1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Renee Substams Podcast. I'm joined 2 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: by Kaitlin. 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Caitlin, you're in Miami, aren't you just about to be? 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Whatever? 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 4: Fun should have known by the cloud the window situation 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 4: you have going on behind you. But having said that, 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: it's been pretty crappy in Miami, can we just start 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 4: on before we get to Miami? 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about any and Well's. 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: I just want to rush over it real quick for 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: our listeners, because everybody, we know that people like to 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: hear our thoughts on what happened over there. What an 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: amazing couple of finals. I mean, really, thank god somebody 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 4: invented the tie break. That's all I'm going to say, 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: because we had three of them in the finals, two 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: and the men's and of course the last set for 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: the women's was unbelievable. What are your thoughts about the 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: back to back final there? 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: I loved it. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 5: I thought it made for one viewing experience. I thought 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 5: the crowd got what they wanted, which was not only 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 5: two great finals, but two great matches in a row. 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 5: And I think that that is kind of my big 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 5: takeaway from Indian Wells, which is what do the crowds want, 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: let's give it to them. Let's make sure tennis is 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: played in front of people who were enthusiastically filling seats. 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: So for me, I really loved it. I thought it 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: was great. 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: What about you, Yeah, I mean I feel badly for 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: I feel badly for the second match in a lot 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: of ways though, because half of the stadium was empty 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: for a good chunk of the first set. That's the 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: one thing that I struggle with there, you know what 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: I mean. And I think either way, whether it was 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: the men or the women, I think it's unfair to 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: whoever comes second for that first bit. You know, you 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: should be walking onto the court and with a full stadium, 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: excited to see a final. And I don't like that 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: half of the stadium is getting a drink and after 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: sitting in the sun for two and a half hours, 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: admittedly probably stay out of the sun for a little while. 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: And I just think that's kind of really tough for 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: the second final, which happened to be the men's in 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: this occasion. So I felt it just doesn't look good 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: on TV as well. 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 5: Agreed, And I wonder if it might be time to 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: broach a very uncomfortable subject here, which has nothing to 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: do with the tennis playing, but has everything to do 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: with tennis viewing, which is, do you think it's finally 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 5: time for us to just let people come and go 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 5: as it please? 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Are you saying into the stadium? 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I thought that's what we 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: were doing. I mean, what didn't we didn't we figure 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: that out from the straight and open that it works. 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: So are we not doing that? I felt we were 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 4: doing that. I thought that was happening Induea. 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: Certainly was not happening in Indian Wells. For the matches 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: that I watch, I got screamed at a couple of 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: times by the I don't want to pick on or 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: anybody or b agist, but typically the volunteers in Indian Wells, 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: because of the endemic population who tends to live in 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 5: Indian Wells year round is the over seventy set. 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 3: You know, they get a lot of volunteers. 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: Who are you know, along in the tooth and they 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: do not like it. Even if you're moving and grooving 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: and getting to your seat quickly. They do not like 68 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: it if you are anything other than still by the 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: time they decide to close that gate. 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: And I got in trouble a couple of times. 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: Just trying to find people, connect with people, sit next 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: to people who are you know, in random places, and 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 5: it's hard to get in and out, and you find 74 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: yourself on the outside of a of a stadium waiting 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 5: in line, and it can be you know, ten, fifteen, 76 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 5: twenty minutes before the changeover happens, and even then you 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 5: can't get guaranteed access to the seats. So I do 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: think part of that is Tennis has got to get 79 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: over it and just accept that people are going to 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: be moving around. I think it's happening at the US Open, 81 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 5: and it happens in Australia, but it's not happening at 82 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: all the tournaments because it was not happening in. 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: The Okay, Well, you you're telling me something I didn't know, 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: because I did not go to the Tennis and India 85 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: whiles I was watching all of mine in the comfort 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: of my air conditioning or frankly in the. 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Cold of New York. 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: But having said that, yeah, that's surprising to me because 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 4: I thought we'd kind of moved on and gotten to 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: the point where actually people were allowed to go in 91 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: and out of the stadium, especially a stadium of that enormity, 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: and so I would, as we like to do here 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 4: on our podcast, we like to tell the higher ups 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: what to do with their tournaments. 95 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: And that is a disaster. 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: And I will say, having played that tournament many, many, 97 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: many times, having coached that tournament many times, having gone 98 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: and just viewed matches with friends many times, the volunteers, 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: we really appreciate you. 100 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: But they are the toughest. 