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We were 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: blessed with just one game and it was a game 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: that was somewhat predictably a blowout as the Minnesota Timberwolves 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: got a game back on the Golden State Warriors. We 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: are now one one heading into the Bay. So we're 54 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: gonna spend just a few minutes on that game. Then 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna have our Player of the Week section with Microsoft. 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Then at the tail end of the show, Jackson and 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: n word textan earlier today and I got this crazy 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: hair brained idea for a trade. So we're just gonna 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: purely for fun, purely in fantasy land of the NBA, 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: We're going to discuss an idea of a trade involving 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics for this summer as a little teasers. 62 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: You guys owe the job before we get started. 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: Subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube channels you don't miss 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: any more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at 65 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: underscore JSNLT so you guys don't misshow announcements. Don't forget 66 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: about a podcast feed where you get your podcast on 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: O Hoops Tonight. It's also super helpful if you leave 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: a rating and a review on that front. 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But 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: we do usually go on playback after these live shows. 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: Make sure you guys head over to playback dot tv 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: slash Hoops tonight for our playback after show tomorrow night. 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: But again, no after show tonight. We'll get back into 80 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: that tomorrow. So let's talk some basketball and nice bounce back. 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: When for the Minnesota Timberwolves. I just thought from the 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: start they were much sharper staying attentive to Golden State's 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: ball and player movement. The dead giveaways they played him into. 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: So many of these, like late clock ISOs where you know, 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Jackson and I were joking earlier because Jimmy Butler just 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: seemed to he took a few of them early in 87 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: the game, but there were several examples where he was 88 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: kind of just passing out of those situations, and it 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: was you could tell Jimmy kind of was sensing the 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: moment that it was a game that might be out 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: of reach, and so it was almost like he was 92 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: kind of holding something in reserve. Stan Byan Gundy was 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: obviously a little bit critical of him about that, but 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: at the same time, you could feel it. You could 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: feel this game as being somewhat of a landslide for 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: Minnesota from the opening tip as they go up thirteen. Oh, 97 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: but the dead giveaway, so many of these light ISOs, 98 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: whether it's Moses Moody or it's Brandon Pajemski, or it's 99 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Buddy Healed, or whoever it might be, with three seconds 100 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: on the shot clock with an elite defender in their 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: face having to just throw something up. We had shot 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: clock violations, we had shots that didn't even come close 103 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: to the rim. The Timberwolves forced a bunch of turnovers 104 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: and kept getting out in transition off of them for 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: easy ones. It was just a much better defensive performance 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: from Minnesota. We'll talk a little bit more about that 107 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: in a minute, because that's going to be an interesting 108 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: trend going through the rest of the series. And then 109 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: on offense, Ant is still struggling a bit with just 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: figuring out how to attack this defense. First of all, 111 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: glad to see him come back in the second half. 112 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: The way he was limping, I was seriously concerned that 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: that might have been some kind of like severe high 114 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: ankle spraying with the way that Trace Jackson Davis landed 115 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: on top of him. But to have him come back 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: in the second half obviously a good sign. You don't 117 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: want to see anybody get hurt, especially in a way 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: that could have an impact in their ability to even 119 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: be available to their team. But he's been sped up 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: a little bit by Golden State's ball pressure, and he's 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: definitely going to have to get that a little more 122 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: under control as the series progresses into Golden State. It's 123 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: a very different kind of series than the Lakers series, 124 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: where he was given more space, there wasn't pressure, and 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: he could kind of like be comfortable as he was 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: processing the defense. The idea the old game plan with 127 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Golden State is if they can pressure Ant, he'll rush 128 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: into drives. And if he rushes into drives, he won't 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: process the floor quick enough to be able to make 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: the right reads when he gets downhill, and so it's 131 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: gonna be key for Ant to solve that problem over 132 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: the course of the series. But everyone else on Minnesota 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: took a good step forward tonight. A bunch of their 134 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: shooters started to get into rhythm. Nas Red Nazrie, Dante 135 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: de Vincenzo, Nikile, Alexander Walker, Mike Conley, and Anthony Edwards 136 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: all hit multiple threes in this game, which is obviously 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: a good sign, a good sign after the horrendous shooting 138 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: that they put forth in Game five against the Lakers. 