1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Talk talk to We're just two unapologetically black women with 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: an opinion to talks. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: What's up y'all? Thank you for tending that for a 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: new episode that we talked back A show dedicated to 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: you dreamers and chasers and everybody else in between. This 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: is your co hosts a j holiday What's Up Town. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: And this is dedicated to you, hosing you niggas too, 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: because we forgot about y'all. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: I love all of y'all, this special group. Hey, ye, 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: what's so child? What you got going on? 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: Girl? 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that this weekend is over. I 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: felt overwhelmed with life, so yeah, celebrating that white Man's holiday, 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I didn't celebrate. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: I stayed in the house. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: I was. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I was on my porch watching all the madness downstairs, 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: because you know, it was just madness going on. And 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: my friend was on the phone, one of my guy friends, 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: and he was like, you just look down there like 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: an auntie, just staring at them kids down there, like. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: Like Blue Ivy in New Orleans. Remember that that video 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: of Blue Ivy looking down at all the peasants, the 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: people out there cutting up like ill. I didn't do 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: much this weekend either, just hung out, played the house 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: a little bit. That's about it. Chilled out. I ain't 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: even had like no barbecuing or nothing, which I don't 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: really eat. People should have to bring my own salmon 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: to people barbecues nowadays. 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: Baby, I ordered. I didn't even go to nobody's barbecue. 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I just ordered something from a restaurant. Like, fuck it. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: I saw a fucking tweet that said, this generation don't 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: even cook out no more. All they do is do 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: drugs and torqu. 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Right, that's it, shake the ass and do drugs. 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: My family actually did had a bit have a big 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: ass cookout back at home, but I missed that. I 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: wasn't in town at my family's restaurant. Shout out to 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Bertha's Kitchen in Charleston, South Carolina. 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: My my mom and my sister was at you know, 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: at home, and they lit the grill and then cut 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: that motherfucker off and went and bought an indoor grill 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: and grill in the house. It's like it's too high. 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: Girl, Okay, So why An article came out saying that 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: fourth of July twenty twenty three was the hottest day 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: in history for the planet, just like average heat for 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: the whole world yesterday. Well, excuse me, July fourth was 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: the hottest day for planet Earth. And I believe it 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: because bitch I could see the heat. 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: I didn't. 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even go out in it. I was looking 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: for my patio and anytime I felt overwhelmed with the heat, 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: I just ran back inside. Baby, I didn't do nothing. 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this type of heat, you gotta wash a 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: couple of times. Beink just be smelling like outside all 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: day long. 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Just stay down here, big mama, y'all. 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Today we have a special guest. When we talked back, y'all, 59 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: he is uh responsible for a lot of our favorite 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: songs like Sweet Dreams, Beyonce, Good Morning with Diddy. Uh, 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: there goes my thing. Okay, I'm auditioning. Also, I'm sorry, 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: so I might be whistling and singing a lots okay, 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: and twork city girls. I just found that out the hell, y'all, 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: we have mister Rico love or we talked back, were good, all. 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Right, it's too hot, it's getting too high. 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: It was good in this in this on this level though. 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you. 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Feel about the setup. It's nice, right, you know, maybe 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: you can get on after we finished little something for it. Yeah, 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: that'll be dope. 71 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: I don't think we got no sticks. 72 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hit it with your hands. 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that. So okay, Rico, let's get into it. 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: So our listener, we want them to get to know 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: you a little bit. Tell us how you started Turn 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: the Lights On? 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: How Turn the Lights On came about? Yeah, Well, a 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: friend of mine, Ma'am's Taylor. He was a co owner 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 3: of this club in La called Area. So we stay 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: hang out in this spot like every weekend. When I 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: say like, it would be like Lindsay Lohan, Kim Kardashian, 82 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: you know, Paris Hill, and this was like a Wednesday 83 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: night was the party, but we would come and go 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: frequently because he was one of the owners. 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 4: So there was a DJ and then those type of clubs. 86 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: The DJs played the same kind of set list every night, 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: and they played a song by Pink Floyd Caught the Wall, and. 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: Then in the song they say, hey, teacher, lead those 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: kids alone, and all the lights would go crazy in 90 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: the club. 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: So I would say, like, every time that part would 92 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: build up, I would say, turn the lights on, like 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: to myself. So one day I was in a studio 94 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: and I always a climactic part of the record, every 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: time it builds up and right before the drop, I 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: would just say turn the lights on. And my good 97 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: friend Mams Taylor, he was like, you should say that 98 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: in all the songs you write. 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: That should be your thing. 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: So I started doing it, and at that time, top 101 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: liners and just anybody who's not educated on educator how 102 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: music work. So, a producer is a songwriter, lyric and 103 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: melody person is a songwriter. We're all called songwriters, but 104 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: they are top line, which is lyric and melody. That's 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: the guy who writes the lyrics and words and melody. 106 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: And there's a producer, guys who historically has been known 107 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: to produce the music. He's considered the producer, even though 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: the top line guy could also be the producer. Now, 109 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: when I was coming up in the business, the top 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: liner didn't get the recognition. It was always the guy 111 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: who made the beat. 112 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: I e. 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: Timberland, Rodney Jerkins, Pharrell, you know those guys who made 114 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: the tracks. So to give attention to people like myself 115 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: who were writing a lyric and melody, I started doing 116 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 3: my tags on every song that I wrote and putting 117 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: the turn of lights on records, and that's how it came. 118 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: About and it became a thing or everybody does it now. 119 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: Everybody does it now. Yeah, And a lot of people 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: credit it to hearing me doing it early on, and 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: a lot of people just feel like this is just 122 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: a new wave and either way is great because we 123 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: all that's our calling card. We're only as good as 124 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: the last thing we've done. And to make sure that 125 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: our name makes noise in the marketplace, we have to 126 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: establish and brand ourselves. 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 4: That's super important. 128 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Wow, see how you're I thought the whole time, y'all 129 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: was just like he want to fuck with the light song? 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: And that's what I think. That's when people started doing 131 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's what I did. I was like, go ahead, nigga, 132 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: turn the lights on. 133 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: You said, do that ship. That's a that's a good 134 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: way to look at it too. 135 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: All. 136 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: Talk about your creative process, because write in these beautiful songs. 137 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: There goes my baby, Like it's so like eloquent and 138 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: thought provoking, Like how what is your creative process to 139 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: make these songs that everybody jams too? 140 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: You know, I just I think, first and foremost I'm 141 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: a fan of really great songwriting. You know from the 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: Beatles to Stevie to you know, def Lepper to you 143 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: know Mariah Carey and Janet and all those classic iconic songs. 144 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: So what I think my process is more than anything, 145 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: is understanding of chord progression. I think a piano progression 146 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: or a guitar progression, those four chords. I think there's 147 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: so many different melodies live inside of those chords. So 148 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: my process is usually sitting at a piano singinge at 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: the guitar and I don't play instruments, but sitting with 150 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: a piano player, sitting with a guitar player and going 151 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: through a chord progression and the one that sticks, I 152 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: try to make a melody fit inside of that progression. 153 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: And that's usually how I create. It's kind of like 154 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: building it around the actual song. The reason why is 155 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: when the song is stripped and it's just the lyric 156 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: and the guitar lyric and the piano, then you know 157 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: the full essence and you can feel the melody, and 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: you can feel the richest and the wholesomeness of the melody. 159 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: And when you have a rich, wholesome melody, you can 160 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: build music around anything. But you can't you can't make 161 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: a shit song sound great. But what you can do 162 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: is you can make a great song sound greater when 163 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: you put incredible production around the song. So I want 164 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: to make sure that if you strip all of my songs, 165 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: it still feels good without music, the lyric and the 166 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: melody stand alone. 167 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: So I listen to Apple. I usually stream my music 168 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: on Apple right, and anytime like I'm listening to a 169 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: new song or maybe like a song I hadn't heard 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: in a long time, I always go to the lyrics. 171 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: Who the fuck wrote this is? I feel when I 172 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: hear certain things in the song, like who wrote this? 173 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Also taking consideration for a sample or interpolation, that person 174 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: is credited. So a lot of times when you see 175 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: like ten fifteen names is because if they sample more money, 176 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: more problems by Diddy and Mache and Biggie right, they 177 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: sampled that that not only did mais Diddy a memo 178 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: or cVj or whoever. 