1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: This is Girls Talkboys Talk, presented by Jigsaw of Dating, 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Girls Talkboys Talk, presented by Jike South, 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: the preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. Christy Scales, 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Ashamars and Jessinvar is here with you at the Star 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: in Frisco. 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 4: Ladies, there's a lot of talk ball. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: Let's jump right to it because, well, if you haven't 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: seen it yet, Trayvon Diggs, according to multiple reports at 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: this point out for the season with an ACL injury. 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: What we can speak on because we were right there, 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: is seeing Trayvon coming out with I'm not sure if 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: everybody saw it, but Trayvon was in crutches, was transported 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: to get an MRI, and then the news broke of 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: it being a season ending ac ELE injury. Obviously, very 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Sonmber Mood here at the Star as that news broke 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: really right before we came on here. So Christy, I'm 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna go to you for this as far as kind 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: of what we know so far and what we can 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: report on it. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 5: Sure, well, the Cowboys haven't officially confirmed it yet that 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 5: it's a torn acl but most folks on social media 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 5: have seen the reports. And boy, just when it's two 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: and zero and everyone's talking about how many points you're 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 5: gonna whip the Cardinals by, then reality slaps you in 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: the face and it shows you the fragile nature of 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: the NFL and how you can have injuries in practice. 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 5: And so we had just been talking all week and 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: even last week about the defensive backfield and getting Donovan 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 5: Wilson back and Jordan Wilson and Jordan Lewis ten plays 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: left week and then all of a sudden, now you're 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 5: going to be without one of your starting cornerbacks. So 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 5: I think that the immediate aftermath is how'd he get 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: through this weekend? So Deron Bland, you know, he's been 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 5: playing inside as your nickel corner, but he has an 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 5: experience playing outside, and of course he did that last 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 5: year when he had to step in for Anthony Brown 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: last year. So the most logical thing would be, well, 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: you probably take Deron and move him from the slot 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 5: and have him play outside in place of Trayvon Diggs, 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: and then Jordan Lewis slide in because he's he had 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 5: been your starter at Nickel. But the thing is last 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 5: week was his first game since a very severe foot 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 5: injury last year, and he was limited to ten snaps. 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: So I don't know that you can count on Jordan 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: Lewis that you would want to throw him out there 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: for thirty or forty five snaps in a game, depending 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 5: on how many the Cardinals get then and the trade 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 5: for Noah Igbinogamy comes through. He was traded for Kelvin Joseph. 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 5: The thing is, when he had Calvin Joseph this year 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: in camp, he was working inside. Uh, Noah works outside, 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 5: so kind of interesting to see how they're gonna move 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: the chess pieces around. 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean, well, first, I just want to 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 6: say that for Trayvon Diggs, I'm just I'm incredibly disappointed 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 6: for him, just because he's going into what is his 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: third fourth year now, and the development of corner is 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: you know, it's significant in the sense of, like he 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 6: said it yesterday, the game is slowing down for him, 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 6: so it's less wasted movement, and he just seems so 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 6: much much more precise, and I just I feel for 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: him because I really felt like he was gonna have 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 6: one of the best years, if not the best year 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 6: of his career, and so gut it for him, really 69 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 6: hoping that he has a healthy, healthy recovery. But in 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 6: regard to you know, what choices they have and just 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 6: kind of how things work. It's it's interesting me you 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: were talking to the Naseean Wright injury seems like a 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 6: big deal too, just because if he wasn't on IR 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 6: he showed you doing training camp when Trayvon Days was 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 6: out with that toe injury, he could hang. He looks 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 6: good that for those those practices and training camps. So yeah, 77 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 6: I mean, DQ's gonna have to move some guys around. 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 6: You mentioned Ron Blamb being a guy that can play 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 6: on the outside also too. But the issue right now, 80 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: going the fact that this is happening so late in 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 6: the week, you think about how do you adjust to 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: that and what does that look like? 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 7: I mean, so yeah, I'm. 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then wouldn't Eric Scott, the rookie cornerback who 85 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 5: the Cowboys are really high on and had a pretty 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: stolid camp. He's on the fifty three man roster. But 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: he was one of the coaches game day and actives 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: the first two weeks, so we would assume that he 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 5: would be active and be a backup for this weekend. 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: And I'm so glad you mentioned right, but the fact is, 91 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: just on the list that he's on, it has to 92 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: wait at least two more games before he could even 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 5: come back. But I issue you're right about the fantastic 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: year that Trayvon's had, even though it's been two games. 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: This is such a ridiculous, crazy, absurd stat but the 96 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: passer rating for the opposing quarterbacks through two weeks when 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 5: they target Trayvon one point zero, not one hundred one 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: point zero, that is that is crazy. And he's been targeted. 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 5: Let's see, I've got the number here. He's been targeted 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 5: eight times and has given up only twenty six yards, 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 5: so three point three yards per target when you're throwing 102 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 5: towards Trayvon. That's really that is crazy. Good for Trayvon. 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 5: But then you say Bland, and again it's a little 104 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 5: bit different because he's been playing in the slot. But 105 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: eight targets towards drawn Bland only sixteen yards, so two 106 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 5: point zero yards per attempt. But it's an animal when 107 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 5: you're on the outside as opposed to the inside. 108 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: It is a really somber feeling here at this shirt, 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: and it makes it so eerie that we just heard 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: from Trayvon yesterday. He just spoke to the media yesterday 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: that stat was actually brought up to him. 112 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: They said, do you know what this numbers? 