1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Renee Substams Podcast. I'm joined 2 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: by Kaitlin. Caitlin, you're in Miami, aren't you just about 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: to be? 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Whatever? 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: Fun should have known by the cloud the window situation 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: you have going on behind you. But having said that, 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: it's been pretty crappy in Miami, can we just start 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: on before we get to Miami? 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about any and Well's. 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: I just want to rush over it real quick for 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: our listeners, because everybody, we know that people like to 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: hear our thoughts on what happened over there. What an 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: amazing couple of finals. I mean, really, thank god somebody 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: invented the tie break. That's all I'm going to say, 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: because we had three of them in the finals, two 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: and the men's and of course the last set for 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: the women's was unbelievable. What are your thoughts about the 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: back to back final there? 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: I loved it. I thought it made for one viewing experience. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I thought the crowd got what they wanted, which was 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: not only two great finals, but two great matches in 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: a row. And I think that that is kind of 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: my big takeaway from Indian Wells, which is what do 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: the crowds want, let's give it to them. Let's make 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: sure tennis is played in front of people who were 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: enthusiastically filling seats. So for me, I really loved it. 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was great. 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: What about you, Yeah, I mean I feel badly for 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: I feel badly for the second match in a lot 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: of ways though, because half of the stadium was empty 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: for a good chunk of the first set. That's the 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: one thing that I struggle with there, you know what 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: I mean. And I think either way, whether it was 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: the men or the women, I think it's unfair to 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: whoever comes second for that first bit. You know, you 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: should be walking onto the court and with a full stadium, 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: excited to see a final. And I don't like that 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: half of the stadium is getting a drink and after 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: sitting in the sun for two and a half hours, 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: admittedly probably stay out of the sun for a little while. 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: And I just think that's kind of really tough for 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: the second final, which happened to be the men's in 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: this occasion. So I felt it just doesn't look good 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: on TV as well. 45 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Agreed, And I wonder if it might be time to 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: broach a very uncomfortable subject here, which has nothing to 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: do with the tennis playing, but has everything to do 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: with tennis viewing, which is, do you think it's finally 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: time for us to just let people come and go 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: as it please? 51 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Are you saying into the stadium? 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I thought that's what we 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: were doing. I mean, what didn't we didn't we figure 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: that out from the straight and open that it works. 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: So are we not doing that? I felt we were 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 3: doing that. I thought that was happening Induea. 57 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Certainly was not happening in Indian Wells. For the matches 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: that I watch, I got screamed at a couple of 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: times by the I don't want to pick on or 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: anybody or b agist, but typically the volunteers in Indian Wells, 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: because of the endemic population who tends to live in 62 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: Indian Wells year round is the over seventy set. You know, 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: they get a lot of volunteers who are you know, 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: along in the tooth and they do not like it. 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Even if you're moving and grooving and getting to your 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: seat quickly. They do not like it if you are 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: anything other than still by the time they decide to 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: close that gate. And I got in trouble a couple 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: of times, just trying to find people, connect with people, 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: sit next to people who are you know, in random places, 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: and it's hard to get in and out, and you 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: find yourself on the outside of a of a stadium 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: waiting in line, and it can be you know, ten, fifteen, 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: twenty minutes before the changeover happens, and even then you 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: can't get guaranteed access to the seats. So I do 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: think part of that is Tennis has got to get 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: over it and just accept that people are going to 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: be moving around. I think it's happening at the US Open, 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: and it happens in Australia, but it's not happening at 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: all the tournaments because it was not happening in. 81 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: The Okay, Well, you you're telling me something I didn't know, 82 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: because I did not go to the Tennis and India 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: whiles I was watching all of mine in the comfort 84 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: of my air conditioning or frankly in the. 85 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Cold of New York. 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: But having said that, yeah, that's surprising to me because 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: I thought we'd kind of moved on and gotten to 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: the point where actually people were allowed to go in 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: and out of the stadium, especially a stadium of that enormity, 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: and so I would, as we like to do here 91 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: on our podcast, we like to tell the higher ups 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: what to do with their tournaments. 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: And that is a disaster. 94 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: And I will say, having played that tournament many, many, 95 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: many times, having coached that tournament many times, having gone 96 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: and just viewed matches with friends many times, the volunteers, 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: we really appreciate you. 98 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: But they are the toughest. 