1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Popper's Perspective, brought to you 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: by Bob's Discount Furniture, part of the Giants Huttle podcast. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: So every week when the Giants go on the road 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: or they play a home game, we try to look 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: at a game against the opponent that the Giants had 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: from the past. So the Giants don't have a lot 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: of games in Miami against the Dolphins, but one came 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: to mind, and it was nineteen ninety three, the Giants 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: win in Miami. Phil Simms was the quarterback of the 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Giants at that point in time, and he joins us 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: here on the Popper's Perspective podcast. Phil, thank you so 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: much for joining us. 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bob, thanks for having me on. We talked 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: about this game and I said, yes, I remember that, 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: but I did remember as much about the places as 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: I usually do. And what did I tell you? The 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: one thing I remembered was Dan Reeves had all these 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: quarterback sneaks in the game plan every week. I mean 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: literally a box of just six different quarterback sneaks, and 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: I just remember running one down there, maybe two or whatever, 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: and I went, man, we got to stop this because 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: I'm getting killed. Run of these quarter thing. But I 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: just know we won. And we played a preseason game 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: down there that year in the rain, which was different too. 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: Nineteen fourteen was the final score. You'd thrown a twenty 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: yard touchdown past the Howard Cross in the football game, 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: David Treadwell kicks a field goal. They got a Tony 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Martin touchdown late in the game to make it close. 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: I remember Lawrence Taylor Steve de Berg threw for like 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five yards in the game. Because 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Marino didn't play lt I think blew up the guy's 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: face mask and lo and behold. Doug Peterson was a 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: rookie now the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, had 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: to come off the bench. I think he went one 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: for two in the football game. But you were a 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: little disappointed you didn't get a chance to go against Marino, right. 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, very much. That offseason, I was down in 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Florida and I was playing golf, I think with Dan Marino, 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: John Elway and Mark Rippin and you know, all good golfers. 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: But we somewhere along the line we came up with 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: the Hey, you know, Dan goes, we're playing you guys 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: this year. I said, yeah, I know, and I said, 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: you know, you can't beat us, and he really got 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: upset for saying that. I just so, I was really 45 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I thought it's gonna be great 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: because when you play down in Miami, if the weather's 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: not just brutally hot, you love it as a quarterback 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: because it's the football. It just feels great down there, 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: the humidity, everything about it. So I was looking forward 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: to that and having that contest against Dan and everything. 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: But hey, winning's winning, So it wasn't I could accept 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: the fact that we won the game. 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and you did crush him in nineteen 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: ninety at Giant Stadium when they came up right. You 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: guys completely that play now in this game. For I 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: know it's a long time ago, but you were seventeen 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: of twenty four for two fifty seven in the football 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: game with a touchdown, no interceptions passer rating of one 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: nineteen as the elder statesman of that team. Obviously, that 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: was Dan Reeves's first year as head coach. You guys 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: went on to have a great year and you're nearly 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: with a number one seed. What was it like after 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: being in one system and one style of play for 64 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: so long. To have this whole new, different kind of 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: viewpoint of things. 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've said many times that year I 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: had with Dan Reeves it was really special to me, 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: and I really got along with him great, and I 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: think we both were trying to make this relationship work 70 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: and all that it was. I gotta be honest, it 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: was refreshing to learn a whole new offense, new verbiage 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: and everything else like that. I mean, I really I 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: loved it. And that off season was you have energy 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: because you've called plays the same way my whole career 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: for fourteen years, and all of a sudden we got 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: this totally different language and it was fun learning it. 77 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: And man, he expects you to learn like every play 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: by heart. In other words, I had to know every 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: play on the game plan. It's not like it is now. 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: We didn't have two and seventy five plays ready for 81 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: the game, but we you know, we had our share. 