Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: bomb chicken on the trigger. Dann's have to wait forty
Speaker 1: minutes or so before they get to dive. In Coming up,
Speaker 1: Mike Florio will join us. The Raiders got financially spanked yesterday.
Speaker 1: Five hundred thousand dollars stripped of a sixth round pick
Speaker 1: for more COVID nineteen violations, plus one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars fine for John Gruden. So you're talking about
Speaker 1: over a million dollars so far. And this is punishment
Speaker 1: for Trent Brown not wearing his tracking device at times
Speaker 1: while at the team facility, testing positive after his teammates
Speaker 1: tested and as well as safety Jonathan Abram they were
Speaker 1: in close proximity with him without mask on. So the
Speaker 1: third time this season the Raiders have been punished for
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen violations. Hey, we lead the league in one category.
Speaker 1: What's that be punished by the commissioner for COVID? And
Speaker 1: this is a playoff caliber team. Remember Gruden was fined
Speaker 1: for not consistently wearing his master in the Raiders season
Speaker 1: opener against Carolina he was fined one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for that team Find two hundred and fifty thousand. The
Speaker 1: second punishment came after several players appeared at a charity
Speaker 1: event without mask on. That's thirty thousand dollars for one player.
Speaker 1: Other players, including Derek Carr, find fifteen thousand dollars. So
Speaker 1: that puts your grand total two over one million dollars.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Area Raiders, and this is a good team. I
Speaker 1: think they're playoff caliber team. They're a good ish team,
Speaker 1: played well in Cleveland last week and here we are again.
Speaker 1: And this is what the NFL agreed upon, the players association,
Speaker 1: and the owners, everybody agreed on this. These are the protocols,
Speaker 1: and you have to adhere to these because if not,
Speaker 1: you're going to get a situation that is, it's not
Speaker 1: quite what Wisconsin football is right now, but Wisconsin may
Speaker 1: have to shut down their season. If you're not going
Speaker 1: to follow these protocols, chances are you're putting your season
Speaker 1: at risk and the NFL will just not stand for that.
Speaker 1: You know, the nc DOABLEA isn't finding or you know,
Speaker 1: taking away whatever scholarship from Wisconsin. But if I'm the NCAA.
Speaker 1: I would look into that because and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they have the power to it. I'm guessing or
Speaker 1: the Big Ten should be looking at this. You have
Speaker 1: to police your own conference, your own schools. Look at
Speaker 1: what happened in the Pac twelve already. They haven't even
Speaker 1: played yet a game. Cancel Cow. How is it Cow
Speaker 1: can't play a game with positives but basically in the
Speaker 1: same area the Niners could play last night with positives.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just the difference between the NFL and
Speaker 1: Pack twelve football and the amount of money that's at
Speaker 1: staked there. But last night, Aaron Rodgers looked brilliant four
Speaker 1: touchdown passes and he had this to say, you know,
Speaker 1: we've gotten off to a good start every single week
Speaker 1: and that's been important for our football team. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: been you know, the scripting than Matt does. And then
Speaker 1: we've just kind of out and executed really well. In
Speaker 1: the last two and a half years, he's had seventy
Speaker 1: five touchdown passes and eight interceptions. Hey, let's draft a quarterback. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what we need on this team. A quarterback.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna see it coming. Yeah, and the Packers
Speaker 1: select Jordan Love out of Utah State. Yes, I did
Speaker 1: watch Utah State last night against Nevada. Good good helmets.
Speaker 1: Yeah State, Yeah, it was good. It was fun. Good
Speaker 1: to watch some football and Boise State and by you
Speaker 1: will be on my TV set coming up tonight. Clemson
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Now it's down to five. It was seven,
Speaker 1: Now it's down to five. Florida Georgia. I just like
Speaker 1: saying Florida Georgia line. Todd always goes, wait, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I go, know the group, Florida Georgia line,
Speaker 1: and then Todd always give me the point spread. It's
Speaker 1: just us Todd having a little fun there. Michigan and Indiana. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michigan three and a half, last hour. This is one
Speaker 1: of the better teases I've had since I've been doing this,
Speaker 1: and I've been doing this a long time. Ryan and
Speaker 1: Honolulu called in, and I was up against a hard out,
Speaker 1: as we like to say in the radio industry. So
Speaker 1: I was going to commercial break. I had to be
Speaker 1: out at the certain time, and you know, Ryan, one
Speaker 1: of our long time listeners, and I said, look, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait till next hour to give us
Speaker 1: the mock headlines that you have, and I think that
Speaker 1: kept a lot of people in their cars. So people probably,
Speaker 1: you know, five minutes late for work right now. But
Speaker 1: Ryan joining us from our honolul affiliate. Ryan, thanks for
Speaker 1: staying with us in the final hour. You're welcome. Dan.
