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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: I'm Rov Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 2: And today we are looking at Weird House Cinema's first

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Speaker 2: Chinese selection nineteen seventy six. Is Yu Guzi or this

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Speaker 2: it's just it's known elsewhere the oily Maniac, though I

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Speaker 2: believe a more accurate translation of the original title would

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Speaker 2: be the oil Devil. You is oily er greasy, and

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Speaker 2: a guzi is devil, often used as a pejorative in Mandarin.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is our first Chinese film

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Speaker 2: that we're covering here. It is a Shaw Brothers picture,

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Speaker 2: but it is a horror movie, not a kung fu movie,

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Speaker 2: though there's bound to be a little kung Fu in

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Speaker 2: there anyway. It's manufactured in a facility that also processes

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Speaker 2: is martial arts.

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Speaker 3: This one was very so how did you come across

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Speaker 3: this one?

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Speaker 2: I think this one I got. I was turned onto

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Speaker 2: by scrolling through the Amazon Prime films, you know, which

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Speaker 2: is Amazon Prime, which they're not paying for this promotion,

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Speaker 2: but they are generally my go to for streaming weird

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Speaker 2: and older movies, because you know, there's some of these

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Speaker 2: other channels they just focused on the whatever the new

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Speaker 2: thing is. You know, I want like the old forgotten stuff,

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that's like maybe public domain and

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Speaker 2: has like three different listings within the app. So I

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Speaker 2: ran across this thumbnail for this like crazy looking monster

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Speaker 2: which we'll describe here in a bit and with glowing eyes,

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Speaker 2: and it was called the Oily Maniac. And I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm You've got my attention. I'm in and I flagged

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Speaker 3: What an oily maniac it is? This is a great monster. Now,

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Speaker 3: this movie has something I guess we should address right

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Speaker 3: at the top less somebody be tempted to dive in

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Speaker 3: and watch this themselves. I will say this movie has

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Speaker 3: an excellent schlock monster that I'm excited to talk about

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Speaker 3: in some Shaw Brothers energy, which is very good. But

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Speaker 3: this is one where I personally don't think I can

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Speaker 3: actually recommend anybody watch the movie in full because and

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Speaker 3: this is an experience that's worth talking about on this

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Speaker 3: show because it happens a good bit when you are

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Speaker 3: digging through weird, lesser known movies, especially genre films from

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Speaker 3: the seventies and eighties. Well, you know that feeling when

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Speaker 3: you get excited to watch a movie because you see

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Speaker 3: it's got some great, odd looking monster or something like that,

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Speaker 3: but then you get a ways into it and you realize, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: it's one of those. Yeah, and this movie was kind

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Speaker 3: of like that for me. We're not going to dwell

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Speaker 3: be warned that this film has various kinds of extreme

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Speaker 3: sexual grossness and misogyny of different sorts that make it

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Speaker 3: an unpleasant watch in many parts of the movie. So

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Speaker 3: this this might be one that if you're actually interested

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Speaker 3: in checking it out, I might recommend seeking out a

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Speaker 3: clip compilation of the monster scenes instead of watching the

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Speaker 3: whole thing, because the monster scenes are an absolute delight

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Speaker 3: and I wish the entire rest of the film could

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Speaker 3: match them. It's such a shame when what could have

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Speaker 3: otherwise been a purely delightful lipid monster romp is ruined

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Speaker 3: by that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because again, the monster is great. This

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Speaker 2: is a revenge horror film, and so the monster is

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Speaker 2: the vehicle of vengeance. So the monster scenes in the

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Speaker 2: film are wonderful. They're just like you said, these are

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Speaker 2: just the monster wailing on the various villains and also

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Speaker 2: some innocent bystanders in the film. But the things that

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Speaker 2: he's avenging are sometimes sexual assault, which are depicted in

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Speaker 2: the film. So that's the main stumbling point to really

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Speaker 3: But in some ways that it is somewhat thematically appropriate

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Speaker 3: because this movie, i'm to understand, sort of loosely ties

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Speaker 3: into some folklore from Malaysia about about a folk monster belief.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly does, and we'll get back to that

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Speaker 2: towards the end of the film. But yeah, it's tied

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Speaker 2: So you know, on one hand, I guess it's once

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but of course the movie doesn't. It's not like

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Speaker 3: It's more in the exploitation vein it. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I'm playing armchair quarterback a bit here,

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Speaker 3: I like that he goes after corrupt lawyers. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: so if you had just like been the batman, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's basically the elevator pitch here. When corruption

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Speaker 3: Maybe we should hit that trailer audio.