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: And most stringent of volunteers. And I have on many 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 3: occasions k and have gone and mentioned that a couple 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: of times to the higher of the tournament to say, 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: if there's an entire part of the stadium that is 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: free and no one's at a match, and I have 104 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: a player's badge on or a coach's badge on, and 105 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: I would like to sit a little bit closer to 106 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: the court where nobody's sitting, and you don't allow us 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: to sit there, that's a little bit of an issue. 108 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: And so I would say that It's one of the 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: reasons why I actually loved the Olympics in Beijing, believe 110 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: it or not, was that they did for the first time, 111 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: they allowed athletes to go and watch any event they wanted, 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: and there was an athlete section to go and watch 113 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: every other Olympics. Pid of that you actually, even as 114 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: an athlete, had to get tickets to events, which, as 115 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: you can imagine, was a nightmare. And so any event, 116 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: any tennis event, should allow players to go and watch 117 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: a match if they want. And so if they're going 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: out in the sun in Indian Welles and going to 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: watch a friend play, let them sit wherever they want. Now, 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: if someone comes along to sit in that seat that 121 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: has the tickets, of course, the first thing a player 122 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: is going to do is get up and allow the 123 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: person that has paid a lot of money to sit 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: in those. 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Seats to sit there. 126 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: So we're going to throw it out to Indian Wells. 127 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: Fantastic finals. Well done to Younickinner. What a I think 128 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of a momentum changer for him, because 129 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: I suspect, having maybe spoken to a few people or two, 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: that he wasn't super happy coming into the tournament, that 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: he was struggling a little bit. He was, I mean, 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: and he had he had, look he didn't when he's 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 3: you know Australian Open that he lost to Menchikin in 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: the Middle East. He came into Indy Wells a little 135 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: bit sort of underdone for him, like a player that 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: was so dominant going into twenty twenty six hasn't shown 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: that same dominance. So I think for him to get 138 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: through that Fontsaker match, which we talked about, was massive, 139 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: and I think that he actually that really gave him 140 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: the impotence to keep going in this tournament. And he 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: was fabulous because Mehdi was playing unbelievable tennis and to 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: get that win over alcraz and the Semis so well 143 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: done to Youngicksinner. 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: As we say, he's back on the horse, where he's 145 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: back on the train. The train's back on the tracks. 146 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: And Sablenka she must have been, as she said in 147 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: her postmatch conversation at Tennis Channel where she said fuck 148 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: when she thought she was going to lose exactly the 149 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: same way she did in Australia, which was upper break 150 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: in the third, loses her serve, she gets down in 151 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: the tiebreak and she's just like, oh my god, I'm 152 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: going to do it again, and she manages to pull 153 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: out some incredible shots. I mean, Rebaikina was unbelievable as well. 154 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: I mean she was hitting winners left and right. But 155 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: she kind of faulted in those last three or four points, 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: and Sablenka's on this occasion stepped up to win. So 157 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: those two are definitely putting themselves as the top the 158 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: top two players in the world, and clearly their ranked 159 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: number one and two now and deservedly so. 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: But it was a great tournament. 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: Just to add, we'd like to volunteers to just calm 162 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: the farm. 163 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: I just think generally speaking, this really resonated with a 164 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: lot of our audience. We had two listeners who wrote 165 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: to me, specifically, a woman named and who listens regularly, 166 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: and another gentleman out in California named Mark, who also listens, 167 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: and they both made the point that our conversation about 168 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: the night session was really well taken, which is that 169 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: it kills the momentum of the day, It kills the 170 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: schedule of the day. It creates a logistical nightmare, extends 171 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: the matches well into the evening, which is a nightmare 172 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: for broadcast. Not to mention players, volunteers, staff, coaches, people 173 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: who are working in the players cafeteria, all of it 174 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: just you know, the schedule gets messed up, and it's 175 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: not just the players who are coming off the court 176 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: at one it's the facility for people staying until three, 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: four or five in the morning and then opening up 178 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: a few hours later. We talked about this obviously if 179 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: it was open, and I just want to emphasize, you know, 180 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: these tournaments make so much money from sponsorships, It makes 181 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: so much money from broadcast deals. Especially a tournament is 182 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: optimized for this sort of thing, as Indian Wells is 183 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: with all the brands doing stuff there. Lulu Liman paid 184 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: a pretty penny to be on site and did a 185 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: great job. Actually, the store that they put on, you know, 186 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: the the main part of campus to that main gate, 187 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: was bumping. It looked like it was really popular. They 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: obviously became a new main sponsor the tournament this year. This 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: is not a paid ad for them. I just couldn't 190 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: help but notice the fact that but. 191 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: We'll take it, I mean I'll take it. 192 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, it's my you know, my Canadian brethren who 193 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: are responsible for the success of that company. But you know, 194 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: they make a ton of money. The money they make 195 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: is not actually really on tickets, not really. If anything, 196 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: I think the tickets break even given how much staffing 197 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: and you know, catering and all the stuff that it costs, 198 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 2: and so for me when it comes to things like 199 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: night sessions, things like ticketing Stadium two this year, which 200 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: resulted in Stadium two being empty for the large part 201 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: in front of you know, massive, massive matches that should 202 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: have been well attended and filled with screaming fans, because 203 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: you know that screaming fans who are really excited show 204 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: up at places like Indian Wells and other big one 205 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: thousand tournaments, and then you know this idea that like 206 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: you're getting stuck outside the stadium forever and you can't 207 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: watch and you can't fill seats. You know, I remember 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: being a student athlete that the University of Missouri, and 209 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: we had a free pass exactly your point about the 210 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: Beijing Olympics. We had a free pass that said student athlete, 211 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: and we could go and watch any game from any 212 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: other athletic team. And you know a lot of times 213 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: that was the only way I could see our very 214 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: good basketball team and not so good football team. And 215 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: you want the athletes to be invested in each other's success, 216 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: and also just more than anything else, you want the 217 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: environment and the atmosphere and the crowd to be excited 218 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: and engaged and anything you're doing that inhibits that, like 219 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: ticketing stadium number two to make more money or creating 220 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: a night session that kills the day basically is running 221 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: counter to that. And I think for me the tennis, 222 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: it was pretty boring the first week, but yeah, and 223 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: did they finish strong. And I just think anytime you 224 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: see a great match, sort of to your point about 225 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: the first half of the second final, you want us 226 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: to be filled with fans who are pumped to be there. 227 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: And you know, because the tournament doesn't necessarily make a 228 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: huge margin on those tickets, they need to be doing 229 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: a better job of making sure the atmosphere meets moment right. 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: And I think we critique a lot of stretches of 231 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: the calendar. Asia comes to mind in particular. The Middle 232 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: East is another one where they just can't fill seats 233 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: during the week except for the finals. And you know, 234 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: for it to happen at a tournament that's arguably the 235 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: best tournament on American soil, certainly in terms of you know, 236 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: spectacle and money spent on it, it seems like kind 237 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: of a missed opportunity. You know, But that's said to 238 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: your point, the finals were great. I thought Rabachina was 239 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: going to win that match up until pretty much the 240 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: very last point that was struck, which is the kind 241 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: of match I love where I don't know what's going 242 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: to happen, and those two have certainly put themselves out 243 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: as the strongest players in the world, which leads me 244 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: to my very next question as we look to Miami, 245 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: which is what's going on with IGAs Schviantek. 246 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a question only she can answer. 247 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: I mean, really, I don't know what was going on 248 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: on the court in Indian Wells, but she's losing her 249 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: shit left and right. Look, I mean, clearly, if she's 250 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: playing good enough tennis going into the clay, she's arguably 251 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: the best clay court player in the world. I would 252 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: put her over you know, Rebaikina, and I would put 253 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 3: her above Saberlenka in that category for lots of reasons. One, 254 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: she's won a lot more matches on clay, and she 255 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: is how many times has she won the French Open? 256 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: So I think if she plays enough good tennis, she'll 257 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: go into the clay feeling at least remotely okay about herself. 258 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: She's never been somebody that's like needed to necessarily win 259 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: everything on hard court. But yeah, I mean surprising antiques 260 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: on the court, just getting very ahead of her skies. 261 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: As we like to say. The thing that I don't 262 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: like to see is someone so upset on the court. 263 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: And it's something that you see. You saw from Cocoa 264 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Golf a couple of times as well, getting frustrated with 265 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: the serve and sort of getting very on herself about it. 266 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: But it's about what you're showing to your opponent, you know. 267 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: And I'm a big proponent of that, even when I'm coaching, 268 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't show your opponent vulnerability. You just can't, 269 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: and especially when you're playing against great players that are 270 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: going to take advantage of that. And so and I 271 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: always talk about locker room reputation, but that's a locker 272 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: room reputation. If you look down the other end you 273 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: see her getting frustrated, you feel like, okay, I have 274 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: a shot right, especially on a court that usually is 275 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: pretty good for her. It's quite slow out in Narnia 276 