1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: M the Around the League Podcast underwent unsuccessful orthoscopic surgery. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: My name is Dan hans Des. I'm joined by a 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: What up, boys, You've got the order correct today? Think? Hey, 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: what's up? Yeah? The order is correct. I know that 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: people got uncomfortable when I mixed it up, But now 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: where every everybody's name is in the proper place and 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: we're in a really good spot. It's Friday t G. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: I A also in a good spot. The Cleveland Browns, 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned they could be all by themselves 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: in first place if the Bengals lose very losable game 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: to the Patriots. If the Steelers lose, the Browns could 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: be in first place by themselves for the first time 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: since Week four of two thousand two. How do you feel, Mark, Well, also, 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: though you know, Cleveland can never really have now things 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: and so the wind comes with losing your quarterback for 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Yes, okay, obviously that was 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: bittersweeten it was also so Brown's. But let's focus on 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the positives here. Mark. I have known you for like 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: three and a half years. I don't think I've ever 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: been around you when the Browns have won three games 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: in a row, and judging by my text messages last night, 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: which read like a fever dream from uh, this game 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: ran ran the emotional gamut for you. It did. I 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: just felt Listen. You know, you can pick apart what 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: they did or didn't do. It was one I just 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: watched as a fan last night, and I desperately wanted 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: them to win that game. I mean, I I don't 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: think I've felt that way in a long time. And 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: I think that the stadium had a sense to it, 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: to where the that fan base has been asleep because 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: they've been put to sleep by that organization. There was 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: some sense of excitement. Yeah, they lost Toyer, and I'm 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: not sure what happens from here on out, but I 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: wanted them to win it. That's all I cared about. 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I didn't care how it got done. And it got done, 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: how about Jim Brown put it best? Just keep that 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: spirit that you have. It's fantastic. I love it, the 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: town loves it, everybody loves it. You got him singing now, 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: I love that old answer. You know. We talked to 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: him over the summer, and He'm not surprised to see 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: that come out of his mouth because he's he got 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: some quips. Doesn't move too fast no more. But I'll 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: tell you what, the guy's still sharp. And when you 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: could drop those lines, you know he's a legend. He's 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: a living legend. That's all. It mattered that this was 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: on National TV two, doesn't it When you're a Browns 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: fan you're not on too much? It does feel bigger well, 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: and we're all you know, the Browns are only put 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: on because the league has to put every team. That's 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: really the only reason they were Like came and I 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: watched in a big room full of people, and it 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: was like, obviously people haven't watched the Browns in years, 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: and who is this? Who is this team? People doing? People? 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Can you fit in your dungeon? It wasn't not my house. 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't that my house. Chris and I were talking 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: about this after the game. I was wondering how you'd 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: feel because from our perspective, we thought Browns fans must 60 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: not really be enjoying this that much because Hoyer, it 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: looks like has a serious injury and I feel like 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: the ceiling of this team is much lower without Hoyer, 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem to have diminished the excitement too much. Well, 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean really, I think that no matter what happened 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: this season, it seems like their their goal was to 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: go get a quarterback in May and and maybe in 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a way, uh you know, Hoyer having a big year 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: or something like that would have muddied the waters there 69 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: a little bit. I wonder if long term it's it's 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: crystal clear point, I think, because yeah, if he would 71 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: have come in and delivered a three touchdown season and 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: was decent and led them to eight wins, they could 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: have ended up sitting on him, and that could ultimately 74 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: be And that's exactly the last time Chud was in Cleveland. 75 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: That's what they did with Derek Anderson after that one 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: deal with the devil season, and they signed me to 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: a big contract. They keep everyone around for three more 78 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: years and it completely crumbled. So I still think the 79 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: team needs to start over a quarterback wise in the draft. 80 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: I changed my answer since last night on this one. 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm so down on weeding. That had had me thinking 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: that Browns Pans Browns fans couldn't possibly be excited. But 83 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: from what I've seen from the defense and Jordan Cameron 84 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: and Josh Gordon in particular, there are enough bright spots 85 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: on this team where you can feel like, hey, we're 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: building something, and if we do get a quarterback in May, 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: we've we've got a chance to take control of this division. 88 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: And if and maybe we didn't been in there, they 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: don't win quite as many games, they get a better 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: draft pick. Maybe it's not the worst thing in the world. 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: You know. The bigger news in that game I thought, 92 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: or just as big was EJ. Manuel going out, And 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: we learned today he has an LCL sprain and they 94 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: couldn't run offense when Jeff Toole was in there, And 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: so it sounds like Manuel is going to be out 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a few weeks. You knew that was coming with Tool yesterday. Um, 97 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, he clearly isn't ready to be playing at 98 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: this level, especially games that are close in the fourth quarter. 99 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: So this manual injury is very bad news for the 100 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: Bills obviously, because do you can you envision a situation 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: where Jeff Toole is leading the Bills to victories and 102 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: then during October, right, I think this is our latest 103 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: remind or that the preseason means absolutely nothing, because he 104 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: looked good in the preseason facing third string defenses. Brandon, 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: we didn't do Brandon. Do you know these pressings doesn't 106 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: really matter in the preseason because you're not getting rushed 107 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: by third string defenders like that. Dan picked the Browns 108 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: to go nine and seven exclusively based on Brandon Waden's 109 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: preseason also the heart of Chud who I picked this 110 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: coach of the year and that that's about five wins 111 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: away from happening. Now. The Bills have the Bengals and 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in the next two weeks, the Saints in 113 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: New Orleans after that, so those are some tough defenses. 