101 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: And most stringent of volunteers. And I have on many 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 4: occasions k and have gone and mentioned that a couple 103 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: of times to the higher of the tournament to say, 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: if there's an entire part of the stadium that is 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: free and no one's at a match, and I have 106 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: a player's badge on or a coach's badge on, and 107 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: I would like to sit a little bit closer to 108 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: the court where nobody's sitting, and you don't allow us 109 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: to sit there, that's a little bit of an issue. 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: And so I would say that It's one of the 111 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: reasons why I actually loved the Olympics in Beijing, believe 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: it or not, was that they did for the first time, 113 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: they allowed athletes to go and watch any event they wanted, 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: and there was an athlete section to go and watch 115 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: every other Olympics. Pid of that you actually, even as 116 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: an athlete, had to get tickets to events, which, as 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: you can imagine, was a nightmare. And so any event, 118 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: any tennis event, should allow players to go and watch 119 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: a match if they want. And so if they're going 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: out in the sun in Indian Welles and going to 121 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: watch a friend play, let them sit wherever they want. Now, 122 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: if someone comes along to sit in that seat that 123 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 4: has the tickets, of course, the first thing a player 124 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: is going to do is get up and allow the 125 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: person that has paid a lot of money to sit 126 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: in those. 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Seats to sit there. 128 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: So we're going to throw it out to Indian Wells. 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: Fantastic finals. Well done to Younickinner. What a I think 130 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: a little bit of a momentum changer for him, because 131 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 4: I suspect, having maybe spoken to a few people or two, 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: that he wasn't super happy coming into the tournament, that 133 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: he was struggling a little bit. He was, I mean, 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: and he had he had, look he didn't when he's 135 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 4: you know Australian Open that he lost to Menchikin in 136 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: the Middle East. He came into Indy Wells a little 137 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: bit sort of underdone for him, like a player that 138 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: was so dominant going into twenty twenty six hasn't shown 139 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: that same dominance. So I think for him to get 140 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: through that Fontsaker match, which we talked about, was massive, 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: and I think that he actually that really gave him 142 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: the impotence to keep going in this tournament. And he 143 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: was fabulous because Mehdi was playing unbelievable tennis and to 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: get that win over alcraz and the Semis so well 145 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: done to Youngicksinner. 146 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: As we say, he's back on the horse, where he's 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: back on the train. The train's back on the tracks. 148 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: And Sablenka she must have been, as she said in 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: her postmatch conversation at Tennis Channel where she said fuck 150 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: when she thought she was going to lose exactly the 151 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: same way she did in Australia, which was upper break 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: in the third, loses her serve, she gets down in 153 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: the tiebreak and she's just like, oh my god, I'm 154 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: going to do it again, and she manages to pull 155 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: out some incredible shots. I mean, Rebaikina was unbelievable as well. 156 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: I mean she was hitting winners left and right. But 157 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: she kind of faulted in those last three or four points, 158 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: and Sablenka's on this occasion stepped up to win. So 159 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: those two are definitely putting themselves as the top the 160 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: top two players in the world, and clearly their ranked 161 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: number one and two now and deservedly so. 162 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: But it was a great tournament. 163 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: Just to add, we'd like to volunteers to just calm 164 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: the farm. 165 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 5: I just think generally speaking, this really resonated with a 166 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: lot of our audience. We had two listeners who wrote 167 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: to me, specifically, a woman named and who listens regularly, 168 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 5: and another gentleman out in California named Mark, who also listens, 169 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 5: and they both made the point that our conversation about 170 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: the night session was really well taken, which is that 171 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: it kills the momentum of the day, It kills the 172 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: schedule of the day. It creates a logistical nightmare, extends 173 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 5: the matches well into the evening, which is a nightmare 174 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: for broadcast. Not to mention players, volunteers, staff, coaches, people 175 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 5: who are working in the players cafeteria, all of it 176 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 5: just you know, the schedule gets messed up, and it's 177 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: not just the players who are coming off the court 178 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 5: at one it's the facility for people staying until three, 179 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 5: four or five in the morning and then opening up 180 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 5: a few hours later. We talked about this obviously if 181 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 5: it was open, and I just want to emphasize, you know, 182 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: these tournaments make so much money from sponsorships, It makes 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: so much money from broadcast deals. Especially a tournament is 184 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: optimized for this sort of thing, as Indian Wells is 185 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: with all the brands doing stuff there. Lulu Liman paid 186 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: a pretty penny to be on site and did a 187 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 5: great job. Actually, the store that they put on, you know, 188 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: the the main part of campus to that main gate, 189 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 5: was bumping. It looked like it was really popular. They 190 