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Speaker 1: in another beautiful Fox Sports Sunday underway action on the pitch.

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Speaker 1: We'll have tournaments. We've got NBA playoff games, NHL playoff games.

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Speaker 1: The draft is mercifully over. Finally, Oh, I gotta do

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Speaker 1: some more screaming about Shid or Sanders. I think I

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Speaker 1: have seventy two hour moratorium before we move on to

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Speaker 1: other things that you know, actually matter in the sporting universe. Dan,

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Speaker 1: But for now we'll still shake our hands and have

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Speaker 1: some fun with it. Mike Garment, Dan Byer with you here, Dan,

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Speaker 1: fantasy football purposes. Don't worry. We've got some fallout there

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Speaker 1: coming out of the draft. You hear them weekdays with

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb and Cavino and Rich and of course we

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky is Dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I have been on Blue Sky in

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Speaker 1: a while. I'll bet swollendome at all those particulars where.

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Speaker 2: I don't think other people have either to be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, I've been a little slow grow like threads.

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Speaker 1: It got that you know push for like a week

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Speaker 1: and then kind of went off to do you think.

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Speaker 2: That blue sky is here to stay? It just hasn't

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Speaker 2: hasn't flown as as much as we had thought.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe we could become those influencers that allow it

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Speaker 1: to get some push. I don't know, we'll come up

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Speaker 1: with some hot take nonsense along the way to fuel

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Speaker 1: the fire. But yeah, NFL draft still front and center,

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Speaker 1: and obviously much of the oxygen to the pleasure or

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Speaker 1: dismay depending on your whether you're a TV exec and

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Speaker 1: executive or you know, family members of you know, guys

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Speaker 1: that actually got drafted on day one or day two

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Speaker 1: a bit salty that maybe their moments from cam Ward

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Speaker 1: think that's the nice way to put it. That became

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Speaker 1: draft analysis when Shodar Sanders didn't, you know, get some

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Speaker 1: in the eighties and WWE or the Macho King. See

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing everybody in today.

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Speaker 2: I think you're talking about the talking heads that we're

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Speaker 2: talking a lot about the NFL Draft at that point.

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Speaker 2: But I would argue that the only story of this

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Speaker 2: draft was Shador Sanders, even before he fell all the

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Speaker 2: way to the fifth round to the Cleveland Browns. When

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Speaker 2: you looked at what was happening at the top of

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Speaker 2: then I thought, Mike, the other only question, aside from

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Speaker 2: We knew he was going to go in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: to go all along, and that's to the Raiders. Travis

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Speaker 2: That was the piece that we didn't know. We didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get the giant circuitous route because when we

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Speaker 1: The only question in the top of the draft, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there were guys throughout the draft

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Speaker 2: And he celebrated with some Bruskies on yeah, Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: I heard those talks on Friday prior to the draft

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Speaker 1: Was one of those all right, what do we need?

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Speaker 2: What I wish Roger Goodell would have done, because I

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Speaker 2: Goodell would have said, with the twenty fifth pick, the

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Speaker 1: you know, And it's interesting. Now we'll start getting more

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Speaker 1: and more of the details. So Sanders eventually goes one

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Speaker 1: This is fun. Jeff Schwartz, who's just on with Bill

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Speaker 1: But just the point being that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: got the tape from Brian Dable and the Giants and

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Speaker 1: grossly unprepared was the term that was used, not not

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Speaker 1: me creating, creating chaos. So, like all of these little things,

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Speaker 1: you know mel kiper in his hyper vigilance and staunch

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Speaker 1: take the flamethrower to it all. Could they be wrong, sure,

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Speaker 1: like you're on Dion Sanders' payroll.

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Speaker 2: Well, and Mike and I think that that's that's a

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Speaker 2: great point because ultimately, in all of this, fair or unfair,

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Speaker 2: I feel that Dion Sanders is to blame for this

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Speaker 2: son wasn't taken, his player wasn't taken. There's obviously remorse

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Speaker 2: has been the Dion way, the promotion, the logos, the

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Speaker 2: And if you're having bad interviews, if you're saying we're

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Speaker 2: don't know about the crew if they saw it, if

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Speaker 2: they want to weigh in, But my point being, Chris,

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Speaker 2: when you saw the Aaron Gordon dunk, did you think

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Speaker 2: that it should count or not count? Chris prefet I.

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Speaker 4: Am genuinely rule of cool and also yes, I thought

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Speaker 4: it should count.

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Speaker 2: You thought it was good, You thought that yeah, it

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Speaker 2: came okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I guess one of my one of

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Speaker 4: my founding memories is thinking about then I remember watching

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Speaker 4: the NC State documentary. Yes, and that kind of reminded

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Speaker 4: me of that of the of like kind of put back.

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Speaker 2: Sure, like for sure, but in this case, like does

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Speaker 2: the basket count or not? He thought it was good.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was not good. Mike thought it was

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Speaker 2: not good. Shay, did you think that the basket was

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Speaker 2: in time originally when I first saw it? That's all

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Speaker 2: I need to know. Yeah, I thought it wasn't okay, Isaac,

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Speaker 2: when you saw it.

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Speaker 5: Same thing, But the call stands. So in that case,

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Speaker 5: the call get it or what?

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Speaker 2: Did you think? You thought that it was no good? Right?

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Speaker 2: Like you thought that it was late? Yes, yes, I

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Speaker 2: did too.

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Speaker 1: Don't be afraid. There's only five Clipper fans. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna Clipper darrowly chasing you down.

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Speaker 2: The reason, the reason I only want to know up

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Speaker 2: to that point is because I think all of us

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Speaker 2: were steadfast in whether it was or wasn't. Now, when

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Speaker 2: you go into the replay and the review, my wife,

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Speaker 2: who was sitting on the same couch with me, she's like, no,

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Speaker 2: that's good, that's good. I'm like, no, I go no,

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Speaker 2: it's not. You can see his finger from the replays

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Speaker 2: that we saw, So people who are sitting on the

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Speaker 2: same piece of furniture are having a difference of opinion,

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Speaker 2: and let alone us here in the studio from our

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Speaker 2: various different vantage points. And that's what was so crazy.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't until the NBA Official at NBA Official

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Speaker 2: where they have their replay calls, gave you the overhead

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Speaker 2: view from probably section four h six and into a

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Speaker 2: dome of the camera coming down and seeing that the

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Speaker 2: ball had left Aaron Gordon's hand. But even to that point, Mike,

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Speaker 2: as we're breaking this down frame by frame, I'm not

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Speaker 2: even sure if it's still enough. But in the end,

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Speaker 2: how crappy would it have been if they waved it off? Right?

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Speaker 2: If we're talking about one thousandth of a second or

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Speaker 2: one hundredths of a second here, then what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: So even though and listen, I want the Clippers to

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Speaker 2: win the series, I do want them to move on,

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Speaker 2: so there's no bats. I just want the Clippers to win.

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Speaker 2: So I had a dog in the fight, and I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: no basket, no basket, no basket. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: in the world you could wave that off. Because of

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Speaker 2: then all of the dominoes, you'd be erasing a great

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Speaker 2: moment in NBA playoff history, a moment in Nuggets history

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Speaker 2: because of something that is one thousandth of a second

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Speaker 2: too late. And ultimately it was good and it can

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Speaker 2: go down and Nugget's lore. But even if if it was,

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Speaker 2: if there was this replay here that showed the tip

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Speaker 2: of his finger was on it, I just don't know

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Speaker 2: how you can call it no good because of how

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Speaker 2: close it was.

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Speaker 1: Well, and he's dunking the ball through the basket. Is

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Speaker 1: it once it goes past the rim? Level doesn't count

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Speaker 1: sure whether it's still on. We go all the way

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Speaker 1: through it, right, and.

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Speaker 2: It is the finger so like it would just be

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Speaker 2: like a shot from a three point shot. The ball

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to be through the hoop at the buzzer,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Just got to be off the hand.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: The tweet that they put out kind of celebrating the

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Speaker 1: fantastic finishes seven point one million views, twenty two thousand likes,

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Speaker 1: one point two twelve hundred bookmarks, four point four in

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Speaker 1: terms of retweets, and four hundred eighteen comments of fighting

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Speaker 1: over it. But is that the answer that we go

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Speaker 1: to hundreds and thousands of a second day, and is

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Speaker 1: that what we need to expand the clock?

