Speaker 1: Talk talk to We're just two unapologetically black women with
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Speaker 2: What's up y'all? Thank you for tending that for a
Speaker 2: new episode that we talked back A show dedicated to
Speaker 2: you dreamers and chasers and everybody else in between. This
Speaker 2: is your co hosts a j holiday What's Up Town.
Speaker 1: And this is dedicated to you, hosing you niggas too,
Speaker 1: because we forgot about y'all.
Speaker 2: I love all of y'all, this special group. Hey, ye,
Speaker 2: what's so child? What you got going on?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that this weekend is over. I
Speaker 1: felt overwhelmed with life, so yeah, celebrating that white Man's holiday,
Speaker 1: I didn't celebrate.
Speaker 4: I stayed in the house.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was on my porch watching all the madness downstairs,
Speaker 1: because you know, it was just madness going on. And
Speaker 1: my friend was on the phone, one of my guy friends,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you just look down there like
Speaker 1: an auntie, just staring at them kids down there, like.
Speaker 2: Like Blue Ivy in New Orleans. Remember that that video
Speaker 2: of Blue Ivy looking down at all the peasants, the
Speaker 2: people out there cutting up like ill. I didn't do
Speaker 2: much this weekend either, just hung out, played the house
Speaker 2: a little bit. That's about it. Chilled out. I ain't
Speaker 2: even had like no barbecuing or nothing, which I don't
Speaker 2: really eat. People should have to bring my own salmon
Speaker 2: to people barbecues nowadays.
Speaker 1: Baby, I ordered. I didn't even go to nobody's barbecue.
Speaker 1: I just ordered something from a restaurant. Like, fuck it.
Speaker 2: I saw a fucking tweet that said, this generation don't
Speaker 2: even cook out no more. All they do is do
Speaker 2: drugs and torqu.
Speaker 1: Right, that's it, shake the ass and do drugs.
Speaker 2: My family actually did had a bit have a big
Speaker 2: ass cookout back at home, but I missed that. I
Speaker 2: wasn't in town at my family's restaurant. Shout out to
Speaker 2: Bertha's Kitchen in Charleston, South Carolina.
Speaker 1: My my mom and my sister was at you know,
Speaker 1: at home, and they lit the grill and then cut
Speaker 1: that motherfucker off and went and bought an indoor grill
Speaker 1: and grill in the house. It's like it's too high.
Speaker 2: Girl, Okay, So why An article came out saying that
Speaker 2: fourth of July twenty twenty three was the hottest day
Speaker 2: in history for the planet, just like average heat for
Speaker 2: the whole world yesterday. Well, excuse me, July fourth was
Speaker 2: the hottest day for planet Earth. And I believe it
Speaker 2: because bitch I could see the heat.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't even go out in it. I was looking
Speaker 1: for my patio and anytime I felt overwhelmed with the heat,
Speaker 1: I just ran back inside. Baby, I didn't do nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this type of heat, you gotta wash a
Speaker 2: couple of times. Beink just be smelling like outside all
Speaker 2: day long.
Speaker 1: Just stay down here, big mama, y'all.
Speaker 2: Today we have a special guest. When we talked back, y'all,
Speaker 2: he is uh responsible for a lot of our favorite
Speaker 2: songs like Sweet Dreams, Beyonce, Good Morning with Diddy. Uh,
Speaker 2: there goes my thing. Okay, I'm auditioning. Also, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: so I might be whistling and singing a lots okay,
Speaker 2: and twork city girls. I just found that out the hell, y'all,
Speaker 2: we have mister Rico love or we talked back, were good, all.
Speaker 1: Right, it's too hot, it's getting too high.
Speaker 4: It was good in this in this on this level though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you.
Speaker 1: Feel about the setup. It's nice, right, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you can get on after we finished little something for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll be dope.
Speaker 4: I don't think we got no sticks.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hit it with your hands.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. So okay, Rico, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So our listener, we want them to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit. Tell us how you started Turn
Speaker 1: the Lights On?
Speaker 3: How Turn the Lights On came about? Yeah, Well, a
Speaker 3: friend of mine, Ma'am's Taylor. He was a co owner
Speaker 3: of this club in La called Area. So we stay
Speaker 3: hang out in this spot like every weekend. When I
Speaker 3: say like, it would be like Lindsay Lohan, Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 3: you know, Paris Hill, and this was like a Wednesday
Speaker 3: night was the party, but we would come and go
Speaker 3: frequently because he was one of the owners.
Speaker 4: So there was a DJ and then those type of clubs.
Speaker 3: The DJs played the same kind of set list every night,
Speaker 3: and they played a song by Pink Floyd Caught the Wall, and.
Speaker 4: Then in the song they say, hey, teacher, lead those
Speaker 4: kids alone, and all the lights would go crazy in
Speaker 4: the club.
Speaker 3: So I would say, like, every time that part would
Speaker 3: build up, I would say, turn the lights on, like
Speaker 3: to myself. So one day I was in a studio
Speaker 3: and I always a climactic part of the record, every
Speaker 3: time it builds up and right before the drop, I
Speaker 3: would just say turn the lights on. And my good
Speaker 3: friend Mams Taylor, he was like, you should say that
Speaker 3: in all the songs you write.
Speaker 4: That should be your thing.
Speaker 3: So I started doing it, and at that time, top
Speaker 3: liners and just anybody who's not educated on educator how
Speaker 3: music work. So, a producer is a songwriter, lyric and
Speaker 3: melody person is a songwriter. We're all called songwriters, but
Speaker 3: they are top line, which is lyric and melody. That's
Speaker 3: the guy who writes the lyrics and words and melody.
Speaker 3: And there's a producer, guys who historically has been known
Speaker 3: to produce the music. He's considered the producer, even though
Speaker 3: the top line guy could also be the producer. Now,
Speaker 3: when I was coming up in the business, the top
Speaker 3: liner didn't get the recognition. It was always the guy
Speaker 3: who made the beat.
Speaker 4: I e.
Speaker 3: Timberland, Rodney Jerkins, Pharrell, you know those guys who made
Speaker 3: the tracks. So to give attention to people like myself
Speaker 3: who were writing a lyric and melody, I started doing
Speaker 3: my tags on every song that I wrote and putting
Speaker 3: the turn of lights on records, and that's how it came.
Speaker 4: About and it became a thing or everybody does it now.
Speaker 3: Everybody does it now. Yeah, And a lot of people
Speaker 3: credit it to hearing me doing it early on, and
Speaker 3: a lot of people just feel like this is just
Speaker 3: a new wave and either way is great because we
Speaker 3: all that's our calling card. We're only as good as
Speaker 3: the last thing we've done. And to make sure that
Speaker 3: our name makes noise in the marketplace, we have to
Speaker 3: establish and brand ourselves.
Speaker 4: That's super important.
Speaker 1: Wow, see how you're I thought the whole time, y'all
Speaker 1: was just like he want to fuck with the light song?
Speaker 2: And that's what I think. That's when people started doing
Speaker 2: I mean that's what I did. I was like, go ahead, nigga,
Speaker 2: turn the lights on.
Speaker 4: You said, do that ship. That's a that's a good
Speaker 4: way to look at it too.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 1: Talk about your creative process, because write in these beautiful songs.
Speaker 1: There goes my baby, Like it's so like eloquent and
Speaker 1: thought provoking, Like how what is your creative process to
Speaker 1: make these songs that everybody jams too?
Speaker 3: You know, I just I think, first and foremost I'm
Speaker 3: a fan of really great songwriting. You know from the
Speaker 3: Beatles to Stevie to you know, def Lepper to you
Speaker 3: know Mariah Carey and Janet and all those classic iconic songs.
Speaker 3: So what I think my process is more than anything,
Speaker 3: is understanding of chord progression. I think a piano progression
Speaker 3: or a guitar progression, those four chords. I think there's
Speaker 3: so many different melodies live inside of those chords. So
Speaker 3: my process is usually sitting at a piano singinge at
Speaker 3: the guitar and I don't play instruments, but sitting with
Speaker 3: a piano player, sitting with a guitar player and going
Speaker 3: through a chord progression and the one that sticks, I
Speaker 3: try to make a melody fit inside of that progression.
Speaker 3: And that's usually how I create. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: building it around the actual song. The reason why is
Speaker 3: when the song is stripped and it's just the lyric
Speaker 3: and the guitar lyric and the piano, then you know
Speaker 3: the full essence and you can feel the melody, and
Speaker 3: you can feel the richest and the wholesomeness of the melody.
Speaker 3: And when you have a rich, wholesome melody, you can
Speaker 3: build music around anything. But you can't you can't make
Speaker 3: a shit song sound great. But what you can do
Speaker 3: is you can make a great song sound greater when
Speaker 3: you put incredible production around the song. So I want
Speaker 3: to make sure that if you strip all of my songs,
Speaker 3: it still feels good without music, the lyric and the
Speaker 3: melody stand alone.
