1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Official Dallas Cowboys No. Your hosts, 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to another edition of Talking Cowboys, of course, 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: always joined by Mickey, Rob, Brian and myself here in 6 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studio. Finally, guys, we're at Wednesday, so 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: it's time to move on from the Denver loss. Of course, 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: remnants will follow us into the next week, but let's 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: get focused on the Cardinals. But before we do that, 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: we spent a long time yesterday kind of discussing who 11 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: might be the guy they let go for the spot 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: for de Montre Moore. Mickey, you made annoys like I 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: told you so, I was right right, Mick Elliott, Jay 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Ron Elliott. We finally learned how to pronounce his first name, 15 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: and Hardley knew you. Hardley knew I don't even know 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: if I saw him, you know, he was yours. Maybe 17 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: I didn't recognize him. Guys grew close in the two 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: weeks he was here. Yeah, it's funny. They're funny, you 19 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Tay and guys, you trade for a guy. You know, 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: you feel like you might have a little plan for him. 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: You kind of go through the leg work, and then 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks in you say, well maybe not, 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: you know. And I don't think it had anything to 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: do with the pick or anything like that. I just 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, I personally, I think Ben Wickery was going 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: to be the guy if they didn't have cornerback problems. 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: He seemed probably right. Yeah, but the but the cornerback 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: issues are now making this football team have to think 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: about some different avenues of how they're going to play 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: these games. Well, you had been Wickery for insurance for 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, right, and now it's for like the rest 32 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: of the depth chart because everybody else is banged up. 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Although you're hoping Scander's coming back this week, So they're 34 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: not going to go out and sign Darrell Revas. Not 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: to everyone on Twitter that's probably tweeted you, hey, Revas 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: still out there? Her, MARTI would be interesting, Marty might 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: be interesting. Yeah disappointed, Yeah, I'll disappointed. And yeah, you're 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: talking about dB depth. Obviously, someone who didn't start out 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: as a dB but was this past training camp, Jamil 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Showers was brought back up to the practice squad. They 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: let Nate Thinker the guard go, so you know, just 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: some different movement there and always interesting. That's that's another 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: one of those things when you let go. Maybe this 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: is me thinking differently, but I never let offensive lineman go, 45 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: especially young ones on the practice squad too, I did, 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, And I like what I saw with him, 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: the way he played, and it wasn't perfect all the time. 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: But offensive lineman, you've got to learn how to whole 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: trip and clip. You've heard me say that before. And 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I and I always worry about taking a young lineman 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: and then not fully seeing it through. You know, I mean, 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I practice squad stuff like maybe not for this year, 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: but maybe for next year, you know, kind of a thing. 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: And I think we understand what Jamie Showers is, Yeah, 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: I do. I think Jamil Showers is not going to 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: be good enough to play in the National Football League. Well, 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: he does give you some versatility in terms of he 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: can do some different things at different spots during the week. 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: He can simulate quarterback, you know, to give you some 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: different looks. Yeah. For opponent game planning. Yeah, but I 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: know we're playing read option teams and stuff. Yeah, that's 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: actually that's how they decided, Hey, he might make a 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: good safety. But you're right, I mean, he's I don't 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: think on the fifty three future roster. He's got a 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: future necessarily. I mean the reason they let him go 66 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: is they needed a wide receiver to practice last week, right, 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: so they brought on Brown. Right, that's I'm saying. I 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: don't so. I guess they could have cut Thinker last 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: week if they needed to. But maybe they needed an 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman to practice, or maybe they saw some guys 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: that worked out yesterday that they thought, when we have 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: a room, we'll bring that offensive lineman in. Yeah, I 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: hope that's you can't. I mean to me, this is 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: where this is where I look about player development though, 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: And I don't want to bog the show down that 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll do that on the Draft show one day. But 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: but player development, if you carry a guy the whole 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: entire training camp and watch him play four games, keep 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: him on your practice squad the first two weeks, and 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: then you say, ah, you know, should have done this 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: earlier than If that's the case, Bill Bill Polian echoed 82 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: what Brian said, there's no development that the old line 83 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: play is as bad as it's been in years. It's 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: not the quarter league. It's not the quarterbacks. I don't 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: think it's the quarterbacks. I think the offensive Look what's 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: going on in Seattle, Look at some Look what's going 87 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: on in New York. I mean it's bad offensive line play. 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: Where are you're developing your offensive lineman. I'm not sitting 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: there standing up the table for Nate Thinker, but I'm 90 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: just saying, though, how about some If you liked him 91 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: enough to carry him the whole year and then carry 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: him the first two weeks, is he worth carrying, you know, 93 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: the entire season on the practice squad. That's all I'm saying. Hey, 94 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: I like what you're saying. And yesterday we did get 95 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: into the justin Durant talk. And you know, as Mickey 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: alluded to, in two more weeks, they're going to have 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: another decision to make with David Irving being eligible to 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: come back. So we'll get to that in two weeks. 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's get back to the day. Officially, they 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: haven't officially done the transaction with the Monterrey more, have they. 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: That's gonna be today, It'll be today, right, They'll put 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: him on to day with eating breakfast this morning, Size, 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: did you sit with him? He's here, you know what? 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: He got to go bag. He didn't want to sit 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: him and waved at him, said come on, there's well 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: you could talk to Mickey ten spots between me and 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Big Al. That drop was that Bill Parsai. That's right. 108 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: See Bill is pretty smart. Are you talking to Mickey? 109 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: He knows, he knows. So what do you know? Mick? 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the Cowboys offense and the Cardinals defense, 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: So Mick, why don't you start us off? The Cowboys 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: offense wasn't very good on Sunday's time up again, thank 113 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: you against the Broncos. We're now focusing on Arizona. We're 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: moving on in practic yet I don't know if we 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: should move on until they practice. You know, you don't 116 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: want to know. I'm I'm good. It's kind of a 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: funky week. We did get the media availability this week 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: for the Monday night game, and of course it's today 119 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: is like a Tuesday, so there will be a four 120 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: pm locker room Tomorrow. They'll start practice for Mickey to 121 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: get some some grindings, just have an opinion yes, and 122 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: then Friday we'll be able to give you an opinion 123 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: offense one very good. You never have an opinion. You're 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, right, you're the worst. Time he has 125 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: an opinion. Trying to have a show here, I just 126 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: try to be right. The problem exactly right, that's exactly 127 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: what you do. The problem is you're an after the fact, 128 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: right guy? No, yes, you are? Is it retroactive? Right? Guy? Is? 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Did I not tell you if they gave up one 130 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards rushing last week to the Bronco? 131 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: How about going to get how about how about talking 132 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: a little about Arizona? Then what do you think they 133 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: need to do against Arizona? You sent me a guy 134 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: or of the same. Yeah, you want to talk about 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with the guy that you want to tell 136 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: us more about that the cow? Oh, that's where we 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: were going. That's where we're going. I didn't understand where 138 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: you were going. You never did, you never do far. 