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Speaker 2: I think that I don't think it would be an

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Speaker 2: awful thing, But what I do think here in that

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Speaker 2: instance is it would give more of a clarification on

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Speaker 2: the two frames of the image that we see of

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Speaker 2: the ball on Gordon's finger and then the next image

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Speaker 2: of it not being on his finger in the light

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Speaker 2: lit It still doesn't answer the question totally because we

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's three tenths of a second, you know,

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Speaker 2: or three one hundreds of a second or three whatever

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Speaker 2: the breakdown is. But that is it still doesn't give

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Speaker 2: us an answer. But maybe it does. Maybe the NBA does.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I actually think it's amazing that the NFL

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Speaker 2: and college football haven't gone to tens of a second

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Speaker 2: in a game. This is the whole reasoning on why

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Speaker 2: you don't get delay of game calls on a play clock.

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Speaker 2: The clock when it hits double zero is because of

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Speaker 2: those tents of a second. Because of the double zero. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a point nine eight seven six, So when you

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Speaker 2: have that pause on the play clock, there's a reason

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Speaker 2: why they're not calling the penalty right away, So why

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Speaker 2: not just go to tens of a second at that

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Speaker 2: point and then when you have the full zero zero

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Speaker 2: point zero zero, you're good to go. I'm shocked that

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Speaker 2: this hasn't actually been put in the NFL for the

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Speaker 2: last decade. I've been waiting for it and it's never

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Speaker 2: showed up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we get to the snap of a football.

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Speaker 1: I mean we got two things going on. One, did

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Speaker 1: they get it off before the play clock expired?

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Speaker 2: Two?

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Speaker 1: How many rock steps does the tackle get before it's

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Speaker 1: a false start anymore? How far can he be back?

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Speaker 2: Penalty?

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Speaker 1: Sure, but it's just an extension of all of that.

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Speaker 1: It's like where's that shade of gray versus what's actually

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Speaker 1: out a clock?

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Speaker 2: But you understand my point, Yeah, for the for the

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Speaker 2: play clock is they're not gonna cause they're gonna give

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Speaker 2: you that that pause if you will, And we talk

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Speaker 2: about that all the time. But if that was the

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Speaker 2: game clock, what about the zero zero point eight point

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Speaker 2: eight point seven point six that could still be on

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Speaker 2: the clock. Instead, they would say, guess what game's over?

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Speaker 2: Double zero's on the clock, Like there still is a second,

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Speaker 2: you know, nine tens of a second or eight tens

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Speaker 2: of a second left that at the end of the

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Speaker 2: game are not accounted for because the double zero is

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Speaker 2: the final But on something like the play clock. I

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Speaker 2: think that's the reason why they give.

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Speaker 1: The pay and look, you might have that one big play.

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Speaker 1: It becomes like Office Space, the movie where they write

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Speaker 1: the software to steal the rounded off parts of a

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Speaker 1: coin and then all of a sudden you got three

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Speaker 1: hundred and five thousand dollars. Or there's a touchdown because

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Speaker 1: they got that extra grade second.

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Speaker 2: Dak against the forty nine ers a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: remember the scramble. Oh my gosh, they're gonna run out

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Speaker 2: of time. They're going out of time. The spike. If

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Speaker 2: he spikes it and there's point six seconds left, cowboys

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Speaker 2: have another play instead, forty nine Ers move on like

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Speaker 2: that's I'm shocked at the NFL has not done this yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's your homework down, Dan, You've got to

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Speaker 1: go find all those instances in the NFL, the NFL films.

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Speaker 1: I'll send you all the passwords.

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Speaker 2: I have no the the NBA will go to one

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Speaker 2: hundreds of a second before the NFL even does a

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Speaker 2: tenth of a second.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, question about it at Dan Byro on Fox

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Speaker 1: where you find him in the twitterverse. Find me over

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Speaker 1: at Swollen Dome. Time to take a trip around our

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Speaker 1: sporting universe with the legend himself. It's Isaac Lohenkron at

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Speaker 1: Isaac Lowancrod. Where you find him. You hear him with

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Speaker 1: us every Sunday morning.

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Speaker 5: Hey you doing, buddy, We're saving the best for last

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Speaker 5: on this one.

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Speaker 1: You gonna sing its Williams come on.

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Speaker 5: Me even better, even better than saving the best for

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Speaker 5: singing the best for last. In the meantime, though, we

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Speaker 5: start with today's NBA Playoff action, which chips off at

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Speaker 5: the top of the hour with Game four from Detroit

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Speaker 5: and the New York Knicks leading the Piston two games

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Speaker 5: to one. Then at three point thirty Eastern, it's Game

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Speaker 5: four from Minneapolis with the Timberwolves leading the Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: Lakers two games to one, and as Magic Johnson just

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Speaker 5: tweeted moments ago, quotes, I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 5: is going to happen today with all the stars in

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Speaker 5: the NBA playoffs exclamation point unquote. Anyway, today's Stanley Cup

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Speaker 5: playoff action faces off at the top of the hour

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Speaker 5: with Game four from Saint Louis with the Winnipeg Jets

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Speaker 5: leading the Blues two games to one. Now, today, the

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Speaker 5: TV show CBS This Morning did a profile on North

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Speaker 5: Carolina head football coach and former New England Patriots head

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Speaker 5: coach Bill Belichick because he's coming out with a new

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Speaker 5: book next month. Now, the piece featured this.

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Speaker 2: Young Chicks is the title. That's that's the title of

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Speaker 2: the book.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, no, you don't have to apologize.

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Speaker 1: Copy.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually getting to that what you said there, Dan,

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Speaker 5: But anyway, the piece first featured this exchange when Belichick

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Speaker 5: was asked about Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

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Speaker 7: I have to ask about Robert Kraft because twenty four

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Speaker 7: years together, six Super Bowls. He's not in this book.

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Speaker 2: How come he's not?

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Speaker 8: Well again, it's about my life lessons in football, and

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Speaker 8: it's it's really more about the ones that I experienced directly.

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Speaker 7: He's not even in the acknowledgment section.

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Speaker 6: Correct and finally yes.

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Speaker 5: Belichick was also asked about how he met his girlfriend

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Speaker 5: Jordan Hudson. When Hudson herself interceded from off camera. Listen closely,

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Speaker 5: how did you guys meet?

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Speaker 6: Not talking about this?

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Speaker 5: No, no, you know that's so good their imaginated heaven

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Speaker 5: didn't they make didn't they mean on a plane?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what I thought. So we already know the

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Speaker 9: story or is it this story a well? Because otherwise

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Speaker 9: you just say we met on a plane. Yeah, hast

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Speaker 9: answered done?

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Speaker 1: In other words, you probably know it's like one again

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Speaker 1: show how many Law and Order episodes I watch? If

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Speaker 1: the lawyer's asking you a question, they know the answer, yes,

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Speaker 1: right right, hey's surprising you there you go?

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Speaker 2: Oh great?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Silo at Isaac Lo and Coron is where you

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Speaker 1: find him on Twitter. We'll get him back here in

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Speaker 1: a moment as we continue. It's Fox Sports Sunday. Here

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Mike Carmen alongside Dan Bayer uh and

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Speaker 1: coming up next, the sec dominated the first three. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what does it mean? We'll sort it out as we continue.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. He's Dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mike Carmon. Appreciate you being with us this morning,

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Speaker 1: and when do we get together? I mean, it's really

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Speaker 1: there's only one thing we can do, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we'd love to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Mike, it's draft time, but that will not stop us

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Speaker 2: from getting the family together and playing the feud here

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Speaker 2: on a Sunday morning, Mike Harmon, Chris Purfett, producer Shay

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Speaker 2: and Isaac lohin Crown make up the Fox Family. Variety

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Speaker 2: of ways that could have gone. Could have gone our

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Speaker 2: background in the Big Ten, could have gone with the

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Speaker 2: schools that from the Power four conferences that had no

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Speaker 2: one drafted. Instead, I'm going with the SEC schools with

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Speaker 2: the most players drafted in the first three rounds of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. In fact, eleven SEC

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Speaker 2: schools had a player drafted in the first three rounds.