Speaker 2: So I listen to Apple. I usually stream my music
Speaker 2: on Apple right, and anytime like I'm listening to a
Speaker 2: new song or maybe like a song I hadn't heard
Speaker 2: in a long time, I always go to the lyrics.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck wrote this is? I feel when I
Speaker 2: hear certain things in the song, like who wrote this?
Speaker 3: Also taking consideration for a sample or interpolation, that person
Speaker 3: is credited. So a lot of times when you see
Speaker 3: like ten fifteen names is because if they sample more money,
Speaker 3: more problems by Diddy and Mache and Biggie right, they
Speaker 3: sampled that that not only did mais Diddy a memo
Speaker 3: or cVj or whoever.
Speaker 4: Made the beat and Biggie.
Speaker 3: Not only are they sample or they credit, but the
Speaker 3: people that they sample from them are credited. And then
Speaker 3: if they sampled somebody where they sample from. So a
Speaker 3: lot of times you see all these names and they'll
Speaker 3: be like, oh, such and such. Got all these people
Speaker 3: writing a song, you know, it's the sample that's everybody this,
Speaker 3: but they deserve the credit because their contribution to the
Speaker 3: original record made the song with it is. So when
Speaker 3: you look at that, a lot of times it's that myself.
Speaker 3: I'm what they call one hundred percenter or a fifty percent,
Speaker 3: So I write majority of every record I've ever written,
Speaker 3: I written.
Speaker 4: By myself as well.
Speaker 3: There are no no disrespect to people who collaborate, But
Speaker 3: my process was always kind of so fast that I
Speaker 3: wrote a lot of my hit records alone, so you
Speaker 3: would only see my name and maybe a Jim Johnson
Speaker 3: or a Danger or and sometimes the artists will get
Speaker 3: publishing on the record. That's the real estate, and they
Speaker 3: own that real estate. So to pay attacks sometimes you
Speaker 3: have to give a piece of the publishing to the artists,
Speaker 3: which is fair business, and so you'll see their name.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I kind of like try
Speaker 3: to stay away from the heavy samples, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: On some records I had.
Speaker 2: Thrown back was a heavy sample. There a lot of
Speaker 2: people original.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Warwick put me back like yeah, that was
Speaker 3: my first first song I wrote, So that was that's amazing.
Speaker 4: That was a heavy sample song.
Speaker 3: But uh, and they took fifty percent of that record too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so which to you know, they deserve it. That that
Speaker 3: production and that riff and that transition and the progression.
Speaker 3: It was just timeless and it just it made for us.
Speaker 3: It made it very easy for me.
Speaker 4: To write the song.
Speaker 1: So, okay, a song like there Goes My Baby was
Speaker 1: like a fat ass walking by your girlfriend, Like at
Speaker 1: the time, walking by.
Speaker 2: With no draws on you was like the head goes
Speaker 2: lines like how does it?
Speaker 1: How does like how do the thoughts come to you?
Speaker 2: Is it something like that?
Speaker 4: Or oh?
Speaker 3: I was really it was I had just suffered a
Speaker 3: really crazy tragedy in my life, to be totally honest,
Speaker 3: and I went straight to the studio the next day.
Speaker 3: So when I was writing the record, honestly, it was
Speaker 3: an idea about this girl is the most beautiful girl
Speaker 3: in the world, and I didn't realize it until just
Speaker 3: this moment, and she's taking forever to get ready. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting at the edge of the bed and I look
Speaker 3: and I see this girl and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: there goes my baby. So forgetting you, No, no, really,
Speaker 3: you know you're sitting it funny, but a lot of
Speaker 3: times men will forget what they have or the quality
Speaker 3: of the women.
Speaker 4: That they have.
Speaker 3: So sometimes familiar, yeah, you get really and in all things, right,
Speaker 3: don't we get familiar with? You know, in business we
Speaker 3: get familiar with and friendships and relationships and all these things.
Speaker 3: So the idea of the song is for a guy
Speaker 3: to just kind of sit back and reflect.
Speaker 4: Like, oh shit, my shorty is bad. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 3: Girl, look at you. So I wanted to create a
Speaker 3: moment that it has so many different meanings but just
Speaker 3: felt so good. Like the gold for every song is
Speaker 3: to make sure it just feels good to people and
Speaker 3: they can interpret it anyway they want.
Speaker 4: And even when they listen to it now.
Speaker 3: I bet when people listen to it now, when he says,
Speaker 3: bet you ain't know what, I'll be checking you out.
Speaker 4: When you be putting your heels on.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 3: It's so perfect baby, how you work it baby, Like
Speaker 3: he's like, wow, I love the way that you be
Speaker 3: poking it out.
Speaker 4: Give me somebody. It's like he's paying attention to her
Speaker 4: now in this moment, you know.
Speaker 3: And then also a little nugget was that I was
Speaker 3: a huge fan of Usher and Chili dynamic.
Speaker 2: Everybody, when you're listening.
Speaker 3: To the second verse, I said, I get the chills
Speaker 3: whenever I see your face and you in the place,
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a movie.
Speaker 4: Baby. I'm like, ooh wee, baby, like water falls, your
Speaker 4: hair falls down to your waist.
Speaker 3: Can I get a taste? No need to creep, because baby,
Speaker 3: I ain't a shame my coring there. I was naming
Speaker 3: TC songs.
Speaker 4: You was getting him some.
Speaker 2: Everybody else.
Speaker 3: I was trying to drop the nuggets in there to like,
Speaker 3: I wanted to hint at this idea him and Chili.
Speaker 3: I always thought that that was an incredible pairing. And
Speaker 3: and I love Jen, you know, I was just current
Speaker 3: girlfriend and I think she's amazing. But at that point
Speaker 3: in my life, I was so young and I was
Speaker 3: so enamored.
Speaker 2: With you, and everybody wanted Chili, right yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Chili is just such a you know, and beautiful. So
Speaker 3: I just kind of threw that nugget in there. A
Speaker 3: lot of people may miss that, but when they listen,
Speaker 3: when you listen to that, my baby, listen that second verse.
Speaker 3: I definitely had Chili in my nice.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a question.
Speaker 1: Because it's a lot of niggas out here making beautiful
Speaker 1: music for Facebook and SoundCloud and that's it, right, and
Speaker 1: then it never goes nowhere. How did you get into
Speaker 1: a place where everybody is like one, let me get
Speaker 1: Rico love on it. Let me get Rico love on it.
Speaker 3: First of all, blessed enough and fortunate enough to have
Speaker 3: existed before social media, so which is an incredible asset
Speaker 3: and a credible tool to so many creatives, but it
Speaker 3: also widens. It doesn't see. The door to go through
Speaker 3: to make it is the same size. It's just the
Speaker 3: access to get to that door. It's easier.
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What I mean by that is there are one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand songs uploaded every day to Spotify. So
Speaker 3: what that means is we're going down one door, one corridor.
Speaker 3: But it's just the directions to get there is a
Speaker 3: lot easier. Whereas back in the day, you had to
Speaker 3: know somebody, you had to perform, you have to be
Speaker 3: super talented. People had to see something special in you.
Speaker 3: They had a team that would cultivate and develop it.
Speaker 3: Now it's like develop it at home. Do it yourself,
Speaker 3: put it out. If it sticks, we want to give
Speaker 3: you money for it. So in that sense, the business
Speaker 3: is a lot more difficult, but in another sense it's
Speaker 3: a lot easier because you can upload something, put it out,
Speaker 3: if it connects, if you build an audience, you can
Speaker 3: gain revenue from it, you can build a following, you
Speaker 3: can potentially get it will make a lot of next thing.
Speaker 1: You know, you outside and stay singing.
Speaker 2: But booty brown whatever you know, girl don't do sexy
Speaker 2: in you know, hold on my boy, excuse me my
Speaker 2: booty whole brown. That's wild.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I don't go out a lot. But
Speaker 3: I went out a few weeks ago and I saw
Speaker 3: gods singing it, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, you saw dove all weekend this past weekend.
Speaker 2: You've all had his? Uh the guys was somebody comment
Speaker 2: and was like, I swore I just heard somebody say
Speaker 2: ski we.
Speaker 4: Man just the way of the world.
Speaker 2: So that was actually one of my questions though, because
Speaker 2: of social media and stuff. So even back then, do
Speaker 2: you think it's in your opinion, is it talent or
Speaker 2: hard work that actually gets people?