179 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: Made the beat and Biggie. 180 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: Not only are they sample or they credit, but the 181 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: people that they sample from them are credited. And then 182 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: if they sampled somebody where they sample from. So a 183 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: lot of times you see all these names and they'll 184 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: be like, oh, such and such. Got all these people 185 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 3: writing a song, you know, it's the sample that's everybody this, 186 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: but they deserve the credit because their contribution to the 187 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: original record made the song with it is. So when 188 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: you look at that, a lot of times it's that myself. 189 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: I'm what they call one hundred percenter or a fifty percent, 190 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: So I write majority of every record I've ever written, 191 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: I written. 192 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: By myself as well. 193 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: There are no no disrespect to people who collaborate, But 194 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 3: my process was always kind of so fast that I 195 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: wrote a lot of my hit records alone, so you 196 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: would only see my name and maybe a Jim Johnson 197 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: or a Danger or and sometimes the artists will get 198 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: publishing on the record. That's the real estate, and they 199 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 3: own that real estate. So to pay attacks sometimes you 200 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: have to give a piece of the publishing to the artists, 201 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: which is fair business, and so you'll see their name. 202 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: But for the most part, I kind of like try 203 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: to stay away from the heavy samples, you know what 204 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: I mean. 205 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: On some records I had. 206 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: Thrown back was a heavy sample. There a lot of 207 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: people original. 208 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Warwick put me back like yeah, that was 209 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: my first first song I wrote, So that was that's amazing. 210 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: That was a heavy sample song. 211 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: But uh, and they took fifty percent of that record too, Yeah, 212 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: so which to you know, they deserve it. That that 213 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: production and that riff and that transition and the progression. 214 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: It was just timeless and it just it made for us. 215 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: It made it very easy for me. 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: To write the song. 217 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: So, okay, a song like there Goes My Baby was 218 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: like a fat ass walking by your girlfriend, Like at 219 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: the time, walking by. 220 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: With no draws on you was like the head goes 221 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: lines like how does it? 222 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: How does like how do the thoughts come to you? 223 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 2: Is it something like that? 224 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: Or oh? 225 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: I was really it was I had just suffered a 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: really crazy tragedy in my life, to be totally honest, 227 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: and I went straight to the studio the next day. 228 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: So when I was writing the record, honestly, it was 229 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: an idea about this girl is the most beautiful girl 230 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: in the world, and I didn't realize it until just 231 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: this moment, and she's taking forever to get ready. I'm 232 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: sitting at the edge of the bed and I look 233 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: and I see this girl and I'm like, oh my god, 234 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: there goes my baby. So forgetting you, No, no, really, 235 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 3: you know you're sitting it funny, but a lot of 236 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: times men will forget what they have or the quality 237 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: of the women. 238 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: That they have. 239 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: So sometimes familiar, yeah, you get really and in all things, right, 240 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: don't we get familiar with? You know, in business we 241 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: get familiar with and friendships and relationships and all these things. 242 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: So the idea of the song is for a guy 243 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: to just kind of sit back and reflect. 244 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: Like, oh shit, my shorty is bad. You know what 245 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 4: I mean? 246 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: Girl, look at you. So I wanted to create a 247 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: moment that it has so many different meanings but just 248 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: felt so good. Like the gold for every song is 249 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: to make sure it just feels good to people and 250 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: they can interpret it anyway they want. 251 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: And even when they listen to it now. 252 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: I bet when people listen to it now, when he says, 253 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: bet you ain't know what, I'll be checking you out. 254 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: When you be putting your heels on. 255 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: I love that song. 256 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: It's so perfect baby, how you work it baby, Like 257 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: he's like, wow, I love the way that you be 258 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: poking it out. 259 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: Give me somebody. It's like he's paying attention to her 260 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: now in this moment, you know. 261 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: And then also a little nugget was that I was 262 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: a huge fan of Usher and Chili dynamic. 263 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: Everybody, when you're listening. 264 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: To the second verse, I said, I get the chills 265 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: whenever I see your face and you in the place, 266 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a movie. 267 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: Baby. I'm like, ooh wee, baby, like water falls, your 268 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: hair falls down to your waist. 269 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: Can I get a taste? No need to creep, because baby, 270 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: I ain't a shame my coring there. I was naming 271 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: TC songs. 272 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: You was getting him some. 273 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: Everybody else. 274 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: I was trying to drop the nuggets in there to like, 275 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to hint at this idea him and Chili. 276 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 3: I always thought that that was an incredible pairing. And 277 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: and I love Jen, you know, I was just current 278 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: girlfriend and I think she's amazing. But at that point 279 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: in my life, I was so young and I was 280 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: so enamored. 281 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: With you, and everybody wanted Chili, right yeah, and. 282 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: Chili is just such a you know, and beautiful. So 283 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I just kind of threw that nugget in there. A 284 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: lot of people may miss that, but when they listen, 285 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: when you listen to that, my baby, listen that second verse. 286 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,239 Speaker 3: I definitely had Chili in my nice. 287 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I got a question. 288 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Because it's a lot of niggas out here making beautiful 289 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: music for Facebook and SoundCloud and that's it, right, and 290 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: then it never goes nowhere. How did you get into 291 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: a place where everybody is like one, let me get 292 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: Rico love on it. Let me get Rico love on it. 293 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: First of all, blessed enough and fortunate enough to have 294 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: existed before social media, so which is an incredible asset 295 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: and a credible tool to so many creatives, but it 296 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: also widens. It doesn't see. The door to go through 297 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: to make it is the same size. It's just the 298 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: access to get to that door. It's easier. 299 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. 300 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: What I mean by that is there are one hundred 301 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand songs uploaded every day to Spotify. So 302 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: what that means is we're going down one door, one corridor. 303 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: But it's just the directions to get there is a 304 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: lot easier. Whereas back in the day, you had to 305 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: know somebody, you had to perform, you have to be 306 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: super talented. People had to see something special in you. 307 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: They had a team that would cultivate and develop it. 308 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Now it's like develop it at home. Do it yourself, 309 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 3: put it out. If it sticks, we want to give 310 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: you money for it. So in that sense, the business 311 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: is a lot more difficult, but in another sense it's 312 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 3: a lot easier because you can upload something, put it out, 313 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: if it connects, if you build an audience, you can 314 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: gain revenue from it, you can build a following, you 315 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: can potentially get it will make a lot of next thing. 316 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, you outside and stay singing. 317 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: But booty brown whatever you know, girl don't do sexy 318 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: in you know, hold on my boy, excuse me my 319 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: booty whole brown. That's wild. 320 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: It's funny because I don't go out a lot. But 321 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: I went out a few weeks ago and I saw 322 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: gods singing it, and I. 323 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: Was like, you saw dove all weekend this past weekend. 324 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: You've all had his? Uh the guys was somebody comment 325 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: and was like, I swore I just heard somebody say 326 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: ski we. 327 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: Man just the way of the world. 328 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: So that was actually one of my questions though, because 329 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: of social media and stuff. So even back then, do 330 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: you think it's in your opinion, is it talent or 331 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: hard work that actually gets people? 332 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: Hard work is gonna always get you, keep you consistent. Now, 333 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: The thing about getting in the business is because it's 334 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: such a crap shoot, you can get in it. It's 335 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: a roll of the dice. You can roll seven and 336 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: on the first row and you can actually make it 337 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: into the business. But there's a technique and the skill 338 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: that comes into consistently hitting your number. And I think 339 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: that it takes hard work to sustain anything, right, but 340 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: to get in the business, it does not necessarily take 341 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: the hard work, and that's the problem. For some it 342 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: takes extreme level of consistency, persistence, and hard work, but 343 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: for others it's just I threw something up. I started 344 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: rapping six months ago. I started rapping a month ago, 345 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: my first song I put out here. So then what 346 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: happens is those who stick around, they are the ones 347 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: that you know are actually talented. So when Glorilla first 348 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: came out, you didn't know what it was going to be. 349 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: But I see the consistent work. I can tell that 350 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: she works extremely hard. So when I watch it, I'm like, Okay, 351 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: everything that's happening for her she deserves because she didn't 352 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: just take it. Now, Cardi be the same way. Cardi 353 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: B is an artist who I didn't think was super talented. 