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Speaker 1: Welcome the Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show Upsetting Spaghetti. These are tubular

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Speaker 1: creatures that just don't feel right, but maybe they'll worm

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Speaker 1: your way into your heart. From a morbid fashionista to

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Speaker 1: an obg wormman, these worms are a bit odd, and

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Speaker 1: one of them is definitely metal. Discover this and more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the age old question why not live

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Speaker 1: your life in a bag? Joining me today is friend

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Speaker 1: of the show, writer for American Dad and the Soorin

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Speaker 1: part of Quick Question with Soorn and Daniel Soren. Booie, welcome, boo,

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Speaker 1: boo boo.

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Speaker 2: We hate him.

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Speaker 1: We're booing sorn Or.

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Speaker 2: We're booing I'm going Sorn.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I like to imagine that the very worst of my

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Speaker 2: haters listen, and then I win them back. So right,

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Speaker 2: I psack myself up by booing myself to begin.

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. I psych myself up

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Speaker 1: by booing you as well.

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Speaker 2: It feels good, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: I just feel really good. I suggest everyone try it,

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Speaker 1: Booing Soren, so Soren. Today we are talking about it's

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Speaker 1: not just worms. That's why I'm calling them spaghetti because

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Speaker 1: they're they're the animals that come in tube form. And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different types of tube anels.

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Speaker 2: Terrible tubes, the terrible nightmare noodles.

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Speaker 1: Nightmare noodles. That's a good one. That's a really good one.

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Speaker 1: And this first story is one that you might have read, actually,

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Speaker 1: because it's in the New York Times, which is like a.

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Speaker 2: Little pretty much guarantee I didn't.

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Speaker 1: You're more of a Wall Street Journal kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: Then I like to say that I am. I do

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Speaker 2: tell people frequently when I find out new facts that

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Speaker 2: I read it somewhere, when what I really mean is

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Speaker 2: that I was scrolling through TikTok and.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well, this is a this is a

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Speaker 1: it's a newspaper, which is sort of a okay, both

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Speaker 1: a physical sometimes an online medium where there's like words

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Speaker 1: on a page and sometimes pictures. And this time they

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Speaker 1: had pictures of something pretty horrible looking called a bone

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Speaker 1: collector caterpillar, a bone collector.

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Speaker 2: There's a movie called The Bone Collector. Yeah, there is.

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Speaker 2: Let's see right.

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Speaker 1: Now, bone collector.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if I'm right about this. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a Denzel Washington movie.

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Speaker 1: You're correct about that, and in it he is.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to say. Maybe he's an undertaker who's secretly

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Speaker 2: really good at fighting. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, no, it's close. But he's a forensics expert

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Speaker 1: whose bed bound after an accident left him paralyzed from

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Speaker 2: And not doing the same job as No. Yeah, apparently

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Speaker 2: in Nightmare Noodles, close is cigar?

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Speaker 1: So close is cigar? That is? I've heard that expression

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Speaker 1: actually before. So the bone collector caterpillar was featured in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times because it's one of these animals

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Speaker 1: that does freak stuff that we all love, and there's

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Speaker 1: this one. Is It's interesting because there are actually a

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Speaker 1: around themselves. It's a protective case. And we'll get into

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Speaker 1: what the bone collector does specifically. But first of me

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Speaker 1: just talk to you about bagworms for a bit. Can

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Speaker 1: I talk to you about bagworms. I've been dying to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about bagworms.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear about bagworms. First. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: put a little pin in my bone collectors and i

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Speaker 1: We will get back. We'll get back to the bone

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Speaker 1: collector after this brief announcement from bagworms. So, there are

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Speaker 1: They pupate inside of these cases and they burst out

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Speaker 2: I can't do that, I guess. I mean, I've definitely

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Speaker 2: just what if I lived here forever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What if I lived here, laid some eggs and

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Speaker 2: People just came to me and like, right, I got

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Speaker 2: all the stuff done in the world that I need

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Speaker 1: It's I've heard, like I'm I'm not super up to

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Speaker 1: but I know there's this idea of girl rotting where

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Speaker 1: it's you spend all day in your bed. I read

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Speaker 2: Yep, they write they write an impact bold on the

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Speaker 2: New York Times, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, they definitely do with an outline and

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Speaker 1: peak girl rotting. So onto the bone collector caterpillar. So

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Speaker 1: similar to bagworms, they build a case around themselves out

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Speaker 1: on the beautiful island of Hawaii. Bone collector caterpillars are

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Speaker 1: the juvenile form of hyposmoke coma moths, which when they're adults,

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Speaker 1: they just kind of look like, I don't know, little

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Speaker 1: but the moth larvae are carnivorous and they basically do

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it now, it just got it's a

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Speaker 2: it's just wearing trophies of the things.

