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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. Hey, the Socials were popping

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Speaker 1: last night at Josh pat CFB Twitter instagrams. Make sure

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Speaker 1: thing in the world for the head coach at Ohio

437
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Speaker 1: State to be under a lot of pressure. If he's lost,

438
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Speaker 1: for in a road in Michigan, that's not.

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Speaker 2: A crazy thing.

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Speaker 1: If the fan base isn't doing their part, then it's

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Speaker 1: not fair. But they are doing their part. You got

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Speaker 1: to do your part as the head coach. But I

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Speaker 1: will say this, so last night, I know the rap

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Speaker 1: that a lot of Ohio State have gotten nationally. Maybe

445
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Speaker 1: I fed into that a little bit on this show.

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys, I am right with

447
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day's wife and family as we're walking down to

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Speaker 1: the field with time ticking down in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: So I'm walking right behind them. And the way you

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Speaker 1: get to the field at Ohio Stadium is you got

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Speaker 1: to go through the crowd, and so I'm walking right

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Speaker 1: behind them through the crowd, and I got to tell you,

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Speaker 1: there were probably dozens and dozens of interactions I watched

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Speaker 1: between fans, most of whom she didn't know, and her,

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Speaker 1: his wife and then his kids are behind her. All

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Speaker 1: of it was positive, and you know what it was.

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Speaker 1: It was relief, It was empathy, and it was just

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people saying, I'm so happy for you,

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Speaker 1: so happy for him, so proud. So you know, for

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Speaker 1: all the bad rap that those folks have gotten, it's

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Speaker 1: the loudest ones on the Internet that have earned that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying that the emotion was misplaced.

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Speaker 1: I get the emotion, but I do want to say

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Speaker 1: not everyone is foaming at the mouth right now.

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Speaker 2: If they're not.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was calling for Ryan Day's job if you were

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Speaker 1: to lose the game.

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Speaker 2: There were people doing that.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't going to happen if he lost the game,

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Speaker 1: but there were people doing that.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, now they're going to go play

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Speaker 2: Oregon again.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about that game a little bit later, but

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Speaker 1: this one was crazy to be at.

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Speaker 2: Crazy because it was over very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: As it turns out, and then it was like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was like a two and a half hour validation celebration,

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Speaker 1: if you will. Now, I do want to say this,

479
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Speaker 1: Tennessee folks rolled really deep into this thing. There were

480
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Speaker 1: a ton of Tennessee people there last night. And I

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Speaker 1: posted it in the pregame cause I'm sitting there, I'm

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Speaker 1: on the field and I'm in the press box and

483
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Speaker 1: I can see it, and I said, hey, the Tennessee

484
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Speaker 1: takeover was real.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think some people misconstrued.

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Speaker 1: That to mean I was picking Tennessee to win, or

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Speaker 1: that I was talking about the game and the way

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Speaker 1: it was going to go. No, I was talking about

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Speaker 1: the amount of Tennessee folks in the crowd. Most of

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Speaker 1: them spilled out long before the end of regulation. But

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Speaker 1: some of you were trying to whitewash history on me

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Speaker 1: today and say, oh, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did happen.

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Speaker 1: They had like thirty thousand people in the stands last

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Speaker 1: night and they were loud in the pregame. So credit

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Speaker 1: to them. Credit to them, And I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: got home safely last night. You got a head start

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Speaker 1: on the traffic. But forty two to seventeen, and dare

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Speaker 1: I say the game wasn't even as close as the

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Speaker 1: final score indicator that I think could have been fifty

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Speaker 1: to nothing. So congratulations to Ohio State. Much more to

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Speaker 1: death last night if it's not for our friends at

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Speaker 1: I know you do because you were watching or listening

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Speaker 1: Some of you are still alive, Ohio State folks are

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Speaker 1: still alive. You can go buy tailgating gear Christmas. Just

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Speaker 1: lot to get to a lot, to get to a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks in the live chat Lively Live chat

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Speaker 1: tonight is live.

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Speaker 2: The root word of lively. Hoopst can say.

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Speaker 1: Texas disposed of Clemson in what ended up being kind

533
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Speaker 1: of the most competitive game in the first round. Thirty

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Speaker 1: eight to twenty four is the final. Really proud of

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Speaker 1: myself in this game, not because I picked the winner.

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Speaker 1: I think most people picked Texas, but the model did

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Speaker 1: nail it down to the number.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not talking about that.

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Speaker 1: I did not tweet out anything about the pucker factor

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Speaker 1: in this game. And anyone who has followed me on

541
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Speaker 1: the Old Socials lately knows that I humiliated myself in

542
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Speaker 1: the Indiana Ohio State game recently. Indiana starts the game

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Speaker 1: like Clemson did against Texas, they go down the field,

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Speaker 1: they score on their opening drive, and there's that point

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Speaker 1: in time where you look to your left, you look

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Speaker 1: to your right, and you say, could it happen? Well,

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Speaker 1: for Indiana it did not. The door got slammed in

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Speaker 1: their face yesterday. For Clemson it also did not. As

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Speaker 1: it turns out, that touchdown drive to open the game

550
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Speaker 1: was about as close as they were ever going to get. Now,

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Speaker 1: this got close in the fourth quarter, yes, but it

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Speaker 1: was also thirty one to seven between those points.

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Speaker 2: So I I want to tell you something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone had money on the total

555
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Speaker 1: in this game, but for a game to have five

556
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Speaker 1: turnovers on down in opponent territory and still go over,

557
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Speaker 1: there're a lot offense in this game. I think it

558
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Speaker 1: was a really cerebral game plan by Texas, and cerebral

559
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Speaker 1: meaning they identified sort of a one percent, they identified

560
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Speaker 1: a short thing, and that sure thing was we can

561
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Speaker 1: man handle Clemson upfront defensively, and they did that.

562
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Speaker 2: Had two hundred and ninety two rushing yards Texas did.

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Speaker 1: Clemson had seventy six Texas has thirty eight points and

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Speaker 1: they go one to four on fourth down. Like you

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Speaker 1: look at thirty eight and you say that's a good,

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Speaker 1: solid number. I look at it and say that could

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Speaker 1: have been half a hundred easily if they convert on

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Speaker 1: short yardage. You know, short yardage was a problem that

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Speaker 1: we foresaw for Clemson as soon as they are not Clemson,

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Speaker 1: for Texas, as soon as they had their injuries in

571
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Speaker 1: the spring or not spring, in the fall camp period.

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Speaker 1: One of the first things I came on the show

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Speaker 1: the next week and said is watch Texas and short

574
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Speaker 1: yardage situations this year. They've lost two tailbacks. That's where

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Speaker 1: it could hurt them. Well, they've been okay, but you know, situationally,

576
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Speaker 1: that's still something that's been.

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Speaker 2: A problem for them.

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Speaker 1: It was a problem against Clemson that didn't cost them

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Speaker 1: the game, so it doesn't matter. But it's just something

580
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Speaker 1: to watch moving forward. But the hidden padlocks that here

581
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: is Texas covered all of it up cause of what

582
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Speaker 1: they did when they got down to the red zone.

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Speaker 1: And this has been a problem for them some but

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Speaker 1: not yesterday. They get down to the red zone, they

585
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Speaker 1: go four or five for twenty four points down there,

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Speaker 1: Clemson did not, So they won decisively in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: and you know what.

588
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Speaker 2: They took a really good shot from Clemson.

589
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Speaker 1: In many ways, Kid Klubnick probably played as good as

590
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Speaker 1: I've seen him play. So the reason I mentioned that

591
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Speaker 1: is there may have been some people who saw portions

592
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Speaker 1: of this game, or you go watched the condensed version,

593
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Speaker 1: or you just look at the final score and you

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Speaker 1: think thirty eight twenty four, it's about what I expected. Well,

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Speaker 1: if I were to have told you Friday that Klubnick

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Speaker 1: was going to throw for three thirty six, TJ Moore

597
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Speaker 1: was going to go off nine catches one sixteen, Like,

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Speaker 1: if I told you that, you would have thought all

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Speaker 1: Dabbo's about to find the magic that they may go

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Speaker 1: in there and win. Because Texas Texas offensively like has

601
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Speaker 1: not clicked. They've been winning games but not scoring a

602
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Speaker 1: ton to win them. So if if they're not going

603
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Speaker 1: to be able to win defensively, if they're not going

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Speaker 1: to shut Clemson down, they could be in trouble. They

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Speaker 1: still won by two touchdowns, and I really think they

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Speaker 1: took Clemson's fastball. Here more on Clemson in a second.

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Speaker 2: So I've been in kind of.

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Speaker 1: A trust, but verify attitude on Texas defensively trust meaning

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Speaker 1: I think they're really good.

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Speaker 2: I think they're really good.

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Speaker 1: But it's the same way we talk about some of

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Speaker 1: these teams when they have an inferior strength of schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think you're good, but have you proven it to me?

