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Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody, DJ, Bucky here, move the sticks.

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Speaker 1: We continue on with our our combined previews today Buck

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Speaker 1: to roll? Yeah, man, let's get to us. All right,

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Speaker 1: watch fuck, I just I'm I'm not in. I'm I'm

429
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,919
Speaker 1: just I'm not buying. And what happens is you end

430
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 1: up going through the process. You see these guys again

431
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 1: on some crossover tape while you're doing other players, and

432
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 1: then you hear buzz and you go, Okay, man, I

433
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 1: need to go back and do a little more work

434
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 1: on this dude. And that to me was gross Matos

435
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 1: this year. Last year it was Brian Burns for me

436
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 1: with the first run through. I just thought he played high.

437
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think he had any uh power strength to

438
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 1: his game. It was all speed and I got kind

439
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 1: of a a little bit of a Vic Beasley uh

440
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 1: vibe a little bit from him last year. And then

441
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 1: you go back and you circle back and you're like,

442
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,160
Speaker 1: you know what, this guy just knows how to rush.

443
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 1: He knows how to he knows how to finish, He's

444
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 1: got the production to back it up. Um. So I

445
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 1: ended up coming way up on Burns and this year

446
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 1: the same exact thing with this one with with Gross Matos.

447
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: He was an acquired taste for me. Yeah, I can

448
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: see why because he is a long rangey pass russie

449
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: used his length in his handquicks to win. Uh. Kind

450
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,119
Speaker 1: of a strider and you normally don't see striders have

451
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of success. Meaning, um, they're guys that are

452
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 1: cat like off the ball, like a von Miller. There

453
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 1: are other guys that are a little slower off the ball,

454
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 1: but they win because they're able to use their land

455
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 1: to get into you and around you. He is that

456
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: kind of player. When I looked at my notes, I said, look,

457
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: this is Jason Pierre Paul all over a game. Because

458
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: when you looked at j C and Pierre Paul Suth Florida,

459
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: I didn't see a guy that kind of popped off

460
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: the line. But I saw a guy when he could

461
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: secuas his moves and put it together, he could consistently

462
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Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. I believe that is the potential

463
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,719
Speaker 1: of Gross Mottos. Um. He made out while you had

464
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: das you with his individual athletic traits, but he has

465
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,719
Speaker 1: some technical skills to go with what he does display

466
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: that could enable him to be a pretty good player.

467
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: The interesting thing I'm axed to see how he tests.

468
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: That'll be one that I'm really keeping an eye on

469
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: because when I go through my notes and this is

470
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Speaker 1: Michigan State, Ohio State in Michigan. When I watched him

471
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Speaker 1: the first time, Um, I have no twitch written down

472
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Speaker 1: like three times book and usually you know, like we

473
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Speaker 1: talked about it with Epanessa. Well, Epanessa has got some

474
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Speaker 1: power to his game, so to me, I'm not saying,

475
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, obviously elite guys have speed and power, and

476
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: we get into hand moves and technique and all that stuff.

477
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: But I've always believed you've got to have one of

478
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Speaker 1: the other because everything kind of builds off your your pitch,

479
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: your number one pitch. What's your first pitch, either speed

480
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 1: or power, and you build the rest of your past.

481
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Rush Arsenal off that he's really he's really about hands,

482
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: he's about technique. Um, he can he can finish at

483
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: the top. He gets some of those efforts Sacks. I

484
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: did think he plays hard. Um, but you know, he

485
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: does not have elite power, He does not have elite

486
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: twitch and get off. Yeah like and and it's a funny.

487
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: I said, he needs to be utilized on loops and stunts.

488
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: He kind of has to have a little runway to

489
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Speaker 1: get going getting to the quarterback. We'll see what kind

490
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: of scheme fits him. Uh, where he belongs. Uh. I

491
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: think this is where we probably should have the conversation

492
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: about Caleb and chasing, because I don't have him listed here.

493
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: I kind of have him in a separate little category

494
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: where he's kind of hanging on his own. Here's what

495
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: I saw when when I watched him, ultra athletic pass rusher.

496
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: I wrote my notes speed speed, speed, first step, quickness

497
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: and bursts. Uh, outstanding on stunts, long a penetration. He's terrific,

498
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: very good closing speed. The big question that I had

499
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: on him, I felt like he was a flasher, meaning

500
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: you get blown away by the athletic trades. You see it.

501
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the production match the physical tools,

502
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: and so I don't necessarily know what to do with Jason. Well,

503
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: this is what I would say. Um, I like this kid,

504
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 1: and I think when you go back and look at

505
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: suffered and a c L and eighteen. So he misses

506
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: that season. I thought it was it took a little

507
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: bit while for him to get going, although there were

508
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: some splash players in the Texas game early in the season.

