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Speaker 1: My next guest is d G. Larrey. He's a multitalented actor, writer,

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Speaker 1: start on Bounce TV's comedy I Should Say Drama Johnson.

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Speaker 1: He plays the role of Greg on the show. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Da G about his path when you say path,

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Speaker 1: What has been some of the important tools that they

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Speaker 1: He received the b A and FAM and TV from

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Speaker 1: cal State, Los Angeles. He appeared on Amazon series like

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Speaker 1: Age of the Living Dead, BOSH and owned green Leaf.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite shows, Please Worker, The Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation masterclass. Incredible. I'm staying incredible because I've watched fourteen

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Speaker 1: De g larray. Hey, I know the journey didn't get there.

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Speaker 1: The journey didn't get to the good storytelling on who

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Speaker 1: thank you for that, man, I was. I love I

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Speaker 1: love your introduction. Man. You know, never let anybody getting

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Speaker 1: I would tell you something. First of all, will slow

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Speaker 1: You asked you answer the courtion. I ain't asked it.

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Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. I'm talking to Da G. Larray.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been watching Terry for a long time,

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Speaker 1: nothing but love and respect for her. She's incredible. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: it can happens. You know everybody already, you know when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Terry, you know, you know and Cedric,

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Speaker 1: Like that relationship between her and says character on The

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey Show is untouched and unmatched. We're not trying

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Speaker 1: to We're not trying to do that. What we're doing is,

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's a drama. So, um, it's real life.

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Speaker 1: That's the genre of the show. Things are funny, we laugh,

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Speaker 1: things are serious, we laugh. You can't really predict the

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Speaker 1: So what we try to do on this shows just

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Speaker 1: So for you know, for for her character, she's a principal.

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Speaker 1: Here's a guy, Greg who's a maintenance man at the school.

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Speaker 1: You know, she's she's beautiful, he's attractive, she's single, he's single.

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Speaker 1: What would naturally happen in this situation and what could

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Speaker 1: things on this show, like you know, diving into religion.

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Speaker 1: Classism is explored on this show, and in the myth

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Speaker 1: of the absentee father. And then going back to Chloe's character,

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Speaker 1: right and so here he is she needs help, He's

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Speaker 1: black men and black women. I would tell you this,

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Speaker 1: UM great series. Johnson is a great, great, great series.

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Speaker 1: UM impressed again the directing, the writing, the acting, the

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Speaker 1: believability of the characters. They are are They're authentic. Uh, Earthquake.

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Speaker 1: I love the Death Deal hugely. I love to death

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Speaker 1: UM bringing on Terry J. Vaughan. Been a family friend

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Speaker 1: since since ninety five. That's how long I've been doing

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Speaker 1: Terry Okay, been doing has been knowing Cedric and Eric

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Speaker 1: Rohn since ninety two. Brought him down to my commedy

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Speaker 1: I've known these people. Del hugely brought him down. Been

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Speaker 1: knowing him since ninety one. So you have the relationships

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Speaker 1: that I'm so happy to see that they're working and

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Speaker 1: doing great things in this business and telling everybody. I

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Speaker 1: see a guy that going on as a producer as

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Speaker 1: also a talent in front of the camera and behind

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Speaker 1: the camera. But more importantly, Djay, your special brother. You

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Speaker 1: as a kid that just something you want to do

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Speaker 1: and and disguise are the limit for you. I definitely

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Speaker 1: want to connect with you off camera. You know, I

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Speaker 1: just want to be in busy with you, brother, I

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Speaker 1: really do you and Thomas, I want to be in

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Speaker 1: business that that means a lot, because I've been following

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Speaker 1: your career as well. Man. I study everybody, so I

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Speaker 1: know all of your accolades. I know all of your accomplishments,

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Speaker 1: and there's things that I don't know that I want

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Speaker 1: to get to know. Brother, You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I have so much respect for like I said, when

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Speaker 1: it comes to d L said, all these guys yourself,

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing about you, man. I think probably when

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Speaker 1: I first moved to l A man, this was like

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Speaker 1: it's a while, a long time ago, man, um, and

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Speaker 1: then just started like because I'm all about the people

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Speaker 1: in front of the camera, but also the people behind

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Speaker 1: the scene making things happen. So I studied those Those

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Speaker 1: are the guys to me, people making things happen behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes where where you know they don't get as

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Speaker 1: much a praise and respect that they should. Man. But

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Speaker 1: I'm that guy who notices all of that. I see everything. Man,

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Speaker 1: So much respect to you, man, I appreciate, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the kind words I appreciate you loving the series and

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Speaker 1: was only gonna get better man, trust and believe that cool.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on Myny making

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Speaker 1: conversation and we will talk soon. And I will be

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Speaker 1: talking to thom must Q Jones as well, because he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a separate intervery because I'm about promoting and promoting, promoting,

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Speaker 1: Thank you and keep producing that I got my brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm hooked. I'm from get my information for Chris Man

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Speaker 1: and me an email and we're gonna Chris, We're gonna connect.

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Speaker 1: And Chris said, we're gonna do that already before you

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Speaker 1: came on live already. Know I got to meet with

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Speaker 1: these brothers and I got some more people. I want

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Speaker 1: y'all to meet as well, not just me. That's how

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Speaker 1: much I think this, this relationship needs to be expounded upon. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you brother, thank you for coming money and make

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Speaker 1: it covers his back to class. I always remember, leave

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Speaker 1: with your gifts. Keep winning. Is Rashan McDonald. I am

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