Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
Speaker 1: the story of the week. So we're gonna take it
Speaker 1: back to nineteen ninety four, the best year of your life,
Speaker 1: the year I was born. Well, I was thinking about
Speaker 1: this when we were reading this story because I was like,
Speaker 1: because I remember when this was happening in the news
Speaker 1: and you were just a baby. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if you do you even know about this story? No,
Speaker 1: I actually hadn't heard about it before, but I was
Speaker 1: thinking of kind of jealous as a true crime fan, like,
Speaker 1: you had a pretty good couple years in the nineties
Speaker 1: because when you were pregnant with me, the whole OJ
Speaker 1: thing was going on, right, and now this was happening,
Speaker 1: and the Menendez Brothers was happening, and Scott Peterson was happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was definitely a lot going on in the news
Speaker 1: and when this one happened. This is Susan Smith, Yes,
Speaker 1: Susan Smith. So you never you never heard I've literally
Speaker 1: never heard of this case, and I you know, this
Speaker 1: of course has many layers to it. So as I
Speaker 1: continue to read about it, I'm just like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: this crime's crazy. Oh wow, this is crazy. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. So basically highlights is this twenty two
Speaker 1: year old woman named Susan Smith. She had told police
Speaker 1: that this guy had carjacked her and her two children
Speaker 1: were in the car. They were one of almost two
Speaker 1: when the other one was fourteen months old, so they
Speaker 1: were like really young kids. Toddler, Yeah, toddler's So for
Speaker 1: nine days, you know, she's like freaking out there searching
Speaker 1: all these neighborhoods, going door to door. Her and her
Speaker 1: husband are on the news pleading for these kids to
Speaker 1: be returned. After nine days, she finally admits no, she
Speaker 1: strapped them into her car and let the car go
Speaker 1: into the river, essentially drowning them to death. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: this was you know, she had these news conferences all
Speaker 1: the time. I'm her poor husband because he had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with it, right and it. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: her being on there crying. But I was only what
Speaker 1: fifteen years old or sixteen years old at the time,
Speaker 1: and I remember being like, this lady is full of shit,
Speaker 1: Like she she just didn't sound sincere. So I kind
Speaker 1: of felt like something was up. Every time I was
Speaker 1: watching these press conferences. Yeah, so I don't know what, Like,
Speaker 1: do you remember what made her finally admit it, Like
Speaker 1: did they catch her in the act? I don't know
Speaker 1: what made her admit it, but she said she was
Speaker 1: having an affair with a guy who was wealthy that
Speaker 1: didn't want children. Yeah, because when I was telling you
Speaker 1: the other day, I watched that documentary about that chick
Speaker 1: Cherry Peppini that kidnapped herself and she wouldn't admit it.
Speaker 1: And finally the FBI was like, we have all the
Speaker 1: information that you did it, so like say it because
Speaker 1: we know you did it. Yeah. I don't really remember
Speaker 1: exactly what happened, but like I said, she was just
Speaker 1: like not sincere, So I think that, And she said
Speaker 1: it was like a black dude and they and it
Speaker 1: was just terrible how they went into like a black
Speaker 1: neighborhood and were searching house to house and everything looking
Speaker 1: for somebody that didn't even exist. Yeah, like totally unnecessary
Speaker 1: on all fronts, right, and then these children lost their lives.
Speaker 1: So her lawyers during the trial, it seemed like they
Speaker 1: were trying to argue that she was having like postpartum
Speaker 1: psychosis or something, which made her do this, but it
Speaker 1: didn't really matter. And I feel like if that argument
Speaker 1: was in court today, it would hold up a lot more.
Speaker 1: But like in the nineties, nobody was really seeing that
Speaker 1: argument right. Also, and I don't know much about this,
Speaker 1: but her kid was a year and two months old,
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the interval is of postpartum psychosis,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's kind of late. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I don't, you know what I mean, Like you're kind
Speaker 1: of getting back to normal with your body at that time,
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what the time period is, but
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I definitely would hold more water now,
Speaker 1: but it's not like the kid was three months old,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It was, yeah, So
Speaker 1: I mean the jury wasn't buying it either. So she
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five, she was convicted to life with
Speaker 1: the possibility of parole. So now thirty years later, in November,
Speaker 1: she's eligible for parole. But of course that means she
Speaker 1: has to, you know, go to the parole board and
Speaker 1: try to pleay her case and everything. The ex husband,
Speaker 1: who was the father of the kids does not want
Speaker 1: her to get out of jail, obviously, but you know,
Speaker 1: she with this potential of getting out, she's pretty confident
Speaker 1: about it. So she's trying to set up how she's
Speaker 1: gonna make money, and she's trying to reel in some
Speaker 1: sugar daddies and have phone sex with people to raise
Speaker 1: money so she could do that when she's out of jail.
Speaker 1: The criminal justice system is just like everybody knows this
Speaker 1: that it's so fucked up, But think about this, like
Speaker 1: this lady killed both of her children strapped in a
Speaker 1: car seat and drowned to death. That must have been
Speaker 1: a very great death for them, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely torturous, terrible, right, she and then she's eligible to
Speaker 1: get out of jail. She's young, Yeah, she's fifty two fifty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so young, so she could get out of jail.
Speaker 1: But she wasn't young enough when it happened to not
Speaker 1: know that that was wrong. Well yeah, I mean not
Speaker 1: like she was thirteen with two kids or something and
Speaker 1: you would think, Okay, maybe she's just a teenager and whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm really surprised that she got life with the possibility
Speaker 1: of pearol. I'm really surprised how confident she is she's
Speaker 1: gonna get out. But obviously like she ain't right because
Speaker 1: of everything that went down, and like so for three
Speaker 1: years she's been having phone sex with these people that
Speaker 1: have been giving her money. One of these guys said
Speaker 1: he has like a bank account with over two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for her when she gets out. Well, this
Speaker 1: is what I wanted to say about the criminal justice system.
Speaker 1: So this lady's in jail for killing her children, Like,
Speaker 1: how is she even having access to these men? Where
Speaker 1: is she getting their their phone numbers? How she able
Speaker 1: to call them? She's calling them on our dime as taxpayers. Right,
Speaker 1: all of these phone calls have been public information through
Speaker 1: the prison that she's in. But like, how is she
Speaker 1: even meeting people? That's what I want to know. I
Speaker 1: would really like to do an external exam on like
Speaker 1: relationships with people in prison, because as we see, this
Speaker 1: is really common. I mean recently, Gypsy Rose Blanchard had
Speaker 1: got married in prison. One of the Menendez brothers has
Speaker 1: been married in prison. They get letters, Brian Coberger has fans,
Speaker 1: He gets letters, you know, like they get letters, they're
Speaker 1: able to call. And this article that wrote up about
Speaker 1: this woman's like a seemingly lucrative phone sex career for
Speaker 1: the past three years. You know, all prison phone calls
Speaker 1: are recorded, so they have recorded versions of all these
Speaker 1: phone calls she's having with these people, and it was disturbing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just weird. I just think, even if guys
Speaker 1: are messaging her in prison, how come we're allowing her
Speaker 1: to harry on relationships like that. It's just I don't
Speaker 1: understand it. I feel like when you're in jail, it
Speaker 1: should be like you're in jail, especially when you killed children,
Speaker 1: you just shouldn't have You shouldn't be allowed to like
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know, you shouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: make friends. Like I could see maybe being allowed to
Speaker 1: talk to your mom or your family or whatever, but
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't be able to be making new relationships
Speaker 1: and being on the phone with people all day. It's
Speaker 1: just I feel like you give up that right when
Speaker 1: you kill your two kids and go to jail. It's just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessary. I mean, there's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be an argument coming in about this that, like they're
Speaker 1: humans and they have human rights, so they should be
Speaker 1: I don't care, though, you give up your rights when
Speaker 1: you do something. Time two human lives, so therefore you
Speaker 1: should be stripped of some of your life and and
Speaker 1: being in jail is not necessarily enough. So my biggest
Speaker 1: argument is if she gets out, she's fifty two years old, Like,
Speaker 1: why isn't she considered a harm to society? Like what
Speaker 1: makes what makes you think she's not going to do
Speaker 1: something like this again? Well if that if she was
Speaker 1: trying to kill her kids to start a new life
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, she's she's not going to have
Speaker 1: kids again. Maybe yeah, but what if she gets with
Speaker 1: somebody that has kids and they're like getting in the way,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't I don't trust this at all.
Speaker 1: I don't either. I just I just think there should
Speaker 1: be a blanket rule like if you kill people in
Speaker 1: this not like self defense or or a mental health
Speaker 1: issue or whatever, but if you just kill people, you
Speaker 1: go to jail for the rest of your life. End
Speaker 1: a story Like why why do you get to have
Speaker 1: a new life after this? I just it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense to me. Yeah, I mean these two and
Speaker 1: I said children are dead, Like she really doesn't seem
Speaker 1: all that remorseful, if I'm being honest, Like nothing about
Speaker 1: her does seems like she feels that bad about doing it,
Speaker 1: so like, I don't know. I made a note in
Speaker 1: the calendar though, because I think her hearing is like
Speaker 1: November fourth, So I definitely want to follow up with this.
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if she got out, honestly, but
Speaker 1: I mean knows, everything's crazy right now. So what exactly?
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into celebrity news. So last week
Speaker 1: we had talked about that camper that had died at
Speaker 1: the you know, youth camp and Paris Hill and has
Speaker 1: been in Congress a lot explaining her experience with these camps,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to get these bills passed that ban
Speaker 1: them and make them illegal. Yeah, I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: just a youth camp. It's called a residential treatment facility
Speaker 1: for youth, which is just fancy words for saying that
Speaker 1: if the kid is acting up and being bad, you
Speaker 1: would send your kid to this camp. It's like something
Speaker 1: your parents have always threatened you with, like sending you
Speaker 1: to boarding school or something because you're bad. And she
Speaker 1: was a teenager and was partying a lot at fifteen, right,
Speaker 1: she was drinking and partying and staying out all night.
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of like Okay, Well, when you're a
Speaker 1: parent of a fifteen year old, like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: your problem, it's not the kid's problem. Yeah, So like
Speaker 1: what she to still talk to her parents? I don't know.
Speaker 1: So like her. She is a reality show called Paris
Speaker 1: and Love and it's on Peacock, So like, I don't
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are on top of that show.
Speaker 1: But it's actually one of my favorite reality shows ever
Speaker 1: because when you watch her interact with her family, it's
Speaker 1: not like this typical Bravo overproduced thing we're used to.
Speaker 1: It is so uncomfortable watching this family interact with each
Speaker 1: other because they're so emotionally detached from one another, and
Speaker 1: she is clearly trying to find answers like I wasn't
Speaker 1: that bad? Why did I go to these camps? Or
Speaker 1: like I was did you ever think I was acting out?
Speaker 1: Because you know, I was raised by Nanni's and you
Speaker 1: were barely in my life. And Kathy Hilton is just
Speaker 1: totally when she brings it up, she just totally glazes
Speaker 1: over it and blames her, which just like I know,
Speaker 1: so regeus, Like she not only went to this one,
Speaker 1: she went to four different camps. I think about like
Speaker 1: a normal fifteen year old that's acting out is always
Speaker 1: acting out for a reason. Yeah, so like and then
Speaker 1: like she's still taught. Like I understand that the parents
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about what's going on in these camps.
Speaker 1: I've heard interviews with with people that went to these camps,
Speaker 1: kids that are now adults that have went to these
Speaker 1: camps that said how manipulative they were towards their parents.
Speaker 1: Even they would take the kids and then they would
Speaker 1: call their parents and they would say, Hey, your kid
Speaker 1: might call you and say that we're locking you in
Speaker 1: a room and not letting you look out a window.