139 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: In Game one of this series, we saw a little 140 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: bit of Jada McDaniels getting back to some of that 141 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: weak side scoring that he did in the first round. 142 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: Took a little bit of an audacious step back three 143 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: over Draymond Green in the left corner that I thought 144 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: was kind of funny. 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: But other than that, a. 146 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Bunch of these like good, you know, closeout attacks where 147 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: he's euroing through a help defender, spinning off of a 148 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: guy who's closing out on him, and just hitting those 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: little short floaters and jump shots that are shots that 150 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: we know that he can hit. And then I thought 151 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: Julius just had a really nice bounce back game. I 152 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: thought he was really bad in Game one and really 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: started to get his feel out of the post, just 154 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: taking simple kickout reads that are there as Golden State 155 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: was pinching down on him, doing some scoring in the 156 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: middle of the floor. Just a nice step forward for 157 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: the Wolves offense, which is gonna be the problem, like 158 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: we as we move forward in this series, the job 159 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: is all mental for Minnesota. We're heading to Golden State, 160 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: and Minnesota fans, if you haven't had a chance to 161 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: watch much of Golden State this year, they just have 162 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: this level they can get to at home, even without 163 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 2: step on the defensive end of the floor and getting 164 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: out in transition and feeding off of the energy of 165 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: that crowd. They're gonna be a tough out in the 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: same way that I kind of kind of like felt 167 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: like tonight was going to be a blowout. I think 168 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: both Game three and Game four are going to be 169 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: dog fights, and those the job from Minnesota on both 170 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: ends of the floor is going to be simple. On 171 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: the offensive end of the floor, like we talked about, 172 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards not getting rushed, but him and Julius together 173 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: having to process that defense when it's more engaged, when 174 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: it's flying around, feeding off the energy of that crowd, 175 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: not turning the ball over, not settling for bad threes. 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: Ants had an issue knifing through the defense and taking 177 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: high degree of difficulty layups in traffic that he's missing 178 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: at a high clip. But the mental processing piece is 179 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: going to be key for them on offense as they 180 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: go on the road and then on the defensive end again, 181 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: like we talked about, it was a good step forward 182 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: for them tonight, but that's same attentiveness to all the 183 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: ball in player movement. This is a team that if 184 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: you can play them into those lake clock ISOs, cause 185 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: again it's not like Golden States planning to take a 186 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: lake clock ISO. They're running their motion offense to try 187 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: to get you to make a mistake and if you 188 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: make a mistake leaving a cutter open or a shooter open, 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: they're going to take that opportunity, right, But if you 190 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: can take away those opportunities in the motion, all of 191 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like Jimmy Butler's really the only guy 192 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: other than maybe Jonathan Kmingo when he's in rhythm, which 193 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: we'll talk about. He did seem to build a little 194 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: bit of rhythm tonight, But Jimmy Butler's really the only 195 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: player that can create his own shot against an elite 196 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: defender in that sort of situation, and at this phase 197 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: in his career, he's not as good at it as 198 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: he used to be. Right, So, like, if you can 199 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: be attentive and shut down the motion, you can play 200 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: them into late clock. ISO's you got a great chance 201 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: to win Game three in Game four on the road, 202 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: But if you lose sight of that and you let 203 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: Golden State feed on the energy of their crowd and 204 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: a couple role players get confident, they will hit open shots. 205 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: As you guys know, I mean, that's what happened in 206 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: game one after Steph went down. Every time Minnesota made 207 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: a mistake, they knocked the shot down and it just 208 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: wasn't anything that they were able to regain control of. 209 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: You got to play these guys into those misses, and 210 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: so it's they have the physical tools necessary to do 211 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: the job, but they've got to have the mental focus 212 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: and discipline, attention to detail to get it done on 213 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: the road. And I do think they need to win 214 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: both of those games. I think if they end up 215 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: in a scenario where Golden State takes this thing to 216 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: two back to Minnesota in Game five, even if you win, 217 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: I think Steph Curry's going to come back in that 218 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: game on the eighteenth, And as we saw in Game one, 219 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: I think this is a tough matchup for Minnesota when 220 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Steph is healthy. Now whether or not he'll be healthy 221 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: enough to even be a factor remains to be seen, 222 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: but I think Minnesota needs to be going to the 223 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: Bay with the goal of trying to win both of 224 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: those games. Now on the Golden State front, we talked 225 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: about this last night in playback. We talked about it 226 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: two nights ago after Game one, but we viewed this 227 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: game too as basically a game that Minnesota was going 228 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: to win and was going to win by a lot. 229 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 2: It's just the combination of a bunch of factors. We 230 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: talked about this last night with Oklahoma City versus Denver. 