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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World head hours at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Friscola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brothers,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: final practice of the week before the cowboys third preseason

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Speaker 1: game against the Houston Texans at AT and T Stadium

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night. Rob Phillips, Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: right down yonder. Bill Jones might be joining us again today,

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Speaker 1: He's got some TV duties to attend to. U. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: starting to trickle onto the practice field here for like

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Speaker 1: I said, it's the third open practice of the week

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Speaker 1: and their last prep if you want to call it

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Speaker 1: a somber feeling among the Cowboys organizations the Cowboys family

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Speaker 1: this morning, as former Cowboys quarterback and current play by

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Speaker 1: play man Babe Laffenberg's son Luke passed away after a

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Speaker 1: courageous fight with cancer. Um just awful news, uh, that

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Speaker 1: that Babe announced today and that you know, word has

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Speaker 1: gotten through the Cowboys family. Just a tough moment right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys, it's never easy, even if you that

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Speaker 1: was sort of the expected outcome. Unfortunately, when Luke's cancer

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Speaker 1: came back, and and then when it happens, it just

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Speaker 1: it just hits you, and it hit the head coach,

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Speaker 1: which in turn hit the rest of us. I think

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Speaker 1: when he talked for about I don't know, what do

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Speaker 1: you think two minutes trying to explain what he thought

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Speaker 1: of Luke and just go to Dallas Cowboys dot com

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to listen to it. And that's all

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Speaker 1: he talked about today. It was very brief, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody would have even tried to ask a

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Speaker 1: Jason in that situation. He's out at practice right now,

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Speaker 1: standing on the fifty yard line and I think practice

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Speaker 1: probably gonna it might start a little late. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it took him a while to compose himself. He was

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Speaker 1: very close to Babe and to Luke, Babe's family, and

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Speaker 1: so this one I think it hit really hard. And

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Speaker 1: if if I noticed right, it looked like he and

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Speaker 1: Darryl Johnston had an embraced there just before we came

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Speaker 1: on the air. So, yeah, tough day. And as Jason said,

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Speaker 1: he was an amazing young man. How hard he tried

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Speaker 1: to fight to defeat this, and he had some choices

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Speaker 1: and his last choice was I'll do everything I can

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Speaker 1: to try to live. Coaches do a great job of

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Speaker 1: putting things in perspective. They understand they deal with a

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Speaker 1: lot of emotions as they go along. It was very

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Speaker 1: difficult to watch Jason Garrett stand up there because he

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Speaker 1: was clearly grieving. We've always seen him as being a

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Speaker 1: we've all had our difference. I mean I've had differences,

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Speaker 1: but you saw the human side of him today in

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Speaker 1: this press conference. So he obviously has lost a close friend.

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Speaker 1: It means a lot to him. You know, he tried.

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Speaker 1: He'll try and celebrate Luke's life the best he can

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Speaker 1: as as a coach. He'll go out here and as

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett say, who will have the best day he

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Speaker 1: can have practicing And that's all you can do. You

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Speaker 1: celebrate the young man's life. You move on. Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: is doing his best right now to be out there

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Speaker 1: and to coach his team, and you know he knows

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Speaker 1: he has a job. But again, you saw the human

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Speaker 1: side of Jason Garrett today. It's a very difficult situation

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Speaker 1: to deal with. But coaches tend to have this mechanism

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Speaker 1: things that happened to them, put them aside for a

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Speaker 1: little bit, focus on their job, and then come back

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Speaker 1: to him when need be. Here's a go ahead, and

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Speaker 1: he's called the team up and probably trying to explain

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Speaker 1: to everybody what went on. What's going on? Babe just

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Speaker 1: tweeted it out at about ten twenty this morning. The

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Speaker 1: he's not as automated as everybody thinks he is. And again,

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Speaker 1: he's very close to Babe and Babe's family. This is

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Speaker 1: a partial quote from what Jason said this morning. Again,

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Speaker 1: guys have heard me talk about fight a lot. I

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Speaker 1: something awful. Yeah, that has you know, affected so many people.

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Speaker 1: Cancer is difficult to deal with. Any illness is difficult

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Speaker 1: on and Babe laughlinburg again former, you know, former professional player. Former.