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 5: obviously became a new main sponsor the tournament this year. This 191 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: is not a paid ad for them. I just couldn't 192 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 5: help but notice the fact that but. 193 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: We'll take it, I mean I'll take it. 194 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 195 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 5: Sure, it's my you know, my Canadian brethren who are 196 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: responsible for the success of that company. But you know, 197 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: they make a ton of money. The money they make 198 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: is not actually really on tickets, not really. If anything, 199 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 5: I think the tickets break even given how much staffing 200 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: and you know, catering and all the stuff that it costs, 201 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 5: and so for me when it comes to things like 202 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: night sessions, things like ticketing Stadium two this year, which 203 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 5: resulted in Stadium two being empty for the large part 204 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: in front of you know, massive, massive matches that should 205 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 5: have been well attended and filled with screaming fans, because 206 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: you know that screaming fans who are really excited show 207 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: up at places like Indian Wells and other big one 208 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: thousand tournaments, and then you know this idea that like 209 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 5: you're getting stuck outside the stadium forever and you can't 210 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: watch and you can't fill seats. You know, I remember 211 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: being a student athlete that the University of Missouri, and 212 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: we had a free pass exactly your point about the 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: Beijing Olympics. We had a free pass that said student athlete, 214 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 5: and we could go and watch any game from any 215 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 5: other athletic team. And you know a lot of times 216 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 5: that was the only way I could see our very 217 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 5: good basketball team and not so good football team. And 218 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 5: you want the athletes to be invested in each other's success, 219 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: and also just more than anything else, you want the 220 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 5: environment and the atmosphere and the crowd to be excited 221 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 5: and engaged and anything you're doing that inhibits that, like 222 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: ticketing stadium number two to make more money or creating 223 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 5: a night session that kills the day basically is running 224 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: counter to that. And I think for me the tennis, 225 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: it was pretty boring the first week, but yeah, and 226 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: did they finish strong. And I just think anytime you 227 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: see a great match, sort of to your point about 228 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 5: the first half of the second final, you want us 229 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 5: to be filled with fans who are pumped to be there. 230 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 5: And you know, because the tournament doesn't necessarily make a 231 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 5: huge margin on those tickets, they need to be doing 232 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: a better job of making sure the atmosphere meets moment right. 233 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: And I think we critique a lot of stretches of 234 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: the calendar. Asia comes to mind in particular. The Middle 235 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 5: East is another one where they just can't fill seats 236 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: during the week except for the finals. And you know, 237 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 5: for it to happen at a tournament that's arguably the 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: best tournament on American soil, certainly in terms of you know, 239 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: spectacle and money spent on it, it seems like kind 240 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 5: of a missed opportunity. You know, But that's said to 241 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: your point, the finals were great. I thought Rabachina was 242 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: going to win that match up until pretty much the 243 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: very last point that was struck, which is the kind 244 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: of match I love where I don't know what's going 245 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: to happen, and those two have certainly put themselves out 246 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: as the strongest players in the world, which leads me 247 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: to my very next question as we look to Miami, 248 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: what's going on with Ega Shiantek. 249 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a question only she can answer. 250 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 4: I mean, really, I don't know what was going on 251 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: on the court in Indian Wells, but she's losing her 252 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: shit left and right. Look, I mean, clearly, if she's 253 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: playing good enough tennis going into the clay, she's still 254 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: arguable the best clay court player in the world. I 255 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: would put her over you know, Rebakina, and I would 256 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: put her above Sabolenka in that category for lots of reasons. One, 257 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: she's won a lot more matches on clay, and she 258 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: is how many times has she won the French Open? 259 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: So I think if she plays enough good tennis, she'll 260 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: go into the clay feeling at least remotely okay about herself. 261 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: She's never been somebody that's like needed to necessarily win 262 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 4: everything on hard court. But yeah, I mean surprising antiques 263 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: on the court, just getting very ahead of her skies. 264 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: As we like to say. The thing that I don't 265 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: like to see is someone so upset on the court. 266 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: And it's something that you see. 267 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: You saw from Coca Golf a couple of times as well, 268 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: getting frustrated with the serb and sort of getting very 269 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: on herself about it. 270 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: But it's about what you're showing to your opponent, you know. 271 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: And I'm a big proponent of that, even when I'm coaching, 272 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, you can't show your opponent vulnerability. You just can't, 273 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: and especially when you're playing against great players that are 274 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 4: going to take advantage of that. And so and I 275 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: always talk about locker room reputation, but that's a locker 276 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: room reputation. If you look down the other end you 277 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: see her getting frustrated, you feel like, okay, I have 278 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: a shot right, especially on a court that usually is 279 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: pretty good for her. It's quite slow out in Naria Welles, 280 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: and so I don't know. I mean, listen, we spoke 281 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: about it last year. I thought Wimforsat was on his 282 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: last legs last year, and she wins Wimbledon and gave 283 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 4: him basically eight more years eight more months left on 284 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: his contract, you know, and so you know he's going 285 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: to be under a lot he has to be under 286 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: a lot of pressure going into certainly the clay court season. 