Speaker 3: Hard work is gonna always get you, keep you consistent. Now,
Speaker 3: The thing about getting in the business is because it's
Speaker 3: such a crap shoot, you can get in it. It's
Speaker 3: a roll of the dice. You can roll seven and
Speaker 3: on the first row and you can actually make it
Speaker 3: into the business. But there's a technique and the skill
Speaker 3: that comes into consistently hitting your number. And I think
Speaker 3: that it takes hard work to sustain anything, right, but
Speaker 3: to get in the business, it does not necessarily take
Speaker 3: the hard work, and that's the problem. For some it
Speaker 3: takes extreme level of consistency, persistence, and hard work, but
Speaker 3: for others it's just I threw something up. I started
Speaker 3: rapping six months ago. I started rapping a month ago,
Speaker 3: my first song I put out here. So then what
Speaker 3: happens is those who stick around, they are the ones
Speaker 3: that you know are actually talented. So when Glorilla first
Speaker 3: came out, you didn't know what it was going to be.
Speaker 3: But I see the consistent work. I can tell that
Speaker 3: she works extremely hard. So when I watch it, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: everything that's happening for her she deserves because she didn't
Speaker 3: just take it. Now, Cardi be the same way. Cardi
Speaker 3: B is an artist who I didn't think was super talented.
Speaker 3: But the work that as into it, and the consistency
Speaker 3: and the dedication to the craft. So if you can
Speaker 3: find a way to obsess over the actual art and
Speaker 3: not just over the making the money, then I think
Speaker 3: that And obviously you want to be lucrative, you want
Speaker 3: to make money, you want to be successful, But if
Speaker 3: you could find a way to obsess over the art,
Speaker 3: then I think that's more.
Speaker 4: About character than it is about moods. And I say
Speaker 4: this a lot. Your character should be consistent. Your mood
Speaker 4: can change. Who you are is going to be consistent.
Speaker 4: The way you do anything is the way you do everything.
Speaker 3: So when you when you think about that, you've got
Speaker 3: to understand, like if somebody was in the trap and
Speaker 3: he was dedicated, little baby was in the streets and
Speaker 3: he was known for getting to some money. So his
Speaker 3: dedication to consistently be able to earn in the streets
Speaker 3: transitioned over to his music, and when he started making music,
Speaker 3: he took the same mindset, the same hustle, the same consistency.
Speaker 3: The way you do anything is the way you do everything,
Speaker 3: and that's why he's able to sustain success in a
Speaker 3: music business. And I think that if you ask me
Speaker 3: what's more important. I say, the hard work is more important.
Speaker 3: But we live in an era where the talent is
Speaker 3: not even necessarily more point, it's about how.
Speaker 4: Much motion you have.
Speaker 3: If you got enough movement and traction around you as
Speaker 3: an artist, if people believe you, if people buy into you,
Speaker 3: they'll convince themselves that they like your music. And that's
Speaker 3: the difference. Now, if you have convinced them to love
Speaker 3: you and you make great music, it's an incredible win
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: So when we talk about business, you know, people say, oh,
Speaker 2: business is business, But like you said, how you do
Speaker 2: one thing is how you do everything.
Speaker 3: So do you.
Speaker 2: Go along. Do you think that a person can separate
Speaker 2: their actual personality from the business, you know, because people
Speaker 2: do a lot of shady shit in business, right, And
Speaker 2: though you'll say business is business, right, Yeah, I think,
Speaker 2: but that's you. That's how I feel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a.
Speaker 3: Whenever there's paperwork, whenever it is a huge conglomerate that
Speaker 3: has to earn, it has to make money off that
Speaker 3: like X's and o's, you have to understand that they
Speaker 3: are going to stick to the rule book. And when
Speaker 3: you go into a contract, you're making relationships with this president.
Speaker 3: You're making relationship with this A and R. And you
Speaker 3: believe that because this A and R told you that
Speaker 3: he believed in you or she believed in you, and
Speaker 3: they brought into your brand and they put their arm
Speaker 3: around you, and they fuck with you for a long time,
Speaker 3: and then things started to change and you weren't as
Speaker 3: productive and you weren't as financially lucrative as you once were.
Speaker 3: Then you believe that the portrayal was between them and you. No,
Speaker 3: what happens is they have a higher ups that they
Speaker 3: have to answer to. Even the CEO has to answer
Speaker 3: to somebody. Right, he's the chief executive operator. Right, he
Speaker 3: runs the machine. But they are boards and they are ownership.
Speaker 3: That says you have to answer to us, and you
Speaker 3: need to make sure that you're turning this around. So
Speaker 3: when you don't do what you need to do, you
Speaker 3: blame the inconsistency of the business. It's no love in
Speaker 3: the business. It's no love in industry. And the problem
Speaker 3: is that people think that the music business is any
Speaker 3: way different than any other business. Whenever you have legal
Speaker 3: and you have paperwork, you have people that have to
Speaker 3: be paid, and you have checks and balances, there will
Speaker 3: be a time where they're gonna ask who was productive
Speaker 3: and who was not, and if you were productive. I
Speaker 3: don't care how long this relationship has lasted. I don't
Speaker 3: care how cool you are. I don't care how much
Speaker 3: I love you, how you know my kids, and how
Speaker 3: we hung out, and how you at one point you
Speaker 3: were the king of this label. If you no longer earn,
Speaker 3: then our time together has to end. And that's with sports,
Speaker 3: that's in McDonald's, that's in anywhere. So I think that
Speaker 3: people have this idea that the music business is more
Speaker 3: shady or more about business, and business is business than
Speaker 3: any of the corporation or conglomerate. They all function in
Speaker 3: a way that says, if you are productive, you have
Speaker 3: a space here at the table.
Speaker 4: Now, We'll keep you.
Speaker 3: Around as long as we can until I have to
Speaker 3: answer to my higher upts to say, what's up, what's
Speaker 3: up with?
Speaker 4: What are we doing with this?
Speaker 3: Because every time they do a project, every time they
Speaker 3: go to the studio, we gotta pay for this. Every
Speaker 3: time they put out a song, we gotta pay them
Speaker 3: this because of the deal that we differ in back
Speaker 3: in the day that earns them certain amounts. It's costing
Speaker 3: us too much. We gotta get rid of it. So
Speaker 3: in a sense, people will say the business is shady,
Speaker 3: But every business that has to do with paperwork is
Speaker 3: going to go by what the paperwork says and they're
Speaker 3: going to honor that paperwork for as long as you
Speaker 3: are beneficial to them.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, everything in life is negotiable,
Speaker 2: so get a lawyer, you know, reade check.
Speaker 3: But even with that being said, everything is if you
Speaker 3: are productive, then you can change any contract. That's the
Speaker 3: crazy thing about the business. The lady God got first
Speaker 3: deal is not the same deal she did after album.
Speaker 3: Our first album came out and was extremely successful, she
Speaker 3: was able to say I want to do this, I'm
Speaker 3: not doing another record, and at the end of the
Speaker 3: day she's so successful that we have to come to
Speaker 3: the table. And that's how you have to look at it.
Speaker 3: So if you aren't successful, you have to understand it's
Speaker 3: the reverse that they're going to say, yeah, we know
Speaker 3: we did this paperwork, but we really kind of just
Speaker 3: want to seven times. It's costing us too much, So
Speaker 3: we have the right to get rid of the situation
Speaker 3: and walk away from the situation at any moment. Just
Speaker 3: like you should have the right to say, hey, I
Speaker 3: just sold thirty million albums, I would like to redo
Speaker 3: my entire deal in structure it differently, and I would
Speaker 3: like this person not to be involved.
Speaker 4: Y'all can pay them. I would like this person not
Speaker 4: to be involved. Y'all pay them off.
Speaker 3: I want to have so ownership and partnership between you,
Speaker 3: me and the label, and we'll and guess what, the
Speaker 3: record company will sit down and go see you. You
Speaker 3: could have discovered that. You could have came and brought
Speaker 3: it to the table or him the table and the
Speaker 3: rec company company and say, hey, here's a check.
Speaker 4: We're sorry.
Speaker 2: Stallion. I think is an example of that right because
Speaker 2: she did not. She wasn't trying to leave. Say he's
Speaker 2: speaking on that ship, I'll talk about it right cause
Speaker 2: she wasn't trying to leave five and one. She just
Speaker 2: wanted to renegotiate her contract. Like I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: Say this, she's I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say this about all things, all things in life. I
Speaker 3: don't care what a person has told you. I don't
Speaker 3: care what you heard and how emotional how they may
Speaker 3: have been when they said it. We only know their
Speaker 3: perspective in that point of view, and it wouldn't be
Speaker 3: fair for us to even give an idea of what
Speaker 3: happened based on one person's take on it.
Speaker 2: Now I'm talking about her contract, I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: the widow shit. But we don't have her contract either,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, signing with her Essentially.
Speaker 4: I can't speak on it. But what I can't say
Speaker 4: is I only.
Speaker 2: Know that she got an apology from that nigga.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you got to apologize.
Speaker 2: And what's the other rapper from Texas? She just left
Speaker 2: five and one as well, Erica.
Speaker 3: You know what's really unfortunate though, also is that there's
Speaker 3: situations where sometimes I've signed a lot of female artists
Speaker 3: and I haven't been able to break a female artist.