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: He said no? And then his birthday, right, it was 114 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: just his birthday yesterday as well, and so they talked about, well, 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: do you. 116 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: Know what this numbers? He said no, and then he 117 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: heard he said to dang like that was it? 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, of course, wishing Trayvon all the best going forward. 119 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: It's it is a devastating blow to him and everything 120 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: he's worked for, everything he's been doing in these games, 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: because we've talked about, you know, maybe he's not getting 122 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: the most interceptions, but he's setting up these guys for 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: these plays, and he's being a ballhawk without actually getting 124 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: the ball. He's making those hard tackles, he's playing physical. 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: He was on that track to possibly have the best 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: season that we've seen from Trayvon with his tenure here 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys. So it is very disheartening to 128 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: see that for a player like him, But say you 129 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: have Steffan Gilmore that came in this offseason that has 130 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: made a direct impact and automatic impact still quickly that 131 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: I would be ten times more worried if he wasn't 132 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: in the equation right now. I think that's kind of 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: a saving grace that there's not very many positives that 134 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: you go into and it comes to player injuries, but 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: you have a Steffan Gilmore who's become that locker room leader, 136 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, and he's really worked hard to be that 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: guy for the cornerback room. 138 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: So all the best to Trey. 139 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely just devastated for him and knowing that he's going 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: to attack whatever he needs to come back like he 141 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: attacks this game. 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: And so that's really. 143 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: It's gutting. Like Aisha said, there's not really another word, 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: but something I wanted to add on to. As you 145 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: mentioned Naseeon right, we were talking about him, and so Christy, yes, 146 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: he is on IR right now for the team. That 147 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: means he can't be eligible to return and told the 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: Patriots game and even then, what I think is going 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: to be interesting to watch for is Micha McCarthy goes 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: with these ramp up periods, whether it be post injury 151 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: or anything like that. The ramp up is slow, so 152 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: just very much so like you saw with Jordan Lewis, 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: he only took ten snaps in the previous game on 154 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: Sunday against the Jets. You're not going to see a 155 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: full force Naseean Wright coming in right away taking all 156 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: of the snaps. So it's going to be interesting to 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: see how he's kind of integrated back in, maybe with 158 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: limited reps at first, and then coming back in at 159 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: full force kind of towards the middle of the season 160 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: when you know he's able to do so. 161 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: After that ramp up base. 162 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just want to mention. 163 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 5: One other thing about how you compensate for the loss 164 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: of Trayvon in the near term. And we're talking about 165 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 5: like nicol and so if Deron moved from nickel to 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 5: outside Jordan Lewis as only he was, they wanted him 167 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 5: to get ten to fifteen snaps last week and he 168 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 5: only got ten. But the good thing is with the 169 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: versatile defense to backs that dan Quinn has to work 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: with and the cross training that they all do, there 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: are things that you can do. You can go, for example, 172 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,119 Speaker 5: with a big nickel, So one of the bigger body safeties, 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 5: have them come down and play and have the matchups 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: with the tight ends, and sometimes they're even matched up 175 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: with wide receivers who are in the slot. So you 176 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: would see more of a big nickel or the bigger 177 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: guys in the dime. You're not going to see. They 178 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: call a package called penny where you bring in the 179 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 5: extra smaller cornerbacks, but this would be more like a 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: big nickel or a heavier dime moving forward, and that's 181 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: a good matchup anyway. And when you're playing a team 182 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: like the Cardinals and one of the go to guys 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 5: is zach Ertz, you know some of the bigger guys anyway. 184 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 6: So maybe like in the short term, since you ring 185 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 6: up that point, the short term, Woul Jordan Louis still 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: be in a rampo face. If zach Ertz is the 187 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 6: bigger body guy that they use in the slot or 188 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 6: whatever the case may be, maybe we would see an 189 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 6: Israel Kwalma take on that exactly. He plays against big, 190 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 6: slack guys. 191 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 5: And Marquise Bell he's been playing the linebacker, but he's 192 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 5: a safety, you know. 193 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 8: Maybe Thomas absolutely absolutely, with all due respect though watching 194 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 8: is Raal Mconmo's game watching how he plays is Romankualma 195 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 8: is a corner and he's a good corner, and he 196 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 8: has that fire that Trayvon plays with. 197 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 6: He plays physical, but also too he can match the 198 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 6: length that Trayvon brings, because that's one of the biggest 199 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 6: things that Trayvon brings to this defense is that he 200 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 6: can take away a whole part of the field because 201 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: he has the length. Very curious to see how they 202 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 6: decide to go forward with his roomquambo just because they 203 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 6: I think his skill set shows corner stuff and he 204 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 6: I feel like he's far more effective on the boundary 205 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 6: than he is even as a slot guy because of 206 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: his size. So I would be curious to see if 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 6: they give that open competition, if he's thrown in the 208 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 6: hat as a coy, that could because I bet he 209 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 6: can match the energy and also playing safety and having 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 6: that versatility is vision is good. I would love to 211 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: see him get the opportunity to show that he is 212 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: at cooing. 213 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 5: I think you're right right, and I think it's going 214 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: to be matchup week to week. Right, It's going to 215 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 5: depend on the packages that they're expecting to see from 216 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: the opponent. But we should share some good news, and 217 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: that is that Donovan Wilson it looks to be on track. 218 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 5: Of course, this will be his season debut as he 219 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: makes its way back from a calf injury. 