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You 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: can get him on x at Albert Breer AB, good morning. 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: You want to make sure we're good here? I mean, 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: I uh, it sounds like some people. 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: Have some problems with us being number one. 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, here came in hot. Albert Breer 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 6: came in hot today. 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 7: Dan, Let's let's let's us. 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 6: Out Albert. 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: To schedule. 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: They faced the SEC. 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 8: Right, hold on, hold on, and m and Indiana both 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 8: have played so far a tougher schedule and. 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 7: And have better wins. 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: Really played a tougher schedule though, Yeah, or are you 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 5: or are you just going by the patch on their jersey? No? 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 8: And this is where, like I think a lot of 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 8: people who want to try to act like the SEC 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 8: doesn't have a greater group of good football teams. I mean, look, 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 8: Ohio State is probably the best team in the country. 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 8: Indiana's right there at number two. Like you can, you 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 8: can make those cases, but don't act like AM's not 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 8: right there, and don't act like the SEC doesn't have 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 8: more more depth. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 7: They've got better teams. 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 5: They know they do more. 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 7: By Albert, there's no dispute. 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 8: By and large, you can play a much more difficult road, 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 8: like that's not even debatable. 58 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 6: That's like fact that. 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: The SEC so big now in the Big ten is two. 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: You really have to look at which teams they're planning, right, like, 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: look at which SEC teams they've played. 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 8: Okay, if you really want to go that route, all right, 63 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 8: let's just go ahead and talk about this. Which conference 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 8: has the most team most players draft in the NFL. 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: I'm not arguing the SEC. The SEC is deeper, there's 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 5: no question about that. I'm not arguing that at all. 67 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like the team specifically the teams that 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 5: Texas A and M has played like they they have 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: not they have played Alabama, have they they played? 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 7: But they will take play Texas. They played Miszoo this week. 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 8: They've already beaten LSU in bat Rouge, which is a 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 8: tough road test. And I would go as far as 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 8: saying this, they beat Notre Dame on Notre Dame, like 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 8: I would say this the Auburn's, Mississippi States in Florida's 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 8: those schools are better than the Rutgers, U C. L A, 76 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 8: whoever else you would have thrown there. Yeah, yeah, they 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 8: are well, I would take I think Florida would be Illinois. 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: Because though right, like so sure, but what are we play? 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 8: Like what do we No, I'm not m throw Pensta 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 8: into this, which like that's part of the issue is 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 8: down Ye, that's down year, right, That's part of the issue. 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 7: Is your Penn state. 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 8: Your Michigan brands are not as good as as some 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 8: of these other teams that are biding for a playoff spot. 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 8: Michigan's still in the hunt, but we'll see what happens 86 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 8: at the end of the year. 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: That's fair, I mean, like, but I would I would 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 5: agree with like everything you're saying if they. 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: Were playing like like I'll go home. 90 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: It's playing like a legitimately like murderous schedule. 91 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 7: I think right, like so like you forma Florida A 92 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 7: number of teams. 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: But yeah, there are a few of these schools. 94 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: Like, it's just these conferences have gotten so big now 95 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: that there are years where you have a little bit 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: of an easier path. It happens in both the Big 97 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: Ten and the SEC, right, And I just feel like 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 5: if you look at A and M schedule, it's like, yes, 99 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: the SEC is deeper, there's no question. I'm not I'm 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: not gonna be one of those like. 101 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: Big Ten guys who argues otherwise, it's not. It's just 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: it is where it is. 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 5: It's just like A and M has an easier pass 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: this year through the SEC than you might in another year. 105 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: I don't think that's debatable either, is it, Brady, Uh. 106 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 7: It's it's easier in comparison to other SEC schools. 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 6: I don't. 108 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 8: I wouldn't say that their schedule is easier than Ohio States, 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 8: for example, because they'll both play Texas. Texas is not 110 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 8: the team we thought they were. And by the way, 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 8: if you want to make the comparison to like Indiana's 112 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 8: strength the schedule, I realized their non conference was easy, 113 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 8: but you both played Illinois like they blew the crap 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 8: out of Illinois. Yeah, you played them in Champagne and 115 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 8: you still beat them. But the reality is like Indiana's 116 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 8: game or wins. 117 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 5: You watch that game, I mean, come on, you watch 118 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 5: that game, Like Illinois was never and we were in 119 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: like third gear in that game. You know, like I 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: don't know, like I just like look at this and 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: like I just I mean. 122 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: It's all be sad. 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 5: I mean it means. 124 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: Here's the other thing is this argument me is lost 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: than it ever has before. 126 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: Right, it used to actually matter like where it was 127 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: like it could mean getting in not getting in. So 128 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: it matters loss than it ever has before. 