Speaker 3: And the problem is that no matter what I've invested
Speaker 3: into them, Like if you look on my page, anybody
Speaker 3: who followed me to know that I'll post my artists
Speaker 3: five hundred miles an hour, i will always promote and
Speaker 3: talk about my artists. I'll put everything I have into them,
Speaker 3: and when it doesn't work out, people forget all of
Speaker 3: those things that you've done. They only believe, only realize. Oh,
Speaker 3: it didn't work out, it must be Rico's fault, right, right. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: they never made a dollar for me in no way.
Speaker 3: All I've ever did was put into it and it
Speaker 3: never gave me a return on any of those situations.
Speaker 4: Right. So, regardless of whatever I've read comments from people
Speaker 4: that says Rico did this, and Rico did this, and
Speaker 4: Rico did this.
Speaker 3: So even when I look at a situation like, well, oh,
Speaker 3: didn't another girl quit or leave his label, or didn't
Speaker 3: another girl do this, I still only know that person's perspective,
Speaker 3: because when you are the boss, when you are at
Speaker 3: the top, it does not benefit you to go back
Speaker 3: and forth on social media with somebody, Oh, this is
Speaker 3: what really happened. It's not becoming of a boss. It's
Speaker 3: not becoming of a leader. This doesn't look cool. So
Speaker 3: a lot of times we have to allow, especially in
Speaker 3: this business. Sometimes for rant, sometimes the artists will go
Speaker 3: crazy and lose their mind on you, and sometimes you
Speaker 3: just have to allow it because as a boss, you
Speaker 3: can't be what it is just too much. So that
Speaker 3: person could be wrong, this person could be right, and
Speaker 3: vice versa. But I think that to assume that just
Speaker 3: because this person says something that has to be true,
Speaker 3: then that part of it, or just because this person
Speaker 3: didn't respond to it, that you saw a fit that
Speaker 3: it has to be true is not necessarily the truth.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I get that, you know, because I am tired
Speaker 2: of battling people's perspective nowadays.
Speaker 4: And over time, over time, everything, especially especially.
Speaker 2: Is the internet bit at this point, over.
Speaker 3: Time, regardless or whatever, the truth will come out or
Speaker 3: or things will play out, and people will see consistencies
Speaker 3: and the characters and they'll see it. They'll watch and
Speaker 3: notice some things, and I'm saying, oh, all right, this
Speaker 3: is starting to make sense.
Speaker 2: You know that thing?
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one question before we go to break.
Speaker 1: Give us your mount rushmore of r and b artists writers,
Speaker 1: But what however you want to throw it? Okay, Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson is number one period off the wall. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go with Stevie Wonder. Yes, And then you
Speaker 1: get two people.
Speaker 3: It's four I'm wrong with you, Yes, And then I
Speaker 3: gotta go Usher just because not just because he discovered me,
Speaker 3: but I just listened to his tone. I think this
Speaker 3: is the most incredible distinct tones in the history of music.
Speaker 3: And then you gotta go Beyonce because the only reason
Speaker 3: I can't say Prince is because I can consider Prince
Speaker 3: more rock R and B. So, but if we want
Speaker 3: to go straight R and B, I gotta go with Stevie, Mike, Usher,
Speaker 3: B because there are people from before my era, during
Speaker 3: my era, and you know, the ones that I think
Speaker 3: I patterned my love for music behind.
Speaker 4: I like, but I definitely Prince.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I love Prince, But I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: if I had to choose between Prince, Michael and Stevie,
Speaker 3: I think Prince was a way more well rounded artists
Speaker 3: and all genres. So if you gave me around rushmore
Speaker 3: music in general, then I would have to take out
Speaker 3: Usher and B. I would put Prince in that spot.
Speaker 3: But if you give me R and B, I got
Speaker 3: to go. I prefer these people because of sentimental value
Speaker 3: and reasoning also as well as iconic figures that they
Speaker 3: are and impact and the contributions they made to the
Speaker 3: R and B art form, And it's.
Speaker 2: You know, entirety absolutely, So one more question before we
Speaker 2: go to break, who is on your hit list? Like
Speaker 2: of people you haven't worked with yet and you want
Speaker 2: to work with.
Speaker 3: Wow, Rufus Wayne Wright is an incredible artist. I think
Speaker 3: you guys should look him up.
Speaker 4: His Uh.
Speaker 3: He had an album called want One that changed my life.
Speaker 3: I used to be extremely homophobic, as most people in
Speaker 3: our community were, and when I heard this record he
Speaker 3: wrote called Natasha.
Speaker 4: Where he was Rufus Rufus Waynwright.
Speaker 3: He has a song called Natasha and I interpreted him
Speaker 3: telling his girlfriend he was gay, and I just thought
Speaker 3: it was genius. So Rufus Wayne Wright is one of
Speaker 3: the guys I would love to work with. I definitely
Speaker 3: would love to do an entire project with Kanye West,
Speaker 3: like if Me and Ye could do Me Too project.
Speaker 2: Keep telling Yet, did y'all see him yesterday? Well, I
Speaker 2: don't know. He has this other page. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna show you right now, speak pages.
Speaker 3: Speaking of other pages and artists, let's always say Kendrick
Speaker 3: Lamar and I love his new account.
Speaker 4: What's they called it? The Burner?
Speaker 3: Yeah and so and then finally, Uh, I know that
Speaker 3: this is I would love to do an album with
Speaker 3: Usher and I've done a project for I've done a
Speaker 3: lot of his songs that I've britten up. It's one
Speaker 3: I got even new records getting ready to come out
Speaker 3: of him soon. But I would want to do a
Speaker 3: whole album with me and Usher, like, just let me
Speaker 3: executive produce the project.
Speaker 4: That would be my dream.
Speaker 2: Why you can't make that happen? That should be.
Speaker 4: Easy, right, It's not easy, but I would love for
Speaker 4: it to be.
Speaker 2: I should make that happen, all right, y'all. So it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be right to have somebody on we talk back
Speaker 2: named Recal Love and I talk about love because y'all
Speaker 2: know we love talking about relationships. I'm actually tired of it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, So this past week, I was having a
Speaker 2: conversation with a friend of mine and we started talking
Speaker 2: about unconditional love, right, and so I asked him is
Speaker 2: it possible for him? Does he think it's possible for
Speaker 2: him to love someone unconditionally? And he was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think, like he didn't know he was unsure, right,
Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, you know, the only person that
Speaker 2: I love unconditionally is me, right, because I'm always forgive myself.
Speaker 2: I'm always have empathy for myself. But sometimes people do
Speaker 2: things that are kind of unforgivable. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You like if I walk away, is that really displaying
Speaker 2: unconditional love? So how do you feel about unconditional love?
Speaker 3: Yes, because love is a feeling, because love is a mind,
Speaker 3: a space that you place somebody in your heart, in
Speaker 3: your mind. Then unconditional love it has to exist to me.
Speaker 3: And also because of my belief system, right, so, I
Speaker 3: believe in God, and I believe God and God in
Speaker 3: such a strong and reverence. I have such a reverence
Speaker 3: for him, right, and I understand that if love is God,
Speaker 3: then it's never ending, It's always present, it's always an
Speaker 3: existing thing. Now my actions behind how I allow this
Speaker 3: person to fit into my schedule, until my life, until
Speaker 3: my psyche, that's different. But the feeling I have for
Speaker 3: someone is unconditional, So meaning I never in the history
Speaker 3: of my life would go out of my way to
Speaker 3: hurt anyone. I never would try my best to target
Speaker 3: someone and say, let me figure out a way to
Speaker 3: get this person.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody ever consciously thinks that.
Speaker 3: But I can remove myself from anybody who who I
Speaker 3: don't feel like have my best interests in mine or
Speaker 3: if we don't feel like we're any longer compatible. But
Speaker 3: the love that I have for them will make it
Speaker 3: so that in any situation, I genuinely, from the bottom
Speaker 3: of my heart want what's best for them. So I
Speaker 3: don't think that unconditional love is unreasonable. Off it's task
Speaker 3: to ask for or or a thing to ask for.
Speaker 3: But I just think that to ask to somebody is
Speaker 3: always present in your life and always is the go
Speaker 3: to person for you when you need them, that part
Speaker 3: of it isn't reasonable. But when we think about love,
Speaker 3: even though love is an action, we also have to
Speaker 3: remember that love sometimes means that I love you enough
Speaker 3: to give you the space because if I love you right,
Speaker 3: but you are allowing me in my own mind because
Speaker 3: obviously we make our own choices, but you aren't allow
Speaker 3: me to be the best version of myself, then for
Speaker 3: the better of our relationship, I'd rather remove myself because
Speaker 3: sometimes you're removing yourself for a time can mean that
Speaker 3: you'll reconcile later in a time where I was able
Speaker 3: to heal.
Speaker 4: From some things, you was able to heal from some things.
