank you sponsor. So a few more issues 410 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: that people are raising alarm bells on um while and 411 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: this his record on guns, according to a piece by 412 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: Hannah Sharier, the Second Amendment litigation director at the Gifford's 413 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Opinion, for example, 414 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh dissented from the decision of two Republican appointed judges 415 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: arguing that Washington's gun magistration law and a ban on 416 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: assault weapons violates the Second Amendment. Kavanas a logical claim, 417 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: was at the public safety should play no role in 418 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: determining the constitutionality of public safety laws. Um again, Yeah, 419 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: it's just it. I don't agree with the head safety 420 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: should play no role in public safety laws. Yeah, I mean, 421 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: it's it's concerning, and it's especially concerning when you consider 422 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: the fact that during the opening day of the hearing, 423 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Capital straight up refused to shake the hand of a 424 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: father who lost his daughter during the park Land shooting, 425 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: and that moment really did go viral. Of this father. 426 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: He this father says he went up to him kind 427 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: of father to father. And bear in mind, this is 428 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: the one who for the first you know, week of 429 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: the news cycle when he was first announced as the nominee, 430 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: we spent forever hearing about oh, he's such a good dad. 431 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: Dedicated dad, drives carpool, don't you know, as the the 432 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: coach on the kids team. Like him being a dedicated 433 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: father was a big part of of the narrative about 434 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: you know who this guy was. And yet when someone 435 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: who lost his child, you know, I tried to connect 436 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: with him, he says, dad to dad. He was really rebuffed, 437 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: and I part of me kind of gets it. You're 438 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: out of hearing. You've been being talked at for hours. 439 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: That is part of the job. Cecil Richards didn't have 440 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: a problem doing it, you know when she was in 441 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: hearing whatever um. But part of me gets it that 442 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: you know, someone comes up to you quickly and you're like, 443 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: what's happening. But I also think once you hear someone 444 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: say if you want to be a Supreme Court judge 445 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: and wants to hear someone say Hello, shake my hand. 446 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: My my daughter was killed in Parkland. Like to not 447 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: respond like his He has this deer in headlights response 448 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: that I just feel like whether or not he was 449 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: just in a weird moment of what's happening, I'm being 450 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: taken off guard or it was what I believe it 451 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: to be, and this father believes it to be an 452 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: intentional choice to not engage with him. Um, it doesn't 453 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: look good. Yeah, here's what the father had to say. 454 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: It would have been a way for one dad to 455 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: look another dad in the eye and maybe he would 456 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: have asked me more questions about why I'm there. But instead, 457 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: as soon as I said murdered in Parkland, he just 458 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: did an immediate turn and went the other way. Yeah, 459 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: it really just doesn't look good. You know, this is 460 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: someone who lost their their child, and if Kavanaugh was 461 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: to become a justice, he would be ruling on cases 462 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: that very well, could you know, have an impact on 463 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: that kind of thing going forward? And I think, yeah, 464 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: it just it just doesn't it. Really. When I saw 465 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: this clip, it like made me feel kind of almost 466 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: like queasy when I saw this, because it just doesn't 467 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: look good and the optics of you know, this father 468 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: standing there and Kavanaugh just turning away from him like 469 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: glassy eyed. It just well, it wasn't good. No, and um. 470 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: Something else people are concerned about is the Affordable Care Act, 471 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: because his nomination threatens that as well. The Trump administration 472 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: has already made a botched attempt to repeal the law. 473 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: They joined a lawsuit by twenty states that would if successful, 474 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: and the requirement that health insurers cover those with pre 475 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: existing conditions. The case is due to be heard in 476 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: the District Court in Texas and could wind up before 477 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and Kavanaugh if he is confirmed soon. 478 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: This means people with a very long list of conditions, 479 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: things like acne, asthma, could have their healthcare threatened. So 480 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: for some people this is literally life or death. Yeah, 481 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: it is life for death. I I try not to 482 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: be someone like when I went into this episode, I 483 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be alarmist. I want 484 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: to put together what is out there, but I want 485 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: to be clear. You know, for folks, folks like my 486 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: dad who have chronic health conditions, you know, the Affordable 487 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Care Acts saved my dad's life. And I think that 488 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: people who like people deserve to have their dad's around, 489 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: if their dads can be around. You know, people deserve 490 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: to have healthcare. People desert to not And I'm not 491 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: even saying the Affordable Care Act is perfect, because the 492 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Lord knows. It's not that. I think that we need 493 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: to understand what's at steak. And so if you see 494 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: that hashtag popping off hashtag what's at stake, I think 495 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: it's because I know that people, myself included, are fatigued. 496 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I know that we have stuff being thrown at us day. 497 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: It feels like we have something thrown on us day 498 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: in and day out. You know, on Wednesday, the day 499 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: of this hearing, that was also the day that this 500 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: sort of bombshell anonymous New York Times article came out, 501 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: supposedly written by somebody high up of the administration about 502 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: how out of a job our president is doing. This 503 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: is coming from out from inside of his administration. We are, 504 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's under investigation, pussy grabbing. I mean it's 505 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: it is a constant, constant, constant show of stuff being 506 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: thrown at us, day in and day out. So I 507 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Part of me thinks that 508 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: we have just sort of accepted that this is normal. 509 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: But it's not normal our president is under investigation. Should 510 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: he really get a Supreme Court pick with that being 511 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: the case? Like, is that okay? And I think it's 512 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: not normal? It's I just think that we need to 513 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: remind ourselves that, yes, we're hearing a lot of really 514 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: absurd stuff day in and day out, but we can 515 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: say no, we can make the choice to say I'm 516 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: not okay with this. And so if you're listening to 517 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: this right now and you're thinking what can I do, 518 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: we actually have some steps you can take. So first 519 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: of all, you should be calling your senator. Um. I 520 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: live in Washington, d C. So I should don't have 521 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: a senator to call. But if you don't live in Washington, 522 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: d C. You should be calling your senator. Um. Even 523 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: if your senator is doing is is, you know, making 524 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: a lot of noise, even if you if your senator 525 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: is Kamala Harris, it's often a good idea to call them, 526 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: and you know, you know, we sometimes you call it 527 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: in the business banks and spanks, where if they're doing 528 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: a bad job, they get spanks. So you call them 529 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: and say I'm annoyed at you for not doing for 530 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: not blah blah, but if doing good job, they get thanks, 531 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: and so you call them and say keep up the 532 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: good work. And you know so no matter where you live, Um, 533 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: this is a worth balled endeavor, I would say. So, 534 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: if you want to call your senator, the number is 535 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: two O two two two four three one two one. 536 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: You will be connected to your senator. You can you know, 537 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: it will determine where you live, and it will walk 538 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: through the process. Again, I am not someone I think. 539 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: I think we both Annie, we both feel this way. 540 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: Talking on the phone is not thing. I will go 541 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: out of my way to avoid it. The links I 542 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: have taken, Oh my gosh, I want to hear more about, 543 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: like what you've done to not talk on the phone. 544 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: By the way, I read somewhere that they're actually toying 545 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: with the idea of having an option on ridesharing apps 546 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: where you can say you don't want to talk. I 547 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: saw that. I thought of you immediately. I was like, oh, 548 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: is this the is this the Annie? Annie? You call 549 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: it that? Somebody listened to the show and was like, hmmm, no, 550 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not the only person who had that idea. 551 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: But if you go, if you like Bridget and I 552 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: and you do perhaps avoid talking on the phone. Don't 553 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: like talking on the phone. You can go to blockbread 554 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: dot com and they have a really handy tool and 555 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: they provide a script of what to say which every 556 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: time I call a senator or or something of that nature. 