129 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 7: Sure, But the problem is the problem is is it 130 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 7: comes down to eye test. 131 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 8: Is really what you're saying then, as you're saying right now, 132 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 8: it's not what's on paper, it's what I think I see, 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 8: And I agree with you, like Ohio State looks to 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 8: be the best team statistically. 135 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 7: You could probably make some arguments. 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 8: I mean, Indiana again is a better point differential equally 137 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 8: as dominant. But and at the end of the day, 138 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 8: it doesn't really matter because they would both end up 139 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 8: getting buy its a different path. Like I look at 140 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 8: honestly look a Notre Dame of ten and I understand 141 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 8: what people have a gripe with it, Like if Miami 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 8: beats you, you can't have them eight spots behind them, 143 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 8: even though they just lost, and they feel like they're 144 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 8: on a downward, you know, trend, and they struggle in 145 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 8: November under crystabal. But like, I understand how people get 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 8: frustrated because if you're going to state a criteria, you 147 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 8: need to abide by that criteria. 148 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 7: And so you can't go into this offseason. 149 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 8: And say strength to schedule matters, Yeah, and then when 150 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 8: the first ranking comes out, you don't really make strength 151 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 8: of schedule look like it matters quite as much. That's 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 8: what's frustrating I think for a lot of fans. 153 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't. I don't think like I mean, 154 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: I don't and maybe I'm wrong about this. I don't 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: think the. 156 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: Strength of schedule like between Ohio. 157 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 5: State and text A and M at least, like I 158 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: think Indiana schedule is probably a little lighter, although they 159 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 5: did play Oregon in Eugene, right Like. 160 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: I think, like with Ohio State and text A and M, 161 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: I I think to this point and. 162 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 5: Maybe it'll change as you know, the year ago, like 163 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: you know, you get deeper. 164 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: Into the season. 165 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: Ohio State doesn't have a real test left until Michigan, 166 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: and you know, like and M I think as a 167 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: couple left right, Like, so this might look different like 168 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: at the end of the year. 169 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: But like as of right now, you know, you talk 170 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: about the. 171 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: Eye tests and everything else, and then you know the history. 172 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: And all that, and I don't know that there's just 173 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: like I think some people are. 174 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: Making it out to be like there's a huge gap 175 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: in the schedules, and I just don't think there is that. 176 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: Texas A and m schedule. 177 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: Might be a little tougher, Like I'm fine with that, 178 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 5: but like to act as if like they're going through 179 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: like the murders Row the SEC is not the case. 180 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: You know they've played. 181 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 7: Don't don't tell that to Bama fans. Don't tell that 182 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 7: to Bama fans. 183 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 8: And I also I also would add this, there's been 184 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 8: more parody and upsets I think this year than many others, 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 8: in which in regards to the AP poll, And I 186 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 8: think a lot of that has to do with the 187 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 8: fact that those games that you're referring to that feel 188 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 8: like layups, they're not anymore because you go out there 189 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 8: and you lay an egg or your team has an 190 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 8: off day, those average middle of the road teams are. 191 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 7: Now capable of pulling off the upset, right, So that's right. 192 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, And I sit there and looking at I go 193 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 8: look at look at some of these other like for example, 194 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 8: Texas barely being in Kentucky. It's like, dude, they won, 195 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 8: they won. Like at the end of the day, like 196 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 8: all that matters is winning and losing. And so again, 197 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 8: we don't need to waste too much time on this, 198 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 8: like Ohio State looks to be the best. Like, by 199 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 8: the way, do I feel like Notre Dame looks to 200 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 8: be better than Miami right now? 201 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? 202 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 8: I think if they played again, Notre Dame would beat Miami. 203 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 8: And we can go talk to odds makers and what 204 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 8: those betting lines would look like. But the truth of 205 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 8: the matter is like, at some point your own criteria 206 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 8: has to come into play. 207 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 5: I'm with you on that because I do think like 208 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: you know, this is one thing that was frustrating to 209 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: me about these arguments in the past, is like at 210 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: some point, winning the game has to matter, you know 211 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 5: what I mean? 212 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: Like, and like I think sometimes like we get. 213 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: Away from what happened a month ago, it's like, no, 214 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: those games count two. You know what I mean like that, 215 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 5: it's just because it happened in the September. 216 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean it doesn't count. Like so you know, like 217 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: I'm with you on that part of it. 218 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 7: Hey, by the way, Albert, how much more fun is 219 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 7: college to talk about that? NFL? 220 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 8: I know Jonas is going to transition right now to NFL, 221 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 8: but much more fun at college. 222 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 7: It is, just admit it, it's more fun. 223 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: Well, I get more, I get more emotional and fired 224 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: up and everything. 225 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, it is fun to talk about for sure. 226 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 6: Hm, go ahead, Jonas transit transition Jonas? Are you there? 227 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 6: Is Joan is there? Does Jonas? 228 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: Jonas? Did Jeffer himself? 229 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 6: I take it. I'll take no worry fine for Jonas. 