114 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Do we do they go get Josh Freeman. I would 115 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: put a chance of Buffalo going and doing that over 116 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: Cleveland right now, because I think you've literally gotten nothing 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: at quarterback if you're Buffalo, and right at the point 118 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: of the season where Doug Maron's first campaign could run 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: off the rails if they don't have something solid. But 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: what about Josh Freeman. I mean, it's not like you 121 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: could sign him off the street and he's your start 122 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: next week. By the time he'd be ready to go, 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: Manuel will be probably back in the lineup now, you 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: could play him over Jeff Tool. It's not like we 125 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen guys Son. We saw Vinny test of Eardi 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: at age forty four, signed off his couch and came 127 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: in and started for the Panthers, and Genius you couldn't 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: start over. We don't recognize him. Chemistry layout this. Actually, 129 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: we had a discussion last night who are the worst 130 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks that we've ever seen? Because we were wondering 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: if Tool would be that guy. I came up with 132 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: Cody Pickett was mine, West had some good had Brian 133 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: st Pierre, various various iterations of Chris Winky, Tyler Palco, 134 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Hipple er hip Ken Dorsey, the Tyler Palco express. I 135 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: will never forget that hit those wounded ducks throwing might 136 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: have might have the weakest arm I've ever seen on 137 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: a football. Spurgeon Win was no his name came up. 138 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: No one remembers Cody Pickett. But that forty Niners team 139 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: where they ran out pick It Dorsey and I think 140 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: pick It was the fifth string guy and just they 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: all kept getting injured. Was the worst NFL team. By 142 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: the way, if John Beck is listening to this, he's 143 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: just been holding his breath less Congratu Johnson Channahan's personal 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Who was the other guy? The card 145 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Max Hall? That was all right? So let's get into 146 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: Week five. The rest of the Week five anyway. We 147 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: have fourteen games this week, as we do every week, 148 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: we'll start out by spotlighting four games that attract this 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: for one reason or the other. And uh, why don't 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: we started off with Mark Sessler. I am taking a 151 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: look at Denver Dallas, and you know, I look, I 152 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: look at this Broncos team, and at what point are 153 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: we going to just realize? You know, they're fascinating to 154 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: watch because of how dynamic they're on offense. But will 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: any of these games be close? This is a perfect 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: opportunity for a Dallas team that I a couple of 157 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: weeks ago predicted but essentially win the NFC East at 158 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: eight and eight. I don't understand how they have a 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: chance in this game, but what a chance it would 160 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: be for Tony Romo to pull off a classic upset. 161 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't see what happening, though. I absolutely think they 162 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: have a chance. I think the Broncos are the best 163 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: team in the NFL, but Dallas is not a bad team. 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I think they're a very good team, and you know this, 165 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: this could be a lot closer than people think. I'm 166 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: not sure what to think about their defense though, because 167 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: at times they look really impressive rushing the passer, but 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: they gave up five hundred yards last week in San Diego. 169 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: They did not really play well other than the turnovers 170 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: in Week one. Morris Claiborne is a problem for them 171 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: right now. He's getting picked on their bench and Bruce Carter, 172 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what you're gonna get out of 173 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: this defense yet. I believe the Cowboys are seven in 174 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: football and passing defense. Uh so everything is telling us 175 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: that Manning is going to continue to roll. So then 176 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: it becomes a situation do the Cowboys have the firepower 177 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: to match it? Which I think they do, so we 178 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: could be dealing with, you know, a shootout, which will 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. It could be a massive game 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: for Tes Bryant. Broncos defense has played well, but I 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: don't think they're great defense, and they've protected Romo well. 182 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: I think they can score Wes. What is the game 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: that's jumping out to you. I've got Patriots and Bengals. 184 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: This could be the game where the Patriots luck finally 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: runs out. Greg and I were talking about this last night. 186 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: He might not admit to admit this publicly, but he's 187 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: a little worried about the Patriots this week. I'll admit it. 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: I picked the Patriots because it's a rule that I 189 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: picked the Patriots. But this is the first game I've 190 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: thought they're gonna lose all year. I just think it's time. 191 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I think this is the best defense they've played all year. Uh, 192 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: they tend to struggle with big, physical teams that can 193 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: dominate you a little bit, and I think the Bengals 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: are given problems. I have a hard time with that. 195 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: After what I saw from Andy Dalton last week. It 196 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: was awful, and it's like in you know, New England's 197 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: defense is not the you know, the laydown unit that 198 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: it's been in the past. I think that this is 199 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: not a great game for Andy Dalton or the Bengals. Well, 200 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: we've talked about how Andy Dalton goes in a shell 201 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: when a J. Green isn't available as an option, and 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the way you keep to leave and Devin mccordy are 203 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: playing and taking away number one receivers. That could be 204 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: an issue Wesley, and I couldn't help notice. You came 205 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: into the office today with a big file of nine 206 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: eighties seven paperwork that check out the highlights and underlines 207 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: and everything. So this is wow. There it is. That's 208 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the holy grail. That is exactly what West has been 209 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: speaking of for weeks. He has an entire five what 210 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: how do you describe it again? Well, it was a 211 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: legal file folder. When I used to work at a 212 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: law firm, I had one of the legal files. But 213 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: it's now in like a hanging file. This is my 214 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: evidence for why I broke up with the Bengals about 215 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. It's a various articles and research about 216 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: how they ran their operation at the time and why 217 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I felt the need after they left me at the 218 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Altar to not go back to their loving arms. This 219 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: is this is wonderful madness. This is insane. He has 220 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: highlighted articles from Salon dot com places. Remember King Kaufman 221 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: from Salona don't even exist anymore. It some weird iteration 222 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: of ESPN. He has a article from The Inquirer entitled 223 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: Mike Brown's Contribution to the Lunatic Fringe about Bengals charging 224 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: three dollars for tap water. That's the most Bengals article ever. 225 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: I like, how you ever? Clearly this all these were 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: printed up on a Netscape Rouser dial up connection, a 227 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: library computer lounge. I don't take sports loyalty