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Speaker 1: wollefully are you ready ready for a metaphor? Oh? No, actually,
Speaker 1: I mean are you ready to broadcast period? Isn't this
Speaker 1: normally a time of year you take your two week
Speaker 1: vacation spring break vacation in Hawaii? So it's a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Paul, I was born ready yesterday at Casa KALBC.
Speaker 1: You know what arrived? Don't answer that I knew I
Speaker 1: shouldn't give any time to answer that a Christmas card
Speaker 1: from my parents, a holiday card arrived yesterday, that was
Speaker 1: mailed on December twenty first. I mean, I could show
Speaker 1: you the postmark right here. It's right on the envelope.
Speaker 1: It's stamped official alike from the United States Postal Service,
Speaker 1: officially mailed from San Jose, California, on December twenty first,
Speaker 1: and it arrives in our mailbox on March nine. So
Speaker 1: what is going on with bad ball? I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a reminder tis this season right now, the
Speaker 1: offseason free agency is about to get you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: things might take a little longer, maybe maybe a lot
Speaker 1: longer than you might expect. You know, maybe this applies
Speaker 1: to free agency and are reminder to everyone, all the
Speaker 1: players out there, just hole tight, hang on. You know what,
Speaker 1: your bag is gonna arrive eventually, you know, just like
Speaker 1: the holiday card that had the checks in it for
Speaker 1: the kids. So the young punks their bag finally arrived
Speaker 1: three months late. Okay, Polly, there you go. Where are
Speaker 1: you going with all of this? Paul? All right? I
Speaker 1: know I interrupted you a couple of times, but where
Speaker 1: exactly are you going with that we got plenty of news,
Speaker 1: do we not. We're waiting. We're waiting for the official
Speaker 1: start of everything to arrive, and you know, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit longer perhaps, and everyone anticipates,
Speaker 1: and there's some players maybe a little more anxious than
Speaker 1: others and impatient than others. But we're starting to get
Speaker 1: the news, are we not. We're starting to get some
Speaker 1: of these maneuvers. And here on the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: in a moment, it will be starring Rob Frederickson, right,
Speaker 1: longtime NFL linebacker, Cardinal's analyst. He's going to join us
Speaker 1: here for a couple of segments on the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We'll get into all this,
Speaker 1: But how about some headlines right off the top? Roun willfully,
Speaker 1: how about some news to get this week started? When
Speaker 1: we got the news that Jordan Hicks was released your role? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, Honestly, Polly, I think you could see
Speaker 1: this coming a mile away. You know, I know you
Speaker 1: feel this way as well about Jordan Hicks. There's not
Speaker 1: a guy in that locker room that I respect more
Speaker 1: than Jordan Hicks in what he actually went through last year.
Speaker 1: It's been well documented. We all understand it. At the
Speaker 1: same time, you could see it coming a mile away.
Speaker 1: For the most part, not only because you're gonna save
Speaker 1: six and a half million dollars off the cap, of course,
Speaker 1: but also because it is time for Zaven Collins. It's
Speaker 1: his time having a whole off season actually getting in
Speaker 1: some field work out there, Polly and then in the
Speaker 1: classroom as well. This offseason is a major grosberg for
Speaker 1: Zaven Collins. You can see this coming a mile away.
Speaker 1: It's zavn or bust. And what we talk about last month,
Speaker 1: the reality this situation is, at least in my opinion,
Speaker 1: if you would have brought Jordan Hicks back, guess what happens.
Speaker 1: Exactly what happened last training camp. He beats out Saving Collins.
Speaker 1: So you can't have that. You just can't have him
Speaker 1: on the roster because just based on his football IQ
Speaker 1: alone and his ability to call that defense and the
Speaker 1: trust factor that I'm sure exists with the coaches, and
Speaker 1: the fact they can send him out there and based
Speaker 1: on an offense is doing, Jordan Hicks can immediately check
Speaker 1: into a subcall two or three different audibles that comes
Speaker 1: off the original based defensive call. You know what, you
Speaker 1: got a sink or swim if you're saving Collins and
Speaker 1: you're not going to learn how to play that position
Speaker 1: unless you're actually playing the position. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: what too, Poli, I think they wanted to send that
Speaker 1: message right now to Zavan Collins. Send that message it's
Speaker 1: time for you to take charge as the mic linebacker
Speaker 1: of this team. It's time for you we evolve into
Speaker 1: being a mic linebacker in the National Football League. I
Speaker 1: think again this postseason they wanted to set that precedent early.
Speaker 1: It's not only again the fact that it's six and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars off the cap. That's a big
Speaker 1: deal right there, but also jes Zavian Collins has got
Speaker 1: to take the reins and understand that the responsibility is
Speaker 1: on him to get himself ready to play in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. In Paulli, I think he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to do it. I do again, with another off season,
Speaker 1: with all of the classroom time he's gonna get, with
Speaker 1: all of the tape that he's gonna watch, Paully, we
Speaker 1: know he's a smart kid. We know that he's a
Speaker 1: smart kid. So because of that, let all that athletic
Speaker 1: goodness take over and start it right from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the message that the the Cardinals wanted
Speaker 1: a son. Yeah, he has every skill set. You're right,
Speaker 1: he has these measurables. He has the athleticism, he has
Speaker 1: the IQ. There's no doubt about it. He's about to
Speaker 1: fill some really big shoes. You're talking about a middle
Speaker 1: linebacker with one hundred sixteen tackles, number two on the
Speaker 1: team to Jayalen Thompson. He played ninety seven percent of
Speaker 1: the defensive snaps, most of anybody on the defense, So
Speaker 1: you know it's a big deal. He was voted to
Speaker 1: captain by his peers. Yeah, obviously called the defense. So okay,
Speaker 1: all eyes, to your point, are gonna be on Zavin
Speaker 1: Collins when the offseason practices begin. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Devon Knard, he was scheduled have a cap hit of
Speaker 1: nine million plus. He has risk structured reportedly and according
Speaker 1: to his own social media, so boom, Devon Knard is
Speaker 1: back on board. But there's some more cap savings and
Speaker 1: you see how they're maneuvering and trying to create room. Right, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're you're right. About that, PAULI that's exactly what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do. It does help that the cap is
Speaker 1: going up, what twenty six million dollars, Paul, is a
Speaker 1: twenty seven or yeah, it's it's gonna end up right
Speaker 1: about two oh eight and change. Okay, there you go,
Speaker 1: two oh eight and change twenty six twenty seven million
Speaker 1: dollars increase. That's gonna be huge for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Steve Kim is going to appreciate that.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is what happens every year. You
Speaker 1: go ahead and you've got to restructure these contracts. At
Speaker 1: some point in time, we're gonna have to pay the piper.