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: Welles and so, I don't know. I mean, listen, we 277 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: spoke about it last year. I thought Wimforeset was on 278 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: his last legs last year, and she wins Wimbledon and 279 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: gave him basically eight more years eight more months left 280 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: on his contract, you know, And so you know he's 281 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: going to be under a lot he has to be 282 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: under a lot of pressure going into certainly the clay 283 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: court season. If she doesn't, you know, pick it up 284 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: and win a couple of tournaments, but or win here 285 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: looks you know, every time we counter out, like we 286 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: did last year, she ends up winning Wimbledon. I mean 287 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: I could have bet my house on the fact that 288 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: going out of the clay court season, is she going 289 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: to win? I think she can. I told her she 290 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: could do well at Wimbledon. I told it to her face. 291 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: But when wimble then, I don't know. I probably wouldn't 292 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: have said that, or probably would have put money on 293 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: other people to win Wimbledon over her a Sabalanca for example, 294 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: or even Rubeikna. 295 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: But you know, as soon as she counter out, she 296 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: comes back. 297 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: You're totally right. And we've had this conversation about her before. 298 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: I do have to say most of the chatter on 299 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: the internet, and I know she's your friend, and I 300 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: want to be thoughtful about how I choose my words, 301 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: But most of the chatter on the internet is not 302 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: about wim Past. Most of the chatter on the internet 303 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: is about Daria, who is in her camp, who you know, 304 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: the role of. 305 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: Well, she's going to take most of the hit because 306 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: she is also also the closest person personally to her 307 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: because she's been in her team forever and so and 308 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: the psycho, you know, the psychologist is the one probably 309 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: screaming things out to her, whether it be I don't 310 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: know what she's saying. They're saying it in Polish, but 311 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: I would imagine it would be like, you know, calm 312 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: yourself or get it together, whatever she's saying to her, 313 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: and she's not responding to it, and it is not 314 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: being addressed in her team in a way that it's 315 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: productive clearly for her. And I have not spoken to 316 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: Daria about this, so I don't know, but yeah, I mean, 317 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: certainly there there probably needs to be some come to 318 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: Jesus moments for everybody in that team. 319 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, Look, this is a unique 320 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: situation because as far as I know, nobody else travels 321 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: with a full time psychologist. Do you know of anybody 322 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: who does that? Did any know when you were on 323 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: the tour? I'm sure people who worked with mental coaches 324 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: here and there. But this type of relationship. 325 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: Not not not not I mean she's not there every week. 326 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: She doesn't go to every single tournament. She has been 327 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: absent from for not a lot, but for some tournaments 328 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: in the last couple of years. 329 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: She also coaches another athlete who is not a tennis player, 330 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: So you know, obviously this is not the only person 331 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: in EGA's cookery, but it does seem it seems that 332 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: most of the conversation about EGA's demeanor on court has 333 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: been focused less on wimpo set and tactics and match 334 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: strategy and the stroke production and footwork and mechanics, the 335 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: kind of thing that you would go to a coach for, 336 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: and more like what's her disposition, what's her mental state, 337 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: and what's her like, you know, setting aside performance and 338 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: being able to perform at a high level. You just 339 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: don't want to see anybody, to your point, who's not 340 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: having fun out there. It's a sport, it's a game, 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: and you know it can't be all gum drops and 342 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: lollipops every day. But if you see somebody looking obviously 343 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: so displeased the way that she has for months and 344 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: months and months now it does feel like, oh yeah, 345 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: maybe something, maybe something's not working, maybe something needs to change. 346 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: And you know, the irony of having a psychologist on 347 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: your staff who's supposed to be keeping you in a 348 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: good mental state while you're displaying what seems to not 349 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: be a great mansion state is an irony that you 350 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: know is needs to be addressed, I think at this point. 351 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: But as you yeah, we've kind of rap before. 352 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, looking at the draw, 353 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: she's the number two seed at this time, even though 354 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: she's not now the number three player in the world. 