231 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: On the one hand, your road team is a veteran 232 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: team that already stole home court advantage, So there's such 233 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: a natural pullback in terms of effort, focus, and energy 234 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: because you know you're going home with home court advantage. 235 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: We just saw that with Denver last night with Oka See. Also, 236 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: just like Oka See, Minnesota is a damn good basketball team, 237 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: a damn good basketball team led by really good players, 238 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: so like they got the talent to have a bounce 239 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: back the game. It's also an absolute must win. Unlike 240 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: the Boston series, Boston is arguably more comfortable on the 241 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: road than they are at home. Unlike the Boston series, 242 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Minnesota could not afford to go down Oh too. It 243 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: was like an absolute must win type of game for 244 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: a great team against a veteran team that had already 245 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: taken home court. There was a natural pullback that was 246 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: gonna happen. And so one of the things we talked 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: a lot about over the course of the last two 248 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: days was how can the Warriors get some sort of 249 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: positive progress out of this type of game that's going 250 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: to be so difficult to win, and the key was 251 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: a couple things we talked about giving Jonathan kaminga long leash. 252 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: Now we discussed it more within the context of him 253 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: being in the starting lineup. Wasn't in the starting lineup tonight, 254 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: but he did get twenty six minutes and got plenty 255 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: of opportunity to create his own offense, and he scored 256 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: eighteen points on eleven shots. We'll zoom in on that 257 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: in just a minute. But the second piece of it 258 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: was digging way deep in the rotation and giving a 259 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: ton of guys opportunity. Right, Steve Kerr ends up playing 260 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: let me count. 261 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: This is. 262 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen different players tonight. So Steve 263 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: Kerk gave everyone a chance just to see, Like, Steve's 264 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: got to rebuild a basketball team on the fly here, right, 265 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: Like what works with Steph is different than what's going 266 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: to work without Steph. And so Steve Kerr, in a 267 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: lot of ways, has to come up with a completely 268 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: different way to win basketball games from scratch here on 269 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: the fly. And so he used Game two as an 270 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: opportunity to test a lot of things out. A simple 271 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: thing after the thirteen to zero run Quentin Post gets 272 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: the hook goes to Tray Jackson Davis. Tray Jackson Davis 273 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: was impactful in this game. His athleticism pop fifteen points 274 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: and six rebounds was really providing some of that rim 275 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: pressure at a ball screen action, just rolling hard to 276 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: the rim and getting vertical. As much as Quinton Posts 277 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: is a very good player, we've joked on the show, 278 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: he can't jump over a a phone book. He's not 279 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: exactly the most athletic dude in the world, Tray Jackson 280 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 2: Davis brings some of that vertical pop. I thought that 281 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: that was a kind of like a useful little bit 282 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: of information that came out of this game. And then 283 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: the second piece of it was Jonathan Kaminga had a 284 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: little bit of success in face up situations and ISOs 285 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: got comfortable as a catch and shoot player. Hitting another 286 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: corner three. The one he missed in the fourth quarter 287 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: two I thought was pretty close. He looked like he 288 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: was in good rhythm there. Diggy hit his first eight 289 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: shots in this game. He just started to build some 290 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: of that rhythm. Why that matters is because in those 291 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: games in Golden State, I think in order to win 292 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: one of them or let's put it this way, you 293 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: give yourself a good chance to win one of them 294 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: if in one of those two games, Jonathan Kaminga had 295 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: as a twenty twenty two point night, and I think 296 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: that he was in such a funk coming into this 297 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: that tonight was the perfect opportunity to just give him 298 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: a long leash and just see what he can put 299 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: together in terms of rhythm building towards Game three and 300 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: Game four. Again, like I said, with Minnesota on the 301 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: Golden State front, the goal needs to be like obviously 302 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: the goals to win both games, but if you can 303 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: get one game in Golden State and you can send 304 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: it back to Minnesota too too, you guarantee that you're 305 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: playing on the eighteenth, And if you're playing on the eighteenth, 306 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: I think there's a decent chance that Steph Curry comes 307 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: back and plays and gives you a chance to win 308 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: the series. If you win both, obviously you're in fantastic position. 