287 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: If she doesn't, you know, pick it up and win 288 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: a couple of tournaments, but or win here looks you know, 289 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: every time we counter out, like we did last year, 290 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: she ends up winning Wimbledon. I mean I could have 291 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: bet my house on the fact that going out of 292 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: the clay court season, is she going to win? 293 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: I think she can. 294 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: I told her she could do well at Wimbledon. I 295 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: told it to her face. But when Wimbledon, I don't know. 296 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't have said that, or probably would have 297 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: put money on other people to win wimblen over her 298 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 4: a Sabalanca for example, or even Rubeikina. 299 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: But you know, as soon as she counter out, she 300 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: comes back. 301 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: You're totally right. 302 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: And we've had this conversation about her before. I do 303 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: have to say, most of the chatter on the internet, 304 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: and I know she's your friend, and I want to 305 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: be thoughtful about how I choose my words, but most 306 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 5: of the chatter on the internet is not about whimpazet. 307 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 5: Most of the chatter on the internet is abou Daria, 308 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: who is in her camp, who you know, the role of. 309 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: Well, she's going to take most of the hit because 310 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: she is also the closest person personally to her, because 311 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: she's been in her team forever and so and the psycho, 312 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: you know, the psychologist is the one probably screaming things 313 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: out to her, whether it be I don't know what 314 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: she's saying. They're saying it in Polish, but I would 315 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: imagine it would be like, you know, calm yourself or 316 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: get it together, whatever she's saying to her, and she's 317 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: not responding to it, and it is not being addressed 318 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: in her team in a way that it's productive clearly 319 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: for her. And I have not spoken to Daria about this, 320 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: so I don't know, but yeah, I mean, certainly there 321 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: there probably needs to be some come to Jesus moments 322 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: for everybody in that team. 323 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think, Look, this is a unique 324 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: situation because as far as I know, nobody else travels 325 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 5: with a full time psychologist. Do you know of anybody 326 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: who does that? Did anything when you were on the tour. 327 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 5: I'm sure people who worked with mental coaches here and there, 328 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 5: but this type of relationship. 329 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: Not not not not I mean she's not there every week. 330 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: She doesn't go to every single tournament. She has been 331 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: absent from for not a lot, but for some tournaments. 332 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: In the last couple of years. 333 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: She also coaches another athlete who is not a tennis player, 334 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: So you know, obviously this is not the only person 335 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: in EGA's cookery, but it does seem it seems that 336 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: most of the conversation about EGA's demeanor on court has 337 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: been focused less on wimpo set and tactics and match 338 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 5: strategy and the stroke production and footwork and mechanics, the 339 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: kind of thing that you would go to a coach for, 340 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: and more like what's her disposition, what's her mental state, 341 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: and what's her like, you know, setting aside performance and 342 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: being able to perform at high level. You just don't 343 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: want to see anybody, to your point, who's not having 344 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: fun out there. It's a sport, it's a game, and 345 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 5: you know it can't be all gum drops and lollipops 346 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 5: every day. But if you see somebody looking obviously so 347 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 5: displeased the way that she has for months and months 348 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 5: and months now, it does feel like, oh yeah, maybe something, 349 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: maybe something's not working, maybe something needs to change. And 350 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: you know, the irony of having a psychologist on your 351 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: staff who's supposed to be keeping you in a good 352 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: mental state while you're displaying what seems to not be 353 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 5: a great Manton state is an irony that you know 354 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 5: is needs to be addressed, I think at this point. 355 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: But as you said, we've kind of rap before. 356 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, looking at the draw, 357 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: she's the number two seed at this time, even though 358 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: she's own not now the number three player in the world. 