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Speaker 1: That yes, yes, and it does. It does this in

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Speaker 1: a very meticulous way. It doesn't just slap them on.

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Speaker 1: If it's too big, they sort of well like, ah,

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Speaker 1: this head's a little bit too big. Chew, chew, chew. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now it's small enough, and I'll put it on where

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Speaker 1: it is a brooch?

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Speaker 2: How is it getting it on its back like that?

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Speaker 1: So it just like the other bagworms. It uses sticky

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Speaker 2: It crawls around. Yeah, man, So what I'm looking at here,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of legs. First of all, they are

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Speaker 2: cricket legs, and yeah, stuff like that. And then some

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Speaker 2: weavil heads and things, and they've covered their entire entire

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Speaker 2: And then the moth itself, I mean you just undersell it.

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Speaker 2: It's got some kind of like fringy wings. It's yeah,

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Speaker 2: like a beautiful white fringe coming off of them.

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Speaker 1: It's a little a little bit late, I can see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, certainly one is more or less horrified than

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Speaker 1: El say that much for sure, And so they create

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Speaker 1: weird and interesting. So they are carnivores, but they like

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Speaker 1: the spider essentially does all the work right, creates the web,

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Speaker 2: spider web. Yeah, why isn't Why aren't these maybe you

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Speaker 2: don't know the answer. Why aren't these caterpillars sticking to

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Speaker 1: Well? They that's a really that is actually a good question.

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Speaker 2: They're wearing the right gloves.

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Speaker 1: They've got the right gloves there. It is interesting because

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Speaker 1: they're The case that they build around them doesn't really

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Speaker 1: the bone collector is cool, it's collected, yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: isn't isn't it's it is expecting the sticky web and

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. So there are a lot of caterpillars

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Speaker 2: that make sort of light, and I think it was

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Speaker 2: a webby home. It's like a webby almost looks like

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Speaker 2: a snot. But I'll tell you a quick story. We're

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Speaker 2: camping in the desert, speaking of sleeping bags. We're camping

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Speaker 2: in the desert, and you put down a ground tarp

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Speaker 2: But the ground tarp is just a big piece of

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Speaker 2: waterproof plastic. But when stuff hits it, it makes obviously

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Speaker 2: and we're like, what is that noise? And we put

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Speaker 2: on our headlamps and realize that we are covered in caterpillars. Yes,

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Speaker 2: tons and tons of caterpillars on us, and like, oh,

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Speaker 2: taste in like basically one giant web and there were yeah,

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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of caterpillars in it, just falling from it.

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Speaker 1: Call, really you really, uh, you really nailed that squid fact. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, they're squid. It's close. It's very close. It's so

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Speaker 1: and I can use it to fertilize her eggs.

433
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: Transaction complete, goodbye, yeah, transactional turn my limbs back to

434
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: their normal color.

435
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, exactly. And so then they then the females

436
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: fertilize the eggs, and the eggs kind of come in

437
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: these white, kind of oblong cases, and they're just it

438
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: looks like a weird forest of all of this stuff.

439
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: It looks like a weird kind of coral like growth happening.

440
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: But it's all these egg cases. These females are laying

441
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: and then they all die, okay, and it's like a

442
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: feeding frenzy for scavengers because they are all these dead

443
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: squid that just did it. They've completed their life story.

444
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: They had lately their eggs and they're just like, well,

445
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm I am extremely tired. I think I will just

446
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: take a nap, and by that I mean stop existing. Uh.