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Speaker 2: I want to know which eleven. Listen, The conference is huge,

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Speaker 2: so I think we're pretty good here if we could

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Speaker 2: just keep it within the SEC. Mike Krmin, it starts

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 1: Just remember SEC.

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Speaker 2: I'll start.

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Speaker 1: I'll just start with Georgia and move on.

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Speaker 2: All right, show me Georgia tied for the number one answer.

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Speaker 2: Six players from Georgia went in the first three rounds

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft over to Chris Profess.

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Speaker 4: So sorry, just to clarify, we're talking about all eleven

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Speaker 4: just as long as they had a player in the.

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Speaker 2: The first three rounds. Yes, from the SKA, I'll leave it.

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Speaker 6: I'll leave a couple of big answers on the board.

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Speaker 6: I'll just lea. I'll go to Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Missouri, it's a good pick. Show me Missouri to

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Speaker 2: show me state. Two players picked in the first three rounds.

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Speaker 2: I think we knew those names, Yes, bes and armand

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Speaker 2: Membu right, yeah, Membo went to the said seven all right,

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Speaker 2: Over to Shay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to Tennessee. Here, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: show me Tennessee. Yes, balls are on the board. They

681
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Speaker 2: also had two players taken in the first three rounds

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Speaker 2: over to Isaac Lowen Alabama. That had to be right

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Speaker 2: when the Seahawks took Jalen Millroe. Had to be other

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Speaker 2: tied members as well. Show me Alabama, Show me Alabama, Dad,

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Speaker 2: we don't have all right, Hey, we've got Alabama on

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Speaker 2: the board. We are four for four through our first round.

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Speaker 2: Back around to Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: But a reminder, first draft coverage of Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: Rady.

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Speaker 1: dot com code Sports. How about Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Great school, obviously a lot of players.

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Speaker 2: Is it Texas A and M? Is it Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M. No, boy, we don't have any of the

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Speaker 2: sound effects. Oh no, it is not. No, it is not.

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Speaker 2: It is not Texas A and M A M did

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Speaker 2: not have any players drafted. As crazy as that sounds,

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Speaker 2: A and M is off the board. Chris, do you

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Speaker 2: want us to go to you? Are you dealing with

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Speaker 2: other technical stuff? I got it now, I got it now.

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Speaker 4: Just apparently with our software, if I dragged something a

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Speaker 4: little bit, it just overwrites.

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Speaker 2: The Sanke came in there and computers, all right, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: See schools that had a player picked in the first

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Speaker 2: three rounds.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was dealing with that. I don't think anyone said, Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Show me Kentucky. They had one player right at the edge,

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Speaker 2: Maxwell Harston. Yes, there he was the Buffalo Bills pick

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Speaker 2: at the end of the first round. Going over to

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Speaker 2: Shay so we said Alabama. We said, we got Georgia, Alabama, Missouri, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: and Kentucky and A and M was our first strike,

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Speaker 2: and that was the first strike.

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Speaker 4: Give me.

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Speaker 2: Texas, Show me Texas. Yeah, Texas tied Georgia with the

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Speaker 2: most at six at six. Back around to Isaac Glowincron.

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Speaker 5: Steve Hartman is forcing me to say, South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: South Carolina Seahawks drafted a game cock Show me South Carolina. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there we go. Three South Carolina players went in the

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Speaker 2: first three rounds. Back around to Mike Harmon. If you've

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Speaker 2: only got four answers left, and there are five schools

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Speaker 2: that didn't have a player drafted in the first three

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Speaker 2: rounds of the SEC, so now it's tilted the other way.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we go back and forth. Did we

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Speaker 1: have an LSU Tiger?

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Speaker 2: Show me LSU? Yes, absolutely, we had one. Fourth overall,

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Speaker 2: Will Campbell, Yeah, going to New England, All right, Chris Purfett,

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Speaker 2: I know this.

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Speaker 4: Because of my Lions coverage. Isaac Teslaw, although his hometown's

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Speaker 4: in Michigan, he went to Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's call the Hogs. Show me Arkansas two players drafted.

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Speaker 2: All right, we heard down to the two schools in

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Speaker 2: all of this. By the way, give me a ding,

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Speaker 2: Give me a ding. Mike Carmen was right, I overlooked

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. So there are no strikes. So

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Speaker 2: there's one answer left, Stuart. Yes, you're absolutely right on that.

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Speaker 2: That's my bad on that.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, He forces one of our conversation points

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Speaker 1: for next hour.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to Shay. We have a

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Speaker 2: perfect board going by the way, which is what answer left?

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Speaker 2: By the way, Well, think about it, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a little time. So we've got Georgia, Texas, LSU, Alabama,

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M, South Carolina, Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Kentucky.

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Speaker 10: So, so you didn't say Florida, I'm gonna go Florida,

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Speaker 10: gonna go Florida? Is it Florida? It is not Florida.

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Speaker 10: So Florida is our first strike of the game. Over

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Speaker 10: to Isaac Lohan Kron. This is like that scoring change.

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Speaker 2: We had a Major League Baseball quicksip the other way,

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Speaker 2: like we kept it intact.

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Speaker 5: Michael ka is now furious about it. All right, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna between these two.

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Speaker 2: Who are you who you're debating between.

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Speaker 6: I'm debating between Ole Miss and Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right.

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Speaker 5: Don't let me down Lane Ole Miss.

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Speaker 2: Show me ole Miss Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Yes, traded back us.

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Speaker 2: Good job. So the the five schools Mississippi State, Vandy, Florida, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: and Auburn did not have a player.

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Speaker 1: Florida, Oklahoma, and Auburn do they get relegated? Since we're

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Speaker 1: talking about rats and moving up another level.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you they did have players drafted after the

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Speaker 2: third round. It was only Mississippi State the only SEC

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Speaker 2: school to have no players drafted in the draft. Crazy madness. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there were seven power for schools. Mike's Almama or Mississippi State, Houston,

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Speaker 2: Duke BYU, Baylor, and Wake Forest did not have players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, next week we'll and some college football trading cards

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Speaker 1: on air. But next we talk more on the draft.

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Speaker 1: He's Dan on Mike. It's Fox Grant Eggs. Another hour

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Speaker 1: of audio greatness coming your way. It's Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carbon alongside Dan Byer having a

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Speaker 1: blast with you with a lot of draft talk coming

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Speaker 1: up this hour. We did some NBA playoffs a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier, more from a management perspective, So you can

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Speaker 1: find that as the podcast goes up. After we get

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Speaker 1: off the air, we've got the Knicks and the Pistons

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Speaker 1: getting ready to tip off here Dan, another hotly contested

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Speaker 1: battle here, And I gotta say, for a guy whose

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Speaker 1: team has not really been relevant since the late nineties, bolls,

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Speaker 1: I love that we're playing physical. I'm going to attack

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Speaker 1: you and beat you down basketball in these NBA playoffs. Now,

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Speaker 1: it might not always be esthetically pleasing. We might go

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Speaker 1: to the review board a little bit longer than we

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Speaker 1: need to game the game. But I'd like when the

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Speaker 1: intensity gets ratcheted up and at least for a minute,

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Speaker 1: we're not saying these guys all love each other.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, playing defense happens in the playoffs. Shock, you

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Speaker 2: have quarters that aren't forty five points like you can

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Speaker 2: do at times in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's the over under for the Lakers in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter today? Because I want to bet the under.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look it up.