230 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: You totally zoned out or did I don't know, we 231 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 6: don't know what I was. 232 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: I was about to and then you know, I'd gotten 233 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: cut off with no blinker, so I just figured okay, 234 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: I would just you. 235 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 6: Know, got cut with no blink. Yeah, three seconds. 236 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: That's not a fine. That's not a fine. You should 237 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: be fine. 238 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 6: That was rude. 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: I was getting ready to ask a question. 240 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 7: Jonas knocks being a weenie, I was. 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: I was getting ready to ask a question. 242 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: I got cut off the dead air bro We tried, 243 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 6: we we said, Jonas, go ahead. 244 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 7: You wanted to say nothing. 245 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 6: I mean I got cut off in traffic. I don't 246 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: have to tell you that's what it was. He's sitting 247 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 6: there talking instead of paying attention. God, go ahead, Jonas. 248 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: So Ab, how did we get here with the New 249 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: York Jets? 250 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's actually a really interesting story. 251 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: You know, like this goes back to. 252 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: The summer and kind of how they assessed, you know, 253 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 5: like their roster and I you know, I I know 254 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: when they when they science nots that deal. One of 255 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 5: the things that like the cat people were instructed to 256 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 5: do is like, like let's make sure. 257 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 4: This deal is tradable because you never know, like you 258 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: don't know. 259 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: What this is going to look like in three months 260 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: and four months, and so you just want to give 261 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: yourself the flexibility you know, you give you give the 262 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 5: player some wins in the deal, of course, but like 263 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 5: you want to give yourself a flexibility where if something happens, 264 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: you're going to be able to have the flexibility to move. 265 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: So that's really where it starts. And then you know, 266 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 5: I give the Jets credit, like because one thing that 267 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 5: I thought was really in that they've been doing over 268 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 5: the last month and a half is like they've had 269 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: a weekly meeting where they put trade values on every 270 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 5: one of their players. And it doesn't mean they're going to. 271 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: Trade their players, but like there's this like we have 272 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: to be ready for anything, right Like, and we know 273 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: we're going to get calls, and so we have to 274 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: like at least have an idea of what it would 275 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: take on. 276 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: Any player on our roster, so we're not caught flat 277 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 5: footed and we're not like hustling to figure out whether 278 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 5: or not we want to do something. And you know, 279 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 5: I think the Micah Parsons trade informed them on a 280 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 5: lot of this because on Sauce, when they were talking 281 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 5: about like what the trade value would be, the trade 282 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 5: value was what we would need a Micah Parsons type 283 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 5: of deal, And you look at it and like what 284 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: did it wind up being? It wind up it wound 285 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: up being a Micah Parsons type of return, right Like, 286 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 5: So I'm not comparing the two players, but if you 287 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 5: look at the. 288 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: Terms of the of the of the trade Dallas and 289 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: green Bay, it was it was. 290 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 5: It was too first round picks going from the Packers 291 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: to the Cowboys with a quality player and Kenny Clark 292 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 5: and so in this case, same sort of thing, you know, 293 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 5: like two players and equality to two first round picks 294 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: and a quality player going from Indianapolis to the Jets. 295 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: And then like I think that kind of loosened them 296 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: up a little bit on Quinton Williams, where. 297 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 5: Once the Sauce deal happens and goes down, it jarred 298 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 5: things loose a little bit and it was like, okay, 299 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 5: like is there another deal out there to be done? 300 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: You know, and the Cowboys call, and the Cowboys were 301 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: had had had had that discussion with with with with 302 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: the Jets about Quinn Williams going back to the summer 303 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: when they'd inquired on Michael Parsons, and so, uh, that 304 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: deal gets done too, I think as much as anything else, guys, it's. 305 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 4: Like an acknowledgment of where they are and that you know, 306 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: they aren't. 307 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: As close as they thought they'd be based on the 308 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 5: talent that was on hand, and so like now you know, 309 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 5: you still maintain a core and you still have Gerret 310 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 5: Wilson and all of Tashanu and armand Membu and Jermaine Johnson, 311 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 5: and well McDonald and a bunch of good young players. 312 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 5: But this gives you some flexibility to keep building the team. 313 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: And I think the big thing, of course, is this 314 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 5: gives you the capitol to get a quarterback at some 315 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: point over the next year or two. 316 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 6: That's got to be what it is that that they're 317 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 6: trying to do is position to get a quarterback, right, 318 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 6: I mean, if you're going to if you're going to 319 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: use draft picks, you're going to use them on trying 320 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 6: to find a cornerback as well. You're going to try 321 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 6: to use it on trying to find a dominant interior 322 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: lineman or a pass rusher that can get to the quarterback. 323 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 6: Or you're going to use it trying to get a 324 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 6: receiver that can break games open for you and give 325 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 6: your your quarterback a weapon. I just don't I mean, 326 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 6: can we get is there any clarity on like is 327 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 6: it just that the getting a quarterback outweighs the talent 328 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 6: that you have in Quinn and in Sauce, Like I 329 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 6: know p people say Sauce down been as good in 330 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 6: recent recent games, but that's still an elite guy at 331 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 6: the position. Sure you're going to just go draft another 332 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: guy why why those two? Is it strictly because the 333 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: draft capital. 