Speaker 1: But Steve Kim was actually talking about that very thing.
Speaker 1: But I think right now you've got to go ahead,
Speaker 1: look at your roster. What can you possibly do to
Speaker 1: free up some cap space? It's that time of year, Paul.
Speaker 1: And then we got the big news, big big news
Speaker 1: out of the NFC West as Russell Wilson is heading
Speaker 1: to the AFC West, as Denver pulls off the deal,
Speaker 1: and it was a big deal to me. I'm shocked
Speaker 1: that Seattle actually agreed to the deal. I don't care
Speaker 1: how many picks if you're going to rebuild that thing,
Speaker 1: I would have kept the quarterback and gotten rid of
Speaker 1: everyone else, And they went the exact opposite direction. Your
Speaker 1: reaction to Russell Wilson leaving the division, Yeah, baby, I mean, honestly, Paula,
Speaker 1: you know the law. I love the NFC West because
Speaker 1: it's the beating heart of the football universe. It was
Speaker 1: the beating heart it was of the football universe. I
Speaker 1: thought it was the best football you could possibly play
Speaker 1: in the universe as human beings. The highest level our
Speaker 1: species can generate was found in the NFC West. Now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that no longer is going to
Speaker 1: be the case going forward, And look no further than
Speaker 1: the quarterback room. Yes, you've got Matthew Stafford still there
Speaker 1: in LA, but Trey Lance is taking over the reins
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Hold onto your butts right there. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is no longer playing for the Seattle Seahawks. That
Speaker 1: is huge. You're gonna tell me right now that Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: if in fact everything is copasetic and everything happens the
Speaker 1: way we think it's probably going to happen, where he
Speaker 1: is going to be extended this offseason. Kyler Murray is
Speaker 1: going to be the longest tendered quarterback in the nf
Speaker 1: C West. We could do a whole show, I think
Speaker 1: on our mutual respect for Russell Wilson, right just watching
Speaker 1: him over the entirety of his career twice a year.
Speaker 1: Everything he didn an offensive line minus playmakers at times,
Speaker 1: at times with an average defense. There was one reason,
Speaker 1: and one reason only many years the Seahawks weren't a
Speaker 1: six win team, and that was because of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: So you have that he's out of the NFC's into
Speaker 1: the AFC West. We'll get into that more a little
Speaker 1: bit later in the show. Aaron Rodgers staying in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: And then the big headline today, just when he thought
Speaker 1: baseball was going to steal all the headlines, guess what.
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack delta the Chargers from the Bears. Just hey,
Speaker 1: if the other teams are gonna load up at quarterback
Speaker 1: in the FC West, the Chargers say, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: after the quarterback. We're pairing up Khalil Mack with Joey
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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson on deck, we'll talk about all this. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that linebacker position for the Cardinals. Was someone
Speaker 1: who played that position. Next on the big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert hands it off, no
Speaker 1: running room off the right side and back of loss
Speaker 1: up two on the play, Zaban Collins the first guy there,
Speaker 1: and that is a big man coming down from the
Speaker 1: week's side, shooting the gap. Saban Collins again throws over
Speaker 1: the middle, tipped into the air and then complained he
Speaker 1: was going for his tight end. Path was off the mark.
Speaker 1: Xaban Collins at coverage that time and it's fourth down.
Speaker 1: Saban Collins bats that fall into the air with all
Speaker 1: of that use check in motion. It is a quarterback
Speaker 1: drop the middle. Lance's head drives the legs forward, gonna
Speaker 1: be close. The forty nine ers are short Saban Collins
Speaker 1: with the tackle. Saban Collins, the rookie at two sixty
Speaker 1: playing downhill, came in and laid some lumber, baby, And
Speaker 1: you're not kidding, Wolf, I mean I remember vividly rookie
Speaker 1: Mini Camp a year ago standing next to him in
Speaker 1: the sideline of life. This dude's a middle linebacker six five,
Speaker 1: two sixty and our Jim al mondro into his archives.