Speaker 1: So if they say that, just expect that that's going
Speaker 1: to happen. But that's not really what's happening. So then
Speaker 1: when the girl would call her dad and say that,
Speaker 1: the dad was like, yeah, they told me you were
Speaker 1: going to say this, and I'm not coming to pick here,
Speaker 1: or somebody's monitoring the call, so they like can't be
Speaker 1: honest about what's going on, because think about it. If
Speaker 1: the person at the camp is watching your phone call
Speaker 1: and you say, like they're hitting me, then there's going
Speaker 1: to be retaliation afterwards, or they're not letting you call
Speaker 1: your parents at all, or your parents think you're making
Speaker 1: it up to go home. Yeah, So she went to
Speaker 1: four different camps like this, and she was so abused there.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're fifteen years old, you're still a
Speaker 1: little you're a little kid still, even though you're a teenager,
Speaker 1: you're still child. And she was physically and sexually abused
Speaker 1: to the point where she didn't even want to go
Speaker 1: through a pregnancy and carry her own kid because she
Speaker 1: was so traumatized from it, which I kind of believe her,
Speaker 1: Like she was saying that they didn't let her look
Speaker 1: out a window for two years. No, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: What does that do to a person? This is also
Speaker 1: why I don't think this show is so produced, because
Speaker 1: like this is a really big part of her life,
Speaker 1: trying to get these this legislation passed. And whenever she
Speaker 1: talks to her family about it, they get so massively
Speaker 1: uncomfortable about it, and her mom's always like, you are
Speaker 1: out of control. I don't know what you want to do.
Speaker 1: First of all, the girl was raised in a hotel
Speaker 1: in New York City, Like nothing is normal about that.
Speaker 1: You're living in like a five star hotel. Your whole
Speaker 1: life you're raised by nanny's, you're in one of the
Speaker 1: wealthiest families in the country. Nothing was normal about her upbringing.
Speaker 1: Nobody's monitoring her behavior. What do you expect, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this is this is apparent issue. Yeah, so she's
Speaker 1: going in my she's going to clubs at fifteen obviously
Speaker 1: because nobody's watching her, and she's like acting out probably,
Speaker 1: so then she gets kidnapped in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Brought to these schools, The worst one, in her opinion,
Speaker 1: was this one in Provo, Utah, which I actually just
Speaker 1: went through. Did you drive through there on the trip
Speaker 1: and power? So the train went through Provo, And she's
Speaker 1: explaining in her documentary that this school is like in
Speaker 1: the middle of the rocky mountains, so like you can't
Speaker 1: leave even if you try to run away, you're going nowhere.
Speaker 1: It takes hours to drive there from anywhere else. So
Speaker 1: like if you leave, your risking dying in the wilderness
Speaker 1: because there's like nowhere to go. So think about that.
Speaker 1: The whole problem here is money, because let me tell you,
Speaker 1: if I was a little kid, and I was a
Speaker 1: little kid acting up right, my parents wouldn't have had
Speaker 1: the money to send me to a place like this first,
Speaker 1: and second, like I wouldn't have had money to even
Speaker 1: go to clubs or anything, because like when you don't
Speaker 1: give your kids money and they don't have a job,
Speaker 1: then they can't even do stuff right, Like what do
Speaker 1: you do when you have when your mom's giving you
Speaker 1: twenty dollars for lunch for the entire week, Like you
Speaker 1: can't go out and party and do things like that.
Speaker 1: So it's one hundred percent of parenting issue exactly. So
Speaker 1: she went to Congress last week and was saying how
Speaker 1: she was sexually abused there. She was force fed medication,
Speaker 1: she was ripped by her hair down hallway strip naked.
Speaker 1: You know, she had a really horrible experience and this
Speaker 1: all led to her like persona. So she said, you know,
Speaker 1: we know her as this girl that speaks in a
Speaker 1: really high voice and looks like a doll, and you know,
Speaker 1: people think it's really weird behavior. And when you hear
Speaker 1: her real voice, she actually has a pretty deep voice
Speaker 1: when she's talking naturally. And she has attributed that she
Speaker 1: put on this persona because she was in so much
Speaker 1: pain that she like basically had to force herself to
Speaker 1: live in this alternate reality. To like forget what had
Speaker 1: happened to her. Wait, so in the cause, I you
Speaker 1: know how I chronically go through my phone with the
Speaker 1: volume off. I did see that there were a couple
Speaker 1: stories that said that people were shocked by her voice.
Speaker 1: Was she talking like in her regular voice in the hearing, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hearing. Yeah, I think she
Speaker 1: does at the hearing. But like when you watch her show,
Speaker 1: when she's talking to her husband, she's talking in like
Speaker 1: her normal voice and to her sister and stuff. But
Speaker 1: when she's like uncomfortable or doing an interview, yeah, like that,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like this trauma response. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: And before she came public with all this a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, psychologists were coming out saying they thought
Speaker 1: that something might have happened to her because it was
Speaker 1: very unusual that she acted this way. So I'm interested
Speaker 1: that people were kind of like on it but didn't
Speaker 1: really know exactly what happened. Yeah, and she's she's only
Speaker 1: forty three, so she's not that old that things were
Speaker 1: different back then. You know that it just it wasn't no, So, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've been like really keeping an eye
Speaker 1: on this because their whole family dynamic is so beyond
Speaker 1: fascinating to me, especially Kathy Hilton. And apparently this book
Speaker 1: came out a while ago called House of Hilton that
Speaker 1: like exposed all the family's like inner deepest secrets, and
Speaker 1: they worked really hard to get that bookshelve so like
Speaker 1: it's not that easy to find. I think people have
Speaker 1: it on eBay, but it's like hundreds of dollars and
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get my hands on them.
Speaker 1: Very interested in it. Yeah, I was thinking that's something
Speaker 1: that's like right up your alley. Yeah. But basically, she's
Speaker 1: trying to pass this thing called Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act,
Speaker 1: So she's working really hard, like she is really taking
Speaker 1: her experience and trying to make a difference, which I
Speaker 1: can appreciate in the general celebrity culture, like they'll talk
Speaker 1: about it but not really pursue any further action. She
Speaker 1: is actively going to DC working with people to try
Speaker 1: to get these bills passed. So you have to respect
Speaker 1: that on some level. Oh I I do. I think
Speaker 1: I think she's awesome for doing this because I wasn't
Speaker 1: even really hip to it. But when we were talking
Speaker 1: about this story weeks ago, I remember when with the
Speaker 1: kid in this camp, my first thought is like, this
Speaker 1: is this is child abuse? Why is this not considered
Speaker 1: anything else? Exactly. It's just so I'm glad because the
Speaker 1: thing is she could use her star power and people
Speaker 1: will actually listen to her. If this was just a
Speaker 1: regular person, they wouldn't sitting in front of hundreds of
Speaker 1: members of Congress and stuff being able to talk about this.
Speaker 1: So it's great, exactly. And I even saw with that
Speaker 1: Netflix documentary that came out about another one of these
Speaker 1: school systems. They did a hearing about that, and she like,
Speaker 1: she shows up if they ask her to be in
Speaker 1: congressional hearings and everything, She's there, like she's not messing
Speaker 1: around with it. So it's cool. All right, Let's get
Speaker 1: on to the next door. This is like Kardashian level
Speaker 1: obnoxious to me. We talk about Tory spelling. If we
Speaker 1: talk about the celebrities that we always talk about who
Speaker 1: are fucking annoying, it's definitely Kardashians. And then the step
Speaker 1: below that is Tory spelling always she she actually had
Speaker 1: another annoying article about something too that I completely forgot.
Speaker 1: I forget what it is right now, but there was
Speaker 1: another article that I looked at and was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So she has her own podcast, I guess,
Speaker 1: and she's talking about all this stuff. That's why. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she has kids with I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: like officially divorced, but I'm just I'll just say her
Speaker 1: ex right, like they're broken up, her and her husband.
Speaker 1: So they have five kids. They range from seventeen years
Speaker 1: old to seven years old. So she was on her
Speaker 1: podcast last week talking about how she has two placentas
Speaker 1: in her freezer, no idea which kids they're from, and
Speaker 1: then she has another placenta of her youngest kid in
Speaker 1: her best friend freezer. So her best friend has at
Speaker 1: least the placenta of at least a seven year old,
Speaker 1: like a seven year old placenta, and then the other
Speaker 1: two placentas are over a decade old. She's not sure
Speaker 1: which two kids they're from. And it's great because she
Speaker 1: apparently her friend has like politely been like, hey, can
Speaker 1: you pick up this placenta. It's in my freezer and
Speaker 1: it's disgusting, and she's like, oh, I'll come get it eventually,
Speaker 1: but she never has gotten it. And she keeps saying
Speaker 1: like they say it's good luck to eat a placenta,
Speaker 1: and it's healthy for you and this and that. I
Speaker 1: love when people say they say, well, like who's who
Speaker 1: says that? Who says your your Hollywood friends or whatever.
Speaker 1: So she hasn't gotten rid of it, and she but
Speaker 1: she did say that she ate one of her kids placentas, right,
Speaker 1: kind of calling bullshit on this because she said, quote,
Speaker 1: Dean's an amazing chef, Dean with her ex husband. So
Speaker 1: I mean it was like a little truffle oil, little
Speaker 1: salt and pepper. He cooked it and it was actually
Speaker 1: really good. Like I just I just don't believe this. No,
Speaker 1: people do know. I know people eat it. I don't
Speaker 1: believe she ate it. I just called bullshit on it.
Speaker 1: And is it also not so Hollywood to like open
Speaker 1: your freezer and somebody be like what is that and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's Torri's placenta? Yeah, exactly. No, I
Speaker 1: believe she did it. She's a total She's a total flake.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I'm way outspoken about this
Speaker 1: whole eating the placenta thing. I know that all these
Speaker 1: people say that there's health benefits, like it helps your
Speaker 1: milk supply and it helps with postpartum depression. And I
Speaker 1: just think it's total bullshit. It's cannibalism. And we're not cats,
Speaker 1: we're human beings. We're not supposed to eat our placenta,
Speaker 1: us to put it in a jar like I did. Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people on that. Hold on here it
Speaker 1: is guys. Check out the YouTube because this is a
Speaker 1: crazy person. This is this is Lucia's plasa. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to be like a normal person and just put
Speaker 1: it in a jar. Why would you eat it? Weird
Speaker 1: screen shotting this in me? This is This has to
Speaker 1: be the Instagram post for this episode today. Definitely go
Speaker 1: to the YouTube and see this because you don't believe
Speaker 1: how this lady just casually pulls this giant jar of
Speaker 1: this placentis. I have another one to I actually tell
Speaker 1: the story of when we were moving and one of
Speaker 1: the jars opened in the car on my lap and
Speaker 1: for Melo, the splashing on my leg, it's not it
Speaker 1: was alcohol. It wasn't for meal, the hyde, for my god,
Speaker 1: It's just it was just regular old alcohol. It didn't
Speaker 1: hurt you at all. Just relax. You were a freak.
Speaker 1: No I'm not. No, she is a freak. She eats
Speaker 1: it with truffle oil. So I just put it in
Speaker 1: a jar like it's it's here. I'm not doing anything
Speaker 1: weird with it. It's just sitting here in a jar.
Speaker 1: Those people today are like sending it to some place
Speaker 1: and they're getting them converted into capsules and then taking
Speaker 1: the capsules. But didn't we talk about Courtney Kardashian did this.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just so dumb. It's just the
Speaker 1: dumbest thing ever, So I don't under if you if you,
Speaker 1: I feel like it, I actually want to know if
Speaker 1: there's real scientific studies on this or it's just like
Speaker 1: you think you don't have postpartum depression and a better
Speaker 1: milk supply because you took these pills. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's all well, And how long does it take to
Speaker 1: get the pills? Like you have the baby, right, you
Speaker 1: have to send the thing in the mail, get the pills.
Speaker 1: They have to freeze dry it, put them in pills,
Speaker 1: send them back. I feel like that would take a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Like it's not even help. How does
Speaker 1: one mail a placenta? Like, how would you even go
Speaker 1: about that? I don't know, because sometimes it's even a
Speaker 1: pain in the ass to get it from the hospital
Speaker 1: we would have at the couple hospitals that I worked at,
Speaker 1: which is hence why I have my placentas, because they're easy.
Speaker 1: As long as you say it's a religious exemption, they
Speaker 1: can't do anything about you taking it. But they do.
Speaker 1: Really they're not happy about it because it puts liability
Speaker 1: on the hospital because people like let's say Tory spelling
Speaker 1: for example, not saying this with Tory spelling, just saying
Speaker 1: in general, because other people do this too. Let's say
Speaker 1: that a woman has some kind of a viral infection
Speaker 1: like hepatitis C, for example, and then she brings it
Speaker 1: home and her husband or her boyfriend or her friend
Speaker 1: or whoever cooks it and eats it, and it's not
Speaker 1: cooked all the way, and now you're exposing people to
Speaker 1: viral infections, any kind of bacteria like it. It scares
Speaker 1: hospitals because they don't want people to be eating human tissue.
Speaker 1: It's cannibalism, okay, no matter how you slice it, no
Speaker 1: matter what you say, it's cannibalism. All right, onto the
Speaker 1: next all right, freak accidents. I actually have a similar
Speaker 1: story to this. I don't even know if you know this.