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Speaker 2: Man. The what a great series that's been. There's been

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Speaker 2: a bunch of good series so far. One that's already

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Speaker 2: over with the thunder dispatching the Memphis Grizzlies. But I

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Speaker 2: can't say that it has been disappointing because we've had

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Speaker 2: some back and forth. We have the drama with the

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Speaker 2: Clippers and Nuggets. That series has been great. Heck, Clippers

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Speaker 2: blew a fifteen point lead in the first half in

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Speaker 2: Game one. Nuggets. Sure, we're blown out in Game three,

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Speaker 2: but Game two is a dandy Yesterday craziness, Nuggets end

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Speaker 2: up prevailing. It's been a good first week of the

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs. Buck's got a huge win Friday to make

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Speaker 2: that a series. Because they don't win that then today,

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Speaker 2: I think is kind of the throwaway and maybe they

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Speaker 2: they pack it up against Indiana and now you've got

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Speaker 2: two teams that hate each other and that's a series.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, really really good stuff so far.

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Speaker 1: Well, and they won't be relegated to some internet service

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Speaker 1: for this one. This will be gotten prime time national

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Speaker 1: television ESPN.

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Speaker 2: You, Mike, I like you could even do ESPN two.

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Speaker 1: I say, ESPN three for the Warriors yesterday if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to watch it, Like.

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Speaker 2: What gives you the streaming option? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, it's just crazy, you know, just really quickly. The

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Speaker 1: Nuggets Clippers series is one that I'm torn as to

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Speaker 1: who to cheer for to advance right. Part of me

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Speaker 1: wants the Clippers to do it, like I love the

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Speaker 1: chaos and the fighting that happens around the office and

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Speaker 1: everything when the Clippers and Lakers are trying to advance.

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Speaker 1: I love the old guys. I'm very much you know

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Speaker 1: this about me. For as many shows as we've done

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Speaker 1: through the years, the longer guys can play well through

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Speaker 1: their years, I don't feel quite so. Yes, even if

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Speaker 1: Gary Trent Junior is running around out a court and

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Speaker 1: guys named Junior where I watched their dad's full careers,

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Speaker 1: but to see that. But on the other side, I

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Speaker 1: like chaos when you fire a coach in GM and

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Speaker 1: then suddenly go on a run. Like the different parts to.

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Speaker 2: That, I think. And Jokic is a guy that people

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Speaker 2: I think Cheer four in a way and maybe not

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Speaker 2: maybe not universally. I don't think that he's polarizing, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody hates Nicola Jokicic by any means.

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Speaker 2: But he is a guy that you can like in

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Speaker 2: Cheer four just because of how good he is, how

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Speaker 2: skilled he is, and how much he really just doesn't

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Speaker 2: care about all of the the hype and everything. I

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Speaker 2: think he's a completely likable player. I'm not a huge

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Speaker 2: Nuggets fan, and because I just think that there are

843
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Speaker 2: certain warts on that team, but every team's got them.

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Speaker 2: I just would like to see the Kawhi Harden duo

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Speaker 2: and not to exclude Norma Powell, but just name brand

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Speaker 2: wise though, those two to advance in what a series

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Speaker 2: it could be with Oklahoma City and see what we.

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Speaker 1: Get out of that. My brothers, who really don't care

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Speaker 1: much for the NBA, and again, the Bulls haven't been

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Speaker 1: good forever, so you know on yours, it's like anything

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Speaker 1: takes up less oxygen, right, because you got to pick

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Speaker 1: and choose. As you get older, you got responsibilities. Like

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Speaker 1: in our jobs. You know, there are certain sports that

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Speaker 1: I still love. But the kids, travels and everything and

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Speaker 1: everything they've got going on. It's like, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: the window. That's that's what it's got to be. So

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Speaker 1: we pay attention, and if it's not something that's going

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Speaker 1: to be front and center with what we do on air,

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Speaker 1: it pushes to the side. But the point to my

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Speaker 1: brothers is they love Nicola Jokic because he's a horseman

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Speaker 1: and He loves nothing more than to go sit in

862
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: a sulky and just ride around a track that it's

863
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: away from the trappings of fame and fortune and everything.

864
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, do I have to stay for

865
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: this parade? Like when they won, Literally it was like,

866
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: can I get on a.

867
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: Plane and get out of here? I got some horses

868
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: to go and too. Yeah. Absolutely, there's something very very

869
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: refreshing about that. Plus with the West and how much

870
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: of a log jam it was. You knew the four

871
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: or five and the three sixth series were gonna be good.

872
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: But here in the East, Orlando goes and wins a

873
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: game against the Boston team that isn't completely healthy, and

874
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: I think we think that Boston ultimately wins that series,

875
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: but it's nice for the young Orlando crew to at

876
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: least get that game in and who knows what happens.

877
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: You know in game four, Crazier things have happened. So

878
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's been good so far. In the Top

879
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The top seeds being as dominant

880
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: as they have been, the Calves and Thunder for the

881
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Thunder to sweep and the Calves being on the verge

882
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: of it, it's also probably better for the bracket because

883
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: now we have fewer questions about specifically Cleveland because they

884
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: went in that spot before. But if Cleveland can go

885
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: and sweep the heat, now we're saying, okay, maybe there's

886
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: more legitimacy to it, which puts our interest more into

887
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference semifinal.

888
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: Talk about the depth of that roster, no question about it.

889
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: As we run through Boston's interesting. I don't know that

890
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: there is deep you know. The more I look at them,

891
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: and then you get the walking wound, You got the

892
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: headmoon for poor Zingis and plays through Jalen Brown obviously

893
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: with his issues, and then Jason Tatum at least silence

894
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: any questions with this thirty six point performance. But all

895
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: of that to say, we've got more excitement and drama

896
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: and we get these moments of battling as we roll through. Hey,

897
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: you can stream this show and all our Fox Sports

898
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,719
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899
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902
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,560
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00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: on your radio dial, so be sure to preset Fox

904
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app, and I'll always pop

905
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: up at the top of your screen. Now, turning our

906
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: attention back to the NFL Draft, we'll do some winners,

907
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: losers fantasy ramifications as we continue this hour, Dan, But

908
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: we'd be remiss we didn't circle back to the biggest

909
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: story because it's a reflection of media. And now we're

910
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: not media critics. And certainly folks could parse out plenty

911
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: of what I say on a daily basis, and my

912
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: show Here with You, the podcast, random random rantings on

913
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: the internet, interwebs, and the four hours I do with Smith,

914
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: and you can get after it and pick it apart,

915
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: have at it.

916
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: That's fine, Hey, same thing with me. Harmon can yell

917
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: at me. I told him he was wrong in the

918
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: feud and he was actually right. So we do make

919
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: mistakes at times, we do, Yeah, and I take full responsibility,

920
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: take full responsibility.

921
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: It's all good. There's you know, there's things you're going

922
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: stream of consciousness, like, we don't work from scripts. We

923
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: may have a couple of notes of where we want

924
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: to head, but it's not always a Hey.

925
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: And that wasn't an oversight. Literally, it's on the list here.

926
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: It just was mixed in the middle.

927
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Well, glad digress, but you know, you look to another

928
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: line out him. You're trying to direct traffic, get the ding,

929
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: all of those things. But I just wanted to say,

930
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: but for Sidur Sanders, it's there. It is the story

931
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: of the weekend, and it'll continue for a while because

932
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: now it becomes the earn it part of the process.

933
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Drafted one hundred and forty fourth by the Cleveland Browns.

934
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: All my Life's to circle again, old radio hit from

935
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: Harry Chapin, but we we get back to Cleveland where

936
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: he was originally mocked. So now it's just the battle.

937
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: Get past Dylan Gabriel, take it down the veteran quarterbacks,

938
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: but maybe at at a lesser pressure point than you

939
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: would have had. I don't know that that's necessarily true

940
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: because of who he is in the surname, because he

941
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: can't dismiss the surname because that's part of what built

942
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: the legends rightsolutely, So like folks that want to parse it,

943
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: if his name wasn't Sanders, we wouldn't have cared about

944
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: him the same way because they were a five hundred

945
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: team no.

946
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: And also if his name wasn't Sanders, there wouldn't be

947
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: the draft party that it was. There wouldn't have been Dionne.

948
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna build one of those boxes though. I'm gonna

949
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: start doing videos out of something rice spray paint, a

950
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: bunch of random.

951
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: They're just that would be awesome. It looked cool like.

952
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: It looked like something out of the Suicide Squad, and

953
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: and Jared Leto's joker.