447
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: And so what happens is you have all these baby

448
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: squid and they just don't have any living parents who

449
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: are there for them. And it's the egg cases themselves

450
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: are have a smile the toxin in them which makes

451
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: them unpalatable. So that's why they don't all get eaten

452
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: on masks. Some animals, I think try to eat them.

453
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a real lesson there in terms of

454
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: like people who engage in orgies when they still have

455
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: when they have children in their life. You're just taught

456
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: impossible to be there for your kids when that's your lifestyle.

457
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, especially when it's underwater.

458
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Mmm.

459
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: You know that's the key, that's I think a key

460
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: problem in this situation. So yeah, So for most right,

461
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: these egg cases are completely unappetizing except for a worm

462
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: called Capitella ovincola, which are small, white, pinkish. They're called polykeets.

463
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: These are marine worms that are just a couple millimeters long,

464
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: and after the eggs have some time to kind of ripen,

465
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: these are actually really attractive to these worms, and that

466
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: sounds like it would be bad news for the baby squid.

467
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: You have this worm, it's like, ooh, delicious egg cases.

468
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: But as it turns out, the worms will break into

469
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: the eggsack itself and they completely ignore the baby squid.

470
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: They're not at all interested in eating those. What they

471
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: do is they eat this gelatin like substance that separates

472
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: each squid embryo from the other. So it's like it

473
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: within the egg case are sort of smaller eggs inside,

474
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: and so the worm is eating the outside of these

475
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: smaller egg divisions within the egg case. And when the

476
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: squid is about ready to hatch. This allows the seawater

477
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: to come into the egg case and it oxygenates them.

478
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: It also helps weaken the basically the membrane of the

479
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: egg case, and it makes it easier for the little

480
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: squid to hatch, because otherwise it would be tough to

481
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: kind of punch their way out of the egg case.

482
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: So these worms, which don't at all hurt the squids,

483
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: just go in. They are like, ooh, snack and they

484
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: start eating what's essentially kind of like the placenta of

485
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: the of the squid. And then that helps the squid.

486
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: That helps the squid break free of their egg case.

487
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. It's greazingatic relationship. I don't think that.

488
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: It's sort of sad to me that they will never

489
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: know the other one. You know, Yeah, the worm just

490
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: knows that here's a meal, and like and then then

491
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: the squid comes out. I was like, fuck, that was easy. Yeah,

492
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: life's gonna be good. Life's easy. Neither one of them

493
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: never know will know how much they helped the other, which.

494
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Is like I'd like to think that there's like at

495
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: least a few of them who are preternaturally smart, and

496
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: they wave to each other like hey, what's up. I

497
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: know what's going on here. You and I we both

498
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: know what's going on here.

499
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: The worm just waves its body.

500
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one will know. No one will ever know.

501
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: They actually have all these like little bristly appendages all

502
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: along their bodies, so they could wave some of those

503
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: in a truly disturbing manner.

504
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: But I didn't ate the outside of your chicken eggshell.

505
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it's a it's a beautiful symbiotic,

506
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: mutualistic relationship between these two.

507
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: You need more of that in the world.

508
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm saying more eaten membranes and less building walls.

509
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: Less. I don't want to see seagulls swooping down and

510
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: eating baby sea turtles. They just pick them up, lick

511
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: off the viscera, and just carry them gently to the sea.

512
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, licking like I think that would be

513
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: nice if they, you know, licked off the viscera.

514
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those eggshells they are full of that. Great still, just.

515
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Like just have the viscera part, right, the sort of

516
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: the afterbirth, if you know, and you're.

517
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: It's an investment honestly for those seagulls, because now you've

518
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: got more sea turtles that are gonna lay more eggs.

519
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: Right, and exactly. There's actually a fishing strategy for certain

520
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: types of squid where fishermen go towards the end of

521
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: their life cycle like this with the with the squid

522
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, after they've laid their eggs and

523
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: they're all going to die anyways, that's when we go

524
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: fish them because they're all going to die anyways, and

525
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: why not you.

526
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, they put them to good use, that's right here. Yeah,

527
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: I invite those in fight, all these creatures to eat

528
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: my body when I'm dead. Yeah, well you're welcome to it, squids,

529
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: because I also want to be cast into the sea.

530
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, turn about spare play right with the squid?