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to it, Lisa, he'sa since I was sure, Shine,

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Speaker 4: he said at the way. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, as you might have guessed from that

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Speaker 2: and I do not believe a dubbed version exists. Maybe

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Speaker 2: A lot of those Shaw Brothers films were dubbed into

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Speaker 2: And certainly the copy that you'll find streaming everywhere and

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Speaker 2: Mandarin with subtitles, which is an interesting proposition for some

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Speaker 2: of multitask, but I don't know. When I'm watching a

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Speaker 2: So that's one of the reasons, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 3: Now, I would say the biggest thing as far as

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Speaker 3: and the Shaw Brothers studio, of course, is very historically important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say, I love it when when

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Speaker 3: The it's kind of like a dimpled frosted glass. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what I get excited about, a nice title card,

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Speaker 2: and this one definitely does it for me. So yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shaw Brothers Studio Film. This studio operated in one name

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Speaker 2: It was one of It was the largest film production

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Speaker 2: cinema as well. The Shaws were Chinese film entrepreneurs. Three

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Speaker 2: which would then become the Shaw Organization, before taking over

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Speaker 3: And the Shaw Brothers studio put out different kinds of films.

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Speaker 3: I would say the ones that I'm most familiar with

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Speaker 3: but there are different kinds they did as well, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is a prime example because this is

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Speaker 2: there's certainly crime in there. This is primarily a horror film.

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Speaker 2: And even specifically we'll get into the ins and outs

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Speaker 3: Sort of like a type of movie. It's like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, apparently so so. Run run Shaw has the

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Speaker 2: sole production credit on The Oily Maniac, one of three

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Speaker 2: such notable films as The thirty sixth Chamber of Shaolin

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Speaker 2: I believe that was part of a last minute funding

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Speaker 3: Oh, I bet that panned out nicely.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know, I have a so Blade Runner

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a great question. It's one of

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Speaker 2: certainly it was more of a critical and cold hit

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Speaker 2: What do you have that out in front of you.

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Speaker 3: No, now I got to take a step even further back.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if it was a critical success

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Speaker 3: the critical consensus on Rotten Tomatoes reads misunderstood when it

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Speaker 2: So who knows run run Shaw might have bought into

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Speaker 2: a lemon there, at least initially. Well, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the director of this film. Meanhajo, who lived nineteen twenty

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Speaker 2: three through two thousand and nine, directed fifty seven films,

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Speaker 2: mostly in the sixties and seventies, including the movie The

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Speaker 2: Flying Guillotine from seventy five, and that's not to be

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Speaker 2: if at least, kicked off a lot of the bizarre

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Speaker 2: there's also a nineteen seventy three non Shop Brothers film

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Speaker 2: that featured that flying guillotine weapon, that sort of strange

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Speaker 3: unrequited love for you a And he gets frustrated in

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00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: his house and then just gets out a pickaxe, digs

435
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: a hole in the floor in the middle of his house,

436
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: takes his shirt off, starts chanting give me peace and power,

437
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: and then crude oil or some kind of gray sudsy

438
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: dishwater type liquid, it bubbles up from the ground. This

439
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: is one of many sequences in the film that just

440
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: have like gray sudsy oil coming up out of something

441
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: and it covers him and then we get the transformation

442
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: for the first monster sequence.

443
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, now I have to drive home. He digs

444
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: that hole and then he climbs into the hole. Yeah,

445
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: and then it fills up with the oily mess. And

446
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: I think this is very fitting because on one hand

447
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: you have like the earthly origins of oil. It's like

448
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: he's communing with spirits of the ground. And then also

449
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: he is about to embark on the profession of revenge,

450
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: you know, and so he's kind of digging his own

451
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: grave here to begin, which is a fitting symbol for

452
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: what he's about to try and achieve.

