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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Persobic.

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Speaker 1: Christ Is King, Ladies, and John Welcome aboard today's zation

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Speaker 1: of Human Events Daily Here live in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 4: We're in the Charlie Kirk studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Blake Nev who's been on the show

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Speaker 1: quite a few many times. But for the first time,

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Speaker 1: we've got Now, normally I would say producer Andrew, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's Andrew Colvet.

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I've graduated. I got a last name.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: We've done so many shows together and like we talk

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Speaker 1: every day, but you've never actually been on my show before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a weird, true truth.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how we've gotten this far, but I

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Speaker 6: think it was just because I was because you behind

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Speaker 6: the scenes, like well a.

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Speaker 1: Guest guy before, you know, you would do thought crime

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Speaker 1: the extreme sometimes or if like if Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Was out you would guest hostess, you would do that.

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Speaker 4: Let me interview you for a second.

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Speaker 1: What's it like going from the behind the scenes guy

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Speaker 6: You know, I think if it was just out of nowhere,

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Speaker 6: it would be really disorienting.

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Speaker 5: But I was with Charlie.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was kind of out of nowhere.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was out of It was out of nowhere.

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Speaker 6: Certainly, everything that's the last two weeks are completely out

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Speaker 5: But I would say that, I.

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Speaker 4: Just mean in the sense that it wasn't by choice.

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Speaker 6: No, of course, I was thrust into a position. Erica

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Speaker 6: looked at me and she said, you're our spokesman, which

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Speaker 6: I was the spokesman atturning point.

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Speaker 5: In Charlie's life.

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Speaker 6: But I would mostly handle you know, like article. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: like I would fight, fight on behalf of the organization

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Speaker 6: when we were getting smeared or lied or slandered. Body

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Speaker 6: was the guy doing the yeah, And so Charlie was

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Speaker 6: do the Fox News interviews and things like that. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean that it has evolved, and you know, Erica

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Speaker 6: was like, okay, yes, ma'am, here we go.

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Speaker 5: I mean so all that to say, I I was

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Speaker 6: In the sense not that I was doing it, but

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Speaker 6: I've been with Charlie doing it for so long and

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Speaker 6: I've I've seen I know the world pretty inside and

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's different being the person that's on

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Speaker 4: But a little bit more incoming this way.

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Speaker 5: Is yeah, a thousand percent.

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Speaker 6: Or you know, somebody's make some comment about you and

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Speaker 6: you're like, I have no idea where they got that,

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Speaker 6: so it's it's been mostly wonderful. I've gotten more love

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Speaker 6: I know it won't always be like that, but I

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Speaker 5: I was prepared just by osmosis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I guess the different part is that.

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Speaker 1: Before the arrows were directed at Charlie and you were

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and maybe I'm like, yeah, I was gonna say

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Speaker 5: Then it's yeah, It's it's totally it's totally different.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I would just like to remind everybody,

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Speaker 6: It was, you know, we filmed it a week ago,

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Speaker 6: And as soon as I let go, I felt peace.

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Speaker 6: And so I'm operating out of a place of God

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Speaker 6: has this for me? And I just I'm saying yes, Well, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean I'm sitting here and never coming up on the break.

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Speaker 1: But you know you've been doing a great job man,

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Speaker 1: thanks and watching it and seeing it and you know,

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Speaker 7: I tell you, as I tell you on a regular basis, Jackson,

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Speaker 4: And I'll be like like Andrew, no, not like this,

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Speaker 5: I think one of my first interviews and that.

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Speaker 5: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you've been fantastic too though, Jack and a real

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Speaker 6: source of strength for the team. And you've you've uprooted

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Speaker 4: It's just what you gotta do, all right. Uh. I think,

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Speaker 4: Well you didn't get to Blake very much.

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Speaker 1: But Blake's here too, and we love him and and

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Speaker 1: he's great and the beard looks really good.

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Speaker 4: Blake, just just love it on everybody for a minute here.

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Speaker 4: Let's just do love.

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Speaker 1: But yeah it might as well and also we need

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Speaker 1: to crush the violent left, and and well, that of.

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Speaker 4: Course is the uh is the topic here for today.

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Speaker 4: But I know you guys got a run. Thank you

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Speaker 4: for being here. And thought crime later tonight.

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Speaker 5: Pot crime tonight, tune in. It's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 4: Blake's already pulling up data.

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Speaker 1: I see here, very very thought crime statistics.

