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Speaker 1: So much going on. Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmon alongside my guy Ryan Hollins, as we

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Speaker 2: should be, Ryan Hollis, did you really get was it

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Speaker 2: a restless night knowing that you'd have to get right

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Speaker 2: back up and talk to me again after joining our

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Speaker 2: show last night with Smith?

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Speaker 3: No man, not at all restless?

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Speaker 2: This guy again? My goodness, you know I turned this

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Speaker 2: one the uh. There's a classic from the Don Henley

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Speaker 2: album where he teamed up with Axel Rose back in

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Speaker 2: the day. Called I Will Not Go Quietly, and for

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Speaker 2: one night, the Dallas Mavericks channeled everything in that song

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Speaker 2: turn this thing around. I will not go quietly. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna try to do the Axl Rose. I'm not

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Speaker 2: four or five Beers or Gin and Tonics in to

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Speaker 2: where the voice will play those gymnastics for me here

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, which is probably a good thing at nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning on the West Coast. But the Mavericks,

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Speaker 2: after all the criticism Brian Windhorse, some giving him credit,

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Speaker 2: I say all he did was he was Frank the Tank,

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Speaker 2: that guy that's you know, the whole barstool Mets guy

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Speaker 2: who was mad about New Jersey traffic all those years

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Speaker 2: ago and then became a big star. If he'd just

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Speaker 2: been upper register. That's where wind Horse was with that.

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Speaker 2: The big deal was insider suddenly becoming hot take. But

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Speaker 2: Luka Dagts and the Mavericks responded in grand fashion, and

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Speaker 2: the Celtics very early in that game.

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Speaker 1: Ryan looked like They're like, yeah, we can go win

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Speaker 1: at home. That's fine.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, that very much is how it came off.

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Speaker 4: But what the one thing I do notice that I

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Speaker 4: don't think they just conceded the game, but I know,

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Speaker 4: you know, you get to a point where he said,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna live to fight again another day. The Mavericks

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Speaker 4: got a whistle, you know, Luca got a whistle. And

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Speaker 4: we talked about it yesterday, Mike.

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Speaker 3: That's the similarities to James Harden.

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Speaker 4: When he can get to the foul line, you can't

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Speaker 4: get physical with them, you can't rough them up. Man,

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Speaker 4: Luca becomes darn near impossible to guard. And in Game

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Speaker 4: three there are a number of blown calls. So Luca

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Speaker 4: was upset. It's got to be spilled milk, especially in

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Speaker 4: the NBA Finals at that point of the season. But

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Speaker 4: for him, he did so many good things, and they

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Speaker 4: got the role players rolling from Dallas, and you know,

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Speaker 4: first it was Luca that got going.

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Speaker 3: Then it was the rest of the bunch.

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Speaker 4: And if you're Dallas, you got to say, hey, that's

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Speaker 4: got to be our recipe for success. Luca, it starts

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Speaker 4: and it ends with you, So there is validity. So

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Speaker 4: what Windhorst was saying, and there were a couple of

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Speaker 4: silly plays from Luca, but again, I think you got

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Speaker 4: to chime back and you got to give Mike, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how you feel about this. I feel like

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Speaker 4: you got to give Boston more credit because they attacked

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Speaker 4: Luca and they're a team equipped.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: No, but that's the biggest thing. Is most of it

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Speaker 2: all all through the run. And Jason Tatum, I think

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Speaker 2: said it really well and his his press availability leading

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Speaker 2: You're you're gonna tell us who we didn't play and

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Speaker 2: whatever else. Now it's the presumption that you're going to

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Speaker 2: finish off the three to zero lead, which you still

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Speaker 2: have to do it again next year, which you know,

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Speaker 2: I kind of like it a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: drop to Mike moment and all of that, But you're

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Speaker 2: giving wide open looks. All of that is is fair,

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Speaker 2: But you know, you played the game in the NBA

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Speaker 2: for for ten years. For those on aware, Ryan Hollins

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Speaker 2: doing a little double duty this weekend at the Ryan

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Speaker 2: season of Clipped, or at least some representation of him there.

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Speaker 2: In the last couple of weeks, we've also had Uncut

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Speaker 2: Gems has been on one of the monitors, so we

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Speaker 2: always point out there's our guy. It's like you always

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Speaker 2: got to point out your friends when they make movies. You, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's one of those movies that now it's like Shawshank

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Speaker 2: If it happens to be in sequence that Uncut Gems

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Speaker 2: up on the board. We got three or four movies

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Speaker 2: like that, the John Wicks series of Chants All of

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Speaker 2: the Ocean just there you go. Was not expecting that

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Speaker 2: kind of came out open, open mouth, say things and buttons.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: So it's the kind of thing that you know, it's

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollands. You appear in that, but ten years in

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Speaker 2: the league. I mean you're you're theory testing, right, Like

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Speaker 2: Raptor thing. Right, they're testing the fences for weakness. That

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Speaker 2: what you do with the referees. All right, how physical

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Speaker 2: are we gonna call it tonight? What are we gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to get away with? And if you can

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Speaker 2: push a little bit more?

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's with every sport, with everything you do and every

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Speaker 1: The way on down the line? What can I get

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Speaker 2: And for the Celtics, and certainly Luca was doing that

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Speaker 2: what's exactly gonna take to get a fall? The problem

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Speaker 2: getting back defensively to cover up the fact that he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the key right there at what you just

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Speaker 4: said is he was much better defensively, and that was

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Speaker 4: a whole lot of the frustration of man, you're not

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Speaker 4: even gonna You're gonna not gonna make an effort. You know,

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Speaker 4: come on, man, you gotta be better than that. In

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Speaker 4: the United States at the NBA Finals. And what's tough

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Speaker 4: is you like to sit him down, get him arrest,

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Speaker 4: let his mental come back. But it did look like

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Speaker 4: his mental win. And when you have such a load offensively,

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Speaker 3: Man, it's hard. It is tough. So Luca was definitely

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Speaker 3: feeling it, you know, to say the least no.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing, right You're trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: where it stands. And there's a great super cut because look,

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Speaker 2: Luca defenders right as many critics as there are for

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Speaker 2: his defensive effort, and at some point it's that, you know,

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Speaker 2: in game three, it was oftentimes the all right, now

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Speaker 2: know about you, watching youth sports, there's always the retaliation,

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Speaker 2: and you could see it coming from a mile away, like,

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Speaker 2: you don't actually need to have the contact. The referee's

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Speaker 2: gonna blow the whistle because he knows something bad is

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Speaker 1: You see it all the time.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get a fall on one end, and then

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Speaker 2: they're like a heat seeking missile straight back to that opponent.

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Speaker 2: And Luca did that a bunch the other night. But

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Speaker 2: there was a supercut that went around. Look at him

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Speaker 2: on Tatum, look at the defensive effort here. So certainly

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Speaker 2: the stands were out in social media to point out

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Speaker 2: the effort, and it was a great effort all around.

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Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway Junior, who had been you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: he basically had a Reggie Miller couple of minutes, goes

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Speaker 1: Like, aha, I'm in the box score now.

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Speaker 2: The game was already decided, but for the purpose of

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Speaker 2: the fact that these guys shot so well, the auxiliary guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, not Luca and Kyrie, and breaking those down.

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Speaker 2: He's like, well, we also have to remember down distance

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Speaker 2: in time of game. Yeah, it's great they got open shots,

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Speaker 1: But I ask you this, Ryan Hollins, does this open

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Speaker 4: We've seen stranger things happen, and I think that little

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Speaker 4: I'm sure hopefully everybody's seen it by now. But the

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Speaker 4: back from three to zero, and no team that is

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Speaker 4: one of the finals has ever been blown out? Was

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Speaker 4: it thirty nine points? So history will be made at

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Speaker 4: one point in time. And I don't think it was

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Speaker 4: where it's like, Okay, this is the team that we saw.

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Speaker 4: This is the team that we kind of expected in

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Speaker 4: the Mavericks where their bigs were getting dunks. There weren't

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Speaker 4: any lives, but the energy was there. The role players

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Speaker 4: play hard, Luka led, Kyrie followed, and the real players

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Speaker 4: did their job, you know, and they were just physical.

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Speaker 3: The energy was there.

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Speaker 4: Now the challenge is going to be can they create

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Speaker 4: that same energy in Boston. You know, can they make

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Speaker 4: things happen in Boston the same exact way?

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the question, because that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You go back to Game three, and for the Celtics,

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Speaker 2: the narrative coming in, and fairly so, was that they'll

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Speaker 2: even give you one right and against Indiana you had

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Speaker 2: three times the win probability in the final minutes for

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Speaker 2: the Pacers was over ninety percent. And give all credit

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Speaker 2: to the Celtics for coming back and taking those games.