334 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: I mean, well it was those two because those two 335 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: are you know, who they got calls on and who 336 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: would bring home the biggest return. 337 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: You know. Now, I don't think Garrett. 338 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 5: Wilson was as available, and I think part of that 339 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: does relate back to whenever we do get a quarterback here, 340 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: we want to have like an infrastructure around him. On offense, 341 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: they have the two tackles, they have a number one receiver. 342 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: They bring in Ady Mitchell. We'll see what he becomes. 343 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: There, you know. But they did tell the Colts. 344 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 5: At the beginning of this, and this was really three 345 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: weeks in the making. I would say they did tell 346 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: the Colts at the beginning of this, like anybody on 347 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 5: their defense is available. 348 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: Now, that doesn't mean they're. 349 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 5: Looking to trade everybody, but just make us an offer, 350 00:15:59,680 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: you know. 351 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm always an advocated that like LeVar, 352 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: because like you just never. 353 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: Know what someone's gonna what someone's going to offer you, 354 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 5: you know, and it's it's not as long as like 355 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: you're not like the stuff isn't becoming public. It can 356 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: be good to at least have those conversations because you're 357 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 5: starting to think bigger picture about your roster, and I 358 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: think that's where the Jets wanted to be here. So 359 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: I think really the availability of Sauce and Quinnon had 360 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 5: to do with their value and the fact that they 361 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 5: could bring a lot back teams willingness to meet that value, 362 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 5: and then you. 363 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: Know the side of the ball that they played on. 364 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 8: Mm oho you, Albert, I want to ask you about 365 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 8: the Colts. They feel like clearly Daniel Jones their guy 366 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 8: for the future with the moves they've made. 367 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair, Brady. 368 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: I know they're they're over the moon with what they've 369 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: gotten from him so far, and you know, we'll see, 370 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: like but that what what what? What a new deal 371 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 5: looks like. I'd like to be Daniel Jones's agent right 372 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: now because I think he's got I think Brian Murphy 373 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: at athletes First has a lot of leverage right help 374 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: that way, I think it's you. You look at where 375 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 5: they're at and you know, if you are going to 376 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: address the quarterback in a way other than bringing Daniel 377 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: Jones back, you would probably be using first round picks, 378 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: whether it's the draft, a college player or trade for 379 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: a quarterback. To get that quarterback. So now you know 380 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 5: they've essentially been trading for Sauce Gardner, eliminated a lot 381 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 5: of their ability to go find a quarterback in the 382 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 5: off season, you know, So that points Daniel Jones is 383 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: a really good negotiating position where I think, you know, 384 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: he knows he's their guy going forward, you know, And 385 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 5: if I'm them, I would actually explore doing it now, 386 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 5: you know, rather than waiting to le the off season. 387 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: Now we'll see he can force them to tag him, 388 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: and you know, then you go through that whole song 389 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: and dance, and you know it's going to probably cast 390 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 5: forty fifty million dollars a year to keep them there, 391 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: you know. 392 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: But but yeah, I'd say because this eliminates, you know, 393 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: the other. 394 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: Path that the Colts would have to solve the quarterback position. 395 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: You know, I'd say, there's there's no question that this 396 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 5: is a signal that Daniel Jones is going to be 397 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 5: a quarterback next year and probably going forward. 398 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 6: Albert rat for Kyler Murray. I'm sorry, what's that is it? 399 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: Is it a rat for Kyler Murray? 400 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: No? 401 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would Yeah, I think at the very least 402 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 5: of our the Cardinals are going to explore other options 403 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 5: after the year. Now, Like it's interesting, like the contract 404 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: sets up, so I think he's got about thirty seven 405 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 5: million dollars guaranteed for next year. 406 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: So it's sort of similar to Tua in that, Like, 407 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: you know, Tua the same. 408 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 5: Way has like a lot of guaranteed money in twenty 409 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 5: six and then and then and then you know, the 410 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: team whoever holds the contract can get out of it 411 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: after that. So like for me with Kyler, it's. 412 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: Like, you know, I look at to it and I say, 413 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: like if a new coach is coming. 414 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: In there, a new coach can sell it as like 415 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: all right, like two is our bridge quarterback you know who. 416 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: Is gonna be our quarterback in twenty six. 417 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 5: That will give us a little bit of flexibility. We 418 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 5: can either draft one and keep them behind to it 419 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 5: this year, we can wait till next year. But at 420 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: the very least we can get a good level of 421 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 5: play out of Tua. With Kyler, it's a little trickier 422 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 5: because you know, you're not going to have a new 423 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: regime coming in there. I don't think and so and 424 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: you've had now Jacoby Brissette going in there, and I 425 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 5: don't know about you guys, but watching them, it looks 426 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 5: to me like Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison and some 427 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: of the talent they have on hand there. It's starting 428 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: to come alive with Jacoby at quarterback, you know, So. 429 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: How do you handle that going forward? 