954
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and the reason and the reason I

955
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 2: blamed Dion we talked about earlier. If you missed it.

956
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: The reason I blamed Dion not for all of the

957
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: flash stuff. I don't care about that. I don't care

958
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: what you do with your draft party and that stuff

959
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: I think helps in recruiting at Colorado. I think all

960
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: of that works as a bigger picture. But it's Dion

961
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: being the former NFL player and Hall of Famer that

962
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: knows the inner workings of the NFL. And it's easy

963
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: when you're primetime and you're a top five pick in

964
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: the Alanta Falcons in nineteen eighty nine, are going to say,

965
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't care if there's any any blowback or whatever.

966
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: This guy's talent is too good. Same thing with Eli Manning.

967
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't care if he says he doesn't want to

968
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: go to San Diego. We're taking him and we're going

969
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: to figure it out. And the Chargers got the best deal.

970
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: Should Or Sanders' talent level was not up to the

971
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: power of it to those players. So when you're again

972
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: ducking those you know, ducking those interviews and not interviewing

973
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: well and not throwing and saying other things, and Dion

974
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: tweeting he's going to go top five, all of that

975
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: could come back to bite you, no.

976
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Question about it. At Dan Byron Fox rEFInd Dan find

977
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: me over at Swollen Dome. But the criticism of the

978
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: lack of a Shudor Sanders pick became a big side

979
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: show to the coverage of the draft. Now, mel Kiper

980
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: one of the godfathers of the draft punditry industry that

981
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: has begotten so many big names through the years. Daniel

982
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: Jeremiah obviously friend of the network and does his work

983
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: with the Chargers and NFL Network. One of the rising stars.

984
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: You got, Matt Miller, you got a bunch of guys

985
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: that are in this business. But mel Kiper gets front

986
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: and center. It's always the all right, let's see Mel's

987
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: big board, and let's see his draft prospecting. And when

988
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders didn't go, it almost became the personal affront,

989
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: as if thirty two teams had risen up against mel

990
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: Kiper junior, not even against schidor Sanders. At that point,

991
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: let's say hear a little of mel Kiper in audio

992
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: that you can't get. I don't get it.

993
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't you know.

994
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 11: But here we are the fifth round. Cleveland Browns get

995
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 11: a guy who should have been a first round pick,

996
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 11: a high first round pick. If you look at the sliders, right,

997
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 11: the guys who slid the NFL D they know everything

998
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 11: done at all because the guys that have slid, I

999
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 11: thought really well, Gino got into the second round and

1000
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 11: he just worked pretty well. Right, Chavick, Floss and Brady

1001
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 11: went didn't but ans Aaron Rodgers, Chad Pennicton went eighteen.

1002
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Brett Farr's second round.

1003
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 11: Boomer size was second Rald Dan Marino late first round,

1004
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 11: and now you have a situation with short dropped into

1005
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 11: the fifth rold Tom Brady.

1006
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: Everybody said, okay, crown pick Tom Brady was drafted. There

1007
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: was a quarterback that went eighteenth.

1008
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 11: That was Chad Pennick, the quarterback went with her brown.

1009
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: That was che Levanni part Mosey from Coffey.

1010
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 11: But toom Breggy got there, we didn tell Robert Brat

1011
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 11: like femsaf, Hey, you're six topics. I yeah, you're the

1012
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 11: best mistission durers.

1013
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: Is they sever page?

1014
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 11: That's that's me right.

1015
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: We'll talk about are you confident?

1016
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 8: Cocky?

1017
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: Are you arrogant? Are you charismatic?

1018
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: There's that fine line there.

1019
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of such an isn't reality

1020
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 11: in regards to Chador and beyond Beyond's back.

1021
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: On interfere you have not to be calling the coach.

1022
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 11: You have have to be commenting about Shador while he's

1023
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 11: in Colorado.

1024
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 5: Bo.

1025
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of.

1026
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: The jun's out there.

1027
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 11: Sadie Sanders family is the door beyond.

1028
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: All right. So he continues to go on in uh

1029
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: rants about the draft proSP process and how teams have

1030
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: gotten things wrong for fifty years and he's taken the

1031
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: for for lack of a better term, the Hank Scorpio flamethrowts.

1032
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: See I'd got that Simpsons reference, Go Fox where he's

1033
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: just standing there laughing like a lunatic telling you how

1034
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: everybody gets it wrong. It's like, yeah, it's an exact science.

1035
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: You don't need to give me the resumes of all

1036
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: these guys. And anytime you invoke Tom Brady's name in

1037
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: any of this stuff, it's like, shut up. You want

1038
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: to talk about a guy that goes in the second round. Great,

1039
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a guy you can't keep

1040
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: bringing up the greatest quarterback or the second if you

1041
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: want to be the Montana perfectionist, whatever, you can't use

1042
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: him as the example. Whenever we do this, you absolutely

1043
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: undercut everything else you just said. You know, Tom Brady's like, yes, okay,

1044
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: there's that guy in all of these years. Everything else

1045
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: is fine, mister irrelevant with Brock Pirdy, Hey, Tony Roman,

1046
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: he can get drafted. Keep going, come on, keep going, Mel,

1047
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: Joe Thaisman, let's grab every one of these guys up.

1048
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback was a fifth round pick. Let's just keep

1049
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: doing it all. But it's like condemning the entire thing,

1050
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, And it's not that Mel has to say

1051
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: he's wrong because he may not be Shad or may

1052
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: go out on the field and be a star. But

1053
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: until he does it telling everybody they're an idiot for

1054
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: not drafting him. Come on, you know how this process works.

1055
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: You're not a babe in the woods where this is

1056
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: your first time completely You did a couple of Internet

1057
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: TikTok videos and someone said you're now our number one

1058
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: lead draft analyst.

1059
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I think it was personal to Melt

1060
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: for this reason. When you look at the NFL draft

1061
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: and this has been the case with Mel Kuiper for

1062
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: a while. From what I have heard from people that

1063
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: have done the draft and cover the draft is there's agents,

1064
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: there's scouts, there's guys who have been in front offices.

1065
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: They're all leaps and bounds ahead of everybody else, guys

1066
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: who have done this for so long. Kiper's done it

1067
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: for so long, but he's never been that guy. So

1068
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: while the NFL people, well, they appreciate Mel Kuiper putting

1069
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: in the work, it's not really a true scout like

1070
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: a Daniel Jeremiah who's been in NFL front offices and

1071
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: has been on that side of things, or like Mike

1072
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: Mayock in prior to that. Kuiper's been his own character.

1073
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: And part of this part of the deal with Kuiper

1074
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 2: and why I think he's loved by ESPN is this showmanship.

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Speaker 2: But what I think happens is Kuiper takes it personally Mike,

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00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: because he's not on the other side of the velvet rope,

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00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: hasn't been in a front office, so he feels like

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00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: he has more to prove. And then when he's wrong

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00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: or way off in this instance, I almost feel that

1080
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: he feels as it's an indictment on him as a

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00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: draft analyst, So then you get really worked up over it.

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00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: And I would say, outside of Schador's fall, mel Kuiper's

1083
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: actually the second biggest story from this draft. So for ESPN,

1084
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: mission accomplished. Yes, for mel Kuiper, it's actually mission accomplished.

1085
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: We're talking more about you than we are about actual

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00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: guys who are drafted over the previous three days, and

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00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: so ultimately, for them it's probably a win. But I

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00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: do think that melk Kuiper takes it personally because he

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00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: still ultimately is an outsider looking in.

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00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: You think he ever had maybe that opportunity to go

1091
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: once and he pulled it, you know, like Deon' tweet

1092
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen, If the the Browns call me, I'd

1093
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: not go I'd pull an eli. So maybe it was

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00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: an organization he didn't want to work with and that

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: call never came again.

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00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: If it got that far, I somewhere long.

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: Long ago, there was just maybe a chance.

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00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: Right, Like that's yeah, if that's you know, you gotta

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00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: can't have it both ways. Well, what's part of it?

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Speaker 3: Right?

1101
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: Like we do a fantasy football podcast, the Outwatch Flex podcast.