lightly. And 228 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: if you're going to break up with your team, I 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: think you have to have a You have to make 230 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: a case. I made a case. Have they ever lured 231 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: you back to potential fandom? And then you've gone to 232 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: visit this legal file for evidence of why not? No? 233 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: Did you? Were you doing this at the time or 234 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: then you decided okay, I'm gonna break up? And then 235 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I went back and printed all these out. I would 236 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: say half and half like some of those articles from 237 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: when I broke up with him. And then maybe by 238 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,239 Speaker 1: two thousand and two they were having another really historically 239 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: awful season, and I thought, okay, maybe you have to 240 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: remind myself of why I broke up with this and 241 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: did you ever? Did you ever present your cases? There's 242 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: someone that you do present such a case too. Well. 243 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Every once in a while there'll be some very shortsighted, 244 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: ignorant fan who will have this opinion that you can 245 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: never break up with a team, and you have they 246 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: think loyalty is only a one way street. The fan 247 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: has to be loyal, but the franchise doesn't. And at 248 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that point, maybe I can go get my research and 249 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: show them why exactly this. People forget because the Bengals 250 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: have had a few good years, how bad of an 251 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: operation they were. It was the worst operation I've seen 252 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: in sports. And I have one that's accusing Mike Brown 253 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: of breaking constitutional rights of freedom of speech. I have 254 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: another on which I forgot about, where the Bengals, I 255 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: guess lightly threatened to move to Cleveland. Did you remember this? 256 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: At Awesometimes people forget about all the egregious things they did. 257 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: How can the Bengals threatened to move to another city 258 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: with a team the already and planted I was hoping 259 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: they go, I'm looking at something here. West scrawled it 260 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: in crayon that the Bengals and Brown were in the 261 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: Grassy Knoll and in Dallas. We understand Wesseling's divorce from 262 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: the Bengal I know, I still don't understand. It actually 263 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: leaves more questions than answers. We can talk about this 264 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: over beers. We will, and we will. I don't know 265 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: how we get back on track because I want to 266 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: dig through. Literally, I feel like we're not describing it properly. 267 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: There's probably what three hundred pieces of paper and that 268 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: will take a photo of this and send it out 269 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: on our Twitter accounts and you guys can take a look. 270 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's try to get this train back 271 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: on the tracks. I'll talk about the game I'm interested in. 272 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: That is the Seattle Seahawks, uh going into Indianapolis to 273 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: face the Colts. I like this game because a I 274 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: still don't know about Seattle on the road that win 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: over the Texans on Sunday. I kind of put that 276 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: more on the Texans blowing it than Seahawks winning it, 277 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: although you know, of course that's not necessarily fair, but 278 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: that's what I did. As for the Colts, I feel 279 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: like nobody has really truly bought in yet on this 280 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: Colts team. I know they're three and one, they have 281 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: that really nice win in San Francisco, but I think 282 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: if they win this game, we have to look at 283 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: the Colts as a genuine AFC contender. I think we'vet 284 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: in right, I think we have, And this is the 285 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: best quarterback Seattle's face this season. And you're not gonna 286 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: have Andrew Luck throwing some outrageous pick six at the 287 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: end of this thing, the way they did last week 288 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: against the Texans. Three of us picked the Colts to 289 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: win this game. I did, west Ling did, and Kevin 290 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Patrick did well. I'm gonna sound like a broken record here, 291 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: but this is the same thing we've been saying about 292 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Seattle all year. They're unbeatable at home. They're a five 293 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: team on the road. They've lost. They've won two road 294 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: games so far this year, and they were outplayed severely 295 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: for the first three quarters in both of those. But 296 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: that's a that's a trade of a good team, it is, 297 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean I'm gonna pick them to win. 298 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: I took the Colts this week because I think they 299 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: can play that Seattle Seahawks style of football, close defensive game, 300 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: run the ball well. And I'll take Andrew Luck in 301 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: a close game at home on turf. Uh you know, 302 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: over Russell Wilson. I don't think we disagree. I think 303 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are that maybe second best team in the NFL, 304 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: maybe first, But Cults are good. But the Cults are good, 305 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, I agree, And I'd say one subplot, 306 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I'll be watching just because I find it kind of fascinating. 307 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Is Trent Richardson. He's still rushing about three yards of carry. 308 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna have a tough task obviously this week, but 309 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: let's see what he does against Seattle. UM. Did you 310 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: not find it interesting that he's number one in Pro 311 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: Football Focus is ALUs elusiveness rating? I don't get that. 312 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? I got into a big 313 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: debate with Sam Monson from Pro Football Focus on the 314 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: word elusiveness because in Cleveland I tried to convince him 315 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: he should change his rating to the Bo Jackson rating. 316 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: It combines power and speed because Legarrett Blunt won their 317 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: elusiveness rating one year, which seems anathema to mean. So 318 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: if if he breaks one tackle at the line of 319 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: scrimmage and gets brought down two yards later, it's a 320 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: plus play for elusiveness exactly. Yeah, And he had broken 321 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: a lot of tact what I've seen from him this year, 322 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: he's not slow, he's just indecisive. He doesn't hit a 323 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: whole hard, and he is breaking a lot of tackles, 324 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: but he's not getting big runs because he's not hitting 325 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: the whole hard. I do think that in Cleveland, he 326 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: faced you know, eight guys in the box play after play, 327 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: and that did not help on any level. I still 328 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: expect him to have a better second half of the 329 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: year with Indianapolis. I found it very interesting that Chuck Bagano, 330 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: while he mentioned a mod Bradshaw is going to figure 331 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: out what his plan is in the next couple of weeks, 332 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: sounds like he might be gone for a long time. 333 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Called Colt's backfield a three headed monster that we're gonna 334 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: go with three three guys. Donald Brown, you know Richardson 335 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: obviously mentioned first and the undrafted guy, and didn't really 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, mention Richardson as he's just going to get 337 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the ball, and Richardson has to be a little curious 338 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: about what's going on to Cleveland, doesn't he. I'm telling 339 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: you what. Outside of that, Indian's lost, like no Cleveland 340 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: team lost since he was traded. Dumping your girlfriend and 341 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: then she goes and get somebody better than you, It's 342 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: happened to us all, Greg What is your game this week? 343 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Interest you? Lions and Packers fun teams to watch. I 344 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: love watching Detroit. I think we all picked the Packers 345 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: in this game because you know, the Lions haven't won 346 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: there since all that that doesn't mean anything right now. 347 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think we know how good this Packers 348 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: team is, and I don't think we know how good 349 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: this Lions team is. It wouldn't shock me if they 350 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: go in there and win this game. I love the 351 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: why what I see from the Lions because they're not 352 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: really getting great, great play out of Stafford, and yet 353 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: they're winning games. They can win in different sorts of ways. 354 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: I think they could give that that Green Bay offensive 355 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: line a lot of problem And to me, I think 356 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the most entertaining game of the weekend. Greg, 357 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: we have a special guest this week, don't we. I'm 358 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: very excited about this. We're bringing in a special guest 359 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: this Friday. We're gonna try to do this each Friday 360 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: to talk about some games. We're bringing in Ross Tucker, 361 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: who has more jobs than anyone I believe in the 362 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: football media business. Uh. He works for NBC Sports Network, 363 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: serious XM, NFL Radio. He's got his own podcast, the 364 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You can reach him at Ross 365 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: Tucker NFL is his Twitter account. Ross. Welcome to the show. 366 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for having you. Guys have done a great, great job, 367 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: not only with this podcast but with the blog. Man, 368 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: I love it. I know you guys take turns, but 369 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: your your roundups, your recaps. I mean it's uh, it's 370 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: much much needed for me and all the jobs you 371 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: mentioned I need. I need somebody that's helping me, you know, 372 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: reconcile everything quickly. So um, you know the tough thing 373 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: is they need to make sure that my takeaways aren't 374 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: always the same as your takeaways. Different game. We bring 375 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Ross on and he starts plugging up. It's Ross. Thanks 376 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: for calling in. See you later. So you're in Chicago 377 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: this week for the Saints Bears game, But there was 378 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: so much offensive line news this week, and you're a 379 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: former offensive lineman that I wanted to get your takes 380 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: on the trades that we saw this week. Leave by 381 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: Brown and goes to the Steelers, Eugene Monroe goes to 382 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Yeah, I love I loved both trades and 383 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: what they represented. Actually wrote about this in my column 384 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: at the Sporting News because I don't like Brian McKinney 385 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: and Levi Brown very much. Um, and I'm glad that 386 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens are benching Brian McKinney, and that the 387 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals basically got rid of Levi Brown for nothing. 388 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, both those guys. Prian McKinney in particular, I've 389 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: been watching him for years, and I can honestly say, guys, 390 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen any player in the NFL. Certainly, 391 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any offensive lineman managed to get away 392 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: with playing as much as he has by giving out 393 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: less effort. And it's unbelievable. I've never seen a guy 394 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: walk on the field as much as Brian McKinney does. 395 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy give less effort. The only 396 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: time that he's ever played well at all is really 397 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: when he feels like it, which was a couple of 398 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: times in Minnesota, and certainly you know, in the playoffs 399 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: last year for Baltimore. But then they give him the 400 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: new contract and Ed Reid and Ray Lewis, two guys 401 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: from the U, aren't there anymore, and he goes back 402 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: to really his his lazy ways. You know, you almost 403 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: feel bad saying that, calling somebody lazy, But I don't 404 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: know what he's like off the field. Maybe the hard worker, 405 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I highly doubt it. I'm just going 406 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: by inside the white lines. He gives minimal, minimal effort, 407 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens were just tired of it, 408 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: and they said, let's bringing Eugene Monroe. It's a contract 409 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: year for him. He's a young player, he's a better player. 410 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: So I like the fact that McKinney is going back 411 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: to the bench. And then now in Arizona, I mean 412 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: they're two and two, they're in the mixes as much 413 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: as any other two and two teams. Yeah, they treated 414 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Levi Brown for nothing. I mean they they you know, 415 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals basically said and whether it's Bruce Arians 416 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: or Steve Kime, I don't know, but they basically said, 417 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: we can't stand watching le By Brown play football anymore. 418 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean that's because think about how much any of 419 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: his salary this year they're still paying. And he's another 420 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: frustrating guy because you can't understand, I was below average 421 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: talent and kind of an overachiever, and those guys are 422 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: both way above average talent underachievers. Levi Brown has not 423 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: gotten better with his technique one iota since his rookie year, 424 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: and it's really really frustrating because at this level so 425 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: much of it has to do with technique. He's never 426 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: improved it. The only solid year he had was not 427 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: so coincidentally Inn when it was his contract year and 428 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: years in mccardinals. Listen, it's their fault, you know. I 429 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: guess they felt like they were desperate what we're gonna do, 430 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: But they gave him a nice new contract. But the 431 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: new regime said, we're tired of it. We'd rather put 432 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: some young guys in. We don't think they can play 433 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: much worse than Levi's playing right now, and maybe we 434 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: can build something with them for the future. So I guess, 435 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great day in my opinion, these 436 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: trades for anybody like you guys who absolutely I can 437 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: tell from your tweets and your blog you love the sport, 438 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: You love football. You wish you had the athletic ability 439 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: that those guys had. So I love that those guys 440 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: got Jennis. I guess the only person that doesn't really 441 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: work out for his Steelers fans because they're bringing Levi 442 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: Brallian to be their starting left tackle. But I think 443 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin thinks that he can motivate Levi to play 444 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: at a higher level. But me I don't know what 445 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: to tell you. Here's a cardinal of the Dionats in 446 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: two thousand seven. Look, don't be smirched my athletic ability. Ross. 447 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you know. Judging by the 448 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: amount that you tweet about tennis, I'm sure you're really 449 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: good at tennis. But I've already seen you in person 450 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I'm pretty sure you never played online. Hey, Ross, 451 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley here, how are you? Hey? I'm doing great, Chris, 452 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: ho about yourself? I'm well, Hey, I have a question 453 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: about this Saints Bears game. I really want to when 454 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: I watch the Saints, they have two mismatches. Tell me 455 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: about how the Bears are gonna stop Darren Sprowls and 456 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, and a little bit about how Sean Payton 457 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: is using them the only way they can stop those guys, 458 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, other than you know, trying to practice a 459 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: guy like Jimmy Grhant, which from time to time I've 460 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: seen coordinators do. I mean, I've seen Romeo Cornell when 461 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: he was in Kansas City and New England and Belichick. 