WEBVTT - I’m Back, Baby!

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, we welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today

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<v Speaker 2>we welcome Ben back from his paternity leave. Wasn't long enough, right, Ben, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, it fell not long enough for me.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when I look back on all the great

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<v Speaker 4>content that you put out here and that you had

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<v Speaker 4>your guest host help this is a mad then it

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<v Speaker 4>does feel like a long time. A lot happened. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I watched The Bachelor this week and realized the

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<v Speaker 4>last time I did a Bachelor breakdown with you on

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<v Speaker 4>the Almost Famous Podcast, I think was like week two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was like twenty girls left, and now we're

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<v Speaker 2>at hometowns. You missed like the whole boring chunk of

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<v Speaker 2>the middle that you and I always try to get through,

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<v Speaker 2>and you joined us in the episode that I always

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it rams up, which is the one in

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<v Speaker 2>which we eliminate the girls down to the hometown girls.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, You're right. I stuck in at the right moment.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that's we did this on purpose nine months ago,

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<v Speaker 4>that we'd say let's have baby at the perfect time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little side comment about birthing times. I

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<v Speaker 2>have now had a baby in the summer and a

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<v Speaker 2>baby in the winter July and January. And if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to choose, I do like the baby being born

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<v Speaker 2>in the winter better because it's so much harder to

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<v Speaker 2>with like well, especially with two, have the bundling, the

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<v Speaker 2>transferring from the house to the car and the car

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<v Speaker 2>to like the store and all that when you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have them bundled up in the car seat. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so ridiculous. I think you will soon understand what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. All I'm saying is that with the

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<v Speaker 2>newborn phase, it's a cocoon phase, right, So like all

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing with that baby is sitting in the house

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<v Speaker 2>and being cozy, and that's a winter thing.

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<v Speaker 4>We have started family walks, so three days ago we

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<v Speaker 4>started to do walks around the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>It will be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something that we were doing fairly consistently now. It's

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<v Speaker 4>fun for Jess, it's fun for our dog, it's fun

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<v Speaker 4>for Winny. But yes, I agree, we've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was nice the week that when he was born,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like five degrees in Colorados. We just stayed

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<v Speaker 4>inside and had nothing else to do. It was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>It's weird after like, what are we about? Two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>into parenthood? Now we kind of feel like we're in

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<v Speaker 4>the groove, right, let's get her outside. Just just went

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<v Speaker 4>to the grocery store for the first time today, very

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<v Speaker 4>nerve wracking experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she did, but the first time buy her with

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<v Speaker 2>the baby? No, okay, just by yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're ripping the band aids off of the like

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<v Speaker 4>new parent freak out mode, and we're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 4>out slowly but surely not too fast, how to get

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<v Speaker 4>into life, uh, and how to keep things going. It's

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<v Speaker 4>been a blast. I'm loving every second of it. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you know what I found out, and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how you do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ashley.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, this week was me catching up with The Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 4>going back through some episodes, going back through some notes,

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<v Speaker 4>making sure I was up to speed on everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Even with a newborn.

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<v Speaker 5>Finding some time to sit down and watch The Bachelor

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<v Speaker 5>is not as easy as you would think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because when you have like your little time,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, what am I going to watch? It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, that's what I have. The Bachelor episode and

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<v Speaker 2>I have to like study it. Yeah, so, and you

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<v Speaker 2>need to full attention for the hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Bravo to also Jess for taking walks at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>because like, yeah, she's a she got torn apart a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and she's back at it. She's she's an

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<v Speaker 2>athletic girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's got drive.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, we are here to talk about The Bachelor today,

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<v Speaker 4>though this is obviously the week leading into hometowns. When

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<v Speaker 4>I caught up some episodes, you did have some of

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<v Speaker 4>these disagreements. You told me just a second ago that

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<v Speaker 4>this season you thought was kind of the boring parts

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle. I know that when you and I talked,

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<v Speaker 4>this wasn't a season that you were ecstatic about, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of maybe two weeks ago, but you did have Zachary

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<v Speaker 4>Reality as a co host and a guest. They disagreed

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<v Speaker 4>with you that this season actually has been really good

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<v Speaker 4>and has been something.

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<v Speaker 3>To engage within.

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<v Speaker 4>Has your opinion changed at all after this last episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not as a whole, because like I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>those few episodes the past couple weeks were so draggy

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<v Speaker 2>that like that like doesn't compare to any prior season.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never felt such a drag before, and now that

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<v Speaker 2>we're on this episode. I'm like, Okay, now we're like

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<v Speaker 2>a back on track to feeling like sit in the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not like the most exhilarating thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like other seasons past are, but like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cannot wait till next week. I have to get my screener,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like is it Friday yet? Is in my

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<v Speaker 2>back in bucks? I'm not gonna feel like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like at least like engaged while watching the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>This was Yeah, so this was my favorite episode thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has nothing to do with Grant. Like Grant

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<v Speaker 2>like every week proves that he's like so incredibly sweet