509
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: But I thought he was one of those guys. The

510
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: more you more you saw him go through the year, Buck,

511
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: I thought you saw a more confident player. Um, you

512
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: got in the playoffs. I remember which which playoff game

513
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: it was. He was a semi final or the championship game. Um,

514
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: go back and find my notes. But but he had

515
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: some big time, big time plays in that game. I

516
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: just look at him and say, Okay, this guy's got size, length,

517
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: he's got incredible twitch, and he plays hard. We'll figure

518
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: out the rest. Um, that's a heck of a platform

519
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: to build off of. It is a heck of a

520
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: platform to build off of. I I just kind of

521
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: skew more towards I like to have a definitive plan

522
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: for how we're gonna use him. Look, he he's fast

523
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: and athletic enough that you can't stand him up making

524
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: a running chase linebacker. Maybe he can play even off

525
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: the ball and do some of those things. Um, I

526
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: do want worry about the side and I'm gonna lie.

527
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: I know I'm not supposed to scout the helmet, but man,

528
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: I just have these bad visions and dreams of Barkadias Mingo,

529
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: who didn't necessarily have the same kind of snap, but

530
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I just kind of worried about him in the same regard.

531
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: I would like to see chasing Flash and showed he

532
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: can dominant. He won't have an opportunity to do that

533
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: before the draft, but it's just one of those things

534
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: where I want to tap into his mindset and see

535
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: how he's built, how he's wired, and what are his

536
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: goals at the next level. Yeah, I'm just kind of

537
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: going through some of my notes here. Uh, stand up

538
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Rusher long, athletic, explosive, he wins on get off, and

539
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: a a more than technique. Um he can stack or

540
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: penetrate versus the run, which is some things that I

541
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: liked it. But I thought he was a lot more

542
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: stout at the point of attack than a guy like Mingo.

543
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: I thought Mingo absolutely had to play off the ball.

544
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I think this kid can play on the ball. Yeah,

545
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: to be interested, I know he's gonna blow it up.

546
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the buzz at a combine after he

547
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of runs and DAWs was everyone another guy who

548
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: has gotten some buzz too. Real Lewis from Alabama. We

549
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: had talked to him a few times. To talk to

550
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: him on the podcast. He gave good insight as to

551
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: what his mindset was head into his final season, and

552
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: he didn't deliver from a production standpoint. But if you

553
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: go back a couple of years, Uh, por like he

554
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: he definitely flashes. He definitely shows some things. And so

555
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: if you can get past the durability and the injury issues.

556
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: I like the athleticism. I think he's kind of bendy,

557
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: the way he turns the corner. I like his quickness

558
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: because he was explosive off the ball um and he's

559
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: just long and ranging. Uh. There's always a place in

560
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: the league for those that are like that. Just needs

561
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: to elevate himself. No, you know, he's uh, he's he's

562
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: raw man, and I wanted to see a little bit

563
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: more at the Senior Bowl. I think Buck, when it's

564
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: all said and done, he's probably bottom to top of

565
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: three would be my guests of kind of the range

566
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: of where he ends up going. I think that you know,

567
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: comparing him with Jason, I think Jason just did a

568
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: little more polish at this point. Both guys are upside

569
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: plays though you're drafting him, you know what they can be.

570
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: More so necessarily what they are right now, you know.

571
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: I think I think for both of those guys, I

572
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: think that's a very very valid point. All right, what's

573
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: your last one here? Uh? Curtis Weaver. Curtis Weaver, Man,

574
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: I gott I've gotten some backs. I got even got

575
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: some text from some of the boys on the road, like, man,

576
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: what are you doing? But then when I look at

577
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: this guy, when I when I when I look at

578
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: when I look at Weaver, I think the thing where

579
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm attracted to is like, I think he's a football player,

580
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: and I think when when you put up the air

581
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: quotes around football player meaning, I think his combination of instincts, athleticism,

582
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: awareness enables him to have a sustainable amount of production

583
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: that will work in the league. Um. I know he's

584
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of a squatty body, a unique body on the outside,

585
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: but look, man, his cat like quickness. He's explosive first step,

586
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: terrific closing verse. He's a finisher. I just see play

587
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: after play. Game after game he gobbles up quarterbacks from

588
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: the back side. That says something. And then when you

589
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: look up and he has thirty or four sacks in

590
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: three seasons. He's the Mountain West Conference all time leader.

591
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes used to hold that record. Um, I just

592
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said for his sustainable level

593
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: to play as a collegian. I just think it translates

594
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 1: ver very well to the league. He's got a lot

595
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: of wiggle. Um, he's really good at the top of

596
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: his rush. He you know, I don't think he has

597
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: a big time, big time get off, but he's a

598
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: skilled rusher. It's just it's just odd because body type wise,

599
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: there's no I don't I can't find a comparison, you know. Um,

600
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I'm not I'm not trying

601
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: to be a jerk. It just when you watch like

602
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: the when I watched him, I was like, it looks

603
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: like rerun, like rushing the quarterback off. I mean, this

604
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: is a weird look. It's totally different. It's a bad

605
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: builds it's not it's not a it's not a great look.

