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Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. Here's what's gonna convince people's self driving cars

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Speaker 1: are electric vehicles or worthwhile? How cheap are they to fix?

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Speaker 1: And how often do they break? And that's really the

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Speaker 1: kig brack of it, said the Car Doctor. Look at

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Speaker 1: of the bracket. Welcome to the radio home of Ron

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Speaker 1: Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners

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Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: Mr Ray is on the other side of the glass

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Speaker 1: or rearing up and ready to go. I think Mr

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Speaker 1: of air as we get this second hour this weekend,

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Speaker 1: get through a tech firms lead in voice race and

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Speaker 1: carmakers reluctant to seed control to computing giants. And it

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Speaker 1: you buy a new Nissan, you can tell Amazon's unlok

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Speaker 1: personal assistance. I always think about that movie, and I'm

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Speaker 1: But um, you know, they evolved society to that point

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Speaker 1: telling the story of the shop. This week we finally

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Speaker 1: figured out the two thousand eight expedition and worth of

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Speaker 1: station on Pandora. I'm reading from the article how much

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Speaker 1: Do I need that? Yeah? I mean I don't use

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Speaker 1: it's it's also too much technology. It's you're easier for

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Speaker 1: all that really important? Um? Think of all the conversational

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Speaker 1: Mr Ratwood knows what I'm talking about. Um. But in

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Speaker 1: car Doctor? Sir? How can I help? Oh? Love the

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Speaker 1: show every week on Thank You? The specific question was

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Speaker 1: seven Buick regal body. Uh, the antenna power antenna started

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Speaker 1: and that disables the alarm and other stuff radio. But

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Speaker 1: but you can find idle air controlled noid lights that

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00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: will blink different colors. Red means this, green means that,

429
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: and so on to tell if the drivers are working

430
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: and doing what they're supposed to do. So, but you know,

431
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: the idea is is the i AK movable? Is it stuck?

432
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: Is it jammed against carbon? All? Right? Next? How are

433
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: the battery cables? How clean? And I know this, you know,

434
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: we're into a weird generation of vehicle here in Christler.

435
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: They seem to have their issues with battery terminal cleanliness,

436
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: battery cable cleanliness, and what kind of condition the grounds

437
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: were in. So make sure the ground strap coming off

438
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: the battery, where it goes to the block, where it

439
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: goes to the fender, the body ground, the chassis ground

440
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: you may want to voltage drop grounds just to make

441
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: sure that you have good contact and good cleanliness all

442
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: the way across. If you get this to the point

443
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: where it idols and the with with the connector plugged in,

444
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: if the truck has air conditioning, turn the air on.

445
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: Do you hear a change in the RPM? Is it

446
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: picking up the IAK? If you have a scan tool

447
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 1: and you have the ability to look at idle counts,

448
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: do the idole counts change? Because that's part of this. Also. Last, okay,

449
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: how dirty or how clean is the throttle body? All right?

450
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Which is you know, the plate that the throttle body

451
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: sits against. Although I've and I've got to make an

452
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: assumption because it's an email, I don't get I can't

453
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: talk to you. Um, you know, is the throttle body dirty?

454
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: That would be something to look at and consider also,

455
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: and then definitely the last before we get any deeper

456
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: into diagnostics, where's the throttle position censor voltage? Alright? A

457
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: throttle position centsor that's the three wire center that sits

458
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: on the side of the throttle body. You know, it's

459
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: five vault reference, a ground and a signal wire. Going

460
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: back to the PCM it's the way that the computer

461
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: sees throttle position, all right, It measures it off a voltage,

462
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: all right, and you you know you're you're looking to see,

463
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, just exactly where's the TPS. We could also

464
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: be getting into do we have a bad TPS. We

465
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: haven't set the fault code yet? Is it? Is it lost?

466
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: You know, a typical a typical throttle position sensor setting. Uh,

467
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: you know of this generation will be somewhere between a

468
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: half and a vault all right, And you can see

469
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: that on a scan tool. You could also use that

470
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: do that figuring it out with a digital vaultometer. Make

471
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: sure you use a good quality meter. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to create any issues, uh computer wise. But you know

473
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: we've got to look at the TPS and stop and

474
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: consider that. Last okay, last again, last right, um, do

475
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: we have any vacuum leaks? You say you can get

476
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: the car to run with your foot on the throttle,

477
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: although a vacuum week you would think would raise the

478
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: idle speed all by itself and because the RPM to

479
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: go higher. But I'd be curious, do we have any

480
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: massive leaks? Do we have something the computer can't compense

481
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: or the vehicle can't compensate for. And where's fuel trim

482
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: when you get this warmed up? Can you get this

483
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: to warm up? And if sitting there, whether you're holding

484
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: your foot or whether you're idling on your own without

485
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: it plugged in, whereas fuel trim warmed up? Is it?