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Speaker 2: But sports radio is far more entertaining when we concentrate

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Speaker 2: on how you lose a game like that. And for

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Speaker 2: Game three, same thing. As frustrated as Luca was, as

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Speaker 2: terrible as it looked at times, and there was no

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Speaker 2: when he falls out, it's a one possession game, and

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Speaker 2: there's always the what if what in all of that.

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Speaker 2: We can't we get replicated in cartoon form like they

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Speaker 4: T and a lot of frustration and you know, really

436
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 4: trying to trying to figure things out. But I think

437
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: what Charles Barkley is also saying is that heo much

438
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: bigger than.

439
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: Just the T and T man. He's a staple. We

440
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: kind of like rely on him.

441
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 4: That he's that wild uncle at the parties man that

442
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 4: you want to hear what he's got to say.

443
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: Well, he's going to cut.

444
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: Through and tell you tell you straight. At times it

445
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: might get uncomfortable. Now I've argued in all the love

446
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: fest with the inside the NBA guy, part of the

447
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: outpouring of emotion is also the content creators and people

448
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: in our business that have stopped actually creating and just

449
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: go off of what everybody else says. So the loss

450
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 2: of Barkley and Kenny Smith and Shack with Ernie Johnson

451
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: is potentially really damaging to their individual shows. So they

452
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: need them to stick around, particularly when it gets to

453
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: college basketball season. It's like, hey, hey, you don't know

454
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: about my team, you know, like part of that is

455
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: the faux outrage that goes with that of what they

456
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: don't know. Yes, they can't watch what is it eighty

457
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: two games times thirty teams? Oh, and add all the

458
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: college games to Yeah, no, there's not enough bandwidth unless

459
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: they're now cyborgs, which would be kind of cool. Cyborg

460
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,239
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley is an interesting proposition. But for all of this,

461
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, you've got leverage, and we'll get into Dan

462
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: Hurley a little bit. It doesn't have to be one

463
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: hundred percent leverage. And part of this could be Yeah,

464
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm done with it, right, I'm done with the travel,

465
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm done with this. It's time to move on. He

466
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 2: starts naming potential successors and everything else. Ryan, But you know,

467
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: part of it is, you know, if they love us

468
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: so much and we're so integrated and part of the

469
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: NBA viewing experience, let's flex a little bit, get everybody

470
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: a pay raise. But one of the things Barkley's done,

471
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: and I think brilliantly so during this you know, long

472
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: goodbye run that we've had these last months since it

473
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: was announced that they might only get a small package

474
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: of games versus being shut out altogether at TNT and

475
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers and everything, is that he's talked up how

476
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: much the family of it all matters, right, talking family?

477
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: Why do they keep making those Fast and the Furious

478
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: movies because they make money, But it all comes back

479
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: to family, Right. We'd celebrated the seventeenth anniversary of Fade

480
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: to Black off the Sopranos final episode. Family, all of

481
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: those things. Barklay's talk time and time again of all

482
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: the weddings, all the babies, all of the rights of

483
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: passage by all the crew members, and he's naming people

484
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: off camera people and writers and everything else. And part

485
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: of it is you've got leverage to make sure these

486
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: people continue to get taken care of professionally and continue

487
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: to do what they love either's some responsibility that he

488
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: feels there and ownership of that and if he can

489
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: squeeze one of the networks to come up with more

490
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: of a sweetheart deal. If you're ever going to have

491
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: and use that kind of leverage, Oh, here, here's your opportunity.

492
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: So what do you do Game four of the finals. Hey,

493
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm over here on on NBA TV.

494
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm going away to Lake Tahoe. So here's my parting statement.

495
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: Good night everybody. It's a brilliant move.

496
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: No, it is.

497
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: And I worked over there at Turner a lot how

498
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 4: to how to show on Turner on the network and

499
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 4: behind the scenes of is family it is? You know, everybody,

500
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 4: everybody's cool. It's not you know ESPN, you got a

501
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: bunch of people running around the hallways. It's it's it's

502
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 4: it's a different feel Fox. We're family there and and

503
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 4: it's it's more almost like an NBA fraternity, you know.

504
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: So he's definitely right about that. Uh, the pill is

505
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 4: there and you know, yeah, you don't. You do not

506
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: want to see it go away? And I think for Charles,

507
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: you hit it spot on. He's like of anybody probably

508
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: outside of Shack, he's like I got the universal say.

509
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: You know, if I speak, they're gonna listen to me.

510
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: So this is my obligation because for those in production,

511
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: if that show goes away, they're gonna have to be

512
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: looking for other jobs. They're looking at other networks to

513
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: go over with, and and it kind of gets swept

514
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 4: out from underneath you. So man, hats off to Charles.

515
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: It's definitely admirable what he's doing. And it's the truth

516
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 4: of the matter, you know, so nothing that he's saying

517
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: is wrong. But again, I think you got to have

518
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: a deeper respect because he's made enough money. You know,

519
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: he's made enough money. He's putting his neck on the

520
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 4: line and saying, hey, I'll retire. I think it's that serious.

521
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: You guys don't take care of their guys. Don't just

522
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 4: ask me to go to another network and we go

523
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: about it. No, I'm gonna fight for those people who've

524
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: had my back every single day and the people that

525
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: we've been able to do life with.

526
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins, I'm Mike Carmen here, Fox Sports Radio

527
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: and Adam Silver.

528
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: You're on the clock. Get a deal done.

529
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 2: Let's make this all make sense because I need that

530
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: wacky uncle still to spill some comfortable truths once in

531
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: a while. I was doing a rewatch of The Bear

532
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: ahead of season three. Right comes out later on this month.

533
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: Right the FX thing set in Chicago, all sorts of

534
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 2: Chicago milestones, music, w XRT, the soundtrack, whatever, And they

535
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: have that uncomfortable Christmas episode where they have all these

536
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: guest stars. You got Bob Oden Kirk, and there's Jamie

537
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: Lee Curtis, and there's all sorts of craziness, and you've

538
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: got several crazy uncles at the table. Reminded me of

539
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: old time family holidays, some that you think of fondly,

540
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: some not so much. But Charles Barkley, I think I

541
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: could be entertained for a while, even if he threw

542
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: a fork at me. You gotta watch the show if

543
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: you to understand that reference. He's Ryan, I'm Mike. It's

544
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Here Fox Sports Radio. We got our

545
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: guys Bow and Chris making it sound so pretty, and

546
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: of course our guy Isaac Lowancron at the news desk

547
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on the.

548
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: World of sport.

549
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 9: Mike and Ryan, we actually have some breaking news within

550
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 9: the last few seconds. Shock at all, Charles Barkley. TNT

551
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 9: Sports has just issued the following statement, quote, Charles is

552
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 9: a Hall of Famer and broadcasting icon who is and

553
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 9: will always be a beloved member of the TNT sports family.

554
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 9: We're looking forward to another fantastic NBA on TNT season

555
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 9: and further discussion of our future plans with him. Unquote,

556
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 9: I mean, could that be a possible TNT detective series

557
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 9: called Risolian Charles?

558
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: Do you think I gotta dig that? Is he teamed

559
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: up with Angie Harmon.

560
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: I think so. I'm in. I wouldn't mind that.

561
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 9: Further discussion of our future sure plans with him would

562
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 9: tend to contradict it's a stone cold lock that he's

563
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 9: going to be retiring. But that's just what I read

564
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 9: into that. I'm just saying anyway. And on the floor

565
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 9: on the court. In Game four the NBA Finals on

566
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 9: Friday night, the Dallas Mavericks stayed alive with the thirty

567
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 9: eight point went over the Boston Celtics one twenty two

568
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 9: to eighty four. Celtics still lead the series three games

569
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 9: to one. Game five on Monday at Boston. In the NFL,

570
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 9: multiple outlets reported today that Cincinnati Bengals receiver t Higgins

571
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 9: is signing his franchise tender today and is therefore expected

572
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 9: a report for the start of training camp later this summer.

573
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 9: After two rounds of golf c the UFS Open, Sweden's

574
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 9: Ludwig Obert as the lead at five under par overall,

575
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 9: one shot head of Bryson de Shambo, Patrick Cantley and

576
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 9: Thomas Deetree. They will all tee off round three at

577
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 9: around three point thirty Eastern time this afternoon. Mike and

578
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 9: Ryan back to you, Thanks so much, Iolo.