Speaker 3: We can really participate in a relationship, friendship, whatever that
Speaker 3: is in a more mature space, but that love can
Speaker 3: never not exist. So that's why when I tell people
Speaker 3: people disagree with me strongly when I say that you
Speaker 3: can only be in love once. So a lot of
Speaker 3: people get angry when I say that. I don't know
Speaker 3: why they get angry, because that's just my perspective. But
Speaker 3: I always tell people I believe you can only be
Speaker 3: in love once. I believe that we are wrong about
Speaker 3: so many things already, No, but I just think that
Speaker 3: we can. We're in a space where so many things
Speaker 3: can be wrong. We can say we're wrong about so
Speaker 3: many things, but we refuse to acknowledge that maybe we
Speaker 3: were wrong about being in love with somebody, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 4: And absolutely, and I think that uh good, right.
Speaker 3: A lot of times spent with a person and you'll
Speaker 3: believe that that was my soulmate, And that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that that's not necessarily the truth. And what it can
Speaker 3: mean is that for that period it didn't work, and
Speaker 3: then it can work later.
Speaker 4: It can be that also.
Speaker 3: But I do believe that if it's only one person
Speaker 3: for me, how can I be in love with others?
Speaker 3: The way love works, in my mind is ongoing thing.
Speaker 3: It cannot turn off. You can't turn love off. So
Speaker 3: when I think about love, I think about God and
Speaker 3: I know that there are inconsistencies and everything that we do,
Speaker 3: but the one thing that has to be constant is
Speaker 3: our want for somebody to do well and to be
Speaker 3: the best version of themselves. There was an interview with
Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian said the other day, like, I want the
Speaker 3: old Kanye back, right, I want the old I want
Speaker 3: to I want to have that back. So what that
Speaker 3: tells me is that her love for him didn't change.
Speaker 4: She was in a situation.
Speaker 3: From her perspective, and I don't know both sides of
Speaker 3: the story, but from her perspective, what she's saying to me,
Speaker 3: in my opinion was this no longer worked for me
Speaker 3: when he was this way, and it was changed that happened.
Speaker 3: But if he was this way, we could still have
Speaker 3: worked it out. But for this, this was destroying me personally.
Speaker 3: So when I look at that, I realized.
Speaker 4: That their no, No, the condition is where she stayed.
Speaker 2: You're still gonna have boundaries with boundaries.
Speaker 4: And exactly she's her staying was the condition.
Speaker 3: Her love for this person is unconditional, because if I
Speaker 3: couldn't stay because of this, but if it was this way,
Speaker 3: I could stay.
Speaker 4: But the love didn't can't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's fair, and I think that
Speaker 3: sometimes we kind of like refused to really recognize, like when.
Speaker 4: People are like, I've been in love six times, how
Speaker 4: is that love? Don't work like that because you can
Speaker 4: be out of it. It's a covenant.
Speaker 2: So once you, I feel like being in love and
Speaker 2: loving someone is totally two different things, right, because being
Speaker 2: in love is a state of mind. So if you're
Speaker 2: in a relationship and you're not doing things to continuously
Speaker 2: fall in love with your person every single day, you're arguing, fussing, fighting,
Speaker 2: you like your draws on the floor, like you're going
Speaker 2: to be falling out of love, right, So I agree
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can fall out of love though.
Speaker 4: That's the thing that's only if you.
Speaker 1: I think saying there's a line between love and what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Is that you can believe that you were in love
Speaker 6: with this person at that time time, Which is why
Speaker 6: I agree with you when you said you only can
Speaker 6: be in loved one and.
Speaker 4: You can realize later that I was not in love
Speaker 4: with this person. So what happens is is.
Speaker 2: Usually when you get the new dig I could not
Speaker 2: have possibly loved that nigga, because I love this man.
Speaker 3: I just think that over time you'll realize, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this has run its course, and I felt like this
Speaker 3: was something, But over time I realized that I'm not
Speaker 3: willing to endure any of this that's going on with
Speaker 3: this person. So now sometimes you're not willing to endure
Speaker 3: those things with a person because they are hooked on
Speaker 3: drugs because they went to jail doesn't mean that that
Speaker 3: might not be the person that you were meant to
Speaker 3: be with. Sometimes you might end up with the person
Speaker 3: you weren't meant to be with and the person you
Speaker 3: were truly supposed to be with. Is the three relationships ago.
Speaker 3: I think that's very much possible. But I also know
Speaker 3: that if I say that I'm in love with someone
Speaker 3: and I really mean it in the true essence of
Speaker 3: what love means to me.
Speaker 4: To me, love is a covenant.
Speaker 3: Love is a covenant that is un You can't break
Speaker 3: this covenant because I correlate love with God. So the
Speaker 3: consistencies of who God is. And also I guess it's
Speaker 3: up for debate because some people don't believe in God
Speaker 3: in the way that I do. So that's why when
Speaker 3: people get frustrated with my perspective. I'm always kind of
Speaker 3: like puzzled because I'm like, this is my perspective.
Speaker 2: Do you believe in the internal God or the external God?
Speaker 2: Because the mine is internal?
Speaker 3: See, I believe that it doesn't. God is omnipresent, so
Speaker 3: his everything about who God is is internal. But we
Speaker 3: are God's work in the earth. So I am the
Speaker 3: external working of who God is and who God is
Speaker 3: in me. Right, So I do understand that that over time,
Speaker 3: things can reveal themselves to you and you realize I
Speaker 3: thought that this was this, but it wasn't, and that's okay.
Speaker 3: I was wrong about this thing. Doesn't mean I went
Speaker 3: bad for that person. That doesn't mean I regret the experience.
Speaker 3: But what I can realize is that this is what
Speaker 3: not what I thought it would be or what I
Speaker 3: wished it to be and what I tried to force
Speaker 3: it to be right. And I also believe that when
Speaker 3: you do find that thing and everything about you, everything
Speaker 3: you believe, everything you thought that you would never do,
Speaker 3: it'll trigger those things and it'll make you decide to
Speaker 3: do things that you know.
Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of shit lately. I don't
Speaker 2: never do like, what the fuck is happening? All right?
Speaker 1: So based on your definition, that means that you feel
Speaker 1: like most people have never been in love.
Speaker 4: I can't judge by most people. That's not my business.
Speaker 3: I'm telling business. My perspective is how I believe what
Speaker 3: I believe love to be. I do believe that people
Speaker 3: use the word loosely. I believe that people use most
Speaker 3: times loosely. I believe people call something amazing, that it's
Speaker 3: just okay, or they're brilliant.
Speaker 4: I just think that that's so.
Speaker 3: I think that I do believe that when it comes
Speaker 3: to being in love, people can become you know, I
Speaker 3: was in a space maybe a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: two years ago, where I was like everybody I was
Speaker 3: going out on a date with.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, oh wow, this could be it. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, because I thought that's what I wanted, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So then, unfairly, given a lot of maybe a few
Speaker 3: people too much time that I feel like, maybe I
Speaker 3: realized shortly after that it wasn't warranted.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So I think that we go through these phases in
Speaker 3: our lives where we think certain things. Who I am
Speaker 3: today is not who I was a year ago. Who
Speaker 3: I am today is not who it was five years ago,
Speaker 3: so I had to give myself space to grow and
Speaker 3: understand through those things. But I think love is the
Speaker 3: same way. The love is one of those things that
Speaker 3: you can't outgrow. You can grow to a different space
Speaker 3: than who you are. But it goes back to mood
Speaker 3: and character. Your character is one thing, and your mood
Speaker 3: is a different thing, and how you behave and how
Speaker 3: you respond to things should not be based on your
Speaker 3: mood and only be based on your character.
Speaker 4: And that's how love is.
Speaker 3: I respond to you based on how much I love
Speaker 3: you and how mad you upset you made me. And
Speaker 3: I think that when you realize what something with love
Speaker 3: truly is, then it's defining how to correct.
Speaker 4: Yourself in those senses. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And when I respond with love, I think more so
Speaker 3: about what's best for all parties involved, and not just
Speaker 3: how I feel in the moment.
Speaker 2: What I was about to say it was God is
Speaker 2: love right, But in the Bible it was a lot
Speaker 2: of ship God was doing in people right, a lot
Speaker 2: of wraths. Do you feel the wrath of God? Right?
Speaker 2: So it was always what do.
Speaker 4: You do to people.
Speaker 2: Cause destruction? God did cause destruction in the Bible to people.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, let me tell you.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what.
Speaker 4: So let me tell you. Everybody died.
Speaker 2: It wasn't everybody else.
Speaker 4: But again, it's all about perspective, right. God hates sin, right.
Speaker 2: But what sin sin? It is objective.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. It's all about perspective. Didn't
Speaker 4: under saying that, Yes, you did, So it's all about perspective.
Speaker 3: God hates sin. So God said to everybody. He said,
Speaker 3: to everybody, this is going to happen to this place.