354 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: But the work that as into it, and the consistency 355 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: and the dedication to the craft. So if you can 356 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: find a way to obsess over the actual art and 357 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: not just over the making the money, then I think 358 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: that And obviously you want to be lucrative, you want 359 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: to make money, you want to be successful, But if 360 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: you could find a way to obsess over the art, 361 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: then I think that's more. 362 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: About character than it is about moods. And I say 363 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: this a lot. Your character should be consistent. Your mood 364 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: can change. Who you are is going to be consistent. 365 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: The way you do anything is the way you do everything. 366 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: So when you when you think about that, you've got 367 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: to understand, like if somebody was in the trap and 368 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: he was dedicated, little baby was in the streets and 369 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: he was known for getting to some money. So his 370 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: dedication to consistently be able to earn in the streets 371 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: transitioned over to his music, and when he started making music, 372 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: he took the same mindset, the same hustle, the same consistency. 373 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: The way you do anything is the way you do everything, 374 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: and that's why he's able to sustain success in a 375 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: music business. And I think that if you ask me 376 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: what's more important. I say, the hard work is more important. 377 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: But we live in an era where the talent is 378 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: not even necessarily more point, it's about how. 379 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: Much motion you have. 380 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 3: If you got enough movement and traction around you as 381 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: an artist, if people believe you, if people buy into you, 382 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: they'll convince themselves that they like your music. And that's 383 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: the difference. Now, if you have convinced them to love 384 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: you and you make great music, it's an incredible win 385 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 3: for you. 386 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: So when we talk about business, you know, people say, oh, 387 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: business is business, But like you said, how you do 388 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: one thing is how you do everything. 389 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: So do you. 390 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: Go along. Do you think that a person can separate 391 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: their actual personality from the business, you know, because people 392 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: do a lot of shady shit in business, right, And 393 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: though you'll say business is business, right, Yeah, I think, 394 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: but that's you. That's how I feel. 395 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a. 396 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: Whenever there's paperwork, whenever it is a huge conglomerate that 397 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: has to earn, it has to make money off that 398 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: like X's and o's, you have to understand that they 399 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: are going to stick to the rule book. And when 400 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: you go into a contract, you're making relationships with this president. 401 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: You're making relationship with this A and R. And you 402 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: believe that because this A and R told you that 403 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: he believed in you or she believed in you, and 404 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: they brought into your brand and they put their arm 405 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: around you, and they fuck with you for a long time, 406 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: and then things started to change and you weren't as 407 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: productive and you weren't as financially lucrative as you once were. 408 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: Then you believe that the portrayal was between them and you. No, 409 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: what happens is they have a higher ups that they 410 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: have to answer to. Even the CEO has to answer 411 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: to somebody. Right, he's the chief executive operator. Right, he 412 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: runs the machine. But they are boards and they are ownership. 413 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: That says you have to answer to us, and you 414 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: need to make sure that you're turning this around. So 415 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: when you don't do what you need to do, you 416 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: blame the inconsistency of the business. It's no love in 417 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: the business. It's no love in industry. And the problem 418 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: is that people think that the music business is any 419 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: way different than any other business. Whenever you have legal 420 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: and you have paperwork, you have people that have to 421 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: be paid, and you have checks and balances, there will 422 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: be a time where they're gonna ask who was productive 423 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: and who was not, and if you were productive. I 424 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: don't care how long this relationship has lasted. I don't 425 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: care how cool you are. I don't care how much 426 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: I love you, how you know my kids, and how 427 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: we hung out, and how you at one point you 428 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: were the king of this label. If you no longer earn, 429 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: then our time together has to end. And that's with sports, 430 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: that's in McDonald's, that's in anywhere. So I think that 431 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: people have this idea that the music business is more 432 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: shady or more about business, and business is business than 433 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: any of the corporation or conglomerate. They all function in 434 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: a way that says, if you are productive, you have 435 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: a space here at the table. 436 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: Now, We'll keep you. 437 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: Around as long as we can until I have to 438 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: answer to my higher upts to say, what's up, what's 439 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: up with? 440 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: What are we doing with this? 441 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: Because every time they do a project, every time they 442 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: go to the studio, we gotta pay for this. Every 443 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 3: time they put out a song, we gotta pay them 444 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: this because of the deal that we differ in back 445 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: in the day that earns them certain amounts. It's costing 446 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: us too much. We gotta get rid of it. So 447 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: in a sense, people will say the business is shady, 448 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: But every business that has to do with paperwork is 449 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: going to go by what the paperwork says and they're 450 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: going to honor that paperwork for as long as you 451 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: are beneficial to them. 452 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 5: Right. 453 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: And on top of that, everything in life is negotiable, 454 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: so get a lawyer, you know, reade check. 455 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: But even with that being said, everything is if you 456 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: are productive, then you can change any contract. That's the 457 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: crazy thing about the business. The lady God got first 458 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: deal is not the same deal she did after album. 459 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: Our first album came out and was extremely successful, she 460 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: was able to say I want to do this, I'm 461 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: not doing another record, and at the end of the 462 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: day she's so successful that we have to come to 463 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: the table. And that's how you have to look at it. 464 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: So if you aren't successful, you have to understand it's 465 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: the reverse that they're going to say, yeah, we know 466 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: we did this paperwork, but we really kind of just 467 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: want to seven times. It's costing us too much, So 468 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: we have the right to get rid of the situation 469 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: and walk away from the situation at any moment. Just 470 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: like you should have the right to say, hey, I 471 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: just sold thirty million albums, I would like to redo 472 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: my entire deal in structure it differently, and I would 473 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: like this person not to be involved. 474 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: Y'all can pay them. I would like this person not 475 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 4: to be involved. Y'all pay them off. 476 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: I want to have so ownership and partnership between you, 477 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: me and the label, and we'll and guess what, the 478 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: record company will sit down and go see you. You 479 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: could have discovered that. You could have came and brought 480 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: it to the table or him the table and the 481 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: rec company company and say, hey, here's a check. 482 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 4: We're sorry. 483 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: Stallion. I think is an example of that right because 484 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: she did not. She wasn't trying to leave. Say he's 485 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: speaking on that ship, I'll talk about it right cause 486 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: she wasn't trying to leave five and one. She just 487 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: wanted to renegotiate her contract. Like I'm pretty sure. 488 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: Say this, she's I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna 489 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: say this about all things, all things in life. I 490 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: don't care what a person has told you. I don't 491 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: care what you heard and how emotional how they may 492 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: have been when they said it. We only know their 493 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: perspective in that point of view, and it wouldn't be 494 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: fair for us to even give an idea of what 495 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: happened based on one person's take on it. 496 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm talking about her contract, I'm not talking about 497 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: the widow shit. But we don't have her contract either, 498 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, signing with her Essentially. 499 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: I can't speak on it. But what I can't say 500 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: is I only. 501 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: Know that she got an apology from that nigga. 502 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you got to apologize. 503 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: And what's the other rapper from Texas? She just left 504 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: five and one as well, Erica. 505 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: You know what's really unfortunate though, also is that there's 506 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: situations where sometimes I've signed a lot of female artists 507 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: and I haven't been able to break a female artist. 508 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: And the problem is that no matter what I've invested 509 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: into them, Like if you look on my page, anybody 510 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: who followed me to know that I'll post my artists 511 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: five hundred miles an hour, i will always promote and 512 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: talk about my artists. I'll put everything I have into them, 513 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: and when it doesn't work out, people forget all of 514 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: those things that you've done. They only believe, only realize. Oh, 515 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: it didn't work out, it must be Rico's fault, right, right. Meanwhile, 516 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: they never made a dollar for me in no way. 517 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: All I've ever did was put into it and it 518 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: never gave me a return on any of those situations. 