579
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: We also have you know the Euro twenty twenty four

580
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: on Fox spaying Croatia. I'm watching it. I'm watching an

581
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: NWSL game as well. A woman got called for a fall, Ryan,

582
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: and you know, did an extra dribble or two and

583
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: the ref didn't like it. So as she continued to

584
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: dribble past her, she blew the whistle as hard as

585
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: she could and pulled out a yellow card and the

586
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: one was like, you just blew my ear drub out.

587
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: So a little bit of.

588
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: Anxiousness there in the opening moments of that game as well.

589
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: So you know, a lot of chaos going on in

590
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: our sporting universe, which is fantastic because we've got everything going.

591
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: We've got game four right of the Stanley Cup final

592
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: later on tonight. I've got a Stanley Cup piece of

593
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: news and notes that will make you feel like, hey,

594
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: you know you're still a winner because you got to participate.

595
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: We'll get into that a little bit.

596
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: All right.

597
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: Now, we got the the two minute drill before we

598
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: have to do, you know, and run and abide by

599
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: the clock. So I open it up with this. The

600
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley saga very short lived here in Los Angeles.

601
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: The excitement of hey, here's a guy that builds culture,

602
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: builds program all of this stuff. Six years reportedly a

603
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: seventy million dollar offer goes back to Leverage says, No,

604
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: that wasn't it. Look what I've got Like, if I

605
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: get task you, Ryan Hollins, to do a task, say

606
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 2: I give you one hundred thousand dollars budget, and you

607
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: not only meet the task, but you crush it. And

608
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: then you come back and you have proposals for salary increases,

609
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: more technology, whatever else. But the ROI on that can

610
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: only be as great as what you've already given me.

611
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: Am I giving you that money, Ryan Hollins, Say you

612
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: want to add staff change the training room, whatever the

613
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: case is. Now I'm mixing between business and sport, but

614
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: the point is the same. If you've achieved the highest

615
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: level possible, and why would I give you more resources

616
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: and not make a fight for it a little bit?

617
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: So the Danny Hurley leverage thing doesn't play right for me.

618
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: But your question is, and it's not one hundred percent right.

619
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: It's a giant pie chart and we ascribed some value

620
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: to it, but in the end here in Los Angeles,

621
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: it now becomes a lot of handwringing of is it

622
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: really going to be reddick or what's behind door number two?

623
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: You're right about that. I actually just saw Danny Hurley

624
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: and you know what, he's out recruiting already.

625
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: He got to be right back at it.

626
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasted no time. He was right back at it.

627
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: And I think just for the Lakers, it is it's

628
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: an embarrassing spot to be in because you know, you

629
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: do all this work, you go after a guy, you

630
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: make him your number one candidate, and he walks away,

631
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: and you know, man, you gotta be shaking your hands.

632
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: It's embarrassing. But the reality is, uh, we spoke about this, yes,

633
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: say it's tough to coach Lebron, you know, as amazing

634
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: as greaty as he is, because it's like, what are

635
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: you what are you gonna tell that older guy? You

636
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: know you get you know, Mike, I don't know if

637
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: you ever got to the point where you're a coach

638
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: or a teacher had something to say to you and

639
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 4: a boss it's like like, hey, can you show up

640
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: at this time? And it's like, yeah, I'll show up,

641
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: I'll be there. But you know, Lebron's to the point

642
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: of what are you gonna say to him?

643
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: Man?

644
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: He's achieved everything under the sun, and you know, he

645
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: comes with a lot. Man, he comes with a lot,

646
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: and he's he's well deserved to everything that he's earned

647
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: in the basketball universe. So, uh, Danny Hurley a guy

648
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: who in college, let me give you perspective, you tell

649
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Speaker 4: your guys to get there at five am and get

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Speaker 4: there at five m when you when you tell him

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Speaker 4: that we're gonna do X, Y and Z, they kind

652
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Speaker 4: of don't have a say.

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Speaker 3: They kind of got to roll with it and do it.

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Speaker 3: And Danny Hurley has had a lot of success like that.

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Speaker 4: So it would have been a huge adaptation and change

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Speaker 4: for him to, you know, revamped the way that he

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Speaker 4: does things. So I think for Danny, I don't think

658
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Speaker 4: it was anything personal. It just man, it would have

659
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Speaker 4: been a lot of uncharted territory and water for him

660
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Speaker 4: coming over to the Lakers. But I think the Lakers

661
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Speaker 4: it wasn't the worst ploy. But it's tough when you

662
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: go after a candidate and that candidate says I'm good,

663
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Speaker 4: I'm good. It's not a good look.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll play through the psychology of that something that

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00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: Hurley dropped that Lebron texted him again, curiosity of all

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Speaker 2: of this playing out, and for Hurley, you know what

667
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Speaker 2: that Lebron appearance in inclusion in this Lakers roster would

668
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Speaker 2: have meant because short and long term two very different things.

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Speaker 2: For Danny Hurley, we'll talk about that. He's Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: I'll buy Karmen. This is Fox Sports Saturday from the

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Speaker 2: Benson will have that up and running for us, just

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Speaker 2: wrapping a bow as we do. Ryan on you know,

686
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: the Hurly stuff one and fortifies his personal brand, family, culture, community,

687
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: all of those things as they go for a three peat.

688
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: A huge win for college basketball to not lose another coach,

689
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Speaker 2: not because of you know, explicitly Nil and all of

690
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: those other ills like Jay Wright, coach K and others

691
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Speaker 2: have talked about. But you know, some of that combined

692
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Speaker 2: with the allure of the NBA and one of the

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Speaker 2: shiny franchise logos. But you know, you get to keep

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Speaker 2: the face of college basketball right now, maybe the he

695
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Speaker 2: and Tom Izzo and very few others Bill self that

696
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: are still you know, the names that you come back to.

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: But on the Lakers side of things, you know, a

698
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: lot of it was a tough week, right you lose

699
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Speaker 2: out on Hurley, It gets reported six for seventy and

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Speaker 2: then you have a very short statement after the passing

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Speaker 2: of Jerry West. You know, we long established, you know,

702
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: still the falling out and division between the Lakers and

703
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: one of their all time greats and obviously an all

704
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: time game great. So you have that bad pr that

705
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: comes out of issuing a tepid four line statement as well.

706
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: But for Hurley, for Reddick, for whomever would be in

707
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Speaker 2: the job, Ryan, it's the short and long term of

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Speaker 2: all right, what's my role while Lebron is still here?

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Speaker 2: If he's still here, which was one of the things

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Speaker 2: he Hurley dropped talking in some of his interviews late

711
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Speaker 2: in the week because he has the opportunity to opt out,

712
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Speaker 2: but he'd leave a lot of money on the table.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think anybody believes that's happening. But you've

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00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: got the Lebron years to navigate and then whatever it

715
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: becomes in the PostScript, And I got to imagine for

716
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Speaker 2: Hurley or somebody else, I get to build it in

717
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: my image and what I want to do far more

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Speaker 2: attractive than what the next two years might.

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Speaker 1: Have brought him.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you as a college coach, your GM, your coach,

721
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: your president, your owner, you get to pick your guys NBA.

722
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: You could be the fourth most important person in the organization,

723
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Speaker 4: if not maybe lower. And guess what, You're going to

724
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Speaker 4: be number one when it comes to blame. So Hurley's

725
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: probably just like, yeah, I don't know if this deal

726
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 4: is as attractive as it you make it seem, or hey,

727
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: you got to pay me a lot. If I'm gonna

728
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: be the escapegoat, you gotta paid me a lot of

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Speaker 4: money for it.

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Speaker 3: Man, you might not be enough money.

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Speaker 4: And you know, at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that that's what it came down to, just

733
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be worth it has everything again right now, Yes,

734
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Speaker 4: the Lakers job is prestigious, but at this moment is

735
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: in his career for him to be pulled away. He's saying,

736
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: it's it's just not enough, you know, And it doesn't

737
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Speaker 4: have to be a shot to the Lakers necessarily, but

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Speaker 4: it's not enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean when we look at the brand historically and

741
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: you know Boe our executive producer, Laker fan, you know

742
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: Los Angeles guy, and we're talking about the history. I mean,

743
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: this isn't new, right, This is not some revelation that

744
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: the Lakers haven't paid coaches. Hell, they've fought even going

745
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: all the way back in Phil Jackson's money and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's well chronicled all the way through. No

747
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Speaker 2: matter how much success you know marketplace and that ascribing

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Speaker 2: some value to the brand in the southern California lifestyle,

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Speaker 2: I mean that only gets you so far with the

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Speaker 2: guy that is so ingrained, particularly Hurley and what his

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Speaker 2: personal brand and history is all about.

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Speaker 1: And it's well chronicled. No need to reltigate that here.