220 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: But he was listed as. 221 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: A full participant again today as he was yesterday. 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 7: So that's stratting you down. 223 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: A practice report, actually reading my mind. 224 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: So let's go down the practice report and then we 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: have to take a break here in one minute. So 226 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: something something to think about. Brandon Cooks, Tyler Smith, Jimmy 227 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Doga all full participants in practice, which is an upgrade 228 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: from the limited that they were on Wednesday. Don Van Wilson, 229 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, was a full participant. Jaron Curse and 230 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: Zach Morton did not participate. And then Tavin Beyottish added 231 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: to this injury report today as a limited participant with 232 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: a hamstring injury as well. So more things to keep 233 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: an eye on as we continue on through the week. 234 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I will say that I did get 235 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: to touch base with Tyler Beyottish in the locker room. 236 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 6: I know a lot of people missed him, but he 237 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 6: seemed like he was in good spirits. He seemed fine. 238 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 6: I asked him how his body was feeling. He was like, 239 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 6: I'm good, you know, so I know that it just was. 240 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 6: It was sent out though that a source said that 241 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 6: he should be okay, so that mirrors me seeing him 242 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 6: like and he seemed fine. So I would assume that 243 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 6: the hamstring thing is a precautionary thing for the MRI. 244 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 6: And yeah, it's it's just been a tough day in 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 6: the office for everybody. 246 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 4: Man definitely. 247 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, let's take our first break. 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Dip 283 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: in here with the Dallascowis dot com a little bit. 284 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: We brought in none other than Danny's direct Danny now 285 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: a Cardinals reporter for the team, however, a little bit 286 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: of a history here with the Dallas Cowboys as well. 287 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: We are so happy to have you on today. 288 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 10: Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I've spent a couple 289 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 10: of years back in Dallas. It's been been out here 290 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 10: in Arizona for almost two years today, which is crazy. 291 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 11: How much it's gone by. But I appreciate you guys 292 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 11: having me on. 293 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: Yes, well, killing it as always, Danny. We want to 294 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: start by asking you, let's start with the injury report first. 295 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: We just got that injury report. Is there any notable 296 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: injuries on the cardinal side of things going into this 297 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: matchup that we should know about at this point? 298 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 10: Not really. The only one would have been defensive line. 299 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 10: Unlucky part to the most Sunday game against the Giants 300 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 10: with the shoulder. He's been a full participant the last 301 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 10: two days of practice, so expect to having that from 302 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 10: the line, which is huge because the other major injuries 303 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 10: that were on that report. Defensive lineman Carlos walk into 304 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 10: here with a biceps injury, will have surgery and be 305 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 10: out for some time, and set a defensive lineman Alga 306 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 10: Collier dealing with the same injury. He's already on IR. 307 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 10: Linebacker Josh Woods deal with an ankle, don't expection to play, 308 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 10: he hasn't played seek one. So no real changes, I 309 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 10: would imagine I'll been, you know, hopefully going the right 310 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 10: way for the rest of the week for the Cardinals. 311 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 10: So from an injury standpoint, no real surprise from that report. 312 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 10: Of course, you are also about who the baker who 313 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 10: repos went on IR with a hamstring injury, so a 314 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 10: couple of big defenders that will be not on the 315 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 10: fields for the Cardinals to use. 316 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: Danny, I have to ask what the what it's been 317 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 5: like the talk around the locker room. I imagine the 318 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: word finish has probably come up a bit this week 319 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: because that lost to the Giants, blowing in twenty one 320 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: point lead and just collapsing, you know, midway through the 321 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: third quarter through through the rest of it. You know, 322 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: what's the mood out there and what is what is 323 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: happening with this team in the second half of the 324 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 5: games the first. 325 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 10: Two weeks absolutely finished husband the big question this week 326 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 10: and not just for game, but the Cardinals also had 327 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 10: to lead Week one in Washington, Arizona's been outscored twenty 328 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 10: seven to nothing in the fourth quarter. So execution, for 329 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 10: whatever reason, has not carried on throughout an entire game. 330 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 10: But this team has shown flashes, and I guess if 331 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 10: you're looking for some sort of hope that that's what 332 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 10: it is. As a Cardinal standars. You seed the flashes 333 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 10: from the team. It's now just a matter of putting 334 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 10: that together for an entire game. I think the offense 335 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 10: was struggling for whatever reason the end of that third 336 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 10: quarter into the fourth quarter, and then you had your 337 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 10: defense out there for a much longer time, not only 338 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 10: dealing with a running back like State call Barkley, so 339 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 10: a mobile quarterback like Daniel Jones, and I think stamina 340 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 10: came into play, especially with some of those defensive laws 341 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 10: injuries that I was touching on in Carlos Walkins leads 342 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 10: the game pretty early with the by sets injuries, and 343 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 10: that's the position that this defense has really been relying 344 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 10: on a rotation, and that was the plan to rotate 345 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 10: your five or six guys. And now that you Carlos 346 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 10: Walkin's and LJ. Colly are out with bicets injury for 347 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 10: the succeinable future, that kind of changes things. You don't 348 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 10: want your players having a higher snap count than what 349 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 10: you would like, so I would assume there's going to 350 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 10: be some adjustment period there. But you're right. For for 351 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 10: whatever reason, four quarter struggles have become a pattern through 352 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 10: two weeks. I think it was a pretty big wake 353 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 10: up all the seeing that this team had a twenty 354 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 10: nothing lead at behalf and then watching that collass of 355 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 10: maybe a little bit of the confidence say, Okay, we 356 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 10: can do this, but we need to make sure that 357 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 10: we're carrying this throughout an entire game. 358 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 6: Danny Michael Wilson as a gentleman that you folks drafted 359 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 6: this past year wide receiver number fourteen. He's a gentleman 360 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 6: that in the draft I was very impressed with with 361 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: his route running ability, especially given. 