Speaker 1: I'm an amateur. I can handle it, Okay. So I've
Speaker 1: got a couple of comments on Todd and then I've
Speaker 1: got a couple of mock horse lines to finish off with. Okay,
Speaker 1: pod one the inaugurable Oh man, I missed that up
Speaker 1: inaugural Golden Phoney Awards, so technically he's the most awarded
Speaker 1: booker in the bits. Yes, yes, he did win. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys talked about complimenting. Now you gotta compliment your
Speaker 1: wife because I tell her she's pretty every day. You
Speaker 1: don't have to lie when it's the truth. Now, I
Speaker 1: was blessed to meet with Todd and his family in
Speaker 1: Hawaii when he came, and he has a beautiful family
Speaker 1: and they were amazing last year. And see over complimenting
Speaker 1: his good Todd, didn't that feel good? Didn't that make
Speaker 1: you feel good? It did make me feel very good,
Speaker 1: very warm feeling. And I'll do a hard hour here
Speaker 1: Mark horse lines Stallion of the Day first time for
Speaker 1: a long time, and this one for Poli fol Liage.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I think that's I think that's a trot
Speaker 1: off Dan. All right, thank you Ryan. That's Ryan in Honolulu.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you had met with Ryan. I
Speaker 1: went to a University of Honolulu Hawaii basketball game while
Speaker 1: we won vacation and you met Ryan, and Ryan was there,
Speaker 1: introduced me to his lovely wife and I we did
Speaker 1: a little bit in like between the seats. They did
Speaker 1: like a little interview with me. It was very nice.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine you go to Hawaii with your wife
Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, let's don't go to
Speaker 1: the beach, Let's go inside and watch a basketball game.
Speaker 1: The girls weren't as excited as my son and I were,
Speaker 1: but like it was like one of those classic things
Speaker 1: with like with other schools. It wasn't just like the
Speaker 1: University of Hawaiian there were like teams from around the
Speaker 1: country doing one of those like the Maui Classic. Thay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that made it that much more excited for
Speaker 1: my wife and we got through it all right. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's Ryan. Ryan and Hollolulu. Yes, Ryan, the Fritzie
Speaker 1: of callers, the Golden Booker. You know. By the way,
Speaker 1: Ryan bringing up something we mentioned two hours ago, which
Speaker 1: doesn't always translate to the audience listening. If Todd had
Speaker 1: done that, looks like Ryan just did. He would have
Speaker 1: been spoken to. Yes, Todd, No one even knows what
Speaker 1: they're talking about, right, Yes, yes, those two hours ago Todd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one even knows what that means. Yeah, But Ryan, Ryan,
Speaker 1: No one even knows what that means. Yan. I don't
Speaker 1: know Ryan. I didn't meet him in a basketball game,
Speaker 1: so I can't say, Ryan, you can't do that. You
Speaker 1: got to be topical right down, not something happened two
Speaker 1: hours ago. You're better than that. Uh, Packers roll over
Speaker 1: the Niners and Davante Adams. I guess grabbing some headlines.
Speaker 1: Maybe we were just trying to grab something out of
Speaker 1: this game other than Aaron Rodgers is still really, really,
Speaker 1: really good. But here's the question and the answer that's
Speaker 1: creating some headlines here. I think you're at the point
Speaker 1: where you can say you're the best wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Do you think that's fair to say? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say, I think that's not
Speaker 1: that's not being conceited, that's just being confident. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: you know obviously what I've what I've done, and UM,
Speaker 1: what I'm going to continue to do is going to
Speaker 1: prove that, um to anybody who isn't on board with that.
Speaker 1: But I truly believe that just based off of the
Speaker 1: work that I put in. Um, you know, the connection
Speaker 1: that I have between my quarterback. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: just about me, I mean just running a route and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get you get the gist of it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's boasting. He's confident, and the reporter is
Speaker 1: leading the witness to basically saying, hey, do you want
Speaker 1: to agree with me, you're the best receiver in football?
Speaker 1: I would hope my receiver if it's Davante Adams or
Speaker 1: you know, we go around the league and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there's quite a few of those. DeAndre Hopkins, none of
Speaker 1: the Bears wide receivers, they answer a question that way.
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you there's there's a few teams if
Speaker 1: you ask the wide receivers, you're the best wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But Davonte Adams has put up these big numbers I
Speaker 1: mean these I'm surprised when he doesn't put up these numbers.
Speaker 1: But it always feels like Green Bay wide receivers get
Speaker 1: overshadowed by Aaron Rodgers and Brett Farve. Now they are
Speaker 1: lifted up by them, so they're overshadowed. But then I
Speaker 1: can also say, but because of Aaron Rodgers, you know,
Speaker 1: if you have somebody else in there as Davante Adams
Speaker 1: the same wide receiver, no he's not. But you're playing
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers and those who played with Brett Farve,
Speaker 1: you were you were going to get the ball. You
Speaker 1: were playing in big games, you're playing on national TV.
Speaker 1: You get a lot of a lot of publicity, and
Speaker 1: you know there's some nice, you know, wide receivers there.
Speaker 1: I thought that Sterling Sharpe was a wonderful receiver and
Speaker 1: headed to the Hall of Fame before he got injured.
Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, it doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: these receivers get elevated to the point where we go
Speaker 1: they're the best in football. The group always feels like
Speaker 1: it can be one of the best groups in football,
Speaker 1: But singularly you don't feel that way. But with Davante Adams,
Speaker 1: he wants to, you know, look at himself as the
Speaker 1: best receiver. Great. I love when you walk on the
Speaker 1: field and you want to prove it. You feel like
Speaker 1: you have to prove it every week. Yeah, can I
Speaker 1: ruin your Friday with the system argument? Yes you can.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's certain teams where the wide receivers
Speaker 1: leave and they stink like there's an even Eli Manning,
Speaker 1: Like there's all these giants receivers have huge numbers in
Speaker 1: that system, then got paid and fell apart. The Steelers
Speaker 1: bad elsewhere, the Patriots terrible elsewhere, the Packers so like
Speaker 1: this certain like you know, it's like you don't trade
Speaker 1: for a Braves pitcher. You don't want a Steelers receiver,
Speaker 1: you don't want a Patriots receiver. So there's got to
Speaker 1: be like a connection there. Well, it's hard to be
Speaker 1: a great receiver with an average quarterback, right absolutely, But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Marry Fitzgerald survived. He's such a miracle because of that, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he did have Carson Palmer and
Speaker 1: he had Kurt Warner, but you look at those other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You have to have a great quarterback there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could have receivers in Chicago, who might be good,
Speaker 1: you just don't have a good quarterback there, And you
Speaker 1: could be great in Jacksonville. And Alan Robinson was really
Speaker 1: talented there. Nobody cared. It's like, you'd be good in Chicago,
Speaker 1: He's just he doesn't have a quarterback. Yeah, but Santonio
Speaker 1: Holmes gets fifty million after being with Big Ben and
Speaker 1: is a complete bus with the Jets. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you can overrate the guy maybe who is his quarterback? Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the Jets, Yeah, nobody. I don't no idea. If
Speaker 1: you're playing a lot of things. There's there's so many
Speaker 1: things that factor into this. You're not just this singular
Speaker 1: talent there where. If there's a basketball team and there's
Speaker 1: five guys, the one guy can take you to the
Speaker 1: next level. In football, how good is my offensive line?
Speaker 1: How good is my quarterback? Who's my offensive coordinator? What
Speaker 1: is the system that we play? If I look back
Speaker 1: on Seattle, if DK Metcalf played with Seattle two years
Speaker 1: or three years ago, they might be still just running
Speaker 1: the football and we wouldn't know about DK Metcalf. They
Speaker 1: had Tyler Lockett and that was it, and they get
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, who drops to them now? All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're a passing team. Yeah. Point, It's almost like a
Speaker 1: psycho though. If you're a team with a great quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're not going to spend on the receivers because you know,
Speaker 1: you just need good receivers. You don't need to spend
Speaker 1: on great You can go back to Dion Branch. Remember
Speaker 1: when he broke out with the Patriots. What twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: years ago, I was a Super Bowl MVP. I think
Speaker 1: he was a household named Dion Branch and they said,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get paid here, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: Seattle and get paid. And he became irrelevant. He became
Speaker 1: good but irrelevant. Yeah, yeah, I'm a club. There was
Speaker 1: some thinking DeAndre Hopkins, well, you know what, if he
Speaker 1: leaves to Shawn Watton, he's gonna not be that good
Speaker 1: and doubt that he was that good. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: a guy leaves a good quarterback and is go to
Speaker 1: another good quarterback. It's great, but there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, wow, I don't know if Hopkins is
Speaker 1: could be as good outside the Texas well, he has
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and Kyler Murray can can run end throw.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how good, consistent. He would be at throwing,
Speaker 1: but he's capable of doing that. DeAndre Hopkins is on
Speaker 1: the shortlist best receivers in the game. Yes, I I
Speaker 1: think an interesting one is Michael Thomas because he's well,
Speaker 1: we're going to find out. Yeah, if if Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: is his quarterback next year, I'm not looking at one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty catches from Michael Thomas. If we did
Speaker 1: this pole last year at this time with Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: maybe with it, yes, yeah, because it felt like you
Speaker 1: knew he was getting it. And he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys that not beating you with speed, he beats you
Speaker 1: with position. He like he finds, he finds spaces or
Speaker 1: he creates space, and you know, extremely difficult. And Chris
Speaker 1: Carter was like this. Chris Carter wasn't going to run
Speaker 1: by you, but he was had that ability. If you
Speaker 1: threw it, he was catching it and creating space there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a Taysom Hill fan. I think he's very underused.