462 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: I've seen them do some hilarious things to tight ends, 463 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: like Antonio gates like where it's almost like a hunt 464 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: um and and they're the hold up guys just not 465 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: even trying to get let him get off the last scrimmage. 466 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: But other than that, with where they move those guys 467 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: around everywhere and with different motions, different formations, it's just 468 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: so hard. The only way you can really do it, 469 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: I think is by is by getting the Drew Brees 470 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: very very quickly. Um and the Bears. I just don't 471 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: feel like their pass rush has been quite where it's 472 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: been in recent years now. Losing Henry Melton really hurts. Net. 473 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Where they've kind of improved under melt Tucker is they're 474 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: blitzing a lot more than they have. Your d J. 475 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Williams had to stacks against the CEO, So, my guests, Chris, 476 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: is that they're gonna try to bring inside pressure from 477 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: the linebacker level with d J. Williams and or Lance 478 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: Brigg to try to get to breeze get and breeze 479 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: his face as quickly as possible. The only other thing 480 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I would throw out there, and I'm sure you guys 481 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: have talked about it this week, is you know Aaron 482 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: Kromer being the O C in Chicago. Now you know, 483 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: he intimately knows the strengths and weaknesses of every guy 484 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: on the Saints offense, including the offensive line, whether that's 485 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: De la Plente or Charles Brown or anybody they've got 486 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: up front. So maybe he thinks that they can exploit 487 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: some mismatches there. But that's about all I can think of. 488 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the league's really come down two guys like 489 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: Sprowls and Jimmy Graham and Wes Welker, which is why 490 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: I think that people have totally undervalued those positions. You know, 491 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: the contract the Crews got from the Giants, the contract 492 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: that Welker got from the product those even the contract 493 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: that Sprawls got to leave San Diego and going to 494 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Those guys are more like worth like ten 495 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: million dollars a year to me, and I'm surprised these 496 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: teams haven't recognized it yet. I mean, those guys West 497 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Welker is worth five to seven third down conversions of 498 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: five to nine yards a game. Well, you know how 499 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: much a team and owner would pay before a game 500 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: if you said, hey, we can guarantee you two more 501 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: third downtn versions or three more third I mean, that's 502 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: worth a lot of money. I don't understand why teams 503 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: don't value it as highly as I do. Yeah, I agree, 504 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: Sprawls contract when you when you kind of look at it, 505 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: is one of the best deals in the entire league. 506 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: And how much would you know the Patriots love to 507 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: have Welker right now? Ross, great stuff. Um, it's a 508 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: great game this week. You have Bears and Saints on 509 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Sports USA Radio. Go check out Ross's podcast, Russ Tucker 510 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Football Podcast, and uh, we love to have you on Russ. 511 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: Let's do it again sometime. Yeah, anytime, fellas. You know that, 512 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: and keep up the great work. I'm really enjoying it, 513 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: and you're really really helping me more importantly appreciate it. 514 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: All right, thank here you guys. Okay, so that moves 515 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: us right along to our hero pick segment. Defend your 516 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: hero there. It is okay with Ross. We were just 517 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: talking about the Saints and Bears game. Mark, you have 518 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: the Saints as a hero pick this week. I don't 519 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: know how. I mean, I would have thought after what 520 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: we saw against the Dolphins and actually what we've seen 521 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: in general, that someone else would have taken New Orleans 522 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: here too. I'm delighted with it. I couldn't ask for 523 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: a better hero pick. And I mean my defense of 524 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: why I chose them. As you know, I walked out 525 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: of Monday Night's game thinking, you know what, I have 526 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: overlooked this team. This is a super Bowl contender. I 527 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: picked the Bears for the same exact Zach reason, because 528 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: the Saints look so good that I figured they have 529 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: to come down a little bit. From that. The Bears 530 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: played against the lines and lost. Maybe they have to 531 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: bounce back from that. What question I have? I know West, 532 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: you especially, you've been really excited about Cutler's play at 533 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: least the first three weeks. Um, should we be nervous 534 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: a little bit after a rough game in Week four 535 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: that we could be going into one of the Cutler funks? 536 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: Or is this going to be a situation where it 537 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: will be different this year. I don't have an answer 538 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: for you, because I think Jake Cutler is one of 539 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: the most unpredictable quarterbacks in the NFL, and I like 540 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: what Tressman has done. But is that something that's going 541 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: to take or is this something that's going to be 542 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: hit and this all year? But watching that game, it 543 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: wasn't something where you thought, man, Jake Cutler's back to 544 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: his old habits making crazy throws he has no business making. 545 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: He just he just missed a lot of throws. It 546 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like him being a bone head. It was just 547 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: made a mistake. And the Saints aren't the same, you know, 548 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: they're not the same way for the Superdome, They're not 549 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: the same on grass. I mean, I don't I don't 550 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's been the case. When 551 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: Sprowls is one of your best players, he's He's a 552 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: different player. He's a perfect example of a Dome player. 553 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: This bears line, which is obviously better than it's been 554 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: ever during Color's career against New Orleans Front seven that 555 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that uh. And one thing 556 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm curious about, and I'm with you, Mark, I agree 557 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: that you know I've slept on the Saints a little 558 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: bit potentially being another uh having another big season. But 559 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: are they a team we should really truly take seriously? 