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: For the course, I speak a different language than him. 140 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Obviously we're playing. I didn't hear anything about telling me 141 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: more as the first time it came out of anybody's mouth. 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Just play, let's go, let's go. What do you want 143 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: to do? Me to go first? Yeah, tell us about 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: a defensive player for the Arizona Cardinals. You like, I 145 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: like former University of Missouri linebacker Marcus Golden, automatic winner, 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: who is kind of listed as a three four outside 147 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: linebacker there will linebacker, but against Indianapolis, which goes normally 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: three wide receivers or four, he's basically the left defensive end. 149 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: That's true, So Leale Collins get ready because Marcus Golden, 150 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: in his second year in the National Football League last 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: year first year as a full time starter, finished with 152 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: twelve and a half sacks, which tied him for third 153 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: in the league, and the only two guys that had 154 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: more were Vick Beasley with fifteen and a half and 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: Von Miller with thirteen and a half, So that tells 156 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: you the type of season he had. As a matter 157 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: of fact, it was the most sacks by a linebacker 158 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: in Cardinal's history. It's a long history. So they better 159 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: be ready for this guy. Uh. He's already got four 160 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: quarterback pressures, two quarterback hits, and he's pretty active on 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: that outside. And it looks like they don't care what 162 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: he does about against the run. They want him getting 163 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: up the field and at the quarterback. So beware and 164 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Collins first three, gotten a break better, get ready, no defense. 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: That's a good on all around too. Yeah. So Marcus 166 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Golden was kind of the unsung linebacker at Missouri when 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: they had that last good season, and a couple of 168 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: years ago, Shane Ray was the guy everybody looked at. 169 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals said when they were looking at tape 170 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: of Shane Ray, they kept coming back to who's the 171 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: guy on the other side because he wasn't built like 172 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: a defensive right. Both of them weren't built like defensive ends. 173 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: They were more built like linebackers. They're kind of stocky, 174 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: aren't that They're more fast and quick. Did you did 175 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: you see two years ago when they had the protest 176 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: on campus. Yeah, yeah, I heard him. It killed not 177 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: only recruiting in football, recruiting at the university. Period. Break 178 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: before we got a joke, it's serious business. Before we 179 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: get to Rob and Brian's guys, we actually have a 180 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: caller on the line, and you guys can still call 181 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: it numbers two and four, eight seven, two, twenty one 182 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: and two. So we want to get to Kyle in 183 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Kentucky sec Area. Hi, uh, I just want to call 184 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: and say I lifted your guys show all the time 185 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: on my compete commute to work and uh that Uh, 186 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: I think you guys to do a great job. Had 187 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: a couple of questions, Um, just to skip over, you 188 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: know that offense from last week another better team than 189 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: how they played. You know, it's basically the same offense 190 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: that they had last year. Um one about Jordan Lewis. Um, 191 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I just want to know what your guy's take was 192 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: on how well he played like a man and uh 193 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: zone and how he did And another is I like 194 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: how they play DeMarcus Lawrence on that left side. I 195 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: think he does a great job there. Um do you 196 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: do you think do you think that's his best spot 197 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: or do you think, uh, you just think he'd played 198 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: well on that right defensive end? That's it thing thing? Okay, 199 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: let's answer, thank you. Well. I do think DeMarcus Lawrence 200 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: is fitting right perfectly there at the left end with 201 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: four sacks on his name. Absolutely looks good over there, 202 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: looks healthy and looks lighter. Those are the things. I 203 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: don't think he looks as bulky as he once did. 204 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I think it's helped him with his movement. He's drawn 205 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that he's been able to take 206 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: good advantage of and good defensive ends will always take 207 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: advantage of blockers that they can, and so I give 208 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: him full credit for that fact. He's playing next to Collins. 209 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: We showed that yesterday, broke down three plays his sack. 210 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, with him and Collins working together, he's been 211 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: he's been outstanding. And so yeah, I think that the 212 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: left end is probably his best side because of his 213 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: he has a to me watching him rush from that side, 214 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: he seems to have better angles getting to the quarterback 215 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: than he does from the right, and so I'm all 216 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: for him stand on that left side. Let him try 217 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: and figure out what's going on on that right side. 218 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: That's something that you know, Mickey talked about yesterday with 219 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Benson Mayo. While they need to figure something out over there, 220 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: and maybe they figured it out with the Monterrey Moore 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: coming back this week. Rob, you got anything to add 222 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: to that. He said it, I said it yesterday. He's 223 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: lost a few pounds to help with the back, help 224 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: alleviate some of the problems he's been having with it. 225 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: As long as he's holding up against the run on 226 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: the left side, on the strong side, then keep him there, 227 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, and try to try to figure out a 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: rotation on that right side. They need more pressure on 229 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: that right side. Been the best guy on their defensive line. Yeah, 230 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: there's no sense messing with it. And you know, from 231 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: what I saw of the cardinal's right tackle, he may 232 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: get two more. Yeah. I wrote about that today. I'll 233 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: be matchups tomorrow. That'll go out tomorrow. So check that 234 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: one out as well. It's might keeping one for Cover 235 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: four today. We mentioned Mickey on Cover four yesterday. Yeah, 236 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure he saw it. He such an avid watcher, 237 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: watch every episode, every episode, Mickey, why don't you answer 238 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: his question about Jordan Lewis's play, Well, he played a 239 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: lot for a guy that practiced one week. Get ready, 240 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: did some good things, had some problems. Can't lose your 241 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: footing when a guy does in and out pivot move. Yeah, 242 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: route on you. But he came back and the thing 243 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: I liked about his performance is cornerbacks are going to 244 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: get beat. You know, there's a reason why they got 245 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: receivers in this league catching eighty to ninety to one 246 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: hundred passes. But the big thing is you got to 247 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: come back and play and keep competing. And he came 248 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: back and got a pick. Now, I know the ball 249 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: was poortally thrown, but he caught it. And that's big 250 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: with this secondary because a lot of times they don't 251 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: catch things. So I think first time out, I think 252 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: it was encouraging and be interesting to see what he 253 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: does with a full week of practice at maybe the 254 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: position he's going to have to play. Yeah, I have 255 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: no problem with out there throwing him out there. If 256 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: they the hype about him really was after the draft. 