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<v Speaker 2>and he seems like he's gonna be the greatest husband.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just something about this season that just like hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>collicked with me, and I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but I don't think it was it's Grant.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have to do a storytelling, It just might

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<v Speaker 2>be a combination of things. But like I just if

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<v Speaker 2>he's out there listening, like I think he is such

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<v Speaker 2>a kind man and he seems to have just the

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<v Speaker 2>sweetest heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that you kind of took that away with some

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<v Speaker 2>of his conversations this week too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think my read on Grant I've

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<v Speaker 4>been able to share it in a while is I

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<v Speaker 4>think you said everything.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind, he has a sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think conflict is maybe an uncomfortable position for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes as the lead of the show Bachelor or

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<v Speaker 4>a bachelor, most of like a lot of the role

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<v Speaker 4>is navigating conflict and kind of being the mediator amongst

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<v Speaker 4>the house and amongst your relationships. And it does feel

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<v Speaker 4>like he kind of wants to take the nice route

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<v Speaker 4>out of that and just tell people how great they

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<v Speaker 4>are and that everything's fine, when I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>that's helping. I also don't know if it's helping build

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<v Speaker 4>deeper relationships. However, there has been some conversations, especially this episode,

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<v Speaker 4>that I think we did get the rawness of Grant,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that shines. I want to start, though,

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<v Speaker 4>breaking down this episode with asking our producer to pull

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<v Speaker 4>up because now we're down to the final four, to

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<v Speaker 4>pull up Ashley myself, our final four. When we broke

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<v Speaker 4>down the women at the very beginning, We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about that at the end, kind of revisit who

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<v Speaker 4>we thought would be here.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we didn't do good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll start out Ashley my first out of this episode,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's hilarious. We see a scene with Jesse and

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<v Speaker 4>Grant golfing in Scotland, a dream for many golfers. Grant

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<v Speaker 4>swing is not terrible, but goodness gracious, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>it reminds me of. It reminds me of those Disney

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<v Speaker 4>movies when they used to like play basketball, and you

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<v Speaker 4>would watch it because you're a basketball player yourself, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>be super excited for it. And then you're watching, You're like,

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<v Speaker 4>these people have never shot a basketball in their life. No,

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<v Speaker 4>Grant isn't to that level.

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<v Speaker 3>He does.

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<v Speaker 4>He is able to make contact, but you can tell

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<v Speaker 4>this dude has not golf many times and they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to make it look like he has. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 4>dude is what we call in the golf world like

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<v Speaker 4>he's raw dog in it. He has no gloves on,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's like he has no golfing glove on. He

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<v Speaker 4>has a very nice, wide, unbalanced swing. He swings out

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<v Speaker 4>of his shoes. You can see it. His short game

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<v Speaker 4>is is questionable, and I love that that's what they

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<v Speaker 4>chose for him to do because I bet they gave him.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, tomorrow you're gonna go golf with Jesse and

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<v Speaker 4>he's like, I've got five times in my life, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I goold, it's gonna look awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that they like really did much then

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<v Speaker 2>just hit one ball?

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<v Speaker 3>They played one hole.

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<v Speaker 4>It rained the whole time, and they weren't that well

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of it, and then they're like, great round.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess I just don't like when they do

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<v Speaker 2>a scene like that with Jesse from your Bachelor experience,

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<v Speaker 2>do you actually play a whole game?

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<v Speaker 3>No, goodness, no, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 5>The show's like, hey, you know what, Jesse and Grant

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<v Speaker 5>take three and a half hours and go play.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, okay, go enjoy yourself. We're just gonna feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a scene, Cetter. It was. It's wild. It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed watching it because I was like, poor Grant

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<v Speaker 4>obviously doesn't play this game and Jesse does. Jesse's a

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<v Speaker 4>good golfer, he has a good swing, he's a lefty,

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<v Speaker 4>he's just.

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<v Speaker 2>A well I was gonna say he's just an athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>but actually so it was grand so professionally both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys go to Scotland on your season with

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<v Speaker 2>Kid Ireland? Ireland? Okay, it's just Ireland. I wasn't stributed

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<v Speaker 2>to Ireland in Scotland.

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<v Speaker 3>No, just Ireland.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that was my big takeaway at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>this episode because as a golfer, I just thought it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>We can move on from that conversation because not anybody listening.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not one person that was like interested in what

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<v Speaker 4>I just talked about. So let's start breaking down the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>And obviously the date cards this week are very meaningful

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<v Speaker 4>because we still have some people who have not had

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<v Speaker 4>a one on one date, which means if they don't

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<v Speaker 4>get a one on one date this week, they really

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<v Speaker 4>won't have a one on one date for the whole season.

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<v Speaker 4>Because yes, the final three all get one on one dates,

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<v Speaker 4>but those are not they're meaningful, maybe more meaningful than

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<v Speaker 4>but they're not actual one on ones. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just the format of the show. You know you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to get a date if you're down to the final three.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the last time Grant can show Zoe, specifically

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<v Speaker 4>that he cares to have some time with her by

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<v Speaker 4>giving her a one on one and what happens Ashley,

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<v Speaker 4>she does not get one. But Juliana also didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>a one on one yet either.