362 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 11: How tall he is. 363 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 6: How has he performed, and what's the overall feeling of 364 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 6: what he brings to the team, and just how he's progressed, 365 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 6: that's he's gotten into the league. 366 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, Michael Wilson has a great training camp, great pre season. 367 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 10: Really fills a void in terms of that size that 368 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 10: you lost from DeAndre Hopkins. And we've heard from teammates 369 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 10: who coaches not just the physical ability but also the 370 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 10: mental side of things and being able to pick up 371 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 10: this team rather quickly. So I think that he has 372 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 10: a unique skill set from the rest of the receivers 373 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 10: in terms of you know, you've got longer water spot, 374 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 10: you've got hollow a ground, they've got the team cover, 375 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 10: they can create that separation. Michael Wilson's going to give 376 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 10: you that side for those contest evolved. We just haven't 377 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 10: seen enough of really a downfield presence. There wasn't one, 378 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 10: and he's one. Given far back. Josh Shabs only has 379 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 10: his practices with the team, the annoyance hardly the strongest 380 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 10: defensive line in Washington, so the game playing kind of 381 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 10: changes in the team and the passage you're running. So 382 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 10: sound a little bit more of that presence in the 383 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 10: Week two against the Giants, but that's something I'm keeping 384 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 10: my eye on me to have more night down So 385 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 10: you have to get players like Michael Wilson involved because 386 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 10: he really hasn't been quite yet the main receiver has 387 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 10: really been tied in. Yeah, heard, So I'm looking to 388 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 10: see more of that connection now that Josh Doobbins entering 389 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 10: his third week, first time in his careers, he's getting 390 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 10: three straight starts. But that is a player during the 391 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 10: Michael Wilson that I think if this team can really 392 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 10: start to rely on him, I think that he can 393 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 10: bring a lot to this offense. 394 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 12: Danny, with Buddha Baker now being on IR obviously not 395 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 12: being an aspect in this game, who's a locker room guy, 396 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 12: locker room leader that has potentially stepped up that you've 397 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 12: seen maybe this week or in practice to maybe keep 398 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 12: an eye on, that might be considered an underdog. 399 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: In this matchup. 400 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 10: You know, that's just good question. I mean this team, 401 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 10: I mean you were talked about early adversity of the 402 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 10: teams without their best player on offense and Kyler Murray 403 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 10: and their best players and Buddha Baker and Buddah Baker, 404 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 10: it's almost hard to describe because he brings what mos 405 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 10: people see of how he brings what he brings on 406 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 10: the field. It's also what he brings in that locker room. 407 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 10: I mean, our defensive coordinator Nick Wallas is talking to 408 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 10: the media this week and said, you need all of 409 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 10: loving guys. He even tried to enmulate all of what 410 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 10: the Baker brings to this team. 411 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 11: So that is something that you're going to have to 412 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 11: find someone. You're right, You're gonna have to find someone 413 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 11: to step up as a leader. I think if you're 414 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 11: looking on consense, when you're looking there isn't a ton 415 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 11: of veteran presence. But I do think in that DV room, 416 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 11: Jamie Thompson, who normally look that duo of Buda Baker, 417 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 11: is experienced also lead by example, and I think you're 418 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 11: going to really have to continue to rely on David Collins, 419 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 11: who's been here a few years now, first round picks 420 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 11: for the Cardinals, who's made the move full time outside 421 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 11: as an edge rusher and has really played well in 422 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 11: that transition that we've seen for the first two games. 423 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 11: And I think that's somebody that you're going to have 424 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 11: to look on and rely on to stop up in 425 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 11: Buddha Baker's absence. So there's a lot of adversity that 426 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 11: this team, unfortunately is already facing. But you know, Cowboys 427 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 11: is well now unforture. 428 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 10: And that folks to a certain degree. 429 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 5: Hey, Danny, you mentioned Josh Dobbs earlier, who's playing quarterback 430 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 5: in place of Murray and making his third straight start. 431 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: I don't know how many interactions that you've had with him, 432 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 5: because he's only been there a month, but I'd love 433 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 5: to hear what he's like as a person, because there 434 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: aren't too many aerospace engineers in the NFL right who 435 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 5: play who play quarterback, and but just he's a remarkable 436 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 5: story obviously, a very bright young man and a great story, 437 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: you know, a great spokesperson, and really an inspiration for 438 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: folks with alopecia. He's done a lot of community things 439 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 5: with that. And he can run now when he ran 440 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 5: over the dB, you know on his long touchdown run. 441 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 5: He's got some legs. It's not the skiddery fast necessarily 442 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: like Kyler Murray. But he's gonna be a threat with 443 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: his legs against this Cowboys defense, isn't he. 444 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 11: You hit the nail on the head with all things 445 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 11: about Josh Doabbs and the interactions I've had with him. 446 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 11: Phil far Christy just a really nice guy, very seems 447 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 11: very honest and open with the media and very smart. 448 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 11: And that was the first adjectives we heard for at 449 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 11: least a week from any coach or teammate we asked 450 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 11: about Josh Dobbs after he was traded. There was intelligence, 451 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 11: and that was the first word. And Dobbs actually made 452 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 11: a joke of look, it's not rocket science, right. Quarterback 453 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 11: is a very siblibral position, so he knows he could 454 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 11: handle that. I think the situation that he's found themself 455 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 11: in that he has handled himself really well in terms 456 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 11: of quickly grasping this scheme. Week one a week two 457 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 11: was a huge jump in confidence in his mobility and 458 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 11: his quick releases, and you saw that throughout the entire offense. 