Speaker 1: So a fifty five year old man got stung in
Speaker 1: the right eye by a bee, which, if that doesn't
Speaker 1: sound horrible in itself, just wait, it gets so much worse.
Speaker 1: So he goes to the emergency room, you know, gets
Speaker 1: all the work up. They think they removed the singer
Speaker 1: and that everything would be fine. So tell everybody what
Speaker 1: happens next. So this is like a really good lesson
Speaker 1: for anybody that ever has this happened to them. Not
Speaker 1: that it's going to happen to probably anybody that's listening
Speaker 1: right now, hopefully, but really, anytime something happens to your eye,
Speaker 1: you should always try to go to an ophthalmologist to
Speaker 1: get that taken care of if possible. We are blessed
Speaker 1: that we live right near Will's Eye Hospital in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times people don't have access to
Speaker 1: an ophthalmologist, so they have to go to the emergency room.
Speaker 1: So the guy goes to the emergency room and the
Speaker 1: stinger is still in his eyeball and they pull it out.
Speaker 1: He goes home, and he's having pain and he's starting
Speaker 1: to like lose his vision. Over the next two days,
Speaker 1: he finally goes to actually to Will's Eye Hospital in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and they put this special die inside of his eye
Speaker 1: called fluoresceine. And what it does is it lets the
Speaker 1: ophthalmologists know that the eye tissue is damaged. It turns
Speaker 1: it a certain color, like a yellowish green color. And
Speaker 1: sure enough, when they were looking at it, a piece
Speaker 1: of the broken singer was still in the eyeball and
Speaker 1: that's what was causing the problems. And the reason that
Speaker 1: you should go to an ophthalmologist is because they know
Speaker 1: that if you get stung by a bee or I'll
Speaker 1: swell up and you have to do like special procedures
Speaker 1: to pull it out and use special tools under special
Speaker 1: microscopes to be able to handle this correctly and not
Speaker 1: have something like this happen because that you don't want
Speaker 1: to mess with your vision like that. It's it's really scary.
Speaker 1: And think about this guy had a piece of it
Speaker 1: in his eye for two days. So when I was
Speaker 1: I want to say Lillian's age, mo, mom took me
Speaker 1: to the lake and we were at Antina's lake house
Speaker 1: and she had like rocks in the driveway and they
Speaker 1: were like, go get your bathing suit out of the trunk.
Speaker 1: So I'm walking with my eyes closed for some reason
Speaker 1: on the rocks, like that was gonna make it hurt
Speaker 1: less to walk on the rocks without shoes. And I
Speaker 1: literally hit a beehive under the porch and I got
Speaker 1: stung in the eye and in the arm, and I
Speaker 1: will never forget that because it was seriously the worst
Speaker 1: pain ever and I was crying so bad. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: but it didn't sting you in your eyeball, not my eyeball,
Speaker 1: but all my eyelid, and that was like horrible in itself.
Speaker 1: I can't and that though eyelid sounds terrible, like I
Speaker 1: don't even want to wrap my brain, my brain around
Speaker 1: the ball getting set. That's what I'm saying. Like my
Speaker 1: eyelid was one of the most painful I was, so
Speaker 1: I was such a little kid. This was like over
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and it's like a memory that is
Speaker 1: so vivid that I cannot get rid of it. And
Speaker 1: I haven't been stung by a bee since, but it
Speaker 1: was such a horrific situation and I can't imagine it
Speaker 1: going directly into my eyeball and then not even like
Speaker 1: you go to the hospital and think it's taken care
Speaker 1: of oh no, it's like really deep in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when you when this guy had this piece of
Speaker 1: the barb taken or the stinger, I guess they call
Speaker 1: it out. It looks like a barb under a microscope.
Speaker 1: It is. It looks like a branch with a thorn
Speaker 1: coming out of it. It's it's just it looks so
Speaker 1: painful to think about that piercing your delicate eyeball. It
Speaker 1: looks absolutely horrible. And I don't know. On this article too,
Speaker 1: they had a video of like how a bee sting works,
Speaker 1: like a like an animation of it, and it was
Speaker 1: making me want to throw up. It was so horrible
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, I actually I posted I made a
Speaker 1: post in the gross room called be aware get it
Speaker 1: like be wow, and I put I put the photos
Speaker 1: from this case in there because it's just really it's
Speaker 1: funny that you could look at a foreign body that's
Speaker 1: this a sliver of a hair, It's just this small
Speaker 1: thing and just think that, Oh my god, that thing
Speaker 1: is terrifying. Yeah, it's not like a giant knife going
Speaker 1: into your eye. It's just like this little microscopic piece
Speaker 1: of something. But yeah, yeah, I don't like eye stuff
Speaker 1: at all, so gross. No. All right, So this next one,
Speaker 1: we had really horrible storms over the weekend. I guess
Speaker 1: they were just going all over the Northeast because I
Speaker 1: actually saw, like where the cabin is, they were having
Speaker 1: tornado warnings, which is really unusual for up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know, it always rains really bad where
Speaker 1: I live compared to your neighborhood, which I don't understand.
Speaker 1: But every time it's raining here, I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just a normal summer day. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's because you live a little bit closer to the
Speaker 1: Delaware River. So yeah, it's just just getting that. I
Speaker 1: must just pick up the water. But in Maryland, a
Speaker 1: tree had fallen during one of these horrible storms. Maryland's
Speaker 1: not that far from where we live, only about an
Speaker 1: hour and a half. But a tree had fallen down
Speaker 1: on the live power line and landed on a metal fence.
Speaker 1: So let's think about new fear unlocked thisle this metal
Speaker 1: fence gets electrified because the live power line had fallen
Speaker 1: on it, which is something I would never think of.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would think about that. I
Speaker 1: do think that if I see any wire anywhere I
Speaker 1: walk on the complete opposite side of the street because
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's live. I don't anything even
Speaker 1: if it's a cable cord coming because all of our wires,
Speaker 1: at least where we live, are all above us, so
Speaker 1: they come down during storms. Sometimes you just see one
Speaker 1: from time to time. And there was one that was
Speaker 1: laying down on the street for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: across the street from the kids school. I don't even
Speaker 1: know why. I know it's probably nothing, like you assume, oh,
Speaker 1: this must be nothing, because it's been sitting here for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But like the kids would walk
Speaker 1: to the car and I'd be like, go away from that,
Speaker 1: Go one hundred percent, like get away from that. I
Speaker 1: just freak out because I'm because the story is like this,
Speaker 1: you just think, oh, with that thing is live, like
Speaker 1: it'll just hurt us, And I don't know. So power
Speaker 1: line falls on this fence, which is like a metal
Speaker 1: fence that goes behind several different properties. So then this
Speaker 1: dog is just like outside doing its business and comes
Speaker 1: close to the fence and gets electrocuted. The owner sees
Speaker 1: this all go down and runs out to help the
Speaker 1: dog and then also gets electrocuted. They're both did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's nuts, but it is a good reminder because
Speaker 1: when it starts thundering, especially they say that when I
Speaker 1: was playing softball as a kid, or when when I
Speaker 1: would go to the public pool or something like, as
Speaker 1: soon as it thunders, you have to get out and
Speaker 1: go indoors. And there's really the same could be said
Speaker 1: for pets. There's no reason that there should even be
Speaker 1: a dog outside during a thunderstorm that has lightning like this,
Speaker 1: so it's easily avoidable situation. That's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: because of lightning strikes. Obviously it could be a direction.
Speaker 1: In this case, it was an indirect strike, but still
Speaker 1: cause the death of the guy. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: sad for the dog, but like a human life was
Speaker 1: lost too over this. No, totally, it's just really sad.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know. I mean, this is always why
Speaker 1: these stories are under freak accidents. Like I would never
Speaker 1: be like, oh, there's a down power line five houses down,
Speaker 1: let me not go near the fend, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even think about it. So it's just yeah, if you
Speaker 1: see a down power line, don't go anywhere near it
Speaker 1: or anywhere unless obviously, like if your child is there,
Speaker 1: then you you do. But we hear this all the time,
Speaker 1: and especially when it's raining out too. The water conducts
Speaker 1: the electricity too, so it's just dangerous. All right. Next,
Speaker 1: let's get into baseball stadiums, because this is something I'm
Speaker 1: surprised this is not happening more frequently. So we own
Speaker 1: to the baseball stadium like what like every week or
Speaker 1: every two weeks, right, and it's always you know, the
Speaker 1: Phillies are killing it right now, which like I'm proud
Speaker 1: to gloat about that. But because of that, most of
Speaker 1: the games have been sold out, which is like over
Speaker 1: forty thousand people. So with that, all these people are
Speaker 1: always packing on the staircases and the escalators. So at
Speaker 1: a Brewer's game last week, there was like all these
Speaker 1: people after the game trying to go home and leave
Speaker 1: on the escalators and they are jamming as many people
Speaker 1: as possible on them, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this escalator has a malfunction and starts like speeding up
Speaker 1: and causing all these people to like fall down on
Speaker 1: top of each other, fall off the escalator, and eleven
Speaker 1: people got injured. Yeah, it's it's really scary because I
Speaker 1: didn't even know escalators could go faster than they go.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess anything could happen, but what would
Speaker 1: be the point for that function to even exist. Well,
Speaker 1: it might not, it might not be like a function.
Speaker 1: So they're trying to figure out exactly went wrong. Like
Speaker 1: everybody seems pretty stumped by this, So I don't think
Speaker 1: this is a normal I've heard. Yeah, I've never heard
Speaker 1: of that before. When I first read the article, I
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just like, escalator went over
Speaker 1: my head and I just assumed all those people getting
Speaker 1: hurt at once was the elevator like dropping or something,
Speaker 1: because that makes more sense. There's elevator injury, you know, injuries,
Speaker 1: and the elevators break all the time. But we just
Speaker 1: were there last week and to go unless you want
Speaker 1: to walk up the ramp, which we do sometimes unless
Speaker 1: it's like one hundred degrees out and you know, we
Speaker 1: just don't feel like doing it. We're trying to get
Speaker 1: to our seat faster. There's always a line of hundreds
Speaker 1: of people to get onto the escalator, and there is
Speaker 1: a guy that's standing there that counts how many people
Speaker 1: are going up and then stops it. But still so
Speaker 1: there has to be some kind of weight restriction. Sty'll
Speaker 1: think about it though, Like there's probably at a given
Speaker 1: time on they're really big escalators, fifty plus people on
Speaker 1: them at one time. Oh yeah, but I mean they
Speaker 1: they clearly could accommodate that. It happens all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, we never heard of anything like that happening.
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you I was thinking that, like, next
Speaker 1: time we go to the Phillies game is going to
Speaker 1: be like some kind of new the MLB is going
Speaker 1: to put like some kind of restrictions out about how
Speaker 1: many people can go on because of that. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: because that could have been like serious because at least
Speaker 1: the elevator, the escalator that we go on goes from
Speaker 1: the first to the second tier. But it's a large distance.
Speaker 1: It's not like the one that you would see in
Speaker 1: the mall. It's double the size of the one at
Speaker 1: the mall, you know. And I think they were able
Speaker 1: to prevent more injuries because it seemed like the person
Speaker 1: like manning it at the bottom hit the emergency stop
Speaker 1: button as soon as it started happening. Well, we have guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Santa Claus. Yeah, we say every time that
Speaker 1: we go. There's there's a guy that works at our
Speaker 1: escalator that looks exactly like Santa Claus and he always
Speaker 1: wears red for Phillies, so and he's been there for years.
Speaker 1: But like that's why they're there, probably in case something
Speaker 1: happens like that that they're able to do that. But
Speaker 1: just being up that high thinking about falling off of
Speaker 1: the side of it or something or down it is
Speaker 1: scarce the shit out of me. Yeah, one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: because what are you gonna do if it starts moving
Speaker 1: really fast and you're like trampling other people. It's scary. Yes, well, really,
Speaker 1: the elevator has been closed until investigation has been do.
Speaker 1: Escalator escalator escalator, escalator has been closed until they figure
Speaker 1: out what happened because obviously they don't want to risk
Speaker 1: it again. So you might be slightly, but like what
Speaker 1: are they gonna do to get all those people upstairs?
Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna walk up the door, so that one's
Speaker 1: just gonna have to be out of commission. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: is that it's there only one at ours or there's
Speaker 1: one other on the other side. I think there has
Speaker 1: to be because of like emergency exits. And stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're supposed to use escalators during an emergency. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to say, there can't just be
Speaker 1: like one that goes up and down. There has to
Speaker 1: be multiple sets of stairs and everything, so people are
Speaker 1: either gonna have to walk. That's what sucks. It was
Speaker 1: like on the highest level of the ballpark two so
Speaker 1: people that have seats up there are gonna have to
Speaker 1: walk up all those steps. Yeah, no thanks, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: So next a man had gone to the hospital saying
Speaker 1: his nose was bleeding for a couple of days and
Speaker 1: he felt movement up there. Don't you think if your
Speaker 1: nose is bleeding for like a couple of hours, you
Speaker 1: would go No, I don't think so. I think people
Speaker 1: some people like Lucia has nosebleeds all the time, and yeah,
Speaker 1: but they Gabe over reacts to them. We don't. Actually,
Speaker 1: we should tell this story that one time. So we
Speaker 1: were we were in Washington, DC on like a little
Speaker 1: mini trip, and we were sitting around watching a movie.
Speaker 1: We were watching some lame movie. Oh, we were watching
Speaker 1: National Treasure, remember us. And then Lucia had went in
Speaker 1: the other room and she was like, what she made
Speaker 1: this noise of like why nose is bleeding, And she
Speaker 1: came out of the room and she had a towel
Speaker 1: under her nose and it was I mean it was
Speaker 1: a lot of blood and pushes off the couch like
Speaker 1: the mom and meet the parents diving into the pool.
Speaker 1: Yes we should. We were like you know that part
Speaker 1: and meet the parents when the mom jumps in the
Speaker 1: pool and he was like he's like no, he like
Speaker 1: he didn't remember. Then we found a video of it.
Speaker 1: We kept sending it to him. We were like, that's
Speaker 1: what it was so ridiculous. We're like, relaxed, dude, She's
Speaker 1: just having a nosebleed, like she cut her hand off
Speaker 1: or something like her noses baking. Chill out. So anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: so she her not She'll come down to be me
Speaker 1: every once in a while and just say like, I'm
Speaker 1: having a nosebleed. And I think there's some people that
Speaker 1: just have them a lot that they kind of don't
Speaker 1: think anything of it. I mean, last for hours. No
Speaker 1: they don't, but listen, like I'm not. There's more parts
Speaker 1: to this story that I wouldn't do if I was
Speaker 1: this guy either. So people do what they're going to do, like,
Speaker 1: all right, what are you gonna tell everyone what was
Speaker 1: causing it? All right? So this guy had apparently been
Speaker 1: taking a bath or a shower I guess, in a waterfall,
Speaker 1: and he he went in to the hospital and they
Speaker 1: went up inside his nose, and of course they found
Speaker 1: a leech up there. Yeah, typical finding when you just
Speaker 1: like looking into a patient. But well, I think when
Speaker 1: people go into natural water to especially to take a bath.
Speaker 1: I mean people do it, especially, even people do it
Speaker 1: if they're hiking or anything like that. You get leeches
Speaker 1: on the outside of your body. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: normal thing that could happen, but for it to get
Speaker 1: inside of your body is not commonly seen in medicine.
Speaker 1: And leeches they can kill you. Actually, aren't they pretty big?
Speaker 1: They're pretty They can get big when they're engorged with blood.
Speaker 1: But they not only if you add a lot of
Speaker 1: them on you, they could make you anemic. But on
Speaker 1: top of that, they have saliva that like numbs the
Speaker 1: area of where they're sucking, and that could cause issues
Speaker 1: with the way that your blood clots and everything. And
Speaker 1: the grossest part really is that they carry disease like
Speaker 1: they they can have have HIV and hepatitis B in
Speaker 1: their bodies for like five months, don't Can you go
Speaker 1: to some nail salons and get some like leech treatment
Speaker 1: on your feet? Yeah, I mean they do, they do
Speaker 1: leech therapy. I actually have a bunch of leech stuff
Speaker 1: coming up in the gross room. That's that I have
Speaker 1: set aside in booked marks of really good pictures and stories.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they do leech therapy. They do do it sometimes,
Speaker 1: like if you have gangerine, they do it to clean
Speaker 1: out the wound. They do it in hospitals under you know, supervision,
Speaker 1: and they work well at cleaning out good wounds and
Speaker 1: really like pulling blood to the to the source to
Speaker 1: help it heal, Like especially when you have gangreene and
Speaker 1: you have a hard time with oxygen getting to a
Speaker 1: part of your body, it like pulls oxygenated blood to
Speaker 1: the source to help it heal. But they're just they're
Speaker 1: just it grosses me out, you know, to think that
Speaker 1: the thing was up inside his nose because it could
Speaker 1: have went into his brain, Like, I mean, your nose
Speaker 1: is like a direct access to your brain. Like, dude,
Speaker 1: you feel that thing going up there, like he'd well,
Speaker 1: he didn't. He might not have felt it going up there,
Speaker 1: but he felt it moving around, uh, which which just
Speaker 1: freaks me out. But listen, like, if this guy was
Speaker 1: taken a bath in in a waterfall, like, chances are
Speaker 1: he wasn't near any kind of like civilized medicine, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, maybe I don't know, he
Speaker 1: could have been in a super low socioeconomic area that
Speaker 1: the nearest hospital was twelve hours away. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: it seems like the doctors were able to successfully get
Speaker 1: it out, So yeah, and he's fine, He's okay. This
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Speaker 1: and one of the stories is so outrageous. I can't
Speaker 1: even explain it to you. You just think, like, how
Speaker 1: the hell does this shit happen to humans? And I
Speaker 1: always have had questions my entire life about this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, Like you hear stories all the time, and
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Speaker 1: a really interesting case. It's like frustrating reading some of
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Speaker 1: to spoil the end of it, but it was definitely
Speaker 1: a frustrating one to write up for me. And we
Speaker 1: just have all these other cases. With Fourth of July
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Speaker 1: all right, So we talk a lot about hot car
Speaker 1: deaths on here, but this is like one of the
Speaker 1: most unusual ones I've ever heard, right, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it is too. So this lady brought her eight year
Speaker 1: old to work with her, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: she wasn't allowed to bring the kid in or she
Speaker 1: didn't want to bring the kid in, but she thought
Speaker 1: it was a good idea to leave this eight year
Speaker 1: old alone in the car, which it's never okay to
Speaker 1: leave a child alone in the car in general. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on with that, and
Speaker 1: then on top of it, it's like a ninety four
Speaker 1: degree day. But she decides, you know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: turn the air conditioning on so this won't be a problem,
Speaker 1: and the kid will text me every couple minutes or
Speaker 1: so and I'll check in. That's I'll check in. So
Speaker 1: after this, lady doesn't hear from the kid for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half, which is a really long time
Speaker 1: to not hear from the kid that's in the parking lot.
Speaker 1: She goes out and then sees the kid's unresponsive and
Speaker 1: foaming at the mouth, breaks through the car with the hammer,
Speaker 1: realizes the air conditioning's not on anymore, and starts freaking
Speaker 1: out out and drives to the hospital. She doesn't get
Speaker 1: all the way to the hospital before she pulls over.
Speaker 1: It calls nine one one, They come and see the kid,
Speaker 1: and then she's finally brought to the hospital and then
Speaker 1: she's pronounced it. This is like really an upsetting story. Actually,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's more upsetting than the typical grandfather
Speaker 1: leaving the kid in the car, because I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot that goes on with this story, especially because
Speaker 1: I was a single mom. I think this lady's probably
Speaker 1: a single mom, and it's the summer, her kid's not
Speaker 1: in school, she doesn't Camp is expensive, so a lot
Speaker 1: of people can't afford to send their kid to camp,
Speaker 1: and she's got this kid, and she might still have
Speaker 1: to go to work to pay for the rent and
Speaker 1: to pay for food, and it's It doesn't say where
Speaker 1: she was working, but if she worked. She liked that Amazon. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you can't have a child in Amazon? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: it was like an Amazon warehouse facility. Yeah, so she
Speaker 1: couldn't bring the kid to work with her, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: think about this, how many times did I bring you
Speaker 1: to work with me every day in the summer because
Speaker 1: I didn't have anyone to watch you? Like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what happens. I mean I would I would have
Speaker 1: found something else, but I didn't have a couple thousand
Speaker 1: dollars laying around to pay for camp or to pay
Speaker 1: for somebody to babysit you every day when you weren't
Speaker 1: in school. So she brings the kid to work, leaves
Speaker 1: the kid in the car, probably with their iPad or
Speaker 1: a phone or something, so they were entertained all day,
Speaker 1: and left the air conditioning on, thinking that the kid
Speaker 1: would be safe. It's it's so crazy because last week
Speaker 1: I was just like, does this ever happen to women?
Speaker 1: And then sure enough this news story popped up, and
Speaker 1: I thought, let me read about this because there has
Speaker 1: to be more to the story, because usually women don't
Speaker 1: forget their kid in the car, and she didn't. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just really weird because she like knowingly set up
Speaker 1: the situation and then she was telling the police that
Speaker 1: she thinks the kid turned the air can off because
Speaker 1: she was too cold. But then I started thinking about
Speaker 1: how my car automatically turns off after an hour. And
Speaker 1: let's say, for example, that this was you and your
Speaker 1: car right and your car turned off after an hour
Speaker 1: like this kid's Lucia's age with Luccia know how to
Speaker 1: restart a vehicle to turn it back. But it could
Speaker 1: have been that. No, but at the same time too,
Speaker 1: it could have ran out of gas. Yeah, like I mean, like,
Speaker 1: how how long was the kid? I don't think I
Speaker 1: ran out of gas because the mom like was driving
Speaker 1: around after trying to run into the hospital. But oh okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean there's there's all different things that
Speaker 1: could happen. But I don't think that there's anything like
Speaker 1: shady about this story that the mom at all. I
Speaker 1: just think that it was a desperation thing and she
Speaker 1: just didn't she just didn't think about it. But you
Speaker 1: just have to keep in mind that there are people
Speaker 1: that don't have what we have as far as like
Speaker 1: there's always a friend that could do this or a
Speaker 1: family member, and it's just it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: really shitty situation that a lot of people go through,
Speaker 1: especially when they use school not only for education for
Speaker 1: their kids, but like as a babysitter while they go
Speaker 1: to work. But go back to what you said earlier too,
Speaker 1: about when you were raising me, So like what if
Speaker 1: you brought like I remember going to college classes and
Speaker 1: stuff with you, and like going to work with you,
Speaker 1: Like what would have happened if you're if your employer
Speaker 1: was like, she can't be here, you have to leave,
Speaker 1: and we're not paying you for the day. I would
Speaker 1: have borrowed money off of somebody and figured out to
Speaker 1: send you to camp or something. I don't know, no,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying like that's not just one for everybody.