309 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: But if you can win one of those games, you 310 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: give Steph Curry the chance to return in twelve days. 311 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to course correction brought to you by Microsoft. 312 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: Just like star players and teams navigating performance hurtles, business 313 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: decision makers today are under immense pressure to get things right. 314 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: They must rise to the occasion, turning challenges into opportunities. 315 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Microsoft empowers these visionaries with AI solutions, simple fight cloud 316 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: and data management and trustworthy responsible AI. And when you're 317 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: in the NBA, you have your own hurdles to face. 318 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: In this segment, we will highlight the player every week 319 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: that has risen to the occasion when his team needed him. 320 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise 321 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: to say, bring it on. This week's Player of the 322 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Week is Nikola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets. On Monday night, 323 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: we saw the best playoff performance that I've seen since 324 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: Steph Curry scored forty three points on the Boston Celtics 325 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty two Finals in Game one against 326 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: the Thunder, just two nights after he led his team 327 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: to a victory in Game seven against the Clippers on 328 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: the road against one of the best statistical performing defenses 329 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: in the history of the NBA, against the team that 330 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: had already won seventy two games in this season sixty 331 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: eight in the regular season, in the four to zh 332 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: sweep in the first round, he goes for forty two points, 333 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: twenty two rebounds, six assists, a steal in two bl 334 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, he walked the thunder down, just 335 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 2: dominating in the middle of the flour. He had eighteen 336 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: points just in that fourth quarter, keeping the Nuggets in 337 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: striking distance so that they could have a chance to 338 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: win the game. 339 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: Late. 340 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: Hit several big shots late, a hook shot over Alex Crusoe, 341 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: a driving foul that got to the line, a huge 342 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: three that cut the lead to one over Isaiah Hartenstein 343 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: using like kind of a jab step sequence, ultimately ending 344 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: the game with an Aaron Gordon game winning three in 345 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: transition off the left wing to steal game one and 346 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: get home court advantage for the Denver Nuggets. One of 347 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: my favorite things about basketball is the ability of a 348 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: star player to transcend surrounding circumstances. Yes, it's a team sport. 349 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: Basketball is beautiful when it's flowing, but in the most 350 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: intense moments, defenses, especially defenses as good as Okasee, can 351 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: reach a level where that flow is basically impossible, and 352 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: you need a singular force of nature who can transcend 353 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: that environment because he has a superpower. These are the 354 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: moments when you see a superstar, dig deep and reach 355 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: that special level that lead to some of my favorite 356 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 2: moments in NBA history. So shout out to NICOLEA. Jokis 357 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: for giving us another one of those. They're rare and 358 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: I always really appreciate them when they come around. That's 359 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: it for this week's course correction. Remember Microsoft's AI solutions 360 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: empower you to take bold steps and make informed decisions, 361 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: sparking new ideas to help drive your business forward. Microsoft 362 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: is your trusted partner. You can navigate your journey with confidence, 363 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: finding innovation, innovative solutions, and reaching new possibilities. Visit Microsoft 364 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: dot com slash challengers to learn more. All right, so 365 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: here's the deal. I'm gonna bring Jackson on stage because 366 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: he's our resident Celtics fan as well in addition to 367 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: being very important to the process of this show. But 368 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Jackson and I were texting earlier today and I want 369 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: to This is a disclaimer upfront. Okay, this trade's not 370 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: going to happen. It's unlikely for a variety of reasons, 371 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: but I want to talk about it because it's fun. 372 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: We have some time, and after a boring game like that, 373 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: it's nice to have a little just to get into 374 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: fantasy land a little bit. 375 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: So here's the deal. 376 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: I pitched the idea to Jackson today. If your GM 377 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: of the Celtics, or excuse me, if you're a GM 378 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: of the Bucks. Actually no, we'll call it the Celtics. 