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00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: This content will show up on the feed so you

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: can evangelize to your your friends and family and I'll

1104
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: have the podcast up wherever you get your audio as

1105
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: we finish. But for the longest time, it was a

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: fight with NFL players and former players to recognize the

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: value of it until it started lining their pockets and

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00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: created a bunch of job opportunity. They fought tooth and nail.

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00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: I remember going and being part of a big panel

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00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: at an event in the Bay Area around the year

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00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: two thousand, when when was Darren McFadden drafted.

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00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been like seven eight.

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so it's even that late and I

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00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: go and I do this event and it's got a

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of big shots. They pay a

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00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: lot of money to go and sit with an ex

1117
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: NFL guy, all Bay Area guys at the draft, and

1118
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: so like everybody's sitting around this exciting stuff, and Tom

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: Rathman decides he's gonna start fighting with me over like

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Speaker 1: because I'm doing analysis of people's picks and I'm trying

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: to be kind because again, they paid a lot of

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: money to sit in this room. And at one table

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Speaker 1: you got Jerry Rice, there's Marcus Allen, there's Raftman, there's

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00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, Bay Area guys. McFadden's there,

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Speaker 1: all all these things, and it's the they in the

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00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: first round, they take take the Bears and the Bears defense,

1127
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are we doing? And he starts

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00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: yelling about Devin Heshtem like I'm not questioning, like I'm

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00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: a Bears fan. Yes, fantasy, like you know this, unless

1130
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: people are dumb. He's not returning that many kicks for touchdowns. Again,

1131
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: the defense is not gonna score a scoop and score

1132
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: every other game. The math just doesn't work. And like

1133
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: we're having it and it makes for a great contested

1134
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: back and forth, but it's just the idea that all

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00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden they realized how much money this was

1136
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: adding to the bank much like the better side of

1137
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: things now of how much that helped the game and

1138
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: then created a lot of jobs to go do content

1139
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: on it, and then all of a sudden everybody was

1140
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: on board same thing here. That's the lunatic over there

1141
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: talking about draft process or whatever. It's like, wait, there's

1142
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: a whole industry that can be made here, Yes, about

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00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: analyzing this coach, this GM and the process.

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00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Dan Patrick's saluting and wanting them to go

1145
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: and have mel Kiper in the Hall of Fame for

1146
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: what he's done. And I think that all of that was,

1147
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: you know, accomplished for what ESPN wants on it. They're

1148
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: happiest can be for how this is all played out,

1149
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: and it's I guess in a way it's what makes

1150
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: Kuiper kuiper, because there hasn't been Kiper moments as of late.

1151
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: When you were replaying, you were playing back from the nineties.

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00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: No, that's true.

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Now we've got some new material.

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: Well it's only appropriate coming out of WrestleMania that we

1155
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: got some uh lunacy at the MIC and we got

1156
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: all those w WE superstars to show up on Draft Day.

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Speaker 1: He's Dan Byer on Mike Carmen, It's Fox Sports Sunday

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00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: here Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next some winners and losers,

1159
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: head scratchers, Nah, losers from the Draft. We'll do that

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Speaker 1: next here on Fox Loser. Hey, welcome back in Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Is Fox Sports Sunday. Mike Carmen, Dan Byre,

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: Brody Byre with you here on a beautiful Sunday morning,

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00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: having a blast your Rider. Draft coverage on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: code Sports. We just like being at the party, Dan

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 1: dan Byer on Fox at Swollen Dome and we're here

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Speaker 1: and we're coming out of the draft, and that immediately

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01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: means we've got to give report cards and figure out

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: who got things right or wrong before a single bag

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Speaker 1: has been unpacked at a team facility.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what and on one of the teams

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01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: that stands out and I'm not sure if it's I

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: don't know, they get an A plus so they'll get

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01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: an F. But Tom, I'll tell you this much. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's the Jacksonville Jaguars, I'll tell you what. When your

1178
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: son is riding shotgun with you at four years old

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: and you say, hey, we need you, you know, we

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: need you to be quiet a little bit, it's uh,

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01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: we got about thirty seconds in no.

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Speaker 1: But it's excited utterances. I mean he saw a touchdown,

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: catch guy dive into the ground. I mean he's got

1184
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: hockey action. We got a guy checked into the boards.

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you my win. I'm gonna tell you

1187
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: my win. When Shay put on Disney Channel for my

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: son who's instant with us right next to me, Brody

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: just turned four this week. He put on Disney Channel

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: and I said, do you want to watch this? He says, no,

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: I want to watch golf, football, and basketball. So I'm like, hey,

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: we we can do can do with that, So we

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Speaker 2: are good. We are We aren't good with that.

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Speaker 1: Just be careful. The big asks come later on. I

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01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: love what I'll tell you what. I love what the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars did. I love what the Jaguars did. In the

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: case of they need.

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Speaker 2: A superstar, Travis Trevor Lawrence is not translated, and I

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: think Travis Hunter has a way to translate as a superstar.

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Speaker 2: So you go in and you try to you try

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: to translate to try to make that superstar. This is

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Speaker 2: a bad idea, Mike, this is a bad idea. He

1203
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: just do not have your four year old son. He

1204
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 2: just sit next to you during a radio show.

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Speaker 1: He's just saying he did not believe the young GM

1206
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville did the right thing. That's all that all

1207
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: there is to it. But I think your point you

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01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: got Lawrence that you're trying. He was the generational guy

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01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: and you're trying to get him over. This is the

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01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: year that you have to decide is he your guy

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Speaker 1: for the long haul. We can talk contracts and play

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Speaker 1: games with that all you want, but it's the all right,

1213
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna push all in to give you every possible

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Speaker 1: resource that we can. So making the bold move to

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Speaker 1: go get Travis Hunter, use them both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 1: gives you a superstar. Maybe takes a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the heat off of Lawrence to that regard, but you

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Speaker 1: look at what they now have offensively, and I don't

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01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: know that Etn's ever That guy Bigsby has acquitted himself

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Speaker 1: quite nicely. You lose Evan Ingram, which is a pretty

1221
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Speaker 1: big loss for them. But you look at the tag

1222
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Speaker 1: team duo of Hunter and Thomas how many how many

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Speaker 1: duos do you look at and just say, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm ranking them above those two guys at least coming

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Speaker 1: into week one.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this when it comes to how things play out,

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Speaker 2: dynamic off the charts, and it was crazy because take

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01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: Bigsby was so good that they would that the gent

1229
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: rumors were popping up. But what also happens is when

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Speaker 2: you trade up for Travis Hunter and you trade your

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: first round pick next year, tells you that Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is your quarterback of the future, of the future.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at where we were two months ago,

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: remember that Steelers Trevor Lawrence rumor? Sure, remember that one

1235
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Speaker 2: that popped up. Brody remembers it like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: When you have that pop up, you're saying, maybe they

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Speaker 2: don't believe in Trevor Lawrence. Well, now you don't have

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Speaker 2: a first round pick next year, and what would be

1239
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: a heavily we think quarterback driven draft. The Jaguars saying like, no,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to go that route. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go a different route. I think that said a lot.

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Speaker 1: I love the boldness of it, no question about it.

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01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: For me, I'm always infrastructure. So anytime you get a

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: team that really builds their interior offensive line or gets

1245
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: on the defensive side and says we need a front four,

1246
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: it comes back to you, I need a thrower, I

1247
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: need an attacker, and I need a protector. It's the

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Speaker 1: tap eerie of Mike Carbon football. Now we're gonna kick

1249
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: it over to Isaac Longngroud. We'll go through some more

1250
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: winners and losers for the draft. We certainly have plenty

1251
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: of teams and individuals. But first it's I low, what's

1252
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: going on in this UFL game? I just kidding.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's at the Texas Rangers former stadium, which now

1254
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 5: has a different name, and let's be honest, that's probably

1255
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Speaker 5: the most notable thing about that. However, Detroit Pistons fans

1256
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 5: might be tuning over to that game soon because it's

1257
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 5: been all New York Knicks at the start of Game

1258
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 5: four of the NBA Playoffs, the Knicks with a twenty

1259
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: six to fifteen lead at Detroit with one forty four

1260
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: left in the first quarter and the Knicks leading the

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Speaker 5: series two games to one, and the Knicks red hot

1262
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 5: to begin this game shooting fifty five percent from the

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 5: field and are four out of six from three point range,

1264
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 5: counting up with three to thirty. Eastern Game four from

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Speaker 5: Minneapolis with the Timberwolves leading the Los Angeles Lakers two

1266
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Speaker 5: games to one. And by the way, we have a

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 5: new Magic Johnson tweet to pass to you, whoa all

1268
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 5: right magic man posted a short time ago, and I quote,

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01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 5: if you haven't been watching the NBA playoffs, you've missed

1270
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 5: intense and physical basketball. If I were you, I wouldn't

1271
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 5: miss these matchups today. All the games are important because

1272
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 5: either teams will go up three to one or tie

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01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 5: the series at two to two. Unquote, Yeah, you cannot know, Ai,

1274
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Speaker 5: Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Is that where we've gotten to it?