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Speaker 7: Let's go, let's go, Oh my gosh, and in.

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Speaker 8: Our way and our golden age has just begun.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with Jacksovic.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First

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Speaker 1: truly means. Welcome to the Second American Revolution. All right,

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Speaker 1: Jack Pisobic, we are back live here Human Events Daily

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Speaker 1: with an incredible event last night for Turning Point USA,

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Speaker 1: which is held at Virginia Tech. I believe we have

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Speaker 3: Oh, why you support a president whose contributes to the

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Speaker 3: rhetoric that got your friend Charlie killed. That's a blatant lie.

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Speaker 3: It's a defamatory blaspheam, and it's inappropriate in the setting.

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Speaker 9: That's not what I said.

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Speaker 3: We know, yes it is. So I said he contributed

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Speaker 3: then you have no puestion. Then your point is utterly empty.

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Speaker 3: It's contributing to the atmosphere the present guy was. Let's

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Speaker 3: just make clear. Let's just make clear, this guy was

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Speaker 5: Even if that's true.

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Speaker 3: True, does that make it okay for the sitting president

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Speaker 3: And then President Trump got up and making a joke

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Speaker 3: that's completely normal for a politician to be thinking about

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Speaker 1: Well, that was an incredible moment. And while we do have,

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Speaker 3: How are you hi, Jack, I'm great. How are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm very well. I actually listened to I think almost

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Speaker 4: There's some really interesting questions you got. We don't have

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Speaker 3: MSNBC and CNN and Jimmy Kimmel for his news and

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Speaker 3: before Charlie died. And then they paid an additional fifty

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Speaker 3: dollars to amp up the hex and make it especially

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Speaker 3: bad for him. And then they went back a third

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Speaker 3: time and found a different so called witch, some quote priestess,

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Speaker 3: to cast an extra special curse on Charlie, and they

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Speaker 3: had proof of this woman burning his picture and watching

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Speaker 3: the edges crumble around his face as she cursed him.

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Speaker 3: So now they had three and they waited, and they

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Speaker 3: expressed consternation that a day had passed and nothing happened.

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Speaker 3: And then they found out from the alleged witches that

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Speaker 3: it would take between two and three weeks, and literally

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Speaker 3: eighteen days later Charlie was assassinated. But the day before

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Speaker 3: he was assassinated, Erica and Charlie saw the story because

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Speaker 3: Jezebel wrote it up the Monday before Charlie was killed,

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Speaker 3: which was a Wednesday, so that Monday they saw it,

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Speaker 3: and she in particular was so disturbed by it, and

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Speaker 3: as any deep faith Christian might be, she was very

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Speaker 3: unhappy this had been done. And they asked a friend

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Speaker 3: of theirs, and I think Erica told me that it

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Speaker 3: was a Catholic priest, but I can't totally remember, but

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Speaker 3: it was a Catholic who just a friend of theirs,

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Speaker 3: and they asked him for a blessing over Charlie the

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Speaker 3: night before he was killed, and they received the blessing

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Speaker 3: and she felt better. But I just could not believe

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Speaker 3: how vile this was. And when I talked to Erica.

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Speaker 3: It was when I was out in Arizona. So this

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Speaker 3: is a week plus after he was killed, and it

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Speaker 3: was still bothering her, you know, to the point where

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Speaker 3: she mentioned it to me. But she had come to

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Speaker 3: a different place on it, Jack and she was annoyed,

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Speaker 3: of course, but she came to realize upon reflection, and

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Speaker 3: she's she had gotten there even before Charlie left, that

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Speaker 3: these power, these people had no power over Charlie, that

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Speaker 3: these demons, that Satan was not in control, that God

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Speaker 3: was in control, including on the day Charlie was killed.

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Speaker 3: But my own takeaway, as a friend of hers and

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Speaker 3: as a Christian, was this was evil what they did.

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Speaker 3: This was an evil act. And I also happened to

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Speaker 3: feel that there is a possibility they opened a very

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Speaker 3: dark door. I don't know how things work. I'm Catholic

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Speaker 3: and Catholic priests, and I played the SoundBite on my show,

476
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Speaker 3: have come on like Father Mike Schmidz, who I love,

477
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Speaker 3: who does the Bible in a year, and he specifically

478
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Speaker 3: told me two years ago, don't have a Wiji board

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Speaker 3: in your home and talked about how they believe that

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Speaker 3: there have been actual exorcisms. They've had to do that.