Speaker 1: So a little highlight montage there. We'll see if that's
Speaker 1: the launching path, right, We'll see if that's just the
Speaker 1: start of a long, productive career in the NFL. Heck,
Speaker 1: we remember his very first snap as an Arizona Cardinal
Speaker 1: in August in the preseason where he shot the gap
Speaker 1: on the first snap from scrimmage and it was a TfL,
Speaker 1: a tackle for loss against Dallas. Remember that in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Is his very first play as a pro. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it, Bully, I do remember that, and that's
Speaker 1: something he's got to do a little bit more, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. So let's see what's in store for
Speaker 1: Zamon Collins. And then we'll let's zoom out around beyond
Speaker 1: the linebacker room and the entire Cardinals defense. How about
Speaker 1: longtime NFL linebacker, former Cardinal, former Raiders first round pick
Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson on the Big Red Rate presented by Santan
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert Freddie. How are we doing tonight, Hey,
Speaker 1: Paul Wolf, how are you guys doing. I'm doing great,
Speaker 1: We're doing great, Buddy doing great. Man, Just thinking about
Speaker 1: that inside linebacker room right now? What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: right now as it stands with the news of Jordan Hicks,
Speaker 1: of course, what are your thoughts on that room right now? Well, obviously,
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks was kind of the glue that kept that
Speaker 1: defense together last year, and just I mean, aside from
Speaker 1: his play on the field, he's such a great leader
Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's going to be missed. But
Speaker 1: when you use your two first round picks the last
Speaker 1: two years on inside linebackers, those guys got to play
Speaker 1: and they have to step up and and now is
Speaker 1: the time? Are they inside linebackers? Isaiah Simmons we saw
Speaker 1: him again this year, you know, used in a really
Speaker 1: versatile way. He was in the slot quite a bit,
Speaker 1: he was on the edge quite a bit, and then
Speaker 1: Zavian coms to get him on the field and the
Speaker 1: latter half of the season, he was on the edge.
Speaker 1: Now at the combine, Steve Kimes said, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: we're keeping him inside linebacker, middle linebacker spot. But I mean,
Speaker 1: what did you see out of them and where do
Speaker 1: you think their ideal positions are? Well? I think Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons really as big as asset is his versatility and
Speaker 1: his ability to play multiple positions. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I think he's going to spend the
Speaker 1: majority of his time in that inside linebacker position. He
Speaker 1: does have the ability to rush off the edge, he
Speaker 1: has ability to play a deep safety, play a slot corner.
Speaker 1: He's that versatile, he's that good, he's that talented, But
Speaker 1: you know they are going to need him in that
Speaker 1: inside mynebacker position. Versely, Zaven Collins, he is an inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: He is a prototypical middle linebacker, bigger than probably anyone
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But you know, and he struggled at
Speaker 1: times last year a lot. He struggled a lot. So
Speaker 1: did Isaiah Simmons in his first year. But the biggest
Speaker 1: growth really comes in that transition from the first year
Speaker 1: to the second year. And now is the time for
Speaker 1: these guys to learn from their mistakes last year, absorb
Speaker 1: the defense. They have another year under their belts. It's
Speaker 1: time for them to make that natural next level step. Freddie,
Speaker 1: did you think that Isaiah Simmons hit a wall last year?
Speaker 1: At some point? Do you think he hit that rookie wall,
Speaker 1: because I thought he trailed off the last maybe four
Speaker 1: or five games Isaiah Simmons. Yes, yeah, you know, I do.
Speaker 1: I think he did. I think teams, you know, figured
Speaker 1: out that, you know, this guy is so athletic, let's
Speaker 1: let's run the ball right at him. And he struggled
Speaker 1: quite honestly at times, just with the physicality, the physicalness
Speaker 1: of that rushing attack. When you know, if you run
Speaker 1: the ball to the outside as an offense, that's playing
Speaker 1: right into Isaiah Simmons game, he will run you down
Speaker 1: and he will be effective. But coming right off at him,
Speaker 1: I think is difficult for him. He's an undersized guy.
Speaker 1: He's he's a little light. He will come up and
Speaker 1: hit you. But coming up and hitting a running back
Speaker 1: or a wide receiver is different than coming up and
Speaker 1: hitting a three hundred and twenty pound offensive lineman that's
Speaker 1: coming Scott Free off at you. Yeah, And Freddie, I
Speaker 1: said the rookie wall I did not mean that, obviously
Speaker 1: because his second year right there, but he seemed to
Speaker 1: hit a wall. That's what I meant. He seemed to understood,
Speaker 1: and I think he did. You know, he's again he's
Speaker 1: playing a position that is still somewhat foreign to him.
Speaker 1: He didn't spend the majority of his time in college
Speaker 1: at Clemson playing an inside linebacker position. They moved him
Speaker 1: all over. I think he probably spent the majority of
Speaker 1: his snaps in college playing a safety position or a
Speaker 1: smart corner. So this is still fairly new to him,
Speaker 1: and things happen a lot quicker when you're in the
Speaker 1: inside linebacker position. You know, when you say about teams
Speaker 1: going straight at Isaiah Simmons, that reminds me. Guys, So
Speaker 1: the first couple of years of Daryl Washington when he
Speaker 1: was a two hundred and twenty pound linebacker and they
Speaker 1: just go right after him because he was still good
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. Now, he obviously evolved and he adapted
Speaker 1: and he became really effective until his career flamed out.
Speaker 1: But you know, I wonder if he can make that
Speaker 1: same sort of evolution. And we're on board with Rob
Speaker 1: Fredericks and former Cardinals linebacker. Let me go back to
Speaker 1: Zaman Collins when you said he had his rookie struggles
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Simmons had some as well, and then obviously
Speaker 1: he blossom last year in a lot of ways. Specifically,
Speaker 1: where do you think Zaman Collins needs to improve the most.
Speaker 1: The NFL game is so much more complex versus college, right,
Speaker 1: And when offenses in the NFL are so much more complex,
Speaker 1: when they start shifting motioning guys, oftentimes the coverage will
Speaker 1: change with that motion or with that shift, the blitz
Speaker 1: will change, the front will change. You have to reprogram
Speaker 1: and reset within a split second your mind as to
Speaker 1: what are now my responsibilities within this new defense that
Speaker 1: just was created because of a motion or a shift,
Speaker 1: and you know, and then the ball snapped and you
Speaker 1: have to react and you have to identify is it
Speaker 1: a run, is it a pass? What are my responsibilities?