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<v Speaker 2>And technically Letia had a one on one of sorts

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<v Speaker 2>because you miss this week, but she had a three

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<v Speaker 2>on one date and then he took her on the

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<v Speaker 2>dinner portion, so I think they had on one on

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<v Speaker 2>one date. They had that intimacy, but this was her

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<v Speaker 2>like first full day date. Juliana getting the date was

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<v Speaker 2>not shocking to me.

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<v Speaker 4>That why this season has there been so many people

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<v Speaker 4>not have one on ones? Is the season cuts shorter?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a good question because this is weird. There's

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<v Speaker 3>always one.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't dump anybody on a date either. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>dumb any one on a one on one.

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<v Speaker 4>If if you go back through past seasons, if the

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<v Speaker 4>format of the show works, and if the lead agrees

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<v Speaker 4>to it, and I said I've said this before, when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes down to deciding who's going on one on one,

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<v Speaker 4>you sit down with the producers before the week starts

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<v Speaker 4>and you said I'd like to bring them in them

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<v Speaker 4>on like so and so and so and so on

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<v Speaker 4>on one on one. The producers will say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 4>brought so and so on one on one two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>That's going to be their second one on one and

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<v Speaker 4>these people don't even haven't even had one yet. Would

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<v Speaker 4>you like to bring one of the people that haven't

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<v Speaker 4>had one yet? Or would you like to give this

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<v Speaker 4>person their second one on one? And you, as the lead,

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<v Speaker 4>get to say, now I want to bring them on

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<v Speaker 4>another one on one, and those other people I don't

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<v Speaker 4>really care to go on one on one with them

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<v Speaker 4>right now. But if everybody kind of gets one and

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<v Speaker 4>one person gets two, there should still only be one

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<v Speaker 4>person this week that hasn't been on a one on

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<v Speaker 4>one yet.

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<v Speaker 3>So why three?

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<v Speaker 2>Things get crazier when you say that. When when Latilla

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<v Speaker 2>got her you know, one on one date night thing,

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<v Speaker 2>that was because Beverly whent Home was an appendicitis, So

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly was even supposed to have that date and Latia

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't supposed to have it. So then that would mean

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<v Speaker 2>that would mean that Litia, Juliana, and Zoe all wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have had a one on one going into this week.

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<v Speaker 3>So very interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't necessarily know if the filming was

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<v Speaker 4>cut short by a week, that would make sense. I

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<v Speaker 4>would answer everything. If there was one week less of filming,

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<v Speaker 4>then producers, can you check this out for us?

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<v Speaker 2>The season did start later than usual too, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the end of January.

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<v Speaker 3>The math just ain't mathing anyways.

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<v Speaker 4>We we did get Juliana on on one on one

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<v Speaker 4>this week. We also are going to see Latian on

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<v Speaker 4>one on one this week. Zoe is not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get one this week. It is a very uncomfortable spot

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<v Speaker 4>for Zoe to be in, and I understand it. I

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<v Speaker 4>understand why should be questioning everything. I would be understand.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm understanding why she's going why am I still here?

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<v Speaker 4>If this is how we're going to play this out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd also so understand how she takes it very personally.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, Ashley, I would say Zoe handled this better

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<v Speaker 4>than really anybody else I've seen. Yes, she brought up

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<v Speaker 4>the concerns, and she kind of communicated to Grant that

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<v Speaker 4>she felt pushed aside. But she didn't make it all

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<v Speaker 4>about herself, even though she really could have.

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<v Speaker 2>She could have, and she was supposedly like villainous earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the season, and now she's really backed off. The

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<v Speaker 2>girls are accepting her, and she's not creating any drama.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not even being very dramatic about this, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very nice and I'm sure very appealing to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was a test.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was like Zoe, I like you enough to

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<v Speaker 2>bring you to hometowns, let's see how you react and

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<v Speaker 2>not getting what.

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<v Speaker 3>A while away to test?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, should we just jump into the Juliana date.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to jump into the Juliana one on

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<v Speaker 4>one date. The card says this Ashley, and I'll let

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<v Speaker 4>you take it away from here.