453
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: Right, So we get a monster transformation. It is not

454
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: quite American werewolf in London level. He's just sort of

455
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: suddenly this monster And how to describe the creature. It

456
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: is basically human shaped, but very bulky, like a person

457
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: in a firefighters suit. And the exterior texture of his

458
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: body is kind of it's so it's oily and it's wrinkly,

459
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: and it's wet and it looks like a sort of

460
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: a black garbage bag covered in slime and water.

461
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but well done for the most part. I mean,

462
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: it depends how it's shot, like some sometimes it looks

463
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: better than other times in the film, But for the

464
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: most part, it's an impressive monster suit with a lot

465
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: of bizarre details.

466
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: Well, I think we should be clear impressive in the

467
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 3: schlock sense, and that it's fun to look at. It's not.

468
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: I would not say this is an especially beautifully suit,

469
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: but yes, for as for like schlock monster, it's up there.

470
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an element. There's kind of a sense of

471
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: swamp thing to it. Yeah, there's a there's kind of

472
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: a sense of yeah, just like oily mess Gollum to it.

473
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, if this think it came and running at me,

474
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: I'd be terrified.

475
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: So it's got glowing fossilized amber for eyes. They don't

476
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: say that that's what it looks like. This this kind

477
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: of yellow, glassy or plasticky material that with lights behind it,

478
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: you kind of get the feeling that if you leaned

479
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: in close and looked in the eyes, you might see

480
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: a mosquito like in mister Hammond's cane. And then it's

481
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 3: got a toothy red mouth that is permanently cocked up

482
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: to one side as if smirking.

483
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

484
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 3: And then the weirdest feature. I don't think they ever

485
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: explained this in the movie, or if they did, I

486
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: missed it there. It has an exposed red beating heart

487
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: that pokes out from the rest of the oily exterior.

488
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: It looks like a sort of red heart that's beating

489
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: but trapped behind plastic.

490
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks it looks really cool and it it

491
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: it looks like such a bull's eye that you assume

492
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: that it's going to somehow factor into the plot or

493
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: into the way that the monster eventually dies.

494
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: But it doesn't stay through the hard or something.

495
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does and it just looks cool.

496
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: What would be what would be the best way? So

497
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: I really feel like they could have played with better

498
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: ways to defeat the oil monster in this movie, like

499
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: using soap or something.

500
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they could. They could have been a little

501
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: more chemically aware, I guess h As it turns out,

502
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: they just stick with fire. Yeah, petroleum consuming microbes. That

503
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: would be like a modern version. I guess that would

504
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: be good.

505
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: But so everything else on this exterior, yes, just these

506
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: oily you know, black garbage bag mud tentacles. And he

507
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: screams with rage. The monster often screams with rage.

508
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah he has. There's some sort of like reverb added

509
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: to the rage scream too, that makes it feel like

510
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: nice and otherworldly. Because again, he's not a he's not

511
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: a product of mad science. He's a product of black magic.

512
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Right, And so from here on out the film is

513
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: mostly greasy violence. The oil Monster hunts and pummels and

514
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: kills people. I think we're to understand that most of

515
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: the people he kills are like bad dudes who deserve it.

516
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: But then the sort of like the bad sexual politics

517
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: come through, Like one of the people he attacks is

518
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: a woman who is portrayed as like a scheming woman

519
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: who falsely accuses men of sexual assault.

520
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Right, and then there's another scene where he wreaks vengeance

521
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: on a crooked plastic surgeon. But then there's a patient

522
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: in the room when he goes on his rampage and

523
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: he just like throws her up against the wall too. Yeah.

524
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: So it's like he's very indiscriminate in his vengeance and rage. Here.

525
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes the first thing he'll do when he comes into

526
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: a room full of people to exact vengeance is just

527
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: smash all the glass items.

528
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, which is a.

529
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: Solid monster costume move. I feel like that from the

530
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: Bloodwaters of Doctor z or Zat did much the same thing,

531
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: and it was a very similar costume in some ways

532
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: bulky probably very difficult to see out of.

533
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we should mention that one of my favorite.

534
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: I would say, actually my single favorite thing about this

535
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 3: movie is when the oil Monster is chasing after someone,

536
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: because we get an animated oil slick that slithers along

537
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: the floor while the Jaws music plays, just straight up

538
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: the Jaws music.