519 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 4: Right. So, regardless of whatever I've read comments from people 520 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: that says Rico did this, and Rico did this, and 521 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: Rico did this. 522 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 3: So even when I look at a situation like, well, oh, 523 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: didn't another girl quit or leave his label, or didn't 524 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: another girl do this, I still only know that person's perspective, 525 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: because when you are the boss, when you are at 526 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: the top, it does not benefit you to go back 527 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: and forth on social media with somebody, Oh, this is 528 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: what really happened. It's not becoming of a boss. It's 529 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: not becoming of a leader. This doesn't look cool. So 530 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 3: a lot of times we have to allow, especially in 531 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: this business. Sometimes for rant, sometimes the artists will go 532 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: crazy and lose their mind on you, and sometimes you 533 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: just have to allow it because as a boss, you 534 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: can't be what it is just too much. So that 535 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: person could be wrong, this person could be right, and 536 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: vice versa. But I think that to assume that just 537 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: because this person says something that has to be true, 538 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: then that part of it, or just because this person 539 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: didn't respond to it, that you saw a fit that 540 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: it has to be true is not necessarily the truth. 541 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I get that, you know, because I am tired 542 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: of battling people's perspective nowadays. 543 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 4: And over time, over time, everything, especially especially. 544 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: Is the internet bit at this point, over. 545 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: Time, regardless or whatever, the truth will come out or 546 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: or things will play out, and people will see consistencies 547 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: and the characters and they'll see it. They'll watch and 548 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: notice some things, and I'm saying, oh, all right, this 549 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: is starting to make sense. 550 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: You know that thing? 551 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I have one question before we go to break. 552 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Give us your mount rushmore of r and b artists writers, 553 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: But what however you want to throw it? Okay, Michael 554 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: Jackson is number one period off the wall. I'm gonna 555 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: have to go with Stevie Wonder. Yes, And then you 556 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: get two people. 557 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: It's four I'm wrong with you, Yes, And then I 558 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 3: gotta go Usher just because not just because he discovered me, 559 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: but I just listened to his tone. I think this 560 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: is the most incredible distinct tones in the history of music. 561 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: And then you gotta go Beyonce because the only reason 562 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: I can't say Prince is because I can consider Prince 563 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: more rock R and B. So, but if we want 564 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 3: to go straight R and B, I gotta go with Stevie, Mike, Usher, 565 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: B because there are people from before my era, during 566 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 3: my era, and you know, the ones that I think 567 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: I patterned my love for music behind. 568 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: I like, but I definitely Prince. 569 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I love Prince, But I'm just saying, 570 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: if I had to choose between Prince, Michael and Stevie, 571 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: I think Prince was a way more well rounded artists 572 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: and all genres. So if you gave me around rushmore 573 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: music in general, then I would have to take out 574 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: Usher and B. I would put Prince in that spot. 575 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: But if you give me R and B, I got 576 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: to go. I prefer these people because of sentimental value 577 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: and reasoning also as well as iconic figures that they 578 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: are and impact and the contributions they made to the 579 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: R and B art form, And it's. 580 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, entirety absolutely, So one more question before we 581 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: go to break, who is on your hit list? Like 582 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: of people you haven't worked with yet and you want 583 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: to work with. 584 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: Wow, Rufus Wayne Wright is an incredible artist. I think 585 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: you guys should look him up. 586 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 4: His Uh. 587 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: He had an album called want One that changed my life. 588 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: I used to be extremely homophobic, as most people in 589 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: our community were, and when I heard this record he 590 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: wrote called Natasha. 591 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: Where he was Rufus Rufus Waynwright. 592 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: He has a song called Natasha and I interpreted him 593 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: telling his girlfriend he was gay, and I just thought 594 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: it was genius. So Rufus Wayne Wright is one of 595 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: the guys I would love to work with. I definitely 596 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: would love to do an entire project with Kanye West, 597 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: like if Me and Ye could do Me Too project. 598 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: Keep telling Yet, did y'all see him yesterday? Well, I 599 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: don't know. He has this other page. I don't know 600 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna show you right now, speak pages. 601 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: Speaking of other pages and artists, let's always say Kendrick 602 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: Lamar and I love his new account. 603 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: What's they called it? The Burner? 604 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah and so and then finally, Uh, I know that 605 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: this is I would love to do an album with 606 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: Usher and I've done a project for I've done a 607 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: lot of his songs that I've britten up. It's one 608 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 3: I got even new records getting ready to come out 609 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: of him soon. But I would want to do a 610 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: whole album with me and Usher, like, just let me 611 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: executive produce the project. 612 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 4: That would be my dream. 613 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: Why you can't make that happen? That should be. 614 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: Easy, right, It's not easy, but I would love for 615 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: it to be. 616 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: I should make that happen, all right, y'all. So it 617 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't be right to have somebody on we talk back 618 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: named Recal Love and I talk about love because y'all 619 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: know we love talking about relationships. I'm actually tired of it. 620 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: But anyway, So this past week, I was having a 621 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: conversation with a friend of mine and we started talking 622 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: about unconditional love, right, and so I asked him is 623 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: it possible for him? Does he think it's possible for 624 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: him to love someone unconditionally? And he was like, you know, 625 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: I don't think, like he didn't know he was unsure, right, 626 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, you know, the only person that 627 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: I love unconditionally is me, right, because I'm always forgive myself. 628 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm always have empathy for myself. But sometimes people do 629 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: things that are kind of unforgivable. You know what I'm saying. 630 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: You like if I walk away, is that really displaying 631 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: unconditional love? So how do you feel about unconditional love? 632 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: Yes, because love is a feeling, because love is a mind, 633 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: a space that you place somebody in your heart, in 634 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: your mind. Then unconditional love it has to exist to me. 635 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: And also because of my belief system, right, so, I 636 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: believe in God, and I believe God and God in 637 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: such a strong and reverence. I have such a reverence 638 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: for him, right, and I understand that if love is God, 639 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: then it's never ending, It's always present, it's always an 640 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: existing thing. Now my actions behind how I allow this 641 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: person to fit into my schedule, until my life, until 642 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: my psyche, that's different. But the feeling I have for 643 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: someone is unconditional, So meaning I never in the history 644 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: of my life would go out of my way to 645 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: hurt anyone. I never would try my best to target 646 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: someone and say, let me figure out a way to 647 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: get this person. 648 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody ever consciously thinks that. 649 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: But I can remove myself from anybody who who I 650 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: don't feel like have my best interests in mine or 651 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: if we don't feel like we're any longer compatible. But 652 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: the love that I have for them will make it 653 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: so that in any situation, I genuinely, from the bottom 654 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: of my heart want what's best for them. So I 655 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: don't think that unconditional love is unreasonable. Off it's task 656 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: to ask for or or a thing to ask for. 657 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: But I just think that to ask to somebody is 658 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: always present in your life and always is the go 659 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: to person for you when you need them, that part 660 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: of it isn't reasonable. But when we think about love, 661 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: even though love is an action, we also have to 662 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: remember that love sometimes means that I love you enough 663 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: to give you the space because if I love you right, 664 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: but you are allowing me in my own mind because 665 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: obviously we make our own choices, but you aren't allow 666 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: me to be the best version of myself, then for 667 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: the better of our relationship, I'd rather remove myself because 668 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: sometimes you're removing yourself for a time can mean that 669 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: you'll reconcile later in a time where I was able 670 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: to heal. 671 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: From some things, you was able to heal from some things. 672 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: We can really participate in a relationship, friendship, whatever that 673 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 3: is in a more mature space, but that love can 674 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: never not exist. So that's why when I tell people 675 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: people disagree with me strongly when I say that you 676 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: can only be in love once. So a lot of 677 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: people get angry when I say that. I don't know 678 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: why they get angry, because that's just my perspective. But 679 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: I always tell people I believe you can only be 680 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: in love once. I believe that we are wrong about 681 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: so many things already, No, but I just think that 682 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: we can. We're in a space where so many things 683 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: can be wrong. We can say we're wrong about so 684 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: many things, but we refuse to acknowledge that maybe we 685 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: were wrong about being in love with somebody, you know 686 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: what I mean? 687 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: And absolutely, and I think that uh good, right. 688 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: A lot of times spent with a person and you'll 689 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: believe that that was my soulmate, And that doesn't mean 690 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: that that's not necessarily the truth. And what it can 691 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: mean is that for that period it didn't work, and 692 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: then it can work later. 693 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: It can be that also. 694 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: But I do believe that if it's only one person 695 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: for me, how can I be in love with others? 696 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: The way love works, in my mind is ongoing thing. 