359 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: But they do the seedings before the tournament in Indi 360 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 4: Uor's finishes, so she's not in the she's not in 361 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: the half with Rabaikina, and she's not in the half 362 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: with Sabalanca, So she's in the half with you know, 363 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 4: the Anissimovas of the world, and of course, down her 364 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: section of the drawers Carolina Mahova if she can move through, 365 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 4: but Vicki Momboco and Andreva are down in her section 366 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: of the draw in the quarterfinals, so she's going to 367 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: have to answer a lot of emotional questions this week. 368 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 4: She's been hanging out with Bonjob down there, so maybe 369 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: he's been given a few tips here and there, but yeah, 370 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: certainly a lot of questions to be answered. And as 371 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: I said, if she can control it and get herself 372 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 4: in a space, a headspace going into the clay, I 373 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 4: think she'll be clearly a different player. But yeah, there's 374 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: a lot of lot of questions to be answered on 375 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: from her and everyone in the team. 376 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 5: One person who's we've talked at length about over the 377 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 5: last couple of months has been one of my perennial 378 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 5: favorites who now seems to have answered some questions, even 379 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 5: though he's continues to have some of the worst travel 380 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 5: luck of anybody on the pro tour is our guy 381 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 5: Danil Medvedev, who came up short against center who played very, 382 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 5: very high level tennis. But Daniel Medvedev takes out Alcorizm 383 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: the way home. He barely made it there. He had 384 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: to like cross you know, multiple conflict zones and crazy planes, 385 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 5: trains and automobiles to get to Indian Wells. Beats Carlos 386 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 5: Alkoriz in the semifinals, gets to the finals, plays great inspired, 387 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 5: weird tennis the kind we love, gets to Miami United, 388 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: loses his bag. Seems like he's got it now. Maybe 389 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 5: he'll be in great shape now actually because of all 390 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: of the obstacles he's endured. But man, is it fun 391 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: to have Medi back in what appears to be close 392 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 5: to his you know, top form. 393 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. 394 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to be a complete like 395 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: Wanka here, but like, dude, get a private plane like 396 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: he can afford it. He won like a million dollars 397 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: on the weekend. He's won like three million dollars in 398 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: the last three months to months, not even one month, 399 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: So listen, he's definitely maybe this is a thing for 400 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: him going into a tournament. He has to have absolute 401 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: travel disasters. They did find his bag, his coaches I'm 402 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: not sure about. But if he is to get through 403 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: in his section of the drawer, he will possibly play 404 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: against Ben Shelton. That'll be, I believe, a third round. 405 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 4: So I mean, that'll be a fun match just in 406 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: and of itself. He is in the semi final section 407 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 4: with Janick Sinner, so that's a possible matchup in the 408 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: semis again. But yeah, I mean, aside from the tennis, 409 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: like what's going to happen in Miami, etc. Which is 410 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: very hard to do the double as not many players 411 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: have been able to do the double when Indian wells 412 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: when Miami, it will be great to see him again 413 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 4: through the semis or finals. 414 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Because we love his explosiveness, we. 415 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: Love the storytelling. He's always got something going on. You know, 416 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: a lot of people disliked his attempt to try and 417 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: say who was balked on a with our mister. 418 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Gentleman Jack Draper. 419 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: And yes, I mean I sort of might have even 420 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: mentioned something along the lines of, look, you know, it 421 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: wasn't his decision. You know, he felt like he saw something. 422 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: He didn't play a great point. The umpire made a 423 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: really poor decision because the umpire decided that it put 424 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: him off. But frankly, he hit two shots after that. 425 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 4: So if you were if you were put off, you 426 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: should have called it. You should have said I saw him. 427 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: You can look at the video. 428 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: He put me off, and then there would be no 429 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: question then right, and Jack would take it like a man, 430 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: He would be like a gentleman. He'd be like, yep, 431 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: I put my hands up by gestured. But still, you 432 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: know that happened a gazillion times in people's in matches, 433 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: like I have thrown up my hands. People have thrown 434 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 4: out their hands where their mindsman's there or electronic line 435 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: from And I don't think i've ever ever seen a 436 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: call being given to a player because the player made 437 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 4: a gesture that the balls out like so that was 438 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: just a it was worth asking, he asked, and the 439 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: umpire is the one that should have said no, I'm 440 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 4: not going to give you this point. 441 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: So that's it. So don't blame many. 442 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: But as he said, I've been screwed on many occasions 443 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: as he has, and we've witnessed a few of them. 444 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: And he did laugh at the press conference because he 445 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 4: said maybe I got one on my side. So some 446 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: people don't like him for it, but I'm like, give 447 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: me a bright like it was the umpire that have 448 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: your hate against the umpire, not against many. 449 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 5: And also just like you know, for the I had 450 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 5: a conversation with somebody last night, my friend David Gillis, 451 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: who's another journalist who's like, every time I hate a 452 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 5: tennis player, I think of you. 453 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, thank you. 454 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: He was like, mouddy, I hate that guy. I was like, 455 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: you're totally misplaced. The tennis needs him. He's not a villain. 456 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: He's a troll, like there's a very different. 