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<v Speaker 3>Juliana, our love is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fairy tale, so she's gonna get the Cinderella date of

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<v Speaker 2>her season has one and every season, I am jealous

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<v Speaker 2>this sea. This year they take a private was a

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<v Speaker 2>plane in our helicopter and they go to a castle

0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and she gets to pick out a gorgeous gown. He

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<v Speaker 2>gets fitted for a tucks and I am even more

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<v Speaker 2>jealous than usual here because then they go to a

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgerton ball where she gets announced like miss Juliana is

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<v Speaker 2>something her big debut. I'm like, oh, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>They have like the formal dancing. I love this, and

0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.479
<v Speaker 2>there's not much to mention, like obviously they have good chemistry,

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<v Speaker 2>like this was not like something we were worried about

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<v Speaker 2>that I was gonna be awkward or anything between them everything,

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<v Speaker 2>because even he says up front of the date, he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really physically attracted tour, just needing to see if

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<v Speaker 2>there's like more depth there, and yes there is. She

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<v Speaker 2>reveals at dinner that there was some there was somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who had an addiction problem when she was She doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really give a date rain though. We don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this is like with her childhood or this is current,

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<v Speaker 2>because the way she acts seems like it's more current

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<v Speaker 2>than in her deep past. Do you agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's been a lifelong journey for her. I

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<v Speaker 4>also I had to really like respect this moment. And

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<v Speaker 4>people can obviously speak of these things in any way

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<v Speaker 4>they want, but sometimes you have these kind of conversations

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<v Speaker 4>come out and you can tell that the person doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>really want to be talking about what they're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>and naming the people that you know they're naming, and

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<v Speaker 4>you can tell that the producer are like, Hey, you

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<v Speaker 4>should talk to Grant about this. This is a huge

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<v Speaker 4>part of your life. This is a very difficult like

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<v Speaker 4>season for you. He needs to know about it if

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to be engaged at the end, And I

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<v Speaker 4>get why all those conversations are had, so they're not

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<v Speaker 4>like saying anything that's not true. If you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get engaged in the end to this guy, he should

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<v Speaker 4>probably know about this this season of your life, that's

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<v Speaker 4>been such a marker on you. However, some people have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of discomfort and talking about say it was

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<v Speaker 4>her mom, her dad, her grandma and uncle, a friend,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it be. They're like, I don't really they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>sign up for the show, so I don't really want

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<v Speaker 4>to call them out here. She obviously put her foot

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<v Speaker 4>in the ground with the producers. Got to respect her

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<v Speaker 4>for this, and she said, I'll talk about it. I

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<v Speaker 4>do agree that it's important for me to speak of,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm not going to mention who it was. You're

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<v Speaker 4>just going to talk about somebody close to me and

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to be able to get through it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I got to respect that because I always I love

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<v Speaker 4>when people own the decisions they make, because a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of times, you know, we come back afterwards and they're

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<v Speaker 4>like it was all editing or the producers made me

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<v Speaker 4>do it. I'm like, you had every right to stick

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<v Speaker 4>your foot in the ground and say I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to do it that way. And Juliana obviously did, and

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta just give her credit for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good job, Ben, That is a good nuanced pick up,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think like, as an audience, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but who with it? But who is it? And you're

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking like she would really fought to protect the

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<v Speaker 2>whole family.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she loves this person obviously still and she cares

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<v Speaker 4>about him and she doesn't want to, like, you know,

0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.840
<v Speaker 4>crush him. And that that's just something that I think

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<v Speaker 4>is admirable. Not that when you mentioned somebody's name, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not because again, this is your own personal decisions to make.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm glad that she obviously felt strongly that she

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to call it person out and she said, nope, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell him what I need to tell him, and

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<v Speaker 4>then anything else we can talk about afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she said that her bubbly personality, all the laughing,

0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 2>all the smiling, is often a mask, like something that

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<v Speaker 2>she's put on to have like a strong, tough front,

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<v Speaker 2>when she's actually like very sad inside. And we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>and retreat by herself and to be honest, I'm like, Okay, well,

0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought that you're like smiling, overly happy, even smiling

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<v Speaker 2>when you were tittling on a girl last week was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you kind of know why this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is actually an act.

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<v Speaker 2>And that makes me realize that I probably like her

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<v Speaker 2>more than I thought, because I was just like, she

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed too phony last week to me, And now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, okay, well she acknowledges it's phony, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a protection mechanism, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also another.

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<v Speaker 4>I want her to have the space to be real

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<v Speaker 4>and share where she's actually at. And if she's not

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<v Speaker 4>feeling great, she doesn't have to. This is a hard

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<v Speaker 4>environment to not feel great with it. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like being a radio morning host every day, right. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't have a bad day, even if last night was

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<v Speaker 4>the worst day of your life. You can't jump on

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<v Speaker 4>air and just kind of be downtrodden and out. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to pick it up because m it's life, it's

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<v Speaker 4>your job, and so I want her to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to have that space. I also, though, again have to

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 4>give her credit that she saw this and said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not I don't want to be a burden to

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<v Speaker 4>this experience or to anybody else. Even though I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>feeling great, I'm going to try to turn it on

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<v Speaker 4>to keep this thing as fun for Grant, fun for me,

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<v Speaker 4>fun for others as possible. That's a big it's a

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<v Speaker 4>big decision she's making, which makes me actually say this,

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<v Speaker 4>she's my front runner after this date going into hometowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's just obvious to me that it's between

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<v Speaker 2>her and Latia. Yeah, like that's just who he's going