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: You know, if you talk to the scouts, they were 258 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: even they were more excited about him than even a Woozier, 259 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: And it looks like a Woozier might be a little 260 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: compromised this week. Nothing wrong with throwing Jordan Lewis out 261 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: there and letting him play, you know, and then see 262 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: if he cover him up and get a full week 263 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: of practice, like Mickey said, And you know, and if 264 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: it's Scandrick Brown and Jordan Lewis, I heck, that's their 265 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: best three, go for it. You know. If you remember 266 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: in in OTA's you know, when he finally got here, um, 267 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, they were playing him inside like he was 268 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: a nickel right because of his size, and then he 269 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: did that, so well, it's like, oh, let's put him outside, right, 270 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: and he started playing outside on second team, So yeah, 271 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: he's got he's gotta let something to him. Length he's got. 272 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: He might not be the tallest guy, but he's got 273 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: the long arms they talk about with scouts. That's what 274 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: something Will McClay will play with a shorter corner, shorter 275 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: being five ten if you have reach, and that's something 276 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: that he has. And he's got ball skills obviously you 277 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: saw the way he played it the other day. He's 278 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: quick footed. You know, he could go out really get 279 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: bullied a little bit with bigger guys maybe, but he's 280 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: very competitive. But if it's if it's Scandrick Brown and 281 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Lewis this week for the three, I'm taking my chances 282 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: and going with it. That's if that's the best combination 283 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: you got that go forward. Did he get I'm trying 284 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to remember, was he the one that get he did 285 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: he get the interference caller? Or was it Brown? Yeah? Brown? Remember? 286 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Also well Brown got a pillot he hit he hit 287 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: hit the receiver in the face with hands. I thought 288 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: it was my hands of face. And then there was 289 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: a second shove out of bounce which a gown it 290 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: for pass interference. So again Brown, There's nothing wrong with 291 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Brown in my opinion at all. I like how competitive 292 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: he is out there. I think he cares about it. 293 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: He's a passionate player. You know, these cornerbacks, it's tough. 294 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: It was tough the other day. They had to deal 295 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: with some guys that are pretty damn good, so find 296 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: a way to make some place. They did. And before 297 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: we do get to your guys, we do have tell 298 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: me more for those listenings, so keep tune to that. 299 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: But did you guys see what Joe Thomas came out 300 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: and said about is Zee Gilliott. I know, we talked 301 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: about what LT and Dion Sanders have said about Cowboys players. 302 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Did not Joe Thomas came out and was talking about Ezekiel. 303 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of criticism about Ezekiel's effort on the 304 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: interception in different things, and Joe Thomas, you can't really 305 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: criticize him for his plays played ten thousand snaps consecutively. 306 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: So he came out and said that Zeke needs to 307 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: learn how to lose, And I thought was an interesting 308 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: comment because obviously Joe Thomas is very familiar with that 309 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: losing one hundred and fourteen games since he was drafted 310 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven. But I don't think that's 311 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: kind of the mantra of this team is that you 312 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: would ever learn how to lose. I know what he's saying, Hey, 313 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: don't give up even when things are going a different 314 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: way than you expected. But I spoke to it Monday, 315 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: I guess when we were trying to make sense of 316 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: what happened, because that's not him. He is. His physicalness 317 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: at the running back position. His competitiveness is contagious on 318 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: this offense. So he's a competitor. I don't think the 319 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: coaching staff is worried about him going forward that way 320 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: because of what he's been since he's been here. But 321 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: he was frustrated. He was frustrated in that moment. He 322 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: can't get any traction in the running game. They're getting 323 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: blown out, and he's, to Joe Thomas's point, he's not 324 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: used to losing football games. Didn't in high school, rarely 325 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: lost games at Ohio State, and the game he lost 326 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: where the worst rushing game he had was seventeen fourteen. 327 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: It's Michigan State, and he called out the coaching staff 328 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: after the game. The guy hates losing, and you know 329 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: he's a young player, and that was a moment I'm 330 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: sure he'd like to have back. I don't want my 331 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: guy ever to get used to losing exactly. That's what 332 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: And you know it doesn't make it okay. I'm not excusing. 333 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Why have of a sudden is everybody got all these 334 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: players speaking up? What's the deal here? Everybody trying to 335 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: look forward to their second career and say, say, I 336 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: got opinions. I can be an announced. Yes, yes they 337 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: are look over and see anything that's on ESPN orround 338 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: a full network mostly former players's job is to give 339 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: opinions on that and that's fine. You know that's fine, 340 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: and that's his opinion. Yeah, but you know he'll move forward. 341 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see this again. And Joe ended 342 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: it by saying, hopefully he'll learn from this. But by 343 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: the way, he had all those snaps like he had 344 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: never missed a snap machine. All he needed was his 345 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: shoe to fall off one time or his helmet to bust. 346 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: It never happened, never happened, So think about that. I 347 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: mean his say, his helmet, his chin strap breaks, a 348 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: piece of his helmet breaks, and he has to sit 349 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: out of play. That's it. Now, this may be that's 350 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: how that's how fragile streak like that is. This may 351 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: be a dumb question because I thought of it driving 352 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: in the day when I heard that, Has Travis Frederick 353 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: ever missed the snap? Has he missed a play a game? 354 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I believe just missed a snap? I think we were 355 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: looking at that last Yeah. See, it happens to be. 356 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: Maybe at an end of a game, if you get 357 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: a blowout situation, you put Joe Looney in or whoever. 358 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, because I was trying to remember those guys 359 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: didn't play in the finale last year. Is that count? Yeah? Yeah, 360 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: it does so well. Didn't he stress to the start 361 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: at least? Yeah? But he didn't play the whole play 362 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: the whole game. Yeah, that doesn't count. It does count 363 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: to this. It was I'll tell you this about Ezekiel Elliott. 364 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: And this is another thing that we did make that 365 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: cut and breakdown, you know, even after the interception, you know, 366 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: which everybody was very critical of Peter King mainly you know, 367 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: if you watch we broke down a play where he 368 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: blitz picked up yeah on and if he doesn't pick 369 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: up that blitz and parks coming off the edge. Dak 370 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Prescott is going to wear a safety right in the 371 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: side of his head. I mean the touchdown passed to 372 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: Jason Witten was lot. A lot of it had to 373 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: do with the fact that ezekiel It had the awareness 374 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: to stay with his man and then and then on 375 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: the second interception that they threw that went back one 376 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: hundred and three yards, another blitz pick up that allowed 377 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: the ball to get to the outsideld you that yesterday? Yeah, No, 378 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: one wanted to believe it out there. Yeah, we're gonna 379 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: says if he doesn't picked up, so it's never an interception. No. 380 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: But see that's a saying acts on the ground. Yeah, 381 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: that swims saying it's it's it's People want to say 382 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: that his effort is not good and he should have 383 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: in this, and that you need to look at the 384 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: whole game. It's like watching It's like watching Lyle Collins 385 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: play against von Miller. You think, well, at the end 386 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: of the game, you're like going, well, he was terrible. 387 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: Well watch all the plays, watch all sixty six plays 388 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: and see where he's at. That to me is always 389 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: you know when you when you want to be critical 390 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: about players. Study the player, study their game, study what 391 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: they're doing, and then make a comment. It's really easy 392 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: for Peter King to sit there in New Jersey and 393 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: go he's not trying. Well, Peter, I'm sorry, he blitz 394 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: picked up on that played at least get him, you know, 395 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and he tried to blitz pick up again 396 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: to get him another touchdown. So be a little bit 397 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: more conscious of that. Yeah, all right, Well, let's take 398 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: our first break here in the SWUBC mortgage studio. When 399 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: we come back, they're gonna tell me more where they 400 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: are going to tell you more. 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He's making 462 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: a transition to inside linebacker in their base three four defense. 