459 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 11: Josh Dobbs is actually a quarterback. This staff, this front 460 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 11: office was interested in earlier in the offseason. Just a 461 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 11: matter of his contract and things like that kind of 462 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 11: held up getting him sooner than they did. But I 463 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 11: think that all things considered, he has fit in pretty well. 464 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 11: And Dobbs does have some experience with some coaches on 465 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 11: the bass offensive corn eater Drew Petsing, so all our 466 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 11: quarterbacks coach into a woll force. They all spent some 467 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 11: time together in Cleveland. So Josh Doobbs has shown that 468 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 11: he has the ability the accuracy for. 469 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 10: Some of those longer throwers. 470 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 11: We finally saw some chunk plays last week that we 471 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 11: did not see week one in Washington. So that mobility 472 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 11: is really what this coaching bass was working for. That 473 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 11: was part of the reason they walked away from veteran 474 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 11: Colt McCoy, just because Josh Dobbs has that mobility You're rightsy, 475 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 11: not to the Kyler Murray extent, but he is able 476 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 11: to extend the plays, get out of the pocket, and 477 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 11: we saw him use his legs and also that he's 478 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 11: not afraid to truck and defend you're getting into the 479 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 11: end zone and also on that two point conversion. So 480 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 11: because Dobbs has been here for such a short amount 481 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 11: of time, it is realistic that he can make a 482 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 11: big jump from one week to the next. So I 483 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 11: am expecting to see some more growth from him now 484 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 11: from week two to week three. 485 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 6: Danny, There's been a lot of changes, as you've mentioned, 486 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 6: as far as the trade, the training staff, the coaching staff, 487 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 6: and obviously the head coach change and Ganning coming in 488 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 6: and everything. How do you think the team has responded to, 489 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: you know, the coaching changes, and do you think that 490 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 6: plays a role and just kind of how how things 491 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 6: have kind of unfolded this first couple of weeks. Them 492 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 6: trying to gel them trying to get better communication, like 493 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 6: you like you just talked about, you know, Dobbs is 494 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 6: just coming in and this is his third full week. 495 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 6: How do you think the team is responded to the 496 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 6: changes that have been made in the off season. 497 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 11: I think that's the team, excuse me, has been responding well. 498 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 11: I mean, this is the team's been doing in the 499 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 11: off season. You were going to start the season without 500 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 11: your franchise quarterbacks. You end up trading away one of 501 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 11: your top receivers. Are not trading away, but releasing one 502 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 11: of your top receivers can be on your hopkins. You 503 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 11: trade away your former first round picking, Isaiah Simmons. So 504 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 11: there's been a lot of change, but has seemed like 505 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 11: the culture that this new coaching staff under Jonathan Gannon 506 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 11: and this new front office under Money's important that the 507 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 11: culture they're settying really has been panning out well for 508 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 11: the team. We've seen that in the effort and the 509 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 11: aggression that they've played with through two games. Actually asked 510 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 11: Jonathan Gannon a question about the culture earlier this week 511 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 11: when we were talking to the media. Obviously, winning culture 512 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 11: means winning games, right, and that's not the case when 513 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 11: you're own team like Arizona. But I asked him how 514 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 11: much he has seeing the culture work that they were 515 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 11: putting in all off seasons getting here, how we've seen 516 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 11: that through the team through these first two weeks again, 517 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 11: and told me that he has seen it and the 518 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 11: work and not getting down on themselves and showing up 519 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 11: Monday ready to learn and to get better, and that 520 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 11: the culture they're trying to create is not necessarily results driven, 521 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 11: but more process driven. And when you are process driven, 522 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 11: that's where you're going to get those resals. 523 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but building a culture takes time. And there's been 524 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 5: so much turn over with the roster, what like fifty 525 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: seven percent of the players something like that. Yeah, and 526 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: you also your offensive coordinator and your defensive coordinator is 527 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 5: their first time to call play. So my point is, 528 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 5: and your quarterback's been in the building less than a month, 529 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: So this is something that takes time. The question is, 530 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: what about the Cardinals' fan base. Are they showing some 531 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: patients or is the are the Daggers already out? 532 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 11: No, I will say, thankfully they are showing patients, which 533 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 11: is good. I think. I think there's hope right, which 534 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 11: is what if you're a Cardinal fan after having a 535 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 11: rough year and a half the way that's two years ago, 536 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 11: the wheels sall off and last year, that's what you want. 537 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 11: I think that all started when manriiof Support brought in 538 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 11: Jonathan Gannon. Then you saw the staff being put together, 539 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 11: when you saw the draft, what maniof Support was able 540 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 11: to do, making trade to get more picks, planning ahead 541 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 11: for the future, the picks he made, and getting Paris 542 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 11: Johnson Junior, an offensive lineman that you're planning on having 543 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 11: here for a very long time. 544 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 10: Let's play very well. 545 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 11: Might I add to his first two games, the decisions 546 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 11: that have been made in terms of cap space, bringing 547 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 11: in types of players that are the right fit on 548 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 11: and off the field. I think that that is what 549 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 11: the Cardinals fans are having hope about. Is you can 550 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 11: see that things are moving in the right direction, and 551 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 11: that goes back to the culture that even though this 552 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 11: team is oh and too, I think it's safe to 553 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 11: say that they have exceeded the expectations before the season 554 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 11: started on what people were expecting from them. And that 555 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 11: doesn't just come from the personnel and the skills that 556 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 11: they have on the field, but that goes back to 557 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 11: the effort and the type of you know, the passion 558 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 11: that they are playing with. This team has had a 559 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 11: very difficult time though, winning at home at State From Stadium. 