Speaker 1: So like this seems like a pure act of desperation,
Speaker 1: like you could do nothing else, right, Yeah, I mean listen,
Speaker 1: sometimes you hear stories about this that like the parents
Speaker 1: leave the kids in the car to go in the
Speaker 1: casino or something. Yeah, like she was she was going
Speaker 1: to work. Do you think she wanted to be at
Speaker 1: work at the amaz warehouse? No? Like yeah, so like
Speaker 1: but maybe even she had a babysitter and last minute
Speaker 1: the babysitter fell through. I'm not trying to justify it.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to talk about
Speaker 1: how terrible of a situation this is all around. And
Speaker 1: an eight year old like Lucia's nine, so she was
Speaker 1: just eight, right she she she probably I don't know
Speaker 1: how she didn't even think to just open the door
Speaker 1: and get out of the car. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: any day is like really hot. Like I think it
Speaker 1: just happened so fast that like the kid might not
Speaker 1: even realize. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened, because
Speaker 1: it's i just feel like just I mean, just knowing
Speaker 1: how Lucia is and stuff, I feel like she would
Speaker 1: call me and say, hey, I'm i the air turned
Speaker 1: off or it's too hot. But maybe maybe the kid
Speaker 1: was cold and took a nap even and and then
Speaker 1: just it went down fast. That's what I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it because she was sleeping. I don't know. That's like
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm thinking, like she fell asleep or something,
Speaker 1: and it just I don't know, like that's the only
Speaker 1: reason I could see this going down. And like not
Speaker 1: to sound like not to be like this, but like
Speaker 1: Amazon can't have like childcare at these facilities. Well it's
Speaker 1: it's but that's I don't know what the solution is
Speaker 1: because it's not Amazon's a private company. It's not their problems.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the problem hire someone that doesn't have
Speaker 1: kids and then you don't want to. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I don't want their fault this happened. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like with all their resources and everything, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I feel like most places are not okay
Speaker 1: with you bringing your kid to work. Like I really
Speaker 1: lucked out with it being able to bring you to
Speaker 1: the hospital and you were a little bit older, and
Speaker 1: I was able to sign you up as a volunteer
Speaker 1: so you could kind of like kind of hide me
Speaker 1: in your office, so like that was kind of a difference,
Speaker 1: and they were kind of like okay with that, But
Speaker 1: I worked in the lab. Like if I worked as
Speaker 1: a nurse on the floor, I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: bring you to the hospital. So it's this is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, it's just it. I feel like it
Speaker 1: happens to a lot of people. And we're lucky in
Speaker 1: our town that we have a camp at least for
Speaker 1: a couple hours a day, that's like pretty affordable. But
Speaker 1: it's only for three hours a day. So who could
Speaker 1: do that when they're working a normal full time job exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean people she might be from out of the
Speaker 1: area and not know anyone around here to watch your kid.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so terrible. It's so sad. I mean,
Speaker 1: the kids like him, what second grade, it's terrible. And
Speaker 1: I don't think they based on her charge so she
Speaker 1: was charged with involuntary manslaughter. I don't think based on
Speaker 1: that that they think she intentionally did it, but like
Speaker 1: somebody has to be responsible for it happening, so and
Speaker 1: it's it just it just yeah, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't there's a lot of times when this happens that
Speaker 1: like with that one dad that you're just like, good,
Speaker 1: he should go to jail. He's a scumbag. And like,
Speaker 1: I just I feel like this mom is is probably
Speaker 1: really devastated and on top, but that it was like
Speaker 1: kind of just circumstantial. Yeah for sure. Well this next
Speaker 1: one makes me really sick as well, because I could
Speaker 1: just so easily see us being in this position. So
Speaker 1: last Friday, around four thirty pm, this chick who's my
Speaker 1: age went to just go get her nails done. This
Speaker 1: is something we do every couple weeks. She was going
Speaker 1: to a wedding the next day. She was just trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, like do her thing. So she was an
Speaker 1: NYPD cop and she was getting her nails done for
Speaker 1: the wedding of another police officer. I believe her husband
Speaker 1: was also a police officer. So she's in this nail salon,
Speaker 1: which was in a strip mall, and a bunch of
Speaker 1: other customers or employees are there as well. You know,
Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon night at the nail salon is like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's busy, Yeah, it's really busy. So at the same
Speaker 1: time she's getting her nails done in this parking lot
Speaker 1: of this strip mall, this guy is seen like driving
Speaker 1: around like crazy. He's yelling at people. This woman was
Speaker 1: seen screaming at him because he almost hit her in
Speaker 1: the parking lot. And then within seconds of that lady
Speaker 1: screaming at him him he plows the car through the
Speaker 1: nail saloon. Did they say he did it on purpose
Speaker 1: or it was because I know that he was drunk.
Speaker 1: But was it just he didn't aim for a parking
Speaker 1: spot right or did he intentionally try to hurt people?
Speaker 1: I I'm not really sure. Like he it's seeming like
Speaker 1: that he was just driving around acting totally insane. Just
Speaker 1: I don't know he had he had eighteen beers. It's outrageous,
Speaker 1: it is. It's so scary to think that somebody that
Speaker 1: drank something like that would get into a car and drive.
Speaker 1: It's so I don't know how you fix this problem.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how you prevent something like
Speaker 1: this from happening. He killed four people. So four people
Speaker 1: are dead, nine other people are injured. One of them
Speaker 1: was a twelve year old girl, probably there with her mother, right,
Speaker 1: So like you just have you have a kid just
Speaker 1: there trying to have a good time, and like these
Speaker 1: people have lost their lives for no reason. Everybody's families
Speaker 1: are devastated obviously, Oh shocker, this guy had a DWI before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well and what like how the thing is is, did
Speaker 1: did he have a license? Was it taken away? It
Speaker 1: was taken away, but I think temporarily. Yeah, but even
Speaker 1: if it was, it doesn't matter. It's a piece of paper.
Speaker 1: The punishment, it doesn't matter. Not enough, Like I am sorry,
Speaker 1: we are talking about this every week. It is just
Speaker 1: not enough. It's it really isn't because now it's what's happened.
Speaker 1: Now he killed four people, What's he gonna go job
Speaker 1: for like three years? Like that's what I foresee happening, right,
Speaker 1: because even when people kill people when they're drunk driving,
Speaker 1: I feel like the punishment is less severe than if
Speaker 1: you have a first agree murder drug. And it's it's
Speaker 1: like the So this woman that got killed the cop,
Speaker 1: she's she's just got married. Yeah, she's exactly in my position.
Speaker 1: She just got married last year. She's my age. And
Speaker 1: then the other three people that got killed were employees
Speaker 1: of the now salon. Typically a lot of times they
Speaker 1: hire people or their friends and relatives. So this this
Speaker 1: business is having a loss of three of their Yeah,
Speaker 1: not just employees, but possibly family members or friends as well,
Speaker 1: and like it's like, oh, this guy just looks I
Speaker 1: can't stand his face in the picture of the article.
Speaker 1: Like I just have a specific like distaste for people
Speaker 1: that drive drunk. And I mean, it's just the most
Speaker 1: selfish thing you could do. I just don't. You sit
Speaker 1: here and you hear about this stuff all the time
Speaker 1: and you're like, what could we have done to prevent this?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because like, if you're in a house
Speaker 1: with a car that has keys, how do you prevent
Speaker 1: someone like this from getting in the car? You can't.
Speaker 1: In all cases, you can't. There's nothing you can do
Speaker 1: about it. Like you could try to monitor somebody. And
Speaker 1: like if honestly, if he was at a bar drinking
Speaker 1: this much, the bar has some liability as well for overserving,
Speaker 1: so you have to think about that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know for a fact, if he was out, he
Speaker 1: could have very well been at home and drank that
Speaker 1: much and went out. If he drank eighteen beers at
Speaker 1: a bar, it would cost a lot of money, probably
Speaker 1: me alcoholics have the money. When they would have the money.
Speaker 1: So I worked in a bar for a long time,
Speaker 1: and you would not believe the amount of money spent.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had this one lady come in every
Speaker 1: single day for happy Hour and she spent over one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars just on drinks every single day. Think about that,
Speaker 1: Well whatever, I mean, this guy's just like such a scumbag,
Speaker 1: and I just feel another story. I just feel completely terrible,
Speaker 1: totally senseless. Didn't have to happen innocent people. It's always
Speaker 1: it is always people that are innocent getting killed and
Speaker 1: the drunk drivers are surviving. Always, yes, all the time,
Speaker 1: it's out of control, Like it doesn't even make any
Speaker 1: sense to me. It's disgusting, it really is. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into some medical news. Would you ever take
Speaker 1: medical advice from a television show, let alone a cartoon?
Speaker 1: Which cartoon South Far Oh? Yeah, South Park is pretty
Speaker 1: like genius sometimes, honestly, Like I've that show came out
Speaker 1: when I was seventeen years old or something, and it's
Speaker 1: it's very well written and it and it's written smart.
Speaker 1: It's it's written smart, it's very I don't watch it now,
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it, but I see clips from it
Speaker 1: from time to time, and I'm like, these guys are geniuses,
Speaker 1: with comedy sometimes well those same people. I'm not, like,
Speaker 1: my husband's going to be rolling his eyes at this.
Speaker 1: I like, I'm not into cartoons at all, Like shocker,
Speaker 1: I'm a fun sucker. I know I suck, but you
Speaker 1: don't go outside. I don't go outside, but I don't
Speaker 1: like cartoons. So like, he watches it and I'm just
Speaker 1: like not interested in it at all. But they, the
Speaker 1: creators of it, wrote this musical called The Book of Mormon,
Speaker 1: which is like a South Park version of explaining what
Speaker 1: Mormonism is. And it's like one of the most genius
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen in my life. So I do
Speaker 1: respect for their writing. It is really good. But in
Speaker 1: this case, this doctor is suggesting that this one special
Speaker 1: South Park did could be extremely helpful to medical students,
Speaker 1: so explain why. So it's called the End of Obesity Special,
Speaker 1: and it seems like it's about people like what's going
Speaker 1: on in healthcare right now in the modern world, which
Speaker 1: is all of these people have obesity and they go
Speaker 1: to the doctor and they want to get ozempic, and
Speaker 1: they can't get ozempic because everybody wants it. Even though
Speaker 1: it seems like it's pretty easy to make and it's
Speaker 1: very inexpensive to make. It's very expensive in this country
Speaker 1: to get it. It's always sold out, and they first
Speaker 1: they say, oh, well, we're going to prescribe to you instead, Lizo.
Speaker 1: So so Lizzo did a TikTok or Instagram video because obviously,
Speaker 1: like people make fun of her and stuff all the time.
Speaker 1: So she was like, so why people came to me
Speaker 1: and said that I'm in an episode about obesity for
Speaker 1: South Park And she was like scared to death to
Speaker 1: watch it because you know it will rip her apart.
Speaker 1: And she watched it and she actually wasn't like super
Speaker 1: offended by it because they were saying, oh, we're going
Speaker 1: to give you this prescription for Lizzo. You're going to
Speaker 1: take it and you're actually going to feel good about
Speaker 1: your body and you're not going to feel like you
Speaker 1: need to take these drugs anymore. And it just was
Speaker 1: kind of a play on how ozepic somehow costs so
Speaker 1: much money here in America, where in other countries it's
Speaker 1: not that much money or hard to get as it
Speaker 1: is here, and how American healthcare is just terrible. So well,
Speaker 1: what I also thought was genius of this episode was
Speaker 1: that they are saying, like, isn't it ironic that America
Speaker 1: has the biggest obesity problem, but the drugs are the
Speaker 1: most expensive, So like, you're causing this problem, and it's like,
Speaker 1: clearly something's happening here that makes this such a problem
Speaker 1: in this country specific and then you're going to skyrocket
Speaker 1: the price of the meds to fix it. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's a problem. They created that. Now they're trying to
Speaker 1: act like they're doing something to fix it, but they
Speaker 1: created it. And you could see why this person is saying, oh,
Speaker 1: they should they should let all medical students see this
Speaker 1: because it is a pretty accurate description of what's going
Speaker 1: on in America as far as healthcare. Yeah, so there
Speaker 1: was a quote, actually I pulled from Kyle that said,
Speaker 1: we have sugar companies, pharmaceutical companies, and insurance companies all
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to make money off
Speaker 1: our fucking health It isn't fair to put the blame
Speaker 1: on anyone for their weight, which, like, how crazy that
Speaker 1: this like cartoon that people think is so ridiculous as
Speaker 1: making the most valid points about our healthcare. Sysame they
Speaker 1: have that, But this is why I'm saying that it's
Speaker 1: that's written very well because they have this with all
Speaker 1: different topics. They just kind of like put these lessons
Speaker 1: in and they've been doing that since I was a kid,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's why I think it's pretty good
Speaker 1: for the most part. Yeah, for sure. All right, So
Speaker 1: this next one I consulted my tattoo artist's friend, Rachel
Speaker 1: Shelley about, and it's a little controversial with the people
Speaker 1: in her shop, So I'll get into that when we
Speaker 1: start talking about it. But basically, like so many people
Speaker 1: have tattoos. Obviously, we both have tattoos. I'm sure everybody
Speaker 1: that listens knows that. So they're saying about thirty two
Speaker 1: percent of Americans have at least one tattoo, with twenty
Speaker 1: two percent having two or more. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of people that have them. So now over a
Speaker 1: third of seventy five tattoo and permanent makeup inks from
Speaker 1: popular brands were tested and showed in this new study
Speaker 1: that a lot of them have bacteria. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is when you get a tattoo. It's it's it's a
Speaker 1: pretty picture that you get put on your body. But
Speaker 1: I always say this that it's kind of a medical procedure.