463 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a transition for him, 464 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: but it's an important position he's playing because it's a 465 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: unique style that they have in Arizona. Dion Buchanan's one 466 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: of their top players. They've actually renamed his position, like 467 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: literally in their media guide and stuff, it's money linebacker 468 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: with a dollar sign over it. Okay, that's how important 469 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: is rule money? Yeah? To what they do, and it's 470 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: a unique type of hybrid linebacker. He's only about two 471 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds, flies around. He's a nice matchup 472 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: for the way offenses are going where it's more spread, 473 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: so he's able to cover, he's able to rush, he 474 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: can fly around, make tackle. They see Reddick and kind 475 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: of this role and he's only about two hundred and 476 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty pounds. Looked really good in the opener against Detroit, 477 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: had eight tackles, really closing, making plays. They have a 478 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: lot of confidence in him, but you know he's still learning. 479 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: He gave us some catches last week against the Colts, 480 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: and we'll see if Buchanan can can do more in 481 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: practice this week. He was limited last week. If he 482 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: comes back, that's a big boost for Arizona. But you 483 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: think about what the Cowboys struggle with running the ball. 484 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Let's see if you know Reddick can can do something 485 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: to try to stop the Cowboys again. This way tesk 486 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: really good and now is really good because it's exactly 487 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: what the tape is showing and the Cowboys running the football. 488 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: This week, they played with a lot of hybrid players. Yea. 489 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: They play a lot with the Buddha Bakers, you remember 490 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: him from the Draft show, the Honey Badger, Turn Matthew. 491 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: They play with a lot of those strong safety, linebacker, 492 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 1: defensive end kind of guys. Everybody can run. Everybody a 493 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: lot of speed. If you do not get a hat 494 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: on this guy on Reddick on the second level as 495 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: he's running, he will make every tackle. Yeah, I mean 496 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: that that that's what's gonna be those four yard gains. 497 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 1: You know, those six seven eight yard gains could be 498 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: four yard games or three yard gains because of their 499 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: ability to run to the football and make play. So 500 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be on It's gonna be on Chaz Green, 501 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be on Frederick, and it's gonna be on 502 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Zach Martin. To make sure that they get up on 503 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: that second level to keep a guy like Reddick from 504 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: running because he can do that. Big time athlete, yeah 505 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: money linebacker aeriously like that. They've they've created a new 506 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: position basically the way they named it. Do you think 507 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: you know Mickey has a name tag above his desk, 508 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: could we change his to money mickey, or yeah, let's 509 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: do it like you maybe somebody will make some donations. Yeah, 510 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: how they didn't. But on their depth shut and their 511 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: release where they shy. I wanted to see money on 512 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: side joke money money. If you read their website, they 513 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: literally call it that. Anyway, don't Nick, I'm right, just 514 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: don't you. Don't try to debunk it. It's it's a 515 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: bit I'm saying they should have done it, all right, 516 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: put set a strong side linebacker. That's bad. Hey, John 517 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: Bones Jones, very famous boxer from He trains in the 518 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: state of New Mexico, and a lot of people don't 519 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: realize that, Yes, he is related to Chandler Jones, who 520 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: is Brian's guy today. That second brother is his brother, 521 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is I'll say you what Chandler Jones looks 522 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: like he's list as a sam linebacker. He's really like 523 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: a defensive end when you watch him rush. What I 524 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I what I'm impressed is a guy that long that 525 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: rangie has to stop start quickness that he does. You know, 526 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that can lull a tackle 527 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: into into thinking that, Okay, I'm not going to rush you, 528 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: and then there's that burst. He's got that stop start 529 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: type of quickness. And he's really, as I said, really long, 530 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: and so when he the way he plays, he's a 531 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: controller with his hands, grab, reach, slap whatever he has 532 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: to pull him stuff up. Yeah, but he's just one 533 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: of those It's like the guys that they dealt with, 534 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: the Giants, the Pierre Paul's the long kind of guy. 535 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: But this guy, I'll tell you what. Though he is 536 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: on the edge, he doesn't give up much in the 537 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: running game, and as a pass rusher, you have to 538 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: worry about him because when he comes off the edge 539 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: inside they like to move him around and let him 540 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: try and do some things that way to attack the pocket. 541 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: He can create problems in the pocket because of his 542 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: because of his reach, go and buy the quarterback, reach back, 543 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: get the football. So I got to keep an eye 544 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: on Chandler Jones. You got a guy. I got a guy. 545 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: But it's kind of interesting the way that I set 546 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: my guy up, because obviously everyone knows about Patrick Peterson, 547 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: that's my guy. But really, what I want to tell 548 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: you about is what he leads to is the weakest 549 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: link on this defense, and that would be Justin Bethel. 550 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: I think cornerback Justin Bethel is actually the weakest link 551 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: on this defense, obviously the strongest being Patrick Peterson, the 552 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: six time Pro bowler, three time All Pro guy that 553 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: everyone knows and loves. Right, you're a guy from lsu WI. 554 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: No one picked Tony Badger. Yeah, hey, we all know 555 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: about Honey Badgers. Let's hope he doesn't make a bunch 556 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: of plays. There's It's kind of like last week. There's 557 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: a lot of names you can pick good defense. Yeah, yeah, Well, 558 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson is obviously going to be matched up with 559 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: Dez Bryan and we've seen how Dez is done against 560 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: big time cornerbacks in the first two games, but in 561 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: the first two games for Justin Bethel, he's already surrendered 562 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Yeah. So I want this Cowboys offense to 563 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: attack Justin Bethel, and I want you guys to tell 564 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: me how can this offense pray on this week? Part 565 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: of the secondary? Do they follow the travel travel? So 566 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Peterson's going to be with Peter already talks about it. Yeah, Yeah, 567 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a traveling so get ready for that. 568 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: So they're gonna Bethel will have to play both sides. Well, 569 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: then it's a Terrence Williams kind of game. Yeah, on 570 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: the other side, find a way to win on the 571 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: other side. If you can with Bethel, I mean, you've 572 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: got to be able to You're gonna have to be 573 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: able to throw the ball here. I'll tell you this 574 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: to guys. And maybe I'm speaking out of turn here, 575 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: but I still go after Peterson a little bit. I 576 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: still go after Peterson with Dez Bryant. I don't think 577 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: you could totally just say, okay, just because he's taken 578 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant in this game that he you can't try 579 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: and throw the football to Brian's way, especially if these 580 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: officials again, let these guys play a little bit, you know, 581 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: that's the one thing. If Peterson he can be physical 582 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: off the line, but there'll be times where he could 583 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: get a little bit bullied, but disability to stay with 584 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, I still think you have to go his 585 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: direction selectively. But you can't be late with your throws 586 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: and you can't be indecisive with your throws because he 587 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: will make you pay. But Bethel is a very good choice. 588 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: If it turns into a into somebody on the other 589 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: side has to win Jason Winton has to win. Cole 590 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Beasley has to win against the Honey Badger. You know, 591 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things you need in this 592 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: football game. That's that's you mentioned Honey Badger, Like, that's 593 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: the matchup I want to see again. I worry about 594 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: him letsing. He's all over the place. Yeah, they list 595 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: him on their depth chart as a free safety. Anything 596 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: but a free safety. He's always around the line of scrimmage. 