753
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: But now you've got JJ Reddick established as a minus

754
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Speaker 2: five hundred favorite, Ryan Hollins behind him, James Barrego plus

755
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Speaker 2: three hundred. You've got Cleveland's job is still open. By

756
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: the way, Sam Cassell is nine to one. We've got

757
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: some news on Sam Cassell off a report from one

758
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: of our guys a little bit. You got Chris Quinn

759
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Ty lewis still on the board even

760
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: with everything going on with the Clippers, which is interesting.

761
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: And then you got Atkinson and Adalman at eighteen to one,

762
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: and then you start digging deeper from there.

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Speaker 1: So just a curious lot.

764
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Speaker 2: And it's presumed after an interview this weekend that Reddick

765
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Speaker 2: finally becomes the guy. Shams will do a victory lap

766
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: over a defeated Woes and then win. Horse will still

767
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: be over there, pointing and screaming, I need that. You know,

768
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: that triple threat match added to the clash at the

769
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Speaker 2: Castle here coming up in the next hour.

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Speaker 3: Look it it is. I mean, the Lakers are making headway, man,

771
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: deep into the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is amazing. But man, look again,

773
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: it's a tough job to have. The thing is a

774
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 4: guy like JJ Radick will say, Hey, I'm gonna relish

775
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: at the idea to coach Lebron. You know, whatever stipulation

776
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Speaker 4: you want to put in there, I'm willing to take

777
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Speaker 4: it and abide by them.

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Speaker 3: You know.

779
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Speaker 4: And if the Lakers go after a tenure coach, remember

780
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Speaker 4: Tyd Lou turned the job down one time and said, hey.

781
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Speaker 3: You gotta pay me, you gotta give me the.

782
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: Years, you gotta give me something and listen, Honestly, for

783
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Speaker 4: them to kind of extended the money to Hurley, that

784
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Speaker 4: was a first.

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Speaker 3: I was actually very surprise.

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Speaker 2: You're certainly a little higher because standard has been a

787
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Speaker 2: five year deal. They went six. Some of the reports

788
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: had it as much as eight, and we'd heard that

789
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Speaker 2: mythical one hundred and ten million dollar number was floating

790
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Speaker 2: around there. For a hot minute, Ryan, we start talking

791
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Speaker 2: about that, you know, because people are trying to, you know,

792
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Speaker 2: lick their wounds by saying, well, at least the Lakers

793
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: took their shot, did they did they take their best shot?

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Speaker 4: Well, you gotta be willing to go. And I think

795
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: that the idea also is hardly new. He had all

796
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Speaker 4: the leverage and was willing.

797
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Speaker 3: To back out there you go.

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Speaker 2: So now it becomes the JJ Reddick watch as he

799
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Speaker 2: continues his work.

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Speaker 1: At the NBA Finals.

801
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're we're presuming that we get an announcement

802
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: that you know, it's eminent, perhaps as soon as the

803
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: game ends and we see either the tremendous Mavericks comeback

804
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: or the Celtics win that on set, Reddick just says,

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Speaker 2: I'm now the Lakers coach as they fade the Black's

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollands, I'm Mike Carman. More for the NBA coming

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Speaker 1: We're happy to be with you. Glad you joined us

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Speaker 1: for a few minutes of your day. It does not.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate every minute of it being able to do

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Speaker 2: this for you. Ryan Hollins my partner here, ten years

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Speaker 2: What will be part of the muddled mess of the

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Speaker 2: Western Conference. Can't wait for it this coming season. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: But it's always a pleasure to be with you here.

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Speaker 2: We've got Chris we've got Bo and we've got Ilo

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Speaker 2: at the news desk, so much going on, some NBA

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Speaker 2: stories to get to and then we've got one at

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Speaker 2: the end of the hour, a lot of talk, Joey Chestnut,

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Speaker 2: But a guy that you know well, Doc Rivers in

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00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: the news this week once again. No, it's not for

841
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: Laurence Fishburn yelling at players like we talked about last

842
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: week on our Sunday morning show Ryan in the episodes

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Speaker 2: of Clipped, where Laurence Fishburn's using his mind.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: He was on the Bill Simmons podcast on Thursday and

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Speaker 2: he got into deep details of the season that was

847
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: goes back to a little bit of the time in Philly,

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Speaker 2: how hard it was to win their at home and

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Speaker 2: people raising their hand going as the team they went

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Speaker 2: thirty seven and four of the year before what are

851
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Speaker 2: you talking about? And then he became the Bucks coach.

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Speaker 2: But where I thought it was interesting and wanted to

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Speaker 2: get your perspective on this as as a former player,

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Speaker 2: a guy who's still around a team and around the

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Speaker 2: league and talking to guys.

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Speaker 1: He went pretty.

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Speaker 2: Deep into navigating his run with the Bucks taking over

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Speaker 2: mid season and the relationship with Damian Lillard. Quote really

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Speaker 2: hard to navigate Lillard's personal situation, you know, because he

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Speaker 2: arrives to the Bucks and he was going through a

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Speaker 2: divorce and he goes deep in.

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Speaker 10: Here.

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Speaker 1: That's where it starts.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, let me start with this quote, Coch we were

865
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Speaker 2: out of dinner and he says, Coach, I didn't work

866
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: out all summer.

867
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: It's the first time in my life that have not

868
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: worked out.

869
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: I was so scared of getting injured working out well

870
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: because he knew he was gonna get traded, right, so

871
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: that was in the offing, and continues to go on

872
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: talking about him being out of shape and basketball shape

873
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: and everything else. Quote, I did some light running, I

874
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: did some shooting with no one in the gym. I

875
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: didn't but I didn't go at all. I'm out of shape,

876
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: and he was honest about it. It's one of the reasons

877
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: you love him because he's honest. This is the worst

878
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: shape I've ever been in. And obviously Lillard tried to

879
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: get back in shape. Season ended in the playoffs. He

880
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: gets hurt, Giannis is hurt. The Bucks bow out Doc

881
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 2: in his Milwaukee run after what was a fantastic start

882
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: thirty and thirteen. They change out the coach and bring

883
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: Doc in from the broadcast booth, and it's an uneven

884
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: season thereafter, and Lillard ends up injured. But as soon

885
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: as he started going into the discussions of Lillard being

886
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: out of shape, I started feeling a little bit uncomfortable,

887
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: like this was out of bounds. I think everybody on

888
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: the outside looking in and wondered how he was handling

889
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: things mentally. And Lillard had talked about some of that,

890
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: being away from his kids at times and going through

891
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: the divorce and changing venues after a decade plus in

892
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: one spot. But it made me a bit uncomfortable when

893
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: you start getting into these conversations of well, here's what

894
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: he told me. Was he Doc out of bounds for

895
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: doing this with Simmons or is it a kind of

896
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: an attempt on some level not only to absolve himself

897
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: for what happened in the second half, but also maybe

898
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: humanizing Damian Lillard, maybe to a fault.

899
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he hit it spot on. I think,

900
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what the intent was. It

901
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 4: can be drawn from both ways, and for Doc, Doc

902
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: has already you know, scene as you know, deflecting, you know,

903
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: and a lot of time coaches say, hey, I messed up,

904
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: my bad. You know, this one was on me, and

905
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: it looks like he's saying, hey, well, it's not my

906
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 4: fault Lillard. You know, Lillard was going through, you know,

907
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 4: whatever he was going through, and you know, I don't

908
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: know the intent behind it, so I don't want to say,

909
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: you know, how could he do this? There he goes again,

910
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: and you know, obviously at this point people are looking

911
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: for clips and looking for things that have been said

912
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: to that degree.

913
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know where it goes.

914
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: And it is tough now to give Doc the benefit

915
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: of the doubt because you know he's kind of, you know,

916
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: made these excuses, and he did.

917
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 3: He stepped into a tough situation with the team that was.

918
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: Really really good and doing well, and then you know

919
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: he had to take over and within that the team faltered.

920
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: You know.

921
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: So for Doc, I don't know where to take it,

922
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: but you think it might be wise to stay away

923
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 4: from it. But at the end of the day, look,

924
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: as long as the guys in that locker room are

925
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: on the same page as him, ownership and the president

926
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: are comfortable with things that he's doing and saying that,

927
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: that's really all that matters at the point. But you know,

928
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: you don't want to lose the players. And I think

929
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 4: that Yannis is is kind of learning those lebron Like problems.

930
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: And when I say that lebron Like problems is when

931
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 4: you become so good that whatever you have to say goals.

932
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: If you say, hey, I want my brother to be

933
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 4: on the team, boom, Hey, I don't think I really

934
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: get along with the coach boom, coaches fired, you know,

935
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: and those things happen. Guess what, You're gonna get that

936
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: responsibility on the other end, And you can't just go,

937
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: oh man, it wasn't me, It was it was somebody else.