560 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Could they, for instance, going to Seattle in January and 561 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks? Are they Are they that type of 562 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: team or are they just a team that's gonna pile 563 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: up wins in the regular season. They just seems to 564 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: me on offense, they you know, they didn't have Graham 565 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: for a big chunk of last year and everything was 566 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: off last year, but remember who they were the year before, 567 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: almost unstoppable on offense, and Breezes playing at a high level. 568 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Sprowls and Graham give them weapons. Let's not forget that. 569 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Every October and November we see offenses running wild, passing 570 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the ball all over the place, and in December and 571 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: January gets more conservative, more constricted. You have to be 572 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: able to run the ball a little bit, and the 573 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Saints haven't shown they can run the ball at all 574 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: this year, but they were a thirteen and three team 575 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when they had no defense. 576 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: You give Drew Ease at peak efficiency with an okay 577 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: defense doesn't need to keep at this level, and you're 578 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender, right, But if they have to 579 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: go on the road in a in a cold weather 580 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: stadium in January, that's an issue for the Saints more 581 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: so than other teams, I think. Alright, let's move on 582 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: to Greg with another hero pick for the Dolphins taking 583 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: down the Ravens at home. Feeling good about the Dolphins 584 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: after a tough Monday Night loss, Greg I don't feel 585 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: good about either one of these teams. Does anyone watch 586 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense here hasn't been good for a month. 587 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a coin flip game. So I took 588 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: the home team. I didn't think about it too much. 589 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: This is I think all our hero picks are favored. 590 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Dolphins are the favorite in this game. 591 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Those Saints are the favorite in the Bears game, So 592 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: it's not a crazy pick. I can see why people 593 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: aren't buying the Dolphins. But I think what we saw 594 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: in the first month of the season, They're gonna be 595 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: in every game, and I think the Ravens are gonna 596 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: have a hard time with any halfway decent defense. And 597 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: what happened to Miami on Monday night is not going 598 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: to happen against Baltimore. I mean, Joe Flacco and obviously 599 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: we all know the guys uneven quarterback in general. He 600 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: was a disaster last week. And I don't understand why 601 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore ran the ball nine times against the Bills defense 602 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: that had been giving up about a hundred and fifty 603 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: on the ground each week coming in. It was odd 604 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: to me that's going to be fixed this week. Hardball, 605 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: went out of his way to say, look, we need 606 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: to get the ball on Ray Rice his hands. He's 607 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: the centerpiece of our offense and he will get on track. 608 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: And they're not an easy team to run against. You mention, 609 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: they're not a team built the Dolphins, that is for 610 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: a track me. I think they like this sort of 611 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: matchup and I think they're a better team right now 612 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Wells, here's the game. I'm kind of fascinated 613 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: with you. You took the Texans uh to beat the 614 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Niners on the road on Sunday night, coming off the 615 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: Texans are coming off one of the worst possible losses 616 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: you could have, at least in September, you know what 617 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean? Like this, this is a team that is 618 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: in trouble a little bit. You would think at two 619 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: and two now you think they're gonna win in San Francisco. 620 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Tell me why this is. This is another coin flip game. 621 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: But you're you remember, like, uh, we see a player 622 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: at the end of his career, uh, Ed Reid for 623 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: example last year. Judge the game, not the name. That's 624 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: who the forty Niners are right now. Judge the game, 625 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: not the name. They're not playing like the forty Niners. 626 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: They they wiped out the Rams on the scoreboard, but 627 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: the forty Niners didn't play a good game. The Texans, 628 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who they are right now. They dominated 629 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks for three quarters, so we know they can 630 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: beat the forty Niners. We know they can do that 631 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: at home. And you know, Gregg's made fun of me 632 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: a little bit for how much I've pumped up Cushing. 633 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's the best linebacker in the league, 634 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: but this defense just placed totally different with him in 635 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: the lineup. But they are one of the most dominant 636 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL when cushings on the field, and 637 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: when he's off the field, they're an average defense. You know, 638 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: Dan took a ton of heat in the city of 639 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: Houston on radio for going out on a limb at 640 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: the time in saying Houston was an eight and eight 641 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: football team. I don't have a big problem with that, 642 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: not today. And Dan even said to us, wait, why 643 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: could they be eight? I can't think of how you 644 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: know two big games that match shop is one on 645 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the road in a game like this where they shouldn't 646 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: have he doesn't get it done and I don't think 647 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna on Sundays. To Chris's point, though, Shops had 648 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: better moments this year overall than Kaepernick, and the probably 649 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: the most consistent unit in this game has been the 650 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: Texans defense. They've been good. So I I hear you. 651 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was a coin flip game, but I'm 652 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: I kind of don't trust Shop at the end. Okay, 653 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: my hero pick and I don't know why I keep 654 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: doing this is this is just like I don't even 655 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: the behavior is just so destructive. I picked the Giants 656 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: for the fifth straight week. They are single handedly as 657 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: k Rich behind the glass shakes her head, diehard Eagles fan. Uh, 658 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: week after week they let me down and I have 659 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: really nothing. It's basically a sessler. I have that the 660 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: feeling that I understand that the Giants have to win eventually. 661 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: This was my exact same reasoning for picking the Giants 662 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: last week. I have to sesss come true. These Sesslers 663 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: have you in last place and they're fixing you in 664 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: second to last. Yeah, we'd encourage you Dan just keep 665 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: picking New York and to come the Yeah, so shut up, guys. 666 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: First of all, Second of all, the Eagles, they don't. 667 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: They're not very good to me. I don't. I don't 668 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: think the Eagles are a very good team at all. 669 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: And obviously I can't say the Giants are good team. 670 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: But the Giants have to win eventually, they're at home. 671 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. This time, let's talk about the inconsistencies 672 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: of Dan Hansis's convictions. Yes, you will never pick the 673 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: Chargers again because they burned you, but you'll pick the 674 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: Giants for five straight weeks and you hate the text. 675 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: But to your point, this is how inconsistent he is. 676 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: He picked the Chargers this week. Know it does. When 677 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: it crags up out of his seat, he's up. Listen. 