457 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good way of putting it, and he's. 458 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 5: Just not he's not malevolent, but he is an agent 459 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 5: of chaos, and sometimes it crosses a line, like last 460 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: year when we saw him start a riot on Louis 461 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: Armstrong Court and nearly clawed back a match from a 462 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: down match point after a photographer accidentally gave him a 463 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: free pass. But like you know, you kind of put 464 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 5: up with the good and the bad. Now on the 465 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 5: men's side, I do feel like you alluded to this, 466 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: but I want to dig into it now that we're 467 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 5: transitioning from Indian Wells into Miami, which is this conversation 468 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 5: for most of the year has been how on earth 469 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: is Centner going to rate the ship and get back 470 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 5: into the same echelon as Carlos Algraz Because, as we've 471 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 5: discussed many times, as much fun and as it is 472 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: to have the Medvedevs the bubles, my. 473 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: Man Stefano suits a pass who's other than. 474 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: Playing some pretty good mixed doubles is permanently lost to 475 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 5: the seas. 476 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: You know, But really it's those two. 477 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: So now I think we need to just stop. I 478 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: think we just need to stop mentioning Sitzapass's name. I know, 479 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: just let's just like he needs to go. Let's replace 480 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 4: him with a learner ten or you know, fucking I'm 481 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: looking at the drawer like Mensik or mute. 482 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather talk about those guys than. 483 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: Any day, you know, Kobboli like these guys like Sitzi 484 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: pass Is. 485 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: It's gone. Although did you see. 486 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: Dominic Team put out on Instagram saying he was maybe 487 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: coming back And I'm thinking if anyone can help you 488 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: hit your backhand better, it might be him. 489 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 5: Say, actually, that's a great idea, But I don't think 490 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 5: Dominic Team, with his quiet Austrian reservedness, will be able 491 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: to overpower the main problem with Stephenos Titupaz's life, which 492 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: is his dad. Like that's clearly the problem. A coach 493 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 5: needs to like take a crowbar and remove that dude, 494 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 5: and then you know, I don't know what we're gonna 495 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 5: have left, but it's gonna be better than what we 496 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 5: have now. But getting back to Carlos and Yanik, where 497 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 5: are we now? Having witnessed Carlos go down in the 498 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: semis and Yanik, it's still no change or has this 499 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 5: tech has the momentum shifted. 500 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: No, I think that they're both about where they should be. 501 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: I think that Alcarez is clearly the best player in 502 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: the world on every surface. I think he lost to 503 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: a better player in METI. I think there were certainly 504 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: moments that he might want to take back in Innuells. 505 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: But one thing that we'll get tested is that our 506 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: friend mister Jiao Fonseca, if he wins his match against Marajan, 507 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: which I suspect he will, although it would be a 508 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: match that Fonseka would lose, but he's going to have 509 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: crazy support in Miami. I believe the match is almost 510 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 4: about to go on. He will play Alcaaz in the 511 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: second round. Now I don't know about you, Caitlin, but 512 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: I'm thinking that that might be one of the most entertaining, 513 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: loudest matches in I was going to say South America 514 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: feels like South America in Miami that I've ever heard. 515 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: I mean, it was just like listening to the World 516 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: Baseball Championships with Venezuela and the US. I felt like 517 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: there was more Venezuelans in the stands in Miami. So 518 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: that to me, I'm just praying no offense Majan, But 519 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: I'm praying that Fonseca wins because I really do believe 520 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: after the match that we saw that he's starting to 521 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: believe that he needs to be more professional, more involved 522 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: every point in Fonseka I'm talking about, and so that 523 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: will be a litmus test how Alcarez handles him a 524 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: little bit right in South In South Florida, I keeps 525 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: saying South America. 526 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: In Miami, I feel like South America, South America. 527 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think Alcarez is the favorite to win 528 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: this tournament because of his support and the fact that 529 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: he played so well in Miami. 530 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: It was one of the big tournaments that he won 531 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: early in his career. 532 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: But yes, I mean there's no doubt that Yannick looked happier, 533 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: he looked more relaxed. I think he did come into 534 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 4: Indian Wells with a little bit of a sort of 535 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: a bit of uncertainty and lack of confidence, if you 536 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: can believe that from you know, a guy that had 537 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: such a phenomenal year last year. But yeah, I think 538 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: he's back, and I think Alcarez didn't lose anything losing 539 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: to medi. 540 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: I think he would accept that move on. 541 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: He played golf probably for three days after that, had 542 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 4: a good time, and moved on. 543 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: He got his kangaroo tattoo, as we've all seen, and I. 544 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: Will suspect that we will probably see Yanick and our 545 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: friend Carlos in the final again. But as I said, 546 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 4: you know that a lot of storylines still to be told. 547 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 4: But it's so nice to see Medvedev get a win 548 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 4: over our carez or if it would have been seen, 549 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: because it would have said, oh, don't forget about me. 550 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm excited about the prospect of, you know, 551 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 4: the second round obviously with Alcras and Fonseca, before we 552 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: even get to further in the tournament. 553 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 5: I hope that I will be there because I would 554 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 5: like to experience I have never been to one of 555 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: those famous Miami night matches with the South American fans. 556 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: Oh wait, so you want night matches or you just 557 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: don't want the. 558 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: No, I don't double ticket. 