938
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, Yiannis. This is you making these calls.

939
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 4: So he's gonna he's gonna have to own this, and

940
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: you know a lot of this is gonna have to

941
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 4: fall back on him.

942
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's the curiosity of it, right, It's it's the

943
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: double edged sort of you know, the great power, great responsibility.

944
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: We take the Spider Man quote leaving no pop culture

945
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: reference stone unturned as we roll through on a Saturday morning.

946
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, with Lebron, you're gonna get You're gonna wear

947
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: it at this point, no matter what, Right, even in

948
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: this coaching search, no matter what, there's gonna be the

949
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: poison pen out for he wanted this guy, didn't want

950
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: that guy. And we saw it from day one. You know,

951
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: the Reddick Reddick insertion into things was while he's got

952
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: a podcast with him, that's his buddy, and everybody clapped

953
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: their hands said, okay, moving on, and then the hurly

954
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: thing pops up for a minute, and now we're back

955
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: to Redick with with Jannis, changing teams, changing coaches, getting

956
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: his brothers playing time and rings and whatever is Look, man,

957
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: it's if you've got the leverage and pull and you

958
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: can do it. I guess you do it to a point,

959
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: but you recognize that on the other side, you're gonna

960
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: get the criticism. Right, Lebron and Wade and Bosh teaming

961
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: up in Miami, it was all great in theory, and

962
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: then they got some backlash and they didn't like that

963
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: very much.

964
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Right.

965
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: Wade actually cried. Lebron never embraced the villainy of it

966
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: at that point. As he got deeper into his career,

967
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: I think, you know, with subsequent moves and whatever, just realized,

968
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: all right, this is the way it's gonna be, So

969
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna lean into it. And even on social

970
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: media now he's going after companies you know that were

971
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: implying that he owned a car and things of that nature.

972
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: So he's he's going after everybody and you know, scorched

973
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: earth kind of thing.

974
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: But at the.

975
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Time, you know, becoming the villain is a hard thing, right,

976
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about it, and we could joke

977
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: about it. From a wrestling standpoint. You know, you're a

978
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: babyface for a lot of years and everybody's cheering you,

979
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: all right, factions of the audience don't. But then you

980
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: go full on heel. You're gonna hear some things you

981
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: probably hadn't heard before. Same same thing as a player, right,

982
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Everything was great with Giannis and then you have a

983
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: couple the first round exits, you add some injury stuff

984
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: and people can look and say, you built this team

985
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: as you wanted to it. So with that becomes the

986
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: responsibility of hey, it's not just you didn't you average,

987
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: you know, thirty eight and eight or whatever the stats

988
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: would be. It's like, well, if you didn't win enough,

989
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: it's because you failed to put a team together. And

990
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: it becomes less about the GM Cavalcadive stars come through

991
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 2: as a coach, they become less and less important because

992
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: it becomes about you and your history.

993
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: Yep, and you brought these guys here, and you know

994
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: it is tough because as much as you want to

995
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: keep things in the locker room or you know, behind

996
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: closed doors, you got to come and answer and you

997
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 4: can see these major moves being made and you know, ultimately, man,

998
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 4: a lot of times this would drop me crazy as

999
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: a player. You know, sometimes you have to protect the

1000
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 4: brand and protect the shield. And there's a difference where

1001
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: you know, in the locker room, we know what went on,

1002
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 4: we know why that guy was fired, we know it happened,

1003
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: but you're not gonna go out and say it and

1004
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: or put it out because it's not your place.

1005
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: And you know it's it's what his side, her side,

1006
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: and the truth, no, right.

1007
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: Right, three sides to every story. It's kind of like

1008
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: you know, me watching clipped, I have a million questions,

1009
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: But you've already told me you ain't watching, so you

1010
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 2: can binge watch the whole series. So at some point

1011
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm just bringing a bunch of food for you and

1012
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: your family. I'll fly to Houston if I got to,

1013
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: and you and I are going to binge watch this,

1014
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna have a running recorder when they

1015
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: do the basketball side of it, so you can set

1016
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: me straight of what actually happened.

1017
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: In all this.

1018
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

1019
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: See what I did there. I now invited myself to

1020
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: your house.

1021
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: Any time by that anytime.

1022
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll supply the food and beverage. But but

1023
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: it's like.

1024
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: As you're talking about it, like you know what went

1025
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: on in the locker room, and I only bring up

1026
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: clipped one because I'm fascinated by it. But I mean,

1027
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: you're part of that squad, so you know, you know

1028
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: the story and the stories and the interactions behind the stories.

1029
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

1030
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: In all of these locker rooms we're trying to we

1031
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: want honesty, And I guess that's the point with the

1032
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: doc thing. This could be one hundred percent true that

1033
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: you know he and Damian Lillard had these hard conversations

1034
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: about where he was mentally, physically, whatever else. It's just

1035
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: as soon as they start being broadcast, like, we're always

1036
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 2: gonna question motives and process and you know, the why

1037
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: now kind of things, and it's not just Hey, I'm

1038
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: comfortable and I have a great relationship with Bill Simmons,

1039
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: and we know Doc with most of the media, right,

1040
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the things that has endeared to him

1041
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: for years. Unless he's the coach of your squad and

1042
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: you say, why didn't we finish that playoff series?

1043
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: Doc?

1044
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: Except for two thousand and eight, there's always going to

1045
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: be two thousand and eight. He's Ryan Holland out by Carmen. Hey,

1046
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: let's go back to Philadelphia with another story, because there

1047
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: was a guy on the set for the NBA Finals

1048
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: who said some things. He also declared himself ready for

1049
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 2: a big international competition, and if I'm a Sixers fan,

1050
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying, can you not? We'll talk about that next.

1051
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

1052
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: welcome back in Fox Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike

1053
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: Carmen alongside Ryan Hollins. Find us on Twitter at Swollen

1054
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: Dome at the Ryan Hollins and we'll be back again

1055
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 2: with you tomorrow's six a m. Pacific time for three

1056
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: more hours of merriment, more details and the expectations of

1057
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: what we see for Monday nights Game five, and whether

1058
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 2: we still have a series rolling forward and implications falling

1059
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: out of what this NBA conclusion because we start getting

1060
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: towards free agency and trades and the draft and all

1061
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: of that fun here in short order, So join us

1062
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: again tomorrow morning, but obviously keep us always locked on

1063
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: wherever you going, the iHeartRadio app, Fox Sports Radio, all

1064
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: of our affiliates nationwide, four hundred plus. We appreciate you

1065
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: and however you're reaching us being part of the family

1066
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 2: going evangelize. You know, it's a good gift for dad.

1067
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 2: You know, here's here's a card, and here's a link

1068
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio app.

1069
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Here. Let me install that app on your phone. Dad.

1070
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: See it's a gift that keeps giving. And you know

1071
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 2: what it costs you just a minute of your time

1072
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: and a little bit of kindness. See what I did there,

1073
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, get.

1074
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Into sell, Sell, Sell.

1075
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: I'll wear the sandwich board on the Santa Monica Peer

1076
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: if that's what it's gonna take. Because cost of customer acquisition.

1077
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: Harmon is there for you.

1078
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: Hey.

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00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid was part of the NBA Finals coverage and

1080
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: you know, chattering a bit. He's saying he's getting ready

1081
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: for the Olympics. That's what I kind of alluded to

1082
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: in terms off, I'm nervous if I'm a Sixers fan

1083
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: and I'm seeing if I can't say I appreciate your

1084
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 2: boyhood dreams. I got titles to win, man, come on, quote,

1085
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be big for me because I've been dreaming

1086
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: about it since I was a kid. Said that during

1087
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: the pregame show. The other part, some folks enjoyed this.

1088
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: He played the heel as he's wont to do at times,

1089
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: big WWE fan, I hate the Celtics, and then at

1090
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: one point kind of talking about the future of the

1091
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: squad and hopes of bringing in another superstar, and he

1092
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: had Paul George sitting next to him, so kind of

1093
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: a nod and a wink, and it seems like that

1094
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: marriage moving closer and maybe Paul George drifting away from Clipperdom.

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: I mean, for what I have to adjust to the

1096
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 4: guys being on on set that that's different, like tears

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00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 4: it up a bit.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: They are in the middle of the finals going on,

1100
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: and you got current players on there just essentially doing

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00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: these these like inner I don't even know if they're

1102
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 4: given takes, you know, they're just kind of talking about

1103
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 4: the game, and it's it's very unique. A man heads

1104
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 4: off to Steven a for being able to essentially put

1105
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: it together.