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Speaker 3: The movie The Exorcist is based on a real two

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Speaker 3: cases where a Wiji board opened some sort of portal

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Speaker 3: or door into someone's house where they believe their child

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Speaker 3: got possessed by a demon. He also said, don't do

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Speaker 3: magic like you're calling up things you might not want

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Speaker 3: to call up in your home or in this world.

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Speaker 3: So who are we to say, as mere mortals that

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Speaker 3: doing that kind of ritual is utterly powerless? Is the

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Speaker 3: joke that Jezebel seemed to think it was. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that. I have no idea what doing that is

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Speaker 3: capable of. I would certainly never ever do that to

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Speaker 3: my worst enemy. And so that's the reason I talked

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Speaker 3: about it, and because whether it's got any power or not,

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Speaker 3: it upset Erica kirk Well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's amazing that you talked about it. I,

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Speaker 1: as everyone knows, I always have my rosary right here,

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Speaker 1: very handy. I've got crucifixes up in my bedroom and

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Speaker 1: the bedrooms of my children, the same way that my

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Speaker 1: parents had for me. We have holy water in the house,

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Speaker 1: and I will add this. The only thing I'll add

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Speaker 1: is this is that you can invite the demonic onto yourself.

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Speaker 1: And we certainly saw the Annunciation Church shooter up there

503
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Speaker 1: and clearly wrestling with a demon. But those witches and

504
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Speaker 1: that hex and the spell and all of the demons

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Speaker 1: combined could not do what they could not corrupt Charlie's

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Speaker 1: immortal soul. So yes, they could have an agent of

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Speaker 1: evil fire a bullet at Charlie. But the demonic is

508
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Speaker 1: about dragging you down and damning you to Hell and

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Speaker 1: pulling you away from God, because that is what hell is,

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Speaker 1: the total disc action with God. But that wasn't Charlie.

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Speaker 1: So no matter what they did to him, they were

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Speaker 1: never able to sever that. And I know that that

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Speaker 1: spell that hecks could never break Charlie's.

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Speaker 4: Bond with Christ.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's been so obvious in the reaction

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Speaker 3: to his death and that people flocking to Christ by

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Speaker 3: the millions.

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Speaker 4: No, it totally failed, Megan. I know you've got to run.

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Speaker 4: We're up on a hard break.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on, and thank you

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Speaker 1: seriously for just telling the truth about what was going

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Speaker 1: on there.

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Speaker 3: Anytime.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you, Jack, God bless all right, folks,

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Speaker 1: will be right back.

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Speaker 4: Jack Psoba Human Events Daily Real Record Voice.

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Speaker 3: Where's Jack Where's Jack?

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Speaker 4: Where is it?

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Speaker 3: Jack? I want to see you.

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Speaker 8: Great job, Jack, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, what a job you do.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking

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Speaker 4: about the fake news.

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Speaker 8: And demand, but we have guys, and these are the

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Speaker 8: guys should be getting policies.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pacobic, we are back live Human Events daily,

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Speaker 4: Our water for eighty years.

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Speaker 1: Well, the government claims that fluoride is for healthy teeth,

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Speaker 1: but that's just nanny state nonsense. You don't need bureaucrats

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Speaker 1: Now we have a former you know, uh well, I say,

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Speaker 1: a longtime guest, but he's been a little bit, a

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Speaker 1: little bit absent from the talking circuit lately. He picked

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Speaker 1: up some side job. I'm not sure we got doctor

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Speaker 1: Peter Navarro straight from the White House here to join

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Speaker 1: us on the program, Doctor Navara, how are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great, Jack, And I'm sitting here in the

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Speaker 9: new R A V Studio by the way here in

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Speaker 9: d C. And I must say, uh, Rob and Parker

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Speaker 9: Siga outdid Themselve. And so when you when you're back

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Speaker 9: in d C. And uh, I know there's a share

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Speaker 9: wait before you here, brother, but I'm glad where you are.

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Speaker 4: I guess you know, I got to use it. I

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Speaker 4: got to use it.

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Speaker 1: I got to use it once already and it's it's

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Speaker 1: really really nice.

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Speaker 9: I got to look. I gotta say this to your audience.

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00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 9: I mean, no one moved me more speaking in Arizona

589
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 9: than than you. Jack. That was poetry, my friend. And

590
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Speaker 9: for me, they talk about the five stages of grief,

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Speaker 9: there's a sixth one and and that for me is accountability.