0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.879
<v Speaker 2>to have that extremely hard time deciding between and leaving

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, I think that it's Latia, Like to me

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<v Speaker 2>that that seems like the connection that's stronger. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously in a few weeks he's completely paralleled out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we see that coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>For the sake of this conversation, ashually, we obviously have

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<v Speaker 4>a big group date that sits in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>this with a lot of drama. But let's jump to

0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.040
<v Speaker 4>the Latia one on one to kind of compare the two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's bad to the group date.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say this again, a great date, the most

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<v Speaker 4>honest conversation that I've seen the two of them have,

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.920
<v Speaker 4>or any I really have. Seeden Grant have all seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the best conversation we've seen on The Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 2>like for sure all year, but like a memorable one,

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.399
<v Speaker 2>like one that I might like remember from seasons from

0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 2>now is the one about her Mormon faith exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a It's one that feels like it transcends the show.

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 4>It opens up.

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<v Speaker 3>Life outs to life outside of this show.

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<v Speaker 4>They both dug deep within this conversation to pull out

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.439
<v Speaker 4>things about their lives personally. There was emotions brought in.

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<v Speaker 4>As much as we love to know that these conversations

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 4>exist throughout the whole season, they don't, and honestly, sometimes

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.440
<v Speaker 4>they do. Some seasons we feel like every conversation that's

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 4>had is intentional, it's meaningful, the right questions are asked,

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 4>both people are opening up, and some seasons we don't

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 4>get it at all. Right, Some of the Bachelor seasons

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 4>that we've talked about that maybe didn't hit the mark

0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 4>for us were because we never felt like there was

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 4>a real conversation from start to finish. We don't know

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 4>anybody any better. Everything was surface level. This was not

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:17.480
<v Speaker 4>surface level. This was a good conversation. The date itself

0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 4>was a beautiful date. The two of them obviously have

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 4>a great connection. They're very comfortable with each other. I

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.440
<v Speaker 4>agree with you that she would be the other person

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.359
<v Speaker 4>right now, that would be at the top. But I

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<v Speaker 4>will say this, for as healthy as that conversation was

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<v Speaker 4>between the two of them, I would not put her

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<v Speaker 4>over Juliana, because they will become a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>A thing, Okay, it has to. I mean, if your family, well.

0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 2>It may not from his point of view, become like

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the point of view, it might not from her point

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of view, but it will become a thing with the family.

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<v Speaker 3>If she's giving us these hints of how her family

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.959
<v Speaker 3>dynamic is, I'm not saying right or wrong. And in

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<v Speaker 3>the past, if she's traditionally dated people within her faith

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 3>tradition consistently and now she's stepping outside of that and

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<v Speaker 3>now she's coming to hometowns, the family is not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to say it's they're even gonna have a

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 3>problem with it. They're just gonna have a lot of

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 3>questions that will that will not help this relationship have

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 3>a sturdy foundation. Things will be questionable from that point on. Okay,

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 3>So I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Some questions for you, But before that, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make just a few little things I noticed. So one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that we get asked about a lot, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, Ben, but if I ask,

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<v Speaker 2>are my Instagram following for behind the scenes questions from

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 2>the from the show? A lot of them want to know,

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 2>do you guys talk politics or religion before you know,

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 2>getting down on one knee, And I said that I

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<v Speaker 2>think usually it's probably a fantasy, sweet type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But from your point of view, especially since you do

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<v Speaker 2>have a great faith, is that something that you brought

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<v Speaker 2>up on dates during the show or is that something

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of steered you away from.

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<v Speaker 4>First off, I love that politics and your faith get

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 4>thrown into the same bucket.

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 2>They're both private conversations that you don't want to air

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<v Speaker 2>out to.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, faith was a huge conversation within the season

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<v Speaker 4>that I was a part of. We always talked about

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 4>it because nothing makes sense within my life without my faith.

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 4>So if you take my faith away, there's just a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of like open questions and open holes on like why.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do what you do? And yeah, why do

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 3>you say what you say?

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<v Speaker 4>And the I mean so like it had to be

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say it's a part of my personality.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's one hundred percent a part of like my

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<v Speaker 4>every breath moment, like my value system, like my morals,

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.479
<v Speaker 4>how I view others people even in breakups, like I

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 4>wanted them. I wanted the woman to know, like I

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 4>still believe they are a child of God.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't mean I'm just dismissing them or that I think

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<v Speaker 5>they're unattractive. I just am not feeling it romantically. Faith

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 5>was a huge part. It just was never shown, and

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't really know why. Maybe to the producers it

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a story they wanted, or it wasn't as interesting

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 5>as other conversations that we're having politics because of my

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 5>I think political like fire was, I was less interesting.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean I would talk about it. If somebody asked me,

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<v Speaker 5>like what do you believe about X y Z? I

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 5>would tell them because they asked. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 5>my driving force, Like my faith oftentimes is the catalyst

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 5>to why I believe politically what I believe, And so

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<v Speaker 5>if you understand my faith, yeah, you're probably gonna understand me,

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 5>which probably helps you understand that like how I'm you know,

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 5>what I believe politically, Yeah, so I don't remember having like, hey,

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 5>what do you think about this guy or this girl,

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 5>or you know, what do you think about that wall.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't remember those conversations, but I do remember talking

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<v Speaker 5>about like my belief in humans often.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So when she tells him that she's Mormon, I

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 2>had two things. Actually, I knew that this conversation was

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>going to come up, but I didn't remember that until

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 2>like she was like I was like, oh my god,

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.719
<v Speaker 2>that's right, she's Mormon, and this conversation was coming. I

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>have two questions for you. How much do you know

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 2>about Mormon's dating outside of their faith?