Speaker 1: He should be a running back, receiver, slot guy. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go shower pie in the face on under
Speaker 1: seven and a half games started at quarterback for his
Speaker 1: entire career for Taysom Hill. He's thirty years old. He's
Speaker 1: at Nune so far, you're taking under seven and a
Speaker 1: half total starts starting quarterback position. Quarterback position, not like
Speaker 1: coming into a game at halftime where he is the
Speaker 1: declared starter for a team. Anybody want to take Paulie
Speaker 1: up a pie to the face Taysom Hill. Anybody a
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill fan in here. He'll be thirty one next
Speaker 1: year and has had no starts. He hasn't played quarterback
Speaker 1: since like twenty twelve. You're banking on Taysom Hill not
Speaker 1: being the starting quarterback next year when Drew Breeseley. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to go that direction because then
Speaker 1: that's a rebuild. See. I think Jameis Winston is their
Speaker 1: their quarterback of the future if he's a quarterback. Looking
Speaker 1: at the roster, Jameis Winston makes more sense than Taysom
Speaker 1: He'd be like saying, we're gonna put Jameis Winston at
Speaker 1: tight end. Well, he's a big guy. He could probably
Speaker 1: catch like a page. He should have just stuck with
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman and had him at quarterback. Taysom was pretty
Speaker 1: competitive in college, but he was a He was a
Speaker 1: half back playing or a fullback playing quarterback. Jesse and
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Hi, Jess, what's on your mind today? Happy
Speaker 1: positively Friday gents. It's always great to hear from guys
Speaker 1: like the old Guard, guys like Mustard, you know, Van
Speaker 1: Michaels and Bob Mucker, people like them in sports their
Speaker 1: national treasures. So thank you for that. But that's not
Speaker 1: on Roger's projection. Forty eight tds to four interceptions. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously you don't expect that to hold, but if it did,
Speaker 1: that's insane. And I have one more thing for you guys,
Speaker 1: polite Friday in mind, there's no question you guys are
Speaker 1: the best sports talk show on the air. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys got Elmer Fudd doing mock horse racing names
Speaker 1: and it's incredible content whether it's good or bad. And
Speaker 1: Todd with one D you did well today, my man.
Speaker 1: You guys are the best, hands down. Thank you, Thank you, Jesse.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Yeah, Todd looks like Elmer Fudd with
Speaker 1: his outfit today. I did get the look. She didn't
Speaker 1: just give me a look when the wife actually said,
Speaker 1: what's what the Elmer Fudd get up? And uh, I
Speaker 1: just rolled with it. Now you're you're all in. You're
Speaker 1: all in with my best pro shops Cabella hand. I
Speaker 1: went a little too crazy made with the red and
Speaker 1: black flannel scheme to look like an old Bugs Bunny character.
Speaker 1: But I feel good on Friday with that. If you
Speaker 1: had the hat with the flaps on it, the ear flaps,
Speaker 1: you know, the winter hat, I could see that, you know,
Speaker 1: And you had your gun, I could see you out
Speaker 1: there a little musket looking around. Uh Perry and Alabama.
Speaker 1: Hey Perry, first time callar six foot two sixty five.
Speaker 1: I wanted your opinion on something. All right? All right,
Speaker 1: j mccarein is sitting on the bench in Houston, and
Speaker 1: his go to receiver Alabama was Amoy Cooper, who's going
Speaker 1: to be the second all time touchdown career leader after
Speaker 1: the LSU game. Now you got three backup quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: Dallas that really don't amount to anything. Why don't Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones go get mccair and at least try to save
Speaker 1: the season. What else? How bad could it possibly get? Well?
Speaker 1: Thanks for the phone, called Perry. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he would cost you, and I don't know how much
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones wants to salvage this season. You don't have
Speaker 1: a fan base showing up your normal fan base. You
Speaker 1: don't have to play kate to them. But I I
Speaker 1: don't know how much they want to win right now.
Speaker 1: Because even if you if you feel like you could
Speaker 1: get healthy by the end of the year and you
Speaker 1: win the division, host a playoff game, and you could
Speaker 1: actually win that playoff game, then I could understand where
Speaker 1: you're gonna go all out and maybe bring in another quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Andy Dalton will come back from this concussion.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you look at AJ McCarron just
Speaker 1: because he played, you know, college ball with Mariy Cooper,
Speaker 1: what's he gonna bring out the best in Marie Cooper?
Speaker 1: And I don't know is Aj McCarron he didn't start
Speaker 1: over Andy Dalton in Cincinnati. Yeah. You know one guy
Speaker 1: that they probably could have with Josh McCown who was
Speaker 1: on the Eagles practice squad and just signed with the Texans,
Speaker 1: And I think I know he's in Texas. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a name they might look at forty one
Speaker 1: or so. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know how invested
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is in this season now because it's super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's not just winning the division. This was about winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Jerry. He spent all the money.
Speaker 1: We dealt with Dak's contract on and off for eighteen months.
Speaker 1: It felt like, Okay, I got Dak at least under
Speaker 1: contract for one year. We're all in, I'm in a
Speaker 1: bad division. We're going to breeze through this, and you
Speaker 1: know we're going to be the team to beat in
Speaker 1: the NFC, and then you have this. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he just says, you know what, let's just kind
Speaker 1: of go through the motions, get through the season, try
Speaker 1: not to lose too many more players to injury. But
Speaker 1: I don't know how motivated is at this age. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Take a break. Mike Florio on loan from
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk, will join us coming up here. What
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Speaker 1: with the popular Mike Florio and Chris Simms every morning
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, preceding our show, and Mike kind enough
Speaker 1: to join us. What did the Raiders do wrong and
Speaker 1: did it warrant that kind of punishment? Well, Dan, it
Speaker 1: all flows from the Trent Brown positive test that was
Speaker 1: followed by Trent Brown not wearing a contact tracing device,
Speaker 1: which is one of the key mechanisms for determining who
Speaker 1: was exposed to a player who eventually test positive. That
Speaker 1: was part of it, and it was an accumulation of
Speaker 1: the various things we've seen the Raiders punished. Fourth from
Speaker 1: John Gruden not wearing a mask that was three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars in total fines, and unauthorized person
Speaker 1: in the locker room that was another fifty thousand dollars fine.