379 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: Your GM of the Celtics. Bucks call you and they 380 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: offer Giannis for Jason Tatum. Do you say yes or no? 381 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: Now before I want to make the case. I'm going 382 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: to make the case again. Disclaimer, this is just for 383 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: fun and primarily meant as a thought exercise. Okay, here's 384 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: the case. It's being widely reported that the Celtics are 385 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: going to start finding ways to cut payroll as soon 386 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: as this summer. In this theoretical scenario, the Celtics have 387 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: just again this is important context here this. I'm only 388 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: pitching this in the event that the Celtics lose to 389 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: the Knicks. So they lose to the Knicks. The reason 390 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: why in this hypothetical scenario, Okay, so the Celtics have 391 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: just lost the series as a minus eight hundred favorite, 392 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: literally because their stars shit the bet. So the premise 393 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: would be that the Celtics roster would lose a decent 394 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: amount of talent as part of the cost cutting, and 395 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: they would suddenly drop to a second tier contender because 396 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: their stars aren't good enough to lift that roster, so 397 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: they wouldn't be really good enough to compete anymore. Another 398 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: way to reframe the situation is, this is a very 399 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: short window of contention for the Celtics. Maybe next year, 400 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: maybe the following year. Giannis is a much better basketball 401 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: player than Jason Tatum and has developed into an excellent 402 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: passer this phase in his career. You'd be surrounding him 403 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: with a roster that fits his skill set super well. 404 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: He's the kind of player who could capitalize on that 405 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: short window to get you a second championship. Presumably he 406 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: could still win even if they lost two of their 407 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: core five. So let's say they lose Drew Holliday and 408 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: krisops Porzingis. Those are the two guys that they look 409 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: to shed salary. You still have Giannis, Derek White, Jalen Brown, 410 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: Horford probably comes back on a minimum. You have Hawser Pritchard, 411 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Luke Cornett. You still have like a solid rotation around him. 412 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: Then in two years, when Jannis is thirty two years old, 413 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: if he loses the juice and the roster isn't good enough, 414 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: you can still flip you honest to another team to 415 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: restock your asset trope. Case for Milwaukee really simple. Tatum 416 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: has literally four years and an option after this season, 417 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: and he just turned twenty seven. You can rebuild around him, 418 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: and you probably could get a couple draft picks out 419 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: of Boston in the deal that you can flip to 420 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: help improve your role player talent. So essentially, for Milwaukee, 421 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: it's a bet on Tatum's future, and for Boston it's 422 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: a bet on this current roster just needing better play 423 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: from the star. So Jackson, in this hypothetical scenario, you're 424 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: the GM of the Celtics, they offer Giannis for Tatum, 425 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: what are you saying? 426 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: It's a really galaxy brain idea. And I am trying 427 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: to not forget about the connection to the city element 428 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: after we just saw what Niko Harrison did shipping off 429 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: Luka Doncic. However, I do think in this hypothetically, it 430 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: would be a little bit different because of how sour 431 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: it would feel to lose to the Knicks in this fashion. 432 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 5: Right coming off for the Mavericks. 433 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you lost in the finals, but you got to 434 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: the finals with Luka Doncich. It felt specifically kind of 435 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: buziz you're and they were under if you're losing in 436 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: four or five games to the Knicks in the series, 437 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 4: that you were heavy, heavy, heavy favorites. People are I 438 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: saw someone say on Twitter today, is this would be 439 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: the kind of thing that results in people getting fired 440 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: or people getting traded, right, And that's and I think 441 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 4: that's totally a valid take. What are people expecting Jason 442 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: Tatum to be traded? 443 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 5: I don't think so. But if someone was like, we need. 444 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: To fire Joe Mizzoula after this, I would not agree, 445 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: but I would be I would understand the thought behind it, right, 446 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 4: So I I do think if you lose this series, 447 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: especially if it's in four or five games. I don't 448 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: think it's before, but if it's in five games, it 449 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: makes sense to make a little bit of a shakeup. 450 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: It's hard to run that back after this way the 451 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: series has looked, at least through two games, trading Tatum 452 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: for Yannis though, that is a crazy idea, and I 453 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: don't I don't hate it. Of all the if you're 454 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: gonna offload one of your two stars, I don't want 455 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: to in the if they're gonna shake things up this summer, 456 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: which they're probably going to payroll. We're if they lose 457 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: to the Knicks in a weird way, you're probably making 458 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 4: some sort of significant trade. If if you're saying you're 459 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: gonna trade one of a major shakeup, if you're expecting 460 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: a major, major shakeup for the Celtics, like getting Giannis 461 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: is the best case scenario for a major shakeup. So 462 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 4: in that sense, I don't hate it, and I think 463 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 4: you're actually absolutely right that it's even with the departure 464 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: of whoever drew Howaday, Kristaps won or both of those 465 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 4: guys for salary purposes, it's still a close to perfectly 466 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: designed roster for around Yanni's much better than I would 467 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: even argue the championship level the Championshi Bucks roster, Like 468 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: he's never played with the player as good as Joan Brown. 