Speaker 1: You're giving yourself a very deep abrasion all the way
Speaker 1: into the dormis. And when you have a needle that
Speaker 1: is puncturing in and out of your skin, it can
Speaker 1: carry in what it's carrying the ink in, but it
Speaker 1: all so could carry in bacteria. And these inks were
Speaker 1: found to have both aerobic which means that these bacteria
Speaker 1: need oxygen, so they would live on the surface of
Speaker 1: the skin and they need oxygen to survive. But the
Speaker 1: more alarming ones that they found were the anaerobic ones
Speaker 1: that don't require oxygen. So if these bacteria are getting
Speaker 1: injected into the dermis where there's no oxygen down there,
Speaker 1: they're able to grow and it's deep in the skin
Speaker 1: and it could cause serious bacterial infections of the skin. Normally,
Speaker 1: when a person gets a tattoo, the most common complication
Speaker 1: is an allergic reaction to the ink or some kind
Speaker 1: of immune response to the ink. But they're seeing an
Speaker 1: increase in bacterial infection, so they're trying to figure out like,
Speaker 1: is this just because of poor hygiene or poor application
Speaker 1: from the tattoo artists that are not cleaning properly in between.
Speaker 1: For example, I always thought it was weird that when
Speaker 1: you get tattooed that they use a regular paper towel
Speaker 1: off of the shelf to wipe because that's not sterile, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're they're you're and you're going to get bacteria
Speaker 1: anyway because your skin has bacteria on it normally. And
Speaker 1: do they ever use an antiseptic to clean your skin off?
Speaker 1: Really not like not a good whatever that green soap
Speaker 1: shit is. I don't even know what that is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely don't use what they would use to do
Speaker 1: a medical procedure, so they're not sterilizing the skin first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what So I sent this to her this morning
Speaker 1: because I was like, you know, I want to I
Speaker 1: want to look out for my friend and make sure
Speaker 1: she's like not using these products, right, And she was like,
Speaker 1: I find it really suspicious that they're not listing these
Speaker 1: brands that they're allegedly testing, because like, I want to
Speaker 1: know as a tattoo artist if the inks I'm using
Speaker 1: are effected by this, right, And then she so then
Speaker 1: she asked everybody she worked with at the shop and
Speaker 1: they were just like, this is a conspiracy theory, and
Speaker 1: there's so much alcohol in most of these inks. That,
Speaker 1: like they just find it hard to believe. But I
Speaker 1: was interested from a scientific standpoint, like what you had
Speaker 1: to say about it, because I'm asking them on their
Speaker 1: front as being the people actually using these products, and
Speaker 1: they're hearing nothing about this. So well, I just look
Speaker 1: at it as being if you were going to go
Speaker 1: let's say you were going to go get a mole,
Speaker 1: a mole removed, a benign mole, even you're going to
Speaker 1: go to the dermatologist and get it removed. They're not
Speaker 1: going to go and first they're going to sterilize your
Speaker 1: skin like you would get before surgery, right yeah. And
Speaker 1: then when they're doing it, if you started bleeding, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't take a paper towel off of the shelf and
Speaker 1: start wiping. So you've broken the sterile environment, right yeah.
Speaker 1: So all all we can say is that bacterial infections
Speaker 1: are increasing and they're trying to find out why. So
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of things, like these inks
Speaker 1: aren't FDA approved, So you could have all the faith
Speaker 1: in these products that you want, However you don't know
Speaker 1: what's in it. That's the thing, Like you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a company I get for all the companies
Speaker 1: can really just put whatever they want. They can put
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck they want in it. There's no regulations
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's the same regulations as makeup, and
Speaker 1: you can get makeup off of Amazon right now that
Speaker 1: has lead in it from China. Like, yeah, there's no regulations.
Speaker 1: So just because the company is saying that it's sterile
Speaker 1: and they put a little plastic wrapper on it, you
Speaker 1: don't even know, like nobody's monitoring them to package these things,
Speaker 1: to even make sure they're putting them in sterile bottles.
Speaker 1: And I'm like one hundred percent know how this works
Speaker 1: as I worked in microbiology for a while and it's
Speaker 1: very hard to just work in a sterile environment because
Speaker 1: everything you touch has bacteria on it. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you just have to think, like
Speaker 1: are the people are the people that are packing these inks?
Speaker 1: Do they know sterile techniques? I don't mean, are there
Speaker 1: machines regulated? No, because it's not regulated, so they could
Speaker 1: just do whatever they want. Yeah, I mean they're doing
Speaker 1: these studies and everything with the inks, but like, are
Speaker 1: they doing the full blown investigation, like going to where
Speaker 1: they're being manufactured and looking into everything else too? So
Speaker 1: I'm just so interesting because it's not regulated. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you were making some kind of if you were,
Speaker 1: let's for for example, in the hospital, you would use
Speaker 1: like steril saline on patients right in their open wounds
Speaker 1: and things like that, there's FDA regulations as to those factories,
Speaker 1: how they put them in the bottles, how they expiration
Speaker 1: dates this, and that. All of that stuff doesn't happen
Speaker 1: with tattoo inks. So I mean, listen, like any anything
Speaker 1: could be Like if you want to say it's a conspiracy,
Speaker 1: like what's the conspiracy they're trying to do? What? Like,
Speaker 1: I just I just want to know, Like, like her
Speaker 1: theory was that they bought a bunch of bottles off
Speaker 1: of Amazon, like you're saying, with makeup and tested them
Speaker 1: and they're putting this out there because like all this
Speaker 1: stuff's apparently coming out in Europe, where like they've proven
Speaker 1: that all these agencies are putting out these likequote unquote
Speaker 1: studies that tattoos are horrible for your health and everything,
Speaker 1: when it's like these super religious organizations backing them because
Speaker 1: they don't want people getting them anymore. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know who did this study in particular, So I could
Speaker 1: look up look into it more to see if they
Speaker 1: do name the brands in the study, because this this
Speaker 1: what we're reading right now is just an article about
Speaker 1: the study, but the actual study might have the the
Speaker 1: brands listed. Yeah, there might also be a thing that
Speaker 1: because of slander and stuff, they might I don't know
Speaker 1: what the rules are as far as outing companies that
Speaker 1: do this, but I just think that when it boils
Speaker 1: down to it, the emergency room visits of stuff, there's
Speaker 1: an increase in bacterial infectus, so they're just trying to
Speaker 1: see why. Yeah, totally have you had people getting tattooed forever,
Speaker 1: so like why is it getting worse now? Yes, it's
Speaker 1: because more people are getting tattooed than ever before. But
Speaker 1: I still think that even though the numbers are increasing,
Speaker 1: they're still saying that. Yeah. I mean, I just thought
Speaker 1: it was interesting because like, we come in from this
Speaker 1: side reading this report in this study, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to hear a first hand account. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I don't blame Rachel. My first question would be
Speaker 1: like what brand, because I'm not going to use it anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: That's exactly what she was like freaking out about because
Speaker 1: she's like, I want to know what the like what
Speaker 1: the first thing? She was like, why don't the single
Speaker 1: tattoo artist that's listening right now does too? And every
Speaker 1: person that gets tattoos wants to know too. But like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's not listed. It might just
Speaker 1: not be listed in this particular article. But I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm going to find it. So, Yeah, especially because this
Speaker 1: is a serious crisis, we should be letting people know
Speaker 1: so it doesn't continue to happen. But I think that
Speaker 1: I think the bigger problem here is, like if all
Speaker 1: these people are getting tattoos, they should they should regulate
Speaker 1: the tattooing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why it's
Speaker 1: not FD And it's not just it's not just for
Speaker 1: back material. It's for the metals that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: The allergens, things like that, Like these things you should
Speaker 1: be aware because you're permanently injecting that under your skin
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. You can't get it
Speaker 1: out unless you get I don't even know if a
Speaker 1: laser tattoo removal is considered a full removal of a tattoo.
Speaker 1: You have to excize the skin. Yeah, because tattoos and
Speaker 1: in your one lecture you had before, right, you talked
Speaker 1: about how tattoos go seven layers deep in the skin,
Speaker 1: is right? They go, Yeah, they go deep into the skin.
Speaker 1: They go in the dermis, which is below the epidermis
Speaker 1: or the layer that you see. They go deep. And
Speaker 1: even with laser removal, I'm not sure that every single
Speaker 1: pigment particle is removed in case you are having some
Speaker 1: kind of terrible allergic reaction or something. So just to think, like,
Speaker 1: the only way that people could get a tattoo fully removed,
Speaker 1: like if it was causing their body to freak out,
Speaker 1: is to have it excised, then they definitely should regulate
Speaker 1: the stuff. Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I and
Speaker 1: the procedure could be a little bit tighter too. I
Speaker 1: don't know why it's not. The inks aren't regulated. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think that's ridiculous tattoo. Tattoo has been around forever,
Speaker 1: and it's been increasing in popularity for decades. It's not
Speaker 1: like just in the last five years everybody has one.
Speaker 1: They've it's been really popular since for the last like
Speaker 1: what thirty forty years. More and more people have been
Speaker 1: getting them. So I don't know this is It's definitely interesting.
Speaker 1: So on our last episode, which was six Shocking Stories,
Speaker 1: I have to say that so slow. It's like such
Speaker 1: a dungue twister for me. We were talking about a
Speaker 1: lot of like unusual sex practices or ones that maybe
Speaker 1: ended up in wrong situations. So I was surprised to
Speaker 1: see that gen Z is really into the kink of
Speaker 1: strangling during sex. So gen Z is kids born between
Speaker 1: So this is after you, So you're millennial. I'm like
Speaker 1: the very end of millennial. So gen Z is it
Speaker 1: says nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve, which makes them
Speaker 1: between twelve and twenty seven years old. Is that? Does
Speaker 1: that sound? Yeah? That's right. So the study was conducted
Speaker 1: at the University of Melbourne Law School as well as
Speaker 1: Queensland and revealed that fifty seven percent of the participants.
Speaker 1: How many were studied? Wasn't it like forty like a
Speaker 1: significant amount of people that they see? It was like
Speaker 1: over four thousand people, over four thousand, Yeah, so fifty percent,
Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of them. So over two thousand people
Speaker 1: said that they had been strangled and or perfect at
Speaker 1: least once during sex at least once, and over fifty
Speaker 1: percent said that they had strangled someone during sex. Well
Speaker 1: why don't you, why don't you explain, like like why
Speaker 1: why would somebody do this? Like what makes it? What
Speaker 1: makes this? When when you cut off off oxygen too
Speaker 1: your brain it enhances an orgasm, that's like a known fact.
Speaker 1: But there may be really dangerous though, right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it could kill you. And the thing is is
Speaker 1: that there's no there's no safe way to do it.
Speaker 1: And I mean listen, like the article talks about vanilla
Speaker 1: sex and like boring sex, right and I don't want
Speaker 1: to sound like that right now, but like you're cut
Speaker 1: if you cut off oxygen to your brain, Like it's
Speaker 1: just why would you ever want to cut off oxygen
Speaker 1: to your brain for any reason? Because there's all different
Speaker 1: levels that people can tolerate. And when you have someone
Speaker 1: that's not a professional doing it, especially like they don't
Speaker 1: understand how much is too much, you can get permanent
Speaker 1: brain damage, Like why would you risk the most Famously,
Speaker 1: the actor David Carodine from Kill Bill had died doing
Speaker 1: this called autoerotic asphyxiation, where it wasn't he like choking
Speaker 1: himself with a rope while he was jerking off and
Speaker 1: it just went too and he died. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: what we're talking about sex with people is called erotic asphyxiation,
Speaker 1: and auto erotic is when you're doing it by yourself,
Speaker 1: which and yeh seems more usious to be doing it
Speaker 1: by yourself. Well, it's it's just dangerous. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess it is because like if you at least if
Speaker 1: you nod out, hopefully when you're having sex with another person,
Speaker 1: that they realize that, you know, they've done too much
Speaker 1: and you're there with somebody monitoring it, whereas when you're
Speaker 1: by yourself, it's kind of like whatever. But that that's
Speaker 1: actually a really good celebrity death dis section that we
Speaker 1: did in the Grocery on David Carrodine and shows a
Speaker 1: lot of different cases of auto eerotic asphyxiation. And it's
Speaker 1: it's I understand why people do it, Like I get it,
Speaker 1: but it's just no matter what anybody says, there's not
Speaker 1: a safe way to do it. So every time you're
Speaker 1: doing it, you are taking a risk. Well, in general,
Speaker 1: this seems to be a problem because this like sex
Speaker 1: expert sexpert on this article seemed to suggest that all
Speaker 1: the people she interviewed seemed like it wasn't quote unquote
Speaker 1: good sex unless you left the encounter with like a
Speaker 1: bruising or scrapes or like pain. So, which is interesting
Speaker 1: because in any other circumstance that would be considered like
Speaker 1: partner abuse exactly. But then but then they said, like
Speaker 1: throw a mattress underneath you, and now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it's like a sexual satisfy like satisfying thing or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. Yes, I mean, it's it's really interesting to
Speaker 1: me that their generation in particular, who is like mass
Speaker 1: complainers about everything and calling people out in the well,
Speaker 1: that's that's their outlet. Is that like that they do
Speaker 1: that because they are they are mass complainers. So there
Speaker 1: must be something with mass complaining and wanting to get
Speaker 1: choked out while you're having sex. Oh, I guess just
Speaker 1: be safe when you're when you're doing your things. So
Speaker 1: all right, So this this is this is a topic
Speaker 1: we've covered like more privately because you know, it gets
Speaker 1: like weird. But last year the Moodor Museum in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: which explain what this museum is for everybody, Well, it
Speaker 1: used to be the most amazing museum in the world
Speaker 1: that it's been there for a really long time, and
Speaker 1: they have actual real life specimens of pathology on display
Speaker 1: in jars or mummified or skeletons that show what it
Speaker 1: looks like when a person has a pathology. So you know,
Speaker 1: in the grocerom and stuff, we show photographs of it
Speaker 1: and we try to educate that way, but at this
Speaker 1: museum they would educate with the actual specimen. You walk
Speaker 1: through the museum, it explains to you what it is.