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Speaker 9: And this is this, this, this principle we have to

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Speaker 9: start following a lot better. Jack, is if they can

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Speaker 9: come for us, they can come for you. We have

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Speaker 9: to hold them accountable otherwise they'll do it again. We've

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Speaker 9: we've got to we've got to walk that talk. And

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Speaker 9: that means basically, going after all of the people in

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Speaker 9: old Testament fashion who've been responsible over the last eight

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Speaker 9: years for putting me and Steve Bannon in prison, for

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Speaker 9: bankrupt and Rudy Giuliani trying to bankrupt Mike Lindell, for

601
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Speaker 9: taking away the bar cards of Jeff Clark and John Eastman,

602
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 9: for putting millions of dollars of legal fees on people

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Speaker 9: who would escape imprisonmen the prosecution, but still had to

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Speaker 9: pay through the nose. Four times they tried to put

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump in prison in four different courts, two assassination attempts,

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Speaker 9: and of course the brutal assassination of our beloved Charlie Kirk.

607
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Speaker 9: And you know, this is what we've got to do.

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Speaker 9: And so you know, I'm actively trying to get that

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Speaker 9: message out. As you know, I've got this new book

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Speaker 9: that came out I went to prison, so you won't

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Speaker 9: have to. It's a tagline from the speech I gave

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Speaker 9: at the Republican National Convention, and for your viewers and listeners,

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Speaker 9: that was the same day I walked out of a

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Speaker 9: federal prison after four months. I spent four months there

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Speaker 9: for a misdemeanor with two hundred felons and everybody who

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Speaker 9: put me in prison was a Democrat, whether it was

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Speaker 9: a Democrat majority in the House a representatives voted to

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Speaker 9: hold me in contempt. Whether it was meryor Garland, the

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Speaker 9: Attorney General and his prosecutors who ordered my leg irons arrest,

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Speaker 9: whether it was Judge Ahmit Meta who bundled campaign contributions

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Speaker 9: for Barack Obama and then got appointed as a judge.

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Speaker 9: No connection there in the media, Jack, I mean this

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Speaker 9: inciting the violence which we continually get even now. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's like we're getting accused, Jack, of weaponizing the Justice

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Speaker 9: Department because we're going after James friggin Komy. James friggin Komy. Like,

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Speaker 9: here's what's interesting. I write about this guy and I

627
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Speaker 9: went to prison so you won't have to. FBI agent

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Speaker 9: Jack named Walter jior Dina. Okay, he's the guy who,

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Speaker 9: at the direction likely of Merrick Garland, went out to

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Speaker 9: Reagan Airport with four other armed FBI agents, took me

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Speaker 9: down in a gang way, put me in handcuffs, put

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Speaker 9: me in leg irons. Okay, what's that got to do

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Speaker 9: with James Comy gior Dina. This FBI agent was the

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Speaker 9: guy one of the guys. According to whistleblowers who read

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Speaker 9: the Steele dossier, Jack, you and I know what that is.

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Speaker 9: That's the Clinton funded piece of crap that said falsely

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Speaker 9: that Donald Trump was in bed with the Russians. It

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Speaker 9: was this guy, Jeered Dina who said, no, it's legit,

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Speaker 9: go ahead and start crossfire, Hurricane, go ahead after Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: Komy was there to approve it all. And he's the guy,

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Speaker 9: James Komy who started signing those FISA warrants, those fake

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Speaker 9: PIZE warrants which Carter Page on down Right Comy was

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Speaker 9: the guy who went after Mike Flynn and took him out.

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Speaker 9: So we need justice because and this is this is

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Speaker 9: the sixth stage of grief. If we don't hold them accountable, Jack,

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Speaker 9: they're gonna do it again. You know this, Jack, if

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Speaker 9: we lose the House will do it again.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, and Jack, we saw it yesterday, and doctor

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Speaker 1: Varr we saw it yesterday. Another violent leftist just shot

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Speaker 1: up an ice facility only a few days after Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk was shot and killed up in up In, Utah.

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Speaker 1: There's been no raids on these leftist organizations. There's been

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Speaker 1: there's been no nighttime enforcement. We've seen the ice rates,

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Speaker 1: which has been fantastic, but the violent left, there's been nothing.

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Speaker 1: We're starting to see hopefully, you know, and we might

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Speaker 1: see this indictment of Comy.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually looking.