597 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: You don't know if he's covering, if he's blitzing. Not 598 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: like Paula Malo, they just kind of let him roam. 599 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, the interception that he had against the Colts, 600 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: that was the first play in overtime. It was like 601 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: the worst decision throw I've ever seen, because if he 602 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't pick it off, the other guy was gonna pick 603 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, but he's all over the place, and 604 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: so he's always around the line of scrimmage. We know 605 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: he plays like his hair's on fire, and you don't 606 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do. You don't know if he's 607 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: a wild card player. He's gonna jump routes, or if 608 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna cover the guy, or if he's gonna come 609 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: off his guy and go somewhere else. They just kind 610 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: of let him freelance and boy, just watching a half, 611 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: it's like, whooh, Yeah, he's the guy that you thought 612 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: he was before he got himself in trouble. Yeah, all right, 613 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Well let's go to the phone lines. We have a 614 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: friend of the show. Philippe from France is on the line. Hi, guys, 615 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Yeah? I have a senty hell 616 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: from a boogoing Fance. I love all the show and 617 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: thanks for all the stuff you do on the website 618 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: for fitting me with Cowboys News. Just two things about 619 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: six demeanor. The kid has alone, has a lot hanging 620 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: above his head, and he's a human being. I don't 621 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: know anyone able to focus on his job with that 622 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: much pressure outside. Sometimes you can havele it down, even 623 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: though you're the toughest tess of being on earth. I mean, 624 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: even General George S. Patton, I consider the toughest one 625 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: ever had down days. I have a question for Brian Mickey, 626 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: would you feel better if you have John silent killer 627 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: g sake or give or giving Nasty Brother Coogan meaning 628 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: the left guard for the remaining of the season. I mean, 629 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: Collins seems to have the nasty meaning required to play online. 630 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: But I question Greens, thanks for taking Michael, have a 631 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: great day. Go Cowboys. Thank you Gogan and John Gi 632 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: like old school cowboys. That's what I heard. Hey, he's 633 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: a true fan. He's calling all the way from France. 634 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: Great call. You know what, Smith Green chats Green two 635 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: games in. I in studying Chads Green, I have not 636 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: been disappointed with him, and and I understand. I think 637 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: what he was asking about the physical toughness, that that 638 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: that nasty kind of demeanor and maybe he doesn't see 639 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: that in Chads Green. I think Chads Green has done 640 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: a nice job working with Smith and Frederick and some 641 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: of some of the things that we were really really 642 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: worried about, that maybe that he would be a better tackle. Myself, 643 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I thought that would be the case, but he seems 644 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: to be fitting in nicely at guard and the struggles 645 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: in the running game, I couldn't point to him. You 646 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: know now then miss block is every once in a while, 647 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: not him, but other guys. Yeah, but I think for 648 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: what you're asking him do they passed a couple of 649 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: stunts the other day. It looked like to me that 650 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: Frederick was a lot more confident Smith was confident in 651 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: that is he Ron Leary. No, he's not. But I 652 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: don't think that for the first two weeks that I 653 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: could say the left guard has been the problem with 654 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, he's not run Leary yet. Also, 655 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: the first two games he's ever played at guard. Yeah, 656 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: and I thought I wasn't like there he was the 657 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: problem up there. No, they all were the problem. Yeah, 658 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: as a group of five, But I didn't see him 659 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: like getting bullied around or pushed off the line of scrimmage. 660 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: You know. I thought it was encouraging, let's put it 661 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. Hey, I like hearing that. And I 662 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: think sometimes Chad's and kind of gets that rap of 663 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: not being as tough he's He's a quiet guy, and 664 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: the injuries, the injury history makes him seem like he's 665 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: not a tough guy, and guys like me saying that 666 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: he's always hurt doesn't help his doesn't help it. Yeah, 667 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: he has been sure on wood. So anyway, but guys, 668 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: we got to get to the Cowboys offense, and we 669 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: told you a lot about this Cardinals defense, and we 670 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about how it could be a 671 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: good day for Terrence Williams. Is Ezekie Elliott going to 672 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: get back on track and how can he do that? Yeah? 673 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: I think they block for him. Yeah, I think that. 674 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a little bit more complex 675 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: than that, Mickey, But I'll go with you when you're 676 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: staying there. Uh. The to me, though, it is it 677 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: is going to take a certain bit of of just 678 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: will you know, And we always talk about and it's 679 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: just a little bit of will, but we talk about 680 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of will you know. You can't have breakdowns 681 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: when an offensive. The thing that was disappointed me about 682 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: the other day at nine and the nine Zeke carries, 683 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: four of those were when they were in twelve personnel, 684 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: which is one of their best blocking formations, you know, 685 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: when they when they have the two tight ends when 686 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: it's Witten and Hanna and all that involved. Because it 687 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: wasn't in that game. It wasn't in that game. So 688 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's to me, it's it's it's 689 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: a little bit more deeper than that, and you have 690 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: to find if you've got if you've got seven blockers 691 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: and you're not getting the job done, that's that's on 692 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: your line. That is on your line right there, and 693 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: it's on your tight ends too, So they've got to 694 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: find a way to get back to where they where. 695 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: When when this team is really rolling running the football, 696 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: it's hats on hats. It's no leakage, it's no guys 697 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: getting beat at the line of scrimmage. The tight ends 698 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: aren't losing either, they're not. They're capturing the edge, the 699 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: balls getting to where it needs to be. There's holes there. 700 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: They got guys up on the second level. So that's 701 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: really what it's really going to come down to. The 702 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys can they can they find a way? It's another 703 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: three four team basically that we talked about, has a 704 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: really good defensive speed. You know, can you find a 705 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: way to physically take it to them? And you know, 706 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are not going to just allow you to 707 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: do that. They're gonna they're gonna play a stout front 708 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get their guys to the ball. But 709 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you if individual guys don't get 710 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: their blocks, you know, have one breakdown out of six 711 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: or seven, you're not going to run the football. Generally, 712 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: those outside linebackers and the three four are faster than 713 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: defensive ends. Right, You think it was the speed that 714 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: gave those guys problems because they had problems on the edge. Yeah, 715 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: I think they had. I think when I watched they 716 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: the Bronco game, especially guy like Derek wolf Okay, Derek 717 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Wolfe was a guy that we talked about put on 718 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: more weight. He went from two hundred and eighty pounds 719 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: to three hundred pounds. And what happened was when they 720 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: when you don't cut off lineman, when they're when the 721 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: scheme requires you to reach or to make cut off blocks, 722 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: and that you go to the ground and those guys 723 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: are running free. That gives Zekeel nowhere to cut. And 724 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: we've seen him before make those cut to make people miss, 725 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: but that was a problem in that game. They got 726 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: to him before he could even cut, and that was 727 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: a big Now a Zego had one run where I 728 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: felt like if he would have pressed it frontside hard, 729 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: he could have probably hit it for a pretty decent gain. Instead, 730 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: he bent the ball back in. What happened they didn't 731 