Speaker 1: And it was really great for a long time for people,
Speaker 1: especially people that had odd and unusual diseases or conditions,
Speaker 1: that they can go to this museum and see something
Speaker 1: and say, hey, that looks like something I had, or
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of historical things they have this
Speaker 1: They had this whole drawer of foreign body that you
Speaker 1: would see that people swallowed by accident, and just some
Speaker 1: of them were really interesting to see just from a
Speaker 1: long time ago, like a woman would put a hairpin
Speaker 1: in her mouth and swallow it by accident or something.
Speaker 1: But some of the items were just items that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't even use today, so it's just cool from a
Speaker 1: historical perspective. They had the liver of Chang and Eang,
Speaker 1: the famous can join twins, just lots of different unusual
Speaker 1: medical things that we've heard of, but you could actually
Speaker 1: see it, and it just was such an awesome museum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so in twenty twenty two they changed leadership behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and then last year stuff really started to change. So
Speaker 1: one day they used to have this YouTube channel that
Speaker 1: had like videos of all their exhibitions and specimens and stuff,
Speaker 1: and one day this YouTube channel just disappears, and people
Speaker 1: that were fans of the museums were like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck happened to this? This was one of the most
Speaker 1: awesome things I loved watching and this was a lot yes,
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of work. I know that
Speaker 1: curator she put a lot of work into making these videos,
Speaker 1: interviewing people that actually had donated their specimens to the museum,
Speaker 1: and they had a lot of subscribers and a lot
Speaker 1: of people were getting educated from it, and then they
Speaker 1: decided to just turn it off one day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so after the YouTube channel goes away, then you know,
Speaker 1: stuff starts rolling out that there's questionable actions, like they
Speaker 1: might close the museum in general, and you know it's
Speaker 1: all because of the ethics of how these specimens were sourced. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that they ever said they were going
Speaker 1: to close the museum. They were just going to take
Speaker 1: all the human specimens out of the museum. You might
Speaker 1: as well close the exactly, nobody's gonna want to go
Speaker 1: like sorry, that's why everybody goes FYI. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: so they were basically saying they were going to remove
Speaker 1: remove all the human specimens because of like ethical reasons
Speaker 1: and whatever. Well, the biggest reason is is because the
Speaker 1: man you're going to talk about in a minute, he
Speaker 1: had a surgery done, he had an unusual condition and
Speaker 1: he decided he wanted to donate it, and he took
Speaker 1: his organ and donated it and signed the paperwork. Right. Yes,
Speaker 1: their issue is that because this museum opened over one
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. Their issue is that there was specimens
Speaker 1: in there that people did not consent to having in
Speaker 1: the museum. Yes, and these are very unusual things that
Speaker 1: you will never see again. Some just weird, like syphilis
Speaker 1: of the skull for example, Like you're never going to
Speaker 1: say to see tertiary syphilis in a skull. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say never, but it's not going
Speaker 1: to be something you're going to come across as commonly
Speaker 1: in this time period, and instead of giving a history lesson,
Speaker 1: because that's what it is to say, like, hey, doctors
Speaker 1: back in the day would just like grave rob these things,
Speaker 1: or they would just take these things when a person
Speaker 1: died and didn't ask their family if it was okay.
Speaker 1: And that's how it was done back in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: It's not okay now, but this is how it was done.
Speaker 1: We still want you to look at this. Instead of
Speaker 1: having like a history lesson so people could learn how
Speaker 1: medicine has evolved over the years, they decided to just
Speaker 1: hide it away in a closet and not let anybody
Speaker 1: look at it because it was disrespectful. But isn't it
Speaker 1: more disrespectful to shove somebody's remains in a closet and
Speaker 1: let them deteriorate, then keep taking care of them and
Speaker 1: just having a little plaque that's like, hey, because of
Speaker 1: the history of this museum, this specimen might have not
Speaker 1: have been ethically sourced necessarily, but it's important that we
Speaker 1: learn from it and every like, there's so many ways
Speaker 1: to go about it. It was just it was trending topic
Speaker 1: of the week. Then Harvard took out a human skin
Speaker 1: book they had it, and then it was like Smithsonian's
Speaker 1: going to take out all their human remains. Like it
Speaker 1: just was like a trending topic of the week for
Speaker 1: all of these snewty frickin' people that are running these museums.
Speaker 1: And there's so many people that are against this, especially
Speaker 1: in medicine. I mean whatever I am, of course, but
Speaker 1: I just think that there's so many doctors, old museum curators,
Speaker 1: people that just learn from this kind of stuff. You
Speaker 1: think when you're teaching a doctor that you could just
Speaker 1: teach them everything by looking in a textbook, and you
Speaker 1: just can't. And this is you're just taking away another
Speaker 1: educational tool. I've taken so many physicians to this museum
Speaker 1: and they just and and other healthcare professionals too, and
Speaker 1: they just there's nothing like seeing it in person. It's
Speaker 1: just really great for education, and it's just really sad
Speaker 1: that these people have ownership of such a great collection
Speaker 1: that's no longer able to be seen. So now in
Speaker 1: the news this week, there are people that are alive
Speaker 1: that have donated their own specimens to the museum and
Speaker 1: they are outraged by what's going on there and they
Speaker 1: want them back. Good should take them back. They could
Speaker 1: give them the meal. I'll show them to everybody that
Speaker 1: wants to see them and teach them all about it,
Speaker 1: because the purpose of donating them was to educate people.
Speaker 1: And then you're hiding this stuff away, even these people
Speaker 1: who have signed the paperwork and done everything. Just I
Speaker 1: am thinking about this guy in particular. Right, he had
Speaker 1: a condition called acromegli, which is a problem when there
Speaker 1: is too much growth hormone and it causes it could
Speaker 1: cause all of your body bards and your organs to
Speaker 1: get really large. Right, he required a heart transplant. Okay,
Speaker 1: a heart transplant is a hardcore surgery. It's your first
Speaker 1: you're having heart failure and going through that. Then you
Speaker 1: get on a list, then you have to get this surgery.
Speaker 1: Then you might reject there's all these things. Right, you're
Speaker 1: in the hospital for a while after you get it done.
Speaker 1: He went, He got that done, had the transplant done,
Speaker 1: went through the trouble of getting his heart, his explanted
Speaker 1: heart from the hospital to the museum, which is a
Speaker 1: lot of paperwork and stuff. You can't just take an
Speaker 1: organ from the hospital and donate it to museum. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of phone calls, paperwork, transport, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And he went through all that because he wanted people
Speaker 1: to learn from his condition, from all the pain that
Speaker 1: he went through, and he thought like, hey, maybe there's
Speaker 1: someone like me out there that's suffering from this and
Speaker 1: wants to see it. Maybe there's a doctor that's going
Speaker 1: to come visit and see it and recognize this before
Speaker 1: it becomes a problem, whatever the case is. So he
Speaker 1: does that. He goes again to the museum several times
Speaker 1: and films these videos with the curator to talk about
Speaker 1: his condition, which is awesome. It's like my book, It's
Speaker 1: like the best is talking to patients like you see
Speaker 1: the pictures, but then talking to the patients that actually
Speaker 1: experienced it. It's just like the best well rounded education
Speaker 1: you can get, especially for doctors who are taking care
Speaker 1: of people and went through all this trouble and now
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, cool, you're gonna fucking put it in
Speaker 1: a closet. I'll have it back thanks. Yeah. And there's
Speaker 1: another this article discussed is another one men who donated
Speaker 1: her specimen as well, who talked to the new lady
Speaker 1: in charge who is basically saying there's no difference between
Speaker 1: the donation of a human specimen or art. So it's
Speaker 1: nice to see that these people are having these, you know,
Speaker 1: parts of their body. If there's no if there's no difference,
Speaker 1: then put it on display. Exactly because you think everything
Speaker 1: at every art museum has been ethically sourced, like, come on, no,
Speaker 1: we actually it hasn't. And if you really want to
Speaker 1: go down that hole, we might as well just close
Speaker 1: every great museum and display of anything that we have.
Speaker 1: Like think about this, right, University of Pends get in
Speaker 1: the same way with their with their archaeology museum. But
Speaker 1: then I'm like, they have all that Native American shit there.
Speaker 1: You think that was all ethically sourced. No, they probably
Speaker 1: stole it from the people it belonged to. Right, So
Speaker 1: now now that's not a problem, but you're gonna get
Speaker 1: rid of the mommies and stuff like it's just fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: So I would urge people to go in the grosser room.
Speaker 1: Because we actually did an interview last year with James Edmonson,
Speaker 1: who oh, I loved him. He was incredible, But most
Speaker 1: of the episode was about this very topic because he
Speaker 1: was in charge of a museum for decades in a
Speaker 1: really long time, and this was really disturbing to him.
Speaker 1: So and he was he wrote the book. The reason
Speaker 1: that I interviewed him is because he wrote the book
Speaker 1: dis Section, which is such a great book. If you
Speaker 1: guys are into this stuff, it's a big photo book.
Speaker 1: You should still be able to get it. I'll link
Speaker 1: it in the website description. Yeah, but it's a great
Speaker 1: book that shows medical students to how they used to
Speaker 1: dissect bodies a while ago. Not they're not really current pictures.
Speaker 1: And so he was one of the writers of that book.
Speaker 1: But yes, like Maria said, he was also kind of
Speaker 1: had a similar job being a curator. And how I
Speaker 1: mean it's offensive, It's honestly offensive. And this person that's
Speaker 1: running the museum now is probably not even involved with
Speaker 1: medicine at all, which just really infuriates me. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's more disrespectful in my opinion, to take the things
Speaker 1: away that where they're being properly cared for by people
Speaker 1: that are specialists in this and like devoting their lives.
Speaker 1: Imagine this is what James Edmondson said that really stuck
Speaker 1: out to me. He said, imagine spending your life preserving
Speaker 1: these items, only for this new person to come in
Speaker 1: and take your life's work away and shove it in
Speaker 1: a closet. Yeah. And I know for a fact because
Speaker 1: I've seen the work that Anna did there at the
Speaker 1: museum that she like these people are dedicated to the
Speaker 1: sheep she left. She doesn't work there anymore. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: read that in the article, which really pisses me off
Speaker 1: to But you know, I think about that too, Like
Speaker 1: if all of these things, so they have like a
Speaker 1: back room with stuff that's like not in great condition,
Speaker 1: like everything can't be displayed because of certain reasons like that.
Speaker 1: But if those specimens, like let's say this guy's heart
Speaker 1: goes in the back room, who's taking care of it?
Speaker 1: Because those fluids need to be changed often, like there's
Speaker 1: a special way to handle it. They have specimens that
Speaker 1: are over one hundred years old in a jar still
Speaker 1: because there's been people that have loved the collection, that
Speaker 1: have taking care of it so good for all of
Speaker 1: these years. And if it sits, I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: like the fluid will evaporate out of the jar and
Speaker 1: the thing will dry up and it'll be like it'll
Speaker 1: literally be trash, Like you can't ever show anything with it.