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Speaker 1: You know, he understands, he's his life has been a

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Speaker 1: Yes it's his son, but he will choose to find

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Speaker 1: Keep going forward, honor the ones we lost, move on

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Speaker 1: and because that, you know, Luke would want him to

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Speaker 1: a great practice today and have the Stallas Cowboys team

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Speaker 1: Well said, Well said both guys. Um Okay, practice getting

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there'll be a few vets here. I

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Speaker 1: when you're an undrafted free agent. Yeah, no, bad days, right,

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Speaker 1: and those are not easy, especially when it's down inside

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Speaker 1: the ten yard line, right one against Michael Gallop. And

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Speaker 1: he ended practice in second team work in that situational

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Speaker 1: deal with a pass breakup on fourth down against Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 1: He has been he was all over the field. Did

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Speaker 1: he get it? Oh? No, he got a pod. But

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Speaker 1: Mickey Mickey from his press box seat would have challenged it.

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Speaker 1: Mickey would have said, if Mickey it was one of

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Speaker 1: those things where Mickey's team needed to complete the fourth downpad,

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Speaker 1: Mickey would have challenged that. I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: good Alumba he did. He kind of jammed with the right,

437
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Speaker 1: but he grabbed Donald Lumba has got these white gloves

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Speaker 1: and he's figured out that the offense is wearing white jerseys.

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Speaker 1: So he's got these big white gloves that he wears

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Speaker 1: and he's able to kind of grab him, pull and

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Speaker 1: kind of go around guys. And that's what he did. Yes,

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Speaker 1: even But see, Donovan Alumba is smart, and Mickey talked

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Speaker 1: about this. Donovan Olumba knows he's not fast, he knows

444
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Speaker 1: he's deficient in a lot of areas. But what Donovan

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Speaker 1: Olumba does is he puts himself in position to make

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Speaker 1: plays and that the officials are not gonna throw flags

447
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Speaker 1: on him. They got him the other day. But if

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna throw flags on him out here on

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Speaker 1: fourth down, why not grab whole pull, get around, playoff handball.

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Speaker 1: I would have challenged several more calls in the game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday too, By the way, I was in the

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Speaker 1: box and I'm supposed to be the stat guy right

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Speaker 1: and spotter, and Night was going like this, I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: my red flag and they only threw it once. I

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Speaker 1: would have thrown it about three times. Micky can ask

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Speaker 1: you a question of periscope here. They want fans want

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Speaker 1: to rob too. They want to know if the if

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Speaker 1: the uh, the Jalen Smith's signing will have any impact

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Speaker 1: on the other ones maybe signing. I was going to

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Speaker 1: throw that out to you Saturday. No, we just didn't

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Speaker 1: get to it. Um. Yeah, that's a good question. Could

462
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Speaker 1: that spur allspie now if they trying to get in

463
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Speaker 1: the door sooner. If there's less pie, it's very very

464
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Speaker 1: less pie. The piece I would eat like a little

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Speaker 1: sliver that Brian would take on his diet, just very well,

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Speaker 1: just to have a taste. So look here, here's the

467
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Speaker 1: effect on the cap this year. Uh, what they did

468
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Speaker 1: with that entire contract is basically he's under contract for

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Speaker 1: this year. Next year he would have been under on

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Speaker 1: track as a first round tender as a restricted free agent.

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Speaker 1: So they basically gave him what the projected amount of

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Speaker 1: that for his base salary, so it's right around five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. His base salary for this year is lowered,

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Speaker 1: but they put five million dollars signing Botus into it,

475
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: so he's gonna make over six million dollars with big Kick,

476
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Speaker 1: so it'll go up some next year, and then when

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Speaker 1: the extension hit, that's when his base salary goes up.

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Speaker 1: So essentially, to make this very simple for you guys,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to a seven year, sixty nine million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract. So if I divide seven in the sixty nine,

481
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Speaker 1: I'm right at ten million a year, just a little

482
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Speaker 1: bit less. A very good club friendly contract. But Jalen

483
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: gets his money before he was gonna have to get it,

484
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Speaker 1: So he's got five million dollars in his pocket right now,

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Speaker 1: two years before they would have given it to him.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is because of how they structured his

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Speaker 1: first year. Actually, his cap value for this year only

488
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: goes up five hundred thousand dollars, so that doesn't affect

489
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Speaker 1: anything that they do with the other guys for this

490
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Speaker 1: year and really for next year two. Then it's the

491
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Speaker 1: following year that the base salary goes up, probably doubles,

492
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Speaker 1: and then it starts getting high. But then again, the

493
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Speaker 1: cap should go up, right, It's never gone down, it's

494
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Speaker 1: always gone up, so it really shouldn't affect it all

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Speaker 1: that much. And I'm looking up Jalen's age right now.