606
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't By the way, do we date

607
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: ourselves with I probably dated myself a little bit with

608
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: that reference what's happening? What's happening? Maybe? But look, man,

609
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: he's dynamic. I think he comes down to this. I

610
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: think it comes down to are you are you grading

611
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: the performance on tape? Are you grading the physical specimen

612
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: that walks through the door, Because great a specimen. Uh,

613
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be impressive. But if you look at

614
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: the tape and you're had to get comfortable with the

615
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: way that he kind of owns it on the outside. Look,

616
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: I I don't see why it would work with him.

617
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with him any other uh edge guys,

618
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: you want to kind of highlight here, let me go through. Uh,

619
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I mean Bradley and I you know it's gonna be

620
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: a big comment for him out of Utah because he's

621
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: such a good football player, had a dominant senior Bowl.

622
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: The question is just kind of pure athleticism. So how

623
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: does he test? What does he look like? They're I

624
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: think will will be pretty important for him because man,

625
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: the tape is really really good. Yeah, the tape tape

626
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: is awesome. He plays hard man, he plays like a

627
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: grown man. I love the way he plays off the edge. Uh.

628
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: There are a couple of guys that have kind of

629
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: become my guys in terms of what I like. I

630
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: love him. And then there's a guy we'll talk about

631
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Zack Vaughan, who showed up at the Senior Bowl.

632
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: I love the way that he plays on tape. I

633
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: just like seeing guys play with effort and energy and

634
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: find a way to consistently get some big some big moments,

635
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: some splash plays and just rough the plays. Um. I

636
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: think he certainly does that, probably and not the two

637
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: the two guys that were not in my fifty last

638
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: time that will more than likely be in the update

639
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: that's coming out. Grossmadows who we mentioned already, but Jonathan

640
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Greener to me from Florida. I did him after the

641
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: first Top fifty came out. He would have definitely been

642
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: in my top fifty last time. I love the way

643
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: that kid can bend and move. Um. He is a great,

644
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: great edge rusher, stand up. He's athletic enough. You can

645
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: drop him do some different things with him from Florida,

646
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: but he's a he's a good football player. Yeah, man,

647
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: I thought I had no did open here trying to

648
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: get to him Uh, I did like him. It was

649
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: funny because there's one one of the guys from Florida

650
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: other past Russia that I didn't like, Yeah, Zuniga. Zunige

651
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: wasn't he's a good player. Yeah, yeah, I was. I

652
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: wasn't in love with him as much. Um. So, it's

653
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: interesting because I don't know where to put this guy.

654
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: But Lynch h James Lynch from Baylor, James Lynch for Baylor. Yeah, yeah,

655
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: he's good man, He's a good I put him as

656
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: I put it. He plays on the edge, but I

657
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: put him as an interior guy. Yeah. So I looked

658
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: at him on Worker B I love the effort energy.

659
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was a technician, very skilled with his hands.

660
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: I thought he had really good strength and power or

661
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: bulldozes blockers at the point of attack. Um. I said, look, man,

662
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I think these guys underrated. Rock solid. I get him

663
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: a pretty solid grade. Um. Second, I got the same

664
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: grade on him as I have on Jordan Elliott. Yeah.

665
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh cool, same thing, both of them exactly the same.

666
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: In my book, I had the exact same grade on

667
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: both of those guys. Yep. Um So we'll see, uh,

668
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: we'll see what ends up shaking out there. All right,

669
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: let's keep the train moving here. Let's just go to

670
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: some talk about some of these linebackers before we get

671
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: to the deep. Yeah, let's just talk about Isaiah s,

672
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: m Zack Bond, Kenneth Murray from Oklahoma, Patrick Queen from

673
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: l s U. I saw your tweet, and a chem

674
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Davis Gay there from Appalachian State. Um, this was easy

675
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: for me with the first guy, Isaiah S. Him is man.

676
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: You just look just handing the card. UH. The reason

677
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: you do that because he's so athletics, so explosive. Sideline.

678
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: The sideline chase ability has tremendous versatility, whether it's out

679
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: of safety or just kind of moving all around. The

680
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: one thing I will say about that when a guy

681
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: is this versa and this athletic, UH coaches tend to

682
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: want to like skintam on campus, then we'll figured out.