486
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: Is it anywhere is near the middle of the road?

487
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Is it zero plus or minus ten percent? Short term?

488
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: And and so forth? What's this computer trying to compensate

489
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: or do um? Those are the things you want to

490
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: look for. And you know, perhaps maybe if you still

491
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: got the old one, you want to put the old

492
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: idolayer control back in and try some of those things,

493
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: and and and work your way up to replacing it,

494
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: because not replacing it or replacing it without some testing.

495
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: You know, we had a had a nine Mercury Grand

496
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: Market in the shop this week. I'll tell you the

497
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: story this way. And the customer's complaint was an intermittent

498
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: no charging condition. So we brought the carbon and you know,

499
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: naturally the charge light on the dashboard was out. The

500
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: system was charging at fourteen point two vaults. Now I

501
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: suspect from my notes and from my database, my own

502
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: database on this car that when and the vehicle gets

503
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: under eleven point eight vaults, it's gonna turn on that

504
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: charge light. I let it sit there in idle for

505
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: the better part of thirty minutes. Heavy electrical load air conditioning.

506
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: We're de foger directionals, headlights, high beam, and I finally

507
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: got the charging system to drop the twelve point oh

508
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: eight vaults not acceptable. UM. I also saw a maximum

509
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: amperage output of amps. It's a hundred and thirty am voltanator.

510
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what the demand was. I've got

511
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: no measurement there, but my point is and here's where

512
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: it got interesting. I figured for giggles because the customer

513
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: also complained about an electrical smell. He was smelling something

514
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: burning when the car turned on the light. I took

515
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: my thermal imager. You know, it's just a heat gun

516
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: tells you the temperature surface temperature of various things. You

517
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: think an alternator is supposed to be four hundred and

518
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: twenty two degrees. Uh, you know, the internal windings were

519
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty two degrees. And this is January,

520
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: all right. And I realized the shop is warm. You know,

521
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: the heats on its six degrees in there, but four

522
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: dred and twenty something degrees out of the alternator, and

523
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I explained it to lou Is. Actually lou used to

524
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: work force where we work on his cars now, and um,

525
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: he said, you think it's supposed to be that, And

526
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I said, Gelu, I don't know. I don't have any

527
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: database that goes back to a known good alternator of

528
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Feurigner and twenty two degrees. So I put an alternator

529
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: in it. I figured the twelve vaults, Um, you know,

530
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: the high tempt, the smell, it all made sense. I

531
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: put an alternator in it. I was right because now

532
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: it will hold fourteen point two vaults all day long

533
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: and charge a hundred and eighteen amps. So I guess

534
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: that alternator didn't even have the amperage output, and it's

535
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: got a maximum temperature right now going on with about

536
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: two and seventy two degrees. That was the high. So

537
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: my point is, as in your IAK, that I can

538
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: now tell you what known good is because I've tested,

539
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I've recorded, I've measured, and I've documented, And that's you know,

540
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: fixing cars isn't calling up somebody and saying, hey, what

541
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: part do I change? You got an while you're changing

542
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: it because you can't believe the part, every part is

543
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: absolutely perfect anymore. There's still gotta be some testing and

544
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: understanding of how it works. So just my two cents.

545
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: If that doesn't do it for you, now, you gotta

546
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: get on the phone and we gotta talk, and I

547
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: promise I'll be easy. Eight zero. We're on any of

548
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: the Car Doctor coming back right after this. Okay, welcome

549
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: back from the end of the Car Doctor. Let's go

550
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: over and talk to Bread in Colorado. Some comments about technology. Bread,

551
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir. What's going on? How

552
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: are you doing today? I'm doing good man. What's cooking anyway? Um?

553
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I have been buying sixties Chevrolets. Okay, I'm doing some

554
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: minor work on them and reselling them at a decent profit.

555
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: And I love older cars and they're so much easier

556
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: to work on. The one absolutely, And there there's something.

557
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: It's like a farmer working in the dirt to grow plants.

558
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: You know, there's something enriching about you know, rust and

559
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: knuckles and bolts, and you know there's something. I live in.

560
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: I live in southeastern Colorado and and I buy cars

561
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: around from around here or Arizona because of what you

562
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: talked about earlier about them the manifold bolt, you know,

563
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: or the manifolds not coming right off. Yeah, it's it's crazy,

564
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: you know. I haven't run into a bunch of rust

565
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: or anything like that, because I only you know, buying

566
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: a certain area and make sure that the car is

567
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: from that certain area, right right, Yeah, it's what what

568
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: sort of what sort of chevys are you? If any

569
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: particularly is a muscle cars or I am I am,

570
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Um I found a niche cor bears are the cheapest

571
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: best buy there are. How do I know it was

572
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: going to be Revere's you know, a very a very

573
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: misunderstood car, but a great car really and truly well

574
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: you know it's it's based on an aircraft engine, and

575
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand him, and there's afraid

576
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: of them. And I've taken them totally apart and resealed.