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: get the backside cut off, and now he's tackled for 732 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: a gain of one. It's that's what it really comes 733 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: down to. The most disappointing thing to me was again 734 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: twelve personnel where they usually run the football, Well they 735 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't and they got to get back to getting in 736 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: twelve personnel and running the ball. Well can they handle 737 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: their speed? That's my question. Yeah, Wolf was in the 738 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: backfield a lot the other day. It's not the same 739 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: as the Denver's defense, but it is a defense that's 740 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: got a good front, seven good good dbs that can 741 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: play man to man. So we'll see. We'll see if 742 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: they'll try to replicate what the Broncos did. But I 743 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: just I can't imagine the Cowboys defense getting overmatched two 744 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: weeks in a row Cowboys offensive line, I just can't. 745 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing that. We'll see, we'll see. 746 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we do have another color on the line. 747 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: From enemy lines. We have Mike from Philly. What is 748 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: your question? Yes, I am behind enemy lines, but I'm 749 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: not the enemy. I promise you are not. You're calling 750 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: into the show. We can see that. Yeah, I know 751 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: you guys are talking offense, but if you don't mind, 752 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: I have a question about the defense. I'm wondering, at 753 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: what point, if Anny, do we actually start to look 754 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: at Rod Marinelli or maybe Joe Baker because I'm starting 755 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: to get concerned about the way the defensive backs are 756 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: being coached, and I'm wondering if they're not being coached 757 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of conservatively because I you know, we saw this 758 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: problem with Barry Church and Brandon Carter. They just seem 759 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: to play off a lot. They rarely take risks to 760 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, jump to jump routes and things of that nature, 761 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: and seems like their their instincts are being coached out 762 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: of them. And we see the guys that we have now, 763 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: they were you know, they were ballhawks in college. They 764 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: had quite a few interceptions in college across the board, 765 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just starting to wonder how these guys are 766 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: being coached in practice. So if you guys don't mind 767 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: answering that one these guys being coached in college. Ohead rap. 768 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: We kind of got that question yesterday about off coverage 769 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: on third down. Yeah, does the youth have to do 770 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: with something to do with that? Well, it has to 771 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: do with what Mickey brought up the other day about 772 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and doing some different college rules type things. Yeah, yep, 773 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: I think to me that you know, we were out 774 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: there for training camp. We watched Joe Baker and Greg Jackson. 775 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: Those guys coach hard. This team doesn't. The idea is 776 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: not to give up big plays. That's that's what they did. 777 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: It was a terrible game for them the other day 778 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: when it came to having to deal with that. I mean, 779 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: there were some big plays and there were some big 780 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: game plays running. There were some mistackles that led to 781 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: some big plays. I mean that that's that's the you know, 782 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: it's not a ben but don't break a group. It's 783 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: it's more than that. But they but the way they 784 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: play is is it a conservative scheme in a lot 785 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,959 Speaker 1: of ways? Yeah? Is it a scheme though you don't 786 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of bus I would take this scheme 787 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: over what I saw under the Rob Ryan administration. Give 788 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: me that every single time where they're almost reckless. Maybe 789 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: there's ten there's ten guys on the field, there's twelve 790 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: guys on the field. Nobody knows where to line up, 791 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: nobody knows where to play. Guys are running free. And 792 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: give me if this team, this team covers and they 793 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: tackle well, then they're not going to give up big plays. 794 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: They're not. It's gonna be a defense that that is 795 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: gonna be able, like we saw last year to win 796 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: thirteen games, we saw that. But they need help in 797 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: the offense though too. They do need a ball control 798 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: role offense. They do need to finish strives. They don't 799 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: need to be poor in the red zone, you know. 800 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: But the coaching aspect of it, I just think that 801 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: that's what the players, that's the way they want to 802 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: play this. They don't want to give up those big plays. 803 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: It's Rods blueprint. We use that word yesterday. I mean, 804 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: it's it's not always a pure Cover two scheme, but 805 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: they try to keep everything in front of them and 806 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: make make you go twelve plays down the field until 807 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: you make a mistake or have to punt and not 808 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: and like Brian said, not give up big plays. So 809 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: do they want more takeaways, Absolutely, but they're trying to 810 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: force you to run that clock and hopefully keep you 811 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: to field goals while your offense scores touchdowns. Many takeaways 812 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: they have in two games three three yeah, one in 813 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: the Giants, two in the Giants, right, Yeah, it was 814 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: the fumble and the interception. Yeah, and then they had 815 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: another funble and interception, so they didn't get the fumble 816 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: though they didn't get the Giants that's okay. Yeah, No, 817 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. Two in the Broncos and the Giant. Yep, 818 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: they're on pace for twenty four. Now. It's very very 819 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: very early, but that's where they're at. See the thing too, 820 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: is they're getting they're getting pressure from Lawrence, They're getting 821 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: pressure from it. I mean this, this defense needs its 822 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: offense to be good. It really they really needs them 823 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: not to turn the ball over. That's true. That's true. No, no, 824 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 1: no team in the NFL needs their offense to turn 825 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: the ball over. That's a that's a very stute point, Mickey. 826 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad you made that. And the fact that they 827 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: gave up what was it the one touchdown that was 828 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: set up by a twenty nine yard was it a 829 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: kickoff return? Remember the kickoff return that Xavier Woods got 830 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: hit in the back. And yet return punt return, punt return. 831 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: They don't need that either. See that. There's so many 832 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: things when this team, it has to have a lot 833 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: of things go right. But they have the talent to 834 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: play and it it's we saw it. They won thirteen games. 835 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like though that when you 836 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: get the offense back on track, when you get it 837 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: back going in the red zone. You know that will 838 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: help this defense. Davis need this offense to find ways 839 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: to put pressure on opposing offense and where they're not 840 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: on the field for a long long time. I mean 841 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: the top missed tackles. Yeah, yeah, that off time of 842 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: possession was out of whack. Yeah, they missed tackles as 843 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: much as they struggled though the fourteen. The two touchdowns 844 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys got were off takeaways from their defense. Yeah. 845 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna go to our final break 846 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: here in the SBbc Mortge studio. When we come back, 847 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit of Rob's pole to get 848 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: to and much more so join us after this break. 849 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: To work this big land, you need equipment with values 850 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: rooted as deep in Texas soil as you are. 