697 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: It cannot turn off. You can't turn love off. So 698 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: when I think about love, I think about God and 699 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: I know that there are inconsistencies and everything that we do, 700 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: but the one thing that has to be constant is 701 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: our want for somebody to do well and to be 702 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: the best version of themselves. There was an interview with 703 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian said the other day, like, I want the 704 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: old Kanye back, right, I want the old I want 705 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: to I want to have that back. So what that 706 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: tells me is that her love for him didn't change. 707 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: She was in a situation. 708 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: From her perspective, and I don't know both sides of 709 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: the story, but from her perspective, what she's saying to me, 710 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: in my opinion was this no longer worked for me 711 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: when he was this way, and it was changed that happened. 712 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: But if he was this way, we could still have 713 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: worked it out. But for this, this was destroying me personally. 714 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: So when I look at that, I realized. 715 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: That their no, No, the condition is where she stayed. 716 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: You're still gonna have boundaries with boundaries. 717 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: And exactly she's her staying was the condition. 718 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: Her love for this person is unconditional, because if I 719 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: couldn't stay because of this, but if it was this way, 720 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: I could stay. 721 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: But the love didn't can't go anywhere. 722 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: And I think that that's fair, and I think that 723 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: sometimes we kind of like refused to really recognize, like when. 724 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 4: People are like, I've been in love six times, how 725 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: is that love? Don't work like that because you can 726 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: be out of it. It's a covenant. 727 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: So once you, I feel like being in love and 728 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: loving someone is totally two different things, right, because being 729 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: in love is a state of mind. So if you're 730 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: in a relationship and you're not doing things to continuously 731 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: fall in love with your person every single day, you're arguing, fussing, fighting, 732 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: you like your draws on the floor, like you're going 733 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: to be falling out of love, right, So I agree 734 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: with you. 735 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: I don't think you can fall out of love though. 736 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: That's the thing that's only if you. 737 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: I think saying there's a line between love and what 738 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 739 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 6: Is that you can believe that you were in love 740 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 6: with this person at that time time, Which is why 741 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 6: I agree with you when you said you only can 742 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 6: be in loved one and. 743 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: You can realize later that I was not in love 744 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: with this person. So what happens is is. 745 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: Usually when you get the new dig I could not 746 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: have possibly loved that nigga, because I love this man. 747 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: I just think that over time you'll realize, like, oh, 748 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: this has run its course, and I felt like this 749 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: was something, But over time I realized that I'm not 750 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: willing to endure any of this that's going on with 751 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: this person. So now sometimes you're not willing to endure 752 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: those things with a person because they are hooked on 753 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: drugs because they went to jail doesn't mean that that 754 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: might not be the person that you were meant to 755 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: be with. Sometimes you might end up with the person 756 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: you weren't meant to be with and the person you 757 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 3: were truly supposed to be with. Is the three relationships ago. 758 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: I think that's very much possible. But I also know 759 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: that if I say that I'm in love with someone 760 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: and I really mean it in the true essence of 761 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: what love means to me. 762 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 4: To me, love is a covenant. 763 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 3: Love is a covenant that is un You can't break 764 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: this covenant because I correlate love with God. So the 765 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: consistencies of who God is. And also I guess it's 766 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: up for debate because some people don't believe in God 767 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: in the way that I do. So that's why when 768 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: people get frustrated with my perspective. I'm always kind of 769 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: like puzzled because I'm like, this is my perspective. 770 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: Do you believe in the internal God or the external God? 771 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: Because the mine is internal? 772 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: See, I believe that it doesn't. God is omnipresent, so 773 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: his everything about who God is is internal. But we 774 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 3: are God's work in the earth. So I am the 775 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: external working of who God is and who God is 776 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: in me. Right, So I do understand that that over time, 777 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: things can reveal themselves to you and you realize I 778 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: thought that this was this, but it wasn't, and that's okay. 779 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: I was wrong about this thing. Doesn't mean I went 780 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: bad for that person. That doesn't mean I regret the experience. 781 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: But what I can realize is that this is what 782 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: not what I thought it would be or what I 783 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 3: wished it to be and what I tried to force 784 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: it to be right. And I also believe that when 785 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: you do find that thing and everything about you, everything 786 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: you believe, everything you thought that you would never do, 787 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 3: it'll trigger those things and it'll make you decide to 788 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: do things that you know. 789 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of shit lately. I don't 790 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: never do like, what the fuck is happening? All right? 791 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: So based on your definition, that means that you feel 792 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: like most people have never been in love. 793 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 4: I can't judge by most people. That's not my business. 794 00:35:54,200 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling business. My perspective is how I believe what 795 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 3: I believe love to be. I do believe that people 796 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: use the word loosely. I believe that people use most 797 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: times loosely. I believe people call something amazing, that it's 798 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: just okay, or they're brilliant. 799 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: I just think that that's so. 800 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: I think that I do believe that when it comes 801 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: to being in love, people can become you know, I 802 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: was in a space maybe a couple of years ago, 803 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: two years ago, where I was like everybody I was 804 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: going out on a date with. 805 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 4: I was thinking, oh wow, this could be it. Oh 806 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 4: my god, because I thought that's what I wanted, you 807 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 808 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: So then, unfairly, given a lot of maybe a few 809 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: people too much time that I feel like, maybe I 810 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: realized shortly after that it wasn't warranted. 811 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: Right. 812 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: So I think that we go through these phases in 813 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: our lives where we think certain things. Who I am 814 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: today is not who I was a year ago. Who 815 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: I am today is not who it was five years ago, 816 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: so I had to give myself space to grow and 817 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: understand through those things. But I think love is the 818 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: same way. The love is one of those things that 819 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: you can't outgrow. You can grow to a different space 820 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: than who you are. But it goes back to mood 821 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 3: and character. Your character is one thing, and your mood 822 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 3: is a different thing, and how you behave and how 823 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: you respond to things should not be based on your 824 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: mood and only be based on your character. 825 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 4: And that's how love is. 826 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: I respond to you based on how much I love 827 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: you and how mad you upset you made me. And 828 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 3: I think that when you realize what something with love 829 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 3: truly is, then it's defining how to correct. 830 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: Yourself in those senses. You know what I mean. 831 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: And when I respond with love, I think more so 832 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: about what's best for all parties involved, and not just 833 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: how I feel in the moment. 834 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: What I was about to say it was God is 835 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: love right, But in the Bible it was a lot 836 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: of ship God was doing in people right, a lot 837 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: of wraths. Do you feel the wrath of God? Right? 838 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: So it was always what do. 839 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 4: You do to people. 840 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 2: Cause destruction? God did cause destruction in the Bible to people. 841 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, let me tell you. 842 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what. 843 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: So let me tell you. Everybody died. 844 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't everybody else. 845 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 4: But again, it's all about perspective, right. God hates sin, right. 846 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: But what sin sin? It is objective. 847 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. It's all about perspective. Didn't 848 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 4: under saying that, Yes, you did, So it's all about perspective. 849 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 3: God hates sin. So God said to everybody. He said, 850 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 3: to everybody, this is going to happen to this place. 851 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 3: If you don't get right in this place, I'm gonna 852 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: flood this place. 853 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: I love the place. Say it to everybody. He told noa, 854 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: no one told that. 855 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: He told everybody. But that's how God speaks, right, But 856 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: that's how he speaks Noah. 857 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: Okay. 858 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: So so what you have to understand is Noah was saying, 859 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: if you behave this way, if you're doing this, and 860 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: a lot of times, and I think that's the reason 861 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: why a lot of people blamed And it's a whole 862 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 3: nother conversation. People blame Solomon and Moore the destruction of 863 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: it on home seules, and it wasn't the case, they 864 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 3: were all forms of perversions, bestiality, people having checked with children, animals, 865 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: battylon if they talk about the exactly. But the point 866 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 3: is he said, I'm going to bring wrath on this land. 867 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to destroy this place. This is what's about 868 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: to happen. And Noah for over a hundred years, he said, everybody, 869 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 3: get right, I'm telling you, he's about to destroy this place. 870 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 3: He did not say I'm going to burn you, because 871 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: if that was the case, he. 872 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 4: Wouldn't have to do it. He could have just picked 873 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 4: off people. That's not what he did. 874 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 3: What he said was I'm going to destroy this place. 