469 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 4: He's never played with the player even as close as 470 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: good as Joe Brown, frankly. 471 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: Or defenders that could shoot as well as the defenders 472 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: can shoot right. 473 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: Exactly, And you're really surrounding him with. 474 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: A lot of shooting talent, a lot of versatility if 475 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 4: you if you plug him into this roster. 476 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 5: So it's not the I don't hate it, it would 477 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 5: it would be the kind of it would. 478 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: Be one of the few trades that could top the 479 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: shock waves created by the Luca Doctors trade, you know 480 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like it's one. It would be one 481 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: of the craziest trades. It would be up there with 482 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: the the kd summer and the Kawhi summer. 483 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: Is maybe even bigger than both of those. Man, maybe 484 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: not bigger than Katie, but I think it's probably bigger 485 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: than Kawhi of the Clippers summer. 486 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 4: If you're ranking you know, early July moves, as there 487 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: have been many, as there's been some some bombs over 488 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: the course of the last you know, ten years, it's it's. 489 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: Kind of breaking my brain a little bit. 490 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: But of all the the ultimate ultimately my answer is 491 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 4: if of all all the major shakeups that would you know, 492 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 4: be pitched and be potentially required in a in a 493 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: summer after you lose an ugly ugly, Ugly ugly series 494 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: where Jayson Tatum is not good, it would be probably 495 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 4: the best case scenario. 496 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you mentioned the the just the mood 497 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: that would be surrounding the team, because that's the important 498 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: part of this, like Tatum would in this hypothetical scenario 499 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: at age twenty six and age twenty seven, which is 500 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: typically the age where stars figure it out, would have 501 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: a playoff run where he was very important in them 502 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: winning the title, but two playoff runs where he operated well. 503 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: Below that of a top tier superstar. 504 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: And essentially, like when you have a payroll like what 505 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: they had, it's almost like championship or bust in a 506 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: lot of ways. And I almost look at it like 507 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: the there's like a certain amount of urgency to capitalize 508 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: on this window because like, let's take a look at 509 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: like what the scenario would look like if Tatum did 510 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: not get traded. So Tatum doesn't get traded, you you 511 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: drop a couple of bodies. Let's call it porzingis, And like, 512 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: let's call it porzingis in Holiday, just as an example, 513 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: even if they just get rid of porzingis, okay, they 514 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: just get rid of porzingis. Horford's a year older, Drew 515 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: Hollidays a year older, Derek White's a year older. Are 516 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: though Derek White, Tatum, and Brown are still firmly in 517 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: their prime. So in this scenario, like you are a 518 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: less talented version of this year's team that just got 519 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: eliminated in the second round in embarrassing fashion. So in 520 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: that scenario, like you look forward and it's like, actually, 521 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: they're completely hamstrung other than draft picks. They have draft picks, 522 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: but they don't have any like free agent flexibility at all. 523 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: You're in this situation where you have to ask yourself, 524 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 2: like Cleveland is going to get better as Evan Mobley 525 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 2: gets better, and as Darius Garland gets better, and as 526 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: Jared Allen gets better. You look at the East and 527 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: it's like all the sudd the Pistons are looking a 528 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: little bit frisky as a team that could be a 529 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: problem in the East. The Pacers right now are playing 530 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: at extremely high level. You have the thunder who are 531 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: going to keep getting better. You have Wemby and Darren 532 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Fox and who knows what else they're going to do 533 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: this summer. Houston could make a trade for Kevin Durant. 