496
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Speaker 1: I think it's twenty twenty four years. I was gonna

497
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Speaker 1: say twenty four years, so you know he signed I

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Speaker 1: think through twenty twenty five. Yes, that correct, right, so

499
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Speaker 1: he'll still be a young guy. He'll be about thirty

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Speaker 1: years old with an opportunity to cash in one more

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Speaker 1: time in his career. So I'm sure that's a factor too.

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Speaker 1: You know, you hit free agency a little earlier than

503
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Speaker 1: you might have been if you'd waited it out, so

504
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: and try to bet on yourself for another year. And

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00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: the other thing they did in the contract they put

506
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Speaker 1: a couple of years of guaranteed roster bonus in there,

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Speaker 1: and then there's roster bonuses over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So actually, if they wanted to get out of the

509
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Speaker 1: contract after three years, it would be a three year,

510
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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars deal and they would have six

511
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: point eight million in dead money. So the way they

512
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Speaker 1: structured it, as Jerry was trying to point out through

513
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: that whole deal, was this was very team friendly. Team

514
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: was the precedence. Yea, all right, let's let's that's Michael Gallup, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, Cooper Rush showing the ball ruin, and there's

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Speaker 1: Devin Smith for you right there. And you know the

517
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: other guy that's out here catching passes as Taran Taran

518
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: Christian too, So they've had him lined up all over

519
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: the place fullback, uh, little tight end. You know what,

520
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I think this kid's gonna make this team on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad because not only can he play quarterback for you,

522
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Speaker 1: he can also fill in at other positions. He's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He's Jamal shot ye get ready. During camp, he's gonna

524
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Speaker 1: learn how to play safety too. For practice squad. Stuff's

525
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Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna do everything that showers to who ran

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Speaker 1: out of practice squad eligible a run for that kid,

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00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: he's done that for three four years, where just whatever

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Speaker 1: you need to give the team a look during right, Um,

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Speaker 1: he got Christian got some quarterback reps yesterday, but it

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Speaker 1: was two days the first time a long time. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yesterday it was kind of back to Jack Jack

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Speaker 1: of all true before he was getting like one snap

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Speaker 1: and that was it. Right. Yeah, but they like him,

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Speaker 1: They like him as an athlete, yep, they sure do.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take our final break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: more questions from you guys on periscope, hit us up

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Speaker 1: inside Sports Center at the Star in Frisco Cowboys just

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Speaker 1: getting warmed up here at practice today, a lighter practice.

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Speaker 1: They're in shells, no pads, and Brian it looks like

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Speaker 1: they're doing some minimal prep as they always do for

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Speaker 1: these preseason games. Yeah, they are. Rob They're down in

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Speaker 1: they're showing the Texans secondary and how they would play

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Speaker 1: down here. So the twos are getting a little look

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Speaker 1: then they're also keeping the big guys off their feet.

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Speaker 1: They're the defensive linemen are over to our right, the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman to our left, across the field doing just

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Speaker 1: little individual drills. But he's probably trying to keep those

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Speaker 1: guys off their feet as long as he can. Got

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Speaker 1: a Twitter question from Jake A couple questions. Number one,

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Speaker 1: who do you all believe has the edge currently? On

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Speaker 1: the defensive end depth chart between Joe Jackson and Jalen Jelks. Also,

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Speaker 1: Connor McGovern finally got into pads this week. Is that

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Speaker 1: correct or No, Well, he got into pads. He's always

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Speaker 1: worn pads. He just doesn't get to play in the pads.

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Speaker 1: He goes out on one hundred degree field and runs

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Speaker 1: and sweats and does all that. He's got to get stronger.