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know quite a bit about the Mormon Church.

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<v Speaker 2>So do they typically date outside not typic Definitely not typically?

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 3>But is it does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it usually an issue with the family if they do?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it would be a it would be issue would

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 4>probably be the best word to use. Yes, it would

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 4>be a conversation.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 2>And then are you surprised that someone of the Mormon

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>faith would go on the show?

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<v Speaker 4>You know you have this kind of like, I mean,

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 4>obviously I know enough about the Mormon church to uh

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 4>speak to it. Incredibly generous people, an insanely close community,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 4>like the very tight knit community, and the Church of

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 4>Latter day Saints is the one of the biggest givers

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 4>of funds too in g o's around the world, like

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 4>just insanely generous. And so, you know, I think I'll

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 4>say this, I'm going to make an assumption. This would

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 4>this would be like a really big topic that like

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 4>like religious studies would have to like go into.

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I would say, with this.

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Kind of new era of this new generation coming up

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 4>within the Mormon Church, I think we've seen them be

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 4>more accepting of being in the social scene, right. We

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 4>just we're seeing more and more people put their faith

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 4>out there, talk about it and go on shows or

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 4>have shows.

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 3>You know. So I don't know, I am.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 4>I would say the one thing here that is interesting

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 4>to me that I would have probably asked if I

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 4>was grant just because of my lack of knowledge, would

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 4>have been that question, well.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Would I have to convert to Well, no, it would

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>be the question.

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 4>Of you would have been you obviously know that I'm

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 4>not a you know, a practicing Mormon, and so for

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 4>you to come on this show, like what was your

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 4>expectations of me and our relationship when you came on

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 4>the show, knowing that I didn't practice this same faith.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So obviously she has to be okay with the thought.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be my assumption.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm getting to is like, I'm assuming that

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 4>she thought about this, that she walked through this. Maybe

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.959
<v Speaker 4>she never knew how far she would go, and so

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 4>she's like, I'll just confront it when I need to

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 4>confront it. And this seemed like a good time. But

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I would have asked that conversation if I was Grant,

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 4>like what were you thinking?

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Then? I mean, this is a big deal, right, Also.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>We get from this conversation that, I mean, the standout

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>moment to me was that he has a faith in

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>God for sure, and just so emotional. He gets so emotional.

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I feel so emotional when he says that, you know,

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>he really wants to have dinner at the table with

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>his family and that he didn't really have this when

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>he grew up. He would take his dinner to his

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and eat alone and then talk to God in

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>those moments, and I was like, I'm destroyed.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>How beautiful is he?

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's beautiful that he has a relationship with God

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and that that's what and you know that in those

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>moments he wasn't like I'm going to go and like

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>play a video game and seclude myself further into like

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>all this whole life, but that he reached out and

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>it was so faithful still like and I mean faithful

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>about like his future and his belief in God and

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>all that, and that he craved connection.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.959
<v Speaker 4>I mean some would say that God speaks the loudest

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 4>in the quietest of moments, and it sounds like Grant

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 4>spent a lot of time in quiet, And I think

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>when you slow down and spend some time in quiet,

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 4>I think God shows up, or at least you can

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 4>hear it. And so there's probably even though Grant didn't

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 4>really speak of his strong like I wake up every day,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 4>like he kind of like spoke to this checklist that

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 4>he would have to do to say that he had

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 4>a strong faith.

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, I don't have my nine PM prayers.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, from my perspective, his you know what, Like from

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 4>what I've heard from there, his faith is so strong, yeah,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 4>And that the checklist isn't at all, at least within

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 4>the Christian tradition, something that is a marker of how

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 4>strong or how weak your faith is. It's those quiet

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 4>moments that you've spend with God. And so I'm listening

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 4>to Grant there and I'm like, dude, like you've had

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 4>you have had this, Like there's a reason that you're kind,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 4>that you're considerate, that your introspective, that you seem to

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 4>be caring so deeply for the women that are involved

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 4>in this process, even though this process is so goofy.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 4>You you recognize the humanity that exists with than these

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 4>women and as a result, like we're seeing that as

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 4>as a lead, and like that's what's making you a

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 4>good lead because I can tell you care, which I will.

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 5>Also say is probably why the ending is so bad.