430 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 5: Can you go back to Kyler after this? I don't 431 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 5: think that's the plan right now. We'll see how Jacoby 432 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: continues to play, and then how do you handle it 433 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: after the year. Do you walk away? Do you try 434 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: to trade him? Is there somebody out there who wanting 435 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: to take him on as like a Sam Darnold Baker 436 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 5: Mayfield reclamation project. I think there's going to be a 437 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: lot of like those questions asked when we get to 438 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: February and March, and it wouldn't surprise me in the 439 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 5: least if the Cardinals are going in a different direction 440 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: at the position. 441 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Zach 442 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Taylor in Cincy. I know that, you know, defensively, you know, 443 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: he's the offensive guy, but he's also the head coach, 444 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: and so anything on that team that looks, you know, 445 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: a little suspect, he's going to be the one that's 446 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: held accountable for it, and so Chase Brown calling out 447 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: the defense. You know, I know, Joe Burrow's been injured, 448 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: but you know, it's been a couple of years since 449 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: they've made the playoffs, They've gotten off to these slow starts. 450 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: They tried a different approach this year. What's his future 451 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: look like? Because I would imagine if that job opens 452 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: up to be able to coach Joe Burrow immediately has 453 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: got to be the top job of the market. 454 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 4: Right Well, I mean let's start here. 455 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 5: I mean generally my experience. I don't know, the guys 456 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 5: can can can speak to this tribe better than me, 457 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: but I generally think like when something like this becomes 458 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: public is probably way worse behind the scenes. You know, 459 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: and we've seen this before where you've got the you 460 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 5: have the kind of divide between offense and defense when 461 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 5: one side is out performing the other, and that's certainly 462 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: the case here. You know, where the offense is doing 463 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 5: everything it can to save the Bengals season and doing 464 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: it without the quarterback, you know, and then you hear 465 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: about things like, you know, defensive players forcing around in 466 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: the locker room after after what happened on Sunday with 467 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 5: the with the Bears, so, you know, certainly I think 468 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 5: that like there's a question of like how one side fits. 469 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: With the other right now, and the job Al Golden's doing. 470 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: And replacing Uliant Romo and Loulian Arumo obviously is acquitting 471 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: himself pretty well in Indianapolis. Now, So are you going 472 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 5: to another coordinator change? I have a hard time seeing 473 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 5: them walk away through Zach Taylor after everything that Zach's 474 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 5: accomplished there over the last you know, five years and 475 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 5: going back to back AFC title games and making it 476 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 5: work through you know, Burrow being injured. But but I 477 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 5: but I certainly think like there's there's got to be 478 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: a look after you know, you spend all that money 479 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: on offense, and you know you've done so much to 480 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 5: to to try to make sure that you're you're stable 481 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: long term on that side of the ball. You know, 482 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 5: it's it's one of those questions where you look at 483 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 5: it and said, you have to take the defense down 484 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 5: to the studs now and almost start over. 485 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 6: Jeez. 486 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: Uh well, ab uh, it's that time. 487 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: It's time to uh to go ahead and get your 488 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: thoughts here as we get ready for the big weekend 489 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: in the world of the NFL run West off the Yeah, 490 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, well, look it's you know, I mean, these 491 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: are these are big games, big games involving everybody including 492 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: so ab Uh do you feel that at the end 493 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: of this weekend's game against Purdue that Ohio State will 494 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: have won by more than twenty nine and a half points? 495 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's say you because I haven't taken him to 496 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 5: cover the last few weeks, right like and then they did. 497 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 5: I think, so I'll take them to cover this week. 498 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 6: How about that? Okay? 499 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: Or I'll take them to Sorry, I shouldn't use that. 500 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: That uh that that that phrasing. 501 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: I will take them to I will I expect them 502 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: to win the game by more than. 503 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: Twenty Now are they going to be out of third 504 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: gear to run up the score and be able to 505 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: kind of prove me? 506 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: You never know, we're take it into fifth gear, you 507 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean? LeVar might have an idea of 508 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 5: what fifth gear looks like last week. 509 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 6: No, wow, I should have got a targeting call. 510 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 4: I know that that's where you're going with referees. 511 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 6: Those referees were based you're. 512 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: Going wait, wait, wait, that's where you're going. Referees. 513 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 6: Those referees they they were getting they were bailing y'all out. 514 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: You know, I talk what it was. 515 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: We're gonna go with LeVar targeting calling the fourth quarter 516 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 5: when you were down by twenty. 517 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: It wasn't called. They didn't, he didn't get suspended. It 518 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 6: wasn't targeting. It's it's ridiculous, but. 519 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 7: Oars defense Dean Dean did say that that should have 520 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 7: been targeting. 