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Speaker 1: Which is not a negative, it's not a pejorative, it's

615
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Speaker 1: just I need you to prove it to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, with Texas's.

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Speaker 1: Past defense, I think they're really good. They haven't faced

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Speaker 1: a murderer's row of quarterbacks that could have proven it.

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Speaker 1: So club Nick faces him yesterday and Clubnik throws for

620
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Speaker 1: three thirty six. What am I supposed to make of that?

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Speaker 1: You lost the game, so you don't get credit for it.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm looking at Texas and I know that

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Speaker 1: they potentially they got Arizona State coming up, and if

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Speaker 1: they win that game, they're gonna play either Oregon or

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. So I do believe Dylan Gabriel is capable

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Speaker 1: of doing whatever Kay Clubnick did. I do believe, especially

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Speaker 1: given what I witnessed last night in Columbus, Will Howard

628
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Speaker 1: is capable of doing anything that Kay Clubnick did. And

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Speaker 1: they're a better team than Clemson, no matter which one

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Speaker 1: of them you face, and that's if you get through

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Speaker 1: Arizona State. So again, just something to tuck in your

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Speaker 1: back pocket. Also of note is a lot of that

633
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Speaker 1: statistical profile was stacked up after they were already down thirty.

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Speaker 2: One to seven.

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Speaker 1: So I understand how this sport works. I understand defensively

636
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: you're giving a little bit different look when you're up.

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Speaker 1: How many scores that is? How should I feel as

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Speaker 1: a Clemson fan?

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Speaker 2: Though? So Texas fan? I took care of business. I'm

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Speaker 2: moving on.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Atlanta again to play Arizona State. I'm

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00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: good to go. I feel okay. How should I feel

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Speaker 1: if I'm a Clemson fan here? I ended up winning

644
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: the ACC championship. I knew I was a flawed team.

645
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: This was not vintage Clemson. And so I go into

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Speaker 1: Austin against Texas, I'm a double digit underdog. I lose

647
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Speaker 1: by roughly what the point spread was season over.

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Speaker 2: How should I feel about that? How do you guys

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Speaker 2: feel about it?

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Speaker 1: Most of you probably aren't watching the show, but when

651
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Speaker 1: you come around, I'll give you time. But when you

652
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Speaker 1: come around, you watch the show. How are you feeling

653
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Speaker 1: about your program right now, because I think I would

654
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Speaker 1: look at it and I would say, we got to

655
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: be careful not to slip ourselves back into second and

656
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: third tier thinking, because once you've been a premier program,

657
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: you should never settle for anything less. And Clemson was

658
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: a premier program in the twenty teens and they're not.

659
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: They're a second tier program right now, still better than most,

660
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: but it's very clear there's an echelon above and beyond

661
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: where Clemson hangs out right now, where the big boys

662
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: hang out, which is why I kept asking this year,

663
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: is Clemson still a big game program? They can't match

664
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: up with these teams right now. So the way I

665
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: would feel is you don't yell and kick and scream

666
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: when you win ten games, when you win your conference,

667
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: you had a good year. Good being the enemy of

668
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: great is what I just worry about a little bit.

669
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it with Dabbo per se, and

670
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: he has delved into the portal a little bit here recently,

671
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe it'll turn around. There were some

672
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: positive signs here. A lot of those young guys are

673
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: bad club nick I expect will be back. So there's

674
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: there's some things to build off of. But do I

675
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: look at my roster and think, all right, we're coming

676
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: up on a period where man for man, we'll be

677
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: able to match the Georgia's of the world. We'll be

678
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: able to match the Texases of the world. Think about

679
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: how they book into their season. They started with Georgia,

680
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: it got crushed. They finished with Texas. They were down

681
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: thirty one to seven, they got be thirty eight to

682
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: twenty four.

683
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean they got man.

684
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Handled up front. Texas did some Texas did some things

685
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: of them upfront that if they did it on the street,

686
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be available for the rest of the postseason

687
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: because they'd be behind bars. This was about the game

688
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I expected probably a little bit better from Clemson than

689
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: I expected. But I'm telling you I think Texas still

690
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: has to level up another notch offensively. I know this

691
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: looks good on paper. I know they could have scored

692
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: even more than that. I think the dirty secret about

693
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Clemson all year that got exposed again yesterday is they're

694
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: not good defensively. They can be had up front. You

695
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: run for two ninety two on somebody, it's pretty clear

696
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: they are not vintage themselves. And also, you know Clemson

697
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: gave up explosive plays all year. It's just that Tiger

698
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Paw defensively has been down a notch lately. And so

699
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned that not to rain on them, but you know,

700
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: Texas beat them. But if Texas gets down the road

701
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: and they face a Georgia again, or they face Ohio

702
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: State's defense and they clamp down, is there a gear

703
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: that you can hit offensively? Can you go get twenty

704
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: seven points thirty points if you need to.

705
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Against the Ohio State?

706
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Can you do that against Georgia if you face them

707
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: again and then hold them under that?

708
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

709
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: I got Texas in the National Championship game. So it's

710
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: not that I doubt them. Well, I trust them, but

711
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: I need to verify.

712
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: That's where I am.

713
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: Quick trip trust. I've verified, I've got everything. I've got

714
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: every bit of information I need on quick Trip. They

715
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: fueled the whole New Saturday tour all year. Also was

716
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: able to stop by a quick Trip on the way

717
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: to and from Columbus. Do you realize I drove Jesse.

718
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: I told you that right. I drove up to Columbus Friday.

719
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: That's five and a half hours, kids, and then I

720
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: left the stadium last night, and I had a hotel.

721
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: But sometimes what happens is I'll walk out of these

722
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: venues and I'll say to myself self, you got a

723
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: lot of adrenaline going right now. You're gonna be dead

724
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: tired in the morning. It's only five and a half hours.

725
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: Just suck it up, get on the road, go. And

726
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: I did that, and it was a challenge. I'm not

727
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna say, it's the hardest thing I've ever had to

728
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: do in my life. It's probably the hardest thing I've

729
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: done in the month of December twenty twenty four. So

730
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: I made it home thankfully, quick trip there in a

731
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: pinch to help me out, and they can help you

732
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: out as well, And they've helped us out all year,

733
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: and we really appreciate them fueling the whole show. Really,

734
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: not just the whole New Saturday tour. I've been fueling

735
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: the whole show. Okay, I got some more more games

736
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: to talk about here. Had to apply some lipbomb. I'm sorry,

737
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: Penn State. I mean, what can I say? They handled

738
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: SMU pretty thoroughly thirty eight to ten. There's no need

739
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: to overthink.

740
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: The room here.

741
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: I was listening to a breakdown on this game, and

742
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: they were breaking down like statistical profiles offensively and I'm like,

743
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: they got two pick sixtes in the first half.

744
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Game over, that's it.

745
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: SMU looked miserable as I would if I were in

746
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: that environment game over home field weather personnel. SMU had

747
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: no shot in this game. Notice I did not say

748
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: SMU didn't belong in the game. I said SMU had

749
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: no shot in the game. You know, it could be

750
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: that you were where you were supposed to be, but

751
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: you had no shot of winning. That is possible. I'll

752
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: talk about that later. Penn State has a water slide

753
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: to the semi finals. You remember someone said that. I

754
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: believe it was me, and that's not breaking news. Anyone

755
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: who looked at the bracket understood, wow, Penn State got

756
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: a pretty favorable draw. I just set it out loud

757
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: because they had me over on CBS doing some hits

758
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: and I said, well, kind of idiot doesn't think this.

759
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: That's rude. I'm sorry. If you didn't think it, you're

760
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: not an idiot. I thought it was common sense that

761
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: if you're the sixth seed, you lost your conference title

762
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: game and your draw is SMU and Boise, it gets

763
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: no more favorable. Now, you could lose one of the

764
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: games and that's on you, but it gets no more favorable.

765
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: So I got called disrespectful by a by quite a

766
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: few people who deleted tweets yesterday about halftime of this game.

767
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: But that's okay. I don't get that benefit, but that's okay.

768
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: So then they're gonna go play Bois and I'm gonna

769
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: say the same thing later about that game, and if

770
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: they lose it, it's on them. But I still think

771
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: it is the most favorable draw out of any of

772
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: these teams that Penn State had. But they still had

773
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: to go win the game, and they did, and you

774
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: know what, they won the game.

775
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at the stat categories on here Penn.

776
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if I were to tell you Friday Drew

777
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: Eiler is only going to throw for one to twenty seven,

778
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: that would be an uh oh. If I were to

779
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: tell you Tyler Warren is only going to have thirty

780
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: three receiving yards, I'm concerned about that. They're only going

781
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: to have one explosive pass in the entire game. That's

782
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: not good.

783
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: And yet they're up twenty eight to nothing in the

784
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: half anyway, So SMU.