534 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: Like the teams around you would be getting better while 535 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: your team would be getting worse and we would have 536 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: just seen them not be good enough. And so then 537 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: you ask yourself, like, Okay, now Tatum's twenty eight to 538 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: twenty nine years old, are you even close to good 539 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: enough to win the title with your roster that you had. 540 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: And that's where I think it gets fascinating. Essentially, what 541 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: you're saying is like this roster is destined to some 542 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: form of blow up anyway like Tatum as like like 543 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: in this hypothetical where he's, you know, had these two 544 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: kind of somewhat disappointing playoff runs, he. 545 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: Would literally be. 546 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: A player that you would look at as not like 547 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: you would need to surround him with an enormous amount 548 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: of talent for him to win, right. And so with 549 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: that being the case, Giannis is the type of superstar 550 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: talent that can lift up a roster that's just another 551 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: great roster and make it into a championship worthy roster. 552 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: And so I think it just kind of like makes 553 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: some sense on that level. But again, I think I 554 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: think the part, the part you mentioned about the human 555 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: element is real, Like I just don't think Boston would 556 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: do that to Tatum. But yeah, if he throws a 557 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: couple of stinkers down. 558 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: There, yeah, I mean, it could get real. 559 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 4: The Discords is gonna get real ugly if they if 560 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: he has a even if they lose in if they 561 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: lose in five and he starts playing better, It's like, Okay, get. 562 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: In the lab, you know, come back, come back better 563 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 5: next summer. 564 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: That's but if if he has well, if he doesn't 565 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 4: have a great game the rest of the series, or 566 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: even if he just has three mediocre games and they 567 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: and they lose in five, if the discourse is gonna 568 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: get quite ugly. 569 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 5: The discords is getting quite ugly. 570 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: I I was briefly checking out the I was like, okay, 571 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: maybe there's a way to include Kristaps in a deal. 572 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: So you're shedding some salary in the same trade. What 573 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 4: can we you want obviously want to give up more 574 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: salary and you're getting back, but is there anyone useful 575 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: on the bucks you can get back? And guess what 576 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: the answer is, No, that roster sucks. Their roster sucks. 577 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: Most of their roster's on one year deals. It's like 578 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, aj Green's okay, Okay, he's two 579 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: million dollars, Like maybe that's Aj Green to make a 580 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: great making great Like I don't really want Kyle Kuzma 581 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: brooks on on the last year of his deal. Bobby 582 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 4: portois Uh, I think he actually know he could be traded, 583 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 4: but like somebody portis is okay, I suppose you could 584 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: take back Bobby. 585 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 5: Ports, but it's pretty bleak in terms. 586 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: Of the buck situation, which we knew that obviously, that's 587 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 4: why they're going to blow it up this summer, but 588 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 4: it's I don't. 589 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: Know, well in a poor zingistrait too. In a theoretical 590 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: cost cutting move, they would look to move him to 591 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: a team with cap space so they didn't have to 592 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: take salary back and uh so like but that's that's 593 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: my point though, is like, if Boston's gonna be in 594 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: a substantial cost cutting like position, you have to have 595 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: a serious conversation with yourself about whether or not Tatum 596 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: is going to be good enough. 597 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's fair. 598 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: I think the counter for and the rationalization for me 599 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: as a Celtic span and the counter for most Healthics 600 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: fans is the point you're making about the age of 601 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: the two superstars. They are entering TAM's gonna be twenty 602 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: seven next year, Jalenn Brown's gonna be twenty eight next year. 603 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: They are entering. 604 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: The theoretical, theoretically the best part of their basketball career, 605 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: and like not, and they're not. 606 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: Thirty or thirty one. Like they got. 607 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 4: Theoretically, you're entering a four to five year prime window, 608 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: as these stars seem to be keeping up that highly 609 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 4: elite level at like thirty two thirty three these days, 610 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 4: So you're entering a four to five year elite elite 611 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: window where you got. Where the hope would be those 612 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: guys continue to get better, even if it's marginally better. 613 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: You're not expecting a giant leap at this point in 614 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: need of their careers. But if they're gonna get a 615 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: little bit better each of them over the summer, you're 616 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: hoping that can make up for any of the the 617 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: talent drop you're getting that you're gonna have to make 618 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: reportedly in a cost cutting move this summer. 