539
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he melts down into a gleaming puddle that's obviously animated,

540
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: and then zooms after I mean zooms like he's able

541
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: to chase a speeding automobile.

542
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the grease So other general characteristics of

543
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: the of the lipid Monster attacks. The Greaseman sometimes runs

544
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: flailing his arms in a helicopter pattern, which doesn't make

545
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: him look as menacing as I think it's supposed to.

546
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: Well I was menaced, but yeah, it is kind of cartoonish.

547
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: He's also a really good jumper, Let's not forget that.

548
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: Well, he has a special kind of superpower which reverse

549
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: footage leaping abilities, So sometimes even as a dummy, there

550
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: are great scenes where he jumps up you know, three

551
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: stories at once and looks oddly kind of like flaccid

552
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: and inanimate. And I think it's just because they're like

553
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: dropping a stuffed suit and then reversing the footage. Yeah,

554
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: very good.

555
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: Now, but a lot of his particular moves during it,

556
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: and he has the helicopter spin. Generally, he's doing what

557
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: I think of is just sort of pro wrestling clubren

558
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: on folks, Like he's just he's just wailing on him

559
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: with his arms. Sometimes he looks like he's even doing

560
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: like a double axe handle thing. He's stomping. He'll stop

561
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: people in the ribs. He'll apply an oily choke. But

562
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: with one notable exception, those are his keys, his key

563
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: moves that he pulls out in his fights.

564
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so there is the plot of the movie

565
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: includes that there's like this furor generated about the Oily

566
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: Maniac attacks, Like there is a scene where he's supposedly

567
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: going around punishing evildoers. There's one scene where he he

568
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: kills a raceist, and then it cuts to newspaper headlines

569
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: and it says Tin Kinyong was killed by the Oily Maniac.

570
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: That's the translation we get of the newspaper headline, and

571
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: then another one says the oil maniac slays Tinkinyong. And

572
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: again I'm wondering if something is lost in translation, because

573
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: that would imply that the reader already knows who the culprit,

574
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: who the culprit is by name and would know who

575
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: or what the oil maniac is.

576
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, on one hand, I can

577
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: imagine that the oily maniac, it might be illuded, like

578
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: his name being in the headlines might be alluding to

579
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: the fact that, okay, this is an established bit of folklore.

580
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: And also there's kind of a cryptid aspect to this

581
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: as well in real life that occasionally you'll see headline.

582
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: Think in twenty twelve it even made headlines internationally when

583
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: there was a little edge sighting of an oil man

584
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: somewhere in Malaysia Singapore, I can't remember which.

585
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so this could be tying into the actual folklore

586
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: basis of the premise of this film.

587
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Right, but certainly for most Western viewers if you're watching this,

588
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: that's going to be lost on you.

589
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: There is so But anyway, so the police are investigating

590
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: the oil maniac attacks. There's one part I really liked

591
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: where a detective is like, I deduce that the culprit

592
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: covers himself in oil to get away faster.

593
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: That's a great line.

594
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's thought that through. I don't

595
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: know how well that would work.

596
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of covering and oil. Though. One of the

597
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: cool things is that when when Danny Lee initially transforms

598
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: into the oil monster, or if you want to calm

599
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: something like hip or I would say you could refer

600
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: to him as the crude dude. When he makes this

601
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: initial transformation, there's the whole ritual in the pit. But

602
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: later apparently all he has to do is just get

603
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: some oil on him in order to transform. Like there's

604
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: a scene at a roadside construction site where there's just

605
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: an open barrel of like seemingly boiling oil and he

606
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: just goes up and starts putting it on himself and

607
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: then jumps in.

608
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another one where he just walks up to

609
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: a gas station, takes out the diesel pump, sprays it

610
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: all over himself, and transforms. And the stuff that comes

611
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: out of the diesel pump is it's I guess supposed

612
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: to be crude oil. It's like this dark liquid, but

613
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: again it's kind of gray and sudsy, like like old dishwater,

614
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: and I just don't think that's what diesel fuel looks like.

615
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: So one scene in this movie that is not a

616
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: monster attack scene and is also not revolting, but it's

617
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: just fun. Is the Curry disappointment scene? Can you explain this?