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Today 881 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: this is talking chowblorries. No, why Papa John's pizza tastes 882 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: so great? The ingredients like the veggies delivered freshhold, never 883 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: frozen in the pepperoni one one hundred percent pork and 884 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: beef custom made for US, meaning Papa John's and made 885 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: to USDA standards with absolutely no fillers. And with the 886 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: ingredients like that, you get better pizza and it's Papa John's. 887 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: Did the guy last night have good ingredients in your 888 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 1: TV show there? Brian? Yeah, No, that was they had 889 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: really good and grades had fresh and grades. Mickey's getting 890 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: on me because I watch YouTube videos of guys making 891 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: pizzap dish pizza for any awesome? Did I love that? 892 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: Did they do it right? Oh gosh yes? Were they 893 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: from Chicago? Oh? Yes? Were they Italian? Yes, Cicily? Yeah 894 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: they those are the ingredients there you go? Yeah? What else? 895 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: Who's the ingredients for a great Legend Show tonight, The 896 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: Great Legends Show tonight is another Ring of Honor member 897 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson. Oh, that's a great ingredient. Dump button ready 898 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: for that one? And then next week Tony Dorset, whoa 899 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: back to back? Hey? Can I see someone with some 900 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: fire powers? When are you gonna put Brian broad As 901 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: all that show? He should never? What about this real 902 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: quick throw some match? You about their defense? Yeah, I 903 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: think about this. I was just looking through two games 904 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: of these guys. First down passing defense of a rating 905 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: of sixty nine, right, sixty nine, which it puts some 906 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: ninth in the league. Second down passing its passer rating 907 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: sixty nine a rating quarterback quarterback pack. Yeah, opponents of 908 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: passing rating on first down which puts some ninth in 909 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: the league at sixty nine point five. How about passing 910 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: defense on second down? They're twenty fourth, they're one oh 911 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 1: seven seven. Wait they're they're they're clearly a better teams 912 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: are That's just shows your teams are maybe running the 913 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: football a little bit more on them. First down, Well, 914 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: they're only averaging seventy nine per game allowed. They've done 915 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: a good jot. Now the Colts are really struggle. We 916 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: know that's bad personnel there, but you know seventy nine 917 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: in the first two games. Average of opponents rushing per 918 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: game seventy nine yards. Yeah, okay, see that. It's funny 919 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: that they're that's that big of a difference. And first 920 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: down passing and second down passing obviously their their team, 921 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, probably has to do. But if you look 922 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: at though third down conversions, they've been bad too. Defensively, 923 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: that's something we always focus on. Forty seven percent and 924 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: plays of ten or more yards they're twenty fifth with 925 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: twenty six of those allowed. Yeah, and I think that's 926 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 1: what people are frustrated with the identity of this football 927 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: team right now. Last year, they were really able to 928 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: keep the drives alive. Yeah, you know, they were able 929 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: to keep Chris Jones off and not making him do 930 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: that much work. Just kidding, he's always working hard, but 931 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, they were able to keep it going. And 932 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: this year it's like, can you just get that first stay? Well, yeah, 933 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: I keep drives alive and they'll run on first down 934 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: and run on second down and s And they weren't 935 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: able to do that. They had no balance at all. 936 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: If you go back and you look at what they 937 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: did the first two or three drives of the game. 938 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: Though their third downs were pretty manageable. I mean they 939 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: were like third and four, third and five. It wasn't 940 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: like they were way behind the chains. So I mean, 941 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: there's things you can improve on here. It's not like 942 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: it's it's higher. They've only they've only allowed and this 943 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: is something that'serting too. They've only allowed opponent's thirty five 944 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: percent of the time to have four plus yards per carry. 945 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: That goes back to what you're saying about the Colts. 946 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 1: They got the Lions got behind in that game, couldn't 947 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: really you know, couldn't have to so and they're a 948 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: passing team anyway, passing team, right, Yeah, it's that's a 949 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: little miss leading. Colts have struggled everywhere offensively. Yeah, all right, 950 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: Well let's get to Rob's poll. All right. We talked 951 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Cowboys defense at the end 952 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: of segment two, so let's go there again. Which player 953 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: will give the defense the Cowboys defense the biggest boost 954 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: when he returns. Anthony Hitchins, David Irving who's got two 955 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: more game suspension, Demontre Moore who's back this week, or 956 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: Orlando Scandrick. You just missed the TV in here was 957 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: showing Cheeto leave the field another defensive player. No, another Cheeto. 958 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: That's a hard poll. No, Ryding, I'm guessing the right chet. 959 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm guessing the people chose Scandrid. Okay, you're seeing they 960 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: chose Hitchens. I'm going Scandrid because they think this secondary 961 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: is garbage. David Irving of the vote More Sacks. Yeah, 962 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: Scandrid got thirty seven percent, followed by Hitchens and then more. 963 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 1: I was sorry, yes, all right, yesterday's poll was about 964 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: the secondary. It was yeah, and then people were alarmed 965 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: about the way they were playing. What does Mickey say? 966 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: They don't listen, they don't didn't pick scanderd. They're thinking 967 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: about those Irving. I would have Packers games and Bucks 968 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: games where he just dominated. I would have picked I 969 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: would pick I would pick Scandrick two. I was gonna 970 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: say Hitchens because they saw C. J. Anderson get the 971 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: start of his Pro Bowl season going. Hitchens would have 972 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: been my second choice. Yeah, Irving third, who was the 973 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: demtre demntre more Yeah, I'm not sure how they're going 974 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: to use him. I think they're going to play him 975 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: in the rotation. I would not right side rotation. See 976 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: if he's better than what you're getting from Benson, Mayowa 977 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: and Taco over there. Friday is going to be an 978 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: interesting day for us when it comes to who to 979 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: sit a defensive end. Saturday, Well, Saturday, excuse, but we 980 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: don't have a show. Saturday, don't have a show. But 981 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: but when we better come up with it on Friday. Yeah, 982 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You're you're inactives on Friday, or 983 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: when you get to your inactives, I wonder who they're 984 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna sit at defensive end. Think I got mine, but 985 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: I'll save it. Benson. No, I don't know. Taco Tapper, Okay, 986 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: didn't we didn't. We go into this year though, talking 987 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: about Taco and talking about the expectations with him that 988 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: that might have been the case for some games to 989 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: be inactive. I mean, yeah, I thought he played better 990 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: in this game than he did in the in the 991 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: in the Giants game. If you want to look at 992 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: some type of little silver lion. Though, I thought he 993 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: I thought his technique was better. I thought he was 994 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: better as better as a rusher. It didn't. It didn't show. 995 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: He caused on the interception he had a pressure on 996 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: that one. So yeah, I mean there's if I hear 997 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about one pressure. But it was better than 998 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: what it was for the Giants game. Gotta have one 999 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: before you get to two. Yeah, we'll see Tapper. Huh, 1000 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: who's gonna back up Lauren? No, I don't, I don't, 1001 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I would, I would put 1002 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: it down between Tapper and Taco. See that's gonna be 1003 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean kind of like our training camp debate. Right, Yeah, 1004 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 1: act you keep them all up. Do you need six 1005 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: wide receiver? You could, you technically could. Sure, I don't 1006 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: think you need six wide receivers, You're right, But if 1007 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: they're healthy, they're all healthy. Yeah, I mean you're gonna 1008 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: pa to carry more defensive back, so you don't want 1009 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: to go light there. Typically that's the rotation is eight 1010 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: deep deal we get in the inactive talks on Friday. Yeah, 1011 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: I just know we're just talking about the defensive ents. 1012 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's just kind of a confusing 1013 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: thing when you feel like your secondary you just want 1014 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: more there. Yeah, but you can only play eleven. I 1015 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: only play eleven, and it's very frustrating. Now let's get 1016 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: into it. You were talking about Dak and Zeke if 1017 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: they blocked for him and protecting Dak I think will 1018 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: be a huge thing in this game. We've talked about 1019 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: the on line a little bit, but did you guys 1020 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: know he was pressured twenty two times against the Broncos 1021 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: and no other quarterback has been pressured more in a 1022 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 1: single game to start this season. Wow, that's a stat 1023 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, with those pressures come from. I didn't 1024 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: get the exact pressures. That just told me twenty two. No, man, 1025 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: the source of the pressures? Yeah, oh Pro Football Reference. 