875 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: And it was even a time where he said, don't 876 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: even look back, don't turn back. 877 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 878 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is and even and I know 879 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people even look listen to that, who 880 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 4: aren't you know, from where from that space and he 881 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 4: think is ridiculous. 882 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 3: Even if you don't believe the stories are true, look 883 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: at the examples of the times that we live in now. 884 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: So even if you think that that sounds cool, fory, 885 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: that sounds crazy, you have the right And I'm not 886 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: going to argue that with you. What I will say is, 887 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 3: if you look at the details of it, and you 888 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: say that God never ever said I'm going to burn 889 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 3: this one. 890 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 4: Man, I'm going to do this. 891 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: He said, get right, because I'm going to destroy this place, 892 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: and if you're in it, that's what's going to happen. 893 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm one with nature, right, So 894 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: if somebody said I'm about to destroy this place, I 895 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 2: feel like I'm a part of this place. Especially if 896 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm outside somewhere in a park, like I feel like 897 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm a part of that place. If I'm swimming in ocean, 898 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm a part of that place. 899 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 3: That's a perspective. But I also realize that wherever I 900 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: am there is a place. So if this place does 901 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: not exist, it's sentimental. If this place may have been 902 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 3: to me, I will be another space. There will be 903 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: another place if you if you know, if you understand 904 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 3: who you are, and that as long as you exist 905 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: in any place, that that is the place. And sometimes 906 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: places and times in particular, places have to end. So 907 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be more attached to the forest or the 908 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 3: river or the ocean that I am. 909 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 4: To my own. 910 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: Personally, I'm Pocahontas, though. 911 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: That's fair. 912 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: Low homemade stupid. 913 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: Do you want to get into our game? 914 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: Before we get into the game, let's go to commercial 915 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: right quick? All right, Rico, we want to get into 916 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: a game we call trading places. Right. I know you 917 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: see a thousand podcasts online it's always the man versus 918 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: woman battle. So we want to ask you a series 919 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 2: of questions. But it's you waking up tomorrow and being 920 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 2: a woman for a week. Love. So first, are you 921 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: paying for the first date as a woman? 922 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 5: No? 923 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 4: Okay, no, not at all, not at all. Okay, it's 924 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 4: a good answer. See, I believe in gender rows. 925 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 2: Yes, come on, man, what are we doing? Game over? 926 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 2: Nothing needs else to be said? 927 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 4: All right? 928 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: Would you go fifty to fifty on rent or mortgage 929 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: with your significant other? 930 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: So I think that it's a man's responsibility and every 931 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 3: I've only been in one major relationship where I've lived 932 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: with a woman, but I've never ever had a woman 933 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: contributed in any way. 934 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 4: To any bills in that home. 935 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: We ain't gonna be mad. 936 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I also don't believe that that's necessary. That's 937 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: just my way of doing it. 938 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 3: So when I look at anybody who does anything different, 939 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 3: I always give that leave that up to them. And 940 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 3: the decisions that they make. If the woman is okay, 941 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 3: we've gone half with her man, then that's not my business, 942 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Recently, And I think that 943 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: the fact that people were in such an uproar about it, 944 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: most women who were upset about it were mostly the 945 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 3: ones who can't afford to go half on any rent anyway, right, 946 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: So I think that to be upset about somebody else's 947 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 3: situation that they are happy with it is fucking ridiculous. 948 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I've never lived that way. But I also 949 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 3: know that sometimes you might be in a situation in 950 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: the bond. 951 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm in the bond. They think, sometimes you might be in. 952 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 3: A situation where things are going good and they abruptly 953 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 3: go bad. It would be amazing to have somebody there 954 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 3: who can say, don't worry, you've been holding it down 955 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 3: for all this time until you. 956 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 4: Get back right at least landscaping. 957 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: Right. 958 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, I get it. 959 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 3: But I just think that it's incredible to have somebody 960 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 3: who could be there to pick up some slack if 961 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 3: need be. And I think that, I think in my 962 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: heart that a woman who is in love with a 963 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 3: man and really cares about him, if things go bad. 964 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: I think she can't wait to help, she can't wait 965 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 3: to jump in grateful, you know what I mean. And 966 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 3: sometimes a woman might not be in a position to 967 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: do so. So that's no shade to women who may 968 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 3: not be in a position to do that. My mentor 969 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 3: my mentor my daughter who's eight years old, I want 970 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 3: a groom and build her up to be a woman 971 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: who's self sufficient and who has everything, can handle herself 972 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 3: and take care of solf. But I also know that 973 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: she's in a relationship with a man, he's gonna have 974 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 3: to take care of her because she's used to her 975 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: father taking care of her. So in order for me 976 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 3: to give her away in a sense, then I'm giving 977 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 3: her away to somebody who's gonna take on the role 978 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 3: that I have in her life. But I don't feel 979 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 3: like it'll be a chore for him because his relationshipship. 980 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 3: When I'm in a relationship, it's not a chore for 981 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: me to do for the woman I'm in a relationship with. 982 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 4: So even in the job of a man. 983 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: I think my opinion is to make sure he takes 984 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 3: care of the home in that particular way, and the 985 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 3: job of a woman is to make sure she takes 986 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: care of home in the way that she takes care 987 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 3: of so I just think that I. 988 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 4: Believe in those role. 989 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: I saw a video the other day. It is very quick. 990 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: It was an Asian guy Asian family getting married, and 991 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: the woman was he was handing his daughter off, and 992 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: he told the groom, if at any time you fall 993 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: out of love with my daughter, please just bring her 994 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: back to me. That's some art of warship because basically, 995 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: to me, what he was saying is I'm gonna kill you. 996 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 4: I think I interpret that differently. 997 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 3: I would say the same thing, because what it's saying 998 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: is if you don't want to be here, then don't 999 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: make my daughter suffer through you. 1000 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 2: Not bring her back. 1001 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 4: How about you bring her back to me and I'll 1002 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 4: be there for her with that unconditional love. 1003 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 3: I would prefer that you move on with your life 1004 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 3: and let me be the person, be the figure for 1005 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 3: her that I've always been. I've relinquished that duty and 1006 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 3: that title to you to have give it back to me, 1007 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 3: because I always take it back. I don't think it 1008 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 3: was anything malicious about that statement. It was like, we 1009 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 3: go through things and sometimes a man or woman can 1010 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 3: wake up one day and realize I don't want to 1011 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: be here anymore. 1012 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 4: So he's saying, don't treat it like shit, don't talk 1013 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 4: down to it. 1014 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 2: So they were never in love by your definition, we're 1015 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: never getting married. 1016 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what. 1017 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: I can't speak getting married. 1018 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 4: Are you getting on one knee as a woman and 1019 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 4: asking for a man's hand in marriage? 1020 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: No, you're so in love though, you know, and he 1021 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: hasn't asked for fifteen years. Middle part or side part 1022 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 2: as a woman? 1023 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 4: All right, it's down the middle. 1024 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 6: That's my thing. 1025 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 2: Bust out after y'all know. 1026 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 4: I like bangs. 1027 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 2: Bangs are back and style. I like bangs. Yeah, I'll 1028 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: be missing my forehead though sometimes you miss your when 1029 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 2: I get a bang? Yeah? Yeah? 1030 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: Are you smashing on the first date? 1031 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 2: You only got a week as a woman now. 1032 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 4: I don't judge. 1033 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 3: I judge everything about the chemistry, right, So if you 1034 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 3: if it's in the moment and it feels good, then 1035 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 3: go for it. I wouldn't judge a person off of 1036 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 3: that because I know guys who hung out with a 1037 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: girl and they be like, man, I've been dealing with 1038 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 3: Shorty for months. I never and we haven't been able 1039 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 3: to do nothing then I know guys meet her hang 1040 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 3: out and they do it the first day because the 1041 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 3: connection is different. I don't judge a person by that though, right, 1042 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 3: I judge a person off of even when we're talking 1043 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 3: about bills and all that stuff. I believe in gender roles, 1044 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 3: but also believe in giving it time and having a true, 1045 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: genuine connection. I believe that if a person is expecting 1046 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 3: me to do something for them without me knowing them, 1047 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 3: if it's a prerequisite to us going on the date, 1048 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: is that I cash out her money for her babysitter. 1049 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 2: That's wild. That's a wild one because you don't have kids, Like, 1050 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: why these guys gotta pay for your baby? 1051 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 4: Like it? Yes, but it's certain scenarios I've had. I've 1052 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 4: had a person. 