577
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: If I've had like nine so far over over my

578
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: sixty years. And um, I fell in love and eight

579
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: two and bought my first convertible corvet for a couple

580
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: of grand and um I drove it for seven or

581
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: eight years and it got wrecked and and and this

582
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: is in Michigan. It was a California car, but the

583
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: self destroyed it. I had to drive at one winner

584
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: because my winter corvet um got wrecked by a drunk

585
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: driver and I had to I had to drive my

586
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: summer one for a few months of assault and it

587
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: destroyed it. Yeah. Yeah, But anyway, I've been doing very

588
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: well at my little enterprise, and I've i've I bought

589
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: two last year and sold to and did pretty well

590
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: on him. I didn't, I didn't, you know, hold out

591
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: for big money. But I could have held out for

592
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: more money on each one of them. But but it

593
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: was a good turnover. And and now I've got a

594
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: line of credit at the bank, and I could just

595
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: have me overdrawn my checking account whatever I want and

596
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: go buy a car. And you look at that, and

597
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, and might go back to my

598
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: other comment bread about cash for clunkers, right, Imagine if

599
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: it was geared towards Imagine if in nine two there

600
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: was a cash for clunkers program and all the all

601
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: the muscle cars would have gone, and all the early

602
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: sixties cars would have gone, and and none of this

603
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: industry would be around, and and nobody would be here

604
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: to enjoy them. And think of the economy of it

605
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: would affect that guys like you can't do what you're

606
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: doing and make a living at it and get some fulfillment.

607
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: And you know, isn't that why we're here on the

608
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: planet to get some fulfillment while we can when we can. Brad,

609
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Let me pull over and take

610
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: this last pause, and thanks for being part of the

611
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: car Doctor family. I'm on Anny in the car Doctor.

612
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Hey, welcome back the

613
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: car Doctor. Closing it out, Let's go and talk to

614
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Pauline in Massachusetts and No. Seven Honda Odysse. Pauline, how

615
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: can I help? Yes, I had problems this summer with

616
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: the power staring going on my car, and they towed

617
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: it to the garage and they did the fluid and

618
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: whatever they had to do, and it cost me about

619
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: my dollars for them to do whatever needed to be done.

620
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Right shortly afterwards, every time you would put your foot

621
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: on the brake pedal and you'd go to stop the car,

622
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: it would make this hissing sound. And so I took

623
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: it to the Honda dealer and he couldn't put his

624
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: finger on it. But then they checked it out, and

625
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: he said that it was the wrong polsteering stuff that

626
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: had been put in, so they recommended it changing the fluid.

627
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: And now they judged me like six hundred dollars to

628
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: do this. Okay, today I stopped my carrop and the

629
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: noise that it was making was crazy, and I went

630
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: to the garage and he needed polysteering. So I'm like,

631
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: should I be worried about a little stuff like this

632
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: or well, let's let's let's let's back up real quick.

633
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: So first of all, oh five through probably Odysse's and

634
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: some of the accords have known issues two areas of

635
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: power steering. One the reservoir is a problem where it

636
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: will restrict fluid to the pump, make noise called pre

637
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: cause premature pump failure. So I'm hoping that as part

638
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: of the pump repair or the system repair, they put

639
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: a new Honda power steering pump in, uh, not a pump,

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Speaker 1: but a reservoir in to make sure that the fluid

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Speaker 1: is clean and being dispensed properly. That's number one. There's

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Speaker 1: actually a bulletin from Honda out if you have a pencil.

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Speaker 1: The bulletin number was oh seven, dish double oh five

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Speaker 1: and it was dated August of two thousand nine, and

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Speaker 1: it talks about this particular problem whining and humming from

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Speaker 1: the power steering. That's number one. Number two, it has

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Speaker 1: to be Honda or the equivalent power steering fluid. Honda

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Speaker 1: is very very specific about correct or their type of

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Speaker 1: power steering fluid. Um idu Metsu makes it. You can

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be from Honda, but it has

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Speaker 1: to be too Honda specification, So be sure the garage

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Speaker 1: used correct power steering fluid. Number three, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: there's a leak in the system, so let's do an evaluation.

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Speaker 1: If they don't see any fluid leaks, but it's still

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Speaker 1: using or losing fluid. Asked them to look behind the

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Speaker 1: bellows of the steering rack itself. One of the internal

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Speaker 1: rack seals maybe leaking, and that's going to lead to

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Speaker 1: bigger problems. I'm on Anni in the car doctor, mechanics

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Speaker 1: aren't expensive. Tip preceless