785
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: Should they have been here? That's all I heard people

786
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: talk about yesterday. They talked about it in the broadcast.

787
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: Should SMU have been here? Yeah, they should have been there.

788
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: But Josh, they got blown out. I know I saw

789
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: the game just like you did. What's your point, Well,

790
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: my point is if they got blown out, they shouldn't

791
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: have been here.

792
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: Since when.

793
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: Who would you put there in their place? Like, who's

794
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be there? Oh, by the way, were you

795
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: on record as saying they shouldn't have been there.

796
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: Before the game happened? Now some of you were.

797
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: As I said the other day, if you were on

798
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: record as saying they put the wrong teams in before

799
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: the tournament started, then I may disagree with you, and

800
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: I do, but that's okay.

801
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: I'll respect that.

802
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: What I will not respect is you're silent when the

803
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: field gets set and you wait to watch the games happen.

804
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Then you say O wrong team was in. No, No,

805
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: that's not how that works. SMU had happened to them?

806
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: What will continue to happen and what has happened even

807
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: in the four team era since the dawn of the

808
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: playoff They got blown out in the first round.

809
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they weren't deserving of the spot.

810
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: Well, they weren't one of the best teams, Josh, Well

811
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: are we putting best in? Are we putting most deserving?

812
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: We'll get into that a little bit later on. I've

813
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: got several thoughts on that. I mean, there's some really

814
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: crooked logic being thrown around out there about this playoff.

815
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Right now, all I'm saying is you gotta judge SMU fairly.

816
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm not let me tell you how I look at him.

817
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: You can look at them however you like.

818
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: I look at SMU, I look at what Rhet Lashley's done.

819
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: I do not judge them on the same scale as

820
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I judge Kirby and Georgia. And I'm gonna tell you why.

821
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: One of them's Georgia and it's Powerhouse, and the other

822
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: one's SMU. And when Rhet Lashley walked in, he had

823
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: a G five caliber roster on his hands, and to

824
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: a great degree he still does. This is their first

825
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: year in the ACC, mind you. And did they have

826
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: a favorable schedule? Of course they did, of course. But

827
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Up until five minutes ago, having SMU

828
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: on your schedule was part of what made your schedule favorable?

829
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Did we did we forget that? It's like all of

830
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: a sudden they get in contention this year and you

831
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: recalibrate the scale.

832
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: What you should be saying is due.

833
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: It's a miracle they were even in the conversation, Like,

834
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: huge standing ovation for Rhet Lashley for even having the

835
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: team there to begin with. It's wild that they're even

836
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: in the conversation. That's a properly calibrated approach to judging

837
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: SMU this year. But since they got sucked into the

838
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: playoff vortex where there's no room for nuance, there's no

839
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: room for logic based thinking, it's just frauds, overrated, exposed,

840
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Like what is that really the way you want to

841
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: live your life?

842
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: Is that where you want to be when Jesus comes back?

843
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: Colin SMU a fraud? I don't think so.

844
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Remember this, James Franklin was made for this format. We

845
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: said this in the spring. I think everyone said in

846
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: the spring and the summer and the fall, James Franklin

847
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: and Penn State could benefit more from a twelve team

848
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: playoff than anybody else out there because there was no

849
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: head coach and there was no program in recent history

850
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: of college football that had been just on the outside

851
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: looking in more consistently than James Franklin and Penn State.

852
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: They were once again just on the outside looking in

853
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: this year as it relates to the old model. But

854
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: now we've got the new model. So they got in,

855
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: then they got a favorable draw. So not only does

856
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: the new model benefit Penn State, it disproportionately benefits Penn State.

857
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm going to continue to say James

858
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: Franklin's got immense pressure on himself in this playoff. It'd

859
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: be one thing if they had Ohio State's draw and

860
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: they got Tennessee and then they were gonna go play Oregon,

861
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: because I don't think anybody like me would be sitting

862
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: there saying, boy, they got a water slide at the

863
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: semi final. But that's not their draw. Their draws two

864
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: teams they outclass physically. They outclass Boise just as well

865
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: as they outclassed.

866
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: SMU spoiler alert there.

867
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: So that means you got to go win both those games.

868
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: Like Penn State's a failure this year if they're not

869
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: at least in the semi finals or yeh final whatever.

870
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: I get mixed up with this quarterfinals semi finals. Yeah,

871
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: they got to be in the semifinals, like, they got

872
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: to make it there for this to have been a

873
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: successful season. Also, remember this, they've won every kind of

874
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: game now. They've won rock fights, they've won shootouts, they've

875
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: had to run the ball, they've had to throw the ball,

876
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: they've had to play defense.

877
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Defense has won them games.

878
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: So a lot of times when we get to the

879
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: end of the year, the team or teams that are

880
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: left standing are the teams that have figured out to

881
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: the way to win multiple different styles of games. Penn

882
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: State's done. That doesn't guarantee anything, but Penn State's done that.

883
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on here. And by the way,

884
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure that skip that. Yeah, okay,

885
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: So the Notre Dame Indiana game happened Friday night, and

886
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: since I was already in my hotel in Columbus, I figured.

887
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: Would just go ahead and do the reaction to that

888
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: one on Friday night.

889
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: So if you want to watch that video and a

890
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: ton of you have, that's on the channel, wait until

891
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: the show's over. But that's already on the channel. That's

892
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: why it's not in tonight's show. So didn't forget it.

893
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: Not a Notre Dame hater. We already we already gave

894
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: that its own specialized Friday night Columbus, Ohio hotel room treatment,

895
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: which normally means something a lot more scandalous, but in

896
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: this case, it just means we recapped a college football game.

897
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: Oh hey, Management left some of his water here, Colin,

898
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: look at that. I don't want to I don't want

899
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: to promote a company that doesn't pay to advertise with us.

900
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: But suffice to say, folks listening on the podcast, it's

901
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: the kind of water in the square bottle that's management water.

902
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: Not tonight though, because we stole it from his fridge. Wow. Wow,

903
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: huh how the privileged live? Huh?

904
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just go ahead and tackle this. I got

905
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: some stuff on the portal coming up. I've got thoughts

906
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: on all these first round or second round games coming up.

907
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: So we got a metric ton left in the show.

908
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Really happy you guys are here. We were about to

909
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: go through a topic that's going to make some people angry,

910
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: but also you may find yourself angry one minute and

911
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: agreeing the next minute. This is complex, Colin, here's your endpoint.

912
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: College football playoff Round one in the books. Everybody's got thoughts.

913
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Everybody seemed to be up in arms about something this weekend.

914
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: You were either mad about the playoff or you were

915
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: mad about somebody being mad about the playoff. So a

916
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are upset. So I want to do

917
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: a couple of things with you. Number one, I want

918
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: to tell you where I'm coming from on this, and

919
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: then I want to ask you where you're coming from.

920
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: That is the key on the whole playoff topic. Whether

921
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about which team should be in versus which

922
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: ones should have been left out, whether you're talking about

923
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: how big the field should be, whether you're talking about

924
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: which kinds of teams should get home field and or

925
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: a bye in the first round. All of these things

926
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: are being debated. Here's what I need to know, Where

927
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: are you coming from? It is impossible to have a

928
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: debate on this stuff or either a logic based conversation

929
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: on this stuff until I know the answer to that question.

930
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: You got to tell me, just like I've got to

931
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: tell you where are you coming from? What I mean

932
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: by that is when I ask you where are you

933
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: coming from? I want to know the answer to one question.

934
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I wrote it down right here, what is the purpose

935
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: of a playoff? I'm pausing. I'm letting you think about it.

936
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: What is the purpose of a playoff? With that in mind, Colin,

937
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: can you show me the tweet I put out yesterday?

938
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: So as the SMU Penn State game is going the

939
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: way it's going, I put out this tweet and it

940
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: says anyone who believed a Cinderella could ever exist in

941
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: college football was ignoring reality. A lot of people had

942
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: a lot of different reactions to this. I was replying

943
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: to some statements that were being made towards me, and

944
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: the statements were, you seem to have a big problem

945
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: with SMU getting a shot. You seem to have a

946
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: problem with Boise State getting a shot. And I replied,

947
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: they don't have a shot. And then I got that

948
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: shot back at me, Well what do you mean they

949
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: don't have a shot. They're in the playoff? And at

950
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: that point I realized, oh, we're coming from different places.

951
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: So so pause again and ask the question, what is

952
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: the purpose of a playoff? Because if you look at

953
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: Boise being in, and you look at SMU being in

954
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: and saying good for them, they got a shot, I

955
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: look at them and I say they have no shot.

956
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to answer my question for you. I asked

957
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: the question, where are you coming from on the playoff?

958
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: I ask what is the purpose of a playoff? To me,

959
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: the purpose of a playoff is to crown a national champion.

960
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: Everything about the playoff or a tournament, or whatever you

961
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: want to call it, is about.

962
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Crowning a national champion.