Speaker 1: The event where several players were present in a confined
Speaker 1: space with too many people and no masks in sight,
Speaker 1: players were fined for that. So this is that system
Speaker 1: of progressive discipline the NFL uses. When the first effort
Speaker 1: doesn't take, they hit you a little harder than next time,
Speaker 1: and they'll keep hitting you harder and harder. So this
Speaker 1: time six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in fines, a
Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick goes away, and if they don't
Speaker 1: straighten up, there will be more punishments and they will
Speaker 1: be more severe. And the draft pick usually is what
Speaker 1: gets a team's attention. They don't like giving up those
Speaker 1: unscratched lottery tickets that can become anything. They don't want
Speaker 1: to have those stripped away from them. I don't know
Speaker 1: if his comments matched the headline, and it was fair
Speaker 1: to Davante Adams. He was asked basically, are you know
Speaker 1: are you the best wide receiver in football? And he
Speaker 1: said yes, and then he explained why he thought he was.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with it. It's like we criticize
Speaker 1: the athlete when he doesn't say anything, and when he
Speaker 1: does say we criticize him for saying something. Davante Adams,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he the best receiver? If I Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the question we had earlier, Mike, you can have
Speaker 1: any receiver, any receiver for the next four years. The
Speaker 1: cost is the same. Who would you take? Dk Metcalf?
Speaker 1: Without question? Dk Metcalf, That's who won the poll. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: without question. But I don't have a problem with Davantae
Speaker 1: Adams saying he thinks he's the best receiver because you
Speaker 1: need to believe that in order to put that uniform on,
Speaker 1: in order to cross that thick white stripe and go
Speaker 1: onto the field and accept the various physical risks that
Speaker 1: you're taking every time you play, and to play at
Speaker 1: the highest possible level, you need to have confidence that
Speaker 1: borders on delusion and sometimes crosses over into delusion. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there are plenty of receivers not as good as
Speaker 1: Davantae Adams or DK Metcalf that would say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I'm the best. You have to think you're the best,
Speaker 1: and I think one of the key ingredients and for
Speaker 1: the best receivers that we see now is not being
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick, because not being a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick lights a fire under these guys. Davante
Speaker 1: Adams was a second round pick. Michael Thomas, who was
Speaker 1: motivated and like anyone else at the position, second round
Speaker 1: draft pick saw receivers that he looks at and says,
Speaker 1: I'm better than them go before him. He came at
Speaker 1: Calf said yesterday it was a blessing in disguise that
Speaker 1: he wasn't a first round pick because it caused him
Speaker 1: to not take for granted the opportunity in Seattle, bust
Speaker 1: his ass and be who he is now. Should that
Speaker 1: game have been played last night, Well it depends on
Speaker 1: which team you ask. Well, the Packers getting Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: back certainly helped, but right I just it felt it
Speaker 1: was a bad look for the NFL. In my opinion.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. When the NFL has an opportunity to
Speaker 1: move forward with a game, it is going to move
Speaker 1: forward with the game. Because if you bump this game
Speaker 1: to Sunday, Monday or Tuesday in order to allow the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers to get back Trent Williams, who was
Speaker 1: removed from the game because he possibly was in sufficiently
Speaker 1: close contact with Kendrick Bourne to end up getting COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen or Brandon I, first round draft pick receiver who's
Speaker 1: done a great job for them. If you get those
Speaker 1: guys back, okay, fine, But the problem is between now
Speaker 1: and Sunday or Monday or Tuesday, the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: could find out that there are other problems and they
Speaker 1: could get to a point, well, you can't play that game,
Speaker 1: then what do you do? Then that becomes the first
Speaker 1: game of the eighteenth week of the season that we
Speaker 1: believe is inevitable, but they want to resist it as
Speaker 1: long as they can. So we saw this for the
Speaker 1: first time Dan with the Buccaneers Raiders game. They went
Speaker 1: forward even though the Raiders had their starting offensive line
Speaker 1: unavailable until Saturday or Sunday morning, I think it was
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. They weren't prepared and they got blown out.
Speaker 1: But the NFL got to play the game. The NFL
Speaker 1: got to cash the check from the networks. I think
Speaker 1: that's a big factor in all of this. Even though
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to make it all about money.