Speaker 1: What are my run gap responsibilities? What are my pass
Speaker 1: drop responsibilities? And the defense changed within the motion. Things
Speaker 1: happen so fast that it can be overwhelming. And that's
Speaker 1: when you see mental errors or you see indecision. And
Speaker 1: when there's indecision, especially in the run game or pass game,
Speaker 1: quite quite Honestly, that's when you see mistakes and teams
Speaker 1: offenses quarterbacks are so good at pinpointing that and exploiting
Speaker 1: those weaknesses or those missteps. Guys, I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: I am really, really jacked. I'm excited about the inside
Speaker 1: linebacker room because of Zaven Collins and because of Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 1: because I do believe the off season they're going to
Speaker 1: get exactly what it is they need. Think of Isaiah Simmons, Guys,
Speaker 1: right now, in his two off seasons, the pandemic off seasons,
Speaker 1: stop and think of Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, this kid man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I think this offseason is going
Speaker 1: to do him a world of good. And I say
Speaker 1: the exact same thing for Zaven Collins. Isaiah Simmons took
Speaker 1: a huge step forward in year or two from his
Speaker 1: rookie year, and again the off seasons that he's had
Speaker 1: right here where you learn so much and you grow
Speaker 1: Freddie so much. I expect Zaven Collins is going to
Speaker 1: benefit greatly from this offseason and Isaiah Simmons as well
Speaker 1: to actually have a normal off season a year three.
Speaker 1: I think they will wolf one thing that I think
Speaker 1: could also benefit them and could also help them is
Speaker 1: focusing and from everything that I've heard and read and seen,
Speaker 1: it's not really a major focus. But if you if
Speaker 1: you as a Cardinals focused on the interior defensive line.
Speaker 1: I know we talk about the need for the outside
Speaker 1: pass rushers and cornerbacks, but that interior defensive line because
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were getting gashed last year. Let's be honest
Speaker 1: in the run game, that would benefit these two guys immensely.
Speaker 1: To get just a run plug and stuff and defensive
Speaker 1: interior defensive linemen in there that is consistent, that can
Speaker 1: stay healthy. That would free up the athletic ability of
Speaker 1: a Zavan Collins Isaiah Simmons and allow them to run
Speaker 1: and to fill those gaps and to not have these
Speaker 1: big offensive linemen in their face time. I think something
Speaker 1: like that to me would be ideal. And free agency
Speaker 1: or the draft, I mean, I mean think back to
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: when Fred Warner, a third round pick, came out and
Speaker 1: was an All Pro, right, I mean, but think of
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman who were in front of him. He
Speaker 1: had three or four first round picks along that forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers defensive front, and he was just able to
Speaker 1: go almost untouched sideline to sidelines. So you're right, if
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, for example, had been every bit the player
Speaker 1: they thought they had signed two years ago in free agency,
Speaker 1: how far that would have gone because Rob, you know,
Speaker 1: and this goes into Chandler Jones as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't often where the Cardinals interior defensive line was
Speaker 1: collapsing that pocket from the inside out, was it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he Chandler Jones and the edge rushers didn't benefit very
Speaker 1: much from that either. Now exactly right, Paul. You have
Speaker 1: to you have to apply pressure from the outside and
Speaker 1: you have to get pressure and get movement from the
Speaker 1: interior to force that quarterback to make a decision. You know,
Speaker 1: is that quarterback going to spin out and try scramble
Speaker 1: or is he going to step up in the pocket. Well,
Speaker 1: if he can't step up in the pocket, that helps
Speaker 1: out the defense, that helps out the edge rush immensally.
Speaker 1: So you know, the Cardinals interior defensive line for me
Speaker 1: last year was just inconsistent. And some of that A
Speaker 1: lot of that was due to injuries. Guys you know,
Speaker 1: just couldn't stay healthy and so there was a kind
Speaker 1: of a short rotation of healthy guys in that interior
Speaker 1: defensive line, and I think that should be a focus
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals going forward. So real quick to both
Speaker 1: of you, if number twenty three comes around in the
Speaker 1: April draft and we're all talking guys like me talking
Speaker 1: about edge, Russia and maybe receivering cornerback, I mean, both
Speaker 1: of you guys, starting with you, Rob, if a stud
Speaker 1: defensive tackle is there at number twenty three, do you
Speaker 1: go that direction? I mean a lot of factors will
Speaker 1: we'll play into this ball and it depends. But I
Speaker 1: like the luxury of just drafting the best available player.
Speaker 1: And everybody always says that, But there are if you
Speaker 1: look at this roster, there are certain needs. There are areas.
Speaker 1: There's cornerback, there's there's a number two wide receiver. You
Speaker 1: need to solidify that position, the interior offensive line, interior
Speaker 1: defensive line. So there's a variety of positions where there
Speaker 1: is a need. But you know, if it makes sense,
Speaker 1: I would love to see a stud into your defensive
Speaker 1: line depicted at twenty three. Yeah, that's once again, I
Speaker 1: think offensive guard. For me, cornerback is huge, A wide receiver,
Speaker 1: edge player, I think they've got a lot of needs.
Speaker 1: Just take the best avaluable player, the highest rated player
Speaker 1: on your board at one of those positions, right there,
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green, the kid from Texas A and M Man
Speaker 1: if he's there at number twenty three, the guard from
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: I realize that an offensive lineman, a rookie offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: is going to go through a lot of growing pains.
Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, man, knowing that you've got
Speaker 1: some really good players that play defensive tackle and a
Speaker 1: free technique in the NFC West, I would like to
Speaker 1: see the Cardinals invest in protecting Kyler Murray well. And
Speaker 1: a lot of it will depend on free agency and
Speaker 1: what is really the Cardinal's focus in free agency that
Speaker 1: will dictate I think in large part the direction and
Speaker 1: the philosophy that they've taken in terms of the draft.