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: But they do the seedings before the tournament in Indy 356 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: u Worl's finishes, so she's not in the she's not 357 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: in the half with Rabaikna, and she's not in the 358 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: half with Sabalanka, So she's in the half with you know, 359 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: the Anissimova's of the world, and of course down her 360 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: section of the drawers Carolina Mahova if she can. 361 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Move through, but. 362 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: Vicki Momboco and Andreva are down in her section of 363 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: the draw in the quarterfinals, so she's going to have 364 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: to answer a lot of emotional questions this week. She's 365 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: been hanging out with Bonjob down there, so maybe he's 366 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: been given a few tips here and there. But yeah, 367 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: certainly a lot of questions to be answered. And as 368 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: I said, if she can control it and get herself 369 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: in a space, a headspace going into the clay, I 370 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: think she'll be clearly a different player. But yeah, there's 371 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: a lot of questions to be answered on from her 372 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: and everyone in the team. 373 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: One one person who's we've talked at length about over 374 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: the last couple of months has been one of my 375 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: perennial favorites who now seems to have answered so questions, 376 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: even though he continues to have some of the worst 377 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: travel luck of anybody on the pro tour is our 378 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: guy Danil Medvedev, who came up short against Center who 379 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: played very, very high level tennis. But Daniel Medvedev takes 380 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: out Alcoriz on the way home. He barely made it there. 381 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: He had to like cross you know, multiple conflict zones 382 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: and crazy planes, trains and automobiles to get to Indian Wells, 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: beats Carlos Alkoriz in the semifinals, gets to the finals, 384 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: plays great inspired, weird tennis the kind we love. Gets 385 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: to Miami, United loses his bag. Seems like he's got 386 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: it now. Maybe he'll be in great shape now actually 387 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: because of all of the obstacles he's endured. But man, 388 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: is it fun to have medi back in what appears 389 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: to be close to his you know, top form. 390 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. 391 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to be a complete like 392 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: Wanka here, but like, dude, get a private plane like 393 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: he can afford it. He won like a million dollars 394 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: on the weekend. He's won like three million dollars in 395 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: the last three months, two months, not even one month, 396 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: So listen, he's definitely maybe this is a thing for 397 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: him going into a tournament. He has to have absolute 398 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: travel disasters. They did find his bag. His coaches I'm 399 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: not sure about. But if he is to get through 400 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: in his section of the drawer, he will possibly play 401 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: against Ben Shelton. That'll be, I believe, a third round. 402 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: So I mean, that'll be a fun match just in 403 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: and of itself. He is in the semi final section 404 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: with Janick Sinner, so that's a possible matchup in the 405 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: semis again. But yeah, I mean, aside from the tennis, like, 406 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 3: what's going to happen in Miami, etc. Which is very 407 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: hard to do the double as not many players have 408 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: been able to do the double when India was when Miami. 409 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: It will be great to see him again through the 410 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: semis or finals, because we love his explosiveness, we love 411 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: the storytelling. He's always got something going on. You know, 412 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people disliked his attempt to try and 413 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: say who was born on a point with with out 414 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: mister gentleman Jack Draper, And yes, I mean I sort 415 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: of might have even mentioned something along the lines of, look, 416 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't his decision. 417 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: You know, he felt like he saw something. He didn't 418 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: play a great point. 419 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: The umpire made a really poor decision because the umpire 420 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: decided that it put him off. 421 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: But frankly, he hit. 422 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: Two shots after that. So if you were if you 423 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: were put off, you should have called it. You should 424 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: have said I saw him. 425 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: You can look at the video. 426 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: He put me off, and then there would be no 427 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: question then right, and Jack would take it like a man, 428 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: He would be like a gentleman. He'd be like, yep, 429 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: I put my hands up by gestured. But still, you 430 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: know that happened a gazillion times in people's in matches 431 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: like I have thrown up my hands, people have thrown 432 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: out their hands where their mindsman's there or the electronic 433 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: line from and I don't think I've ever ever seen 434 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: a call being given to a player because the player 435 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: made a gesture that the balls out, like so that 436 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: was just a it was worth asking, he asked, And 437 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: the umpire is the one that should have said no, 438 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you this point. 439 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: So that's it. So don't blame many. 440 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: But as he said, I've been screwed on many occasions 441 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: as he has, and we've witnessed a few of them. 442 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: And he did laugh at the press conference because he 443 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: said maybe I got one on my side. So some 444 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: people don't like him for it, but I'm like, give 445 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: me a bright like it was the umpire that have 446 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: your hate against the umpire, not against many. 447 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: And also just like you know, for the I had 448 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: a conversation with somebody last night, my friend David Gellis, 449 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: who's another journalist who's like, every time I hate a 450 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: tennis player, I think of you. I'm like, thank you. 451 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: He was like, money, I hate that guy. I was like, 452 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: you're totally misplaced. The tennis needs him he's not a villain. 453 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: He's a troll. Like there's a very different thing. 