559 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 5: I don't want them to I don't want them to 560 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: clear the stadium. 561 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want need the talk. 562 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 5: I think if you're there, you're there, you get, you 563 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: get a day of tennis, and you get well until you. 564 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: Die well speaking of getting there without the rain, the 565 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: situation that happened with the rain and the lines and 566 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: the cancelation of stadium courts and they didn't allow people 567 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: onto the facility. 568 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that, Caitlin. 569 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm actually kind of gonna side with the 570 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 5: tournament here. I think it's really tough, Like you know 571 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: that the matches are going to be very, very dicey. 572 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: They did, in fact end up being canceled almost entirely, 573 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: so like getting a whole bunch of people in and 574 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 5: out of a situation like that. Also, and I know 575 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 5: we usually shit on how temporary and gross the Miami 576 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 5: facility is. I've been there in a few years. I'm 577 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: excited to see if it's better. I've heard the first 578 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 5: sort of ring around the stadium floor. Ita has gotten nicer, 579 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: but more than anything else, it's just a lot of 580 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 5: it is bleachers and so that is slippery. It is 581 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: tough to ask, So I'm actually kind of a little 582 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: It was funny I was talking to one of our 583 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: photographers who's down there, who's shooting sort of daily tournament 584 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 5: coverage but also some stuff for the next print issue 585 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: of the magazine, and he was saying that, you know, 586 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 5: actually a lot of the players, even though the courts 587 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: were soaking wet and there were no fans, they wanted 588 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 5: to get out in the practice court. And he was 589 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: expressing this because not only are the courts a little slippery, 590 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: but also when the balls get wet, anybody who knows 591 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 5: anything about tennis knows those balls are going to become 592 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 5: ten pounds each and so you're hitting with a ten 593 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 5: pound water logged tennis ball on a slippery surface. 594 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: And I just couldn't believe that anybody would want to practice. 595 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: Surely it's better to go. 596 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: I mean, there are famously no indoor tennis courts in Miami, 597 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: which is hilarious, but like, wouldn't you just rather have 598 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 5: your player on a treadmill for an hour to get 599 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: some sweat than like go hurt? 600 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope. 601 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 4: Of course, have been into in that situation as a 602 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: player many many times, as a coach many many times, 603 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: and it's this weird thing that you think you're going 604 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: to forget how to play tennis and what you have 605 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 4: to recognize as a player or as a coach to 606 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: say everyone is dealing with the same thing. 607 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: We're all going to be in the same boat. Don't 608 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: freak out about it. 609 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: But it is very hard because we are very used 610 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: to practicing for hours in a day to feel good 611 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: about our tennis. So it's a tough situation. It was 612 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: a tough situation with the tournament, you know. Obviously, I 613 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: think that more along the lines of just expressing to 614 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: the people why. Everyone wants to know the why, okay, 615 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: And I think that that's one lesson that the tournament 616 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 4: probably can learn, is how to get the why out 617 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: to the spectators. And your description of it is, you know, 618 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: was really good. We had a really great story. This 619 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 4: young kid, Kwami, seventeen years of age, French, a man 620 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: one his first round. He's the youngest player to win 621 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 4: a match at A one thousand since Rafael Nadal did 622 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: it in two thousand and three. So it's been twenty 623 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 4: two years since a guy that young as one a 624 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: Master's one thousand match. 625 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: So we're going to be keeping our eye on him. 626 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 4: He has spoken very openly about he wants to be 627 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: number one in the world. I'm like, okay, you're putting 628 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: it out there. I don't mind it. I don't mind it. 629 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: I don't mind it at all, But still that's some 630 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: big shoes to fill. And you've got a lot of 631 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: people in front of you that are not that much 632 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: older than you, my friend, that are doing really good things. 633 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: But nice to see when his opponent was really sweet 634 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: walk down the other end gave him a hug, like 635 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: realize how important it was for him to do that. 636 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: On the other spectrum, we just saw Venus Williams lose 637 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: in a really tough two set match against fran Giones 638 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: seven five seventy five. You know, Venus is hitting the 639 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: ball well, she just made just a few too many 640 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: unforced eras in the big moments. 