963
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: And it's not about inclusion, and it's not about just

964
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: whether you make it, and it's not about the journey

965
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: mattering more than the destination. Screw all that. I don't

966
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: believe in all that. I think it's a waste of

967
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: time to talk like that. I'm just giving you my perspective.

968
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Some of you are going to disagree with this. That's

969
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: why we need to know where each other is coming

970
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: from before we can have the debate. So to be

971
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: very clear, when I look at a Boise State and

972
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: a tournament like this, it makes no sense because Boise

973
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: has no shot of winning this, nor do a lot

974
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: of teams that are going to be in at any

975
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: given year.

976
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: The bigger the field gets.

977
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: See, my perspective was always we don't even have four

978
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: teams most years capable of winning a championship. And since

979
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: a playoff is solely about crowning a champion to people

980
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: like me, I don't need it to be any bigger

981
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: a field than it already had been. Well, the first

982
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: round happened yesterday, and we had a bunch of blowouts.

983
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: And so everyone gets up in arms.

984
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Oh, I wasn't entertained, some people said, or or that

985
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: proves that these teams shouldn't have been in. Well, it

986
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: didn't prove they shouldn't have been in at all. The

987
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: right teams were in. You may not expect to hear

988
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: that from me, but the right teams were in. If

989
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: I was on the committee and I was tasked with

990
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do, I would have had

991
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: Indiana in. I would have had SMUN. I would not

992
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 1: have had Alabama in. I would not have had South

993
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Carolina in. I would not have had Miami in. I

994
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: would not have had Ole miss in. The right twelve

995
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: teams were in the field, in my opinion, But in

996
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: the blowouts are inevitable guys. Just like they were inevitable

997
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: in the four team field, they are super inevitable maybe

998
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: in multiple rounds now in the twelve team field. So

999
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: yesterday I'm pointing this out, I'm saying a lot of

1000
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: your college football's utopian world views are getting shattered right now,

1001
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: and you're really having trouble coping with it because there

1002
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: are many many people out there who truly believed if

1003
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: we expand this and we let a boyse get a shot,

1004
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: they could win a national championship. It's garbage. No, they can't.

1005
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: Ten times out of ten. This is not basketball, this

1006
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: is not Disney. This is football. People get to put

1007
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: their hands on you and physically impose their will on you.

1008
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: And there are too many teams that are deeper, bigger, faster,

1009
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: and stronger, and you don't have to play one of them.

1010
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: You got to play three or four of them. You

1011
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: will never string together a run that ends in a

1012
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: Cinderella moment. And to be clear, when I say Cinderella moment,

1013
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't mean pulling an upset like if Boise beats

1014
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Penn State in the field the ball, That's not what

1015
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

1016
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

1017
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Boise beaten Penn State and then beaten Georgia and then

1018
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: beaten Texas or Oregon or Ohio State. That's a Cinderella moment.

1019
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: It will never happen in college football never. Actually, the

1020
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: closest will come to a cinderella moment is that team

1021
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: right there, That team right there, Ohio State. That's who

1022
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: this format leaves the back door open for. In the

1023
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: previous version of the format, Ohio State's out, one of

1024
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: the best teams in the country, but because they lost

1025
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: to Oregon and then they lost to Michigan, they're out.

1026
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: But now they're not. They're in. And they were an

1027
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: eight seed, but they're in the playoff. That's your cinderella.

1028
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: It was always gonna be that way. You leave the

1029
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: back door open for more flawed Big ten teams or

1030
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: flawed SEC teams, and they're gonna make a run.

1031
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: Now.

1032
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want that format, to be very clear, I

1033
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: thought four was enough. I would have been happy sitting

1034
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: with the BCS model back in the day because I

1035
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: don't really I don't care care about postseason as much

1036
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: as I care about the regular season. But the blowouts

1037
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: are happening yesterday, and I point out, guys, this is

1038
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: what you asked for.

1039
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: A lot of you.

1040
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: Wanted the expansion, and that's what you signed up for,

1041
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: and that's okay. I'm going along with it. But you

1042
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: shouldn't be shocked by this, and it doesn't mean the

1043
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: wrong teams we're in. It just means we will never

1044
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: have a year where twelve teams are capable of legitimately

1045
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: competing for a national championship. So it's all a mirage.

1046
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: You have to suspend disbelief. Like watching a pro wrestling match.

1047
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: You have to willingly put aside the idea that you

1048
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: know it's scripted in this playoff. For it to work,

1049
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: you have to put aside the idea that there is

1050
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: a truth deep down inside of most of you who

1051
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: have watched this sport for a while, who understand an

1052
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: SMU is not winning the national title. Boys, he's not

1053
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: winning the national title. Indiana's not winning the national title. Now,

1054
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: that's where we separate into two camps. One camp just

1055
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: says that, and that's their argument.

1056
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: That's me. I'm in that camp.

1057
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: There's another camp that says, well, that's okay though, because

1058
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: at least they had a shot, which they don't if

1059
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: we define shot as having a chance to win a title,

1060
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: because they don't have that. But also, there is like

1061
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: a subset of that camp that truly believes just making

1062
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: the playoff is CAUs for celebration, just making the playoff

1063
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: and the journey and the meaning quote unquote that it

1064
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: puts on more games, as if college football games didn't

1065
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: mean anything before the playoff was created, that justifies the

1066
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: expanded playoff. I simply disagree. I think that's a garbage mentality.

1067
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: So that's where we differ there. So I had people

1068
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: yelling at me yesterday, Well, Josh, we had blowouts in

1069
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: the four team playoff, so there's nothing different. You're making

1070
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: my point and you don't realize it. My point was,

1071
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: why would we expand a tournament that was already too big?

1072
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: Four spots were too many, routinely, routinely, the first round

1073
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: showed us that we had blowouts even when we just

1074
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: put four teams in there. That was the entire point

1075
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: that someone like me made when I said, why are

1076
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: we expanding this? But I got shouted down and that's okay.

1077
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: So that's one part. Okay, then the next part. And

1078
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're watching, even if I've said

1079
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: something you disagree with, that's okay. I'm happy to hear

1080
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: your point of view. Make sure you're subscribe to the

1081
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Speaker 1: channel we do college football. That's all we do. I

1082
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: never I never copy and paste this over to the

1083
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: NBA or Major League Baseball's just college football here year round,

1084
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: and if you subscribe, it helps us. It doesn't do

1085
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: anything for you, doesn't sign you up for anything, but

1086
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: it helps us.

1087
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: So I appreciate it if you would do that. Colin,

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00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: do we have the fine bomb tweet?

1089
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: Okay, So yesterday I get to Ohio Stadium and Paul

1090
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: Finebaumb has fired this tweet off earlier in the morning,

1091
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: and boy, there was a lot being said about this.

1092
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read it for you. If you haven't

1093
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: seen it, don't want to get your feel on it.

1094
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: Paul Finebaum, friend of the show. By the way, Paul

1095
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: finebamb tweets out. So far, the college football player Selection

1096
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: Committee has given us some blockbusters. Notre Dame led late

1097
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: over Indiana twenty seven to three, and Penn State just

1098
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: went up on the committee's final team twenty eight to

1099
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: nothing at the half. Take a bow dripping with sarcasm,

1100
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: mind you, And what he's saying there is basically because

1101
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: these games are blowouts. I guess the insinuation is the

1102
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: committee didn't do a good job.

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?

1104
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Before I tell you how I feel, I want to

1105
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: know how you feel about that. Did you feel when

1106
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: you were watching the first round that because there were

1107
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: a bunch of blowouts, the committee did a bad job.

1108
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: I didn't, so I want to know if you feel

1109
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: that way.

1110
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Now.

1111
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: This may surprise you because I was against expansion to

1112
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: begin with, and I put out power ratings every week

1113
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: and teams like SMU bring him young early in the

1114
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: season Boise, they were never really in my top twelve.

1115
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: So you may think i'd agree with that.

1116
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that because how I power rate

1117
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: teams should never coincide with how playoff is seeded. I've

1118
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: always told you that power ratings and rankings are totally

1119
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: different things. I thought the right teams were in the tournament.

1120
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: I said that the day of the selection. I said

1121
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: SMU got in over Alabama. They should have in my opinion,

1122
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: it was close, but they should have gotten in. Got

1123
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: no problem with it. Indiana's still in weak, strength of schedule,

1124
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: flawed team, but you know what, it's a flawed year,

1125
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: and so I thought that there was an excuse to

1126
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: put them in. Had no problem with it. I had

1127
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: no gripes with any of the teams in there. So

1128
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm on record of saying that, then the first round

1129
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: happens and teams.

1130
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: Get blown out.

1131
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: I expected that, So that wasn't a big surprise to me,

1132
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: but apparently it was a surprise to a lot of people.

1133
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: And many of you echoed the sentiment of Paul and

1134
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: you said, see this right, here's evidence that so and

1135
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: so should have been in.