531
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: They like do you think they have little bibs but

532
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: with us on it when we are when when our

533
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: bodies are at sea?

534
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like they're already they've already got forking knife

535
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: in their hand that they're working with while they're tying

536
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: the bib on.

537
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're tying a little bib that has like a

538
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: person shape on it.

539
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that a lot.

540
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: Do you think they have those little lemon scented hand

541
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: wipes for their little pincers.

542
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: I mean guarantee right right for.

543
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: The try divors when they're like going to town on

544
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: a whale carcass, Like, well, let me just wipe my

545
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: little hands off here.

546
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: That's a that's like a Red Lobster specific thing.

547
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Like I've been I've been known to. Uh. I have

548
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: never once in my I have never been to a

549
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Red lam Katie.

550
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: You got you got just for the cheddar Bay biscuits

551
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: I've heard.

552
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I've heard those are very good. But you know, my

553
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: cousin once made them just by herself. As like, these

554
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: are very good. I don't need to go to Red

555
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: Lobster because my cousin made them.

556
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you want to get them from the source.

557
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm going to tell my cousin that you

558
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: said you just negged her biscuits.

559
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that she did it and then she tried,

560
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell you those were dogs.

561
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness. They don't listen to my podet. So uh,

562
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break and when we

563
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: come back, we're going to talk about blood worms. Oh god,

564
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: So this is very metal worm and so my husband

565
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: is super in the metal and I told him. I

566
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: was doing an episode on worms and he was like,

567
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: you should talk about lord Worm, and I forgot. Uh.

568
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: He's like a I don't know what he does in

569
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: the band, but he he's like a like he was

570
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: part of the group Cryptopsy. Cryptopsy, which is a metal

571
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: metal band. Yeah, and so lord Worm. H I God,

572
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: I have the Wikipedia, but it's in Italian. This is

573
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: very frustrating to me. Okay, so he's all right, he's

574
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: the singer of Cryptopsy.

575
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he left after the nun So Vile tour in

576
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven. That's just a lot of information about it.

577
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Anyways, my so, what my husband wanted me to say

578
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: about this guy is that he apparently would eat worms

579
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: on stage as part of his act, and that thus

580
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: his name was Lord Worm.

581
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: He took a look at Ozzy Osbourne. He was like,

582
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: you ate that off a bat. I don't do well

583
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: with big animals just eating them live. I think, yeah,

584
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: I can eat a worm. I think that I could

585
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: recreate how to eat fried worms.

586
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I do think. I do think it's probably better in

587
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: terms of zoonotic diseases to go for the worms rather

588
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: than the bats. So I gotta say it's more sustainable

589
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: to eat the worms.

590
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just more ethically responsible.

591
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Right, He's like, you know what, it's way more sustainable

592
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: to eat worms than bats.

593
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at him, and I really wanted this

594
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: guy to look really impressive, and he just.

595
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: He just seems like some guys. This is what's This

596
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: is what is very funny about a lot of metal

597
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: is it has some name like death Bloat, corpse Parade,

598
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: and then you look at them and they're all sort

599
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: of just like I work at a library in my

600
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: spare time, just these five eight guys with a goate

601
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: It does look a little bit like Gary Oldman.

602
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah he does. He's got, you know, to his credit,

603
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: he has that early Gary Oleman and Dracula look.

604
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: He does. He does. He's got the early Gary Oldman

605
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: and Dracula look, which is very specific. I just I

606
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: think that it's if you're gonna do, I just hope

607
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: that these worms were of an edible grade. I don't

608
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: know how you make sure worms are edible, but there's

609
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: gotta be somewhere, right, because don't don't go around just

610
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: eating a random bugs you find in your backyard, because

611
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: that's a good way to get like a weird parasite.

612
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I didn't even consider the possibility that

613
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: those bugs would have parasites and them that could affect me.

614
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop doing that.

615
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: Random if you eat random slugs you can get it's

616
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: like rat lungworm, which is really bad.

617
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

618
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I so.

619
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: Also, my assumption would have been, like you eat crickets

620
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: off the ground or something, which obviously don't.

621
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Do it, but you could get anymatoad.