683
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: I would encourage everyone in the building. Hey, let's have

684
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: a plan for him in place right now. Um, who

685
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: gets him on the first day, who gives him sick? Like,

686
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: have it all in place for him and then you know,

687
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: find a way to kind of get him going and

688
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: get him going early in his career. I just don't

689
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: want to see people waste his talents by trying to

690
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: have him do too much. He's fun, man, He's a

691
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: He's just a rare talent with everything he can do,

692
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean literally and play a linebacker. He'll play in

693
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: the slot, he'll play the post um. He's got instincts,

694
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: he's got incredible burst when I look for knocks. The

695
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: one thing I could say is he's not great taking

696
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: on on the edge. But I'm not gonna ask him

697
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: to do that anyways again every time. Yeah, And I

698
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: just from an experimental standpoint, and I know the Chargers

699
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: have need at quarterback and it looks like that's probably

700
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: the direction that they would lean. But man, Buck, I

701
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: just I would love to see Gus Bradley with a

702
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: chance to have Derwin James Um along with Isaiah Simmons

703
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: and just these two chess pieces and you could even

704
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: you could even keep you know, your your third safety

705
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: out of there on the field if you want um.

706
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: But that's that's all three of those guys. I think

707
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: I think that just that would be Ah, what a

708
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: what a lab that would be? Well, I think there's

709
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: something to that, right, So dj Um a couple of

710
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: years ago when they stop Baltimore. They kind of played

711
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: with that that dime look, that three safety look or whatever.

712
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah Sims is unique because you can list him as

713
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: a safety, but he's played linebacker. The same thing with

714
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Durban James. To have two guys who are kind of

715
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: interchangeable in the back end. Uh. You talk about the

716
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: flexibility of being able to just change your blitz packages

717
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: without really changing anything, just changing a Isaiah you're on.

718
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Uh during your back durwing, you're on, Isaiah you may

719
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: be back it just man, just it would be a

720
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And I know that defense isn't one

721
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: that has a lot of exotic nature to it, but

722
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: I think any defensive coordinator can have fun with these

723
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: kind of these kind of players kind of moving around.

724
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I just think you have to have a very very

725
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: clear plan and communicate to him very early with He's

726
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: a he's a rare special player. Um he mentioned Bond.

727
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: I think he talked about him a little bit already.

728
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Buck what everything he can do? When we talk about

729
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: some of the edgdressers, Yeah, like what about what about Murray?

730
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Let's get to Murray? So, man, Murray is a tough

731
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: one for me A little bit djuh. I like the

732
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: athleticism to quickness. Uh. He was a sideline to sideline player.

733
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: I thought he was a pretty good blitzer. He was instinctive,

734
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: good cover skills, good eyes and reactions and saying all that, though,

735
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: I still don't know if he's one of those like

736
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: top top premier talents like okay, when we talked about

737
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: like a Devin White or Devin Bush. I don't see

738
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: him in the same category. I don't see him stepping

739
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: into the league and making an immediate impact like that.

740
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I think he can come in and start. I think

741
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: he can make some contributions, but I didn't necessarily see

742
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: a disruptive player, a splash player, a dominant playmaker at

743
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: the position. Yeah. I think he's a really good player, man.

744
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: I just I don't think my thing is just some

745
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: of the instincts inside. I don't. I don't put him

746
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: on that same level as those guys we saw going

747
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: the top you know, ten, top fifteen. But I think

748
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: he's a first round player, and to me, he's off

749
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: the ball, running hit. I like to get him outside

750
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the box where he can see everything clearly, and then

751
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: he can use that big time speed to burst and

752
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: clothes and make plays there. Um, just kind of sorting

753
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: through some of that trash inside. I didn't love that

754
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: about him. Um, you know, not a uh you know,

755
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: not a great take on player, but man, he can run, cover,

756
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: and blitz and that's that's a lot of the things

757
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you want to linebacker. Today, he's gonna torch the comment

758
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I'll be shocked if he doesn't test outstanding. Yeah, he's

759
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: gonna test outstanding. Look, I can't close because I'm gonna

760
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: talk about you guy from map State, but I want

761
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you to talk about Patrick Queen because you tweeted about him,

762
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 1: uh last night, yesterday, this morning, whenever it is. What

763
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: what did you like about him? What was what was captivating? Well,

764
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. I did him a while ago.

765
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: But again, you're doing other players and you see them

766
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: pop when you're watching other guys, and and Bucky just

767
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: every time you watch him. Now, this guy wasn't even

768
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: starting at the beginning of the year. He's my sixteenth

769
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: overall player. Um, he's just got incredible, uh, change of direction, twitch,

770
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: the ability to cover, man cover instincts. He has a

771
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: pick against Alabama where he just reads to undercuts it

772
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: and picks it. Um, he's Uh, there's a play against

773
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: and M where he he flatbacks the guard Buck and

774
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: this is a big SEC guard and this is little

775
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen's not a big guy and just blows right

776
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: through him. He's high tempo and and I I love this.