521 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 6: It should have been talking. 522 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: I mean, did you see Caleb looked like looked like. 523 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 6: He couldn't believe it. He couldn't believe he was ready 524 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 6: to go in. He knew what he did. You see 525 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: what I did right there. Guys, though, you got to 526 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 6: you got to shift the attention to something else. Man, 527 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: I don't want to hear about all his gloating. 528 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just glad I won't call it cost 529 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: Caleb the first half and that big massive against Purdue. 530 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's so disappointing that we've been 531 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: doing this show for so long and I. 532 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: Think this season, like half your schedule has got a 533 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 7: winning record. 534 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yet to yet to come on here after an 535 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 6: Ohio State game with a win against Ohio State, That's 536 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: that's ridiculous. Ready to represent I'm just ready to like 537 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: be a sore sore winner with Albert Breer on the line, 538 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 6: and it just won't happen. I just can't do it. 539 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I we ab. We always order what I got 540 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: going on, always appreciate it. We'll do it again next week. 541 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: There he is there, Alber Breer with us here on 542 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: Fox Radio, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the 543 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: MMQB at Albert Breer on X he came not. 544 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 6: Today, he did come here today. 545 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 8: Maybe you know what, Maybe he's getting disturbed during his sleep. 546 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 8: And if you want undisturbed sleep, you need to go 547 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 8: to mattress firm. Let them match you with a temper 548 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 8: petic shot. 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The crown is 581 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: yours coming up here in a little over twelve minutes 582 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: from now, we are going to have another edition of 583 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the Leftovers as we close up shop here on this 584 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: Thursday morning. Speaking to DraftKings, the current line for the 585 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: Thursday night game coming up later on tonight sees the 586 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: Broncos at a nine and a half point favorite against 587 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. The Awful Raiders in Denver to 588 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: take on the Broncos Raiders, and then the international game 589 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: this week features the Atlanta Falcons and the Indianapolis Colts. 590 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: That'll be from Berlin, Germany. 591 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: All right, so that'll be a nine to thirty am 592 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: Eastern time kickoff six thirty am out here on the 593 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: West Coast, but it'll be Falcons Colts, And right now 594 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: on DraftKings, Indianapolis is a six and a half point favorite. 595 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: And Albert Breer was talking about this that they really 596 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: like what they've seen from Daniel Jones, which is why 597 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: they got so aggressive with the Sauce Gardner trade and 598 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: giving up the two first round picks, et cetera, et cetera. 599 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys believe that with Daniel Jones at quarterback, 600 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: that with all the moves they've made and how they've 601 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: looked that they are a legitimate threat in the AFC, 602 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: because I'm a little skeptical based on what the hell 603 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: was that that we just saw this weekend in Pittsburgh, 604 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: because the Steeler defenses never looked like that, and that 605 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: looked like the old Daniel Jones in New York. 606 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 8: I think there's two teams who are mirror images of 607 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 8: one another, and one is the Seahawks and the NFC. 608 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 8: The other ones the Colts, where you know, both teams 609 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 8: made moves that gave you a sense of, hey, they 610 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 8: they believe the guy they've got there is their quarterback, 611 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 8: not just for this year but for the foreseeable future. 612 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 8: Shaheed obviously adds to Jackson Smith and Jigba and Tony Horton, 613 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 8: so they've got the downfield passing. And then you look 614 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 8: at the Colts adding sauce guard and what they give 615 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 8: up to get them. It gives you a sense of 616 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 8: how serious they feel like their chances are not just 617 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 8: in the division, but really making a run once they 618 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 8: get in the conference. And I do feel like the 619 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 8: different for me with this team is is they're pretty 620 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 8: darn complete. I mean, if you look at their old 621 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 8: line when healthy, they're one of the best groups in 622 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 8: the NFL. They've got arguably the best running back or 623 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 8: one of the best running backs in the NFL. You know, 624 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 8: they have all these complimentary pieces. They've got a young, 625 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 8: budding we are Penn State tight end who's phenomenal. That 626 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 8: helps open things up for guys in the outside too. 627 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 8: Josh Downs is a third down move, the sticks machine. 628 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 8: Pierce can make big plays when he's healthy out on 629 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 8: the outside. You know, that's not to mention Pittman too. Like, 630 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 8: They've got a lot of pieces, and then you add 631 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 8: in Jones and as long as he takes care of 632 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 8: the football and then his athletic ability to use his 633 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 8: legs from time to time, it's a dangerous combination with 634 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 8: Shane Steichen's. 635 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 7: Play calling ability. 636 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 8: I mean, this is a really, really good team. Lou 637 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 8: Ana Arumo has brought a different perspective on the defense 638 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 8: and the way he's got about making things complicated for offenses, 639 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 8: putting guys in positions to get sacks, to get pressure. 