622
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you I assume it would also be like

623
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: the stuff that they're carrying, or like worms that they've got.

624
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: There's wriggling around in some pretty filthy soil. I imagine

625
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: I could get some equal eye or something from just

626
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: the outside of a worm.

627
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean you probably could. There's at least like what

628
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not supposed to just have eat dirt

629
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: rot dirts, right, Yeah, I'm supposed to eat rod dirt

630
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: because of the disease is like hysteria you can get

631
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: from that. You can get hysteria. Apparently you can't garden

632
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: when you're pregnant unless you're wearing gloves because of the

633
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: lhysteria on the soil.

634
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god. All I know is about turkey meat.

635
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: They're like, don't eat cold cuts. But I never said

636
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: anything about don't grow roses or anything.

637
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, you're not allowed you're not allowed to have fun.

638
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to uh, you're not allowed to play

639
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: in the dirt or eat worms. It's frankly ridiculous.

640
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: So which has no fish.

641
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: No, no dirt, no much.

642
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: Cheeses, no cheese, nothing.

643
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: No cheese nothing. Well, you know I thought that, Wait

644
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: is it the opposite? I thought pasteurized cheeses.

645
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think maybe that's okay, it's the stinky ones.

646
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: It's like you're not supposed to have, like the those

647
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: French cheeses. Oh boy, I can't remember now all this

648
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: information leaves you immediately.

649
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: Cheeses. That's what they call them, the gym sock cheeses,

650
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: the French gym sock cheesus.

651
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get off this topic and get onto blood

652
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: worms advertising.

653
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: So they are also called glyceara dibrayan chiata. What a

654
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: wonderful phrase. Which they grow a little over a foot long.

655
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: They are blood red and horrible looking. These are also

656
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: like remember the nice little midwife worms we talked about earlier,

657
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: That are polykeets. These are also polykeets. It's a type

658
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: of marine worm. It's a huge group of worms, so

659
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: it's not they're not super closely related. And so they

660
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: are a little over a foot long. They are venomous.

661
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: They have copper fangs, and they're irritable.

662
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking at their fangs right now. Oh man, wait,

663
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: so they will they it would bite me. It wouldn't

664
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: like me.

665
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they wouldn't like you. They're irritable. They're like boo sore.

666
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: And that's also how they pump themselves up is booing you.

667
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: So they are found all along coastal North America. They're

668
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: predators and they like to hide in the sand and

669
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: ambush their prey with those horrible little things on their proboscis.

670
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little. You want to talk about

671
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: proboscis just for a minute. Let's talk about love to

672
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: love to talk about a proposcos So it's kind of

673
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: like a balloon like extrusion. Preposcus is in general an extrusion. Yeah,

674
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: And the there's this I read this New York Times

675
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: article on this blood worm, and there was this great

676
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: quote from a researcher at UC Santa Barbara. His name

677
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: is William Wonderley. Uh, and he told The New York

678
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Times quote, you can't imagine if your head was a balloon.

679
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: Normally it's sucked inside your body. I'm like, oh, yeah,

680
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: of course, in my head's a balloon, it's normally sucked

681
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: inside my body. Of course I'm already there. Yeah. Then

682
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: when you want to eat, you inflate it and bite

683
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: and then suck it back in, and it's like, of course,

684
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: yeah that It's like you can imagine this, right, You've

685
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: always you've thought about it, if your head's a balloon,

686
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: and then but it's normally inside your body, but then

687
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: you inflate it and you bite down so that it

688
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: stays inflated. Uh, and then you suck it back in

689
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: once you get food through your your sort of balloon mandibles.

690
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

691
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, apparently that's how it works.

692
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, and I mean, there's obviously, oh

693
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: way more apt descripsion than that this guy is clearly avoiding.

694
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: And it's clear that that's exactly what he was thinking

695
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: about the entire time, because he was like, don't say,

696
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: don't say foreskin, don't say.

697
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't.

698
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the head of your your body, the

699
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: head of your body, how you know, it expands out

700
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: like a balloon and eats and then and then goes

701
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: back in Yeah, oh god, and then just runs off

702
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: into the woods. He just leaves the interview.

703
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: This is a very this is a very foreskin like creature. Uh.