777
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: We've talked about this. I think we talked about it

778
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: more last year than we have this year. But it's

779
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of from our buddy John Gordon. Uh, I want

780
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: energy guys, man, who are the spark plug guys? Who

781
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: are the energy guys who gets everything fired up? Who

782
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: gets everything rolling, who gets everything going? Um? I think

783
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: you saw last year from the Super Bowl champs. Look

784
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: at the energy that Tyrone Matthew brought to that chief defense. Um.

785
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Look at what Darius Leonard brought with the way he

786
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: plays for the Colts defense over the last couple of years.

787
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: I've seen it with Derwin James. What he brings. Uh,

788
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: this to me is that type of a guy. He's

789
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: a he's a fire starter. Um. And so that's why

790
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I love his game. And I posted that play the

791
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: other day just to show he blitz is he gets

792
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: na and I don't know how he keeps his feet

793
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: Buck against I think it was Georgia and spends off

794
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: of it without touching the ground and ends up picking

795
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: up a sack on Jake from it. Just was another

796
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: example of just this a special kid, look very very

797
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: very special. UM. A little concerned because he didn't play

798
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: as a full time starter, but the athletic traits and

799
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: the the explosive nous and you talk about the energy

800
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: that he brings to the team that it's very intriguing

801
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons why he's going to

802
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: be a top pick because when we talk about the

803
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: way the game is changing and evolving, your linebackers have

804
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: to be solid, even better than solid and coverage, and

805
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: they have to have speed. He has both of those things. Yeah,

806
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: And I think if you go back through and I

807
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: know you were talking about being concerned about having kind

808
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: of a barkbious mingo wound with edge rush from l

809
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: s U, you know, wound for linebackers, buddy, because there

810
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: has been one after another after another after another, and

811
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: and some of those guys to kind of go off of,

812
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a Johnny comp lately didn't start,

813
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: didn't play that much. Um. I mean there was Kwan Alexander.

814
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: I want to say, was Kuan Alexander one of those

815
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: guys that Deon Jones quin Alexander one of those guys

816
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: didn't even really get a lot of burn until his

817
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: last year as a full time starter because there is

818
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: a long line of linebackers that place. Yeah, I think

819
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: is Dean Jones. Uh didn't get all of it, but

820
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: like that's kind of the thing, like you wait your year,

821
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: you have a one year audition and you go to

822
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: the league, and that's what they've been able to do. Um,

823
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: I think it's interested in the next guy a team.

824
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Davis Gaither from app State, Uh, we've talked about it. It

825
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: It seems like everybody that we've mentioned at the second

826
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: level speed speed, speed, explosive athlete, very very good speed,

827
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: quickness and burst. Loved his instincts and reactions. Back to

828
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: back years we had over a hundred uh tackles. He

829
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: is just all over the field and when you when

830
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: you popped him and you're looking at their team, you

831
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of distracted because he makes so many plays. He

832
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: just runs around, He's all over the place. Good player, man,

833
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: just a really really good player. Yeah, he gets to

834
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: come off the edge a lot they'll also use him

835
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: out over the slot. Very versatile. Um. He's a really

836
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: really he's just really rangey. Man. When you watch him

837
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: against the past and even a it's the run backside plays. Um.

838
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: You know, as a as a blitzer with a runway. Um,

839
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: he's a problem for running backs man, because he's plays

840
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: with his hair on fire. He'll run right through you. Um.

841
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of the way he played. Especially

842
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: that South Carolina game was was a big time. He's

843
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: he's a really good player. I think probably the third

844
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: round is probably his sweet spot. You know, maybe could

845
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: sneak into two, uh, maybe fall to four, but I

846
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: think the third round is right where he goes. Yeah,

847
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's it. I think that's

848
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: that's a nice a nice landing spotform. And I think

849
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: that's where you just start CND athleticism to speed. You'll

850
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: see all of those highway speed guys go. He's a

851
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: good player, runs around, makes makes a ton of plays

852
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, a nice career at stay all right. A

853
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: couple of the guys I want to mention here, Uh,

854
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: Logan Wilson from Miami or from Wyoming is a really

855
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: really good player. Six to two forty pounds. You talk

856
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: about the ability to cover um. He's outstanding in coverage.

857
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a second round pick when

858
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. U Malik Harrison. I gave

859
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: the same grade to him from Ohio State. Buck. These

860
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: guys are both six two plus two forty plus and

861
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: they can both cover um, which is to me, it's

862
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: pretty darn impressive. Yeah, very impressive. It's it's just hard

863
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: to find guys that can kind of check out the

864
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: boxes hid and running cover. It seems so simple, but

865
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: it is very very challenging and difficult to do when

866
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: these guys are not necessarily playing on railroad tracks. They

867
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: they're dealing with these guys that can move and get

868
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff out. But I look, I get it,

869
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: I understand it. It's a it's just an interesting phenomenon,

870
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: interesting phenomena looking at all the sling. All right, let's

871
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: get let's get through the secondary. Here, here we go,

872
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: let's go through it quickly. Jeffrey Akuta, Trevon Diggs, Christian Fulton, C. J.