640 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 8: And they've got those you know, that front and some 641 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 8: young talented guys lotsu lotsu is you know, emerging I 642 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 8: just I look at this group and I say, they 643 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 8: could be that surprise team in the AFC. Seattle is 644 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 8: that other one that's maybe ahead of schedule than many 645 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 8: we thought. Many people thought, uh, And they're very similar 646 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 8: because I don't feel like there's a strong belief in 647 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 8: either one keeping this thing together for the rest of 648 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 8: the season, or maybe it's just when they get in, 649 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 8: when they get into the playoffs, being able to make 650 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 8: a run. But I think with what you see on film, 651 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 8: they're both very, very capable of it. I think the 652 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 8: questions are surrounding around the quarterbacks because we've got enough 653 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 8: of a book on them to say, yeah, but we've 654 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 8: seen the floor and if those guys play at their floor, 655 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 8: they're not going to beat anyone that's one of the 656 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 8: top teams in their conference. So I mean, loo again, 657 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 8: their ceiling is as high as anyone. Like I think 658 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 8: they can go toe to toe on their best day 659 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 8: with any of the top quarterbacks. And people can say 660 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 8: whatever they want to argue that, but you're dead wrong 661 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 8: because we always misunderstand what the margins of difference are 662 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 8: between athletes. At the NFL level, the margins are difference 663 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 8: are not their ceiling. The margins of difference are their floor, 664 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 8: and what ends up happening is you get guys who 665 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 8: end up playing and you know one guy who's you know, 666 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 8: one of the best, whether it's Mahomes, Josh Allen, whoever else, 667 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 8: their floor is much higher than most, like their worst 668 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 8: day still beats ninety percent of the NFL. 669 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: And that's, to me, is the difference. 670 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 8: You know, Whereas if Daniel Jones continued to keep raising 671 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 8: his floor of his level of play, and we don't 672 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 8: see that Pittsburgh game resurface, and Sam Darnold continues to 673 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 8: keep playing at the level he is and we don't 674 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 8: see him revert back to whether it's the Jets or 675 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 8: whatever else you want to talk about, even Carolina, even 676 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 8: those tough situation, you know, whatever you want to point to. 677 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 8: If they keep raising their floor, I think both of 678 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 8: them are going to be extremely competitive this year and 679 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 8: being contention once again the playoffs. 680 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 6: I think they're solid in the South just because the 681 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: question marks surrounding all of those teams. I mean, Stroud 682 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 6: will be out for the Texans. The Jaguars are, you know, 683 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 6: kind of I don't know, They're up and down with 684 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 6: how they do things. I mean, they're in a better 685 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 6: direction what they have been in, but they're they're kind of, 686 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 6: you know, I don't know what they are. And the 687 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 6: Titans stink. So I think within the South, the Colts 688 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: are fine. Now once you get outside of the South 689 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: and you start looking at the rest of the AFC, 690 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: and they can they keep up with the rest of 691 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 6: the AFC, you know, some of the top teams. I mean, 692 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 6: the Patriots are on top of the Bills right now. 693 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 6: I don't necessarily think the Patriots, in fact, I know, 694 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 6: I don't think the Patriots are a better team than 695 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 6: the Bills. But they're a top. They're a top. They're they're, 696 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 6: you know, part of the AFC there in the East. 697 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 6: You look at the AFC North. They just lost to 698 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 6: the Steelers. They're on top of the AFC North. Are 699 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: the Steelers a super impressive team. No, there's a lot 700 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 6: of question marks surrounding them. The Ravens have to climb 701 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 6: and dig out of a hole. There's a lot of 702 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 6: question marks about them. We don't even need to go 703 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 6: down the rest of them. I mean, we could say 704 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 6: the Bengals, I mean, they could end up being a factor, 705 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: but they got a hole they got to climb out 706 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 6: out of, too. And then once you go out to 707 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 6: the west, you have the Broncos ahead of the Chargers 708 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: and you got the Chiefs in third. So it's kind 709 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: of like when you look at the AFC, they're in 710 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 6: a perfect position even with question marks, they're in a 711 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 6: perfect position to actually be competitive, being positioned by seasons 712 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 6: in heading into the playoffs, to be competitive the rest 713 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 6: of the season and be competitive in the playoffs. But 714 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: I do think that there are question marks surrounding this team. 715 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 6: I do believe that you can you can look at 716 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 6: that that in reference that Steelers game and say, if 717 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 6: a team can shut down which I believe was the 718 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 6: book on Daniel Jones in New York, if you can 719 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 6: shut down the running game, then you limit that, you 720 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 6: limit what Daniel Jones is able to do, and it 721 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 6: gives you an opportunity to win the game. And we're 722 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 6: going to see can you stop enough of of of Taylor? 723 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 6: Taylor's the back right, Well, I'm blanking on the back. Yeah, 724 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 6: what's his name? What's his name? 725 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor? 726 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor. 727 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: He rotates with Joseph and I believe, thank you, thank you. 728 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: He what Joseph and I what about him? 729 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's being passive aggressive. 730 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, because. 731 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm not paying that. I won't pay that fine. 732 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 6: You will pay it. You like thirty dollars from this. 733 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Show, Joseph, Joseph ade reference gets me ten dollars. 