454 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good way of putting it. 455 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 2: He's just not he's not malevolent, but he is an 456 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: agent of chaos, and sometimes it crosses a line, like 457 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: last year when we saw him start a riot on 458 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 2: Loui Armstrong Court and nearly clawed back a match from 459 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: a down match point after a photographer accidentally gave him 460 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: a free pass. But like you know, you kind of 461 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: put up with the good bad. Now on the men's side, 462 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: I do feel like you alluded to this, but I 463 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: want to dig into it now that we're transitioning from 464 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: Indian Wells into Miami, which is this conversation for most 465 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 2: of the year has been how on earth is Sinner 466 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: going to right the ship and get back into the 467 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: same achelon as Carlos Algraz Because, as we've discussed many times, 468 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: as much fun as it is to have the Medvedevs, 469 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: the bubles, my Man Stefano SUITSU passes, other than playing 470 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: some pretty good mixed leubles is permanently lost to the 471 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: seas you know, But really it's those two. 472 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: So now I think we need to just stop. 473 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 3: I think we just need to stop mentioning Citzapass's name. 474 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: I know, just let's just like he needs to go. 475 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: Let's replace him with a learner ten or you know, 476 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: fucking I'm looking at the drawer like mensik or mute. 477 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather talk about those guys than. 478 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: Any day, you know, Koboli, like these guys like Sita 479 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 3: pass Is. 480 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: It's gone. Although did you see. 481 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: Dominic Team put out an in the gram saying he 482 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: was maybe coming back, And I'm thinking, if anyone can 483 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: help you hit your backhand better, it might be him. 484 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: Just saying, actually, that's a great idea. But I don't 485 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: think Dominic Team, with his quiet Austrian reservedness, will be 486 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: able to overpower the main problem with Stephsenos Titupaz's life, 487 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: which is his dad. Like that's clearly the problem. A 488 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: coach needs to like take a crowbar and remove that dude, 489 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: and then you know, I don't know what we're gonna 490 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: have left, but it's gonna be better than what we 491 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: have now. But getting back to Carlos and Yanik, where 492 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: are we now? Having witnessed Carlos go down in the 493 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: semis and Yanik, it's still no change or has this 494 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: tech has the momentum shifted. 495 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: No. 496 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: I think that they're both about where they should be. 497 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: I think that Alcarez is clearly the best player in 498 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: the world on every surface. I think he lost to 499 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: a better player in medi I think there were certainly 500 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: moments that he might want to take back in Innure. 501 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: But one thing that we'll get tested is that our 502 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: friend mister Jao Fonseca, if he wins his match against Marajan, 503 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: which I suspect he will, although it would be a 504 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: match that Fonseka would lose, but he's going to have 505 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: crazy support in Miami. I believe the match is almost 506 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: about to go on. He will play Alcoraz in the 507 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: second round. Now I don't know about you, Caitlin, but 508 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm thinking that that might be one of the most entertaining, 509 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: loudest matches in I was going to say South America 510 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: feels like South America in Miami that I've ever heard. 511 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just like listening to the World 512 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: Baseball Championships with Venezuela and the US. I felt like 513 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: there was more Venezuelans in the in the stands in Miami, 514 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: So that to me I'm just praying no offense, Majan, 515 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: but I'm praying that Fonseca wins because I really do 516 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 3: believe after the match, we saw that he's starting to 517 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: believe that he needs to be more professional, more involved. 518 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: Every point in Fonseca I'm talking about, and so that 519 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: will be a litmus test to see how Alcarez handles 520 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: him a little bit right in South, in South Florida, 521 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: I keep saying South America. 522 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: In Miami, I feel like South America, South America. 523 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think Alcarez is the favorite to win 524 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 3: this tournament because of his support and the fact that 525 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: he played so well in Miami. It was one of 526 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: the big tournaments that he won early in his career. 527 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: But yes, I mean there's no doubt that Yannick looked happier, 528 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: he looked more relaxed. 529 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: I think he did come into Indian. 530 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: Wells with a little bit of a sort of a 531 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 3: bit of uncertainty and lack of confidence, if you can 532 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: believe that from you know, a guy that had such 533 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: a phenomenal year last year. But yeah, I think he's back, 534 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: and I think Alcarez didn't lose anything losing to medi 535 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: I think he would accept that move on. He played 536 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: golf probably for three days after that, had a good time, 537 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: and moved on. He got his kangaroo tattoo, as we've 538 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: all seen, and I will suspect that we will probably 539 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: see Yanick and our friend Carlos in the final again. 540 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: But as I said, you know, there's a lot of 541 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: storylines still still to be told. But it's so nice 542 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: to see Medvedev get a win over Alkirez or if 543 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: it would have been seen, because it would have said, oh, 544 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: don't forget about me. So yeah, I'm excited about the 545 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: prospect of, you know, the second round obviously with Acras 546 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 3: and Fonseca, before we even get to further in the tournament. 