641 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Just couldn't get the job done. 642 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 4: I know how much it would have meant to her 643 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: to win a match in basically her hometown in Miami, and. 644 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: So a bummer she's pushing them. 645 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: She just can't get that win, that elusive win that 646 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: she got in Washington, DC last year. But you know, 647 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: it's great to see her out there. It was a 648 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: pretty decent crowd watching her. I say, give her wild 649 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: cards until she doesn't want to play anymore, and it's 650 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: up to her. If she doesn't win a match, it's fine. 651 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: She sells more tickets than you know, no offense to 652 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: her opponent, but the people are going to watch her, 653 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: not not Fran Jones, and I love Fran And she's 654 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: an incredible story. If you don't know anything about Franny Jones, 655 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 4: look it up because what she does on the tennis 656 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: court is unfathomable to be honest with her, you know, 657 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: with her with her hands and the you know, the 658 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: essentially a little bit of a disability that she has 659 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 4: in her hands and the way she plays tennis. 660 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. So it's a great story. 661 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: But you know, nice to Sev out there, and she 662 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: looked great, Like she looked so healthy. 663 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: That's why she wants to play. 664 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: She's got the best outfit, she's got a look, she's 665 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 5: got the crowd engagement. 666 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: So like, you know, for me, it's just like as long. 667 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 5: As she wants to play, you right, she'll if it 668 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 5: becomes so bad and so unwatchable that people don't show up, 669 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: somebody tells me, she'll know, and we'll certainly know. But 670 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: until it happens, like what are we doing, like let 671 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 5: her play, let her cook, let her go, yeah. 672 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Letter letter cook. Yeah. 673 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 4: So anyway, obviously a little bit of an auspicious start 674 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: for Miami, with the dealing with the weather, which you 675 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: often get down in Miami. They get the rain, Indian 676 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: Wells gets wind and all kinds of crazy stuff, bees 677 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: and other than that, looks like they're underway and they're 678 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 4: doing great. They've got a few matches to catch up on. 679 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 680 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: I don't know this back to back Indian Wells, Miami, 681 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: back to back one thousands like Cincinnati and Canada. 682 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I just, I just I don't know. 683 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: I just feel like they should be a priority onto 684 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 4: themselves and they shouldn't have to back up against two 685 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: really important tournaments. 686 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: I'll say it till I'm blue in the face. 687 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: I don't know why we keep doing this to players. 688 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 4: I don't know why we keep doing it to the fans. 689 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: Spread it out more, have Miami at different times, or 690 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 4: have it some I don't know. We've been talking about 691 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 4: this for so long I can't even talk about it anymore, 692 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 4: to be honest. But we'll see who wins these tournaments. 693 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: I was down in Miami last year, Caitlin. 694 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: I can tell you this. 695 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 4: Facilities are much better, and the players actually really quite 696 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 4: enjoy some of them. The restaurant's great. Everything's really good, 697 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: and they've tried really hard to make it better for 698 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: the players, and I know that the players appreciate it. 699 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 4: It's very different to Indian Wells, but there are positives 700 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: and negatives to both. 701 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, we're looking. 702 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 5: Forward to spend a lot of time talking about the schedule, 703 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 5: as we always do, but I think for me, the 704 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 5: main thing is I'm just trying to enjoy the fact 705 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 5: that there's so much tennis in our time zone, with 706 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: players playing really well, with a lot of great stories, 707 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 5: and so, you know, again, feel free to listen to 708 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 5: our back catalog if you want a lot of suggestions 709 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: about schedule changes. 710 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not gonna be the last time we. 711 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 5: Talked about it, but yeah, I'm just really like engaged 712 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 5: in how fun the early rounds are, especially now that 713 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: it's madness, because they have, you know, basically three days 714 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: of tennis to catch up on in like the next 715 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 5: few days. 716 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, well they'll figure it out. 717 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: They always do, hopefully the normal rain on normal misdays 718 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: or complete days at least, but we'll see. 719 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: But we're here for it. We're going to bring it 720 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: all to you and Caitlin, thanks for joining me. Have 721 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: fun down there. You have an event down there right 722 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: with Racket. 723 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: We're going to do a couple of events. 724 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 5: We're doing a big thing with Wilson, and then we 725 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: are going to have an issue launch party at the 726 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 5: new Proper hotel called the Shelbourn. We'll have some Latin. 727 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: House and let's give a shout out to let's give 728 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 4: a shout out to our old friend Kelly Wurtzler, because 729 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 4: that is her, that's her property, the new Michelle Bourne, 730 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: the new Proper down there in Miami. And if you 731 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: have never been to a Kelly Wurtzler hotel or had 732 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: the pleasure of staying one, you're missing out because nobody 733 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 4: does a hotel better in interior better than Kelly Wortzler. 734 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: So that's a shout out to our friend. And we're 735 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: not getting paid for that, and we're not making any 736 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: money from the Proper, but we'll take it. 737 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: We'll take it. 738 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 3: We'll take some free room, exactly, we'll take. 739 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: Some free rooms Kelly. 740 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: Okay, guys, thanks for joining us to day and we'll 741 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: see you with a wrap up next week of even 742 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 4: more tennis from Miami. 743 00:34:37,520 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: See Caitlin have a good trip. 744 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: Bick