Speaker 3: If you don't get right in this place, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: flood this place.
Speaker 2: I love the place. Say it to everybody. He told noa,
Speaker 2: no one told that.
Speaker 3: He told everybody. But that's how God speaks, right, But
Speaker 3: that's how he speaks Noah.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So so what you have to understand is Noah was saying,
Speaker 3: if you behave this way, if you're doing this, and
Speaker 3: a lot of times, and I think that's the reason
Speaker 3: why a lot of people blamed And it's a whole
Speaker 3: nother conversation. People blame Solomon and Moore the destruction of
Speaker 3: it on home seules, and it wasn't the case, they
Speaker 3: were all forms of perversions, bestiality, people having checked with children, animals,
Speaker 3: battylon if they talk about the exactly. But the point
Speaker 3: is he said, I'm going to bring wrath on this land.
Speaker 3: I'm going to destroy this place. This is what's about
Speaker 3: to happen. And Noah for over a hundred years, he said, everybody,
Speaker 3: get right, I'm telling you, he's about to destroy this place.
Speaker 3: He did not say I'm going to burn you, because
Speaker 3: if that was the case, he.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't have to do it. He could have just picked
Speaker 4: off people. That's not what he did.
Speaker 3: What he said was I'm going to destroy this place.
Speaker 3: And it was even a time where he said, don't
Speaker 3: even look back, don't turn back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is and even and I know
Speaker 4: a lot of people even look listen to that, who
Speaker 4: aren't you know, from where from that space and he
Speaker 4: think is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Even if you don't believe the stories are true, look
Speaker 3: at the examples of the times that we live in now.
Speaker 3: So even if you think that that sounds cool, fory,
Speaker 3: that sounds crazy, you have the right And I'm not
Speaker 3: going to argue that with you. What I will say is,
Speaker 3: if you look at the details of it, and you
Speaker 3: say that God never ever said I'm going to burn
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm going to do this.
Speaker 3: He said, get right, because I'm going to destroy this place,
Speaker 3: and if you're in it, that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm one with nature, right, So
Speaker 2: if somebody said I'm about to destroy this place, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm a part of this place. Especially if
Speaker 2: I'm outside somewhere in a park, like I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm a part of that place. If I'm swimming in ocean,
Speaker 2: I'm a part of that place.
Speaker 3: That's a perspective. But I also realize that wherever I
Speaker 3: am there is a place. So if this place does
Speaker 3: not exist, it's sentimental. If this place may have been
Speaker 3: to me, I will be another space. There will be
Speaker 3: another place if you if you know, if you understand
Speaker 3: who you are, and that as long as you exist
Speaker 3: in any place, that that is the place. And sometimes
Speaker 3: places and times in particular, places have to end. So
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be more attached to the forest or the
Speaker 3: river or the ocean that I am.
Speaker 4: To my own.
Speaker 2: Personally, I'm Pocahontas, though.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 2: Low homemade stupid.
Speaker 4: Do you want to get into our game?
Speaker 2: Before we get into the game, let's go to commercial
Speaker 2: right quick? All right, Rico, we want to get into
Speaker 2: a game we call trading places. Right. I know you
Speaker 2: see a thousand podcasts online it's always the man versus
Speaker 2: woman battle. So we want to ask you a series
Speaker 2: of questions. But it's you waking up tomorrow and being
Speaker 2: a woman for a week. Love. So first, are you
Speaker 2: paying for the first date as a woman?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, no, not at all, not at all. Okay, it's
Speaker 4: a good answer. See, I believe in gender rows.
Speaker 2: Yes, come on, man, what are we doing? Game over?
Speaker 2: Nothing needs else to be said?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Would you go fifty to fifty on rent or mortgage
Speaker 1: with your significant other?
Speaker 3: So I think that it's a man's responsibility and every
Speaker 3: I've only been in one major relationship where I've lived
Speaker 3: with a woman, but I've never ever had a woman
Speaker 3: contributed in any way.
Speaker 4: To any bills in that home.
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna be mad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I also don't believe that that's necessary. That's
Speaker 4: just my way of doing it.
Speaker 3: So when I look at anybody who does anything different,
Speaker 3: I always give that leave that up to them. And
Speaker 3: the decisions that they make. If the woman is okay,
Speaker 3: we've gone half with her man, then that's not my business,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Recently, And I think that
Speaker 3: the fact that people were in such an uproar about it,
Speaker 3: most women who were upset about it were mostly the
Speaker 3: ones who can't afford to go half on any rent anyway, right,
Speaker 3: So I think that to be upset about somebody else's
Speaker 3: situation that they are happy with it is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've never lived that way. But I also
Speaker 3: know that sometimes you might be in a situation in
Speaker 3: the bond.
Speaker 4: I'm in the bond. They think, sometimes you might be in.
Speaker 3: A situation where things are going good and they abruptly
Speaker 3: go bad. It would be amazing to have somebody there
Speaker 3: who can say, don't worry, you've been holding it down
Speaker 3: for all this time until you.
Speaker 4: Get back right at least landscaping.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, I get it.
Speaker 3: But I just think that it's incredible to have somebody
Speaker 3: who could be there to pick up some slack if
Speaker 3: need be. And I think that, I think in my
Speaker 3: heart that a woman who is in love with a
Speaker 3: man and really cares about him, if things go bad.
Speaker 3: I think she can't wait to help, she can't wait
Speaker 3: to jump in grateful, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: sometimes a woman might not be in a position to
Speaker 3: do so. So that's no shade to women who may
Speaker 3: not be in a position to do that. My mentor
Speaker 3: my mentor my daughter who's eight years old, I want
Speaker 3: a groom and build her up to be a woman
Speaker 3: who's self sufficient and who has everything, can handle herself
Speaker 3: and take care of solf. But I also know that
Speaker 3: she's in a relationship with a man, he's gonna have
Speaker 3: to take care of her because she's used to her
Speaker 3: father taking care of her. So in order for me
Speaker 3: to give her away in a sense, then I'm giving
Speaker 3: her away to somebody who's gonna take on the role
Speaker 3: that I have in her life. But I don't feel
Speaker 3: like it'll be a chore for him because his relationshipship.
Speaker 3: When I'm in a relationship, it's not a chore for
Speaker 3: me to do for the woman I'm in a relationship with.
Speaker 4: So even in the job of a man.
Speaker 3: I think my opinion is to make sure he takes
Speaker 3: care of the home in that particular way, and the
Speaker 3: job of a woman is to make sure she takes
Speaker 3: care of home in the way that she takes care
Speaker 3: of so I just think that I.
Speaker 4: Believe in those role.
Speaker 2: I saw a video the other day. It is very quick.
Speaker 2: It was an Asian guy Asian family getting married, and
Speaker 2: the woman was he was handing his daughter off, and
Speaker 2: he told the groom, if at any time you fall
Speaker 2: out of love with my daughter, please just bring her
Speaker 2: back to me. That's some art of warship because basically,
Speaker 2: to me, what he was saying is I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 4: I think I interpret that differently.
Speaker 3: I would say the same thing, because what it's saying
Speaker 3: is if you don't want to be here, then don't
Speaker 3: make my daughter suffer through you.
Speaker 2: Not bring her back.
Speaker 4: How about you bring her back to me and I'll
Speaker 4: be there for her with that unconditional love.
Speaker 3: I would prefer that you move on with your life
Speaker 3: and let me be the person, be the figure for
Speaker 3: her that I've always been. I've relinquished that duty and
Speaker 3: that title to you to have give it back to me,
Speaker 3: because I always take it back. I don't think it
Speaker 3: was anything malicious about that statement. It was like, we
Speaker 3: go through things and sometimes a man or woman can
Speaker 3: wake up one day and realize I don't want to
Speaker 3: be here anymore.
Speaker 4: So he's saying, don't treat it like shit, don't talk
Speaker 4: down to it.
Speaker 2: So they were never in love by your definition, we're
Speaker 2: never getting married.
Speaker 4: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I can't speak getting married.
Speaker 4: Are you getting on one knee as a woman and
Speaker 4: asking for a man's hand in marriage?
Speaker 2: No, you're so in love though, you know, and he
Speaker 2: hasn't asked for fifteen years. Middle part or side part
Speaker 2: as a woman?
Speaker 4: All right, it's down the middle.
Speaker 6: That's my thing.
Speaker 2: Bust out after y'all know.
Speaker 4: I like bangs.
Speaker 2: Bangs are back and style. I like bangs. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: be missing my forehead though sometimes you miss your when
Speaker 2: I get a bang? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you smashing on the first date?
Speaker 2: You only got a week as a woman now.
Speaker 4: I don't judge.