547 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: I hope that I will be there because I would 548 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: like to experience I have never been to one of 549 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: those famous Miami night matches with the South American fan. 550 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: Oh wait, so you want night matches or you just 551 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: don't want. 552 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 2: The No, I don't double ticket. I don't want them 553 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: to I don't want them to clear the stadium. 554 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't wanted to talk. 555 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: I think if you're there, you're there, you get, you 556 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: get a day of tennis, and you get well until you. 557 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: Die well, speaking of getting there without the rain, the 558 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: situation that happened with the rain and the lines and 559 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: the cancelation of stadium courts and they didn't allow people 560 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: onto the facility. What are you thoughts on that, Caitlin. 561 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm actually kind of gonna side with the 562 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: tournament here. I think it's really tough, Like you know 563 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: that the matches are going to be very, very dicey. 564 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: They did, in fact end up being canceled almost entirely, 565 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: so like getting a whole bunch of people in and 566 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: out of a situation like that. Also, and I know 567 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: we usually shit on how temporary and gross the Miami 568 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: facility is. I've been there in a few years. I'm 569 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: excited to see if it's better. I've heard the first 570 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: sort of ring around the stadium Florida has gotten nicer. 571 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: But more than anything else, it's just a lot of 572 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: it is bleachers and so that is slippery. It is 573 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: tough to ask, So I'm actually kind of a little 574 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: It was funny I was talking to one of our 575 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: photographers who's down there, who's shooting sort of daily tournament 576 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: coverage but also some stuff for the next print issue 577 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: of the magazine, and he was saying that, you know, 578 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: actually a lot of the players, even though the courts 579 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: were soaking wet and there were no fans, they wanted 580 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: to get out on the practice court. And he was 581 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: resting dismay because not only are the courts a little slippery, 582 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: but also when the balls get wet, anybody who knows 583 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: anything about tennis knows those balls are going to become 584 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: ten pounds each and so you're hitting with a ten 585 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: pound water logged tennis ball on a slippery surface. And 586 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe that anybody would want to practice. 587 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: Surely it's better to go. I mean, there are famously 588 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: no indoor tennis courts in Miami, which is hilarious, but like, 589 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't you just rather have your player on a treadmill 590 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: for an hour to get some sweat than like go hurd. 591 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope. 592 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: Of course, have been into that in that situation as 593 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: a player many many times, as a coach many many times, 594 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: and it's this weird thing that you think you're going 595 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: to forget how to play tennis and what you have 596 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: to recognize as a player or as a coach to 597 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: say everyone is dealing with the same thing. 598 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: We're all going to be in the same boat. Don't 599 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: freak out about it. 600 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: But it is very hard because we are very used 601 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: to practicing for hours in a day to feel good 602 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: about our tennis. So it's a tough situation. It was 603 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: a tough situation with the tournament, you know. Obviously, I 604 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: think that more along the lines of just expressing to 605 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: the people why. Everyone wants to know the why, okay, 606 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: And I think that that's one lesson that the tournament 607 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: probably can learn, is how to get the why out 608 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: to the spectators. And your description of it is, you know, 609 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: was really good. We had a really great story. This 610 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: young kid, Kawami, seventeen years of age, French, a man 611 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 3: one his first round. He's the youngest player to win 612 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: a match at A one thousand since Rafael Nadal did 613 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: it in two thousand and three. So it's been twenty 614 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: two years since a guy that young as one a 615 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: Master's one thousand match, So we're going to be keeping 616 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: our eye on him. He has spoken very openly about 617 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: he wants to be number one in the world. I'm like, okay, 618 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: you're putting it out there. 619 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I don't 620 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: mind it at all. 621 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: But still that's some big shoes to fill. And you've 622 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: got a lot of people in front of you that 623 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: are not that much older than you, my friend, that 624 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: are doing really good things. But nice to see a 625 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: when he's it was really sweet, walked down the other end, 626 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: gave him a hug, like, realize how important it was 627 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: for him to do that. On the other spectrum, we 628 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: just saw Venus Williams lose in a really tough two 629 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: set match against Franji and seven five seventy five. You know, 630 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: Venus is hitting the ball well, she just made just 631 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: a few too many unforced eras in the big moments. 632 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Just couldn't get the job done. 633 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: I know how much it would have meant to her 634 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: to win a match in basically her hometown in Miami, 635 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: and so a bummer she's pushing them. She just can't 636 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: get that win, that elusive win that she got in Washington, 637 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: DC last year. But you know, it's great to see 638 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: her out there. It was a pretty decent crowd watching her. 639 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: I say, give her wild cards until she doesn't want 640 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: to play anymore, and it's up to her if she 641 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: doesn't win a match. 