560 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 11: The only home win last season was Thursday night against 561 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 11: the same so fans are understandably desperate to get that home. 562 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 10: Win, right If you're going to the game, you want 563 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 10: to be able. 564 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 11: To see your home team win in person. But I 565 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 11: don't realize there are daggers at this stand base Right now, 566 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 11: it feels like you can tell that this team is 567 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 11: really working on correcting things and creating long term success 568 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 11: on the field. 569 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: In the locker room, well, Danny, I guess the final 570 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: question is what color is your family going to wear 571 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: it this weekend? 572 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 11: That's a good question. I think I know which part 573 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 11: of my family. All my family lives in Dallas, but 574 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 11: I know some of my family's gonna be rocking Cardinals gear, 575 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 11: like my little te O nephew, who when I was 576 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 11: talking to him on the phone, other day. Had picture 577 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 11: day this week at three school and told me that 578 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 11: he's gonna wear his bird Gen jersey, which was his 579 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 11: Kyler Murray jersey. So I think that part of my 580 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 11: family will be in Cardinals gear. My dad for sure 581 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 11: is going to be split. I know him well enough 582 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 11: to know he's going to be wearing a Cowboy shirt 583 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 11: and a Cardinal tat or maybe Vice persona. But he 584 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 11: will definitely still be rocking some of that Cowboy's blue, 585 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 11: but still some of that Cardinals red, which I appreciate. 586 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 11: It's going to be. It's gonna be pretty split. I 587 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 11: think most of my family. At the end of the day, 588 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 11: it's the win win. If the Cowboys win, that's great, 589 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 11: and if the Cardinals win, that's great because I'm happy. 590 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. Well, Danny, thank 591 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: you so much for joining us on here. It's so 592 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: great to hear from you again. And I'm sure everybody 593 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: listening Miss is hearing you on here as well, so 594 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: we appreciate you keep absolutely killing it in Arizona, and 595 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: we are big Danny Surrek fans here on Girls Talk, 596 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: Boys Talk. 597 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 11: I appreciate also much thanks having me on. I'm gonna 598 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 11: tell you guys what I told them earlier on Mick Shots, 599 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 11: which is, with the exception of this week's game, I 600 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 11: hope you guys have a great rest of your season. 601 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 5: Back got you, back. 602 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 7: At you after this weekend. 603 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: See you on the fields, See. 604 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: On the field Sunday. 605 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: Ah WAITSTI all right, thanks so much, Danny. We're going 606 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: to take our next break here on the podcast. 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Officially official, 644 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: everybody again, it's it's gutting. 645 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: I usually have. 646 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: Found a tweet from Micah that he just tweeted out 647 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: if we want to talk about that, Yeah, he. 648 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 6: Just tweeted out, I am my brother's keeper. You know, 649 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 6: I you know, there's nothing more that needs to be said. 650 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 6: And honestly, I feel like im one. I believe him. 651 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 6: He said, I am my brother's keeper. I got you 652 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 6: seven No more needs to be said. And one thing 653 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 6: about Micah and also this defense is, even though this 654 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 6: is this is gut wrenching and it hurts, I feel 655 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 6: like they have the guys to to you know, to 656 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 6: take the step up and to rally together. They have 657 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 6: that that chemistry and that culture on that side of 658 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 6: the ball to protect each other and to you know, 659 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 6: figure things out. So I believe Micah when he says 660 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 6: I'm my brother's keeper. 661 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 11: I believe that. 662 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: And the thing about Trayvon is uh, he is a 663 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: locker room leader. 664 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: He's very quiet and how he does it, but he 665 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: leads by example and he talked about that earlier, I 666 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 4: believe right before the season it started. 667 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: He he talked about leading by example and he doesn't 668 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: necessarily have to be the most vocal guy in the 669 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: room to be a leader. And I think, you know, 670 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: even though he's not the most vocal guy, and you know, 671 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: when he talks, he's very self spoken and he's not 672 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: you know, going to be loud with with what he's saying, 673 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: his actions are very loud. And he's the kind of 674 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: guy that's very intentional with his actions, very intentional with 675 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: how he works, and he's very methodical in that way. 676 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: And so yeah, a big blow is as far as 677 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: there are the defense's brother, a teammate, somebody that they 678 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: really look up to and look, you know, look to 679 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: as as that leader. 680 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: So yeah, wishing Trayvon all the best. 681 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: We can't we can't say it enough here, We really, 682 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: uh we hate to see any injury happen, but when 683 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: it's somebody like Trayvon, who is just a man absolutely 684 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: projected to have such a good season, it stings. And 685 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: so wishing him the best. 686 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: But now we kind of have to. 687 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: Look at how does this impact this weekend? Christy, we 688 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: were just talking about that, going into a little bit 689 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: more of those options, how it could impact the matchup, 690 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: the matchups potentially Josh Stobbs going a little bit more 691 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 2: downfield with his passes, trying to bully the weaker side, 692 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: if you will, the weaker man with whoever they decided 693 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: to put out there. But Christy, what is the most 694 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: viable option at this point. 