Speaker 1: And the Cardinals have been very good in free agency lately,
Speaker 1: and so this is the time for them to make
Speaker 1: a splash. And you're right, You try and go into
Speaker 1: the draft and you try and fill those needs and
Speaker 1: check those boxes. So it's not so obvious where you
Speaker 1: might go with your draft pick, right that you don't
Speaker 1: have to draft from a need perspective. But all told is,
Speaker 1: you head into this offseason free agency, in the draft combined,
Speaker 1: what is the number one priority, presuming you're going to
Speaker 1: lose Chandler Jones? Do you start with the edge If
Speaker 1: it's all about the quarterback and getting to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially in today's NFL rop, I think number one priority
Speaker 1: is solidifying that quarterback position. I'd say I think getting
Speaker 1: Kyler in a good spot mentally, whether that is extending
Speaker 1: him or if it's whatever it needs to be. You
Speaker 1: need to have your leader of your team in a
Speaker 1: good space. That's number one priority. Number two, there's certainly
Speaker 1: there are needs. We talked about them. I think cornerback,
Speaker 1: getting a lockdown cornerback is a top priority. Getting a
Speaker 1: wider number two wide receiver to help out d Hop
Speaker 1: take some pressure off of Kyler. I agree with Wolf
Speaker 1: and interior offensive lineman. I think a guard is important,
Speaker 1: very important, especially if this run game is going to
Speaker 1: really blossom, and help Kyler take some pressure off of him.
Speaker 1: And then I also I still think an interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: To me, you build a team from the inside out,
Speaker 1: so you start it inside. You start with the interior,
Speaker 1: both lines, and you work your way out for me. Paula,
Speaker 1: I could just tell you right now, it is all
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray. Assuming Kyler Murray, of course is going
Speaker 1: to be here, and I think we all do assume
Speaker 1: that you gotta protect Kyler Murray and you got to
Speaker 1: give Kyler Murray weapons. The strength of this team is
Speaker 1: going to be the offense. As long as Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is your quarterback. You gotta protect Kyler Murray and you
Speaker 1: got to give him options to throw too. So if
Speaker 1: that means wide receiver, offensive guard, prioritize those two positions specifically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are many reasons why the urgency is there right
Speaker 1: why they're targeting this coming season. We know Tampa wanted
Speaker 1: all when they hosted the Super Bowl. The Rams did
Speaker 1: the same. But think about Tom Brady went to the
Speaker 1: Bucks and won it his first year, Matthew Stafford did it,
Speaker 1: and now maybe Russell Wilson is thinking, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the Broncos and I'm gonna win a ring my first
Speaker 1: year with that team. We'll talk about the rest of
Speaker 1: the league as we continue with Rob Ferdickson on the
Speaker 1: Big Red rage A Seattam. We got him do go Hawks,
Speaker 1: Go Hawks. But I'm gonna see y'all in the morning.
Speaker 1: Finally you can go to see on the morning smoke
Speaker 1: stacks of sacks make the big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert. Maybe one last time we'll see
Speaker 1: somebody in Denver already took that clip. The last time
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson n C hard did a contract extension when
Speaker 1: they announced it around midnight from their master bedroom h
Speaker 1: and they dubbed in some Broncos talk into that. So
Speaker 1: just to recreate it, do a dramatic reenactment, except in
Speaker 1: the Denver perspective. So there you go, Russell Wilson going
Speaker 1: from the NFC West to the a f C West.
Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson is our guest, and simply plot is that
Speaker 1: what the AFC West firmly in the number one position
Speaker 1: of the division power poll in the NFL ROP. Well,
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive firepower in that division. You
Speaker 1: got a Herbert with the Chargers and Mahomes of course,
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr with the Raiders and Al Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a that's an unbelievable group of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: right there, and the AVC West. He saw what the
Speaker 1: Chargers did today and bringing in Khalil Mack, they're trying
Speaker 1: to solidify their defense because every week in that division
Speaker 1: there's there's offensive firepower for as far as you can see.
Speaker 1: Remember when the Chargers had Kelvin Ingram of course, and
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa as well, coming off those two edges right there.
Speaker 1: I think they want to get back to that right there.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see if Khalil Mack
Speaker 1: can actually fulfill that promise right there, because he didn't
Speaker 1: have a great couple of years. That's true. No, you're right,
Speaker 1: you know, the last because until the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: the only player whose numbers even compared to Cleiol Mack
Speaker 1: was Chandler Jones, you know, and sax Per attempts, sax
Speaker 1: Per snap, et cetera. So we'll see how that goes,
Speaker 1: especially with Joey Bosa on the other side. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk about the halves and the have knots guys,
Speaker 1: so Seattle firmly goes from the have to the have
Speaker 1: knots when it comes to quarterback. Think about Denver. They
Speaker 1: had started ten different quarterbacks since Peyton Manning left after
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty Each of the last five years, they
Speaker 1: had started a different quarterback on their opener Indianapolis. This
Speaker 1: year will start a different quarterback for this sixth straight year.
Speaker 1: Washington has started twelve different quarterbacks since they acquired Alex
Speaker 1: Smith from Casey in two eighteen. So it's the halves
Speaker 1: and the have knots, and I think as more time passes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn more as to what led to the
Speaker 1: departure of Russell Wilson. Here's Colin Cowherd on his radio show,
Speaker 1: Greg Olson, the former Seahawks tight end and al a
Speaker 1: Fox analyst, and the question was about whether it's Seattle's
Speaker 1: offense was anequated. I never thought they had a personnel issue.
Speaker 1: The conversations that I would have with the coaches and
Speaker 1: the amount of pushback and the amount of questions that
Speaker 1: I would get in return saying you know, we're not
Speaker 1: sure if we can do this. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: we can protect this, and I'd sit there scratching my head.