1053 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 3: I invited a person out to hang out with me 1054 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: and they asked me to send them money for outfits. 1055 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm responsible for your first impression. Like, imagine 1056 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 3: if you've told somebody you're responsible, that's my first The 1057 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: first impression I'm going to have is how you look, 1058 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 3: how you dress, how you whatever, everything is exactly. You're 1059 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 3: telling me that I'm not only responsible for getting you there, 1060 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: feeding you, clothing, you want me to clothe you and 1061 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 3: style you for to make the first impression. So I 1062 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 3: think that a lot of times they are requirements that 1063 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 3: were based upon the relationship. If the relationship is to 1064 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 3: the point where a man is all right, if there's 1065 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 3: a level of convenience. 1066 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 4: Money is only for convenience, in my opinion. 1067 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: And if I say to a person I want to 1068 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 3: see you and they say, well, I can't see you 1069 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 3: because this is in my way. If a man has 1070 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 3: means and he wants to see her bad enough, then 1071 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 3: he should if he would like to get rid of 1072 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 3: that hurdle, right, and if that means that means a 1073 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: monetary thing, I'm gonna get rid of that because I 1074 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 3: want to see you this much. 1075 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 4: Now. If a person says, hey, I really want to 1076 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 4: see you. 1077 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm married, get rid of her husband. 1078 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 2: No Columbia next time. 1079 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 3: If a person is like, hey, let's hang out. Yeah, sure, 1080 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 3: let's hang out. Oh well I would I can't because 1081 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 3: I gotta pay this bill. And it's like, well, we 1082 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 3: don't need to hang out, Like why, you know what 1083 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that serious. But if it's like 1084 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 3: I really want to see this person, every time I 1085 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 3: try to see a ship. This thing is in a way, 1086 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 3: this thing is away, this thing is away. 1087 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 4: Let me try to get rid of so I can 1088 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 4: get close to her, you know what I mean. Yeah, 1089 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:06,919 Speaker 4: that's fair. 1090 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. 1091 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: That's fair. 1092 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 2: You woke up pregnant this morning, okay from one night standing? 1093 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 2: What you're doing? 1094 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I know. I love the babies. Depends 1095 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 4: on what it depends on my financial situation as a woman. 1096 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 4: I think everything should be based on what you could 1097 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 4: actually do for your child. That's it. 1098 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: So if I personally as a woman, would be able 1099 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 3: to take care of my child on my own, then 1100 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 3: I will keep the child. If I if I'm saying 1101 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to depend on this person who is a 1102 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 3: stranger to me what I don't know, then that's added 1103 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 3: extra pressure to me into my life, fighting with this 1104 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 3: person to take care of a child that they potentially 1105 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 3: might not want to or might not have the bravery, 1106 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 3: or might be a coward or might you know. 1107 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't take that responsibility. 1108 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 3: So what I would do is if I had the 1109 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 3: financial means to take care of the baby independent of 1110 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 3: anybody else, then I'm keeping a baby. 1111 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 4: If not, then I probably wouldn't. 1112 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 2: Y'all heard, hum Rica, No hold on, I got one 1113 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 2: more question because this is like, I feel like this 1114 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 2: is a scapegoat type thing men do. So at any 1115 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 2: given moment, you're asked what you want to eat? Do 1116 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 2: you know what you want to eat? What you're eating, y'all? 1117 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 2: Do I want to eat what you're eating right now? 1118 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 2: You're hungry? What you want to eat? 1119 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? I want to eat some steak and shrimp. 1120 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 2: Where you want to go at? 1121 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: You know? 1122 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 2: Because that's the thing men always say, women on them. Yeah, 1123 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 2: I feel like y'all put it off on us because 1124 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 2: y'all don't never know what y'all want to eat. 1125 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 3: What's crazy about men, know, is men think about where 1126 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: they're going to eat two days in advance. 1127 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 2: That is not true because they get to the menu 1128 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: and be mad because there's nothing they like that. 1129 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 3: Flying back to Miami tonight, I'm not gonna eat this 1130 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 3: late tonight. But let's say I was flying back in 1131 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 3: the afternoon, I already have in my mind what I 1132 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 3: want to eat when I get home. 1133 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm already thinking about it. 1134 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 3: Yesterday I was I was thinking about, Yeah, I want 1135 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 3: to go when I'm here, I always go to the watermen. 1136 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 3: So I'm always thinking, when I get to Charlotte, I'm 1137 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 3: going to the watermen, Like that's I'm going to stake 1138 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,959 Speaker 3: forty eight. That's just what I know what I'm gonna 1139 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 3: do with my mind. I'm already mentally preparing myself. But 1140 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 3: when I get to Charlotte, I'm going here. When I 1141 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: go to Vegas, when I go to La there places 1142 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 3: that I love to go to, And I'm saying, when 1143 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 3: I get there, I can't wait because I'm gonna go there. 1144 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 3: So men already prepare these things in their mind beforehand. 1145 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 2: I don't think. So I'm talking about a cohabitation situation 1146 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 2: or a date, you know what I'm saying, Like you 1147 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 2: hitting me up asking me what I want to eat, 1148 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 2: and you're mad because I don't know right now, But 1149 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: what do you want to eat? I don't know. When 1150 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: you get there, you see the menu, you don't like it. 1151 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: Once I pick a place that's happened to me a 1152 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 2: thousand times, I feel like like this is what I wanted. 1153 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 3: And especially now because I'm eating a certain way, I 1154 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm going to eat forty which I'm 1155 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 3: gonna eat, so it's easy for me but I can't 1156 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 3: speak for nobody else. 1157 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. I can tell this is. 1158 00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1159 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 2: I like hugs, y'all. 1160 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: All right, so we're going to get into our final segment. 1161 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: I talked to you about it a little bit earlier. 1162 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: Do you have your story ready for our SIMP series? 1163 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 4: SIMP series? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have some SIMP stories. 1164 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 4: Real easy way to. 1165 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: Say this, and simps are necessary, y'all. Okay, don't get 1166 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 2: us wrong. 1167 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 3: I was in a situation where, uh, a woman asked 1168 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 3: me to help her out of a situation and really 1169 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 3: look out for her. 1170 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 4: And then so I did. I sent I sent her 1171 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 4: some some funds to take care of a situation. And 1172 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 4: she was in a barn and I looked out. And then. 1173 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 3: The following week, I'm like, yo, let's hang out. She's like, yeah, 1174 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 3: I'll be there. And then she told me, yeah, I'm 1175 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 3: coming in. And she called me a little while before 1176 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 3: and said I gotta leave town. I gotta leave town. 1177 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm like, oh, she gonna make it. 1178 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 3: She renigged on it. And then I decided to go 1179 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 3: a different place instead of going to where I said 1180 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna go. She was there with some with 1181 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 3: some very cool rappers that I actually like. 1182 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 4: Yo. 1183 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 3: And it was awkward because they recognized me and they're 1184 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 3: like yo, and I'm like, hi, guys, I bought her outfit. 1185 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 4: Nice linking can I said with you, guys, I contributed 1186 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 4: in some way to this outing some same ship ship. 1187 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 2: So what does she say for? 1188 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 4: Nothing? Not a word? Act like she didn't see me. 1189 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 2: What how much money was it? Can you share? 1190 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna share, man. 1191 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 2: How much money was it? 1192 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 5: Was? 1193 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 2: It like over ten grand? 1194 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 5: No? 1195 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,479 Speaker 4: Fuck? 1196 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 2: No, okay, afford it? I'm bitch, Why you disappear? 1197 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 5: It was? 1198 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 4: It was It was a little bit of b It wasn't. 1199 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't those pennies. 1200 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, like you never spoke to her ever again 1201 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:07,959 Speaker 1: in my life. 1202 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 2: Damn bird brings no no, no, no, the girl the 1203 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 2: bird you know, you know. 1204 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was crazy because you know, you think 1205 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 3: about it, and these guys were, you know, on the 1206 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 3: top of the world at the time, and I was, 1207 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 3: you know, I was in a I was in a breakup, right, 1208 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 3: So I wasn't totally I was single at the time, 1209 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 3: but like in a breakup single, Yeah, a few months 1210 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 3: you just kind of like you're single, You're moving around. 1211 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 3: So I'm just like, oh, ship, I'm gonna go hang 1212 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 3: out with Shorty. I'm gonna do this and then and 1213 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 3: a lot of times people get back in relationships because 1214 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 3: of moments like that, Yeah, I. 1215 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 2: Should have sent you home, like, ain't nothing out here, man, 1216 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it my bench. 1217 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you it was the Migos. 1218 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: Oh hell no, she played. 1219 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 4: Like, but I say this, I'm saying it was the 1220 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 4: beginning of their career, believe it or not. 1221 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 3: When Migos first came out, they was on fire with 1222 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 3: Basachi and then I did a song called they Don't Know, 1223 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,479 Speaker 3: and Migos wrapped on them. 1224 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 4: They remixed they Don't Know. 1225 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 3: So they was already like I'm not gonna say fans 1226 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 3: of me, but I just think they respected my work 1227 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 3: and like so they had their remix and then they 1228 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 3: started really buzzing. So you know, I was in that 1229 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 3: playboy mode ifew you know, you singing for a little while. 1230 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 4: You're like, I'm about to be outside real quick. 