695 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 5: When you look at the Yeah, take Deron Bland and 696 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 5: move him from nickel to outside. He stepped in for 697 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 5: Anthony Brown last year and hey Dern Bland helped save 698 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 5: this backfield the defensive backfield through the last half of 699 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: last season, led the team in interceptions with five, already 700 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 5: has a pick six this year. The only thing is he, 701 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 5: you know, has done his work in the nickel and 702 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: so but like I said earlier, I think that there 703 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 5: are enough versatile players, there are enough chess pieces that 704 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 5: that dan Quinn can can move around that it's really 705 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 5: going to be more matchup driven week to win, whether 706 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: you're going with the big nickel and things like that. 707 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just the thing is it's the playmaking 708 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 5: part of it, and we know that Deron Bland is 709 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 5: one of those. But having Donovan Wilson come back this week, 710 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 5: and I know it's a different position, he plays safety, 711 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 5: but what has been the strength of the defense through 712 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 5: the first two weeks of these this season. It's the 713 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 5: same as it was last year. It's the ability to 714 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 5: take the ball away and to get a good pass rush. 715 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 5: And so Donovan Wilson coming back is one of those 716 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 5: catalytic players, one of the guys that, like Trayvon Diggs, 717 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 5: makes plays on the ball. And as the coaches always say, 718 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 5: you know, you look at the last few seasons, if 719 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 5: there was a takeaway, Donna was usually involved. So again, 720 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 5: there's never good timing for a serious injury like a 721 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 5: torn acl to one of your superstar players. But at 722 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 5: least it's fortuitous that Wilson has been a full participant 723 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 5: this week and looks to make his season debut on 724 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 5: Sunday against Arizona. 725 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 6: You make a very good point about the safety room 726 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 6: and the safety room being strong kind of levels this 727 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 6: out a little bit more in my opinion, just the 728 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 6: way that they're able to be used, like you're talking 729 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 6: about in the nickel, but also to just depend on 730 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 6: what coverages and some of these these safeties are hybrids 731 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 6: and that's helpful too. 732 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 4: So I agree with you. 733 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 6: I'm very curious to see how dan Quinn goes forward 734 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 6: and how he rolls these guys out there. But when 735 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 6: you talk about Donovan Wilson coming back, I think that's 736 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 6: huge two for this next game. When you talk about 737 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 6: I heard Michae McCarthy mention today rush lane discipline. 738 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 4: Yes, especially with a guy like Josh Dobbs. 739 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 6: You guys talked very heavily about you and Danny talked 740 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 6: about his running ability. And so I was able to 741 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 6: catch up with DeMont Clark about this earlier, I mean 742 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 6: earlier in the locker room, and he just was explaining 743 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 6: what rush lane discipline is because I wanted to know. 744 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 6: When he basically said that when when a defense like 745 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 6: the Cowboys can rush four, it's four on five. So 746 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 6: the offense does have the advantage with the running back 747 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 6: being able to well the running back, the quarterback being 748 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 6: able to run the ball and escape if necessary. And 749 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 6: he really spoke about how much they emphasized in this 750 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 6: offseason because that's what gashed them a lot last year 751 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 6: Josh Dobbs gashed him. 752 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Tennessee, yes, Tennessee. 753 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. When the rush lane discipline and where that comes 754 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 6: from is the A and B gap, So the defensive line, 755 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 6: the interior has to be disciplined and making sure that 756 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 6: they do enough to clog up that area. So that's 757 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 6: not an option for him, but incomes Donovan Wilson and 758 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 6: those guys when you talk about him escaping possibly to 759 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 6: the edges, so you can have it's either a linebacker 760 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 6: or however they decide to do it. So I just 761 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 6: thought that was really important, especially moving forward with this team, 762 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 6: because that was a kryptonite for this defense last year 763 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 6: where mobile quarterbacks end And sorry he's but yeah. So 764 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 6: that was just something for the matchup that I thought 765 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 6: was important. It's rustling discipline. 766 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 5: In one of the things with matchup though, because Josh 767 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 5: Dobbs spoke to the media in Arizona today and so 768 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 5: he was asking that most of the questions were about 769 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 5: him trucking running over the defender into the end zone 770 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 5: on that I think it was a twenty seven yard 771 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 5: touchdown run. But Josh pointed out that they were playing 772 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 5: a lot of man last week and what that means 773 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 5: is once from Dobbs's standpoint, once he broke through, once 774 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 5: he came out of the pocket and started running up field. Yeah, 775 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 5: the backs are turned because the defenders they're following their 776 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 5: man in coverage as opposed to a zone where your 777 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 5: eyes are always on the quarterback. So I'm not predicting 778 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 5: that it's going to be all man this week, or 779 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 5: that it's going to be all zone. But that's one 780 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 5: of the things where you when you see a quarterback 781 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 5: get a lot of yards downfield. It's often when there's 782 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 5: a lack of the discipline, as Ayisha's talking about in 783 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 5: terms of maintaining the gaps the discipline, but also it's 784 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 5: often man defense with the defensive backs their backs are 785 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 5: turned and so by the time that they see that, 786 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 5: you know the guy's taken off their way downfield, or 787 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 5: you know they're not reacting as quickly as if they 788 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 5: were in his own. 789 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: Something I wanted to ask you guys, was Jordan Lewis 790 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: only getting ten snaps. It's not really a lot to 791 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: base how he looks so far, but from what you saw, 792 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: what are some things you can gather from Jordan Lewis 793 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: coming off of the Liz Frank injury. That was horrific, 794 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 2: But credit to him for coming back rehaving back some things. 795 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: You saw that Jaylu looked like Jaylu once again. 796 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 9: Maybe were the goal. 797 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 5: I was told before the game on the sideline that 798 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 5: the goal was to get him ten to fifteen snaps. 