873
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Henderson from Florida, Cameron Danzler from Mississippi State. We've talked

874
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: about Akuta on multiple occasions. I kind of see him

875
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: like a Stefan Diggs type player, just rock solid. Uh,

876
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs is the one that I don't want to

877
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: spend a little more time on long range e Uh,

878
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: I got it was a big time where receiver recruit

879
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: in high school has all he played the position maybe

880
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: two a little over two years. Uh, he just gets

881
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: it though. He challenges guys. He can play off, he

882
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: can play with technique. He has the ability to walk

883
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: up and press. We won't see him press much this year,

884
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: but he can do all those things. It's just they

885
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: just hadn't been able to just necessarily, like I mean,

886
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's just he's just the next one, uh,

887
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: to fall in line. He's the next one coming out

888
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: of Alabama. I just wonder if he's going to pop

889
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: when other guys haven't. Yeah, he's to me compwise, he's

890
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: keep to Leave is who he reminds me of. You know,

891
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: keep to Leave didn't blow up the forty. That's not

892
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: who he is, but that he's just a big long

893
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: with with outstanding ball skills and instincts. And I just

894
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: think he's a you know the Seattle scheme. Um you

895
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: look at that that where that is around the league

896
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: right now with a handful of teams. Um, they're gonna

897
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: cover it the way he plays because you can sit

898
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: there and play cover three with him all day long.

899
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: Let him just make play after play after play. Yeah,

900
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: the good player, good player that the guy didn't want

901
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: to go to. And Lance has had a little bit

902
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: of a love affair with a Cameron Danceler. I'm now

903
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: officially on board with that. I like him, man, the

904
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: more I watched him play, the more I really like him.

905
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I like to land. I know he's a little slender

906
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: and skinny for some team's taste, but he is competitive.

907
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't back down. He makes plays, he'll make tackles. Um,

908
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: he's wired the right way. Uh a little bit kind

909
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: of reminds me he's taller than but J. Davis White

910
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: was very similar to that in my estimation in terms

911
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: of how you played, just kind of solid, Uh, did

912
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: things the right way. I think Danzler does that. He's

913
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: just a little bigger, just a little a little bigger package. Yeah,

914
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: he's still on my He's still on my circle backlist. So. Um,

915
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: I did a couple of games early on him in

916
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 1: the process, and I'm trying to crank through to finish

917
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: up all these guys for the combine. So I probably

918
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: will circle back on him after the combine because I

919
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: just watched Lafayette in Southern miss um with a couple

920
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: of early games, and Um, I saw the movement buck Um.

921
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: I thought there was a couple of bad habits that

922
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I thought he could clean up, including just kind of

923
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: his feet widening and press, which is just kind of

924
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: a pet peeve where guys can get off off kilter

925
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: a little bit there at the Wine of Strammage. But

926
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: he's very fluid um, and I thought he was plenty

927
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: fast enough, so I gonna go back after we get

928
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: through the combine. He's a circle back guy from me. Yeah,

929
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: good players. Let's move to the safeties. Safeties, UHL, hold

930
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: on before we move to say, any other cornerbacks that

931
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a target like, because this

932
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: is a pretty deep, pretty deep class. There's a J.

933
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: Trell from Clemson. Uh We heard people talk about him.

934
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a little handsy, grabs and clutches

935
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he has some talent. You can

936
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: deny the athleticism he can run. Um, I just would

937
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: like to see him be a little more polishy and

938
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: refined before we decided to come out. Yeah, I still

939
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: like him. I think he's a good player. Man. He's

940
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: he's he's tall, lean, He can play a variety of techniques,

941
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: which is nice. Um he's got vertical speed. I thought

942
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: he was a little bit sticky. We had a gear

943
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: down to come back downhill. He's an outstanding blitzer. I

944
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: think the toughness is there. I think you've got a

945
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: lot of things you can work with. Um the the

946
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: other guy, I want to just mention here because there's

947
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: a lot of heat and a lot of buzz on

948
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: the Auburn corner. And that's Noah, it's been I don't

949
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: even gonna try the last name you. I don't have

950
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 1: the pronunciation in front of me. But he former track

951
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: guy was a wide receiver there end up moving to corner.

952
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: No interceptions this year, Buck. But he plays inside outside.

953
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: He is he is unbelievably twitched up. He is gonna

954
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: test like a freak. He's obviously got the track background.