704
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the tip of it

705
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: is our four little things.

706
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: Just like a normal penis.

707
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's the thing is what's funny is

708
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: there's so many penis like marine animals. There's more than

709
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: one species that are not related called penis fish. Anyways,

710
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: we're not here to talk about them. We're here to

711
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: talk about the bloodworm. So they will inject venom into

712
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: their prey off in small crustaceans. It's enough to paralyze

713
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: or even kill them. For humans, it's not so bad.

714
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a beasting. Some people might be

715
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: allergic in the same way some people are allergic to beastings,

716
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: but for most people it's not deadly. It's just very

717
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: painful because it's like also, I feel like it would

718
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: be more traumatic than a beasting, because you get stung

719
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: by a bee. I feel mostly bad for the bee

720
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: because I'm like no, why did you waste your life

721
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: on me? Like I was not going to hurt your queen.

722
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: You've made a terrible mistake. But for this thing, it's

723
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: just this awful creature that looks so bad in every way.

724
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: It's it's just I wouldn't if I saw this like

725
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: coming out of my I don't know, if it like

726
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: bit me on the leg, I wouldn't assume first that

727
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: this is an animal that's biting me. I would assume that,

728
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: like my leg is exploding, and.

729
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it looks like internal organs.

730
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like that my like leg guts are coming out,

731
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: Like I think that there's like leg intestines that I

732
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: have that are coming out or something. It looks very

733
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: intestine like. It's not a good it's not a good

734
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: looking animal. I think spiders are cute, so I am

735
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: pretty generous when it comes to finding animals cute, and

736
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: this one just looks it does not. It's very visceral.

737
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: Yes, it's that's exactly right. It's a very visceral looking

738
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: animal at every turn. It's also because it's so like

739
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 2: flesh colored. It's just yes, it's it's just it really,

740
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: it's tough to look at It reminds me of if

741
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: if people can't see this obviously, if you that remake

742
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: of King Kong when they all fall into that pit

743
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: and like they get eaten by those worms. They look

744
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: kind of like those worms.

745
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was the one with the gull with

746
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: gollum in it. Yeah, what's normal person?

747
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah he's he's a cook in that. Yeah, but yeah

748
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: he gets eaten by those worms. He gets like sloiced

749
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: devoured by them. Those have a lot more teeth. These

750
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: only have four teeth that are like teeth is wrong, obviously,

751
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: they're fangs. And the fangs don't even like sit together. Well,

752
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: it's not like well designed like a shag like a snake,

753
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: where like the fangs like, oh, they retract and they

754
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: pull up and then they bite. These are just like

755
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: poorly placed four fangs that just sort of over each other.

756
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: It just looks it looks very It looks like it

757
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: would be a painful existence to be this thing, right,

758
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Like it hurts looking at it because it feels just

759
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: like a raw scab that is alive somehow. So apparently though,

760
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: those things are really interesting because they have a very

761
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: high copper content, more so than I think any other

762
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of organic animal part. And apparently they are made

763
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: out of melanin, copper, and a small protein melanin. I

764
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: know you're thinking like, well, that's like the pigment, which

765
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: is correct. Melanin is usually a pigment, but blood worms

766
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: have turned it into sort of an anchor for the copper.

767
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: It adheres to a copper ion that in this whole

768
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: process is facilitated by some little protein, and then it

769
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: creates this fang mostly made out of copper, and then

770
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: these other weird little facilitative proteins in the melanin.

771
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: We should be stripping them.

772
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: We should be These are valuable worms.

773
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: I'd love to see some people take these words down a.

774
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Peg, right, Such a tiny amount of copper in there,

775
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: but you know, still you need I'm trying to think

776
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: of how many worms you'd need for a penny. Yeah,

777
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: I'd say fifty worms for a penny.

778
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: That feels like south of what I was thinking. These

779
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: are so tiny, these fangs. I feel like I need

780
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: get pure copper. Yeah, I think one hundred maybe even like.

781
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: Huns were coming, we'll try it, you know, we're coming

782
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: for you. Glisarah di bran Kiata.

783
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: Even they don't know that that's them. They're like, what,

784
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: Oh was that me? Is that my name is so complicated?