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 5>Hard for him, like a man o man. He doesn't

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 5>realize how much he's going to care, and that could.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Be a problem.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Ben Ben Ben. It was like in that moment, I

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm so glad this guy's the bachelor, and

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>then in the back of my mind, I was like,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>how could he?

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>How could he?

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>How does he go from this conversation too? I don't

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.239
<v Speaker 2>know if I'm going to pick her and it's not

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>like just her, Like how do you go from like

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>this is this beautiful moment? This is beautiful moment. I

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>can't say it any other way to being like I'm

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>going to make a decision so frivolously, like just so.

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I think we see a lot.

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 4>I'll tease this for the rest of this season and

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 4>and hopefully the Bachelor's producers are listening to this and

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 4>can like give us a little high five. And I

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 4>mean it when I say this. I think the last

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 4>few episodes of this season are going to be memorable, captivating,

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 4>incredible storytelling and really like where you're on the edge

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 4>of your seat hoping for that episode to drop next

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 4>week because you want to know what happens. I think

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 4>we're about to get a really raw version of Grant

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 4>that I am excited to see.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>He's going to be so uncomfortable. He hasn't really been

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable yet.

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's about to get out of this like kind

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 4>of like smooth from good looking guy like he's he's

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 4>had that the whole season and it's been great. I

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 4>think we're about to see Grant break and that's I mean,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 4>I've been there. That's when the season gets real, and

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>I think we're about to see it.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Ashlely, for the.

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 4>Sake of time, we got to jump to this group

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 4>day Now, there's obviously some drama that comes up at

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 4>this group date, circling around a topic that's been the.

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Topic for the last few weeks here.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 5>Zoe doesn't have a one on one this week, so

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 5>we come into this group day kind of expecting her

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 5>to be the main focus of this group day. However,

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 5>to everybody's disappointment, at least the cast, she wasn't because

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 5>there's one other person that's feeling pushed aside. Actually, after

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 5>weeks of engaging in this show, and after weeks of

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 5>talking through this with co hosts and fans of the show,

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 5>at any point during this group.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Day, did you feel like Carolina was doing one anything wrong?

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 4>That's the best way I know how to describe it.

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 4>And two are you annoyed by her?

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Or do you get it? Well?

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I've defended her a lot, thinking that like the girls

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>were to a certain extent like ganging up on her,

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>especially when like a lot of the issues started with

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>her relationship with Rose and Rose telling her something weird

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>and them saying that she was monopolizing time when I

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>actually thought that she needed to use the time to

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 2>get some answers. This is probably the episode in which

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like Okay, Carolyn, I you probably do need to

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 2>chill the hell out. I still think that there might

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>be a little of reaction. The only overreaction I really

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>felt was Dina was like, do you not have free will?

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>And like because she wanted her to admit that she

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>had the free will to tell Grant, Hey, I'm just

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>having a sad moment, but please don't don't give your

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>time to me, because I want you to give your

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>time to the other girls. We should all be having time.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, well, like Carolina says, not in

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>the history of the Bachelor, has anybody said, oh, please

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>don't give me your time. I would much prefer all

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>our time to be equally divided. Please go back to

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 2>the other girls while I'm having this sad moment. Like,

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of thing where I was like, you know,

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I still can see I understand Carolina's point. If he's

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 2>coming to her, he's going she's going to take advantage

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of the time. Now. I didn't care for Carolina in

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>this episode because I think this was like the first

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>time where she wasn't a She really wasn't a team player.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>There's a difference between getting more time with the lead

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>because of like this and that, but like for you

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh, you know, I'm just down and out,

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna sit out on the activities. That

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 2>is kind of begging for that's just begging for special treatment.

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>And Grant is kind of too nice not to give

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 2>into it.

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well I think he has to give into it.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean one of the fears is the lead, and

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 4>it's been this way. I've talked almost every lead is

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 4>these group dates at the end get really awkward because

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<v Speaker 4>there's only five people on them, and all five of

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.439
<v Speaker 4>these women you've probably other than this.

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Is four and was there four but four or five,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a one on one with all of them.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have these close relationships and now you're like

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<v Speaker 4>at the end and you're like, let's still have a

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<v Speaker 4>group date. It's very awkward. It's a very weird environment.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh and it and it just feels tough. And so

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<v Speaker 4>one of the hopes I remember, at this exact date

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<v Speaker 4>during my season, all of us were standing together and

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<v Speaker 4>I said, here's a deal. This is awkward and this

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 4>is weird for all of us. Yeah, this is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be so much easier if we just slap on

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 4>our good attitudes and try to have the best time possible,

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 4>because if not, this could be like rough. We all

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 4>know that, we all we all know we're walking on

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 4>this like fine line between all of us getting mad

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 4>at each other and falling into the deep end. And

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 4>so can we just put on our good attitudes for

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 4>this thing and have the best time possible. Yeah, And

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what your hope is as the lead

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<v Speaker 4>for this date specifically, is can we just get through

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<v Speaker 4>this because none of us really want to be here

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 4>doing what we're doing today. Well, so for Carolina to

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 4>pull this kind of sit aside, I get it from

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 4>her perspective. She's just down, like she doesn't want to

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 4>be there. She's making it very well known. She's kind

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 4>of like this is pointless.