955
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna see that. Um. I just the guy is

956
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: always in phase, which is you know. In scouting we

957
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: talked about being in phase, always being in the right position,

958
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: not not giving up any separation. He just struggled to

959
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: play the ball man, and against L s U and Alabama,

960
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: which are big time, big time wide receivers. Um, he

961
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: struggled a little bit finding the football even though he

962
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: was in pretty darn good position. And that just that

963
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: to me is a that is I don't know if

964
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: the unforgivable sin for corners that can't find the ball, well,

965
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if that can be developed to talk uh,

966
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: some people just kind of have it. Uh. He may

967
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: get better and being able to create uh breakdowns and

968
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: knock aways. I don't know if you will ever be

969
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: at a point where he can uh be a natural interceptive.

970
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: So he may end up with three or four picks

971
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: on the year, but it may just be because the

972
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: boy hit him dead in the chest. I don't if

973
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: he's a go get a play maker, um, and so

974
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: that that makes it tough. But when you take a

975
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: track athlete and a former wide receiver, if he's fast,

976
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: twisted up, and tough enough, he's gonna get a chance.

977
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: So he may go higher than most people imagine he's

978
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna go. He's gonna go high man, and

979
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of looking at your list, I think C. J. Henderson,

980
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna put on a show from Florida. You have

981
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: him as the fourth guy, I think when it's all

982
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: said and done, but in terms of when they go,

983
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the second corner. I'll be very surprised

984
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: if he doesn't end up being a second corner to

985
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: get picked because it was just his his tools. Man,

986
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: he is a terrible tackler and that's my only concern

987
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: with him. But man, that dude can move and uh

988
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: he is fluid and fast and he can't find the

989
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: ball down the field. Yeah, I mean he look he

990
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: he can't move. He he's super athletic. He he does

991
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: a great job. He's been down there in the swamp

992
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of getting it done. So this is a year

993
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: where I don't know how many of those guys deserved

994
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: what we call those marquee grays outside of Okuda, But

995
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: I do believe when we talk about kind of like

996
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: that middle section from twenty five to forty, I think

997
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: we'll see a number of corner should name go last

998
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: one that I just want to mention here because he's

999
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: just a fun player and Lance was on him early

1000
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: uh Meek Robertson. Actually, our buddy Rhett who did some

1001
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech games, was on him early fourteen career interceptions.

1002
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna be under five nine, he's gonna be an

1003
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. He's I'm hoping he runs in the

1004
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: four fives buck He's not gonna be real fast. But

1005
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: this guy is like a mini He's like a knockoff

1006
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: version of pac Man. That's who he is. Who is

1007
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: just unbelievably instinctive. There is no hesitation, no pause in

1008
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: his play. He's he's an off coverage. He will pull

1009
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: the trigger and go make plays, big hits. He's he's

1010
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: played outside and inside. He's gonna be a nickel. That's

1011
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: what he is obviously at that size. But there's a

1012
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 1: play against Texas Colin Johnson, that six ft six wide

1013
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: receiver and here's this five eight corner that's walked up

1014
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: on this six six receiver bucket. He choked him. He

1015
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: absolutely choked him at the line of scrimmage. I was like,

1016
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: whoa two hand jam and he didn't go anywhere. Look

1017
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: like that. When you when you talk about these smaller guys,

1018
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: are they feisty. Are they physical? Are they compe editive?

1019
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: With a challenge the bigger guys on the perimeter. He

1020
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: does that and he does it in a very physical fashion.

1021
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: The fact that he has fourteen interceptions that is a

1022
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: big selling point for me, because if you're going to

1023
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: be a great turnover machine in the league, you gotta

1024
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: show me that you can make turnovers in college. He

1025
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: can do that. I would say, ignore the forty times

1026
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: that he puts out. Focus more on the effort and

1027
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: the production and performers that he put on tape, and

1028
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I think you'll walk away and press. We've seen this

1029
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: happen numerous times where people elected go for the more

1030
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: explosive athletes. It's one of the reasons why Honey Badger

1031
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: Field is another reason why Chris Harris was an undrafted guy.

1032
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: Look at the guys that play really well on tape,

1033
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: because he is one of the best players on tape

1034
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: that will find in terms of playing a position and

1035
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: understanding where he kind of fits in the defense. All right,

1036
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: roll through your safeties. Here what we got safety Xavier McKinney.

1037
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit from l s u Aston Davis, who we

1038
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: talked to on the podcast from cal cal Dugger from

1039
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Lenore Round and Antoine Wingfield Jr. From many Apolis from Minnesota.