785
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: I can't if that one's me.

786
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. That's why we just call them blood worms.

787
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: There's got to be a band called blood worm. There's

788
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: probably multiple bands band surely called blood worm. Blood worm.

789
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah there's yeah, yeah, there's like a few of them.

790
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh and they look exactly expect them to look pink

791
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: and slimy and yeah.

792
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: There's just it's just a bunch of guys with balloon heads.

793
00:43:53,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: Yea. They have a very foreskin forward sort of Yeah,

794
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think that it's it is, Uh,

795
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: it's we on the show. I try to appreciate everything

796
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: for what it is, and I gotta say, for to

797
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: this worm's credit, it spends most of its time buried

798
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: under the sand. So I feel like that's really something

799
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: that we could admire and appreciate about this thing, Like

800
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: it's horrible to look at, but most of the time

801
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: it's it has the self awareness to bury itself.

802
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my first thought too. As soon as you

803
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: like it spends most of the times waiting the sand,

804
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: I'm like.

805
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: Good, yeah, yeah, it's like say there, yea, we know,

806
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: we know.

807
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: That is how it sounds like trying to talk around

808
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: those stupid fangs. We for trying not to poke themselves

809
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: in their own face, their own pink raw face with

810
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: their fangs. Will they talk?

811
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really it's it's quite awful looking. And yeah,

812
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: just imagine that's the last thing you see coming at you,

813
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: Just this thing that looks apologetic for existing. It's like,

814
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: so we anyways, before we go sour, and we got

815
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: to play a little a little gom he'll go. We

816
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: gotta play a game called Guess who Squawk, a mystery

817
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: animal sound game. Every week I play a mystery sound

818
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: for you and you the listener, and use the guests

819
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: trying to guess who is who's making this sound. It

820
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: can be any animal in the world. The hint was

821
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: this last week. It is that this bird has one

822
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: of the loudest calls in the world.

823
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: All right, horrifying.

824
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, you go out in the nature to relax

825
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: and then some bird comes up to you and goes.

826
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, it's like a siren. Almh. Yeah, I'm trying

827
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: to identify even what that sound is. Okay, you said

828
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: the loudest bird My first thought was like a parrot

829
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: or a cockatoo. Those are so loud, But that does

830
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: not sound like either of those things. And it did

831
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: sound like context clues. It did sound like it was

832
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: near body of water, like rushing water, or it was

833
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: in the rain, which means that this bird lives somewhere wet.

834
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a sea bird. I think it's

835
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: something inland.

836
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: Can you try, can you try to guess the country

837
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: or the region?

838
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna say South America.

839
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: All right, well, sir, you are correct that this is

840
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: in South America. This is a bird that has a

841
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: call that is one hundred and twenty five decibels or more.

842
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: It is as loud as having your head right next

843
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: to a jet engine during takeoff. This is the white

844
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: bell bird.

845
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Uhl bird. Yeah, of course.

846
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: It looks like a dove, except for it has this

847
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: like big wattle that goes from its beak down hangs down.

848
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: It's quite long, sort of wardy looking wattle, and it

849
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: has a giant mouth. And it apparently, even though it

850
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: has such a loud voice, and it's thought like this

851
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: is so that it can be heard over really long distances.

852
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: It also screams really loudly as soon as a female

853
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: is nearby, so that's not it doesn't explain everything about

854
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: why it's so loud, because it seems to scream the

855
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: most when a female is next to it, and then

856
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: it's just like listen to this and just air horns

857
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: right in her ear, and she apparently finds that attractive.

858
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: So you got you've got the chop, you got the pipes,

859
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: my boy?

860
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: Yep, uh yeah this.

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Speaker 2: I'm really disturbed by this wattle. It looks like if

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Speaker 2: I saw a burn a tree, I would think it

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Speaker 2: was carrying a worm in its mouth, but it just

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Speaker 2: like hangs off the top like a turkey's. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: sporting a rat tail on the front.

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Speaker 1: There's a taxidermy of one of these where someone just

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Speaker 1: had a dead one and didn't know what they looked

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Speaker 1: like when they were alive, so they just assumed it

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Speaker 1: was like a unicorn worn just this like straight up

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Speaker 1: taxidermy of this like pointy horn like protrusion on this

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Speaker 1: bird because they didn't realize it was so floppy.