619 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: The thing that would scare me with that is, yes, 620 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: players do get better in that twenty seven to thirty 621 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: two range, but they tend to get better at the 622 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: expense of some athleticism. It's usually in that like twenty 623 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: five twenty six range that you're moving really well. I mean, 624 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: I already saw I saw video today of like young 625 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: Tatum like he was. 626 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: He's a lot less explosive than he used to be 627 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: even back then. 628 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: And is Tatum a good enough shot maker to do 629 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: this at a lower level of athleticism, and that arguably 630 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: has been the thing that he's never been able to 631 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: figure out. And so like there's it happens a lot 632 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: in Like I keep thinking about the comment that Matthew 633 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: had on playback a couple like three four nights ago, 634 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: where he just was like he basically was just saying 635 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: Tatum streaky, and like he's like he's, yeah, yeah, he 636 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: can be hot from three, but he can just as 637 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: easily be cold. And so that's where it gets triggy. 638 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: But I I and the point you're making is fair 639 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: in the sense that, like if you just bet on 640 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown progressing year over year, but is it 641 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: enough to make up for a substantial and loss and 642 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: roster talent. The last thing I'll say about it is 643 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: Joannis is thirty, Like you can easily get three great 644 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: years out of him and then pivot, you know. But uh, 645 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's a fascinating concept. And I, for the record, 646 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm still in the like gun to my head. If 647 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: you asked me who's gonna win the Celtics Knicks series, 648 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: I think I'd still I think I would too. 649 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: I think I would too. It's this. 650 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of ups and downs from this, 651 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: you know era of the Jason Tatum, Joon Brown playoff. 652 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: Era, and more often than not, someone said this. 653 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: On playback, maybe it was Mike uh that more often 654 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: than not, And it's true the regular season as well. 655 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: They are they play well when they're backs against the wall. 656 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: They respond when versus well. They do not respond to 657 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: success well. They when they're when it seems like there 658 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: might be a little bit overconfident, it crumbles quickly. But 659 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: they have yet to lose three times in a row 660 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 4: this season. They're gonna try to keep that streak alive. 661 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: Tomorrow Tomorrow, right, No, Saturday, actually Saturday, actually. 662 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, they gotta sit with that lost. 663 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: So I do think that the series, like I was saying, 664 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: if they lose in four or five, I think it's 665 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: gonna go at least six. If I if I was betting, 666 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: I would I would. 667 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: Say it's at least six. So in that sense, anything 668 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: can happen. 669 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, I would be shocked if they didn't 670 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: win one in New York, and then I would be 671 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: shocked if they didn't win Game five. But like, yeah, 672 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: if New York wins it feels like they're gonna win 673 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: in six, but yeah, I I it still feels very 674 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: open ended for me. It's just the hardest thing is 675 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: like they're right there. They're right there, even with the 676 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: twenty point leads. It's like, you get a stop on 677 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: Jylen Brunson, you win game one, you're a game two. 678 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: Game Game one literally goes to overtime. So like, yeah, 679 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: it's still it's still right there. I just have been 680 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: I've been just fascinated with the concept. I've been fascinated 681 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: with the concept because we haven't really seen anything like 682 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: this in NBA history, not in a very long time, 683 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: and so it's like I was trying to think, like 684 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: I think this would probably be the worst playoff loss, 685 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: like factoring in Superstar play, like since Lebron in twenty eleven. Probably, 686 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: But it's it's a different it's a little bit of 687 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: a different vibe because Lebron Lebron. No one was gonna 688 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: bail on Lebron, because that one series kind of stands 689 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: out as like a blip among like mostly playoff greatness, 690 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, but with Tatum, there are just so many 691 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: of these kinds of examples, and then to have two 692 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: in a row, right in the heart of his prime. 693 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: I think it would be it would be weird, but 694 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna see what happens, and it is. It was 695 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: just kind of a little fun thought exercise with a 696 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: relatively boring night around the NBA. That's all we have 697 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: for tonight, guys. No playback again tonight, but we'll be 698 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: back on playback tomorrow night. No film session tomorrow morning either, 699 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: so we're gonna take a little break. We will be 700 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: live tomorrow night after the final buzzer of Game three 701 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: thunder Nuggets. Very excited for that game. We'll see you guys. 702 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: Then. What's up guys. 703 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting 704 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: hoops tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us 705 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: if you guys would take a second and leave a 706 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: rating and a review. 707 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: As always, I appreciate you guys. 708 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Supporting us, but if you could take a minute to 709 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: do that, I'd really appreciate it. 710 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: The volume