734 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 6: That's the second time it was. I'll be the judge 735 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 6: on this, bro who Yeah, move on, move on. 736 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: Okay, nothing to see here. 737 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 6: He's just going to self appoint himself as the judge, 738 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 6: all right, So at any rate, I'm going to keep 739 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 6: the track of this dang all right, Okay, I think 740 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 6: the Colts are in as in good a position as 741 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 6: any team in the AFC to be a threat. That's 742 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 6: That's what the conclusion has to be. There's no other 743 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 6: team that you can sit there and say, by record 744 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 6: or by whatever it is they have, you know, their 745 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 6: their their team depth, their their depth chart. There's nothing 746 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 6: you could say that says you have separated yourself from 747 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 6: what the Colts are and and so to me, of 748 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 6: course they're a threat, even with question marks. 749 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Whether there's a there's a world in which I'll be 750 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: the judge here, there's a move on, there's a world 751 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: in which move on, in which Buffalo, Kansas City, and 752 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: Baltimore are the wild card spots in the AFC, Like 753 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: they would. 754 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 6: Be your five to getting them in the first round. 755 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 6: Yeah no, thanks, So I had the problems in the 756 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 6: first round. 757 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: Imagine yeah, imagine those guys coming into town with all 758 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: that experience taking on whoever they would get in the 759 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: first round. Like there would be a lot of lower 760 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: seeds making runs in the AFC. 761 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 6: Do you and I don't. 762 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 8: I don't know this matchup's quite the same, but it 763 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 8: reminds me a little of the Tennessee Titans team that 764 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 8: with Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry. You know, there's a 765 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 8: little bit of those vibes where you know, Tannehill played 766 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 8: great in the regular season that he struggled in the 767 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 8: in the postseason, but they were led by their rushing attack. 768 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 7: You know, they played you know, kind of you know. 769 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 8: Physical, you know, tough style of defense, and and then 770 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 8: you know they made enough plays in the passing game. 771 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 7: And I feel like that's kind of where, ironically. 772 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 8: Like this Colts team is. They're almost like one of 773 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 8: those Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans seed. Did you kind of 774 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 8: see it that way? Where they could make a run 775 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 8: to the ENC Championship. I just don't know in the 776 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 8: end if they're going to be able to beat you know, 777 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 8: whoever that is, whether it's Kansas City or Buffalo, whoever's 778 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 8: going to be there at the end of the. 779 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: Year, especially if you consider that Tennessee team had to 780 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: do it on the road because they beat New England 781 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: that was Tom Brady's final game with the Patriots, and 782 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: then they beat Baltimore. Remember Baltimore had that bye week, 783 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: and they went in there and smacked Baltimore and then 784 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: they ended up losing the AFC title game. Yeah, it 785 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: does in Indianapolis. If they were to continue on the 786 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: way they're going, they wouldn't have to go on the road, 787 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: like they would be hosting majority, if not all, of 788 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: these games in India, especially if they get the one seed. 789 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: So it's just crazy to think. 790 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: That that's where that's where we're at, that another former 791 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Giant could be leading his team. 792 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 6: You don't get to say if it's crazy, I'm the 793 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 6: judge of it. 794 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 5: If it's. 795 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 7: Thank you, don't make me get again. Don't make me 796 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 7: get my GA again. 797 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: By the way, mckea tools at the home depot up 798 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: with precision without shortcuts. Designed for the toughest jobs. It's 799 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: the choice for pros when the job calls for the best. 800 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: Call on Makida bill to be the best available at 801 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: the home debo help pros get more done up. 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What do we got? 823 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 10: Oooh my goodness, I was really shocked to see these 824 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 10: leftovers in the fridge. Today of Cowboys fan was recorded 825 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 10: pouring ashes from a ziplock bag onto the. 826 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 3: Cowboys star outside of the stadium. 827 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 10: I want to know, fellas, what do you think is 828 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 10: more shocking spreading the ashes there or keeping your loved 829 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 10: ones in a. 830 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 3: Ziplock so you didn't even get it inside the stadium. No, 831 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 3: it's outside. 832 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 10: I'm in the grass outside. 833 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, it's. 834 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: A little odd, I mean, and also, yeah, the ziplock 835 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: bag is also probably not the greatest move in the world. 836 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 6: I mean, was it in the person's wheel to be 837 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 6: in a ziplock bag and to be poured spread out 838 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 6: over a star? If that's what it was, then God 839 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 6: bless They're all deserving of one another. In that family, 840 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 6: I wonder what their family name is. I wonder what 841 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 6: they do on their spare time. I just you know, 842 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 6: I have questions. 843 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not getting cremated and tell you that right 844 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: now happen. 845 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm okay with that part of it, but the 846 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 6: whole what happens next part is what I have questions about. 847 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: But because let's be honest, I mean, how do you 848 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: know it's actually them, you know what I mean? Like 849 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: they could have just, you know, hey, where'd you put 850 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: where'd you put? Ron? 851 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 6: I don't know why fake it? 852 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: Go grab something from the ashtray outside, Like what are 853 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: you gonna do? You're not gonna know the difference. 854 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I could see if it was Q and 855 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 6: they wanted to do a Bible hit, you know what 856 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 6: I mean, it was like all right, right, but they 857 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 6: got a real Brady Quinn Bible hit