678 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: That is I lack honor, as I say, as I 679 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: say on my Twitter profile on the seven a half, 680 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: seven and a half out of ten on the Human 681 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: decency scale. I'm not perfect. None of us are. I can't. 682 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Philip Rivers was going to become 683 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: an MVP level player again, so you know, get off 684 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: my back. But uhair enough, you know what. I don't 685 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: know what to say. I don't know why I picked 686 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: the Giants. Some upset that I did, but I did, 687 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: and I just I have assessling. It's like, look great, 688 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: who knows. It's like when sometimes you go to a 689 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: funeral or you hear people talk about someone and they're like, 690 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: when he said something, no one's gonna say that about 691 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. I can deal with that. But 692 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: to your point, West, the Chargers game really bothering me 693 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: because it was a hero pick. I don't think I've 694 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: had a hero pick on the Giants yet. If they 695 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: burned me, uh, they may be dead to me for 696 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: a period of time until they start playing there, and 697 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: then they will come back to stand in your ground. 698 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Now let's go through the orphans. 699 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: These are games that weren't spotlighted by us. We're not 700 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: hero picks, but they're still games and we should still 701 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: be excited about them. We'll start with Mark Sessler. Uh, 702 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and St. Louis Rams squaring off two teams 703 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: not playing very well. Somebody probably has to win, you know, 704 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: listen on on this show. Brian Schottenheimer has not gotten 705 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of love for this crew. Uh, deservedly so. 706 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: I think us, Yes, we are not big Schottenheimer fans historically, 707 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: in terms of our world Uh, if they can't go 708 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: out and operate offensively the way they say they plan 709 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: to against Jacksonville, then I had I don't really understand 710 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: when it's gonna happen this season. I'm suspicious that they're 711 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 1: actually gonna go and look just the same they do 712 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: every other week. I just I don't see a lot 713 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: to like about the Rams, their quarterback, their coaching staff, 714 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: their scheme, and the way they've used any of their players. Well, 715 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: I told Greg, I kind of feel a little bit 716 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: better about the Jags this week with Justin Blackman coming back, 717 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis is getting healthy, and then I remember they 718 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: just traded their left tackle and they're gonna put Luke Jokel, 719 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: who was struggled at right tackle, They're gonna put him 720 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: at left and actually Lewis re injured his calf. Okay, 721 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: so I'm wrong about that. So there's nothing for Jaguars 722 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: fans to look forward to, and you get to play 723 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn and Chris Long on turf with that line 724 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: with your bad quarterback, wouldn't the Jaguars be the perfect 725 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: team to sign Josh Freeman Because you obviously gabber it's 726 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: not your future obvious. Obviously, Henny's not the future. And Freeman, 727 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: you could take a flyer on him, see what happens 728 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: if he doesn't show you anything. You know, who cares? 729 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: What if he chances of getting the first overall pick. Well, 730 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: now you're getting into a bit of a slippery slope. Well, frankly, 731 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: they their whole thing about pitching, gabbered as this guy 732 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: that steals a chance. I don't buy it into it all. 733 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: I've heard that no front office has worked harder for longer. 734 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: To look at this year's draft quarterbacks, I think they 735 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: they're very much not into suddenly going nine and seven 736 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: with Josh Freeman, not that they would. I The reason 737 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: I said that, West is because you're insinuating that it 738 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: would be better for them to lose, which makes sense 739 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: from our point of view, But for the team itself, 740 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: you would think they're still dedicated to winning, right or 741 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: am I being? Are you? Are you say and I'm 742 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: accusing the Jaguars of tanking. I didn't say it. I 743 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't say it, but it seems like you're you're messing 744 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: with the integrity of the mustache. Well what if you 745 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: look at Josh Freeman and you decide he's not He's 746 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: not our kind of guy. You know. There are reports 747 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: that he hasn't been good in the locker room. He's 748 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: not a leader, and it sounds like the Jaguars aren't 749 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: interested from there. Could be a lot of reasons they're 750 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: not interested. All right, Well, whatever I enjoy blade gab, 751 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: what do you want from me? There's a shadowy league 752 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: figure coming in west. Uh. Tell us a little bit 753 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: about Kansas City and the Tennessee Titans. I am still 754 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to get on the bad side of Chiefs fans. 755 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick against them again just so they can 756 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: fill my Twitter box with hate and then I can block. 757 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: I can add to my Dikembe Mtambo like block figure 758 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Chris is standing up and waving his finger 759 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: at us. Uh. This is uh. I can't say I'm 760 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: excited about Ryan Fitzpatrick, but it's a vote for the 761 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: Titans defense, which has played better than every defense they've 762 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: played against. I picked the Titans to win this game too. 763 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: I thought I might get a hero pick for it, 764 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: because are the two quarterbacks in this game that much different? 765 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: Are the defense is that much different than They're kind 766 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: of similar teams they are very similar. So I Tennessee. 767 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Every week you watch them, they're a little better than 768 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: you expect. I'll admit that Alex Smith is better than 769 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick just because Fitzpatrick has more turnovers. But it's 770 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: not he's not like It's not like Fitzpatrick couldn't channel 771 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: some some magic for a few quarters and out play him. 772 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: They're very they're actually the opposite quarterback. No one has 773 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: a higher ratio of aggressiveness to lack of arm strength 774 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: than Ryan Fitzpatrick because he doesn't like Alex Smith. He 775 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have a gun, but he doesn't care. He comes 776 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: in there and he's just going for a man with 777 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: a giant beard, that's all. He should have a paper 778 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Tale endorsement. Um, he should because what is a brawny man? Yeah? 779 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: Room slowly warm uptime. Okay, So let me talk about 780 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: the Panthers at the Cardinals. This one was a bit 781 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: fascinating to me because this was a straight sweep for 782 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: a t L and including Kevin Patrick, all five of 783 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: us