1026 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, she's us positions? What position? No? No, 1027 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: I was asking who came up? Oh, because they don't 1028 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: really count pressures in this official stat Yeah to me though, 1029 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: you know if a lot of it probably came down 1030 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: to what was happening in the second half of that 1031 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: game where they had the throw and then it was 1032 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: about the attempts. Yeah, then it was I mean, how 1033 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 1: many second half throws did he have to make? Do? 1034 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't have my flip a lot? I mean he 1035 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: had fifty, which shuts up say he had fifty totals, 1036 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: So how many you have to throw in the second half? 1037 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the running game, of course everybody knows, was 1038 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: non existent. So how many throws do you have to 1039 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: make in the second half. That's where all of a 1040 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: sudden things started breaking down a little bit. You started 1041 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: to see Vaughan hit him. Yeah, Vall was starting before 1042 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: he got the sacks he passes the second half. See, 1043 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: that's I'm saying. When when the Collis Cowboys are winning 1044 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: football games, Dak Prescott is twenty three or twenty nine 1045 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: for two hundred and forty six yards and they've run 1046 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: the football for one hundred and twenty five hundred and 1047 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: thirty yards. I looked at you. If you take out 1048 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 1: the Philly game where he didn't play the full game 1049 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: last year, he averaged thirty exactly thirty attempts. That's what 1050 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Fifty is out of whack. And as I 1051 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday, this team does not have a history. Nobody 1052 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: has a history of winning football games. When you throw 1053 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: fifty times, something's going wrong. If you're throwing the ball 1054 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: fifty times, yeah it is. And I think the fact 1055 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: he had to throw thirty times in the second half 1056 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: with really no running game, yeah, you were going to 1057 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 1: have some problems there. And but that the pressure makes 1058 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: total sense. I mean they had some you know they 1059 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: we talked about it with Lyle Collins and you know, 1060 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean there were some there was some leakage there. 1061 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: It was fourteen of twenty in the first half, sixteen 1062 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: of thirty the second half. Yeah, but but no yards. 1063 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: What was yards pert tempt? Which first the first half 1064 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: it was only eighty five yards well passing yards per 1065 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: attempt for the entire game there. Yeah, they sometimes have 1066 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: that yards per tempt. That's on your big stat pack 1067 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: on the back Mickey, if you flip it over there, 1068 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: oh on this no no, no, no, no, no, on 1069 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: the back of the play by play. I think they 1070 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: have yards per attempt on the back of that. I 1071 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: just feel like, if you're the Cardinals break right now, 1072 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: you guys are talking about how to beat the Cowboys, 1073 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: how to get the Cardinals to win, They're probably saying, hey, 1074 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: make Dak pass. See what he's down. When he's down 1075 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: and they don't have the run game, what is he 1076 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 1: going to do? That's become the national narrative. Again, that's 1077 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: a national narrative. If you know, if you if you've 1078 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: got a guy that could shut down Dez Bryant. They do. 1079 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: They have a guy that's capable of doing that. They've 1080 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: got the speed on defense to get to a lot 1081 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: of get a lot, They've got some they've got some 1082 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: bulk up front. You know. That's they do have the 1083 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: personnel to shut you down. Now it's on Wine handing 1084 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: those guys to try and figure out ways to be 1085 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more creative. You know. But you guys 1086 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: are saying they don't have the corners, like tay to 1087 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: your point, tell me what that top to bottom that 1088 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos no, not topp to bottom at all. I mean, 1089 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: you have Patrick Peterson and we have Honey Badger in 1090 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: you that dB secondary area, but they don't have I mean, granted, 1091 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: I didn't think Chris Harris Junior was going to be 1092 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: as much as a threat as he turned out to be. 1093 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: I really didn't. I thought guy brand the robie was 1094 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: the one. I thought he was the weak link. I 1095 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: thought thought so too. But yeah, he played pretty well. 1096 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a it's a it's they do have 1097 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 1: the personnel or point eight four point eight of the 1098 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: ten tasks see are the entire games? Yeah, see that's 1099 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: that's terrible. But it was only six something against the Giants. Yeah, 1100 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: so they weren't defending, weren't getting the ball down the field. Yeah. Oh, 1101 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 1: that's a lot about winning on the outside too, you know, 1102 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 1: just got to do a better job of It's easier 1103 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: said than done, but you've got to find ways to 1104 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: win on the outside. And when you do win, make 1105 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: sure you make the catch. You know, we see that 1106 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: happened too. Yes, well, let's go to the phone lines. 1107 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: You guys can still call us the last few minutes 1108 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: here two one, four eight, two twenty one or two. 1109 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: Lance from New Jersey on the line, What is up? 1110 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: How's it going? Guys? First time I've been listening to 1111 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: guys for a long time out here in Jersey. I'm 1112 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: going to actually be at the Cowboys Rams game in 1113 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, so hopefully I can say hi 1114 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: to you guys, coming out with a couple of big 1115 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: time Cowboys fans. My question is to combat that rush 1116 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: that we've seen the last couple of weeks and we 1117 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: might see this week. I know we used to do 1118 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: it a lot with Tony. What is like the shotgun 1119 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: draw play or more draw plays to get those d 1120 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: ns coming up the field? Be something that might see 1121 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys use a little bit more in the coming weeks. 1122 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you get that run game going and I'll hang 1123 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: up and thanks for taking my call. Guys appreciate well screens. 1124 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: The key thing is don't get behind by twenty five 1125 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: points now, because then you can't do that stuff. Yeah, 1126 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't care. You can do all the draws you want. Yeah. 1127 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: I think the way they get around pressure now is 1128 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: but the screen package they didn't get. They didn't get 1129 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: to get into that. They try. Yeah, they didn't get 1130 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: to get into that as much as they'd probably like to, though, 1131 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: But I think you need some more, some timely screen passes. 1132 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: That's just their way. We've seen it with the wider suit. Heck, 1133 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: they converted a third down the other day throwing a 1134 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: screen to Terence Williams for a first down off a 1135 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: slot blitz. So those are the kinds of things the 1136 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: way they're going to get around this. But the draw stuff, yeah, 1137 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: it's it's good to a point, But you know, this 1138 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: team hangs its hat on the way they run the ball. 1139 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, the way they they press the edges and 1140 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: try and make the cuts. What do you want to 1141 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: call it? Zone scheme whatever you want it, man, scheme, 1142 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. That's the way they 1143 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: run the football. And they have to get back to 1144 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: being more physical and and getting guys blocked. They can't 1145 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: just let guys run free. Absolutely, you know. And it 1146 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: was thirty five ten in the third quarter. Sure, the 1147 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: third quarter, Yeah, the third quarter. They actually shut them 1148 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: out in the fourth quarter for that, hey silver lining man, 1149 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: but the defense did because the offense gave him a pixix. Yeah. 1150 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: Oh well, we'll end on a happy note because we 1151 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: have another Talking Cowboys for you guys tomorrow, even thirty 1152 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,959 Speaker 1: am Central time. You know where to find us, watch 1153 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: and tune in. You guys can even watch on connected 1154 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: TV devices. We'll be back tomorrow. 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