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching it, no, you.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean. She does the opposite of Juliana,

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:24.959
<v Speaker 2>like she can't put on the happy face.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 3>She can't put on the happy face.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 4>And she says this thing to Grant where she says,

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I just see all these other relationships far past ours,

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 4>and so I'm wondering what I'm doing here. And I

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 4>think that's what she's really feeling, is she's sitting there going,

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 4>am I just sticking around for a Row ceremony because

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 4>maybe it's just better for me to leave now in

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 4>this moment because he obviously cares more about some other

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 4>people that are on this show right now.

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The issue with her is that she's always needing validation.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Every week, she needs a new solo moment with him

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 2>to get validation, and she's just constantly feeling like, are

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:02.919
<v Speaker 2>we not up to par? Are we not up to part?

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I just like, maybe you're you Just

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 2>if that's how you're feeling, you're just not connecting.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, maybe you're not at the par and you

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 4>should go home, which from me watching it this week,

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 4>I felt like she wanted to go home. I think she,

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 4>in a sense wanted Grant to tell her, Hey, you're right,

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 4>let's just call it here. You're good, Like pack the bags,

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 4>get out.

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Of here, okay.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think her ego can handle wanted to

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 2>handle getting eliminated at a Rose ceremony, which is maybe

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>why she wanted to continuously have one on one time

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>with him. Be Like, if it's gonna end, it's gonna

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>end with us too. Right here, I am not getting

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>eliminated at a rose.

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 3>That's fair too.

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 5>Then yeah, then show off and say no, I'm out, Like, hey,

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 5>this is this is it for me?

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Peace out, everybody. I'm sending myself home.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of the conversation around this drama, it did

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 4>feel like the girls are over. They're exhausting themselves on

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 4>a topic that is not worth focusing on too much. Yes,

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 4>she's taking up some time. However, it feels it did

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 4>feel like, at least from what we saw on the show,

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 4>they are isolating her. They're not really letting her say

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 4>anything without it being the wrong thing to say. I

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 4>think they're frustrated with her. And then the argument of

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 4>that somebody will give up their time for somebody else

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 4>out of fairness is absolutely ridiculous. That's never happened, it

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 4>never will happen, and you don't think of stuff that way.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Now I understand the crux of what Dina was trying

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to say, which is like I stood up for you.

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand while the other girls had an issue.

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to be understanding of you, and now

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 2>like you've crossed my line, like you have been absolutely ridiculous.

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And then it's nice to see them makeup in the

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 2>final you know scenes of the show in which we

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>can we can quickly go through who gets eliminated. We

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>would have said that we were shocked to see Alex

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>leave a couple weeks ago. She's the classic had the

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>first one on one situation where we get like very

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 2>tied up with the person who goes first, and we're like,

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the one that sets the precedent right, and it

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>feels so strong because we haven't seen him really have

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a one on one with anyone else, any like sort

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 2>of long term, in depth conversation with anyone else, so

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 2>we immediately think that that person is gonna they've got

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 2>it right, but she has fallen down the steps, so

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to speak, over the past few weeks. And then Sarah

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Fina I always kind of knew last week. It was like, oh,

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>this is a date, they're gonna have fun, but she's

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>not getting to hometowns. And then Carolina, you know, she

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 2>that's it. It was it was time, and I think

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that he did take some of the warnings from the

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>other girls to heart when it came to.

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Her final thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>As we close out this episode, Ashley's top four was

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Zoe Alex, Carolina, and Nissi, so she had one of four.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 5>My final four was Zoe, Alex, Alisha, Rebecca, so Zoe

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 5>is the one that got us into the final four

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 5>for both of us. Finally, this season has been rushed.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 5>There was only twenty five women, seven of them sent

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 5>home on the first night, four in the second. This

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 5>is an unusual situation because historically the Bachelor is nine

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 5>to thirteen episodes. Joey had eleven, Grant will only have nine.

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 5>Thirty women are usually standard.

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>So, yes, we were right, there is a unique The

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 4>math is mathing because it's a unique season.

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 3>For the Bachelor. Shorter, less women, less women being eliminated.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what, you guys, you should have had an

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 2>extra episode and not given us a women tell all.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's a woman tell all coming our way

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna be annoyed by it. Also, last thought, Zoe,

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>she's got to be one of the very few people

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>in Bachelor history you get to hometowns without having a

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>one on one date. Should be the first. Yeah, I

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.919
<v Speaker 2>don't think she's the first, but she's one of few.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 2>All Right, well, guys, we are going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>an episode with Alicia. If you remember her, she was

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.720
<v Speaker 2>a shock elimination week two, so stay tuned for that

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>episode and we'll be back with more this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Until then, I've been Ben and I've been Ashley. Bye.

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