1136
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

1137
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: And I am a believer that Alabama would have performed

1138
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: much better than a couple of those teams would have.

1139
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm a believer old miss flat out would have gone

1140
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: into South Ben and won. I think that I'll never

1141
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: be able to prove it, So who cares?

1142
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 2: Right?

1143
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: But I think that it's irrelevant because they didn't belong

1144
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: in to begin with, because they didn't earn their weight

1145
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: in based on the criteria that the committee is supposed

1146
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: to select off of. Now, if you think the criteria

1147
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: should change, okay, hey, I may agree with you, But

1148
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: the criteria is the criteria, and it doesn't exist in

1149
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: a vacuum. Everyone played by those rules this year, and

1150
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: the teams that, in my opinion, should have been in.

1151
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: The tournament or in the tournament. But here's the thing.

1152
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: There's a big difference in you know, when you complain,

1153
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: like if you're of the opinion that the first round

1154
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: being blowouts was indicative of or it was an indication

1155
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: the first round's full of a bunch of blowout so

1156
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: it's an indication that the committee did a bad job.

1157
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: That's the difference in a selection committee in a production company.

1158
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: And I had to say this to a couple of

1159
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: my buddies yesterday because I really don't think that they

1160
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: distinguish between the two. If I'm watching a Netflix special

1161
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: and I don't like that there are so many plot

1162
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: holes in this series, well I'm gonna criticize because that

1163
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: is a production It is made for entertainment purposes, and

1164
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: that production company, that writing team, they screwed up. That's

1165
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: a very very valid take to have. This is competitive sports.

1166
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: A selection committee is not writing the script for the

1167
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: playoff for you. The selection committee is given a list

1168
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: of criteria, and based off that they put the teams

1169
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: in that they feel the most deserving, and then they

1170
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: go play. And in a game where we have vast

1171
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: disparity in styles of teams, in quality of roster, we

1172
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: score in threes and sevens the balls shaped very funny,

1173
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: and these venues house one hundred plus thousand people. And

1174
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: when it's twenty five degrees and they're screaming, it's tough

1175
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: to play. You're gonna have some blowouts, you absolutely are.

1176
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they got it wrong. It doesn't mean

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00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: anything's wrong per se. It's just kind of like this

1178
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: on demand mentality, which I can slip into as well.

1179
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: So I've been guilty of this, but there's this on

1180
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: demand mentality of in the modern age. If everything I'm

1181
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: ingesting is not perfectly in alignment with what I want,

1182
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: something's wrong. It's not always the case, guys, especially in sports,

1183
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: which brings me to my next point, the.

1184
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: Spirit of competition. What does it mean to you?

1185
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I am asking a bunch of questions here intentionally because

1186
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: it's my understanding at this point. We don't agree on

1187
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: all this. We got many, many different schools of thought.

1188
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying any of them are wrong, they're

1189
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: just different.

1190
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: But it is important for me to.

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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Know where you're coming from, and I tell you where

1192
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm coming from, because it's just it does nothing to

1193
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: shout at each other on Twitter. You don't get anywhere

1194
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: you don't get any substantive change. You don't even understand

1195
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: where the other person's coming from. So I didn't have

1196
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Colin or Jesse clip the thing last night, but I

1197
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: saw a clip from Kirkirkstreet. They had him to do

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: a Sports Center hit after the game last night, and

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Speaker 1: he went off about the difference between best and most deserving,

1200
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: and he talked about and how the future of the

1201
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: playoff conversation may sound different. And Indiana, you watch them

1202
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: on the field with Notre Dame and they don't even

1203
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: look like they belong there. And just because they had

1204
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: a really good record, it doesn't mean that they should

1205
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: be in the playoff. Hey, I'm the one who constantly

1206
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: beats the drum that you are not always what your

1207
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: record says you are. I'm the first one to say that,

1208
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: So you get no disagreement with me that there are

1209
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: far more important metrics than just win and lost record

1210
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: in college football. Absolutely, seven days out of the week,

1211
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: twice on Sunday, I agree with that. I also agree

1212
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,479
Speaker 1: that you have to honor the spirit of competition first

1213
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: and foremost, or else you lose the spirit of competition.

1214
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: So best versus most deserving is really interesting it's a

1215
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: really interesting and slippery slope to take yourself down, because

1216
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: when you start talking about that, really what you're saying

1217
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: is I want the playoff that I want instead of

1218
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: the one that the spirit of competition dictates. So the

1219
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: spirit of competition includes results on the field, it includes

1220
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: all the criteria, and it's all baked in. It's all

1221
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: put into a blender and poured out, and like, that's

1222
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: how you field a playoff.

1223
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: That's how you select.

1224
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Teams and see the teams, and we can argue on

1225
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: the semantics, we can argue on the criteria.

1226
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: I've got no problem with doing that.

1227
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: I've got input, I've got things that I wish would change.

1228
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what I hope never changes.

1229
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: What I hope never change is is there are outcomes

1230
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: happening on the field. But because it's in direct contrast

1231
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: with my college football worldview, if this team is ranked higher,

1232
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: but I think this lower ranked team is better, therefore

1233
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: they should be in the playoff, that violate spirit of competition.

1234
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: It's why when I put out my own power ratings

1235
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: every week, I had ole Miss in the top six

1236
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and yet I looked

1237
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: you in the eye and said, now, please understand, I

1238
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: got old miss number six because I think they're the

1239
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: sixth best team in the country. But that's not what

1240
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: the resume says. What the resume says is they belong

1241
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in when it comes to the playoff.

1242
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: I had Alabama in the top ten. But I told you,

1243
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: just because I think Alabama would do something doesn't mean anything.

1244
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: Just because I think they'd be favored on a neutral

1245
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: field doesn't mean anything.

1246
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: Because if that's how.

1247
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: We seeded the playoff, we would cease being a selection committee.

1248
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: We would just be a production company. We would cease

1249
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: being a sport. We would just kind of be a movie.

1250
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: Oh it would be very entertaining. The product would be

1251
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: very entertaining. But at what cost, Because if you really

1252
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: want to know, I was talking to Aery Wasserman about

1253
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: this in the press box last night. Our boy was heated.

1254
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, I had to here's the scene. Okay, you

1255
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: got Aery Wasserman over here, just yelling and I'm fanning.

1256
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Calm down, buddy, people are looking at us. It's okay,

1257
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: he's fine, he's okay, calm down. The sh sh couple

1258
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: of strokes of the cheek.

1259
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: Tell me what's wrong. He was worked up on this.

1260
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: I am too. I do not like the insinuation.

1261
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Now this surprises a lot of people because they actually

1262
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: think I fall into the camp of putting best teams in. Well,

1263
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: I need to ask you how you define best before

1264
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you that we should just put the

1265
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: best teams in, because I think most deserving is always

1266
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: the route we should go. As long as we properly

1267
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: define what deserving means. At that point, we can get

1268
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: in the weeds of the selection committee criteria. We can

1269
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: redefine strength to schedule. We can do away with this

1270
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: foolishness of metrics like ranked wins, because if you beat

1271
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: the number twenty five team and nobody else in the

1272
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: top one hundred, and I beat number twenty seven, twenty eight,

1273
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty nine, thirty and thirty one, you do not have

1274
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: a better resume than me, even though in the ranked

1275
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: wins category it's one to nothing you. So we could

1276
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: argue about all that, but we got to arrive at

1277
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: a place where we have a defined set of criteria.

1278
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Everybody knows what the situation is going in. We are

1279
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: not blindly adhering to win and lost record because it's stupid.

1280
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: But we're gonna honor the spirit of competition because this

1281
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: is sports, so you always have to do that, or

1282
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: you you are not playing a sport, you're just kind

1283
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: of you're kind of acting, You're kind of participating in

1284
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: something that is competitive because you're still playing.

1285
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: There's an authentic outcome on the game.

1286
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: But at the end, if the result is not what

1287
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: you wanted, you just reverse engineer it to get your result.

1288
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1289
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: That's not sports. You cannot have college football be that way.

1290
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: So look, here's the reality of it. People will call

1291
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: me an sec homer for this.

1292
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1293
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: There is a suspension of disbelief that is required to

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Speaker 1: fully buy into the national concept to college football, and

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: here it is. It's no different than watching pro wrestling.

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: It's no different than watching David Copperfield work on stage.

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: As an illusionist, It's no different than watching a movie.

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Speaker 1: You know, Friday the thirteenth. You understand this is a work,

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: this is fake, this is choreographed. But I'm gonna suspend

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01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: the part of me that understands that because it's no

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01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: fun to watch a movie or watch a pro wrestling

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Speaker 1: match with that mentality.

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01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: And I'm going to buy into it.

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: Because that entertains me, so I will suspend my disbelief. Look,

1305
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: college football is different because it's a sport. In the outcome,

1306
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: contrary to some message board belief is not predetermined. But

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: there is a suspension of disbelief that is required to

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: fully buy into this being a national sport.