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Speaker 1: At you know, looking at some updates on that on

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Speaker 1: some other news that are right there. But I think

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Speaker 1: I think with a lot of people, and I'm not,

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Speaker 1: you know, directing this cu but I think I get

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Speaker 1: this sense of a lot of people in the audience

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Speaker 1: right now they're saying all of the pressure is being

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Speaker 1: directed on one place, and we're not fighting back the

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Speaker 1: way we should yet.

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Speaker 9: And that's exactly right. I mean, Look, I've been talking

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Speaker 9: about this along with you and Bannon and others since

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty, I mean since twenty eighteen, when they started

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Speaker 9: going after Trump in twenty sixteen. It's like, for me,

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Speaker 9: it's the Mantra, It's Comy Clapper Page, Brandon, struck Shift.

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00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 9: All of these people got away with election interference and insurrection.

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Speaker 9: I mean, and this guy Giordina, who put me in

673
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Speaker 9: leg irons, was there at every turn according to whistleblowers. Jack,

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Speaker 9: if you just understand this one guy, you understand the

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Speaker 9: whole conspiracy against Donald Trump. Steele Dossier, Crossfire, Hurricane Muller Report,

676
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 9: Operation Crimson River. I don't know if you remember that one, Jack.

677
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 9: That was like the accusation which was ridiculous that the

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Speaker 9: Egyptian government gave Trump ten million dollars for his campaign.

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00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 9: It was totally bogus. But Giordina and the FBI and

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00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 9: Comy and all of those people used it to issue

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Speaker 9: a bunch of subpoenas for records and this, that and

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Speaker 9: the other thing. And then Ardaic Frost Ardic Frost Geredina

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Speaker 9: was part of that as well. And by the way,

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Speaker 9: you can't make this up. You know who this guy's

685
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Speaker 9: father in law is. Jack. This guy his father in

686
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 9: law is a guy named Larry Potts, who was he

687
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 9: He was the deputy director who was behind WACO and

688
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Speaker 9: Ruby Ridge. Okay, how's that for a bloodline. These people

689
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Speaker 9: are corrupt, Jack, and we need to do what they

690
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 9: did to us through the legal system because they're guilty

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 9: and we weren't.

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Speaker 1: And if we don't, if we don't apply this pressure,

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Speaker 1: if we don't use the iron.

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Speaker 4: Law of exact reciprocity. It's about reciprocity. If we don't

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00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: do that, they're gonna do it again. Yes, they're going

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Speaker 4: to do.

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00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: This again and again because they will do so with impunity,

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00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: because they've never received a response, they've never received any

699
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: opposite reactions. Like Newtonian physics, if there is no equal

700
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: in opposite reaction, then the first instance, the first action

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Speaker 1: will continue.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Navarr, we're coming up pointing quick.

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Speaker 9: Jack is a great guy.

704
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 8: He's written that fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 7: Go get it, and he's been my friend life from the.

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Speaker 8: Beginning of this whole beautiful event.

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Speaker 9: Pat We're going to turn her around and make our.

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Speaker 7: Country way to get him.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're back Live Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 4: We're on with doctor Peter Navarro, who's.

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Speaker 1: Written this incredible new book about his experiences. Because doctor Navarro,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we sit here and we do these shows,

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Speaker 1: I'm not in elected office, and we sit here and

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Speaker 1: we say we need to do something because they keep

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Speaker 1: putting us in jail, they keep censoring us they can,

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Speaker 1: and then, by the way, when they can't put us

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Speaker 1: in jail, and when they can't censor us, what do

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Speaker 1: they do next?

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Speaker 4: What's the next step on the tier of escalation?

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Speaker 1: They turn to gunshots and that's what took Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: away from us. Walk us through what the left in

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Speaker 1: this country did to you, and not a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: just last year.

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Speaker 9: Well, let's start with the first first chapter if I

725
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 9: went to prison, so you won't have to. It starts

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Speaker 9: it at Reagan National Airport. It's the DC Airport. I'm

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Speaker 9: on my way with my fiance Bonnie to do Mike

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Speaker 9: Huckabee Show. Right, I love Mike. First time Bonnie was

729
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Speaker 9: gonna be in Nashville. It's gonna be a great time.

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Speaker 9: We had the time of our life. Next thing we know,

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Speaker 9: we're walking down the Gangway. We got three armed FBI

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Speaker 9: agents come behind us, two in front of us, including

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Speaker 9: this guy, Walter Giadina. I'm in handcuffs. Later in leg irons.