642 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: It's fine. 643 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: She sells more tickets than you know, no offense to opponent. 644 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: But the people are going to watch her, not not 645 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: Fran Jones, and I love Fran And she's an incredible story. 646 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: If you don't know anything about Franny Jones, look it 647 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: up because what she does on the tennis court is 648 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: unfathomable to be honest, us with her, you know, with 649 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: her with her hands and the you know, the essentially 650 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: a little bit of a disability that she has in 651 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: her hands, and the way she plays tennis, it's just unbelievable. 652 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: So it's a great story. But you know, nice to 653 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: Cev out there, and she looked great, Like she looked 654 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: so healthy. That's why she wants to play. 655 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: She's got the best outfit, she's got a look, she's 656 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: got the crowd engagement. So like, you know, for me, 657 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: it's just like as long as she wants to play, 658 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: you right, she'll If it could becomes so bad and 659 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: so unwatchable that people don't show up, somebody tells me 660 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: she'll know, and we'll certainly know. But until it happens, 661 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: like what are we doing, like let her play, let 662 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: her cook, let her go. 663 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, letter letter Cook. 664 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 665 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: So anyway, obviously a little bit of an hospicious start 666 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: from Miami with the dealing with the weather, which you 667 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: often get down in Miami. They get the rain, Indian 668 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: Wells gets wind and all kinds of crazy stuff, bees 669 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: and other than that, looks like they're. 670 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Underway and they're doing great. They've got a few matches 671 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: to catch up on. But I don't know. 672 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: I don't know this back to back Indian Wells, Miami, 673 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: back to back one thousands like Cincinnati and Canada. 674 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: I just, I just I don't know. 675 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: I just feel like they should be a priority onto 676 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: themselves and they shouldn't have to back up against two 677 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: really important tournaments. I'll say it till I'm blue in 678 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: the face. I don't know why we keep doing this 679 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: to players. I don't know why we keep doing it 680 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: to the fans. Spread it out more, have Miami at 681 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: different times, or have it some I don't know. We've 682 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: been talking about this for so long I can't even 683 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: talk about it anymore, to be honest. But we'll see 684 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: who wins these tournaments. I was down in Miami last year, Caitlin, 685 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: I can tell you this. Facilities are much better and 686 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: the players actually really quite enjoy some of them. The 687 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: restaurant's great, everything's really good, and they've tried really hard 688 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: to make it better for the players, and I know 689 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: that the players appreciate it. 690 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: It's very different to Indian Wells, but there are positives 691 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: and negatives to both. But anyway, we're looking. 692 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: Forward to spend a lot of time talking about the schedule, 693 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: as we always do. But I think for me, the 694 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: main thing is I'm just trying to enjoy the fact 695 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: that there's so much tennis in our time zone, with 696 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: players playing really well, with a lot of great stories, 697 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: and so, you know, again, feel free to listen to 698 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: our back catalog if you want a lot of suggestions 699 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: about schedule changes. I'm sure it's not gonna be the 700 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: last time we talked about it, but yeah, I'm just 701 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: really like engaged in how fun the early rounds are, 702 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: especially now that it's madness, because they have, you know, 703 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: basically three days of tennis to catch up on in 704 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: like the next few days. 705 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, well they'll figure it out. They always do. 706 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: Hotly there's normal rain on normal misdays or complete days 707 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: at least, but we'll see. 708 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: But we're here for it. We're going to bring it 709 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: all to you and Caitlin, thanks for joining me. Have 710 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: fun down there. You have an event down there right 711 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: with Racket. 712 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: We're going to do a couple of events. We're doing 713 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: a big thing with Wilson, and then we are going 714 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: to have an issue launch party at the new Proper 715 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: hotel called the Shelburn. We'll have some Latin house music 716 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: and let's. 717 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: Give a shout out to Let's give a shout out 718 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 3: to our old friend Kelly Wortzler, because that is her, 719 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: that's her property, the new Michelle Bourne, the new Proper 720 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: down there in Miami. 721 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: And if you have never been to a. 722 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: Kelly Wurtzler hotel or had the pleasure of staying one, 723 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: you're missing out because nobody does a hotel better in 724 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: interior better than Kelly Wurtzler. So that's a shout out 725 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: to our friend. And we're not getting paid for that, 726 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 3: and we're not making any money from the Proper, but 727 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: we'll take it. 728 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: We'll take it. 729 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: We'll take some free room, exactly. 730 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 3: We'll take some free rooms Kelly. Okay, guys, thanks for 731 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: joining us to day and we'll see you with a 732 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: wrap up next week. 733 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: Of even more tennis from Miami. See Caitlin have a 734 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: good trip. 735 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: Back to back to back back