Speaker 1: It'll be a dried piece of meat and it's just
Speaker 1: it's just really devastating. No, it really is so. And
Speaker 1: for what I do. What I mean, we've been saying,
Speaker 1: we've been saying the whole time that this whole exercise
Speaker 1: is like completely ridiculous. And now to see that these
Speaker 1: people that have that have given their own pieces of
Speaker 1: their body to try to educate other people and like
Speaker 1: do something for a good cause or like give it
Speaker 1: back to me, it's insane. And I agree with them
Speaker 1: one percent. If I spent all the time, like you're saying,
Speaker 1: this guy doing its his heart right, and it's he's
Speaker 1: had to do all this paperwork and go through this
Speaker 1: whole thing to get it there, and then it's just
Speaker 1: like being shoved in the back of a closet or
Speaker 1: I think they said it's like out on display right now,
Speaker 1: like thanks, after I yelled at you, now you put
Speaker 1: it out right, So he should still take it back
Speaker 1: out of principle, No, I would. I The only thing
Speaker 1: I could hope is that they're that nobody goes there anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would just and then someone else takes over
Speaker 1: and it's like ding dong, the witch is dead, and like,
Speaker 1: well we'll start over again, well, they should do not
Speaker 1: that much time. They should take it back and donate
Speaker 1: it to an institution that's actually going to respect what
Speaker 1: they're doing. So it's disgusting. No, they won't. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's some museum out there that'll take the stuff.
Speaker 1: They won't do it though. That's that's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: and it's some weird control thing that like it just
Speaker 1: goes well beyond what is on the surface in my opinion. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, other death news. All right, So there's been
Speaker 1: this like fear for a long time of like robots
Speaker 1: and ai taking over jobs. Were you ever concerned about
Speaker 1: it coming to the Morgue? No, But when I read
Speaker 1: about this, I was like, oh, this completely makes sense. Actually,
Speaker 1: So the Massachusetts Medical Examiner Office has purchased a dog
Speaker 1: like robot trying to assist with some of their autopsies
Speaker 1: because they get so many a year. So when you
Speaker 1: go to the Medical Examiner's office, it's really just like
Speaker 1: anybody that dies that they don't know why they died,
Speaker 1: whether it's suspicious or not, goes to the Medical Examiner's office.
Speaker 1: So let's say, for example, they have a person that
Speaker 1: was found dead outside right, and they don't know why
Speaker 1: they died. They and then they do they start doing
Speaker 1: what's called the external exam, So they're looking at the
Speaker 1: outside of the body, and they take off the guy's
Speaker 1: shirt and he has a big incision on his chest
Speaker 1: that makes it look like he had a previous heart surgery,
Speaker 1: and they do a quick toxicology and it's all negative.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're able to say, okay, just based upon like
Speaker 1: he has no trauma, there's nothing going on here. He
Speaker 1: has this heart history. You know, he's not high on
Speaker 1: any kind of drug or anything. We're going to call
Speaker 1: this a cardiovascular death. And the reason that they do
Speaker 1: that is because medical examiner's offices are notoriously short staffed,
Speaker 1: and in fact, there is a shortage of forensic pathologists
Speaker 1: in the country in general. So they want to dedicate
Speaker 1: their time and enjery and energy towards people who need it,
Speaker 1: like people who were murdered or people that died in
Speaker 1: a horrible accident. So they need that investigative services more
Speaker 1: for that then for people that probably died for natural disease.
Speaker 1: So they're saying that they do forty seven hundred a
Speaker 1: year external exams. That's a lot of bodies. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you split that up every day, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of bodies. And they're saying that this technology could help
Speaker 1: them have doctors kind of look at it over this
Speaker 1: robot and help them with the external exam. Maybe they
Speaker 1: wouldn't even have to bring them into the more. You
Speaker 1: just have to think about all the resources that are
Speaker 1: used in order to you find a person dead. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you have to bring them back to the morg Well,
Speaker 1: you have to pay an employee to do that. You
Speaker 1: have to pay an employee to take the pictures, you
Speaker 1: have to pay an employee to bring them back and
Speaker 1: lay them out and do the external exam again out
Speaker 1: in the morgue. And they're saying that even though this
Speaker 1: thing costs a lot of money for a robot, I
Speaker 1: think it's it was two hundred and sixty nine seven
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five dollars. It's a lot of money
Speaker 1: for anything, right, Yeah, But they're saying that they're paying
Speaker 1: double in overtime for all of this extra work. So
Speaker 1: then they did in years prior which was it added
Speaker 1: up to be like four hundred thousand additional dollars in
Speaker 1: overtime money. So like right there, it kind of pays
Speaker 1: for itself if you're going to be able to prevent
Speaker 1: people from working so much. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's great in certain situations. And also another thing is like,
Speaker 1: let's say there's a situation where a person dies and
Speaker 1: they had some kind of a and exposure to a
Speaker 1: chemical that a human shouldn't be around, or they're in
Speaker 1: a room where humans shouldn't be because it's not safe.
Speaker 1: That's why the person's dead. This is perfect that they
Speaker 1: could send this robot in to go examine the body
Speaker 1: or do whatever and not expose their personnel. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was thinking that's really good for that too. And I
Speaker 1: was reading that they also tried to use this in
Speaker 1: hospitals during like COVID and stuff to try to prevent
Speaker 1: some employees from getting infection. So that's definitely an interesting
Speaker 1: way to apply it. Yeah, I'm all for it. I
Speaker 1: think it's great. Yeah, all right, onto Questions of the Day.
Speaker 1: Every Friday at the at Mother Knows Death Instagram, we
Speaker 1: put a story up where you could ask whatever questions
Speaker 1: you want. So, first is how long do specimens typically
Speaker 1: last informulin? Well, we were just talking about that with
Speaker 1: the moodor museum. Right, they could last a really long time.
Speaker 1: Like me, let me pull out this guy again, my
Speaker 1: Lucia's plasenna. Well, this is actually so. I originally fixed
Speaker 1: it in formaline for a couple months, and then I
Speaker 1: switched it over to alcohol. But as you could even
Speaker 1: see in my jar the alcohol, so I had I
Speaker 1: did it maybe when she was born, within the year.
Speaker 1: So the alcohol is starting to evaporate. It just does
Speaker 1: all the time, and the water and the alcohol looks
Speaker 1: a little grimy too, So I probably should take off
Speaker 1: the lid and clean it out and put fresh stuff
Speaker 1: in it, which is what the curators that these museums
Speaker 1: do all the time. They know how to take care
Speaker 1: of these specimens. So if you had something in an
Speaker 1: air tight thing with formuline, I mean it could, it
Speaker 1: could last years and years and years and years, and
Speaker 1: if you looked at it under the microscope it would
Speaker 1: still look really crisp. But in these cases it has
Speaker 1: to be changed out because of the evaporation. So I
Speaker 1: hope that helps with your question a little bit. All right, Next,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite organ? Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: My favorite organ to cut is the liver because it's
Speaker 1: just like lunch meat kind of. It just reminds me
Speaker 1: of like balogney or something. It just cuts very smooth
Speaker 1: and nice with a with a nice sharp knife. But
Speaker 1: I really like, I really I feel like my favorite
Speaker 1: organ system is the GI system. It's I like that,
Speaker 1: like the way it works is interesting to me. But
Speaker 1: so it just depends on like, what what do you mean?
Speaker 1: My favorite one that cuts a liver. My favorite one
Speaker 1: to look at is a heart. But my favorite one
Speaker 1: the way it works is the GI system. I kind
Speaker 1: of hate the brain. It's just a little too complicated
Speaker 1: and mushiev for me. I'm just not really interested in
Speaker 1: the anatomy of it. It's kind of boring to me.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are interested in neurology
Speaker 1: and neuropathology. It's just kind of I'm just not that
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah. Well, I'm triggered by the placenta because
Speaker 1: that summer you made me intern with you at the hospital,
Speaker 1: the first specimen you showed me was a placenta, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to puke everywhere. So yeah, but they're kind
Speaker 1: of amazing organs because they they just form, they just form,
Speaker 1: and they're temporary. Yeah, it's like you form this huge
Speaker 1: organ that's the size of like it's it's bigger than
Speaker 1: your spleen. It's it's it's a big organ size, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like the size of your
Speaker 1: stomach almost. Yeah, I mean that was and then you
Speaker 1: and then it's disposable. It's like, yeah, we don't need
Speaker 1: you anymore. So yeah, that's why I took it home,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I formed that organ. I want it. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe that's why some people are inclined to eat it.
Speaker 1: They're just fascinated. I never wanted to eat it. It
Speaker 1: looks it looks like steakish when you cut it when
Speaker 1: it's fresh. So it's just like I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: where I draw the line. All right, last question? What
Speaker 1: do we do for fun? What's fun? I like to
Speaker 1: go mini golfing or to the movies. I embroider as
Speaker 1: a hobby, which is fun but sometimes could be stressful
Speaker 1: when I'm like making Louis this present last week that
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like I have to rush, But what about you? Well,
Speaker 1: we go to the Phillies games. That's like that's our all.
Speaker 1: That's like our family, Like, okay, turn it off. For
Speaker 1: the night and go relax and do this as a family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do that. Then it sucks though when they're not playing.
Speaker 1: But they've been in the playoffs the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: which is good because then we get like another couple
Speaker 1: of months of baseball, which is awesome. Yeah. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I garden. It's like, I'm not really that
Speaker 1: exciting of a person. I like to do activities with
Speaker 1: the kids. We go to the we go down the
Speaker 1: shore all the time in the summer too, so and
Speaker 1: then in the winter it's like we have to find
Speaker 1: other things to do, like go to the movies and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But we don't do anything like mind blowing.
Speaker 1: Just despite the thought that I don't go outside, I
Speaker 1: do go fishing sometimes with my husbands. I do like fishing.
Speaker 1: It is satisfying to do. So yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: nothing crazy. I feel like the stuff most people do, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. We don't do anything were really
Speaker 1: not exciting. I'm not like, oh, I go out and
Speaker 1: get drunk and dance all night, like that's not happening.
Speaker 1: In fact, that's the worst thing that could ever happen.
Speaker 1: That would be like my worst nightmare. To really be
Speaker 1: out of the house past nine o'clock is my worst
Speaker 1: nightmare at this point. Yeah. I mean last Saturday, we
Speaker 1: had a pretty good day because we went We just
Speaker 1: had like no commitments that day for the first time
Speaker 1: in a long time. So we went fishing and then
Speaker 1: we came home and chilled for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then we went mini golfing and we went to this
Speaker 1: new winery and just got a cheeseboard and like a
Speaker 1: glass of wine each. That was really good. I actually
Speaker 1: want to go there with you because the food was
Speaker 1: really good and it had a lot of gluten free stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we like we definitely like I feel like
Speaker 1: I used to go out to dinner a lot more
Speaker 1: and try different foods like a lot more before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and now I'm just kind of like over it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which sucks because that used to be a huge thing
Speaker 1: that I used to do. And we try to do
Speaker 1: like different activities, Like we're going to go to this
Speaker 1: Chinese lantern fest. That's going to be pretty cool. Oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you went last night. I didn't feel like it, Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty hot out yesterday too, so
Speaker 1: it's summer in Philly. It's hot every day. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: don't forget to submit your stories for six Shocking Stories
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Speaker 1: started to roll in and they're quite interesting. So yeah,
Speaker 1: if you have any kind of like crazy medical thing
Speaker 1: that's happened to you, and we we did this a
Speaker 1: little little bit with the book getting submissions for the book.
Speaker 1: You don't have to have pictures though, we could just
Speaker 1: talk about it on the podcast. But if you have pictures,
Speaker 1: we can make a post in the gross room too,
Speaker 1: because pictures always just complete everything. Then, like, give us
Speaker 1: a little teaser in the subject line, you know, like
Speaker 1: I want to be shocked when I open the story
Speaker 1: I start reading it. Be very descriptive. We love like
Speaker 1: no message is too long, in my opinion, we want
Speaker 1: all the details possible. Yeah, and we'll write you back
Speaker 1: if we have any more questions about it. And then
Speaker 1: if you want us to say your name or whatever,
Speaker 1: well we can kindly do that. Or just if it's
Speaker 1: completely embarrassing and the last thing you want is your
Speaker 1: name attached to the story, then we don't have to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you've already submitted, we won't read the names, because
Speaker 1: like we didn't specify that the last time we were
Speaker 1: taking submissions. But if you want your name, you could
Speaker 1: say it and then we'll figure out when we start
Speaker 1: doing those how we're going to go about that. But
Speaker 1: are excited to hear your guys' stories and we hope
Speaker 1: you have an awesome Fourth of July. Yeah, have a
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