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Speaker 9: Bonnie's purp walked out in front of the world. CNN's

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Speaker 9: got the story before everything. Now, what's wrong with that picture? Well,

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Speaker 9: first of all, misdemeanor. Second of all, not a violent guy.

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Speaker 9: Bonnie's not a vie mcgal. Third of all, I literally

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Speaker 9: lived right across the street from the FBI, like fifty

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Speaker 9: yards away. They could have easily called me. But what

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Speaker 9: they try to do to us, Jack is humiliate us

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Speaker 9: to the world. And when they when they went in

742
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Speaker 9: and got stuff from Jeff Clark, they scared the hell

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Speaker 9: out of his kids. In my case, it was a

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Speaker 9: woman I love. It's like, what's wrong with that? And

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Speaker 9: so I go again. I went to prison so you

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Speaker 9: won't have to. Is this story of how how you

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Speaker 9: go through this justice system? Jacket's like I was like astonished.

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Speaker 9: It's like, by the time my case got the jury,

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Speaker 9: the judge, the Obama appointed judge, had stripped me of

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Speaker 9: any defense. My defense was executive privilege, according to fifty

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Speaker 9: years of Department of Justice policy across party lines. It's

752
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Speaker 9: like if I got a subpoena from Congress, it was

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Speaker 9: my duty as a senior presidential adviser to refuse it.

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Speaker 9: It was my duty. And suddenly I'm in court and

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Speaker 9: I can't even argue that if I said the word

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Speaker 9: executive privilege, the judge was going to put me in

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Speaker 9: jail for contempt of his court. So it was like, okay,

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Speaker 9: what's that all about? And then the worst thing that

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Speaker 9: happened happened in terms of like I mean, the book

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Speaker 9: is like, it's it's kafka, It's Stephen King but it's

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Speaker 9: also a lot of catch twenty two Joseph Heller. Like,

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Speaker 9: for my case, when I got convicted, sentenced to jail,

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Speaker 9: what they should have done is release me pending appeal.

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Speaker 9: That's the legal term, release pending appeal because not a

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Speaker 9: flight risk. And it's a major constitutional landmark case. It's

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Speaker 9: still on appeal, it's going to the Supreme Court. It

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Speaker 9: will be reversed. There is any justice in the world.

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Speaker 9: But they put me in prison. And it was three Jack,

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Speaker 9: it was three judges on this appeals panel in DC,

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Speaker 9: which is a cesspool. Two of them are named Patricia Mallett,

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Speaker 9: community of Pilart. Right. They said, flat out no, he's

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Speaker 9: got to go to jail. There's no appealable issues here

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Speaker 9: that could change the outcome. Okay, fair enough, Now fast forward.

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Speaker 9: My appeal is ongoing as we speak in that court.

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Speaker 9: Guess who the same judges are who's going to hear

776
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Speaker 9: that appeal. It's like Pollard and Malet, they've already made

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Speaker 9: up their mind, but now they're going to do it again.

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Speaker 9: It's like, if you think the judges are drawn randomly

779
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 9: in courts are fair and this is so destructive Jack

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00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 9: to our society, because it's like the Congress used to

781
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 9: have the lowest approval rating in the American public, but

782
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 9: now it's our justice system as well. These are politicians

783
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Speaker 9: in black rope. So I get to jail like, Okay,

784
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 9: how's this going to go? And you know, I'm finding

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Speaker 9: people like like, there's a couple of guys in there

786
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Speaker 9: who are in there for many years who had their

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Speaker 9: houses taken from them, who will have to pay restitution

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Speaker 9: and their family is suffering and their lives are essentially over.

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Speaker 9: You know what. Guess what they did effectively the same

790
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Speaker 9: thing that Lisa Cook, the FED chair, is alleged to do.

791
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 9: But with Lisa Cook it's like you know, the left

792
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 9: legacy media and all that comes to her defense. Oh

793
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 9: well she needs a fair trial, this and the other

794
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 9: thing she had. No the boss can fire her, he

795
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 9: can do that, but this is like she's going to

796
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Speaker 9: skate and real people without power go to jail. Another one, Jack,

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00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 9: I don't know that the Rico Act right. This is

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00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 9: how the Rico Act was designed to get a small

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Speaker 9: class of like organized crime, and the Justice Department is

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Speaker 9: run rampant with it to get all sorts of people.