Speaker 3: I judge everything about the chemistry, right, So if you
Speaker 3: if it's in the moment and it feels good, then
Speaker 3: go for it. I wouldn't judge a person off of
Speaker 3: that because I know guys who hung out with a
Speaker 3: girl and they be like, man, I've been dealing with
Speaker 3: Shorty for months. I never and we haven't been able
Speaker 3: to do nothing then I know guys meet her hang
Speaker 3: out and they do it the first day because the
Speaker 3: connection is different. I don't judge a person by that though, right,
Speaker 3: I judge a person off of even when we're talking
Speaker 3: about bills and all that stuff. I believe in gender roles,
Speaker 3: but also believe in giving it time and having a true,
Speaker 3: genuine connection. I believe that if a person is expecting
Speaker 3: me to do something for them without me knowing them,
Speaker 3: if it's a prerequisite to us going on the date,
Speaker 3: is that I cash out her money for her babysitter.
Speaker 2: That's wild. That's a wild one because you don't have kids, Like,
Speaker 2: why these guys gotta pay for your baby?
Speaker 4: Like it? Yes, but it's certain scenarios I've had. I've
Speaker 4: had a person.
Speaker 3: I invited a person out to hang out with me
Speaker 3: and they asked me to send them money for outfits.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm responsible for your first impression. Like, imagine
Speaker 3: if you've told somebody you're responsible, that's my first The
Speaker 3: first impression I'm going to have is how you look,
Speaker 3: how you dress, how you whatever, everything is exactly. You're
Speaker 3: telling me that I'm not only responsible for getting you there,
Speaker 3: feeding you, clothing, you want me to clothe you and
Speaker 3: style you for to make the first impression. So I
Speaker 3: think that a lot of times they are requirements that
Speaker 3: were based upon the relationship. If the relationship is to
Speaker 3: the point where a man is all right, if there's
Speaker 3: a level of convenience.
Speaker 4: Money is only for convenience, in my opinion.
Speaker 3: And if I say to a person I want to
Speaker 3: see you and they say, well, I can't see you
Speaker 3: because this is in my way. If a man has
Speaker 3: means and he wants to see her bad enough, then
Speaker 3: he should if he would like to get rid of
Speaker 3: that hurdle, right, and if that means that means a
Speaker 3: monetary thing, I'm gonna get rid of that because I
Speaker 3: want to see you this much.
Speaker 4: Now. If a person says, hey, I really want to
Speaker 4: see you.
Speaker 1: I'm married, get rid of her husband.
Speaker 2: No Columbia next time.
Speaker 3: If a person is like, hey, let's hang out. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: let's hang out. Oh well I would I can't because
Speaker 3: I gotta pay this bill. And it's like, well, we
Speaker 3: don't need to hang out, Like why, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that serious. But if it's like
Speaker 3: I really want to see this person, every time I
Speaker 3: try to see a ship. This thing is in a way,
Speaker 3: this thing is away, this thing is away.
Speaker 4: Let me try to get rid of so I can
Speaker 4: get close to her, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: You woke up pregnant this morning, okay from one night standing?
Speaker 2: What you're doing?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I know. I love the babies. Depends
Speaker 4: on what it depends on my financial situation as a woman.
Speaker 4: I think everything should be based on what you could
Speaker 4: actually do for your child. That's it.
Speaker 3: So if I personally as a woman, would be able
Speaker 3: to take care of my child on my own, then
Speaker 3: I will keep the child. If I if I'm saying
Speaker 3: I'm going to depend on this person who is a
Speaker 3: stranger to me what I don't know, then that's added
Speaker 3: extra pressure to me into my life, fighting with this
Speaker 3: person to take care of a child that they potentially
Speaker 3: might not want to or might not have the bravery,
Speaker 3: or might be a coward or might you know.
Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't take that responsibility.
Speaker 3: So what I would do is if I had the
Speaker 3: financial means to take care of the baby independent of
Speaker 3: anybody else, then I'm keeping a baby.
Speaker 4: If not, then I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Y'all heard, hum Rica, No hold on, I got one
Speaker 2: more question because this is like, I feel like this
Speaker 2: is a scapegoat type thing men do. So at any
Speaker 2: given moment, you're asked what you want to eat? Do
Speaker 2: you know what you want to eat? What you're eating, y'all?
Speaker 2: Do I want to eat what you're eating right now?
Speaker 2: You're hungry? What you want to eat?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I want to eat some steak and shrimp.
Speaker 2: Where you want to go at?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Because that's the thing men always say, women on them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all put it off on us because
Speaker 2: y'all don't never know what y'all want to eat.
Speaker 3: What's crazy about men, know, is men think about where
Speaker 3: they're going to eat two days in advance.
Speaker 2: That is not true because they get to the menu
Speaker 2: and be mad because there's nothing they like that.
Speaker 3: Flying back to Miami tonight, I'm not gonna eat this
Speaker 3: late tonight. But let's say I was flying back in
Speaker 3: the afternoon, I already have in my mind what I
Speaker 3: want to eat when I get home.
Speaker 4: I'm already thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Yesterday I was I was thinking about, Yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to go when I'm here, I always go to the watermen.
Speaker 3: So I'm always thinking, when I get to Charlotte, I'm
Speaker 3: going to the watermen, Like that's I'm going to stake
Speaker 3: forty eight. That's just what I know what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do with my mind. I'm already mentally preparing myself. But
Speaker 3: when I get to Charlotte, I'm going here. When I
Speaker 3: go to Vegas, when I go to La there places
Speaker 3: that I love to go to, And I'm saying, when
Speaker 3: I get there, I can't wait because I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 3: So men already prepare these things in their mind beforehand.
Speaker 2: I don't think. So I'm talking about a cohabitation situation
Speaker 2: or a date, you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 2: hitting me up asking me what I want to eat,
Speaker 2: and you're mad because I don't know right now, But
Speaker 2: what do you want to eat? I don't know. When
Speaker 2: you get there, you see the menu, you don't like it.
Speaker 2: Once I pick a place that's happened to me a
Speaker 2: thousand times, I feel like like this is what I wanted.
Speaker 3: And especially now because I'm eating a certain way, I
Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm going to eat forty which I'm
Speaker 3: gonna eat, so it's easy for me but I can't
Speaker 3: speak for nobody else.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can tell this is.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I like hugs, y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're going to get into our final segment.
Speaker 1: I talked to you about it a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: Do you have your story ready for our SIMP series?
Speaker 4: SIMP series? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have some SIMP stories.
Speaker 4: Real easy way to.
Speaker 2: Say this, and simps are necessary, y'all. Okay, don't get
Speaker 2: us wrong.
Speaker 3: I was in a situation where, uh, a woman asked
Speaker 3: me to help her out of a situation and really
Speaker 3: look out for her.
Speaker 4: And then so I did. I sent I sent her
Speaker 4: some some funds to take care of a situation. And
Speaker 4: she was in a barn and I looked out. And then.
Speaker 3: The following week, I'm like, yo, let's hang out. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll be there. And then she told me, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: coming in. And she called me a little while before
Speaker 3: and said I gotta leave town. I gotta leave town.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm like, oh, she gonna make it.
Speaker 3: She renigged on it. And then I decided to go
Speaker 3: a different place instead of going to where I said
Speaker 3: I was gonna go. She was there with some with
Speaker 3: some very cool rappers that I actually like.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: And it was awkward because they recognized me and they're
Speaker 3: like yo, and I'm like, hi, guys, I bought her outfit.
Speaker 4: Nice linking can I said with you, guys, I contributed
Speaker 4: in some way to this outing some same ship ship.
Speaker 2: So what does she say for?
Speaker 4: Nothing? Not a word? Act like she didn't see me.
Speaker 2: What how much money was it? Can you share?
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna share, man.
Speaker 2: How much money was it?
Speaker 5: Was?
Speaker 2: It like over ten grand?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Fuck?
Speaker 2: No, okay, afford it? I'm bitch, Why you disappear?
Speaker 5: It was?
Speaker 4: It was It was a little bit of b It wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't those pennies.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, like you never spoke to her ever again
Speaker 1: in my life.
Speaker 2: Damn bird brings no no, no, no, the girl the
Speaker 2: bird you know, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was crazy because you know, you think
Speaker 3: about it, and these guys were, you know, on the
Speaker 3: top of the world at the time, and I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I was in a I was in a breakup, right,
Speaker 3: So I wasn't totally I was single at the time,
Speaker 3: but like in a breakup single, Yeah, a few months
Speaker 3: you just kind of like you're single, You're moving around.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, oh, ship, I'm gonna go hang
Speaker 3: out with Shorty. I'm gonna do this and then and
Speaker 3: a lot of times people get back in relationships because
Speaker 3: of moments like that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Should have sent you home, like, ain't nothing out here, man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it my bench.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you it was the Migos.
Speaker 2: Oh hell no, she played.
Speaker 4: Like, but I say this, I'm saying it was the
Speaker 4: beginning of their career, believe it or not.