1231 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 3: So I meet the Shorty and she like yeah, and 1232 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm like I really need some help with this, and 1233 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, cool, I send it a little bread 1234 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 3: and then she's like, we're supposed to link up that night, 1235 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,399 Speaker 3: and she curved me. So I'm thinking she probably thinking 1236 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 3: he's not gonna come over and he's not going to this, 1237 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: because I probably. 1238 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 4: Usually wouldn't have. I was like, let me just pull 1239 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 4: up to this and I see them. 1240 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: That was God because she would have still been taking 1241 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: money for you right now. 1242 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 4: She wouldn't have still been taking money. I'm not gonna get. 1243 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: Probably wasn't she Probably only I'm talking to you because 1244 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 2: you saw her with the finesse. That's what I'm saying. 1245 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 4: She would have still been coming out. I consider it 1246 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 4: to be my decision because I would have never spoke 1247 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 4: to her again. You know what I'm saying. 1248 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 2: Had you not seen. 1249 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, then she could have still been to be finessed right, Yes, 1250 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 5: bi weekly like she didn't like she ain't. 1251 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 4: Give a fuck. She didn't send me a text on 1252 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 4: SOT nothing. What's good. 1253 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't play with people like that. What happened? What happened? 1254 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's awful. Maybe she listens to the show. 1255 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 4: If you do, you really reco an apology? 1256 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: Oh his money bag? Fun that apology? Pay me right? 1257 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: What a sympo? 1258 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 2: No, sim's unnecessary. Dumb bitches are also necessary. Man, they 1259 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 2: are because it's not like it's a bad thing. I 1260 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 2: think men call other men sims. Women really don't use 1261 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 2: the term like that, Like we will call a woman 1262 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 2: a dumb bitch, right, I. 1263 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 4: Think y'all kind of see niggas a simps sometimes, but we. 1264 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 2: Don't see what I'm saying, Like we see a lick. 1265 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely some of them have on their forehead. 1266 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 4: I was, Oh my god, got licked next to them 1267 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 4: in your phone. 1268 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 2: I've never. 1269 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 4: I think. 1270 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 3: But we all are corny to somebody, you know what 1271 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 3: I mean? It looks cool somebody somebody that you know. 1272 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 4: Is that that what you something like? I accept that. 1273 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 4: I try to be as cool as I possibly. 1274 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 2: Can, But I know myself. 1275 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: I think it's necessary to get played to be well rounded, though, Right, 1276 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: you gotta take a l sometimes so you can be humble. 1277 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably played somebody, So it's coming back around Jesus. 1278 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 2: But I'm Karma. I do the coming around, all right, y'all. 1279 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 2: I do the coming around. Yeah, this is a good episode, 1280 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 2: a great good interview. 1281 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, tell everybody was next where they can 1282 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: find you? 1283 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So I really want to obviously songwriters my passion. 1284 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 3: I'm a passionate father, So I'm in a men's group 1285 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 3: for dads, you know what I mean, So the dads 1286 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 3: can come together. It's like a network where we can 1287 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 3: kind of communicate and we can exchange energy and advice 1288 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 3: and how we can uplift and build each other in 1289 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 3: our communities. And what we're gonna do is in each meeting, 1290 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 3: we raise money for one father who may be in 1291 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 3: need of something specific to help do something great with 1292 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 3: his kids. So we're going to be creating that in 1293 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 3: it's called because I'm a Dad, and that's gonna really soon. 1294 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna be rolling that out. Also, the reco Love 1295 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 3: webinars that we we Love Music conference that I do 1296 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 3: around the world teaching about songwriting and production. That's something 1297 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm super passionate about and building it my multimedia group 1298 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 3: where I'm able to develop not just artists and writers, 1299 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 3: but also actors and poets and you know, creatives in 1300 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 3: all art forms, finding finding spaces for them to exist 1301 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 3: and express themselves without the burden of the financial, uh, 1302 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 3: you know, burdens that people have and they're trying to 1303 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 3: making the business. So that's more My passion is making 1304 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 3: sure that we can pour back into creatives and put 1305 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 3: back into our community of creatives. You had a nonprofit, 1306 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 3: so it's it's essentially a for profit business though, because 1307 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 3: we want to be able to have avenues to where 1308 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 3: after they receive funds and they do well, then there's 1309 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 3: a commission that they paid back. 1310 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 2: I guess I was referencing the thing for or the Dads. 1311 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 3: Will be nonprofit. Yeah, sure, yes, but the multimedia company 1312 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: will kind of develop acts. We want to make sure 1313 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 3: that we can help give them resources and then the company. 1314 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 4: Can earn off of. 1315 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 2: That's super cool. 1316 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 3: Doing the music for a new TV show called Black Hamptons. 1317 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 3: This is the season two of the Black Hampton's on BT, 1318 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 3: so I'm the music supervisors for them. We did I 1319 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 3: did the first season and now I'm working on the 1320 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 3: second season. I'm super excited about that. I'm super excited 1321 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 3: about Usher's new album. 1322 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 2: Just really a new album coming. 1323 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice, excited babies babies coming. I just was 1324 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 4: with him. 1325 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 3: He played me to like every song, because you know, 1326 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 3: I did the songs that I've done, but we took 1327 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 3: a car ride and he just played me everything and 1328 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 3: it was exceptional. It is an exceptional body of work. 1329 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 3: I can't wait for the world to hear that. Obviously, 1330 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 3: I just had a success with Romeo Santos and Justin 1331 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 3: Timberlake with Sin Finn. Anybody who's familiar with Latin but 1332 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: shot the music number one. 1333 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:19,959 Speaker 4: But chat the song in the world. 1334 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 3: So excited about that and excited about the work we're 1335 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 3: doing with the BMC, the Black Music Collective. I'm the 1336 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 3: chairman of the BMC, which is a subsidiary of the Grammys. 1337 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 3: We created something dei effort where we kind of like 1338 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 3: making sure that we hold feet to the fire, make 1339 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 3: sure that black people, women and people of color represented 1340 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 3: properly inside the Recording Academy. Last year a Recording Academy 1341 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 3: Honors Award show, we honored Lol Wayne, Sylvia Own, Missy Elliott, 1342 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 3: and doctor Dre. This year, we're cooking up some exceptional 1343 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 3: for the Grammy for Grammy Week, and we're doing some 1344 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 3: amazing events around the country around building awareness to black 1345 01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 3: creatives on what was available for them. 1346 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 2: And I missed that in your introduction, y'all. This is 1347 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Grammy nominated recal love also and. 1348 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 3: Also also I'm helping Music Cares with this hip Hop 1349 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 3: initiative we're doing for the next three years, we're gonna 1350 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 3: be funding and helping a lot of hip hop artists. 1351 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 4: So if you are hip hop artists and. 1352 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 3: You need help, you need money, and you need a 1353 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 3: roof for your house, you need your teeth fixing, you 1354 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 3: don't have the funds for that, come to music Cares 1355 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 3: you submit and. 1356 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 2: Fix the current the existing ones first or y'all. 1357 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah no, but yeah, the teath that you have, now, 1358 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 4: let's make sure we got those more. 1359 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 3: But if it's a lot of things that we're doing, 1360 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: and it's a lot of philanthropic work, but also also 1361 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 3: a lot of entrepreneurial work that I'm really focusing dedicating 1362 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 3: myself on. And I created the Love Foundation where I 1363 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 3: were doing these recordings at my house. I created it 1364 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 3: because I keep my kids seven days on and seven 1365 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 3: days off. So when I'm with my kids, I was 1366 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 3: finding that I was spending a lot of time picking 1367 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 3: my daughter up from school, picking myself up from school, 1368 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 3: see them for a hour, go to the studio, come back, 1369 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 3: they sleep, I wake up. 1370 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 4: I take a miver. 1371 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't see them. 1372 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 3: So what I started doing was I started recording in 1373 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 3: my home and setting up the cameras and doing these sessions, 1374 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 3: inviting people over, and we've been making great records and 1375 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm able to have my kids come in and out. 1376 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 3: So it's called the Love Foundation, and we just make 1377 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 3: really dope records. And we've been documenting, documenting the process, 1378 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 3: and we're going to make it into like this little series. 1379 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Well you're busy. I know, I'm not doing enough out here. 1380 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 6: Apparently you got we like to lay down, got to 1381 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 6: do as much as possible to make sure some stick. 1382 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 2: I know, man, I gotta get better at that. When 1383 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 2: I hear people like that was a nice little rant 1384 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 2: about all the things like am I not doing enough? 1385 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn. After I leave here, I was going 1386 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,919 Speaker 2: to sleep. Just go ahead and plan for tomorrow, matter 1387 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 2: of fact, because that's the way what would rical Love do? 1388 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 2: All Right, y'all listen. This is a fantastic episode, y'all. 1389 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 2: If you enjoyed it, tune in every Thursday on iHeartRadio 1390 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Apple Where but the fuck you get your podcast at? 1391 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: This is your co host, A j Holiday two point 1392 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 2: on Instagram. Y'all follow me down. If you won't get 1393 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:07,439 Speaker 2: on listen, check out. We talked back ent dot com. Also, 1394 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 2: we got some merch up on there now. Check us out. 1395 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 2: What's up Dan, y'all. 1396 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: It's official tam band. Follow me on Instagram. 1397 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 4: I love y'all. 1398 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: Thank y'all for tuning in. 1399 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Remember to speak now and never hold your peace Jesus