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Speaker 1: But no, he didn't. He wears pads, he just doesn't

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Speaker 1: get to play it ready to practice. He's not ready

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Speaker 1: to practice yet. So I'll take care of that. I

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Speaker 1: think that if they had to pick one, I think

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Speaker 1: they would take Jackson over jokes. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: that that jokes to me, Carrie Hiders the one that's

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Speaker 1: put himself into this mix, right, So if it's if

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Speaker 1: it's jokes or a Hider, to me, that they would

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Speaker 1: take Hider, you know. I feel like that they with

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Speaker 1: some of the things that they've had happened at defensive end,

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Speaker 1: they have to protect themselves. Hiders a veteran guy. He

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Speaker 1: knows how to play, he knows how to get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. He could also play as the undertackle if

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Speaker 1: you need him in some stuff and they're starting to

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Speaker 1: do that too, with a little with Joe Jackson. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you could do that with jokes. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna try and get jokes to the practice squad myself.

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Speaker 1: And they've kind of flipped it now. They're running big offense,

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Speaker 1: the defense. Calvalero, the Coachsons looks there. You go, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see. This is what the Texans gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Texans play with multiple tight ends. I watched them a

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Speaker 1: little bit last week. They played multiple tight ends. But

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Speaker 1: they've got these really, They've got some good receivers. Nice.

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Speaker 1: They run through a lot of backs too, is another

637
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Speaker 1: thing that they like to do. So. By the way, Uh,

638
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath back out on the field. He had had

639
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: a stinger. Uh worked minimally yesterday second team. He's back

640
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: out there with the first team defense. You got a

641
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: little more clarity speaking of injuries on Amari Cooper's Yes,

642
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: I've got I've got a name for what he's suffering

643
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: in that what did they call it initially to heal

644
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: irritation or something like that. Did you have to hyphenate it?

645
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: It's called an intrinsic muscle strain. There you go, and

646
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: what the muscle is. It's a muscle on the outside

647
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: of your foot, very small, thin muscle, and it controls

648
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: the inflection of your little toe. Wow, So who would

649
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: think that the season is hanging on a little bit

650
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: a little toe? Yeah, and what do you do? You

651
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: don't need to inflex it or whatever. The I know

652
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: if you try, if you ever tried not using the

653
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: outside of your foot to do anything, it's it's pretty difficult. Uh.

654
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: So they're pretty confident. He's pretty confident that he will

655
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: be ready to go for the season opening. Speaking of

656
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: ready to go, I noticed that Chris Covington is back

657
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: out there too, working with good eye. Uh March uh,

658
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: justin March. Shan Lee, Yeah, and Sean Lee out there. Yeah.

659
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: So it's good to see Sean Lee, Jalen Smith and Day.

660
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: It looks like they gave the man, the money man,

661
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: get the day off here. Maybe he's out there earlier though. Yeah,

662
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: he's out there at the thirty yard line. He's just

663
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: taking him out of the team stuff. Yeah, give him

664
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: an easy day. Sean Lee, by the way, has jumped

665
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: right back in. I think we mentioned that yesterday Hanna

666
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: would be sack on Dak yesterday and I think that

667
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: was daring Blitz period Um. He looks good, No, no issue.

668
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: This linebacker crew is a good looking crew. When you

669
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: stand there next to him, like it practiced when we

670
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: were an ox start, I'm going, my gosh. You know

671
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: vander ash Smith, Thomas Covington, you know those guys, they

672
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: all look like they got off the bus together, you know.

673
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean it is a good looking group physically at

674
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: that position. Now you forget how big Vanderish is down

675
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: next to him. Yeah, that's a big man. It's a

676
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: really big man playing linebacker. Well, remember how physical Sean

677
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: Lee looked. Used to look at it. Sean Lee's bulked up.

678
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: He's small compared to those other two linebackers he plays

679
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: next to. He really has. Yeah, I'm supposed to visit

680
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: with Justin Phillips Vanderish right there, My gosh, Sean Lee

681
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: getting a good man. You're you're like a safety. You're

682
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: seeing what Cavon Frasier's looking at right now? Oh, here

683
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: we go. There's there's a lumba again, number thirty two. Yeah,

684
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to visit with Justin Phillips. Ever, Franks, I

685
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: want to ask him what it's like being in that

686
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: room because it's got to be maybe a little intimidating

687
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: giving the amount of talent experience a kid make. He

688
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: makes play. He's not a step right in and played well.

689
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: They have to appreciate how well he's come out here

690
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: and played. You know, you see, you know, it was

691
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: ninety something degrees on that field in Hawaii there day

692
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: and he's running around like it's you know, week thirteen

693
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I mean he's running around

694
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: making plays. That's a bottom of mine. I mean, that's

695
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. See Mike White, he held the

696
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: ball again, and it's scout team. There's Phillips right there.