557 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: Those scripts helped me out so much. Yeah, they definitely do. UM. 558 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: Some of y'all know. For a while I worked at 559 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood, and so if you were on Plan Parenthood's 560 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: text or SMS list, you got text messages UM from 561 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: either from B from P, p BT from PP, or 562 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: bridget from PP. Hello, those are all me. I was not. 563 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: I was not I'm not actually a robot. I was 564 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: a real person. And what we found is that people 565 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: were so so so much more likely to actually take 566 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: the steps and call their senator if you made it 567 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: really clear. So when you called that number, you heard 568 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: my voice on a recording being like, hey, thanks for calling. UM, 569 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: here's what you should say, you know, a complete rundown. 570 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: So it is annoying if you hate talking to the 571 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: phone and have phone anxiety, and and I are right 572 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: there with you, we get it. But this is so 573 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: important and we really they really do make it so easy, 574 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: so please, please, please make your voice heard and let 575 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: us know. Like, I want to know, are you making 576 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: these calls? Did you get through to your senator? Like 577 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: if someone if someone has an interesting response, I want 578 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: to know. I want to know how it went. Yes, 579 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: we would love love to know. And UM, I can 580 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: say on a personal note, I they have post it 581 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: notes everywhere. I don't know if you've ever noticed this, Bridget, 582 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: but I've post it notes everywhere. That's say, this is 583 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: not normal. I have noticed. I've never brought it up 584 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: because I wasn't sure if it was about Trump or real. 585 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: I never didn't want to. I didn't want to pry 586 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: this whole podcasting biz is not normal. It is not normal. Um. 587 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: But no, I mean it's it's true, and I do 588 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: think we need those reminders. If you feel like you 589 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: are losing it, you're not. This is not normal. None 590 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: of this is normal. Remember Annie's post it notes, this 591 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: is not normal. They are everywhere. Um. So that is 592 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: our Brett Kavanaugh episode. We are recording this like the 593 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Thursday after the second hearing, so things could change very rapidly. Yeah, 594 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: expect to follow up. Um, if anything explosive happens, we'll 595 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: definitely do a follow up episode. Um, but keep watching 596 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and keep keep calling, keep the pressure on, you know, 597 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: and we'll see how it goes when we're all on 598 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: this ride together. We all live in this country together, 599 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: so we'll see. And to the listeners outside of the 600 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: United States, UM, thank you, thank you, and free for us. 601 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: And speaking of listeners, this brings us to listener mail. 602 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: Stephanie wrote, I am into railing solo through Central Europe 603 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: and Scandinavia for four weeks this summer and then and 604 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: am having a fantastic time. I listened to your podcast 605 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: in the Olympic Park and Munich were decided on the 606 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: spur of the moment to go zip lining across the 607 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Olympic stadium. I really enjoyed traveling alone for many of 608 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: the reasons discussed in the podcast. I am happy in 609 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: my own company. I love being able to decide my 610 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: own itinerary and do things my own way. Most people 611 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: in my life know that I am very independent and 612 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: have no issue with me traveling alone. I have had 613 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: anyone tell me that I'm going to be murdered, but 614 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: a few people have tried to suddenly ask what about 615 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: your boyfriend? As if once you have a partner, you 616 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: can't travel alone. I thought what you said Annie about 617 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: travel snobbery was really interesting. I am Irish and as 618 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: Ireland is a very small country, the vast majority of 619 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: people have passports and have traveled outside of the country. 620 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: While Ireland is a beautiful place, there isn't the attitude 621 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: that Annie described there being in the US of home 622 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: not being good enough for you. Also, the bigger country 623 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: is the more expensive it is to leave it. With 624 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: cheap airlines such as Ryanair, you can get flights from 625 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: Ireland to the UK and the rest of Europe pretty cheaply. 