Speaker 1: They want to get these games in because they want
Speaker 1: their money, and they got their money last night for
Speaker 1: having the Packers forty nine Ers game on Fox. And
Speaker 1: if you would delayed that game, there's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: you're going to get that game in. Is that how
Speaker 1: it works that NBC will write a check weekly to
Speaker 1: the NFL? No, No, I'm okay. I was thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm making it as simple as possible and
Speaker 1: as linear as possible, and it's probably not that way
Speaker 1: right if games are ultimately lost at a time when
Speaker 1: there are broader negotiations happening with all the networks. I
Speaker 1: don't know that there's a rebate per se that would
Speaker 1: go back to the networks. But you avoid that conversation
Speaker 1: entirely if you're the NFL, if you deliver all two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six games, which do they have a
Speaker 1: strong motivation to do? I mentioned this yesterday. There are
Speaker 1: two things I know that are true in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know that the City Chiefs are the best team
Speaker 1: right now, and I know that the Jets are the
Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL. I don't know much in between. Mike,
Speaker 1: do you have any definitives where you say absolutely positively.
Speaker 1: I know this. No, it's great, and anytime you try
Speaker 1: to do that, that's when you find out that you
Speaker 1: know nothing. And I will agree that the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: on paper the best team, But I don't know what
Speaker 1: would happen if you put the Chiefs on the same
Speaker 1: field as the Steelers right now, because the Stealers have
Speaker 1: something and Dan. I think it was born in last
Speaker 1: year's adversity and the way they dealt with not having
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and had to have a couple of what
Speaker 1: team did you grow up a fan of? No No.
Speaker 1: I grew up sixty miles from Pittsburgh, but I had
Speaker 1: to be different. I had to be a contrarian, so
Speaker 1: I didn't like the Steelers. I wish I had. It
Speaker 1: would have been great seventies for me for Super Bowl trophies.
Speaker 1: But I think that I've been around Pittsburgh my entire life.
Speaker 1: I know how this team works, and I think what
Speaker 1: they went through last year planted the seeds for this
Speaker 1: year because they have Ben back, and they fight and
Speaker 1: they scratch and they claw. I watched that Raven Steelers
Speaker 1: game back on Monday. I don't know how they hell
Speaker 1: the Steelers won. But you know what, throw out all
Speaker 1: the stats. Only one matters points scored points aloud, and
Speaker 1: they keep finding a way to do it. So I
Speaker 1: feel like if they played the Chiefs right now, they'd
Speaker 1: find a way to outscore the Chiefs, even if the
Speaker 1: Chiefs would be going up and down the field all
Speaker 1: day long with Patrick Mum. Maybe. Yeah. I came into
Speaker 1: this season I said the Steelers are the most fascinating
Speaker 1: team to me because I thought they had everything. They
Speaker 1: just needed Ben to be healthy. And Ben has stayed healthy,
Speaker 1: and here they are undefeated. You're a good friend. Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: In the last two and a half years, seventy five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: eight interceptions. Hey look, I have become a tremendous Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers fan. And I think part of it is hanging
Speaker 1: around Chris sim every day because he regards Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: as the greatest quarterback of all time over his own
Speaker 1: father Phil. And also I think that he was done
Speaker 1: wrong by the Packers earlier this year, which makes him
Speaker 1: more sympathetic. I don't think they should have drafted a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They should have gotten him help at receiver, and I
Speaker 1: think that makes these last years of his in Green Bay. However,
Speaker 1: many there will be more compelling and it makes me
Speaker 1: want to see him do well. And I think he
Speaker 1: has incredible physical gifts and he's done more with limited
Speaker 1: talent around him, and I think any quarterback has in
Speaker 1: recent memory. So yeah, I think he's tremendous. And last
Speaker 1: night it was great to see what they were able
Speaker 1: to do. Now it's hard to tell against the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers B team, but I like what the Packers
Speaker 1: have and I just wish he had more help around
Speaker 1: him because he'd have a better chance to add to
Speaker 1: his legacy. Yeah, and we look at these quarterbacks. You
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is probably going to end up with one
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Farv had one super Bowl. Rodgers may end
Speaker 1: up with just one super Bowl. What is that second
Speaker 1: super Bowl mean? Do you think the perception wise of
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Well, I don't know. Maybe we want to
Speaker 1: ask Jim Plunkett that because he's got two and he's
Speaker 1: never mentioned as a potential Hall of Famer, and he's
Speaker 1: got two super Bowl wins that he earned as the
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Raiders. But I think it does start
Speaker 1: to separate you from the pack of grats. You know,
Speaker 1: there's this echelon of quarterbacks, and Tom Brady has become
Speaker 1: I think once he got to five the guy that
Speaker 1: we would admit is the greatest of all time at
Speaker 1: the position. Once he gets to six, I think the
Speaker 1: debate ends. But then you start filling in under that
Speaker 1: and super bowls are part of it. Statistical achievement, longevity
Speaker 1: is part of it. There are different ways that you
Speaker 1: can look at it. Brady was the first one to
Speaker 1: unite championships, longevity and statistical achievement. But yeah, they look
Speaker 1: they all want as many as they can. Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: said before the season, Dan, he wants to win super Bowls.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want just one more, he wants two more
Speaker 1: or more than two more. I mean, that's the way
Speaker 1: these guys are wired. It's the Davante ad thing. They
Speaker 1: all want to be the best every time. They want
Speaker 1: to win every game. They want to win every championship,
Speaker 1: and it's got to torment them if they only have