697
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: It's Scout team. You can't come on, Mike, throw the

698
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: ball to move the ball on and I don't know

699
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: that Jalen guy needs to be celebrating. So that's team

700
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: Scotch mode today and we are hopscotching the coach. Were

701
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: sorry about that, but we're going what's on the video,

702
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: coach exact, paying attention, paying attention the videos. One more question.

703
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Stan checks in on Twitter asking about Donovan Wilson. Yeah,

704
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: what you've seen from him the last week or so,

705
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: maybe at safety you got anything on that room. Uh,

706
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know obviously he stepped up.

707
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: You saw him with the interception in the one preseason

708
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: game and uh suffered a little hand brewis yesterday. I

709
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: think it was his thumb. Yeah, but trainers said, okay,

710
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: right right, yeah, you got that report, So okay, So

711
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's back out here today. He's got a

712
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: little black glove on. But you're watching Crawford, uh and

713
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: Lawrence that's too drill. That's tools right there. I which

714
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: we can we go back to that. I don't know

715
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: if we could produce on the flyer. I guess we're

716
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna get some inside action here more from Mike White

717
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: and then throwing the football. But if you saw what

718
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: he was doing right there, that's what every young player

719
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: needs to watch. That's what That's what Tristan Hill. Nice

720
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: job right there by Wilson again, Cedric Wilson. He's a

721
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: good looking kid. We're finally gonna get a little team.

722
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: Actually look at that man. Yea. Even even Jalen Smith

723
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: went over and said, hey, nice job there, man. That

724
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: kid he's he's feeling it. He's feeling it. That's what

725
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: you gotta have he's playing with a lot of confidence

726
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: right now. That kid made a lot of plays at Boise.

727
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: You think it helped him to just be around the

728
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: team last year, even though he was hurt. I mean,

729
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: just to kind of be around the system a little bit.

730
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: But he didn't show up until like the like the

731
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: second week of practice or the you know, I mean,

732
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: maybe it took him. Mickey always likes to say, hey,

733
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: these guys haven't played in a while, maybe it takes

734
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: him time to get going. I need to buy into

735
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: that theory a little bit. I think that's what happened

736
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: with Devin Smith. Yeah, you know, he hadn't played in

737
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: over a year and a half. Yeah, and you know

738
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: he's out here and it's like okay, and then all

739
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's feeling it. But we're still on

740
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: card practices. So yeah, the scout team defense is out

741
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: there against the first team offense. Here we go. So again,

742
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: it's one of you don't read too much into that

743
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: when they're running cards, hey and prepping. Can I ask

744
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: a question all along, I've kind of thought if they

745
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: had to play the Giants tomorrow, that Alfred Morris would

746
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: be the sign, would be the starter should I go

747
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: away from that? Right now? This was a mail back

748
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: question like what what does Zeke? How does Zeke impact?

749
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: If I'm sorry, yeah, if Zeke's not playing, I'm sorry

750
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: about Well. If he's not playing, is he that's your question?

751
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: Is is no? If he's not playing, no, I'm saying, Oh,

752
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't count against the fifty three? But is Pollard

753
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna be the starter against the Giants? I thought it

754
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: was gonna be Alfred Morris? Am I wrong about that?

755
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: They haven't seen any sight of that what I'm saying,

756
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of feel like I'm being wrong.

757
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Not only do I think it's Pollard because he started

758
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: the first two preseason games. If Zeke's not he played nine,

759
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the first nine taken him out, just like they have

760
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, right and the guys that you know, we're

761
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: going to be a big part of this thing. So yeah,

762
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: I would think so too. Um, of course we don't know.

763
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're hoping Zeke can get done

764
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: before I think Morris, or he just shows up without

765
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: a new deal. What Morris gets a series here or

766
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: a series there? Uh? As long as Pollard uh is

767
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: sharp on picking up his blitz pickups. There you go.

768
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: You think Morris is the third running back on this

769
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: team with Zeke Nicky said all along, Chun, I think

770
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: Mickey's onto something. That was another male back question. I think,

771
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: I said, I said, you know, I think a better

772
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Rod Smith. He plays well on special teams. He's a

773
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: physical guy, he could catch, He's got toughness to him.