1040
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: So Zavie McKinney is the top guy for me. He's

1041
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: a Vickinny is there because I think he's a box

1042
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: eightey with instincts awareness. He can get everyone lined up,

1043
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: a guy who is a playmaker against a run. Don't

1044
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: really know what he would do against the pass if

1045
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: they pass him up and he has to take a

1046
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: ring jo. I don't know um kind of where he

1047
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: fits in that, but I think he can drop down

1048
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: into boss. He can do some very creative things. You

1049
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: want to make sure you maximize and use his blitzing

1050
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: ability off the edge. X Man has a lot of

1051
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: intriguing tools. I just don't think he's a guy that

1052
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: you can put at the top of the Christmas tree

1053
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: and make him and and depend on him to be

1054
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: able to make consistent plays from the middle. Yeah. Look,

1055
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: he he plays some nickelbacker. He's outstanding communicator. They rape

1056
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: about his intelligence, Um underneath range buck, I think that's

1057
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: where he is best suited. But I go back to

1058
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Speaker 1: uh something that that we had a scout school in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore with somebody that comes from New England and did

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Speaker 1: a presentation on safeties and Bill Belichick kind of like

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's rules on safeties. And number one on the list,

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Speaker 1: Buck you cannot play with dumb safeties. You can't. You

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Speaker 1: cannot play at a high level in your defense with

1064
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: dumb safeties. And Xavier McKinney and Del Pit right there

1065
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Speaker 1: at the top, obviously Ashton Davis and we've talked to

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Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger and I'm sure Winfield based off his his

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Speaker 1: heritage there with his dad. All these guys on your

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Speaker 1: list are all highly intelligent football players, which bodes well

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Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, look it, it's it's a huge part

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Speaker 1: of the position because I really yea in US and

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Speaker 1: people talk about the mic linebacker, but the safety. One

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Speaker 1: of those safeties, he free or strong, is the communicator.

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Speaker 1: He is the traffic cop. He's the quarterback of the defense.

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Speaker 1: And in a perfect world, you have a free safety

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Speaker 1: that assists in the middle and he's able to get

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Speaker 1: everyone right because he has full vision. Um. So when

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Speaker 1: we talk about the importance of having high i Q

1078
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Speaker 1: great instincts, that's the difference between in my estimation, the

1079
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Speaker 1: good ones and the great ones. The gray ones, combining

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Speaker 1: great physical ability with exceptional intangibles and football character. I

1081
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Speaker 1: think all of these guys have that football character. Some

1082
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Speaker 1: of these guys are just missing a little piece here

1083
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Speaker 1: there that kind of prevents you from putting a big

1084
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Speaker 1: grade on them. Yeah, and I've got, uh, that's what

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Speaker 1: I've got left to finish up here with some safety.

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Speaker 1: So I have not seen Winfield yet, but I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on these on the order of these other

1088
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Speaker 1: guys I've got, I think I have dugger one spot

1089
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Speaker 1: over Ashton Davis, but they're they're real close to each other.

1090
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Speaker 1: But those guys are right there and they're all rocket players.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to watching Winfield. Yeah, a lot of good

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Speaker 1: players may really excited to combine is load. We talked

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Speaker 1: about the draft class. We talked about the depth of

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Speaker 1: this class. There are a lot of good football players

1095
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Speaker 1: and other some years we oversee that because it's also

1096
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Speaker 1: a TV show, But not this year. That some really

1097
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Speaker 1: good players in this draft. No, it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. I hope you guys have enjoyed our little

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Speaker 1: previews here. Uh, offensive line, I guess is the one

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Speaker 1: position we didn't really hone in on offensive line maybe

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Speaker 1: tight ends, but it is a deep group of offensive

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Speaker 1: linement and tight ends. Trust me, you're gonna want to

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Speaker 1: tune in to see those guys. Try to give you

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a feel here for some of

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Speaker 1: these other positions over these episodes. So uh um, oh

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Speaker 1: wait a Nobile, are we gonna release Are we doing

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Speaker 1: a tight end in uh old line preview the Combine? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We will next week on Tuesday. I'm pretty sure. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: there we're not We're not leaving it out then. I

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Speaker 1: was just trying to think of the schedule here, and

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Speaker 1: I guess we are going to squeeze in one more

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Speaker 1: Combine preview here. Anything else you want to add before

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Speaker 1: we get at here? No, I men, this is great man.

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Speaker 1: I just love talking about these guys. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm almost ready a couple more guys to put some

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Speaker 1: notes on, almost ready for the Combine. Yeah we're almost there, buddy.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys so much for listening. To

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys leaving us leaving us some of those

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Speaker 1: reviews on Apple podcasts as well. Uh those do help

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Speaker 1: spread the word, And if you have questions for us,

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Speaker 1: you can drop them in the review there and we

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Speaker 1: will eventually get to him, we promise. But that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us today. Thanks to the Bill for

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Speaker 1: producing uh. Great to be with with Bucky. As always,

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Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time right here on. Move the sticks.

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Speaker 1: You are not God. The TOMT