626 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: It is completely normal for people to go to resorts 627 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: in Spain, Italy and France for their holidays. It can 628 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: even be cheaper to go on holidays abroad and to 629 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: stay at home in Ireland. I think we're travel snobbery 630 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: could come in in our context. Maybe where you choose 631 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: to go it is seen as more adventurous to go 632 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: to more far flung places, are places that are off 633 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: the beaten track. Uh yeah, um I was lucky enough 634 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: to I interned in Europe for eight months and um 635 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: I got to I got to visit so many countries 636 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: because Europe is the travel situation is, um, it can 637 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: be pretty cheap, pretty easy, and yeah, you can be 638 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: in one country in a couple of hours, depending on 639 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: where you are in a different country from where you are. 640 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: And I remember the first time I went to Ireland, 641 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: the at passport control at border patrol, the woman checking 642 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: my passport laughed at me because he was like, are 643 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: you trying to check off all the countries or something 644 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, trying to collect them all, um, like pokemon. 645 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: And that was kind of nowadays because the European Union, 646 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: the Shinun Agreement, they don't really stamp your passport when 647 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: you go to a different country, but it um in 648 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: the UK and Ireland they still do, and it used 649 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: to be sometimes if you asked, they would, but now 650 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't advise asking because they get pretty annoyed. Um, 651 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: But I'm glad. I'm glad that your experience traveling alone 652 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: has been so good. And they're flining across the Olympic stadia. 653 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty rad. Oh my god. The first so, 654 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: the first time I left the country properly was to 655 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: go on a trip to Australia, UM for this like 656 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: big human rights training and uh, when I said it was. 657 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: It was so I had been to a few places, 658 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: but never any place like Australia and never I don't 659 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: because ever as an adult, never alone. And when I 660 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: got there, they didn't stamp my passport and I'm about 661 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: how to fit. I was like, I was like, you're 662 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: subbout to stamp it. They didn't stamp it. They didn't 663 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: they didn't stay it like I was. I was like 664 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: having a melk um because there is I mean, it's 665 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: so stupid, but it is like a little I don't know, 666 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: it's dumb, but it's just like proven woun. I wouldn't 667 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: advise asking there, but it's you know, it's just stupid, 668 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: like I can't even like I don't even have ever spots. 669 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: It's dumb, but I wanted it. I understand, I understand. 670 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: I just know that like nowadays, I don't think you'll 671 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: succeed if you ask, and they'll just be mad at 672 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: you can confirm cancer firm. Lisa wrote, I have struggled 673 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: with an eating disorder since I was around seven years old. Seven. 674 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: I have been in proper recovery for six months now 675 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: and I'm doing really well. But of course the diet 676 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: culture is still an unrelenting toxic force I'm faced with 677 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: every day. I remember seeing the tip to eat in 678 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: front of the mirror to discuss yourself many years ago. 679 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: It never resonated with me until I saw it in 680 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: a different light on a truly body positive account. I've 681 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: used this practice as a way to make peace with 682 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: my eating and my body. I've eaten naked in front 683 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: of my mirror to appreciate the beauty and nourishment. Maybe 684 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a helpful tip to other listeners 685 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: struggling in this realm Um Lisa, thank you for sharing. 686 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're in recovery. I'm glad that it's 687 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: going really well, and I'm I'm proud of you for 688 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: taking these steps to get rainy to be. And I 689 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: love this tip. I love the idea of eating naked 690 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: in one of a mirror. UM nourishment can be really beautiful. 691 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: And I hope this tip helps others who are struggling. 692 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: I do too, And I love how you took this tip, 693 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: which I mentioned in that in the episode we did 694 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: around UM Kim Kardashian and eating disorders. UM that when 695 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: I was younger, I read that you should eat in 696 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: front of a mirror to gross yourself out. I love 697 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: that you took that and made it positive. That's wonderful. Yes, 698 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: reclaim reclaim it. Yes, thank you so much to both 699 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: of them for writing in. If you would like to 700 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: write to as you can, our email is mom Stuff 701 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: at host to work dot com. Our Instagram is stuff 702 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: bomb ever told you, and our Twitter is mom Stuff 703 00:40:50,880 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: Podcast and thanks to our producer Andrew Howard too. Don't 704 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: under