774
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: I Mickey said it all along. He said, hey, well

775
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: that wash Morris got here. Yeah. But but I so

776
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 1: basically they only gave Morris a ninety thousand dollars sign.

777
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: If it's if it's Elliott, I would feel good about

778
00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: this Elliott Pollard Chun. I wouldn't feel poorly about out

779
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: that group because we saw yesterday and to check out scouts,

780
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: I I wrote about OLDI Wally catching the ball down

781
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: the sidelines. I mean, that's something he can do. If

782
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: they have to play with a single back, Old Wally

783
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: might get into that have to be special teams too

784
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: as a factor with I mean because it is because

785
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: you got you got two linebackers that don't play special teams.

786
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, does Slate Vanderis really play special teams? Really? Three? Yeah,

787
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: Sean leadon play special teams even though he's a starter.

788
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to send Jalen Smith Smith. Yeah, I

789
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: mean you win. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. And

790
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: and in the game against the Rams, Chun had two

791
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: special teams tackles and he had another play and I

792
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: don't remember which one it was. He went down there

793
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: and he blew something up. He caused another guy to

794
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: make a tackle. So he was active in coverage on

795
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: special teams. And if you're gonna have three running backs active,

796
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: at least one of them has to play special teams.

797
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: And actually you would have two because Pollard can return

798
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: for you if you want Number eighty Marcus Lucas running

799
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: with the ones today he's the only tight end of

800
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: the early tight end. What have you guys seen from him?

801
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: That was another question on opportunities. I talked to him yesterday.

802
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: I said you weren't out yet. He goes, oh, man,

803
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: this was great. And I said, well, you can only

804
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: ask for opportunities. He goes, that's what it's all about. Yeah,

805
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: And he was happy Camper, even if they looked at

806
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: him as maybe the fifth tight end out there. Uh,

807
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: he just feels like he's getting an opportunity to show

808
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: people not only here, but maybe somewhere elsebody needs to

809
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: be at the tight end up. You're absolutely right. The

810
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: kid has been in a lot of places. You know,

811
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: he's just trying to find a home right now. And

812
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, we we all believe that the tight end

813
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: injury situation will take care of itself. Yeah, I don't

814
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: think any of these injuries are considering. But I don't think, yeah,

815
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the kid has done

816
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: bad for himself. There's a lot of times you're very

817
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: apprehensive about bringing somebody in off the street. I remember

818
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: George Selby come in here, you know, off the street

819
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: basically on a July thirtieth practice, and Allsen showing up

820
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: and playing, having a nice career for the Cowboys. And

821
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: now he's still here. Yeah, but as a volunteer coach

822
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: or whatever they call him, as a personnel guy, you'd

823
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: never want to bring a player that doesn't show well

824
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: in camp. But you just remember, well, Marcus Lucas was

825
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: the University of Missouri's second leading receiver on the team

826
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: that went to the SEC Championship in in in Atlanta

827
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: and lost to Auburn. Talked about the tight with a

828
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: tight game into the fourth quarter before they didn't score

829
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: enough points because I think a uh oh, gosh, I'm

830
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna forget Auburn's running back. Uh I think he's still

831
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: running for yards. No, no, it was it was before that.

832
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: It was a twenty thirteen season. Okay, the guys still

833
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: gaining yards. I'm sorry, Mick. And a matter of fact,

834
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: I prought it up to him and he goes, yeah,

835
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: he goes, for some reason, we changed our defensive for May,

836
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: and I go I know, I was yelling from the

837
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: stands that that's not the formulation to be Mickey. On

838
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: a game day on an airplane wherever we are traveling,

839
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: we get and I was I was almost close enough

840
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: time I'll catch I was gonna ask any thought about

841
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: just carrying five wide receivers. I said that the other day.

842
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: The possibility. I said that the other day, And you're

843
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to go along at one of these other

844
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: positions that you know, if you don't feel great about

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Speaker 1: the six wide receiver here, why not go long at

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Speaker 1: another place. To your point, if Noah Brown starts the

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Speaker 1: season on pup, you don't know if that necessarily means

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Speaker 1: you gotta keep sig weather receivers. In addition, if you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have said, you're right, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean you could go. Defensive line is

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Speaker 1: changed a lot in terms of depth from those George

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Speaker 1: Selvy days and right, I want to keep an extra

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. We'll see what happens there. Practice is continuing on.

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