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00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's that's a different way he.

1107
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: Goes right there in weeks and I mean, do we

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: care about tampering anymore?

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00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: What does this fall under?

1110
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, right, it's it's the longest running

1111
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: joke in all of these sports. I don't know if

1112
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: you saw the penalties that the Falcons had to pay

1113
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: out for their tampering this week. I mean just absurd, right,

1114
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: talking about Kirk Cousins coming into town and everything, where

1115
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: you're talking about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine

1116
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: and a fifth round selection of the twenty twenty five

1117
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: draft while breaking the quote improper contact policies and everything

1118
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: to bring all these free agents in three guys three

1119
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: and for actions including your you know, two hundred million

1120
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: dollar quarterback and you lose a fifth round pick and

1121
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars if that's gonna be

1122
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: the penalty, Ryan, If I'm a GM and I'm an owner,

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: it's like, sign me up. We vastly improved three areas

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00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: of our squad, and that's what we have to give

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: up to do it. A Day three draft pick and

1126
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: a couple of coins. Are you kidding me? So doing

1127
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: this on live TV? I mean you think Adam silvercares hell? No, right,

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: he's looking at the broadcasting rights, he's got Charles Barkley

1129
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: threatening to quit, he's got bigger fish to fry man.

1130
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: He's talking about the billions and billions of dollars that

1131
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: are now going to be flowing into the league. So yeah,

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00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at each other, smile and

1133
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: say the quiet part out loud. I don't think the

1134
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Speaker 2: NBA will do a damn thing.

1135
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. I mean, it is the rules or you're

1136
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: gonna have to weigh.

1137
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to see in. I mean, listen, I

1138
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: think the one thing I like Adam Bounce about Adam

1139
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 4: Silver is he's realistic.

1140
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: Come on, guys, you're getting too wild. Joelle. You know

1141
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: you can't just go on and.

1142
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: Recruit this guy in front of everybody, So I do

1143
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: think something will happen. The rules are rules, and guess what,

1144
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: every team that had been penalized for tampering lost their marbles.

1145
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: So no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that

1146
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: that that can't happen.

1147
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: That ain't it. And it's happening right in front of

1148
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: our face.

1149
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no no no no no,

1150
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: don't don't do that now.

1151
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: Now.

1152
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: Question two, as I want to dive in a little more,

1153
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: is Paul George under contract?

1154
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: No, he's a free agent.

1155
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: Is that tampering if he's a free agent?

1156
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: No?

1157
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: No's are you not technically a free agent until the

1158
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: new calendar year?

1159
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1160
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: I guess some of the semantics of it, right, and

1161
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: and the letter of the law versus spirit of the law.

1162
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: Because he's also I mean as a guy who isn't

1163
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: a a an executive or team official.

1164
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: Do we look at it differently? I mean, because we

1165
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: know the players talk to each other.

1166
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah, no, I know in theory right,

1167
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: doing it.

1168
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: In the meat now now, I think what you're saying

1169
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: too is like, okay, dude, where does it stop?

1170
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 6: Right?

1171
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, we know this is happening on the Banana boat.

1172
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean he can do whatever

1173
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: you want. See now, I got the image of the

1174
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Banana boat crew in all your minds across the globe.

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00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: You're welcome.

1176
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 2: I did that for America. I did that for the

1178
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: world on a Saturday morning, because you know what, people

1179
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: need more laughs in their lives.

1180
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Here. There's no question about it.

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: It's actually America. You just say it with the America.

1182
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I have to drop the A to say.

1183
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: It, right, yeah, America, you do that right.

1184
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask this then, all right, if if

1185
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: Paul George can leave and we have to get rid

1186
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: of all of those great billboards as they go to

1187
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: the into it of the street lights this you know,

1188
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: over spotlights, which was always the dumbest ad slogan ever. Hey,

1189
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: here's two guys we're paying over five hundred million dollars

1190
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: in salary to but street lights over spotlights. Come on now,

1191
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: get out of here with that. Mark Stein was with

1192
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: us earlier this week. There's two coaching things that are

1193
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: kind of interesting coming out of these final both related

1194
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: to guys. I'm currently employed by the Celtics one Jeff

1195
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: van Gundy, who's a special assistant advising Missoula as well

1196
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: as Brian Stevens, that he may leave to become part

1197
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: of Tylo's staff with the Clippers. Meanwhile, there's a path

1198
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: that Sam Cassel leaves and not to be the Lakers

1199
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: head coach currently nine to one odds, but he would

1200
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: go to the bench alongside Darvin Ham and the aforementioned

1201
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers.

1202
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just a lot going on, man, how about that? Yeah?

1203
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 4: The NBABA a soap opera, man, there it is. There

1204
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: is a lot oking Listen. I'm here for it. I

1205
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: think the one thing is you call it the coaching carousel,

1206
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: and it's always going to be active in the NBA

1207
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 4: because unfortunately it's it's one of the least secure jobs

1208
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: that you can have. You're paid quite handsomely, so no

1209
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: one's gonna feel sorry for you the way that you

1210
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 4: may expect. But at the end of the day, I

1211
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: think it's, uh, it's good for the sport. But you know, hey,

1212
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: there there's a lot of movement in drama, and you

1213
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: know it's tough because a lot of these guys when

1214
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: they get fired, it's it's it's truth, is it's not

1215
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: fair or you know, you're asking what are the qualifications

1216
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: of a good job?

1217
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: What? What else were you supposed to do?

1218
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Are you speaking directly for Darvin Ham in that moment?

1219
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, him, Yeah, Well that's I mean, I mean, we're.

1220
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: Plenty of guys where it's like, and we do this

1221
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: in every sport, like that guy got a one and done.

1222
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like, why how.

1223
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: Many times have the coach of the year been fired?

1224
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: I mean several times, it's.

1225
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: Right, whereas in other organization you get a very long

1226
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: headre It's like he took us to a finals once,

1227
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: we can't get rid of him, and you keep blowing

1228
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: from there. But yeah, the carousel just starting to spin

1229
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: from the assistant side of things, and certainly free agencies

1230
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: still a ways away. But had to highlight the little

1231
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: Joel embiid back and forth and what really is quote

1232
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: unquote tampering. Now one story that did pop up yesterday.

1233
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball's got a problem. They've got an umpire

1234
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: who's been kept off the field here in twenty twenty four,

1235
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: they released a statement that leads to a lot of questions.

1236
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: But since you were in.

1237
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: The league when the NBA went through a scandal similarly,

1238
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: got to get your thoughts on that, But first, why

1239
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: don't we kick it over to our guy, Isaac Lowan

1240
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: crowd get an update of what's going on in our

1241
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: sporting universe.

1242
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 9: Thank you, Mike and Ryan. We actually have some fresh

1243
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 9: NFL news today has multiple outlets reported that Cincinnati Bengals

1244
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 9: receiver T Higgins is signing his franchise tender today and

1245
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 9: is therefore a report for the start of training camp

1246
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 9: later this summer. In Game four the NBA Finals on

1247
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 9: Friday night, the Dallas Mavericks state alive with a thirty

1248
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 9: eight point whatever the Boston Celtics one twenty two to

1249
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 9: eighty four. Celtics still lead the series three games to

1250
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 9: one and will host Game five on Monday.

1251
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: Elsewhere.

1252
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 9: After Game four on Friday night, Charles Barkley had this

1253
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 9: announcement to make you know.

1254
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 8: That's been a lot of noise around on network the

1255
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 8: last few months, and I just want to say I've

1256
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 8: talked to all the other networks, but I ain't going

1257
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 8: nowhere other than TNT. But I have made the decision myself,

1258
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 8: no matter what happens, next year is going to be

1259
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 8: my last year on television.

1260
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 9: Now Today, TNT issued a statement reading, quote, Charles is

1261
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 9: a Hall of Famer and broadcasting icon who is and

1262
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 9: will always be a beloved member of the TNT Sports family.

1263
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 9: We're looking forward to another fantastic NBA on TNT season

1264
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 9: and further discussion of our future plans with him unquote. Unfortunately,

1265
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 9: the Women of San Antonio are yet to issue a

1266
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 9: statement on Barkley's apparent retirement. After two rounds of the

1267
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 9: US Open, Sweden's Ludwig Obert has delighted five under par overall,

1268
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 9: one shot ahead of Bryson to Shambo, Patrick Cantley and

1269
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 9: Thomas Dietrie of Belgium. They will all tee off round

1270
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 9: three at around three p thirty Eastern time this afternoon.

1271
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 9: Mike and Ryan.

1272
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: So much, Ilo at Isaac Low and Cron where you

1273
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: find him? Angel City FC broadcaster getting ready.