618
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so there are this is not really a movie

619
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: for great female characters, but no, he essentially has two

620
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: potential love interests. One is the you know, the the

621
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: poor woman who's who was her father, right or that

622
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: that died right was executed? No, trying to remember what

623
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: her relationship is to any other character in the film.

624
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: I think she works with Danny and she just works

625
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: with him.

626
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Say no, no, no, there's the law. There's basically there's

627
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: work love interest, and then there's the other love interest.

628
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: There's Ua and.

629
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's u A and then there's work lady. Okay, okay,

630
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: so he's he's totally smitten with u A, but he's

631
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: he he keeps getting help from this lady at work.

632
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: She he comes over to her apartment, and of course

633
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: he's just sort of saying, oh, everything's the worst. You know,

634
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm having all these problems, and she's like, what do

635
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: you do You like Curry and he's like, oh, I

636
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: love Curry, but I only love her Curry. Anything else

637
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: just disgust me. And then we sort of pan out

638
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: and she's like, but I made curry and there's like

639
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: this full table set with this luscious looking curry dish and.

640
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: The passion in this scene the remorse he after he

641
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: disappoints her about the curry that plays remorse music. It's

642
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: like the remorse theme from The Oily Maniac.

643
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the curry disappointment scene is great. I recommend it.

644
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Another interesting scene that occurs that doesn't involve monsters or

645
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: anything is this. I was impressed by the speed with

646
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: which the police tap all the office phones and I

647
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: couldn't help but wonder, Okay, is this just movie logic

648
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: or is this an actual, like accurate representation of phone

649
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: tapping by law enforcement in Malaysia or Hong Kong at

650
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: the time. I'm not sure.

651
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder. Well, anyway, it all builds up to

652
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: a final confrontation between the Oily Maniac and the many

653
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: forces of evil and corruption in this movie, which are

654
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 3: a loosely affiliated group of I don't know, criminals and gangsters.

655
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's a massive battle with like all the

656
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: oily special effects they can muster, and it's pretty fabulous. Yeah.

657
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 3: Again, if if you're tempted to see part of this movie,

658
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: it might be and you just want to check out

659
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: one scene, it might be best to just skip skip

660
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: to the end and watch this ending battle scene.

661
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: Though I will say there is an excellent kill in

662
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: the film before that where the evil lawyer and his

663
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: mistress are you have sped away and they've gone to

664
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: like a makeout place and they're like going to make

665
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: out in the car, and then the oily maniac attacks

666
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: and it's a great scene where he starts dripping down

667
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: all the windows, you know, it's very blob esque, and

668
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: then suddenly he's in the back seat and then he

669
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: grabs the lawyer's head and crushes it like a coconut,

670
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: and we don't see much of it, which actually kind

671
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: of helps make it work more. But yeah, there is

672
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: a headburst scene and that's probably the most violent, physically

673
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: violent thing we see the monster do to anybody.

674
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Otherwise it's mostly just beat downs's traditional beatdowns, martial

675
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: arts film style style beatdowns, though the oil Monster does

676
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: have tricks other than just like kicking and punching that

677
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: we've already said. He's got the reverse footage jump, but

678
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: he also has a trick he reveals I think only

679
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: in that final battle, which is that he can spray

680
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: oil out of his mouth and this is kind of

681
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: like the James Bond car trick where it shoots out

682
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: the oil slicks so the other cars behind ll skid

683
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: all over the place, but in this case, he just

684
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: vomits oil all over the faces of his attackers.

685
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also an R two D two trick by the way.

686
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, But he's got but

687
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: he's got powers that make him very too difficult to defeat.

688
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: So the enemies hack him with machetes and stuff or

689
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: swords and like they can lop his arm off, but

690
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: then it just regenerates because he's got the oil magic.

691
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: Right, And there are a couple of times where they

692
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: shoot him full of bullets and then he'll melt down

693
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: into a puddle and then he'll like regenerate back up

694
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: to full strength. They're really proud of that effect because

695
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: they roll it out about twice.

696
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. But in the end, the oily Maniac is defeated

697
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 3: by who would a thunk it fire?

698
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he goes too far, Like he has the

699
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: police and he's about to crush their heads in a

700
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: double headlock sort of situation, and she's like, no, you

701
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: have to stop. You have to leave them alone. He

702
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: won't do it, so he gets torched.

