WEBVTT - Susan Smith Seeks Sugar Daddy Post Parole, Man Wants Mütter Donation Back, Tori Spelling Eats Placenta, South Park Could Educate Med Students, Paris Hilton in Congress, and More! 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:20.720 Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.040 Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.919 the story of the week. So we're gonna take it 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.720 back to nineteen ninety four, the best year of your life, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.760 the year I was born. Well, I was thinking about 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.680 this when we were reading this story because I was like, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.360 because I remember when this was happening in the news 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.239 and you were just a baby. So I don't know 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.440 if you do you even know about this story? No, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.559 I actually hadn't heard about it before, but I was 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.120 thinking of kind of jealous as a true crime fan, like, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.680 you had a pretty good couple years in the nineties 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.000 because when you were pregnant with me, the whole OJ 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.519 thing was going on, right, and now this was happening, 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:57.800 and the Menendez Brothers was happening, and Scott Peterson was happening. Yeah, 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.240 there was definitely a lot going on in the news 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.520 and when this one happened. This is Susan Smith, Yes, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.360 Susan Smith. So you never you never heard I've literally 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.680 never heard of this case, and I you know, this 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.880 of course has many layers to it. So as I 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.640 continue to read about it, I'm just like, oh wow, 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.559 this crime's crazy. Oh wow, this is crazy. Oh wow, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.840 this is crazy. So basically highlights is this twenty two 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.400 year old woman named Susan Smith. She had told police 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.480 that this guy had carjacked her and her two children 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.000 were in the car. They were one of almost two 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.080 when the other one was fourteen months old, so they 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.560 were like really young kids. Toddler, Yeah, toddler's So for 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.280 nine days, you know, she's like freaking out there searching 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.200 all these neighborhoods, going door to door. Her and her 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.399 husband are on the news pleading for these kids to 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.960 be returned. After nine days, she finally admits no, she 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.680 strapped them into her car and let the car go 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.760 into the river, essentially drowning them to death. Yeah, and 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.720 this was you know, she had these news conferences all 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.720 the time. I'm her poor husband because he had nothing 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.200 to do with it, right and it. Yeah, I remember 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.240 her being on there crying. But I was only what 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.360 fifteen years old or sixteen years old at the time, 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.679 and I remember being like, this lady is full of shit, 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.840 Like she she just didn't sound sincere. So I kind 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.800 of felt like something was up. Every time I was 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.680 watching these press conferences. Yeah, so I don't know what, Like, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.560 do you remember what made her finally admit it, Like 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.920 did they catch her in the act? I don't know 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.840 what made her admit it, but she said she was 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.040 having an affair with a guy who was wealthy that 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.640 didn't want children. Yeah, because when I was telling you 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.320 the other day, I watched that documentary about that chick 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.320 Cherry Peppini that kidnapped herself and she wouldn't admit it. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.880 And finally the FBI was like, we have all the 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.880 information that you did it, so like say it because 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.800 we know you did it. Yeah. I don't really remember 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.280 exactly what happened, but like I said, she was just 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.280 like not sincere, So I think that, And she said 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.400 it was like a black dude and they and it 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.080 was just terrible how they went into like a black 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.800 neighborhood and were searching house to house and everything looking 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.280 for somebody that didn't even exist. Yeah, like totally unnecessary 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.280 on all fronts, right, and then these children lost their lives. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.880 So her lawyers during the trial, it seemed like they 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.560 were trying to argue that she was having like postpartum 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.520 psychosis or something, which made her do this, but it 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.359 didn't really matter. And I feel like if that argument 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.639 was in court today, it would hold up a lot more. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.880 But like in the nineties, nobody was really seeing that 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.240 argument right. Also, and I don't know much about this, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.920 but her kid was a year and two months old, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.840 So I don't know what the interval is of postpartum psychosis, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:47.040 but I feel like that's kind of late. Yeah, Like 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:48.800 I don't, you know what I mean, Like you're kind 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.840 of getting back to normal with your body at that time, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.240 So I'm not sure what the time period is, but 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.320 I don't I mean, I definitely would hold more water now, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.000 but it's not like the kid was three months old, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.840 do you know what I mean? It was, yeah, So 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.800 I mean the jury wasn't buying it either. So she 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.840 in nineteen ninety five, she was convicted to life with 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:12.480 the possibility of parole. So now thirty years later, in November, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.760 she's eligible for parole. But of course that means she 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.600 has to, you know, go to the parole board and 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.279 try to pleay her case and everything. The ex husband, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.520 who was the father of the kids does not want 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.720 her to get out of jail, obviously, but you know, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.560 she with this potential of getting out, she's pretty confident 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.839 about it. So she's trying to set up how she's 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.560 gonna make money, and she's trying to reel in some 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.520 sugar daddies and have phone sex with people to raise 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.520 money so she could do that when she's out of jail. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.599 The criminal justice system is just like everybody knows this 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.600 that it's so fucked up, But think about this, like 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.400 this lady killed both of her children strapped in a 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.640 car seat and drowned to death. That must have been 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.159 a very great death for them, by the way, Yeah, 0:04:55.240 --> 0:05:00.839 absolutely torturous, terrible, right, she and then she's eligible to 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.760 get out of jail. She's young, Yeah, she's fifty two fifty. Yeah, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.560 she's so young, so she could get out of jail. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.960 But she wasn't young enough when it happened to not 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.360 know that that was wrong. Well yeah, I mean not 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.760 like she was thirteen with two kids or something and 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.320 you would think, Okay, maybe she's just a teenager and whatever. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:23.640 I'm really surprised that she got life with the possibility 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.320 of pearol. I'm really surprised how confident she is she's 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.320 gonna get out. But obviously like she ain't right because 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.719 of everything that went down, and like so for three 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.200 years she's been having phone sex with these people that 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.680 have been giving her money. One of these guys said 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.599 he has like a bank account with over two hundred 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.880 thousand dollars for her when she gets out. Well, this 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.120 is what I wanted to say about the criminal justice system. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.760 So this lady's in jail for killing her children, Like, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.880 how is she even having access to these men? Where 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.960 is she getting their their phone numbers? How she able 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:57.159 to call them? She's calling them on our dime as taxpayers. Right, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.920 all of these phone calls have been public information through 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.360 the prison that she's in. But like, how is she 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.320 even meeting people? That's what I want to know. I 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.320 would really like to do an external exam on like 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.640 relationships with people in prison, because as we see, this 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.280 is really common. I mean recently, Gypsy Rose Blanchard had 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.880 got married in prison. One of the Menendez brothers has 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:23.040 been married in prison. They get letters, Brian Coberger has fans, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.480 He gets letters, you know, like they get letters, they're 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.520 able to call. And this article that wrote up about 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.279 this woman's like a seemingly lucrative phone sex career for 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.880 the past three years. You know, all prison phone calls 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.720 are recorded, so they have recorded versions of all these 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.320 phone calls she's having with these people, and it was disturbing. Yeah, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.719 it's it's just weird. I just think, even if guys 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:50.960 are messaging her in prison, how come we're allowing her 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.280 to harry on relationships like that. It's just I don't 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.880 understand it. I feel like when you're in jail, it 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.400 should be like you're in jail, especially when you killed children, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.760 you just shouldn't have You shouldn't be allowed to like 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.960 do that. I don't know, you shouldn't be able to 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.600 make friends. Like I could see maybe being allowed to 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.680 talk to your mom or your family or whatever, but 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.880 like you shouldn't be able to be making new relationships 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.840 and being on the phone with people all day. It's 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.640 just I feel like you give up that right when 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.840 you kill your two kids and go to jail. It's just, yeah, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.880 I don't think it's necessary. I mean, there's definitely gonna 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.880 be an argument coming in about this that, like they're 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.000 humans and they have human rights, so they should be 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.080 I don't care, though, you give up your rights when 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.440 you do something. Time two human lives, so therefore you 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.640 should be stripped of some of your life and and 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.480 being in jail is not necessarily enough. So my biggest 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.920 argument is if she gets out, she's fifty two years old, Like, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.920 why isn't she considered a harm to society? Like what 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.960 makes what makes you think she's not going to do 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:55.520 something like this again? Well if that if she was 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.720 trying to kill her kids to start a new life 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.680 and stuff. I mean, she's she's not going to have 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.920 kids again. Maybe yeah, but what if she gets with 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.360 somebody that has kids and they're like getting in the way, 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.720 you know, Like I don't I don't trust this at all. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.720 I don't either. I just I just think there should 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.040 be a blanket rule like if you kill people in 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.280 this not like self defense or or a mental health 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.360 issue or whatever, but if you just kill people, you 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.080 go to jail for the rest of your life. End 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.760 a story Like why why do you get to have 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.920 a new life after this? I just it doesn't make 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.680 any sense to me. Yeah, I mean these two and 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.760 I said children are dead, Like she really doesn't seem 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.640 all that remorseful, if I'm being honest, Like nothing about 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.439 her does seems like she feels that bad about doing it, 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.240 so like, I don't know. I made a note in 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.080 the calendar though, because I think her hearing is like 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.720 November fourth, So I definitely want to follow up with this. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.760 I would be surprised if she got out, honestly, but 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.640 I mean knows, everything's crazy right now. So what exactly? 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.079 All right, let's get into celebrity news. So last week 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.480 we had talked about that camper that had died at 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.920 the you know, youth camp and Paris Hill and has 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.680 been in Congress a lot explaining her experience with these camps, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.000 and she's trying to get these bills passed that ban 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.600 them and make them illegal. Yeah, I mean, it's not 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:15.600 just a youth camp. It's called a residential treatment facility 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.080 for youth, which is just fancy words for saying that 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.480 if the kid is acting up and being bad, you 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.720 would send your kid to this camp. It's like something 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.320 your parents have always threatened you with, like sending you 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.120 to boarding school or something because you're bad. And she 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.040 was a teenager and was partying a lot at fifteen, right, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.280 she was drinking and partying and staying out all night. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.760 But I'm kind of like Okay, Well, when you're a 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.880 parent of a fifteen year old, like, that's kind of 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.480 your problem, it's not the kid's problem. Yeah, So like 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.520 what she to still talk to her parents? I don't know. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.520 So like her. She is a reality show called Paris 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.600 and Love and it's on Peacock, So like, I don't 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.400 think a lot of people are on top of that show. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.840 But it's actually one of my favorite reality shows ever 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.400 because when you watch her interact with her family, it's 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.320 not like this typical Bravo overproduced thing we're used to. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.120 It is so uncomfortable watching this family interact with each 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.720 other because they're so emotionally detached from one another, and 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.280 she is clearly trying to find answers like I wasn't 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.800 that bad? Why did I go to these camps? Or 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.000 like I was did you ever think I was acting out? 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.920 Because you know, I was raised by Nanni's and you 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.480 were barely in my life. And Kathy Hilton is just 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.800 totally when she brings it up, she just totally glazes 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.720 over it and blames her, which just like I know, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.640 so regeus, Like she not only went to this one, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.600 she went to four different camps. I think about like 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.920 a normal fifteen year old that's acting out is always 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.360 acting out for a reason. Yeah, so like and then 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.480 like she's still taught. Like I understand that the parents 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.000 don't know a lot about what's going on in these camps. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.720 I've heard interviews with with people that went to these camps, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.559 kids that are now adults that have went to these 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.440 camps that said how manipulative they were towards their parents. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.040 Even they would take the kids and then they would 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.360 call their parents and they would say, Hey, your kid 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.800 might call you and say that we're locking you in 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.000 a room and not letting you look out a window. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.560 So if they say that, just expect that that's going 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.439 to happen. But that's not really what's happening. So then 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.640 when the girl would call her dad and say that, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.640 the dad was like, yeah, they told me you were 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.920 going to say this, and I'm not coming to pick here, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.800 or somebody's monitoring the call, so they like can't be 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.400 honest about what's going on, because think about it. If 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.920 the person at the camp is watching your phone call 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.560 and you say, like they're hitting me, then there's going 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.640 to be retaliation afterwards, or they're not letting you call 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.280 your parents at all, or your parents think you're making 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.440 it up to go home. Yeah, So she went to 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.840 four different camps like this, and she was so abused there. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.320 I mean, when you're fifteen years old, you're still a 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.680 little you're a little kid still, even though you're a teenager, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.880 you're still child. And she was physically and sexually abused 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.679 to the point where she didn't even want to go 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.080 through a pregnancy and carry her own kid because she 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.320 was so traumatized from it, which I kind of believe her, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.600 Like she was saying that they didn't let her look 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.080 out a window for two years. No, this is the thing. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.160 What does that do to a person? This is also 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.680 why I don't think this show is so produced, because 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.640 like this is a really big part of her life, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.360 trying to get these this legislation passed. And whenever she 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.960 talks to her family about it, they get so massively 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.960 uncomfortable about it, and her mom's always like, you are 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.800 out of control. I don't know what you want to do. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.680 First of all, the girl was raised in a hotel 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.439 in New York City, Like nothing is normal about that. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.800 You're living in like a five star hotel. Your whole 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.120 life you're raised by nanny's, you're in one of the 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.480 wealthiest families in the country. Nothing was normal about her upbringing. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:51.200 Nobody's monitoring her behavior. What do you expect, Yeah, I 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.560 mean this is this is apparent issue. Yeah, so she's 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.559 going in my she's going to clubs at fifteen obviously 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.000 because nobody's watching her, and she's like acting out probably, 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.720 so then she gets kidnapped in the middle of the night. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.600 Brought to these schools, The worst one, in her opinion, 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.040 was this one in Provo, Utah, which I actually just 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.960 went through. Did you drive through there on the trip 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.800 and power? So the train went through Provo, And she's 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.200 explaining in her documentary that this school is like in 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.360 the middle of the rocky mountains, so like you can't 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.160 leave even if you try to run away, you're going nowhere. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.840 It takes hours to drive there from anywhere else. So 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.640 like if you leave, your risking dying in the wilderness 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.360 because there's like nowhere to go. So think about that. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.840 The whole problem here is money, because let me tell you, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.480 if I was a little kid, and I was a 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.360 little kid acting up right, my parents wouldn't have had 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.640 the money to send me to a place like this first, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.840 and second, like I wouldn't have had money to even 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.480 go to clubs or anything, because like when you don't 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.560 give your kids money and they don't have a job, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.480 then they can't even do stuff right, Like what do 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.040 you do when you have when your mom's giving you 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.360 twenty dollars for lunch for the entire week, Like you 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.640 can't go out and party and do things like that. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.320 So it's one hundred percent of parenting issue exactly. So 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.600 she went to Congress last week and was saying how 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.560 she was sexually abused there. She was force fed medication, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.320 she was ripped by her hair down hallway strip naked. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.280 You know, she had a really horrible experience and this 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.200 all led to her like persona. So she said, you know, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.120 we know her as this girl that speaks in a 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.040 really high voice and looks like a doll, and you know, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.440 people think it's really weird behavior. And when you hear 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.880 her real voice, she actually has a pretty deep voice 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.520 when she's talking naturally. And she has attributed that she 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.120 put on this persona because she was in so much 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.200 pain that she like basically had to force herself to 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.840 live in this alternate reality. To like forget what had 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.520 happened to her. Wait, so in the cause, I you 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.200 know how I chronically go through my phone with the 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.440 volume off. I did see that there were a couple 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.560 stories that said that people were shocked by her voice. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.760 Was she talking like in her regular voice in the hearing, Well, 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.880 I don't know what the hearing. Yeah, I think she 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.120 does at the hearing. But like when you watch her show, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.360 when she's talking to her husband, she's talking in like 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.160 her normal voice and to her sister and stuff. But 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.320 when she's like uncomfortable or doing an interview, yeah, like that, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.920 it's like it's like this trauma response. It's very interesting. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.200 And before she came public with all this a couple 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.160 of years ago, psychologists were coming out saying they thought 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.000 that something might have happened to her because it was 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.400 very unusual that she acted this way. So I'm interested 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.440 that people were kind of like on it but didn't 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.640 really know exactly what happened. Yeah, and she's she's only 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.240 forty three, so she's not that old that things were 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.400 different back then. You know that it just it wasn't no, So, like, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.920 I don't know, I've been like really keeping an eye 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.160 on this because their whole family dynamic is so beyond 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.760 fascinating to me, especially Kathy Hilton. And apparently this book 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.000 came out a while ago called House of Hilton that 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.400 like exposed all the family's like inner deepest secrets, and 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:59.080 they worked really hard to get that bookshelve so like 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.400 it's not that easy to find. I think people have 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.840 it on eBay, but it's like hundreds of dollars and 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.480 I kind of want to get my hands on them. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.120 Very interested in it. Yeah, I was thinking that's something 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.680 that's like right up your alley. Yeah. But basically, she's 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.320 trying to pass this thing called Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.640 So she's working really hard, like she is really taking 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.240 her experience and trying to make a difference, which I 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.480 can appreciate in the general celebrity culture, like they'll talk 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.120 about it but not really pursue any further action. She 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.320 is actively going to DC working with people to try 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.880 to get these bills passed. So you have to respect 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.240 that on some level. Oh I I do. I think 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.840 I think she's awesome for doing this because I wasn't 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.960 even really hip to it. But when we were talking 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.840 about this story weeks ago, I remember when with the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.200 kid in this camp, my first thought is like, this 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.960 is this is child abuse? Why is this not considered 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.800 anything else? Exactly. It's just so I'm glad because the 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.360 thing is she could use her star power and people 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.680 will actually listen to her. If this was just a 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.480 regular person, they wouldn't sitting in front of hundreds of 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.399 members of Congress and stuff being able to talk about this. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.399 So it's great, exactly. And I even saw with that 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.000 Netflix documentary that came out about another one of these 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.760 school systems. They did a hearing about that, and she like, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.480 she shows up if they ask her to be in 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.080 congressional hearings and everything, She's there, like she's not messing 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:23.720 around with it. So it's cool. All right, Let's get 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.840 on to the next door. This is like Kardashian level 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.840 obnoxious to me. We talk about Tory spelling. If we 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.120 talk about the celebrities that we always talk about who 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.639 are fucking annoying, it's definitely Kardashians. And then the step 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:42.920 below that is Tory spelling always she she actually had 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:47.920 another annoying article about something too that I completely forgot. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.639 I forget what it is right now, but there was 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.840 another article that I looked at and was just like, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.080 oh my god. So she has her own podcast, I guess, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.160 and she's talking about all this stuff. That's why. Yeah. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.120 So she has kids with I don't know if they're 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.080 like officially divorced, but I'm just I'll just say her 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.719 ex right, like they're broken up, her and her husband. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.680 So they have five kids. They range from seventeen years 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.000 old to seven years old. So she was on her 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.840 podcast last week talking about how she has two placentas 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.399 in her freezer, no idea which kids they're from, and 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.240 then she has another placenta of her youngest kid in 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.639 her best friend freezer. So her best friend has at 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.320 least the placenta of at least a seven year old, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.040 like a seven year old placenta, and then the other 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.280 two placentas are over a decade old. She's not sure 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.520 which two kids they're from. And it's great because she 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.000 apparently her friend has like politely been like, hey, can 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.760 you pick up this placenta. It's in my freezer and 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.359 it's disgusting, and she's like, oh, I'll come get it eventually, 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.320 but she never has gotten it. And she keeps saying 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.560 like they say it's good luck to eat a placenta, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.879 and it's healthy for you and this and that. I 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.240 love when people say they say, well, like who's who 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.280 says that? Who says your your Hollywood friends or whatever. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.720 So she hasn't gotten rid of it, and she but 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.959 she did say that she ate one of her kids placentas, right, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.520 kind of calling bullshit on this because she said, quote, 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.280 Dean's an amazing chef, Dean with her ex husband. So 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.560 I mean it was like a little truffle oil, little 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.439 salt and pepper. He cooked it and it was actually 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.320 really good. Like I just I just don't believe this. No, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.360 people do know. I know people eat it. I don't 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.360 believe she ate it. I just called bullshit on it. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.960 And is it also not so Hollywood to like open 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.760 your freezer and somebody be like what is that and 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:36.800 you're like, oh, it's Torri's placenta? Yeah, exactly. No, I 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.440 believe she did it. She's a total She's a total flake. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.959 I think that, you know, I'm way outspoken about this 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.880 whole eating the placenta thing. I know that all these 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.280 people say that there's health benefits, like it helps your 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.480 milk supply and it helps with postpartum depression. And I 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.800 just think it's total bullshit. It's cannibalism. And we're not cats, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.440 we're human beings. We're not supposed to eat our placenta, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.040 us to put it in a jar like I did. Well, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:03.800 a lot of people on that. Hold on here it 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.879 is guys. Check out the YouTube because this is a 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.400 crazy person. This is this is Lucia's plasa. I can't 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.560