picked the Panthers to beat the Cardinals on the road. Um, 784 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what we've seen from the Panthers to 785 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: all pick them to beat Cardinals team at home at 786 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: this point, they want a game. Nothing do you can? Yeah? 787 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: But you know that's different. That was a total Arizona's 788 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: offensive line. Listen, I don't know why we all picked 789 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Are they that much better than the who's 790 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: the rookie of the year candidate for the Panthers on defense? Oh? 791 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: You you gonna put me on the spot? Star, I 792 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: just want to hear you say that. But really that's 793 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: the that's the matchup that I don't think Arizona is 794 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: depleted offensive line can block Star Lotula and company. That's 795 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: not how you say it. I don't know. I guess 796 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm the thing. I'm not sold on the Panthers in 797 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: the sense that let's see them win a close game, 798 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,479 Speaker 1: especially on the road. Let's finish the game out. Haven't 799 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: seen it yet, so hey, let's see the Cardinals not 800 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: win a game at the last second against Mike Glennan 801 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: and Sam Bradford. This is not going to go well 802 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer, who is a statue back there. He's 803 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: gonna get canned, all right, Greg. The San Diego Chargers 804 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: and Oakland Raiders playing at three thirty in the morning 805 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday night. It's actually eastern eight thirty Pacific. It's 806 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Chris Wesleyan is going to be in 807 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: the office until the wee hours of the morning. I'm 808 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna be home eventually watching this game and being excited. 809 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this game. The Raiders defense is spunky, 810 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: Terrell Prior's back, Philip Rivers is playing at a high level. 811 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a more interesting game 812 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: than people think. And the question I have to ask 813 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: is are the Raiders gonna get that win and put 814 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: your softball pants in or Yeah, that's the real question. 815 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: And and for those out there that don't know, I 816 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: listened to our last podcast and realized there's probably a 817 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: lot of people listening that don't know. If the Raiders 818 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: win six games, the Chris Wesleyan has to eat a 819 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: softball pants and the Raiders have shown some fight this 820 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: there's a pulse. Wait, they have one win. Besides that, 821 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about my softball pants yet. You 822 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: thought they were the worst team in the league. They're 823 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: not the worst team. They're the second worst team in well, 824 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: they might be bottom five, better than the Giants six 825 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: point six wins seems a little more likely now that 826 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: it did thirty days. If Matt Flynn ever makes another 827 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: appearance in a Raiders uniform, my softball pants are spick 828 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: and span in the closet and never get in touch, 829 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: it's more likely that you appear in the Raiders game again. 830 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: That's a good point. His coach despises him, open sense. 831 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: I just want to say that I can't wait until 832 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: after this game and I'm driving home and it's only 833 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: me and drunk drivers on the road and three in 834 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: the morning. You're not expecting me on Monday, I come 835 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: in at four in the morning to start reporting on 836 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: what happened the day before. I will have no input 837 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: on this game. I will be asleep. I'll give you 838 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: a high five on my way out the door. Um, 839 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: all right, so let's go to the last game in 840 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: the night of the week. And you know, listen, the 841 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: Jets are. Jets are on the road in Atlanta against 842 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons, team that needs to win. Jets don't have 843 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: any other wide receivers. They have a rookie quarterback that 844 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: might be a walking disaster. Uh, this probably will not 845 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: end well for Gang Green. You know what they do 846 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: have though, what snacks they do have? Snacks? Harrison, Uh, 847 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's a great man and a 848 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: great figure and on the defensive line. But they're not 849 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna be able to score any points. And they probably 850 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: even though they do have a good defense, the Falcons 851 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: are gonna score. The Falcon's gonna score that much. I 852 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: don't like I don't like the Well, this is the 853 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: biggest problem with the Jets defense, and it's not their fault. 854 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: It's at their offense puts the Jets defense in a 855 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: terrible spot with these turnovers and they ended up playing 856 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: at least two or three series where it begins in 857 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: their side of the field and they get burned that way. 858 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: I think if you believe in Rex Ryan, this is 859 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: the game that he could turn around essentially the way 860 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: people feel about him as a head coach of the Jets, 861 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: this is a huge opportunity for him. Will he take 862 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: care of business? No? Oh, that's not fair. Come on, 863 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: you can't put it on the Rex. If they get 864 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: whooped in Atlanta on Monday night. I don't see why 865 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: the Jets couldn't give him some problems. Did anybody pick them? Well, 866 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: it's the same matchup as Arizona. You've got an offensive 867 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: line that's been outplayed all year, and then you've got 868 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: a Jets defense in front seven that's been lights out. 869 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: That is their hope. Their defense has been interesting to watch, 870 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: right and don't Yeah, you can't. The one problem is 871 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: you already have the Geno Smith issue. You don't know 872 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from him a series by series basis. 873 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: Now you have Santonio Homes and Stephen Hill out of 874 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: the lineup that was already a shaky wide receiver group. 875 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: Now he literally has no one to throw to. I 876 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: don't imagine the replacements will be uh getting any openings. 877 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: Starting Ben Obamano, we have to he got cut. Yeah, 878 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: we'll have to somebody. Jarmy Curly getting four and twelve targets, 879 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: Clyde Gates. Let's get Braylon Edwards back on the team. 880 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: Um okay, So that is Week five. We will be 881 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: back on Sunday as we are every week, breaking down 882 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: all the games of the week, and I guess I 883 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna be a little different with that. 884 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: That midnight game, well, we probably won't break down the 885 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: Raiders Chargers game. I'll be here by myself. Still download 886 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: It's fine, you can figure. Oh that's a good point. Greg. 887 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: Go to iTunes and subscribe to the podcast. Download, leave 888 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: a star rating. The Large Shadowy League figures um that 889 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: that's the only way that will keep us alive. Literally, 890 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: they will snuff our lives out if you don't do that, 891 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: so please do it, um okay until Sunday. This is 892 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: Dan Hans's signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss, 893 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: Cambridge behind the Glass, and of course while the Internet 894 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: kill something