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: And that was kind of fun too, because it was 83 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: a challenge every week to go in the room, get 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: quizzed and know everything and all that. But you know 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: that team, as you know, Bob, it's it's brings back 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: a lot of good memories because nobody thought we were 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna be any good. I'm not sure I thought we'd 88 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: be really anything, but we just it was a year 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: where a lot of stuff happened in a good way. 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: That's a good example down there in Miami playing everything, 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: kind of doing really well and just finding a way 92 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 2: to win. And that's what the year was about. 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of reminds me two of the game 94 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: in Chicago. I think when you guys won and Lawrence 95 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: got the ceiling sack. He had an interesting blend of 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: players on that team. Because coach Reevez comes in, he 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: wants to bring in some of his guys, but there's 98 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: still the Super Bowl champion giants that are there, like 99 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: Lawrence and yourself and Mark Collins had an interception in 100 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: that game. You know how are Cross had been part 101 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: of your championship season in nineteen ninety. So it was 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting mix of new guys but then 103 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: true giants that understood what it took to win a championship. 104 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was and uh it blended together, which was 105 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: really cool. And you know too, that was kind of 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: different to all the guys that came in that Dan 107 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: brought in. You know, Mark Jackson was a wide receiver 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: for us, and oh, I'm blanking right now on the 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: big tall kid wide receiver played at UCLA. Who got 110 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: hurt there? Mike? Oh my gosh, when Mike Ghirard went 111 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: down it. I almost cried that night because he was 112 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: so different. I mean big, you know, I throw pass 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: and go oh oh he caught it. You know those 114 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: are you called it? That was a really bad throw, 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: but he made it look so easy. And then of 116 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: course you know he could catch the ball and score 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: and uh but he was awesome, and yeah, it was. 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: It was really interesting too that Dan Reeves had a 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: way of teaching them play that we had with the Giants. Well, 120 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: I was taught to do it this way. He wanted 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: to teach me another way. And I got to be honest, 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: I just couldn't break the habit. And we were playing 123 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: down the Washington Redskins at the time, and I threw 124 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: a couple of passes and where the game is over 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: in the locker room and get ready to leave, he goes, Phil, 126 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: I give up. We're gonna do it your way, and 127 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you so many opportunities with these plays 128 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: and I just went, oh wow, okay, Gregg. You know, 129 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: but he got that game. I read it the way 130 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: I always did, and I was hitting big plays and 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: he goes that that was really like one of the 132 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: fun moments. He just goes, I give up. Don't you worry. 133 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm on design a lot of plays and what that 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: play would be? This one you'll remember Aaron Pearce against 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: the Cowboys the last game of the year, going up 136 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: to scene. That's what it was all about. We were 137 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: a big scene throwing team. He wanted me to read 138 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: the wide receiver to the inside guy and to go 139 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: I just can't do that, and I couldn't break the habit. 140 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: But man, we hit a lot of those scenes that year, 141 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: again like we always did with Bill Parcells as head 142 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: coach and Aaron Pearce. I think it was our very 143 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: first play in the game. I threw it to him, 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: he caught it, big run and unfortunately at the end 145 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: of the run, where was it? You got a great 146 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: memory about the twenty yard line? 147 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, about the twenty yard line. 148 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: Twenty yard line he fumbled it And you know, I 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: don't know if that costs as a game or not, 150 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: but just kind of part of what Dan Reeves did 151 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: to kind of make me happy sometimes too. 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, even in this game in Miami that you guys 153 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: wound up winning, Aaron Pearce in the ballgame wound up 154 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: having let me get the numbers here, he had three 155 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: catches for ninety eight yards, including a fifty four yard 156 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: or so. He was kind of a souped up potentially 157 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: could have been a souped up version of a Bavaro 158 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: right in the sense of really was maybe more speed 159 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: but did a lot of the same things. 