Speaker 3: When Migos first came out, they was on fire with
Speaker 3: Basachi and then I did a song called they Don't Know,
Speaker 3: and Migos wrapped on them.
Speaker 4: They remixed they Don't Know.
Speaker 3: So they was already like I'm not gonna say fans
Speaker 3: of me, but I just think they respected my work
Speaker 3: and like so they had their remix and then they
Speaker 3: started really buzzing. So you know, I was in that
Speaker 3: playboy mode ifew you know, you singing for a little while.
Speaker 4: You're like, I'm about to be outside real quick.
Speaker 3: So I meet the Shorty and she like yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm like I really need some help with this, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, cool, I send it a little bread
Speaker 3: and then she's like, we're supposed to link up that night,
Speaker 3: and she curved me. So I'm thinking she probably thinking
Speaker 3: he's not gonna come over and he's not going to this,
Speaker 3: because I probably.
Speaker 4: Usually wouldn't have. I was like, let me just pull
Speaker 4: up to this and I see them.
Speaker 1: That was God because she would have still been taking
Speaker 1: money for you right now.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't have still been taking money. I'm not gonna get.
Speaker 2: Probably wasn't she Probably only I'm talking to you because
Speaker 2: you saw her with the finesse. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She would have still been coming out. I consider it
Speaker 4: to be my decision because I would have never spoke
Speaker 4: to her again. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Had you not seen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then she could have still been to be finessed right, Yes,
Speaker 5: bi weekly like she didn't like she ain't.
Speaker 4: Give a fuck. She didn't send me a text on
Speaker 4: SOT nothing. What's good.
Speaker 2: I don't play with people like that. What happened? What happened?
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's awful. Maybe she listens to the show.
Speaker 4: If you do, you really reco an apology?
Speaker 2: Oh his money bag? Fun that apology? Pay me right?
Speaker 4: What a sympo?
Speaker 2: No, sim's unnecessary. Dumb bitches are also necessary. Man, they
Speaker 2: are because it's not like it's a bad thing. I
Speaker 2: think men call other men sims. Women really don't use
Speaker 2: the term like that, Like we will call a woman
Speaker 2: a dumb bitch, right, I.
Speaker 4: Think y'all kind of see niggas a simps sometimes, but we.
Speaker 2: Don't see what I'm saying, Like we see a lick.
Speaker 2: Absolutely some of them have on their forehead.
Speaker 4: I was, Oh my god, got licked next to them
Speaker 4: in your phone.
Speaker 2: I've never.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: But we all are corny to somebody, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? It looks cool somebody somebody that you know.
Speaker 4: Is that that what you something like? I accept that.
Speaker 4: I try to be as cool as I possibly.
Speaker 2: Can, But I know myself.
Speaker 1: I think it's necessary to get played to be well rounded, though, Right,
Speaker 1: you gotta take a l sometimes so you can be humble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably played somebody, So it's coming back around Jesus.
Speaker 2: But I'm Karma. I do the coming around, all right, y'all.
Speaker 2: I do the coming around. Yeah, this is a good episode,
Speaker 2: a great good interview.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, tell everybody was next where they can
Speaker 1: find you?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I really want to obviously songwriters my passion.
Speaker 3: I'm a passionate father, So I'm in a men's group
Speaker 3: for dads, you know what I mean, So the dads
Speaker 3: can come together. It's like a network where we can
Speaker 3: kind of communicate and we can exchange energy and advice
Speaker 3: and how we can uplift and build each other in
Speaker 3: our communities. And what we're gonna do is in each meeting,
Speaker 3: we raise money for one father who may be in
Speaker 3: need of something specific to help do something great with
Speaker 3: his kids. So we're going to be creating that in
Speaker 3: it's called because I'm a Dad, and that's gonna really soon.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be rolling that out. Also, the reco Love
Speaker 3: webinars that we we Love Music conference that I do
Speaker 3: around the world teaching about songwriting and production. That's something
Speaker 3: I'm super passionate about and building it my multimedia group
Speaker 3: where I'm able to develop not just artists and writers,
Speaker 3: but also actors and poets and you know, creatives in
Speaker 3: all art forms, finding finding spaces for them to exist
Speaker 3: and express themselves without the burden of the financial, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, burdens that people have and they're trying to
Speaker 3: making the business. So that's more My passion is making
Speaker 3: sure that we can pour back into creatives and put
Speaker 3: back into our community of creatives. You had a nonprofit,
Speaker 3: so it's it's essentially a for profit business though, because
Speaker 3: we want to be able to have avenues to where
Speaker 3: after they receive funds and they do well, then there's
Speaker 3: a commission that they paid back.
Speaker 2: I guess I was referencing the thing for or the Dads.
Speaker 3: Will be nonprofit. Yeah, sure, yes, but the multimedia company
Speaker 3: will kind of develop acts. We want to make sure
Speaker 3: that we can help give them resources and then the company.
Speaker 4: Can earn off of.
Speaker 2: That's super cool.
Speaker 3: Doing the music for a new TV show called Black Hamptons.
Speaker 3: This is the season two of the Black Hampton's on BT,
Speaker 3: so I'm the music supervisors for them. We did I
Speaker 3: did the first season and now I'm working on the
Speaker 3: second season. I'm super excited about that. I'm super excited
Speaker 3: about Usher's new album.
Speaker 2: Just really a new album coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice, excited babies babies coming. I just was
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 3: He played me to like every song, because you know,
Speaker 3: I did the songs that I've done, but we took
Speaker 3: a car ride and he just played me everything and
Speaker 3: it was exceptional. It is an exceptional body of work.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for the world to hear that. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I just had a success with Romeo Santos and Justin
Speaker 3: Timberlake with Sin Finn. Anybody who's familiar with Latin but
Speaker 3: shot the music number one.
Speaker 4: But chat the song in the world.
Speaker 3: So excited about that and excited about the work we're
Speaker 3: doing with the BMC, the Black Music Collective. I'm the
Speaker 3: chairman of the BMC, which is a subsidiary of the Grammys.
Speaker 3: We created something dei effort where we kind of like
Speaker 3: making sure that we hold feet to the fire, make
Speaker 3: sure that black people, women and people of color represented
Speaker 3: properly inside the Recording Academy. Last year a Recording Academy
Speaker 3: Honors Award show, we honored Lol Wayne, Sylvia Own, Missy Elliott,
Speaker 3: and doctor Dre. This year, we're cooking up some exceptional
Speaker 3: for the Grammy for Grammy Week, and we're doing some
Speaker 3: amazing events around the country around building awareness to black
Speaker 3: creatives on what was available for them.
Speaker 2: And I missed that in your introduction, y'all. This is
Speaker 2: Grammy nominated recal love also and.
Speaker 3: Also also I'm helping Music Cares with this hip Hop
Speaker 3: initiative we're doing for the next three years, we're gonna
Speaker 3: be funding and helping a lot of hip hop artists.
Speaker 4: So if you are hip hop artists and.
Speaker 3: You need help, you need money, and you need a
Speaker 3: roof for your house, you need your teeth fixing, you
Speaker 3: don't have the funds for that, come to music Cares
Speaker 3: you submit and.
Speaker 2: Fix the current the existing ones first or y'all.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but yeah, the teath that you have, now,
Speaker 4: let's make sure we got those more.
Speaker 3: But if it's a lot of things that we're doing,
Speaker 3: and it's a lot of philanthropic work, but also also
Speaker 3: a lot of entrepreneurial work that I'm really focusing dedicating
Speaker 3: myself on. And I created the Love Foundation where I
Speaker 3: were doing these recordings at my house. I created it
Speaker 3: because I keep my kids seven days on and seven
Speaker 3: days off. So when I'm with my kids, I was
Speaker 3: finding that I was spending a lot of time picking
Speaker 3: my daughter up from school, picking myself up from school,
Speaker 3: see them for a hour, go to the studio, come back,
Speaker 3: they sleep, I wake up.
Speaker 4: I take a miver.
Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't see them.
Speaker 3: So what I started doing was I started recording in
Speaker 3: my home and setting up the cameras and doing these sessions,
Speaker 3: inviting people over, and we've been making great records and
Speaker 3: I'm able to have my kids come in and out.
Speaker 3: So it's called the Love Foundation, and we just make
Speaker 3: really dope records. And we've been documenting, documenting the process,
Speaker 3: and we're going to make it into like this little series.
Speaker 2: Well you're busy. I know, I'm not doing enough out here.
Speaker 6: Apparently you got we like to lay down, got to
Speaker 6: do as much as possible to make sure some stick.
Speaker 2: I know, man, I gotta get better at that. When
Speaker 2: I hear people like that was a nice little rant
Speaker 2: about all the things like am I not doing enough?
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn. After I leave here, I was going
Speaker 2: to sleep. Just go ahead and plan for tomorrow, matter
Speaker 2: of fact, because that's the way what would rical Love do?
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Speaker 2: Remember to speak now and never hold your peace Jesus