Speaker 1: It was like we were playing with a JV roster.
Speaker 1: It was like we were playing with a rookie, undrafted quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like it was very interesting to me. I just think
Speaker 1: the ideology there was always defense first, kicking, game punk
Speaker 1: the ball, field position, forced turnovers, defensive lad and then
Speaker 1: they'd hand the ball to Russ at the end of
Speaker 1: the game and say, go be magic. I just think
Speaker 1: it was part of Russell's frustration. I think it's why
Speaker 1: Russ said, I want to go somewhere where this is
Speaker 1: going to be an offensive quarterback driven team every Sunday
Speaker 1: with the ball in my hand like Aaron Rodgers, like
Speaker 1: the Stars. How about that? That's illuminating, isn't it that
Speaker 1: that rob Maybe Seattle didn't let him, didn't let Russ
Speaker 1: cook enough, and it led to his departure. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is a defensive minded coach, and that's always
Speaker 1: been the cornerstone of the Seahawks is play great defense,
Speaker 1: great special teams, and run the football. But you know,
Speaker 1: I really can't speak to whether their offense was antiquated.
Speaker 1: I will say this, given the amount that Denver had
Speaker 1: to give up to get Russell Wilson, you look around
Speaker 1: the league and it's as clear as day to me
Speaker 1: that there's no other position in professional sports that's more
Speaker 1: important than having a franchise quarterback. Yeah, it's virtually impossible
Speaker 1: to win in this league without solidifying that position, without
Speaker 1: having that quarterback that you can rely on on on
Speaker 1: and that if you know you need to make a play,
Speaker 1: he will make it. And that to me is the
Speaker 1: most important position in professional sports. There's no data bought it.
Speaker 1: And once again you have to wonder. Right now, Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett is the new head coach of the Denver Broncos,
Speaker 1: coming from the Green Bay Packers. The Packers, of course,
Speaker 1: what do they do. They go ahead, they line up,
Speaker 1: they put Aaron Rodgers under center, a lot, they run
Speaker 1: the tackle zone. They run the five plays that come
Speaker 1: off the tackle zone, whether it's a bootleg, whether it's
Speaker 1: a waggle, whether it's play action. They do it an
Speaker 1: awful lot. Guess what, That's exactly what Russell Wilson used
Speaker 1: to do with the Seattle Seahawks offense, and in Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll's offense, they're gonna do the exact same thing in Denver.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why I think they targeted
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. They're going to see him rolling out a
Speaker 1: lot more because of it. I think they're gonna run
Speaker 1: that kind of offense right there in Rundown situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Denver is already has third best odds to win the AFC.
Speaker 1: Think about that, because they do have a lot of
Speaker 1: other parts, and they do have a roster that's pretty loaded.
Speaker 1: Beyond that, what do you think of Bobby Wagner, Because
Speaker 1: think about it. You go back to the twenty twelve draft.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner were drafted one round a
Speaker 1: part art and they they were the cornerstone of the
Speaker 1: offense and defense for the last decade. About Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: leaving Seattle, and we think his market's going to be
Speaker 1: Rob Well, I think there's definitely gonna be a market
Speaker 1: for him. He's he's yeah, he might not be the
Speaker 1: player that he once was, but he's still young. He's
Speaker 1: a perennial All Pro inside linebacker. Um. I just I
Speaker 1: look at Seattle and they're they're in full rebuild mode.
Speaker 1: So they're blowing that thing up and they're clearing cap space.
Speaker 1: So you know, look, there's obviously going to be a
Speaker 1: market for Bobby Wagner. He is a stud inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have no problem. He's going to find a
Speaker 1: new home real quick. Um. But you know it's he
Speaker 1: started out with Seattle, and um, you know, he's it's
Speaker 1: been a pleasure to watch him for all these years.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't go somewhere else in the NFC West,
Speaker 1: or NFC for that matter. But you know, I respect
Speaker 1: him a ton and he's a great player. Man. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. It's the end of an era in Seattle.
Speaker 1: It is Russell Wilson. They're best player on the offense,
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner their best player on defense, No doubt about it.
Speaker 1: It is an end of an era right now. I
Speaker 1: part of me still believes Pete Carroll's gonna walk out
Speaker 1: of that facility building and hit the lights and walk
Speaker 1: out himself and say I'm done. I have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing they're gonna go through a rebuild with a
Speaker 1: seventy one year old coach. He's gonna be seventy one
Speaker 1: in September. I'm surprised that this is happening. Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: and I just say, Paulie, we actually got an indicator
Speaker 1: that things were amiss when we went up there to Seattle.
Speaker 1: We are talking to some of the analysts and they
Speaker 1: were saying, man, he does not look like Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 1: He's not going about he's not taking it on blocks,
Speaker 1: he's not going about his business the way that he
Speaker 1: always has. They thought he was playing for his next
Speaker 1: team by not actually engaging interesting And then a real
Speaker 1: quick if don't you think you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll being seventy one and entering a rebuild mode.
Speaker 1: He's got the energy of being thirty one, and this
Speaker 1: is something that might just energize him even more to
Speaker 1: start over, to scrap it and totally rebuild it. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a question of his energy if anyone,
Speaker 1: I think he's got the energy more than younger coaches
Speaker 1: in this league. I wonder if they have something up
Speaker 1: their sleep. GM John Schneider said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: really like this Malik Willis kid. And now we have
Speaker 1: the number nine pick in the draft after they saw
Speaker 1: the combine or maybe just maybe they have designs on
Speaker 1: bringing to Shaun Watson into the NFC West. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder if now you look at the rest of the
Speaker 1: roster and it doesn't exactly scream contender. And even with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson last year, they're the last place Seahawks right
Speaker 1: for the first time in like fifteen years and Wolf,
Speaker 1: we're up there. Remember the thing I remember most about
Speaker 1: up there, along with Bobby Wagner or something, was the
Speaker 1: fact that twelves we're raining booze. Yeah, team for the
Speaker 1: first time. That was a tough environment. Yeah, that that
Speaker 1: was pably. That was definitely a little weird right there.