1274
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: For Houston tonight.

1275
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 9: You got the Houston roll La against Holland's Houston team.

1276
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: So are we gonna get a bat? You know? Like,

1277
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm literally out of you. I'm literally not dude, Are

1278
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: you kidding me?

1279
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 9: You're awful arrogant down there in Houston after I destroyed

1280
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 9: you with the in and out whataburger argument.

1281
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: See, I just wanted to lead it in scot.

1282
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: I really just wanted to lead it into the next

1283
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: topic discussion with betting. But we do have something a

1284
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: punishment being gold out because you did use the word

1285
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: tender in your update.

1286
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a food it.

1287
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm in about fifteen minutes and to see how the

1288
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: crew and you, Ryan Hollins, how you would navigate a

1289
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: very special punishment. And I use the word punishment loosely

1290
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: because I don't know. I think he kind of went

1291
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: on the other side of it. But we'll talk about

1292
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: that in a few minutes. We also have a guy

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Speaker 2: who's a big winner, even if he is potentially the

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01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: biggest loser in the National Hockey League. But the story

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01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: out of Major League Baseball yesterday is that you have

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Speaker 2: an umpire that has been kept off of the base

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Speaker 2: paths this year, a man by the name of Pat

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Speaker 2: Hoberg who actually had a perfect World Series game that

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: try balls and strikes. He had a perfect game. In

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: the wake of how many times we talk about bringing

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01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: robot umpires in and all of the other things that

1302
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: go through as you watch games. Boe doing his Dodgers podcast.

1303
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure ball strikes and decisions made by umpires gets

1304
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: discussed from time to time in terms of, you know,

1305
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: pitching acumen and a flow of a game, much like

1306
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: we were talking about officiating Ryan related to Luka Doncics

1307
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: and physicality and NBA play. But during this there's a

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Speaker 2: statement from Major League Baseball. During this year spring training,

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball commenced an investigation regarding the potential violation

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Speaker 2: of MLB's sports betting policies by umpire Pat Hobert. Hoburger

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Speaker 2: was removed from the field during the pendency. I haven't

1312
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: seen the word pendency in writing, so it may be

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01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: take pauses say of that investigation, Well, I've heard it.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't sound right.

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: While like impending investigation or pending investigation seem more appropriate.

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Speaker 2: While MLB's investigation, here's the key line, because I want

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: to take this to the NBA and go back to

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: the Donneghie situation. While MLB's investigator did not find any

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: evidence that games worked by mister Hoberg were compromised or

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Speaker 2: manipulated in any way, MLB determined that discipline was warranted.

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Speaker 2: He's choosing to appeal that determination and we cannot comment

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Speaker 2: any further, and so he goes on from there. So okay,

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Speaker 2: they they don't find any any evidence of malpractice, manipulation,

1324
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Speaker 2: whatever term you want to use on his part while

1325
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: he's umpiring games. Again, he had a perfecto, so you know,

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01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: one of those that could have been the walkoff moment.

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: But now that statement leads me to believe that you

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Speaker 2: have potential for other officials names to potentially circle in

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01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: as part of these investigations, much like we had, you know,

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01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: the names of gambling outfits and everything else during the

1331
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: Epay Masahara and Shoho Tani thing. But go back to

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 2: the Donneghy thing. You know how much around the league

1333
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: at that point, Ryan, you were new to the NBA,

1334
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, as that started flowing around, did everybody kind

1335
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: to look side eyes at everybody in the officiating game

1336
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: as information of that started to swirl.

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: I think there's so much complaining about the officials already

1338
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 4: that it kind.

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: Of gets lost a little bit in the.

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,440
Speaker 4: Wash, and you you just kind of stay out of it,

1341
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: you know. But there's already enough frustration or they don't

1342
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 4: make a call, or they don't like me, or they

1343
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 4: don't this or you know, I'm the number of other guys.

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Speaker 3: I knew it. I knew it, I knew it. You know.

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 4: So the dismay for some of the officials that's already

1346
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 4: at such a high that I don't think you know,

1347
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 4: you're going, oh wow, this happened this, and you know, hey,

1348
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 4: there may be some guys that can kind of glean

1349
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: back and go, hold on, I played in this game,

1350
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 4: and this costs me this, this and this.

1351
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 2: You know so, but you start to extrapolate, right, one

1352
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: win here, one win there, start talking about potentially, you know,

1353
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 2: to say you missed the playoffs by two or three games,

1354
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: and you can go back and point to you know,

1355
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: that didn't look quite right. Look, I go back to

1356
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: my Northwestern squad. I graduated ninety five. Nineteen ninety four.

1357
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 2: There was a huge point shaving scandal actually involved a

1358
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: bunch of guys I knew, which is really oh wow.

1359
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: It was really disheartening. And there were guys I used

1360
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 2: to get road tickets from. I had no idea, but

1361
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: as it started to break, I was fully prepared to

1362
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: be made the fall guy. Fortunately I was not. I

1363
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: had no knowledge, and it broke my heart and still,

1364
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: all these years later, there's you know, still you know,

1365
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: some shock and awe that none of us in the

1366
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: building that would sit and watch NFL games or whatever

1367
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: had any idea that this was going on. What was

1368
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: funny is we raised money for an event called dance Marathon.

1369
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 2: A lot of schools have these, right twenty four hours,

1370
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: you picked the charity that you're dancing for. We actually

1371
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: made my T shirts of one of the guys from

1372
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: the basketball side of things that on the back. When

1373
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: he'd come to quote study and work on group projects,

1374
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 2: it would immediately become the Sega genesis, would get fired

1375
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: up and goes, so, I bet I could beat you.

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: We put that on the back of a shirt.

1377
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 3: I bet you.

1378
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: I bet I could beat you in Sega was the

1379
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: It was the line that he would use, and it

1380
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: had a caricature on the front. It got some notoriety

1381
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: from the Northwestern Paper and the Sun Times, and then

1382
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: he ends up becoming one of the focal points of

1383
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: this thing.

1384
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how crazy is that?

1385
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: But just showing I mean it's been persistent, I mean,

1386
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: and that and that goes back thirty years at this point,

1387
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking, you know, the the long gestation

1388
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: of this, but you go back to singular plays. On

1389
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: the football side, there was a fumble where the guy

1390
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,839
Speaker 2: literally dropped the ball at the goal line against Iowa,

1391
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: and it was one we had a family thing. We

1392
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: normally went to the road games. That one we were

1393
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: watching on TV. Our brothers and I looked at each

1394
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: other and went, what the hell was that? No contact,

1395
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: no injury, not like he you know, ripped a hamstring

1396
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: and was now you know, flailing on the ground as

1397
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: the ball went into the end zone.

1398
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: Was wait? What?

1399
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: And that became the focal point. So I gotta imagine

1400
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: as a player, you know, sometimes there might be a

1401
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: little hindsight twenty twenty going, wait, I remember that call

1402
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: and that guy, and you know, you wonder how much

1403
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: you know coming out of this with Major League Baseball

1404
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: when they say, hey, we couldn't find anything in his games, Well,

1405
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: you still kept him off the field for the first

1406
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: several months, even after calling a perfect World Series game.

1407
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 1: So clearly you found something.

1408
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: And we're all we're all smart enough to try to,

1409
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: you know, add one in one, Like I gotta imagine

1410
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: you got some other umpires feeling pretty nervous right now.

1411
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: That an investigation is going to be knocking on their

1412
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: door any day if they haven't already, and we just

1413
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: don't have that disclosed.

1414
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's got to be, uh, you know, a scary

1415
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 4: place to be in. You know, just don't do it.

1416
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1417
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 4: For me, I always think about what the big the

1418
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 4: big end result is or okay, I did a little bit,

1419
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: let me, let me stop. It's just not smart.

1420
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 1: But I guess you reward maybe.

1421
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, risk first reward is right, but it's you know,

1422
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 4: it is it's it's it's tough, and you know, challenges

1423
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 4: the integrity of the sport, and you know, you may

1424
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 4: see more of these things arise. Why because gambling is

1425
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 4: accessible and it's right there on your phone.

1426
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: Dude.

1427
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: See before you'd have to go find a bookie, you know,

1428
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 4: go go place bats worked over, you can do this

1429
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: stuff right on your phone. So I'm hoping the athletes

1430
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 4: stay away from it. They see that it's it's it's

1431
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 4: not worth it at the end of the day, and

1432
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, it's it's it's kind of honestly, it's

1433
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 4: kind of crazy to see.

1434
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you had minor leaguers suspended. One guy, former

1435
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: pirate now Padre suspended for life. Evidently one four percent

1436
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: of his bets in route to being banned for life.