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 6: Or you know what?

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 5: I hate to say it, but I think AI would

1278
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 5: even be more insightful.

1279
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: Did we screw it up by creating the Magic Johnson

1280
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: Twitter games Jason Smith and I Yes you did.

1281
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 6: You've created a monster.

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Often imitated, never do, never do any went into the

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Speaker 1: shadows for a while, and now he comes back with

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Speaker 1: this milk toast stuff.

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Speaker 5: It is back with a vengeance here in the NBA

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Speaker 5: plays out of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, where in Game

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Speaker 5: four from Saint Louis, the Winnipeg Jets and the Blues

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Speaker 5: are scoreless with eight minutes left to play in the

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Speaker 5: first period and Winnipeg leading that series two games to one. Finally, today,

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Speaker 5: the television program CBS This Morning did a profile on

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Speaker 5: North Carolina head coach and former New England Patriots head

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Speaker 5: coach Bill Belichick, who's coming out with a new book

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Speaker 5: next month. The piece featured this exchange when Belichick was

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Speaker 5: asked about Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

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Speaker 7: I have to ask by Robert Craft because twenty four

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Speaker 7: years together, six Super Bowls. He's not in this book.

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Speaker 2: How comes not?

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Speaker 8: Well again, it's about my life lessons in football, and

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Speaker 8: it's really more about the ones that I experienced directly.

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Speaker 7: He's not even in the acknowledgment session.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Awkward.

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Speaker 5: And then after that delightful exchange, Belichick was also asked

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Speaker 5: about how he met his girlfriend Jordan Hudson. When Hudson

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01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 5: interceded from off camera, listen, how did you guys meet?

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Speaker 6: Not talking about this?

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Speaker 5: No, no, on that note, as Steve Hartman's jaw drops

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Speaker 5: he is literally speechless for the first time I've known

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Speaker 5: him since I was listening to him in my crib

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Speaker 5: Back to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I think he probably has some theories that he's going

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Speaker 1: to espouse here coming up in about twenty five minutes.

1313
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Either that or he was just trying to torment your son.

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01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: How about the fact that Belichick wore his best suit

1315
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: for that interview, and by that I mean off whole filled,

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01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: not navy blue, but an actual Naval Academy sweatshirt.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go to your history, gotta have your structure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Hilo. You bet guys at Isaac Lowenkron where you

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Speaker 1: find him in the twitterver'se find Dan at Dan byern Fox.

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Speaker 1: Find me over at Swollen Dome talking winners in lieu

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: losers of this draft. And I want to bring up

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: a name because we talked about him a little bit

1323
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: last hour. Came up as part of the feud with

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01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: the drafting of Stuart to the offense or defensive line

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Speaker 1: there in Cincinnati. Is Trey Hendrickson a winner or a

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Speaker 1: loser when he gets traded?

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Speaker 2: I think he's a winner because somebody's gonna pay him, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's the ultimate, top of mar ultimate.

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate goal in all of this. It's not

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01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: of wanting to bring a Super Bowl to Cincinnati. It's

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: it's getting paid that Max Crosby type of money. I

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: don't know, he won't get Miles Garrett type of money.

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Speaker 2: But that's the ultimate goal. So in the end, he's

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Speaker 2: going to get paid. And that's the biggest.

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Speaker 1: There's your win. Look, because you know, Miles Garrett said

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about winning Cleveland's over unders at

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01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: four and a half wins for this year, so you know,

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Speaker 1: believe what what actually happens when the ink goes to paper.

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01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: I did mock success successfully, Mack Stewart to the because

1340
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: I wanted chaos. Okay, so I got so I got

1341
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: out a right. I liked Arizona and what they did.

1342
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: Finally just saying all right, we're gonna go to the

1343
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: complete defensive side of the ball. We're gonna try to

1344
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: get some balance, give Kyler Murray a punter's chance so

1345
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to score thirty five forty points a game.

1346
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: So you go and you really build out and maybe

1347
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: he got a two guys that fell in the draft

1348
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: to them.

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: The Will Johnson pick I mean if he stays healthy,

1350
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean you're probably getting a top fifteen there. Listen,

1351
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: early on in the process, Will Johnson was going five

1352
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: to Jacksonville, so for him to go forty seven, so

1353
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: there's at least belief there. Ultimately, what ends up happening

1354
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 2: on Draft nine or people get scared of injuries and

1355
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: availability and you get scared because of your job security,

1356
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: and so you end up making decisions and so Will

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: Johnson ends up falling. But yeah, that's that was a

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01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: top ten, top five projected pick early in this process

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 2: that they get at forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Or how about you give one more guy and then

1361
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: goes to your Ohio State buck Eys, and that's Egbuka

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 1: going down to Tampa. Now, we don't know what this

1363
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: team looks like come twenty twenty six and be on,

1364
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: but give me one year. I mean, Chris Godwin's coming back,

1365
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: signed a new deal but physically coming off a really big,

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: big injury. You got Mike Evans for one more run,

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: and now you give Egbuka to that receiving corps that

1368
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: already added McMillan a year. Yes, you're talking about a

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: lot of weaponry in a division that's there to be having.

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Speaker 2: And here's the funny thing about Abuka, because when he

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: came to Ohio State, he was the cream of the crop,

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: five star recruit, but then you end up playing it

1373
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: all out and he never was the number one guy.

1374
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: Whether it be Jeremiah Smith last year or Marvin Harrison

1375
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: here prior. It'll be the same thing in Tampa. When

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: he's not the number one guy, it'll be Mike Evans

1377
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: or Chris Godwin, and both may not be three or four,

1378
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: but I think that he'll fit in nicely. And man,

1379
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: Tampa feels like they've got something going on offense if

1380
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: they're ready to run this back. Bucky Irving was gretastic

1381
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: great last year, so now you expect more from that

1382
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: running game. And now they're willing to go wide receiver

1383
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: at that spot. Yeah, they want to score points in Tampa.

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01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: Apparently, I'm gonna give you one more and then I

1385
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: know you had one team that you wanted to spotlight. Yeah,

1386
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: in the same division. I'm going to give credit to

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I thought they would do something crazy and

1388
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 1: give up every pick to go make a splash.

1389
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: M HM.

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 1: Smith and I talked about it. He thought it was genty.

1391
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: I figured it was going to be all right, we're

1392
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna grab a receiver. Does he rate twelve to overall?

1393
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,839
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, but we're going to do something splash. Instead,

1394
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: they stayed the course and to my thinking, made some

1395
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: pretty smart picks going to the offensive line with Booker

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:42,480
Speaker 1: with their first and then later on who was it?

1397
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: The name's now escaping me? I had it written down

1398
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: and now I can't read my own writing as Araku

1399
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: at all. Right, so you add to your defensive front

1400
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: and then keep going. And it was all guys, and

1401
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: this was the draft for We talked about it a

1402
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: lot last last week, you and I and we dragged

1403
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: in Chris Perfatt as he was doing his for Pride

1404
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: of Detroit.

1405
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: Is.

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: While it's not a shiny object draft, there's a lot

1407
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: of bases to be covered and infrastructure to be built

1408
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: for these squads. So when teams didn't necessarily act desperately,

1409
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: I give them credit for Yeah.