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00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 9: So there was a number of CEOs in prison. I

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00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 9: was with who they were convicted because according to the

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Speaker 9: Rico Act, they didn't have to know or be part

804
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Speaker 9: of it. Because they were CEO, they should have known.

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00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 9: Now why am I mentioning this because look, James Comey,

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Speaker 9: who was effectively the CEO of the FBI, he knew

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Speaker 9: what he was doing with the Steele dossier and the

808
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Speaker 9: FIS Act and Flynn. But even if he claims he

809
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 9: didn't under the Rico Act, he should be. He should

810
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Speaker 9: be prosecuted anyway. So we got a system here that's

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Speaker 9: just just weird. I mean, in the book itself, look,

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Speaker 9: there's there's some instances about how I saved save one

813
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Speaker 9: guy's life in there. There's broke up, fights, did negotiations.

814
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Speaker 9: But the big thing is Jack I went in there

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Speaker 9: and the First Step Act is a signature piece of

816
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Speaker 9: prison reform legislation that Donald Trump passed in twenty eighteen,

817
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Speaker 9: and I found out firsthand that that wasn't being implemented. Now,

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Speaker 9: I'm the first one to be tough on crime, but

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Speaker 9: if you keep nonviolent the first time offenders in prison

820
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Speaker 9: longer than their expiration date according to the law, bad

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Speaker 9: things happen like you get a higher rate of recidivism.

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Speaker 9: And it was about about five billion dollars to keep

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Speaker 9: people behind bars longer than they should so I had

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Speaker 9: got you know, there's a whole side plot there, and

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Speaker 9: of course the story between Bonnie and I. How families

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Speaker 9: handle this stuff. I mean it was and go ahead,

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Speaker 9: and no.

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Speaker 4: As you gonna say that, think about this. They took you,

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Speaker 4: who committed no crime.

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Speaker 1: You exerted your privilege as a White House official to

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Speaker 1: not discuss these conversations with the President to the jan

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Speaker 1: six Committee, and they threw.

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Speaker 4: You in jail.

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Speaker 1: That puts a toll on you. It puts a toll

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Speaker 1: on your family, on your loved ones. They stripped you

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Speaker 1: of your right to life, that's what that is, as

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Speaker 1: well as your your right to freedom, to right to movement,

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Speaker 1: your right.

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Speaker 4: To speak publicly.

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Speaker 1: Of course, in all of this, not only the toll

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Speaker 1: that it took on you financially, just in terms of

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Speaker 1: legal fees and all the rest, and the toll that

843
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: it takes again on your loved ones having to go

844
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Speaker 1: through all that.

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Speaker 4: And that was just four months.

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Speaker 1: What they've done to Erica now in this case, that's

847
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Speaker 1: the rest of her life. The rest of her life

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Speaker 1: and that's their life completely completely gone, completely robbed for them.

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Speaker 1: So where do we go to get repayment for that debt?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But I look at these DC Republicans

851
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Speaker 1: many of the time, and they don't seem interested in

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Speaker 1: doing anything.

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Speaker 4: Do they.

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Speaker 9: Jim Jordan is the biggest disappointment in my life in

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Speaker 9: the Hill. I mean, if you can trust him on

856
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 9: the house side, on the shary with what Chuck Grassley

857
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Speaker 9: is doing. And Chuck Grassley is is kicking ass and

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00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 9: taking no prisoners right now, getting all this information from whistleblowers,

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Speaker 9: getting it right out to the general public, putting the

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Speaker 9: heat on things that are coming down in terms of

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Speaker 9: whatever action the DJ will finally take, and things like that.

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Speaker 9: There's going to be a lot of the results of

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Speaker 9: Chuck Grassley. Jim Jeordan sits on his ass and he's

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Speaker 9: done it for years. I love the guy. I've been

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Speaker 9: on Air Force a couple of times.

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Speaker 4: There's got to be said, he's not.

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Speaker 9: Doing his job.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Navarro, are we are just about out of time here?

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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for joining us on

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily. You know how you know how Rob

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Speaker 1: said guts on me about the heart outs man.

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Speaker 4: But thanks for being here, brother.

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Speaker 9: All right man, and again great great remarks at.

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Speaker 4: The memorial Sir, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that a lot, Ladies and gentlemen. As always

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Speaker 1: you have my permission to lay short