1437
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how statistically you even get to where

1438
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: you were winning four percent, except unless you're really going

1439
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: down the sixteen parlay highway there, Ryan Hollins, because otherwise,

1440
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: just flip the coin, like we were discussing a little

1441
01:12:59,360 --> 01:12:59,919
Speaker 2: bit earlier.

1442
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Speaker 1: He's Ryan Hollins, I'm Mike Carmen.

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Speaker 2: We're here on Fox Sports Saturday Live fromthe tire rack

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll see how much your stomach and

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: your digestive system loves you because we've got yes, the

1454
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: doling out of fantasy football punishments or is it really

1455
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: a blessing.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that with the crew and with my guy,

1458
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. Coming up next I'm Mike Carmen. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radios. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Mike Carmen alongside Ryan Hollins. Find us in

1461
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Speaker 2: the Twitter verse at the Ryan Hollins at Swollen Gnome.

1462
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: Of course, always follow at Fox Sports Radio for what's

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Speaker 2: coming up, because at about fifteen minutes you got our guy,

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox. He leads you through you hear him every morning,

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Speaker 2: two Pros and a cup of Joe. He's with you

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: here on Saturday. All the usual shenanigans and fun topics

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: that Jonas gets into. Keep it tuned, locked in wherever

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Speaker 2: you're heading. Take it on the iHeartRadio app if you

1469
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Speaker 2: decided you need to walk the dog, or get a

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Speaker 2: little bit of exercise or run some errands on a Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Keep the line moving as it were, Ryan and I'll

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow six am Pacific time. More for the

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, all of the different storylines across the NBA,

1474
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence getting paid. There's so much going on, so

1475
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: much of a rich time of year, but it's also

1476
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: that time. I told you I'm in the middle, in

1477
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: the throes of one of these industry leagues, mock drafts already,

1478
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 2: Ryan Allins round twelve, and my roster is clean, all right.

1479
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: I got a lot of high risk, high reward guys

1480
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: because I like to live life on the edge in

1481
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 2: fake football. That doesn't cost me anything except my reputation.

1482
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: So I got a bunch of guys fighting for contracts,

1483
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that are fighting all over the place.

1484
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: But we're wrapping up. You know, some of the guys

1485
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: for last season are still well. They're paying off their

1486
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: league futility. And it's only appropriate that we do this

1487
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: story in a week where we had Joey Chestnut and

1488
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest as part of it. Now,

1489
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: he signed a deal with a brand who's gotten far

1490
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: too much equity for me to give out their name

1491
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: for free.

1492
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: On the show. But let's just say it's a rival.

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: So he may or may not participate in the July

1494
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: fourth festivities. There's already a showdown with the old ruler

1495
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: of the land, Kobayashi, set for Labor Day weekend. Again,

1496
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: everybody trying to get paid, everybody getting their money. But

1497
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 2: here's a guy that posted yesterday about a fantasy football

1498
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 2: league punishment for finishing last and it's already got three

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Speaker 2: million views, So we're gonna bring it Isaac bo and

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Speaker 2: Chris to talk about this one because it's an interesting

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: strategy point.

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: And I sent this all to all of you.

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: He's got to go and spend twenty four hours at McDonald's,

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: but he can eat his way out, now, hear me out.

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: I sent you the menu and they want the guys

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01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: in the league agreed to these times, and there is

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: a time associated with each item from breakfast all the

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: way through desserts that if he consumes said item, he

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: can reduce the amount of time he has to spend

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: in said McDonald's. Now this is a glorious thing.

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01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: Now it comes down to gluttoney and how much you

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01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: know the capacity is there? I mean, Ryan, you've always

1513
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: had a very fast metabolism. You and I have talked

1514
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: about this quite a bit during your playing days and

1515
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: even in the post post playing days, still lean and

1516
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: mean and.

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01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: Rocking the three piece suit like no other. Whre would

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01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 1: you start on the menu? Brother? Where would you start?

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01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 3: Gosh?

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: To give folks an example, you get a forty five

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: minute reduction for a quarter pound or with cheese for

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 2: a double quarter pounder with cheese.

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01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: You're taking off a full hour.

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 3: Well, you got to start with breakfast, you know, you

1525
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: can't the most important meal of the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: I mean bacon, egg and cheese biscuit. Yeah. I'm throwing

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01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 3: down four of those.

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's getting you forty five minutes to pop

1529
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: right there?

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01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you do four? Yeah, do four of those,

1531
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: and do four of those.

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: And you said that without blinking. Yeah, and he is

1533
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: seven feet tall, he's big mountain.

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01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: Big breakfast with hot cakes.

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 4: That's really tempting because it's it's it's one hundred and

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 4: twenty minutes.

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01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 3: It's tempting. But I think you can only do one

1538
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 3: of those.

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01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 4: So maybe I do four of those and then tip

1540
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 4: myself with another one and then you know, I'm gonna

1541
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 4: eat the three four hours and let you know, let

1542
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 4: it pass through. Maybe do some exercise in there, run

1543
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 4: some sprints in the McDonald's.

1544
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: Now that's that. That would be a sight. What's that guy?

1545
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: He's got a sauna suit on. You just made boat

1546
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 2: and crack?

1547
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think of that?

1548
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: How would you feel if you were at McDonald's.

1549
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: Hey, I mean I must know he's got a fantasy

1550
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: football punishment going on. Either that or I mean he's

1551
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: got to he's an influencer, try and to make his mark.

1552
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: You mentioned that this guy has to pay for his

1553
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: own food, right, I think that's part of the gages. Yeah,

1554
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 2: that changes it for that turns me into the Oakland

1555
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: Athletics where I gotta find the inefficiencies and the menu here.

1556
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: Did you find one that stood out?

1557
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the quarter pounder with cheese is only fifteen

1558
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: minutes less than the double quarter pounder, So I think

1559
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: you got to go with that. But if we're paying

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01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: it for yourself, the mcdouble is the way to go

1561
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: two for four. Just throw those back as much as

1562
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: you can. Yeah, from a cash out like a Chris.

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01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 10: I'm going for the mcchickens. I don't First off, I

1564
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 10: don't know why all of the chicken sandwiches are the

1565
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,839
Speaker 10: same price on here if I wasn't, So here's.

1566
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: Each Friday forty five minute reduction.

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 10: I would go during the Lent when I know the

1568
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 10: file of fish is like two fifty, because that's forty

1569
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 10: five minutes on here. I crushed two of those on

1570
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 10: a Friday in Lent. Every year. I think the sausage

1571
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 10: burritos for breakfast. Yeah, you can get four of them

1572
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 10: like each one, and they're small and each one's thirty minutes.

1573
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 10: But definitely I got to stay away from any kind

1574
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 10: of fries. The McNuggets, like the mgnonic McMug nugget.

1575
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: One is just evidently you can get a five minute

1576
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: reduction by playing in the ball pitch.

1577
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1578
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 9: Byline, And we actually do have some breaking news. This

1579
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 9: jentleman has just begun his odyssey. His first order is

1580
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,879
Speaker 9: in and it is two orders of the big breakfast

1581
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 9: platter and the seventeen orders of hash brown Wow.

1582
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 10: Hash Browns are twenty five minutes each. I don't Yeah,

1583
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 10: you're going to fill yourself up on the potatoes. I

1584
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 10: think it's yeah, I.

1585
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Think it's good. But the hash Browns are expect okay.

1586
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 4: But but there you go, guys, if you're getting reduction,

1587
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in the ball pit, running high

1588
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 4: knee drills and getting in shape.

1589
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: Hey wait, wait to go, Russell Wilson.

1590
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 10: Way to make that still McDonald's that has a ballpit.

1591
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: The other thing we've.

1592
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 2: Learned now is that there's no outlets at this McDonald's

1593
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: he's eating at so we're he's gonna run out of

1594
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: power eventually.

1595
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: We're not going to know.

1596
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Well, I mean he's got hopefully he's got

1597
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: a couple of brick chargers and he's got them all

1598
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: charged up and ready to go. I can't wait to

1599
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: chronicle this so and we'll get to updated tomorrow.

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01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: Ryan Hollins, you I think I could go fifteen deep

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01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: on double cheeseburgers.

1602
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 3: They're small, that's the way to go.

1603
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 2: All right, We'll keep reevaluating this and maybe we'll see

1604
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: how this flows. And now I've wetted everybody's appetite. Thank you, Iilo,

1605
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: thank you both. Thank you Chris making us sound so

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: pretty Thanks Ryan, I'll see you in the morning. Enjoy

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01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 2: your sports Saturday folks. Jonas Knox coming up next here

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.