Speaker 1: one when their otherwise great career ends. The Dolphins situation
Speaker 1: with twa Adam Schefter reported that they basically this a
Speaker 1: ten game trial for him because they have all these
Speaker 1: draft picks, including the Texans, and that they might be
Speaker 1: in the market for a quarterback, which, all right, it
Speaker 1: surprised me, but it was schefty reporting it. Brian Flores,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins coach, comes out and says, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not doing this, not that he would say, yes, they
Speaker 1: aren't doing this, but what do you what do you
Speaker 1: make of this situation with Tua tonga volo? Is he
Speaker 1: auditioning to keep this job next year? And Dan, look,
Speaker 1: I don't really think we need a report from anyone
Speaker 1: to lead us to the common sensical conclusion that when
Speaker 1: you are holding the Houston Texans first round draft pick
Speaker 1: and they currently are in the top five in a
Speaker 1: field that's going to have Trevor Lawrence and justin fields,
Speaker 1: you need to know what you have. You need to
Speaker 1: know what Tua is. And look, here's the reality. Tua
Speaker 1: tong Ofvloa was an ownership pick by the Dolphins this year.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a coaching staff GM. Who's the best guy,
Speaker 1: what's our best option? The owner wants a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Bengals said no, thank you. When the Dolphins tried
Speaker 1: to trade up. I still don't know what the Dolphins offered,
Speaker 1: but the Bengals said no, so Stephen Ross wants his
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. They picked Tua over Justin Herbert may have
Speaker 1: been a mistake based upon what we've seen from Herbert
Speaker 1: so far. The next ten games will tell us, but
Speaker 1: they have to know what Tua has. They have to
Speaker 1: see what Tua can do, because maybe there's going to
Speaker 1: be a josh Roseen Kyler Murray situation for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: next year. And you only know whether or not to
Speaker 1: pursue that potential franchise quarterback by looking at what you
Speaker 1: have and the guy that you think could be your
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And Dan Look, there's three types of teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Teams that have franchise quarterbacks, teams desperately
Speaker 1: looking for franchise quarterbacks, and teams that have a guy
Speaker 1: that they're not quite sure yet whether he is a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Dolphins are in category number three. They need
Speaker 1: to know whether they're in category one or category two
Speaker 1: before they're on the clock with the Texans pick. When
Speaker 1: April rolls around, I think it's a no brainer that
Speaker 1: this is what they're doing, because you want the guy
Speaker 1: that's going to be your guy for the next fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty years Andrew Siciliano tweeting Mike McCarthy still won't
Speaker 1: name a starting quarterback for Week nine for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If you ran the Cowboys right now, what would you
Speaker 1: do well? I would have signed Colin Kaepernick a long
Speaker 1: time ago to be the backup to Dak Prescott, frankly
Speaker 1: instead of Andy Dalton. So if Kaepernick were healthy, he'd
Speaker 1: be playing right now because Prescott's not available. But based
Speaker 1: on what I currently have, you just have to hope
Speaker 1: for the best because it's not like you could sign
Speaker 1: a guy bring him in right now because of the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen protocols. It's not like you could have an
Speaker 1: emergency option today and bring a guy in. You're stuck
Speaker 1: with Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush. You've decided Bend Nucci's
Speaker 1: not the answer, and you just hope for the best.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jerry Jones I heard the last segment
Speaker 1: talking about what the Cowboys are doing. Jerry Jones has
Speaker 1: a couple of words salad radio interviews every week on
Speaker 1: one O five three the Fan in Dallas, and it's
Speaker 1: a fascinating exercise in let's figure out what Jerry is
Speaker 1: actually saying and a lot of times you can't. But
Speaker 1: he talked about this concept of possibly tanking, and he
Speaker 1: danced around it. I mean, look, tanking never happens from
Speaker 1: the perspective of the player or the coach, although sometimes
Speaker 1: the coach is in on it if he's got job security.
Speaker 1: Tanking happens when you decide to see what your third
Speaker 1: string quarterback can do, what your backup defensive back can do,
Speaker 1: what your backup offensive lineman can do, and then it
Speaker 1: just kind of takes its course. And if you're the
Speaker 1: Cowboys right now, you know it's done, and you know
Speaker 1: you look, it's just done. If you're watching the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it's done. Yeah, they could still win the division. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: it's done for the Cowboys this year. Once you know
Speaker 1: what's done, you win by losing, You gain in the
Speaker 1: draft order by plummeting in the standings. And the NFL
Speaker 1: never talks about that because they don't want to legitimize it.
Speaker 1: But I think Jerry Jones is smart enough to know
Speaker 1: he's got one of these weird years where the team's
Speaker 1: going belly up. The last time they had a year
Speaker 1: like this, they got Ezekie Elliott. They may get somebody
Speaker 1: great this year, and wouldn't that be something If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in position to decide, do we take Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: do we take Justin Fields, or do we pay Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott thirty seven million dollars for one more year in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. If I said you could have Dak
Speaker 1: or Justin Fields, I'd take Dak because we don't know
Speaker 1: what Justin Fields is going to be. We just don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend thirty seven million dollars. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a different issue. You didn't tell me of what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay. Do I want right Do I want
Speaker 1: the Cowboys situation right now? Given the way they've managed
Speaker 1: it for the last two years and not paid Dac
Speaker 1: the moment that the window opened on a second contract.