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01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: Because here's the reality.

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Speaker 1: Conferences like the SEC are deeper than everyone else most years.

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01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: The best coaching staffs, and the deepest coaching staffs in

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01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: large part are in the SEC most years. And then

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: you've got the Big Ten as well. More and more

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Speaker 1: so as the years have gone by, the best players disproportionately,

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01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: the best rosters disproportionately, the best quarterbacks disproportionately are going

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01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: to be in those two conferences. The best facilities disproportionately

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: are going to be in those two conferences. The biggest

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Speaker 1: recruiting budgets, the biggest nil budgets disproportionately are going to.

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Speaker 2: Be in those two conferences.

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Speaker 1: And even within those two conferences, it's a concentration of

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Speaker 1: a few teams, and then you throw in some teams

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Speaker 1: the ACC at the very top, and you throw in

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame and most people understand. Look, if Notre Dame's

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Speaker 1: ten and two and U. El Monroe is ten and two,

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Speaker 1: Notre Name is better than Uell Monroe.

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Speaker 2: In fact, if Notre Dame's ten and two and U.

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Speaker 1: Monroe's undefeated, Notre Name's probably still better than U.

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Speaker 2: El Monroe.

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Speaker 1: But you have to suspend the disbelief a little bit

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Speaker 1: in order to buy college football as a true national,

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01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: comparable entity to other national sports. And you have to

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01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: sometimes just keep your mouth shut and you have to understand,

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: like I did this year with SMU or Indiana, I

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01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: don't think on a neutral field with everything on the line,

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: either one of those teams would be able to totem

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: or Alabama's job or ole missus job. I think South

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01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: Carolina had beat him both, but I wouldn't put him in.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. Because it's not an

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01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: SEC invitational tournament. It's the College Football Playoff. It may

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: be more entertaining with those teams in. I think the

1341
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: rights holders would have enjoyed it more. Or if those

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01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: teams were in. It's not a production company, guys. You

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: cannot run a sport that way. You cannot run a

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: sport that way. Because at that point, the message you

1345
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: have sent is the spirit of competition is not what's

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: most important. And I'm a believer for the long term

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: sustainability of college football. If I have to watch an

1348
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: SEC team every once in a while that I think

1349
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: is better get left out over a team that is

1350
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: more deserving as defined by the listed criteria, then so

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: be it. Because for the long term health of the sport,

1352
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: always being based on spirit of competition mattering first and foremost.

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01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: That to me is what outweighs everything else. I know

1354
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: many of you disagree with me on that. I'm not

1355
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: going to change your mind, I don't think, but at

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: least you know where I'm coming from on it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: So when I say I think SMU should have been

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01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: in over Alabama, it's not because I think they were

1360
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: better than Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Quite the opposite.

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01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: I think Alabama would have handled them pretty thoroughly. But

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Speaker 1: I think there's more to it than that. But it's

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Speaker 1: not reck trust me, it's not record. They are watching

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: us in Lansing, Michigan. They're watching us in Dallas, Texas,

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: they're watching us in Salt Lake City, Utah.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: I have got a lot to say about the second

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Speaker 1: round games, but I've also got transfer portal stuff. We

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: got a lot going on, so the transfer portal continues

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: to be really, really hot. Like this afternoon, late this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: as I'm talking to you, Deuce Robinson, former five star

1373
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: guy at USC freak athlete. We watched him work out

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01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: in high school. Unbelievable. He is transferring to FSU. That's official.

1375
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: As of tonight. He was the number three wide receiver

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01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: in the portal. That is the ninth transfer that FSU

1377
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: is taken. Now They've had a lot of guys hit

1378
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: the exit door as well. They got Gus mauson new coordinator.

1379
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: There got the Boston College quarterback transferred in, so that's a.

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Speaker 2: Big pick up for them.

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Speaker 1: That's not all though, We got a lot going on

1382
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: in the portal, so LSU's just kept it going every

1383
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: portal segment now for the better part of two or

1384
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: three weeks, we have talked about LSU or led with LSU.

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01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Peyton, the number one overall edge player from FSU.

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: By the way, he's now landed at LSU. I am

1387
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: very excited about this one. He was the twenty twenty

1388
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: two acc Rookie of the Year. Over three seasons, guys

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: had thirty two tackles for loss, sixteen sacks. And I

1390
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: am putting him in Blake Baker's defense. I cannot overstate

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: enough how much I think he could blow up in

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: that defense. He is picking the perfect situation. I'm sure

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: he's getting compensated. Well, I'm not saying he's not. But

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01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: the fit here makes a lot of sense as well.

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01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: This is a big pickup for them, and it's not

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: the only one. Lsho's been making a ton of moves.

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: Miami not done. Miami went and got David Blay number

1398
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: two defensive tackle. He's from Louisiana, right Jesse. That's where

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: he was last year Conference USA First Team All American.

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Speaker 1: Mind you sixt' five, about two point fifty six and

1401
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: a half sacks, eleven tackles for loss last year. That

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: makes four top one hundred guys that Miami's picked up.

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: A wide receiver, this defensive tackle. They've gotten themselves a corner,

1404
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: a safety. I think the multi million dollar question literally

1405
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: is still what are they going to do at quarterback?

1406
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: Don't know, don't know, And you know it's not that

1407
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback room is barren there, like Emery Williams is

1408
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: down there right now.

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: He's played for him already.

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Speaker 1: But it's just I think most people in the market

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: expected them to make a move there. I did as well.

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they won't, it's just that they haven't yet.

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: That's what we're waiting on them. Alabama's gotten hot. So

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: Alabama's made a lot of moves. We were waiting to

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: see if Isaiah Horton from Miami at wide receiver, was

1416
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: going to ender the portal. He finally did. We said

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: Bama's destination if he goes in. He went in. He

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: is now not in anymore. He's committed Alabama. A sixty three,

1419
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: two hundred pound receiver there. Cam Duberry is a guy

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01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: Bama got yesterday. He's an interior offensive lineman from A

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: and M. Now I'm excited about that one. So I

1422
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: think they got a sneaky good player there, just like

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking about Blake Baker picking up

1424
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: a big edge piece. Now that was more highly rated

1425
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: than this kid is. But I think he's a little underrated.

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: Bama's gotten a wide receiver, a linebacker, a corner, a

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman, an interior offensive lineman. They haven't fallen off

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01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: and recruiting at all. Now keep this in mind when

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: you look at the players on Bama's roster now, they've

1430
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: had three chances to leave, So those who are there

1431
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: still have chosen multiple times to still play for Kaylin

1432
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: to Boor. The reason I mentioned that is cause this

1433
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: last year's he's playing with someone else's players. He will

1434
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: still be coaching a lot of players that they didn't

1435
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: recruit there this upcoming year. But the difference is every

1436
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: one of them on this upcoming year's team have chosen

1437
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: to play for Kaylin de Boor like three times. So

1438
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: it's fully his team. Whatever that means is whatever that means.

1439
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: But anytime here and moving forward, a coach takes over

1440
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: a program, you get a few portal cycles in the

1441
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: ones who are still there, you know they're there because

1442
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: they want to be there. Also, obviously keeping a close

1443
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: eye on Zachariah and Zion Branch. They both left USC

1444
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: Zacharia Branch number two receiver in the portal Zion Branch

1445
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: number twelve safety Georgia Arizona State.

1446
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: Those are the two schools we keep hearing mentioned for

1447
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: these two.

1448
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to myself, like Zachari Branch in the

1449
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: right system can and will blow up. I think I

1450
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know which system is best suited for him.

1451
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him play for Arizona State only

1452
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: because everybody who's played for Arizona State this she's blown up.

1453
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Georgia knows how to use

1454
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: those kind of guys as well, and so keep an

1455
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: eye on them. I expect some action on that front

1456
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: this week. Okay, let's continue moving because we're already over

1457
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: an hour ten in. Now what I want to do

1458
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: listen to how much paper?

1459
01:10:59,520 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: Now?

1460
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: What I want I want to do is I want

1461
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: to look ahead a little bit. So we got Christmas

1462
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: coming up this week. FYI, if you did not know,

1463
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the eye, Josh, It's December twenty second

1464
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: right now, Sunday night. We are not doing another show,

1465
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: So it's Sunday right now. We're not doing another show

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: until right before the playoff games happened, so we'll be

1467
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: out for an extended period of time. So I wanted

1468
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: to touch on these games. We'll do the full game

1469
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: previews when we come back. This is just kind of

1470
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: a little first swipe So Ohio State's playing Oregon in

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. I'm going to this game, no suspense.

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01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: We're going to Pasadena because any excuse I have to

1473
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: go to Pasadena, I go. I will not be dressed

1474
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: like I was dressed last night at Ohio State's game.