160 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. Really. I was always fascinated by his 161 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: talent and should have taken advantage of it more. You know. 162 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: The other one on team you and I talked about 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: whatever a while ago, was Chris Callaway. You know why 164 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: was he tough? And he could he literally he didn't 165 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: catch the ball. He snatched it out of the air. 166 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: He's like, it's both hands and and pull it down. 167 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: And the play. I remember there opening game of the 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: year down in Chicago where it's third and long and 169 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: we take a delay of game because I didn't want 170 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: to waste the time out, so I said, no, I'm 171 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: not calling time out, let's take the delay. Game. It 172 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: was third long last drive of the game, and I 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: threw an in cut to him and I went, oh 174 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: my gosh, oh he caught it and got a big 175 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: first dawn and we went down and scored to win 176 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: the game. But uh, yeah, he was a great competitor 177 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: and just one of those guys on a team that 178 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: we don't pay enough attention to what they really mean 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: to the outcome of so many games. 180 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Going back to this Miami game, the game was played 181 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: on December the fifth, Right, you guys went into the 182 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: game with an eight and three record. They're nine and 183 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: two going into the game at this point in time, 184 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: as you're getting into December, are you getting a sense 185 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: now that this team and you guys found a way 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: to kind of grind out this win. Are you getting 187 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: a sense now with this team that we can really 188 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: be special? You know as you got to nine and 189 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: three in what was a sixteen game schedule obviously at 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: the time. 191 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: Right, yes, I did. I just thought we got a 192 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: little karma. We knew how to play the games, We 193 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: knew where we weren't going to go out there and 194 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: beat you, you know, thirty five to twenty or something 195 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: like that. We managed the game, right, from the start, 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: just like I probably did a lot of my career 197 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: under Bill Parcels or on Earhart. Well maybe Bill parceales 198 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: run it was up to him, we'd go and score 199 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: as many as possible. But but yeah, I did get 200 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: that sense. We got on the bus one game. It 201 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: was in New Orleans. We got on the bus after 202 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: a night game down there, and I was sitting across 203 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: from a coach and he just goes, Hey, he goes, 204 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: do you think that we can really do this? I said, absolutely, hell, 205 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: We've already played all the good team. We know we could. 206 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: He goes, and you know, it was just interesting how 207 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: the coach said to me, is this real? Or And 208 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: I said, you know so? I said absolutely, yes, it's real. 209 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: And we knew. We went out to Arizona got beat, 210 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: but you know why because nobody cared because all we 211 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: could think about was the last game of the year 212 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. 213 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: Right because that that was the game for the not 214 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: only the that was the number one seed game. Whoever 215 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: wins that game gets the number one seed. And the 216 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: way everything kind of unfolds, everybody would have had to 217 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: come to you instead of you having to go to 218 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 219 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're standing on the sideline they're going 220 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: out for the coin flip of the overtime against Dallas Cowboys. 221 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: Bartos is sitting standing next to me. He goes, so, 222 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: what do you think, And I said, if we win 223 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: this game, I said, we're going to go to the 224 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: super Bowl. He goes, well, if he lose, I said, 225 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: we're in trouble. He looked at me like, oh, yeah, 226 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: because I knew going on the road and trying to 227 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: beat San Francisco in Dallas, US both on the road, 228 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: that probably wasn't gonna happen. I was just being realistic. 229 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: But I've told this story many times. After that game, 230 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: and coming back into the locker room, sitting down, everybody's 231 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: kind of gone, and just a few of my teammates 232 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: were there. We all sat around and goes, wow, you know, 233 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: there was a little bit of a satisfaction that we 234 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: knew we played so well and I don't want Yeah, 235 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: we overperformed and that's what we did, and there was 236 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: some satisfaction in that, knowing how we played so many 237 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: good teams so close and lost an overtime game to 238 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. 239 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: Phill we appreciate a couple of minutes, a little stroll 240 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: down memory lane going back to nineteen ninety three in 241 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: Miami with the Giants take on the Dolphins and you 242 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: having a nearly perfect game in a big win against 243 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Miami to get to nine and three on the season. 244 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. 245 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: Us, all right, Bob, thanks for having me. 246 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: Man phil Simms joining us talking about the Giants on 247 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: the road against the Dolphins on this edition of Papa's Perspective, 248 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: part of the Giants Huddle podcast, brought to you by 249 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture and Matnus partner of 250 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: the New York Giants.