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Speaker 2: How could you have predicted it would be this silly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So, according to researchers, the bellbirds have the

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Speaker 1: facial anatomy of a trombone because their mouths open so wide,

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Speaker 1: and that's how one of the reasons they are so loud,

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Speaker 1: so you know, but why exactly they have to be

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Speaker 1: that loud. It doesn't seem to be known because again

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Speaker 1: they yes, it helps them communicate over long distances, but

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Speaker 1: as soon as the female is like right there, they're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, let me again. Yeah, here's an encore and

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Speaker 1: just shrieks in her ear. And they also don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly how they don't have hearing loss. Yeah, because they're

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Speaker 1: doing it, you know. I mean, maybe they just don't

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Speaker 1: live long enough for the hearing loss is set in

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Speaker 1: a full I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because to themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, having.

888
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Speaker 2: A gun next to their own face every single.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, you know, that's why you gotta wear

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Speaker 1: your protection if you like to go to concerts a lot,

891
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Speaker 1: because otherwise you start to lose it, yeah, damage your hearing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they don't. They don't seem to be affected.

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Speaker 2: That's a fun one like that when the answer is

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Speaker 2: something that I've never heard of, and then I get

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Speaker 2: to look at it and what the is it wearing? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you do.

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Speaker 1: Like, I do highly recommend looking at a video of

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Speaker 1: these guys because they'll like shriek and then kind of

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Speaker 1: like move their head around in that bird like way,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, onto this week's mystery animal sound.

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00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: The hint is this found in eastern North America. You

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Speaker 1: might find this little guy boogie woogieing and who can

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00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: blame him with a call like this? Sh sh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my god, that's a cute sound.

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Speaker 1: They're so goofy. We don't do another one.

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Speaker 2: That's that's such an adorable sound.

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00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: It's so cute and okay, another hint, the actual animal

908
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Speaker 1: behind them is equally super cute. This is not a

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Speaker 1: deceptive sound. They are as cute as the sound is. Oh.

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00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: I love these guys so much.

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00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: They sound to me like I don't know the name

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Speaker 2: they had. There's like that little round frog. It's like

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Speaker 2: a frog that almost looks like a dime. And this

914
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Speaker 2: is what I thget it's a frog.

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Speaker 1: Well, we will find out next week if sorn is

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Speaker 1: correct or not. You can write to us at Creature

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Speaker 1: Featurepod at gmail dot com with your guests, or your

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Speaker 1: questions or your disgusting caterpillar stories. Sorn, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me today, you guys pleasure. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you can find me on Blue Sky hang out

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Speaker 2: there a lot and do some jokes, jokes and what

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Speaker 2: you can find it. You can find us on our

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Speaker 2: podcast I think that I do with Daniel O'Brien called

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Speaker 2: Soren and Dan. No, it's not called that, it's called

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Speaker 2: Quick Question with Soorn and Dan. Uh and uh. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty much it. Or you can just watch my episodes on

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Speaker 2: American Dad. Yeah, or as.

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Speaker 1: I like to call it, family, Dad's family Dad, family Dad.

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Speaker 1: He's everyone's family and everyone's dad. All right, Well, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening. If you enjoyed the podcast,

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Speaker 1: please do leave a rating or review. I read them

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Speaker 1: all and I look at all of the the ratings

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Speaker 1: all the little stars each separately. So it gives me

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Speaker 1: something to do. And I appreciate that we all need

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Speaker 1: we all need stuff to do in our lives. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's one thing that I do, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your participation in that. And thanks for the song that

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Speaker 1: is called ex Alumina by the Space Cossacks. And you

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Speaker 1: can find the I am usually on autopilot for these outcomes.

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Speaker 1: I have just suddenly become self aware of what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I do not like it.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts or Yes, what where have you listen to your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows? I do not judge you. I'm not your mother.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to do, but don't go

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Speaker 1: around bothering blood worms. They're just gonna bite you, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to be seen, and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to see them. Respect that. You've gotta respect that. I'll

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Speaker 1: see you next Wednesday, you guys,