WEBVTT - Upsetting Spaghetti 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.959 Welcome the Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.680 of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.200 and today on the show Upsetting Spaghetti. These are tubular 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.800 creatures that just don't feel right, but maybe they'll worm 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.319 your way into your heart. From a morbid fashionista to 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.640 an obg wormman, these worms are a bit odd, and 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.000 one of them is definitely metal. Discover this and more 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.760 as we answer the age old question why not live 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.040 your life in a bag? Joining me today is friend 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.720 of the show, writer for American Dad and the Soorin 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:50.120 part of Quick Question with Soorn and Daniel Soren. Booie, welcome, boo, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.800 boo boo. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.080 We hate him. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.560 We're booing sorn Or. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.360 We're booing I'm going Sorn. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:00:59.120 Yes. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.560 I like to imagine that the very worst of my 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.160 haters listen, and then I win them back. So right, 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.839 I psack myself up by booing myself to begin. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.360 That makes a lot of sense. I psych myself up 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.039 by booing you as well. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:17.200 It feels good, doesn't it. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.840 I just feel really good. I suggest everyone try it, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:26.600 Booing Soren, so Soren. Today we are talking about it's 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.360 not just worms. That's why I'm calling them spaghetti because 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.959 they're they're the animals that come in tube form. And 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.039 there's a lot of different types of tube anels. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.600 Terrible tubes, the terrible nightmare noodles. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.960 Nightmare noodles. That's a good one. That's a really good one. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:52.639 And this first story is one that you might have read, actually, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.920 because it's in the New York Times, which is like a. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.840 Little pretty much guarantee I didn't. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.400 You're more of a Wall Street Journal kind of guy. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:09.360 Then I like to say that I am. I do 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.480 tell people frequently when I find out new facts that 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.320 I read it somewhere, when what I really mean is 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.760 that I was scrolling through TikTok and. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.240 So yeah, yeah, well, this is a this is a 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.919 it's a newspaper, which is sort of a okay, both 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.080 a physical sometimes an online medium where there's like words 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:31.520 on a page and sometimes pictures. And this time they 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:36.120 had pictures of something pretty horrible looking called a bone 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.000 collector caterpillar, a bone collector. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.120 There's a movie called The Bone Collector. Yeah, there is. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:46.639 Let's see right. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:47.760 Now, bone collector. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.440 Let's see if I'm right about this. I think it's 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.000 a Denzel Washington movie. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.640 You're correct about that, and in it he is. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.520 It's tough to say. Maybe he's an undertaker who's secretly 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.560 really good at fighting. I don't know. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.640 Uh, well, no, it's close. But he's a forensics expert 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.440 whose bed bound after an accident left him paralyzed from 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.600 the neck down. So you know, close. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:18.080 And not doing the same job as No. Yeah, apparently 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.760 in Nightmare Noodles, close is cigar? 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.280 So close is cigar? That is? I've heard that expression 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:29.079 actually before. So the bone collector caterpillar was featured in 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.160 the New York Times because it's one of these animals 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.600 that does freak stuff that we all love, and there's 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.480 this one. Is It's interesting because there are actually a 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:46.920 lot of caterpillars like this that will craft a case 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.400 around themselves. It's a protective case. And we'll get into 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.760 what the bone collector does specifically. But first of me 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.040 just talk to you about bagworms for a bit. Can 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.760 I talk to you about bagworms. I've been dying to 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.960 talk to you about bagworms. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.400 I'd love to hear about bagworms. First. I'm going to 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.000 put a little pin in my bone collectors and i 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:03.320 want to hear. 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.200 We will get back. We'll get back to the bone 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:11.520 collector after this brief announcement from bagworms. So, there are 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.760 quite a few species of moths who when they are 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:20.440 in their larval juvenile form, they build elaborate cases around 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.240 themselves using some of their sticky silk, sometimes poop as 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.520 like an adhesive and then you know the old poop 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.880 adhesive trick, and then silk, and they will make it 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.479 out of basically whatever is most common in their environment. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.680 It can be sticks, it can be sand like in 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.360 whatever they have available to them, and they craft these 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.839 very elaborate cases like this, almost like a house, around 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:53.080 themselves to protect them. And they're really interesting because the 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.400 males do what you would think are typical of moths. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.520 They pupate inside of these cases and they burst out 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.680 and their little moths and they go around. But the 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.479 females don't bother with any of that. They stay in 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:13.600 the case that they make for life, don't bother pewpating 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.279 going out exploring the world. They just stay in their bag, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.560 and the males come and find them and mate with them, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.880 and the females lay their eggs in the bag and 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.680 then they're like well, I've done pretty much everything I've 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.000 set out to do in life, and they die, and 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.800 so they spend their entire life in this bag that 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.320 they create. Yeah, just chilling, and while the males are 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.520 kind of going around doing all the active moth stuff. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.640 I can't do that, I guess. I mean, I've definitely 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.440 been on trips before, I've been in a sleeping bag 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.480 and in the morning night they're like, we got to 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.159 get up, and I'm like, you know what what I 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.679 just what if I lived here forever? 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.320 Yeah? What if I lived here, laid some eggs and 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.200 then died. Yeah. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.960 People just came to me and like, right, I got 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.479 all the stuff done in the world that I need 0:05:58.480 --> 0:05:59.680 to do from the sleeping bag. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.479 It's I've heard, like I'm I'm not super up to 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.120 date with what the kids are talking about on TikTok, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.440 but I know there's this idea of girl rotting where 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.279 it's you spend all day in your bed. I read 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.320 about that, yeah, on on the New York Times. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.760 Yep, they write they write an impact bold on the 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.760 New York Times, right. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.760 Right, right, Yeah, they definitely do with an outline and 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.520 with like a penguin in the middle of it. The Yeah, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.080 so this, I think this we all got to pack 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.039 it up. Girl rotting is over because these bagworms have 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.880 already mastered it. So it's it's over. We've done it 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.599 peak girl rotting. So onto the bone collector caterpillar. So 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.640 similar to bagworms, they build a case around themselves out 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.720 of materials that they have available. Those materials just happen 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:52.040 to be their own murder victims. So this is found 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:57.599 on the beautiful island of Hawaii. Bone collector caterpillars are 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:04.000 the juvenile form of hyposmoke coma moths, which when they're adults, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.520 they just kind of look like, I don't know, little 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.800 tiny scrappy moths. They're not very impressive to be honest. Yeah, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:15.760 but the moth larvae are carnivorous and they basically do 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.440 an ed geen thing where they use the corpses of 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.400 their victims as a costume that they wear. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.960 I'm looking at it now, it just got it's a 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.440 it's just wearing trophies of the things. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.120 That yes, yes, and it does. It does this in 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.760 a very meticulous way. It doesn't just slap them on. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.080 It kind of makes sure it's rotated correctly and it 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.280 puts it on and even cuts them down to size. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.560 If it's too big, they sort of well like, ah, 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.080 this head's a little bit too big. Chew, chew, chew. Okay, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.640 now it's small enough, and I'll put it on where 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:50.360 it is a brooch? 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.760 How is it getting it on its back like that? 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:59.640 So it just like the other bagworms. It uses sticky 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.800 milk maybe feces to as an adhesive, and then it 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.840 kind of creates this It's almost like a cocoon, except 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.360 it lives in it and it can move around in it. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.600 It crawls around. Yeah, man, So what I'm looking at here, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.800 it's a lot of legs. First of all, they are 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.600 leg heavy. There's like a lot of like looks like 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.480 cricket legs, and yeah, stuff like that. And then some 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:26.400 weavil heads and things, and they've covered their entire entire 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.360 body in the limbs of their enemies or like whatever 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:31.239 they killed. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:32.000 That's right. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.360 And then the moth itself, I mean you just undersell it. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.760 It's got some kind of like fringy wings. It's yeah, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.080 like a beautiful white fringe coming off of them. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.520 It's a little a little bit late, I can see that. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.320 Yeah, yeah, certainly one is more or less horrified than 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:51.600 the other. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.000 El say that much for sure, And so they create 0:08:55.040 --> 0:09:00.680 these elaborate cases out of the the exoskeletons of victims, 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.040 and the whole reason they do this is really really 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.400 weird and interesting. So they are carnivores, but they like 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.439 to work smarter, not harder, because they essentially they're moving 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.040 around relatively slowly in this big case that they make 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:22.080 around themselves, and they hang around spider webs, and they 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.640 the spider essentially does all the work right, creates the web, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:31.040 catches insects in them, and the bone collector will go 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.680 up to a dead or dying insect and be like 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:38.079 great free lunch and either kill it or just eat 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.320 whatever the spider hasn't eaten or eat before the spider 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.960 has a chance to eat it. And then it takes 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:49.800 that dead insect or whatever it is arthur pod, and 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:54.480 once it's all sucked dry, it arranges it artfully on 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.000 its case, and now it looks like a pile of 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.360 dead bugs, which is totally not out of play on 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:04.120 a spider web, so essentially tricking the spider into thinking 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.360 that it's just a bunch of trash from its own 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:08.920 prey that it's eaten. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.720 Our beautiful death mosaic, something nice to lighten up the 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.880 spider web. Yeah, why isn't Why aren't these maybe you 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.400 don't know the answer. Why aren't these caterpillars sticking to 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:18.920 the web? 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.560 Well? They that's a really that is actually a good question. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.000 I would think that given they are also a silk 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:32.240 producing animal, that they just have the skills to sort 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.200 of traverse the silk with their little little claws. 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:36.800 They're wearing the right gloves. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.240 They've got the right gloves there. It is interesting because 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.080 they're The case that they build around them doesn't really 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.600 stick to the web. But I assume they're able to 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.120 just drag that along. They have the strength to drag 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.920 it along with their little bodies. Whereas an insect that 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.760 gets trapped in the web, probably it's going really fast, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.120 not looking where it's flying, and then it's trapped in 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.480 there struggles gets even more wrapped up where the whereas 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:05.800 the bone collector is cool, it's collected, yeah, and you know, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.160 isn't isn't it's it is expecting the sticky web and 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.719 probably knows how to navigate it. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.040 That makes sense. So there are a lot of caterpillars 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.360 that make sort of light, and I think it was 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.520 what you were describing. They make that like it is 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.840 a webby home. It's like a webby almost looks like 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.920 a snot. But I'll tell you a quick story. We're 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.760 camping in the desert, speaking of sleeping bags. We're camping 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.160 in the desert, and you put down a ground tarp 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.280 when you can't, but you always necessarily need something on top. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.320 But the ground tarp is just a big piece of 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.320 waterproof plastic. But when stuff hits it, it makes obviously 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.160 a noise. And we're going to sleep one night and 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.360 we're just hearing this umbum on all the ground tarps, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.000 and we're like, what is that noise? And we put 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.200 on our headlamps and realize that we are covered in caterpillars. Yes, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.640 tons and tons of caterpillars on us, and like, oh, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.360 they're falling from the sky. And then we looked up 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.160 and the tree above us, the tree was just in 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.440 taste in like basically one giant web and there were yeah, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.120 hundreds of thousands of caterpillars in it, just falling from it. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.800 That's so, what did these caterpillars look like? Were they fuzzy? 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.240 What was their color? No? 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.839 I think so these were not. They were hairless, and 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.080 in my memory they were either brown or green, but 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.440 I can't remember which. And they're long, I mean they're 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.240 like pretty long, guys. They're probably like two inches two 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:30.480 and a half inches. But and they're in the deserts 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.480 of Utah. Okay, you know what any ideas I mean 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.439 I think and they sound like this. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:44.600 They sound like, oh my god, there's weird underneath her. Yeah, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.079 they I mean I believe they would be a type 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:52.319 of social caterpillar. It's yeah, which social what it sounds like? Well, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.160 I mean like that would be what they're called scientifically 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.400 as well, not just to compliment to them, like you're 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:05.479 a real social caterpillary, but in terms of their specific species, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.920 I don't know exactly what species had live there, but yeah, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:14.600 they're they're essentially called the type of caterpillar that is 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.280 are called a social caterpillars. And they do tend to 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.320 form large groups in trees, and some species do create 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.080 sort of almost like funnel like webs and stuff in 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:26.600 the trees. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.720 Yeah. Okay, and then and now I need to also 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.080 hijack your podcast to get to tell you a different 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.400 story about a nightmare caterpillar. There's there's something. There's an 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.520 elm tree in our neighbor's yard that uh this basically 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.120 come on this podcast to make sure that you can 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.640 answer questions for me that I sure. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.640 Go for it if you have. If you have questions 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.440 out there that you would like me to answer, you 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.520 can write to me at Creature feature Pod at gmail 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.400 dot com and I'll answer all your caterpillar questions too. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.400 Now go for it, soar and let's see if I 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:57.280 can answer this one. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.200 There's, uh, we have an elm tree that's near us, 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.679 and there's some type of caterpillar that really loves it, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.560 loves it, and I know that it eventually will become 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.640 this black butterfly with maybe like some tinge on the 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.959 end of its wings that it's either white or yellow. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.800 But when they're young there, when they're a caterpillar. There's 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.680 a bunch of them. My son found one and we 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.960 were like, let's let's get it to form its Let's see, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.640 they're butterfly, so it would be a crystalist. Le's get 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.880 them to the form of their chrystalist in this jar. 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.640 And he was like he had it in the house 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.920 and he did definitely form into a chrysalis, and we're 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.280 just sort of waiting for it to hatch. While we 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.600 were waiting, it's this really menacing looking chrystalis. It has 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.040 like spikes on it and stuff. It looks really horrifying. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:48.160 And while we were waiting, I broke my toe. My 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.960 daughter split her face open. I got it, had to 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:59.280 get an appendectomy on a Father's day. You gotta try it. Yeah, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:04.800 and the kids do it. It's really fun. I hadn't ever. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.360 And so while I was at the hospital waiting to 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.080 get my app indeck to me to call my wife 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.320 and I was like, is that is that chrystalis in 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:13.640 the house And she was like yeah. I was like, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.640 please remove it. And I had this real feeling of 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.160 dread surrounding this because of all this confluence of terrible 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.080 events h and I wanted it gone. I wanted it 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.720 out of the house. And now I won't let my 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.520 son collect those a Another detail of these is that 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.600 they do form on the ouse they put they're on 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.080 in the eaves of our house. The caterpillars love to 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.320 set up their chrystals is there, and when they hatch 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.040 from them. They bleed out of it. So there's drops 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.720 of a really dark red blood all over the ground, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:41.960 every underneath each one of these. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:43.960 That sounds like a good omen though. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.160 Right I would, Yeah, you'd think so blood's always good, right, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:47.880 that's a good omen. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.520 So that it's so that the Moses version of God 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.960 knows not to steal your children. Yeah, so that I 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.240 think that's the spiny elm caterpillar or it's they are 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.080 also which a fun thing is they're also known as 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:10.600 morning cloak butterflies. Yeah, so which is it seems really 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.480 also like a good omen to me. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.920 Yeah, these are them, these are this is definitely the butterfly. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.080 Let me see their crystalist too, morning cloak butterfly. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.080 They're like they're red and black, and the caterpillars themselves 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.320 are kind of spiny as well. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, this criz is the crystalist. These are horrifying. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:28.840 Yeah. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.160 Yeah, this is the thing. This is the thing that 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.960 broke my toe and made me take it curs organs 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:35.760 out of my body. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.920 It cursed you for uh imprisoning its chrysalis, by the. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.840 Way, that would never even hatched. It was just there. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:49.320 It just remained a very vengeful goo inside. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.560 Yeah, so I guess my question is is that that's true? Right? 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.640 They're bad, They're bad luck those ones, are they? You know? 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:57.200 Curse you? Well? 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.920 You know, when caterpillars turn into a goo, they retained 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.760 some of their neural crust cells and they can remember things. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.600 So I do believe that one cursed you in goo 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.160 form because it had a grudge. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.520 I think probably. Yeah, I took it away from the 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.200 elm tree that it was on in our neighbor's guard 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.080 and we put it in a jar. Okay, I'm not 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:17.560 doing that. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:24.040 Again, precious elm. That's right. So the the bone collector caterpillar, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:30.640 the bagworm like caterpillar, they essentially they just cover themsells 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.720 in skulls of their enemies, which are you know, the exoskeletons. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.440 So the spider doesn't recognize that it's a thing that 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.360 has a delicious treat inside and just chills with the spider, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:48.280 steals its food and lives a great life. Apparently sounds great. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.639 I'm I love the idea of collecting. If I'm going 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.320 to be a dude, like a D and D campaign, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.120 I'm collecting something from my enemy, I'm collecting some sort 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.680 of trophy and I'm wearing it the rest of the time. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.320 I like the idea of your armor just being a 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:08.040 bunch of skulls piled together, not just just you know, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.080 your your entire chest breastplate is just a bunch of skulls, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.919 your legs covered in a bunch of skulls, sort of 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.360 like the Michelin man. But it's all like skulls. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.399 Yeah, and to leave just like you leave one open, right, 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.680 And then whenever you're fighting an enemy, you're like, this 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.840 is this is your spot. That's where you will go 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.280 exactly when I remove you from your bones? 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:33.320 Right? Wait, no, remove your wait, who's the U? 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.800 You're right though, just a horrifying way of putting it. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.840 I think I just kind of thing where it's like, wait, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.320 but are you wouldn't you be the bones? And it's like, no, 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:46.880 you're not the bones and the stuff in the bones? Yes, right, Well, man. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.720 See you off of these whoa. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.359 This is as trippy as when I saw the x 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.480 ray of my wisdom teeth trying to break into my 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:59.720 sinus cavities. I'm like, whoa, whoa, man, look at that 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.720 my own soul is betraying me and trying to kill me. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.600 You have swung a door open onto like a part 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.879 of your life I didn't know existed it, just like 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.000 you realize when you hear these things from other people. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.120 Life has so many chapters. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.760 So many chapters, like the chapter where all four of 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.240 my wisdom teeth had to be removed and two of 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.040 them were growing into my sinus cavities with a vengeance, 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.520 trying to reach my brain in time before I got 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:25.400 rid of them. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.960 What a story. Yeah, right, that they were trying to 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.160 kill you, that's right. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.440 They were like, we will, we will find your brain. 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:37.320 And the orthodontist was not concerned at all. If you're wondering, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.359 if you thought, like maybe he would be concerned that 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.280 my wisdom teeth were trying to grow into my sinus cavities. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.840 Like I see it all the time. It happens all 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:46.920 the time. Don't worry about them, Like, am I gonna 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.800 have holes in there? Oh? Not serious ones? 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:52.800 Yeah I had. 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:57.199 He couldnt be less concerned. Yeah, we all take these out. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.080 They've seen it all. I had a lism teeth only 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:00.720 on the bottom. But when I tell the X ray 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.360 you see it obviously from silhouette from the side profile. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.639 I mean, and one of them you could see, like 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.800 basically in the topography of the top of a tooth 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.919 coming directly at you. Yeah, And I was like that 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.480 seems wrong, and they're like, yeah, it's coming out sideways. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:15.920 Yeah. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.560 I was like, Okay, they're so silly. Those are some 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.920 silly teeth. Yeah, wisdom. 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.040 Yeah, you don't know which Tame'm gonna come for you. 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:29.560 I'm ironically named. All right, Well, we're going to take 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.080 a quick break and then we're going to talk about 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.440 a more positive but equally disgusting worm tale. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.639 If I'm being honest, we're not going to get there. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:39.480 I've got a lot more. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:46.199 Stories sour in. There is a worm out there that, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.560 without really meaning to, acts as a midwife to squits. 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.399 Do you need me to repeat that sentence or did 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:52.320 you get it the first time? 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.920 Well, I guess I'm curious as to because they don't lactate, 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:58.800 so how what would we be doing to help raise 0:20:58.840 --> 0:20:59.440 the young. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.000 I mean, no, they don't lactape. That's a really good 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.880 call when it comes to squids. 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.959 Yeah, people always said about me every time I talk 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.200 about how squids dn't lactate. Yeah, calls good call. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:17.840 Call, really you really, uh, you really nailed that squid fact. So, yeah, 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:22.480 it's it's a worm that helps the basically the young 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:27.000 squid in the birthing process like a like a midwife. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.000 And oh, I see, I see. Yeah. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.399 So let's first talk about the squids, because the squid 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:37.080 themselves are freaks. They're called opalescent squid. They're found all 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.560 along the western coast of America from Mexico to British Columbia. 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:45.400 They're pretty common, and they're very squid like squids. They're 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:49.000 kind of gray, sort of opal esson. I suppose they 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:53.719