1475
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: We'll just go short sleeves out there in southern California.

1476
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: This is the best This could be the best two

1477
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: teams in the country. They're playing in the second round

1478
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: because the format of the playoff is jacked up, but

1479
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: this could be the two best teams in the country.

1480
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: We already saw them play in what I thought was

1481
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: the game of the year in Eugene early this year.

1482
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: Ohio State just the overall dynamics shift. It just fascinates me.

1483
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: Here.

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: So they played like they did against Tennessee with their

1485
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: hair on fire, and that was coming off two weeks

1486
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: of negativity and doubt, and who knows how much of

1487
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: that had to do with their performance.

1488
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, now no one doubts them.

1489
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: Now they pack up and they go like three thousand

1490
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: miles out west to face a team that's rested, and

1491
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: to face a team that earned a first round by

1492
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: this is your reward, like congratulations, but the same dynamic

1493
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: does not exist as existed going into the Tennessee game.

1494
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: The challenge is, can you play the same way even

1495
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: though the dynamics are different Oregon, the last time they

1496
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: played Ohio State, the precision of the passing game was everything.

1497
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel was twenty three to thirty four, three point

1498
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: forty one to two touchdowns. Evan Stewart goes off, Tesz

1499
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: Johnson goes off. They had seven catches a piece. If

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: they can duplicate that, you're talking about an instant classic

1501
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: two point zero here. It's tough to do, but they've

1502
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: been doing that virtually all year. It was not a

1503
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: mirage when they played Ohio State last year they lost

1504
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: to Washington twice. This year they beat Ohio State the

1505
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: first time. Could they pull off a reversal and then

1506
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State again the second time. The version of

1507
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State that we just saw against Oregon when they

1508
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: played a few months ago, it kind of went missing

1509
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: until last night. Last night they played that way against

1510
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: Tennessee again. But Ryan Day even said, you know, when

1511
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: we played Indiana, offensively we didn't play that great. We

1512
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: still we beat them, but offensively we left a lot

1513
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: on the field that day against Michigan. Of course, it

1514
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: was terrible that game last night against Tennessee. That's how

1515
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: they threw the ball against Oregon. They threw for three

1516
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: hundred against Oregon as well. Howard was twenty eight to

1517
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 1: thirty five that day. So the key in that game,

1518
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: if you'll remember, was Ohio State ran the ball pretty effectively.

1519
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: In the first half. They ran for one to twenty two,

1520
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: they ran for nineteen yards in the second. They just

1521
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: got away from it. And so it's what's crazy, as

1522
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: everyone's yelling at chip Kelly, why didn't you run the

1523
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: ball more? And then after the Michigan game, people are yelling, well,

1524
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: you should run the ball so much for throw the

1525
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: ball more. Ah, the nature of a play caller. It's

1526
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: a coaching staff game. It's a coaching staff game, just

1527
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: as the first one was. And I thought the biggest

1528
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 1: one of the biggest takeaways in the first game was

1529
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: if you look on paper, Ryan Day, Jim Knowles and

1530
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly should have a sizeable advantage in terms of

1531
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: experience and quality of staff over Dan Lanning and will

1532
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: Stein and Tash Lupoi, and they didn't the first time around.

1533
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: I thought.

1534
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: I thought Oregon in the aggregate had a better coaching

1535
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: staff afternoon than Ohio State did.

1536
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: So that was one game.

1537
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: It could get flipped on its ear in this game.

1538
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: But that's what the running in the first half versus

1539
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: second half, the precision from Oregon and the big day

1540
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: for that Oregon coaching staff. That's what stands out to

1541
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: me about that first game, every indication here that this

1542
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: one will be another instant classic. Cannot wait for that one.

1543
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: They're watching us, you know, they're watching us in Irvine, California.

1544
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: They're watching us in Austin, Texas. Apache Junction, Arizona is

1545
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: tuned in as well. Appreciate you guys. Sugar Bowl is

1546
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna be good.

1547
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: Man.

1548
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: Georgia versus Notre Dame New Year's Day, eight forty five kickoff,

1549
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: late kickoff. How has Georgia used the last two weeks?

1550
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: I would like to know.

1551
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: So last time we saw them, they were celebrating an

1552
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: SEC championship right and Carson Beck went down at halftime

1553
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: and Gunner Stockton came in and they had come from

1554
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: behind and beat Texas.

1555
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: It's no small feat, but.

1556
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: From a totality of season standpoint, Georgia had been a

1557
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: very quarterback centric team this year, so you would think

1558
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: if you lose your quarterback and you're a quarterback centric team,

1559
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: you may be in trouble. And they were ninety eighth

1560
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: running the ball this year and twelfth throwing the ball.

1561
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: But yet when Beck went down, there was like this

1562
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: jolt of life that goes through.

1563
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: The team and they end up coming from behind and winning.

1564
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: Now, that could be temporary, and so over the span

1565
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: of four quarters against a high caliber defense like Notre Dame,

1566
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's not that way.

1567
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: The beautiful part about this game.

1568
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: Is both teams will come in fully convinced they have

1569
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: the physical edge. Notre Dame does not believe they take

1570
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: a physical back seat to any team in the country.

1571
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: Georgia does not believe they take a physical back seat

1572
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: to any team in the country. Now, the beautiful part

1573
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: about that is they both fully believe that they would

1574
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: sign a blood oath that they believe that, and yet

1575
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: one of them's got to be wrong. That's why we

1576
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 1: play the games. How does Notre Dame win the game?

1577
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: They're a two and a half point dog right now

1578
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: at FanDuel.

1579
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: How do they win the game? Riley Leonard? Until they

1580
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: win the game. I've watched Georgia this year give up

1581
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards rushing to Jalen Milroe. Jackson Dart

1582
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: ran for fifty on him, Haynes King ran for over

1583
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: one hundred on them. Riley Leonard can do that differences.

1584
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: The three quarterbacks I just listed are a bigger threat

1585
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: with their arm than Riley Leonard is. And that's the

1586
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: million dollar question here because I have not seen many

1587
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: one dimensional offenses have a lot of success against a

1588
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: Kirby smart defense, and they can turn you into one

1589
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: really quick. On the other side, though, how many points

1590
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: will Notre Dame need? So if they stone, Georgia's offense

1591
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: could be a total rock fight. How does Georgia win?

1592
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: I think they make Notre Dame trade shots. Nobody's done

1593
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: this really, Like outside of the Northern Illinois game, no

1594
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: one has gotten a lead on Notre Dame and made

1595
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: them trade, made them keep up. If Georgia can do that,

1596
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a very very advantaged position, which

1597
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: is common sense, but it's harder to do than say

1598
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: against No Name. And then the backup theory is in

1599
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: play here, which is one of my most fun theories

1600
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: to test. In college football, you don't ever want to

1601
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: see a guy get hurt. But the fact of the

1602
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: matter is when quarterbacks get hurt in college football sometimes

1603
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: it does a weird thing to a locker room because

1604
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: the public expects the team to go in a shell.

1605
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: But knowing that in the locker room, you take it

1606
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: upon yourself as a d ligneman, as a safety, as

1607
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, as a full back, you take it

1608
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: upon yourself to raise your level of play. And if

1609
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: everyone does that, the collective output of the team can

1610
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: even surpass what you were with your starting quarterback. And

1611
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 1: it makes no sense, It defies logic. Teams and programs

1612
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: that are really proud and really talented, like Georgia, they

1613
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: can do that sort of thing. Georgia can still win

1614
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: a national championship even without Carson Beck. It will still

1615
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: take a haymaker to beat them. Fully believe that. So

1616
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: the backup theory is in full effect here. Next up,

1617
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: Next up, after we take another sip of water, because

1618
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: I have talked a lot in the past two days,

1619
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: not that there's anything wrong with that, just that I

1620
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: have okay, big points spread here. Texas is playing Arizona

1621
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: State in the Peach Bowl New Year's Day, one o'clock kickoff,

1622
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: Eastern Time. Texas favored by thirteen and a half. This

1623
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: is the number four team versus the number thirty team

1624
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: in the team talent composite, which is just a measure

1625
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: of from a past recruiting ranking standpoint, how talented your

1626
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: roster is now. I would say Arizona State has already

1627
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: overachieved relative to that number this year. So make of

1628
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: that what you will. Staff versus staff. One staff's been there,

1629
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: the other staff it's all brand new for him. Make

1630
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: of that what you will. Nobody has really run on Texas.

1631
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: Texas has the number ten run defense in the country,

1632
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: and Camp Skataboo. As much as no one's run on Texas,

1633
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: no one has stopped him. So that's the beauty of

1634
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: these postseason games, because you get to the point where

1635
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 1: something's got to give. Notre Dame Georgia, same way, Texas,

1636
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: Arizona State, same way. Something's got to give there. You

1637
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta stay committed to it. I mean, you

1638
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: are not gonna rip Texas to pieces on the ground.