1410
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: And I know people are like, get CD, give CD lamb,

1411
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: or give DAK another weapon outside of c D Lamb.

1412
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: I get all of that. But when Dallas was good,

1413
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 2: they were good up front. So I have no problem

1414
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 2: with with Tyler Booker, and you're gonna have to replace

1415
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: pieces on defense. Remember DeMarcus Lawrence is now in Seattle,

1416
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: so you've gotta you gotta. I don't want to say

1417
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: reload because it's more than reloading with Dallas, but I

1418
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: get that the team that I liked in that division,

1419
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 2: the Giants, aren't obvious pick. But here's why I like

1420
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: the Giants for the reason of if Brian Dable and

1421
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: Joe Shane are trying to save their jobs, the way

1422
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: that they do that is to attach it to a

1423
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: young quarterback. Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson are not going

1424
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: to save Joe Shane and Brian Dable for to have

1425
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: long careers. Of the Giants, Jackson Dart will also Mike.

1426
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 2: For all the flack that Joe Shane got last year

1427
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 2: in the Hard Knocks off season, how great would it

1428
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: have been to see this process, Like I felt like

1429
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: the Giants should have done it again just to show hey,

1430
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: that wasn't just it was a different situation. Then we'll

1431
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: show you what it's like now when maybe they're on

1432
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: the offensive. In terms of what you're gonna do with

1433
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: the draft, I think they're gonna put Joe Shane in

1434
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: the Giants front office in a great, great light. But

1435
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: unfortunately we'll never see that again because nobody wants to

1436
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: do off season hard knocks. But what a great opportunity

1437
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: it would have been for the Giants to see what

1438
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: they do and move and shake and why they ultimately

1439
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: wanted to take Jackson Dart over sad Or Sanders. That

1440
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: would have been great television. Unfortunately we won't get it.

1441
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Well, maybe they did something behind the scenes, because again,

1442
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: the worst of the Joe Shane stuff from last year

1443
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: was stuff that he wasn't. He came off as whiny

1444
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: and needy, But I don't think the analysis was wrong. Yes,

1445
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: like in the end, Saquon Barkley wasn't leading into a

1446
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: promise land And this is lost in a lot of it, right,

1447
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: and I'll continue to bang the drum. In the age

1448
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: of the New Age of the running back, all of

1449
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: those great running backs went to great teams with good

1450
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: to great offensive lines. It's no coincidence. With the exception

1451
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: of Joe Mixon. He was the only guy that you

1452
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: look at the squad and say he outperformed. But we

1453
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: still had great expectations for what Houston was gonna be

1454
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: so he achieved despite the offensive line falling apart. But

1455
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:35,520
Speaker 1: everybody else went to teams Green Bay, Baltimore in Philadelphia

1456
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: where we're talking about their offensive lines as some of

1457
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: the best in football. So it's no surprise. So Joe

1458
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: Shane got a lot of flak. I mean, the hey,

1459
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: can you give us a call thing did not play well,

1460
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: but the hey, go find the market because we're not

1461
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 1: meeting that number was not wrongheaded analysis.

1462
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: And people forget too. They did try to make a

1463
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: deal with the Patriots, even though he knew it was

1464
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 2: a feudal attempt that New England was likely going to

1465
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: go with Draco may memory made that call and just

1466
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: say just wanted to check in and he totally sold

1467
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: at number three and they were at that time. So

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: I feel that they got such a bad rap because

1469
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: of it was worst case scenario for them in John

1470
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 2: Merrill's comments, But if you would have had cameras in

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: this draft room, I think you would have changed a

1472
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: lot of narratives about Joe Shane and Brian Davie Wow.

1473
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: And Brian Dable going to take a victory lap because

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: that video now making the rounds of the Shador Sanders.

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01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: Nice that went awry. He's dan byr at dan Byro

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: on Fox. Find me over at Swollend. I'm Mike Carmon.

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Speaker 1: fantasy winners and losers as we wrap things up on

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Speaker 1: NBA playoff action eight minutes, thirty seconds or so, remaining

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Speaker 1: So tag team battle Yes, nice, all right, let's battle

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Speaker 1: Shay and Chris making us sound so pretty Isaac Lowncron

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Speaker 1: at the news desk today, Dan, you're talking about from

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Speaker 1: the fantasy perspective, just a couple of minutes here. We'll

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Speaker 1: do it in Earnest in a future podcast, but a

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Speaker 1: couple of names to to kind of highlight from a

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Speaker 1: fantasy perspective. I'm gonna go to the veteran that got

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Speaker 1: helped first and look at Ted McMillan showing up in Carolina,

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Speaker 1: pushing all in on what was a good second half

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Speaker 1: of the year from Bryce Young. I think there's still

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Speaker 1: some growth to be had there. So while it's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a hey, I go draft Bryce Young, I mean

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Speaker 1: as a backup of course, two quarterback leagues, whatever else,

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Speaker 1: but you now have another steady number one option in

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Speaker 1: the fold to help accelerate that squad.

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Speaker 2: A big option as well. I think it was. It

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Speaker 2: was go get it, seize matters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as opposed to Bryce Young being sure, there you

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Speaker 1: go dollar cost averaging.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it works out. I could totally see that, and

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Speaker 2: after adding Xavier Legett yet last year in there with

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Speaker 2: the with their picks, I think it makes sense with Carolina,

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Speaker 2: so we rolled through.

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Speaker 1: There, that was one that stood out, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: me being psychotic Bears fan the overload, while I'm not,

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Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled about it, like I want a defender

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Speaker 1: or I want another offensive linean something they addressed all

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Speaker 1: off seas like, oh, it's kind of hard to argue

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Speaker 1: with the tight end and then coming back for Luther Burden, right,

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Speaker 1: so you've got you know the Ben Johnson. I go

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Speaker 1: back to the nineteen eighty nine classic movie Batman. Where

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Speaker 1: does he get those wonderful toys? Ben Johnson certainly has

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Speaker 1: a million of them.

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Speaker 2: I love what Denver did with the drafting of our

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Speaker 2: j Harvey Omari and Hampton. I like that with the

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Speaker 2: Chargers in the first round. Our buddy, our buddy Ian

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Speaker 2: Roddy on our I Want Your Flex podcast, took him

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Speaker 2: in our top sixty draft for our episode, and now

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Speaker 2: what a great situation. I know Najie Harris has his

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Speaker 2: role there, but I think Hampton's going to play well.

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Speaker 1: Oh roll right over the top and again building structure,

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Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time. You don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: need to go for the flashy toy. Hampton falls a

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Speaker 1: little bit. He mocked in a lot of drafts at

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Speaker 1: the back end of the top ten and certainly Dallas

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Speaker 1: at number twelve extole the virtues of grabbing an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: You're never going to get me to argue against those

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Speaker 1: picks as you go. And then the other is Hampton

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Speaker 1: was certainly a guy there, Burden as you look at it,

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Speaker 1: a loser. I'm going to look at Chase Brown, go

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Speaker 1: back to those Bengals because you got Taj Brooks comes

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Speaker 1: in Texas Tech thirty one hundred yard, twenty seven touchdowns

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Speaker 1: over the last two years. So a name to look

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Speaker 1: at there. And then we'll be watching where Nick Chubb goes.

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Speaker 1: Now that you add Judkins, perhaps is he the first

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Speaker 1: draft pick that was on the throne. There's so many

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Speaker 1: stories the.

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Speaker 2: RABL draft they had someone on the throne in the background.

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Speaker 2: I think that that.

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Speaker 1: Was that was well, he was actually on camera.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, the two that I liked, Mason Taylor to

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Speaker 2: the Jets, justin Fields. We saw the connection that he

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Speaker 2: had with Cole Comet in Chicago. Maybe it's continued with

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Speaker 2: the Jets when he was there. Elijah Arroyo to Seattle,

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Speaker 2: same thing with Donald and t. J. Howkinson in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Keep creating some chaos. More fantasy breakdown as the week

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Speaker 1: goes on, I have a great Sunday. You got Steve

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Speaker 1: and VJ next here on Fox