703
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: Yep and uh, and then we see his like body

704
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: on the ground burning up and it sort of it

705
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: burns like old newspaper. And then once again there is

706
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: a really sudden and funny music transition where the oily

707
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: maniac is blown away like burned newspaper, and then soft,

708
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: happy music just kicks right in.

709
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do like the old school monster movie ending

710
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: of the monster is dead. The end, there's no there's

711
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: no at all. Yeah, I do want to get get

712
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: back to the Malaysian roots here, the folkloric roots, because indeed,

713
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: there is a creature in Malaysian folklore known as the

714
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Orong Mignac or oily man, and according to the University

715
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: of Southern California Digital Folklore Archives, the Yeah, the oily

716
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: man is a creature of Malaysian folklore with appearances in Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia,

717
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: and Singapore, and the main constant in the folk tradition

718
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: is that we have an oily humanoid that assaults women

719
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: at night, especially virgins, and the origins vary quite a bit.

720
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's said to be just a dark creature of

721
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: the spirit world. Other times he's a human, a quote

722
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: spurned lover that has powers due to his solicitation of

723
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: either a bomo, a Malaysian witch doctor, or a contract

724
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: with a creature from the spiritual world.

725
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: So this makes it seem like maybe a lot of

726
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: the creepy sexual associations of the oily maniac or not

727
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: just in the movie, but they're also in the folk

728
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: tales that the movie is based on.

729
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: Yes, it would seem to be the case. Like it is,

730
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: it is a like a folklort creature, sometimes again a

731
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: cryptid even it's this dark oily creature that creeps around

732
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: in the night and attacks women, hard to see in

733
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: the dark, slippery if you grab him. Also, in some versions,

734
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: apparently he likes to steal things, but I didn't find

735
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: a lot of details on that. The other interesting thing

736
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: is that this was not the first oily maniac film

737
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: or oil man film. There was a series of these

738
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: that were produced in Singapore in the fifties and sixties,

739
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: such as Curse of the Oily Man in fifty six

740
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: and The Oily Man in fifty eight, So it was

741
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: already an established movie monster before the Shaw Brothers came

742
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: around and gave it not just an oily naked human appearance,

743
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: but this awesome swamp thing esque treatment. And apparently, yeah,

744
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: there are still supernatural sightings of the Orong Mignac in

745
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: contemporary Malaysia. I've ran across a twenty twelve II nine

746
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: article about it, and there was even a Live Science

747
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: article by Benjamin Radford about it, who made a special

748
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: made special mention of cryptid enthusiasts getting in on the

749
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 2: oily man legend and saying, well, we think it might

750
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: be a sasquatch of some sort.

751
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the old hidden primate theory.

752
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I don't think there's any reality to that.

753
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: My opinion on the possible presence of oily primates.

754
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: I would agree. And I think it's also interesting that

755
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: you see this with some other types of cryptied legends,

756
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: a connection between certain types of alleged cryptid sightings and

757
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: taboo fixations people who are having kind of scary thoughts

758
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: at the boundaries of sex and violence.

759
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I want to get into this film's place

760
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: in Hong Kong Cinema for a few minutes as well,

761
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: because yeah, I mean it's important to note, Yeah, this

762
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: is a again a black magic film, a Hong Kong

763
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: black magic film, and granted, black magic has long been

764
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: part of Chinese myths and legends, but then we see

765
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: this film as part of a shift in how it's

766
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 2: treated cinematically. Apparently, according to James Mudge of Easternkicks dot

767
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Com in an article titled black Magic and Sleazy Spells

768
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: the Shaw Brothers Horror Films, the horror output of the

769
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: shows Shaw Brothers between the late fifties in the mid

770
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: eighties was hugely influential on Hong Kong horror cinema, and

771
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be till Samo Hung's Spooky Encounters films of

772
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties that the style took a different turn.