Speaker 1: You know again, Um, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: when they talk about the schemes being antiquated, Listen, the
Speaker 1: National Football League is a blending of the old and
Speaker 1: the new. That that's where this game is headed. That's
Speaker 1: where every team has got to go. You got to
Speaker 1: be able to be an offense that can do both.
Speaker 1: You can actually blend the old schemes with the new
Speaker 1: schemes coming up. And that's why I'm a little surprised,
Speaker 1: because I do believe Pete Carroll is more old school,
Speaker 1: more traditional than he is blending that new scheme, so
Speaker 1: to speak. And because of that, that's where I thought
Speaker 1: he might hit the lights and walk out. Well, and
Speaker 1: keep in mind, you can rebuild very quick, and Seattle
Speaker 1: has a boatload of picks now draft picks. Now, you
Speaker 1: think back twenty five thirty years ago, what the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys were able to do. I'm off the heels of
Speaker 1: that herschel Walker trade and the draft capital of that
Speaker 1: they got and what they were able to do getting
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, getting Michael Irvin, Emmett Smith. You can rebuild,
Speaker 1: and you can build quickly in this league. Yeah, no doubt. Well,
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick sent out a video today of him working out.
Speaker 1: You know, he's still only thirty four, Colin Kaepernick, and
Speaker 1: he looked pretty dang athletic. Of course, he hasn't played
Speaker 1: NFL football since Week seventeen of the twenty sixteen season.
Speaker 1: But Rob, were you the one reporting that Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: going to the forty nine ers? Were you the one
Speaker 1: reporting that? No, I wasn't reporting that, But I do
Speaker 1: have something to report, Paul, Michigan State just beat Maryland
Speaker 1: and the basketball tournament I lose. I told Jim I'm
Speaker 1: under producer, that I would get us through without any
Speaker 1: mention of Michigan State, and I lost. So there we got.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks Rob, Thanks guys, appreciate you. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. March Matty. We gotta let him go. He's
Speaker 1: got to get ready for Tom Iszzo's run, an run
Speaker 1: in March Madness there former Michigan States Partan in first
Speaker 1: round pick. We'll come back, we'll talk more about the division.
Speaker 1: It zoom out around the NFL as we continue the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert second
Speaker 1: and five of the eighteen shotgun formation. Again, three receivers,
Speaker 1: two month, one right snapped, the garoppolo drops back to
Speaker 1: throw and Trouble steps up and gets hit, and down
Speaker 1: he goes. Chandler Jones was leading the way. They give
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones a full sack. He's the record holder. Chandler Jones,
Speaker 1: the all time sack king for the Arizona Cardinals. You
Speaker 1: should have seen the locker room when we announced that.
Speaker 1: They went crazy. Now the all time sack leader in
Speaker 1: the history. There's in the car. He's the guy who
Speaker 1: brings joy every day. You know, he's always smiling, he's
Speaker 1: always into it. And what a phenomenal run he's at here,
Speaker 1: no doubt, Cliff Kingsbury. After that win against the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, down goes Jimmy g and there goes Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones into the position as all time leader franchise leader
Speaker 1: in sacks, passing your former teammate the late grate Freddie
Speaker 1: Joe un Wolf. And you remember he pulled up his jersey,
Speaker 1: had that T shirt honoring Freddie Joe Nunn after he
Speaker 1: sacked Jimmy g and that got a lot of run
Speaker 1: for the right reasons. And then of course he got
Speaker 1: fine ten grand by the NFL for a uniform violation
Speaker 1: hashtag week sauce. But but Chandler did the right thing
Speaker 1: there after, making a great play and what a great
Speaker 1: weight on her Freddie Joan. Yeah, then he absolutely poly.
Speaker 1: Freddie Joe was such a great guy. And to see
Speaker 1: Chan do that, that was class act. But you know
Speaker 1: what that's been Chan, That's been Chandler Jones since he's
Speaker 1: been here. Class act. You show me how many guys
Speaker 1: signed that big money contract and actually get better. That's
Speaker 1: what Chan did. And we've had the pleasure of having
Speaker 1: him on the Big Red Rage over the years several times.
Speaker 1: He's great. I mean he is so good in front
Speaker 1: of the audience, so good on air, as Kingsbury said,
Speaker 1: so great in the locker room. So for all those
Speaker 1: reasons and more. This is what Steve Kime said when
Speaker 1: asked about Chandler Jones and then your future when he
Speaker 1: was at the combine. He's one of the twenty one
Speaker 1: that we would obviously like to have back. You know,
Speaker 1: I think we all know that market dictates that, and
Speaker 1: we'll have you know, certainly conversations with his representatives as well.
Speaker 1: And look, well, we vividly remember life before Chandler Jones.
Speaker 1: What would we say this time of year. We would
Speaker 1: always say the Cardinals need they need a pass rusher
Speaker 1: that the opposing offensive coordinator has to account for, has
Speaker 1: to game plan for. And if Chandler signs in the
Speaker 1: line of his daughter with another team for big money,
Speaker 1: which is the expectation that Cardinals got to fill that
Speaker 1: that area, I mean, that is a definite need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, Paul. And it's been so great to have
Speaker 1: Chan actually be the edge guy here for the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals over the last five years where you didn't have
Speaker 1: to really worry about, well, who's going to come off
Speaker 1: the edge, you know, and just knowing that Chan was
Speaker 1: going to be that guy. Paul. But let me just
Speaker 1: say this, I when you talk about free agency and
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals getting a free agent that is going
Speaker 1: to make a difference. Can I start with James Connor?
