1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: The single best day. 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: It was an odd day. It started at seven pm 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: last night when the Japanese market opened. Yes, I'm on 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: my iPhone with the Bloomberg app. It's phenomenal, all the 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: information you need, equities, bonds, currencies, commodities. And by midnight 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: we were really off to the races with some continued 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: angst and the global market generally witnessed in bonds with 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: yield up, price down, the classic inverse relationship. Things improved 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: two am, three am, but we came in here with 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: the backdrop of the legislation in Washington. There was a 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 3: real diceiness to it. As I taped this bitcoin over 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: one hundred and seven thousand gold up twenty dollars, says all, 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: I have no idea where will be this afternoon, which 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: is what keeps us going. One of the great moments today, 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: Martin Norton joined us from Empower Full Disclosure, Empower the 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: people that handle my retirement plan, everybody else at Bloomberg, 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: you know, the administration and all that. They're out of Winnipeg, Canada, 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: and Marta Norton is is also at a morning Star 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: and she said something brilliant that should be bronzed across 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: all of our minds on investment. Here Marta Norton on philosophy. 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: My kind of grounding at morning Star. One of the 23 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: biggest takeaways that I had to your point, I grew 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: up as an investor at morning Star. It was the 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: importance of an investment philosophy, having a point of view, 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: a framework that would help you distill what's happening in 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: the markets and make determinations going forward. If you look 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: at you know, kind of the most successful strategies out there. 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: They're not successful in every environment, but they have a 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: touchstone that they return to, and I think those touchstones 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: are really important to navigating shopping markets. 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: I of course selected that first the best idea because 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: I incredibly agree with it. If you don't have a philosophy, 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: either find one or find somebody who has a philosophy. 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: You think you have but you don't have it. If 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: you do have a philosophy, stick with it and test 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: it in your mind each and every day, which is 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: what you do within the focus on the media and 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: however you get your information on equities, bonds, currencies, commodities, 40 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: on equities. Brian belksk. He enjoy this. Brian Belski of 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: BEMO Capital Markets the Bank of Montreal, Brian Belski on 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: the oddities of the moment, he thinks we've come too far, 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: too quick, but nevertheless he remains a bull. 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: Let's listen, shocks can go up when yields go up. 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: You know, the average ten year treasury of the last 46 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 4: seventy five years is five percent. 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: Zero percent is not normal. 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: What's happened in the said since November of two thousand set, 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, August of two thousand and seven is not normal, 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: And I think we're kind of returning to normalcy on 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 4: the bond side of things. Even though we're primarily equity people, 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: we believe the majority of returns total returns of bonds 53 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: the next ten years is going to be about yield, 54 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: not price performance. Remember the last forty years, we've seen 55 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: massive all performance of bonds for the most part, and 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: we've had great price performance. 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: So I think Tom that we're entering into. 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: This period where more even returns for stocks high single digit, 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: low double digit. 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: Same thing with Ernie's growth. 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: Where a yield environment that can kind of hover in 62 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: this three fifty to four to fifty range predominantly. 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: And again in conversation from another time and place. 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