Speaker 1: I don't want that situation because here's the thing. Thirty
Speaker 1: seven million is just the starting point. I can't tag
Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty two because he gets a forty
Speaker 1: four percent raise over thirty seven million. That's fifty four
Speaker 1: million in twenty twenty two, So I can't do that.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Justin Fields under that scenario. But you always
Speaker 1: take the proven guy over the unproven guy. If you
Speaker 1: have the cap space and the cash to pay. The
Speaker 1: proven guy. Always great to talk to you. We appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. Have a great weekend. Mike, all right, Daniel
Speaker 1: too power. That's Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, Pro Football
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Speaker 1: Uh let's see, let's go home for phone. I love
Speaker 1: when Seaton just here's enough of a comment where he
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Speaker 1: it doesn't work at one, we know I fell in Honolulu.
Speaker 1: That yeah, Ryan, and Hollolulu will always be there. Taken, Yes,
Speaker 1: he is, He's taken. He's taken with Todd apparently all right,
Speaker 1: phone calls. Let's close up shop here George in Ohio. Hey, George,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? Good morning? Hey, another
Speaker 1: shot out for Todd. WHOA okay he could. I'm a
Speaker 1: little late with this, but he I know, he gets
Speaker 1: to tease a lot about the mock headlines and trying
Speaker 1: to be funny and everything. But earlier in the week
Speaker 1: the Harry Carey story, I mean, oh man, I was
Speaker 1: just laughing so hard. I think it's the funniest thing
Speaker 1: he's ever done, except with a Chrissie Diggan. Oh man. Well,
Speaker 1: George's George has been around for a long time. Thank you, George. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when Fritzie would, when Chrissy Tegan would would visit the show,
Speaker 1: I'd lose Todd. I remember when you were lying on
Speaker 1: the couch and singing to her. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: good time. Not for her. By the way, here the
Speaker 1: Cowboys options this week. Garrett Gilbert hasn't completed a pass
Speaker 1: in the NFL in six hundred seventy nine days. Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush hasn't completed an NFL pass in one one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirteen days. I hope on Monday that's still not
Speaker 1: the case for at least one of them. I hope
Speaker 1: they complete a pass coming up this weekend against the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Esteban in California. Esteban has a bet with Fritzie. I
Speaker 1: think it's I find over nine and a half. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's Paulieu that the Raiders will end up with at
Speaker 1: least ten wins this year. Hey, Asketebon, how are you doing? Dan?
Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen. I was I was calling to uh
Speaker 1: just a couple of points. I wanted to know what
Speaker 1: Brent would think about my bet. That would be funny.
Speaker 1: We can call him up and find his thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would take it or not. Uh.
Speaker 1: Number two uh is I don't think we made any
Speaker 1: trades as a Raider fan because we knew we were
Speaker 1: gonna find all this money. We just had no money
Speaker 1: to make any trades. Um. And then and then lastly,
Speaker 1: is you know in a in a twenty twenty type
Speaker 1: of scenario, if the Raiders were to get their hands
Speaker 1: on Davante Adams and marry up David Carr or Derek
Speaker 1: Carr and DeVante Adams again from from college days, how
Speaker 1: good would the Raiders be this year. That would be
Speaker 1: that would be nice, thank you, asked Debon. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see that one coming. That all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, You're gonna get Davante Adams from the Packers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that seems unlikely. Kyle in California, Hi, Kyle,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me? Ay BP? I was
Speaker 1: just thinking maybe the Cowboys could grab Aaron Rodgers. Maybe
Speaker 1: a little Julio Jones in there too. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that that worked. According to Sabon's logic, it can happen anyway.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the Cowboys in like at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, they were a Super Bowl pick, and
Speaker 1: now it seems they're so freaking far away. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you thank for Trevor, I don't know what that
Speaker 1: stops giving out forty points a game. The old line sucks,
Speaker 1: they're injured. I mean, it went from a team that
Speaker 1: was so close to a team that seems so far
Speaker 1: away with a lot of holes unless we can get
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Thank you, Kyle, have a good weekend. I
Speaker 1: got a trade for you. I remember when we get
Speaker 1: those phone calls. I was thinking maybe and it was
Speaker 1: always how does this benefit the Yankees. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: we give up Louis Soho for Big Poppy, I'll hang
Speaker 1: up and listen. I'm like, no, no, we give up
Speaker 1: job at Chamberlain for Roger Clemens, I'll hang up and listen. Todd,
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Speaker 1: It does entertainment style. First time I heard that, I
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta and somebody said, you want to go
Speaker 1: shoe shopping? And I go, I don't have any money,
Speaker 1: because just bring singles. I go, what, yeah, shoe shopping
Speaker 1: going to a strip club? McLevin, what did you learn it?
Speaker 1: I also had no idea that that's what shoe shopping
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