Speaker 1: Can I start there, paul you know that is my
Speaker 1: wish list. I'm sorry that guy changed the Arizona Cardinal's offense.
Speaker 1: I think he changed a lot of the locker room.
Speaker 1: I think he changed a lot of the perception of
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals not being a very physical team. James
Speaker 1: Connor is a guy that I would love to have back.
Speaker 1: And then after that, when you start looking around the league,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna lose chan because you're probably not going
Speaker 1: to be able to pay him seventeen eighteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, which I think he's going to get from
Speaker 1: another team, maybe Hassan Reddick come home, son, it's time
Speaker 1: for you to come home. Maybe Hassan Reddick is a
Speaker 1: name that pops up, and maybe he doesn't have quite
Speaker 1: the juice of a Chandler Jones, So maybe you could
Speaker 1: actually sign him to oh, I don't know, twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. Maybe that's wishful thanking Paulie, but I'd
Speaker 1: love to have Hassan. Yeah, I mean, and there aren't
Speaker 1: a lot of names out there, Hassan Reddick is one
Speaker 1: of them. Harold Landry was just signed to a big
Speaker 1: deal by Tennessee. He's not going to hit the market,
Speaker 1: maybe Emmanuel Ogba from Miami who's been up and coming. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at maybe a Randy Gregory who's been
Speaker 1: wildly inconsistent and has a serious checkered past. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you can shoot for the sky with von
Speaker 1: Miller if he doesn't go to Denver, But it sounds
Speaker 1: like he's lobbying and pining to go back to the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Yes, but I'm with you on the James Connor.
Speaker 1: The other position too, where you'd really like to see
Speaker 1: the Cardinals retain their own guy would be a tight end,
Speaker 1: whether it's zach Ertz and or Max Williams. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, you have zero quality tight ends under contract,
Speaker 1: and so if there's some way, somehow they could get
Speaker 1: zach Ertz and Max Williams coming off the knee injury,
Speaker 1: maybe his market value is suppressed because of that. If
Speaker 1: they could those two guys in man, would that be
Speaker 1: a good way to start the ausic. Yeah, Paulia, I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that one right there also too, if
Speaker 1: in fact we're dreaming, Okay, can I dream, Paula, Can
Speaker 1: I go ahead and actually have a wish list? Guy
Speaker 1: can I do that? How about j C. Jackson? Okay,
Speaker 1: from the Patriots. J C. Jackson, Um, listen, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to get paid. Can we have one guy
Speaker 1: that we could wish you could land one big fish?
Speaker 1: J C. Jackson the corner of course, from the Patriots
Speaker 1: six one, two hundred pounds almost two hundred pounds. A
Speaker 1: guy that can play that press man, cover that vance
Speaker 1: Joseph loves so much. Man, that those three corners right there.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, if in fact you were
Speaker 1: able to get even if Stefan Gilmore, if you were
Speaker 1: able to get Gilmore ball, can I dream on that
Speaker 1: one right there? That might be more realistic? Because jac
Speaker 1: Jackson wants like Jalen Ramsey, money, doesn't he So I
Speaker 1: don't know about but it doesn't mean you can give
Speaker 1: it to a Let's get back to your James Connor
Speaker 1: and then my zach Ertz, because here's both of them
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, this upcoming period where their futures
Speaker 1: are hanging in the balance. You know, just what easy
Speaker 1: opportunity they gave me, you know, and just relationships I
Speaker 1: built there, you know, we'd love to continue out there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, free agents. So I'm excited to see what's next.
Speaker 1: You know, a man of faith, so I know it
Speaker 1: all work out for me. I've loved my time here
Speaker 1: in Arizona. I would love the opportunity to continue here.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things out of my control. Got
Speaker 1: a lot of good players at our free agents as well,
Speaker 1: so it may not be even up to me, but
Speaker 1: I still feel like we have unfinished business as a team.
Speaker 1: I would love to be a part of it. There
Speaker 1: you go, Snack Hurts right after the season ended. That
Speaker 1: was James Connor from the Pro Bowl, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're not the only ones. How about receiver Christian Kirk.
Speaker 1: And you saw NFL Network this morning saying I know
Speaker 1: he could get anywhere from twelve to fifteen million on
Speaker 1: the open market per year. Yeah. I don't think Christian Kirk.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't think the Arizona Cardinals are going
Speaker 1: to be able to match what he's going to get
Speaker 1: out there. And I say good for Christian Kirk. Way
Speaker 1: to go, Christian. But you know what Max Williams is
Speaker 1: in a Max Williams and James Connor, Max Williams and
Speaker 1: James Connor, Paully, you go back and you look at
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal's offense when Max Williams and James Connor
Speaker 1: were running rampant. Those two guys made a difference in
Speaker 1: rundown situation first and ten, second and one to six.
Speaker 1: If Max Williams is healthy again, I'd love to see
Speaker 1: him sign Max Williams and James Connor. And well, you
Speaker 1: know this better than anyone, that physical style. Both guys
Speaker 1: play with it just it lifts the entire sideline. Defensive
Speaker 1: guys get off the bench when James Connor jack stomps
Speaker 1: a defender, when they notice that defenders are turning down
Speaker 1: the tackle. You're right. It just it's a different mentality
Speaker 1: and you need that, especially in this division. A special
Speaker 1: thanks for Rob Frederickson for joining us, Jim Almahendro, Cody
Speaker 1: Fincher for Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvc. It all starts
Speaker 1: on Monday in the negotiating, it becomes official on Wednesday,
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