773
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: But even then, Mudge rights, Shaw inspired sleazy sorcery and

774
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: grotesque black magic played a major role in the nineteen

775
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: nineties boom in what are referred to as Category three

776
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: rated genre cinema. Category three is like the was the

777
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: extreme exploitation rating. So again, this was part of a

778
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: movement of films that had a real impact and of

779
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: the oily maniac in particular. Mudge rights quote, the film

780
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: is a wacky affair, dripping with sleeves and jarring shifts

781
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: of tone, and though it makes little sense in both

782
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: some hilariously cheap special effects, it has become a firm

783
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: favorite of trash cinema fans. And then I also found

784
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: an article by this was by Danny Chen wing Kit

785
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: from twenty nineteen published in Hong Kong Studies titled Spectualizing

786
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: Southeast Asia Hong Kong Cinema of Black Magic, and in

787
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: this wing Kit makes an interesting point about Oily Maniac's

788
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: place in the history of Hong Kong black magic films.

789
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: Films such as this and seventy five's Black Magic and

790
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: seventy six is Black Magic Part Two they dealt with

791
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: black magic beyond the limits of Hong Kong and modern

792
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: urban living quote a haunted community kept at bay from

793
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: Hong Kong, but later films they write across the boundary,

794
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 2: bringing the black magic into the city. And in this

795
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: wing Kin writes, we see an example of cultural bias

796
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: and prejudice towards Southeast Asian cultures, and this becomes even

797
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: more key during the eighties as Hong Kong searches for

798
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: its place in the world. Quote in Hong Kong's Black

799
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: Magic Cinema, a spectralized Southeast Asia is one of the

800
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: most sought after imaginaries of otherness for the city to

801
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: compensate for its national ambiguity.

802
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe the ideas that in some of these

803
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: early Sleazy Sorcery films it was imagining non Chinese Southeast

804
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Asia as as a place kind of like I don't know,

805
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: like the you know, the rural Texas of the Texas

806
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Chainsaw mass exactly like this dangerous, this dangerous other place

807
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: where there are savage forces afoot. But then over time

808
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 3: there is a shift in cinema where those forces are

809
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: are sort of moved inward and migrated back into the

810
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: home base.

811
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of the Jason takes Hong Kong movement.

812
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: It takes Manhattan. Yeah.

813
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, I thought that was interesting. Yet it's you know,

814
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: looking at how this film is sort of like what

815
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: role it plays in the history of Hong Kong horror

816
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: films and also what it may reveal, according to this

817
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: one author anyway, about about Hong Kong and its culture

818
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: and it's and how it viewed you know, the other

819
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: parts of the world as well.

820
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: Well.

821
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: Now, one thing that's certainly worth mentioning here is the

822
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: monster science parallel between the oily maniac and plenty of

823
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: creatures in the real world which do sometimes cover themselves

824
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: with different types of fluids, oils, lipids, slimes of various

825
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: kinds in order to actually improve their survival odds.

826
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And of these creatures, and there are many, the

827
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: best example is probably always going to be the hagfish

828
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: of class MIXINNY and the order mixinif formis and these

829
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: are If you haven't seen these, you should look them

830
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: up because they're they're bizarre. They're they're weird creatures. And

831
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: you read the writings the scientific journal writings of people

832
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: who study them, and they totally agree. They're like, these

833
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: creatures are weird. We still don't understand everything about them.

834
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: They are strange because they are eel like, they are jawless,

835
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: their marine fish that can produce vast quantities of slime

836
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: when threatened, and then they can tie themselves in a

837
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: traveling knot which they use to sort of slip free

838
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: of their own slime, to sort of wring their own

839
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: limbless bodies, free of the slimy ooh that they've secreted.

840
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 3: I think we should stop for a moment, though, and

841
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: appreciate just how much slime a hagfish can produce. When

842
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: I've read about this in the past, it was mind boggling,

843
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: and I just had to look it up again. There's

844
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: a great article by Edyng in The Atlantic about hagfish,

845
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: and I want to read a quote here. He says, quote, Typically,

846
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 3: a hagfish will release less than a teaspoon of gunk

847
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: from the hundred or so slime glands that line its flanks,

848
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: and in less than half a second, that little amount

849
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: will expand by ten thousand times, enough to fill a

850
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: sizeable bucket. Reach in, and every move of your hand

851
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: will drag the water with it. Wow and the knee,

852
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: quotes a researcher named Douglas Fudge of Chapman University, who

853
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: says it doesn't feel like much at first, as if

854
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: a spider has built a web underwater. But then ed

855
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: writ's quote. But try to lift your hand out in

856
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: as if the bucket's contents are now attached to you.