1639
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: Success running the ball on Texas is still gonna come

1640
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: at the expense of needing to be very patient and

1641
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: maybe needing to give a couple of possessions away punting

1642
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: because you stayed committed to the run.

1643
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: But you gotta do it. But you gotta do it

1644
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: and hope that they.

1645
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: Don't hang thirty five plus on you, because if they do,

1646
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. If they do to you what

1647
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: they do to Clemson, you're not gonna win. Arizona State,

1648
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: I think they need to have an off day from

1649
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: a Texas offensive standpoint, which has happened to Texas many

1650
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: times this year. They have got to mix, they've got

1651
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: to confuse, they've got a pressure, They've got to do

1652
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: enough to where quinn Ewers has one of those games where, yeah,

1653
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: the numbers are okay, but you're in the middle of

1654
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: the third quarter, you only got thirteen points on the board,

1655
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,480
Speaker 1: and you're just saying, man, like, the where's.

1656
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: The extra juice, where's the jolt?

1657
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: You get him in that quicksand and you could have

1658
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: some things go your way. Problem is, Arizona State is

1659
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: seventieth in past defense, so the plays.

1660
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: Should be there.

1661
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: They should be there, but they are top thirty run

1662
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: d again, personnel wise, Texas should be able to call

1663
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: their shot here they should be able to. They should

1664
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,520
Speaker 1: have been able to against Arkansas.

1665
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: They didn't.

1666
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: They should have been able to. I'm not gonna say

1667
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: that about A and M. A and M is a

1668
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: good team, but you saw those games. Texas wins full

1669
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: credit for it, but they don't run away seventeen points,

1670
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: twenty points. Can Arizona State play that kind of game?

1671
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: Sam Levitt needs a big game man quarterback there for

1672
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Arizona State. He needs to play the game of his

1673
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: life here. You need some Texas mistakes. There's a gap

1674
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: between these two teams. It's not insurmountable, but there is

1675
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: a gap between these two teams. And as you will

1676
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: continue to notice if they're playing in Week four, it's

1677
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 1: kind of an anything can happen sort of vibe college football.

1678
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: Once you get to the postseason, teams largely play up

1679
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: to their potential, I mean to varying degrees. That's why

1680
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 1: that Clumson Alabama national title game in twenty eighteen was

1681
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: so crazy because Bama just like doesn't show up and

1682
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: Clumson smokes them, and you're looking at it and saying, wow, like, Okay,

1683
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: we've seen blowouts in these games before, but Bama just

1684
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: didn't show up. That's atypical. Most of these teams that

1685
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: are really good, most of these high level programs, once

1686
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: they get to this time of year, they show up.

1687
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: I expect Texas to show up. And that's why that

1688
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: spreads thirteen and a half. So it's not impossible, but man,

1689
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: you gotta have some things go your way. That number

1690
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: courtesy of FanDuel. Mind you, FanDuel the exclusive odds provider

1691
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: of our show of our entire university here at Paige State, because.

1692
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: That's legal now.

1693
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: So I showed you guys on Friday, I think stuff

1694
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: that FanDuel had just sent to me. They said, hey,

1695
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: heads up, we're about to post this and they put

1696
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: the hypothetical lines out. And that was the thing I

1697
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: think I showed on the show too, where before the

1698
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: first round games happened, you could bet on potential second

1699
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: round matchups and you could get yourself a little bit

1700
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: of value. Well, it turns out you absolutely could because

1701
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: those lines moved a little bit. Like you saw a

1702
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,879
Speaker 1: second ago, the line on Oregon Ohio State.

1703
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: Now two and a half. It wasn't that last week.

1704
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: The Notre Dame Georgia line moved a little bit. It

1705
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: wasn't that last week? Obviously, Now they're not hypothetical. The

1706
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: games are really happening. But you can still go over

1707
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: to FanDuel. Everything is available there. The odds to win

1708
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: the National Championship were moving during the game last night.

1709
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: I was watching as Ohio State randed up on Tennessee.

1710
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: I was watching the odds on FanDuel. Ohio State rose

1711
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: to the second best odds to win the title. I

1712
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: think that's where they are right now. It's them in Texas. Yeah,

1713
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: you heard me right. Ohio State's got better as to

1714
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: win the title than Oregon does. That's why they're favored

1715
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 1: on a neutral field against organ in nine or ten days.

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Speaker 1: How do you think this Penn State Boise game is

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Speaker 1: gonna go? First thoughts, how do you think it's gonna go?

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Speaker 1: This is the Fiesta Bowl, It's New Year's Eve, It's

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Speaker 1: the only game on New Year's Eve. It's seven thirty

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Speaker 1: ten and oh in the Fiesta Bowl. Someone's gotta lose,

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Speaker 1: saying Boise State and Fiesta Bowl is magical in college football.

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Speaker 1: I I do not think we can get moments like

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Speaker 1: that anymore. I just think society has changed. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how that would happen for those of you. I

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Speaker 1: I go back about two or three times a year still.

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Speaker 1: I just watch the O six. I guess it was

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Speaker 1: The Fiesta Bowl ending between Boise and Oklahoma one of

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Speaker 1: the most seminal like infamous moments in the history of

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Speaker 1: our sport. I call it the original upset, not because

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Speaker 1: upsets had never happened before, but I just think it

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Speaker 1: ushered in a new wave that was the same time

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Speaker 1: period where app stayed over Michigan had happened right there,

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Speaker 1: like two years back to back. And I also think

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Speaker 1: that it was it was at the dawn. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but it was pre social media, so there wasn't as

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Speaker 1: much that was like fire host in your face every hour.

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Speaker 1: So when things happened, they resonated a little bit longer.

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Speaker 1: And when that ending of that game happened, it resonated

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Speaker 1: to a degree that. I do not think modern day

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Speaker 1: incidents can resonate. I just don't believe it's possible anymore so,

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Speaker 1: remembering Boise in the Fiesta Bowls amazing, Penn State could

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Speaker 1: not care less about that. They're just gonna try to

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Speaker 1: smash them and have the game over at halftime. Ashton

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Speaker 1: Genty versus Penn State's run defense most important matchup in

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Speaker 1: this game. He has not been held to under one

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Speaker 1: forty all year. He's had six two hundred plus yard

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Speaker 1: rushing games. Penn State is the number seven run defense

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Speaker 1: in the country. I think they match up pretty well,

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Speaker 1: but that is a special player, very special player. Now

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Speaker 1: there is a world where Genti gets his one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty five yards and Penn State still wins comfortably.

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Speaker 1: That could happen, but there is no world where Boise

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Speaker 1: wins without him going off. And number two Drew Aler

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Speaker 1: against Boise's pass defense, it's a mismatch. Boise is in

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Speaker 1: the one hundreds in past d and I watched Penn

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Speaker 1: State go up against SMU and they did not throw

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Speaker 1: the ball well. I am a believer that the weather

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Speaker 1: affected Penn State as well. We will test this theory

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Speaker 1: because this game is going to be indoors out in Glendale.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be fine there. And I

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Speaker 1: actually think that passing game turned a corner in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game, and it was temporarily put on

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Speaker 1: hold because they played in a freezer yesterday and they

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Speaker 1: did not need to be throwing the ball because defense

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Speaker 1: alone was, as it turns out, gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 1: outscore SMU. So it's a big pressure game for James Franklin.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this one more time. I am a

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Speaker 1: ton of pressure on them to win both these games.

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Speaker 1: They've won the first one, they've got to win this.

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Speaker 1: They've got to at least be in the semi finals

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Speaker 1: for this to be a success. You never know how

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Speaker 1: many more times you're gonna come this way. You never

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Speaker 1: know how many more times you're gonna get in this situation.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you the Penn State that you know,

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Speaker 1: the Penn State that you think you know, is not

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Speaker 1: good enough to win this whole thing. They're good enough

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Speaker 1: to win the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: But what if they are not who you think.

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Speaker 1: You know, what if the passing attack, what if offense

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Speaker 1: a couple of more times, but they still play the

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Speaker 1: same caliber defense they've been playing. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: world where they find a way to mess around and

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Speaker 1: win the national title. Not many worlds. Most of the

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Speaker 1: simulations of this would not end that way. But if

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Speaker 1: Penn State plays ceiling football and a couple of things

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Speaker 1: go their way, it's not totally out of the realm

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Speaker 1: of possibility. They got a very favorable draw here, it's

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Speaker 1: not out of the room of possibility. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm mentioning that is because this may be the best

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Speaker 1: I hope we win it this time, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll be around every year. Maybe you will, maybe you won't.

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Speaker 1: But I would never assume that I'll be in this

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Speaker 2: What do we do?

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Speaker 1: Hour and a half tonight, pretty solid show. We have

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Speaker 2: Fairly controvers things tonight.

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Speaker 1: Overall, I think we all grew as a people together.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that you're following on the socials because we're

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