857
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: Wow. That's incredible. Yeah, And that bucket's worth of content

858
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: that's often going to potentially going to be the mouth

859
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: of the creature, the sea creature that tried to eat it.

860
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: So the idea is they just clog up the creature

861
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: that tried to consume them, and then they move away

862
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: and then they're free. There are some hagfish that may

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Speaker 2: use their slime offensively while hunting, apparently, but most hagfish

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Speaker 2: thrive on the bottom of the ocean, feasting on rotten carcasses,

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Speaker 2: and the slime is for when they are agitated by something.

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Speaker 3: Now there's another parallel actually between the hagfish and the

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Speaker 3: oily maniac. And then they've got a weird heart, right,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 2: Hagfish are also notable for their quote unquote zombie hearts,

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Speaker 2: which can keep beating for thirty six hours without any oxygen,

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Speaker 2: allowing them to thrive in deep oxygen deprived environments. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't help but wonder if that is a zombie

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Speaker 2: heart we see beating in the oily ma Aniac's chest.

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Speaker 3: Very nice. Okay, well, I guess that does it for

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Speaker 3: the oily maniac.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: I will say I can't really recommend watching the whole movie.

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Speaker 3: It is a it is a kind of it is

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Speaker 3: a kind of disturbing and morally bad affair. But you

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Speaker 3: should definitely check out those monster scenes, the monster fights

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Speaker 3: or it's it's the best lipid man kung fu you

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Speaker 3: will ever see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to again. I'd love to see this

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Speaker 2: monster get a better treatment and a less sleazy film.

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Speaker 3: I want.

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Speaker 2: I want the film to be greasy but not sleazy, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want some good, clean, greaseman fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, just have him wailing on bad guys the

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Speaker 2: whole time. I have to say, in looking around on

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Speaker 2: Google scholar for any like academic mention of him, I

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Speaker 2: did run across a I think it was like a

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Speaker 2: bachelor's degree thesis in game design where someone was making

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Speaker 2: the argument. They were like, we need stealth games that

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Speaker 2: feature the oily maniac. And I didn't read the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know how how pervasive that argument is

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Speaker 2: this treatment, but they were like, yeah, he's like a

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Speaker 2: naturally skealthy he can melt underdoors and all. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe if that potential game designer like feel

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Speaker 2: strongly about it enough, will eventually see an oily maniac

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Speaker 2: stealth video game.

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Speaker 3: That is a heck of a concept. Tap X to

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Speaker 3: reverse footage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so where can you see this? If

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Speaker 2: you dare again, we've given you the disclaimers that are necessary,

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Speaker 2: I think. But if you want to watch the Oily

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Speaker 2: Maniac or just skip to the key scenes we mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you can stream this baby on Amazon Prime. You can

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Speaker 2: buy it or rent it digitally other places as well.

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Speaker 2: It's in Mandarin with English subtitles. DVDs and Blu rays

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Speaker 2: are also available, though I can't make any promises about

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Speaker 2: region and so forth. I also want to point out

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Speaker 2: that when this film came out in Uzbekistan, according to IMDb,

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Speaker 2: the video CD title was Zombie twelve The Insane Oily Free,

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Speaker 2: which we've encountered zombie with other films, generally with Italian

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Speaker 2: films right where it's just anything that can remotely be

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Speaker 2: tied into into the zombie franchise, into Dawn of the

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Speaker 2: Dead and so yeah. So it sounds like this was

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Speaker 2: even more the case in his beckets Stand where someone's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we got another movie. Has it got a monster in it?

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Speaker 2: Zombie twelve?

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Speaker 3: The only way to see it is in the original

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Speaker 3: lowse bec.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, we're going to go ahead and close

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Speaker 2: close the drum on this one, but obviously we'd love

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Speaker 2: to hear from anybody who has thoughts on this film.

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Speaker 2: Or its place in Hong Kong cinematic history, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, if you want to check out other

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Speaker 2: a personal website. It's Samuda Music dot com. Samuda Music

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Speaker 2: like in Dune and I just do some blog posts

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Speaker 2: about these movies as we put them out, so if

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