799 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 5: He got ten. But then keep in mind, there were 800 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 5: only what forty three or forty seven offensive snaps in 801 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 5: the whole game, just because they couldn't keep a drive 802 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 5: going and the Cowboys had the huge edge and time 803 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: of possession, so there weren't that many defensive plays. But 804 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 5: you know, to go from a ten to fifteen pitch 805 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 5: count to thirty plus, you know, that's that's quite a change. 806 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 5: So I'll be interested to see how they try and 807 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 5: manage his amount of snaps this weekend. 808 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 809 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, to answer your question, he came in and had 810 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 6: to pass break up. I mean, that's that's Jordan Lewis. 811 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 6: In college, they call them velcrow just because of how 812 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 6: sticky he can be in coverage. And one thing that 813 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 6: I was looking for looking for from him and I 814 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 6: will continue to look for from him, but his the 815 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 6: list Frank injury without Christy, I really did not understand 816 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 6: the severity of this injury until you explained it to 817 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 6: us and just kind of explain that how the recovery 818 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 6: is and how it can kick guys out of like 819 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 6: this game. It's something that if your recovery does not 820 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 6: go well, can stick with you for a long time. 821 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 6: So with it being a foot injury, I've been really 822 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 6: looking at how he plants, like how comfortable is he 823 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 6: is he confident in planting on that foot and seeing 824 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 6: him break on that ball, take off stride for stride, 825 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 6: let me know that his confidence is there. Again, We've 826 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 6: talked about it on this team plenty of times that 827 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 6: the mental part of this is important, and so that'll 828 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 6: just be a continuous thing that I'm looking for from him. 829 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 6: Is that because it might get sore, it might you know, 830 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 6: that's something that might happen. How does he continue to 831 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 6: seem mentally and confident with his ability because the natural 832 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 6: ability is there with him, it's just him being confident 833 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 6: and what he's still able to do. 834 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: I also think too, along with that confidence is you 835 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: don't want him to lose it because Duron Blind is 836 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: playing like Doron blind too, So for him to take 837 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: the step back and be like Okay, this is your 838 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: pony and horse show. And now I'm here and I'm 839 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: still gonna be me, and I'm not gonna let kind 840 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 2: of what happened while I was gone dictate how I 841 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 2: feel now, because that's easy to do as a human, 842 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: especially on such a competitive environment. With that, it's easy 843 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: to just be like, uh, well, But the way Jordan 844 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: Lewis is is he's kind of just he has a fire. 845 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: When I think of Jordan Lewis, I think of fire, 846 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 2: and he has this fire to him that just never 847 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: dimmed through any of the time that we saw him 848 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: sitting out, whether it was in the locker room, just 849 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: in passing. 850 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 4: He has a fire that does not go out at 851 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 4: any point. And I think it's so important to note 852 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 4: that about Jay Lou today. 853 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: But real quick, before we run out of time, ladies, 854 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 2: who do you expect to have a very big game 855 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: going into this matchup based on what you've seen from 856 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 2: the Cardinals, which you've seen from the Cowboys this week? 857 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 2: Who has a big game for you game prediction wise? 858 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 4: What are we predicting? 859 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 5: I think, as Danny was talking about all of the 860 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 5: problems along the Cardinals defensive line with their injuries that 861 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 5: this even though the Cowboys are dealing with some injuries 862 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 5: along the offensive line. I think that the Cowboys run 863 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 5: the ball and keep running until Arizona stops him and 864 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 5: it be another big time of possession advantage this week 865 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 5: and more plays because I say, just big, big game 866 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 5: for Tony Pollard. 867 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, she took mine. 868 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 6: I was about to say, anybody that is a running back, 869 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 6: all right. 870 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 4: Take a new one. 871 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 7: Oh, Tater Todds, Uh, that's cheating. 872 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 4: You can't just take other people. Take a new one. 873 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, we're trying to end on a positive note. 874 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 2: It's a little somber trying to end on a little 875 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: bit of a positive note. 876 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 6: I just wonder if we see I mean, I don't 877 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 6: know if they're going to just try to run. 878 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 5: The ball, but if they are, well they'll take their 879 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 5: shots too, you know. And on's the thing. Once they 880 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 5: have to commit more people to stop the run, then 881 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 5: you ride over them in the passing game or play 882 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 5: action them. How about to run bland stepping up and shining. 883 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 6: That's fair. I do think the linebackers will have some opportunity, 884 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 6: maybe a little bit more opportunity than they did even 885 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 6: last week. Because if you look at their snap count, 886 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 6: the true light linebackers played limited snaps last week just 887 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 6: because of how things unfolded. So I'm gonna go with 888 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 6: three to three. I'm gonna go with the mont Clarks. 889 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 2: He has a good day, all right, cool, I'm gonna 890 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: go with Jake Ferguson. And maybe it doesn't come up 891 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 2: in the passing game, but I think this tight end 892 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: room has a little bit of a fire under them 893 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: right now because of just how things have played. 894 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 4: Out these last couple of weeks. 895 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: You start, you started to see the fireing night last week, 896 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 2: You're really going to see the best of Jake Ferguson. 897 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 2: I think this game, whether it be blocking or being 898 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: that yack monster that we know he can be. 899 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 4: So I'm going Fergie. But ladies, that is all the 900 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 4: time we have today here on the podcast. 901 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: This is our Friday, as you all know, so we 902 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: won't be back here until Monday, four o'clock Central time 903 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 2: here on Dallascowboys dot Com. We're gonna have plenty to 904 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 2: talk about post Cowboys and Cardinals matchup. Christy be safe 905 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: on the road, have all of the best time getting 906 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: us all of those little nuggets that you can bring 907 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: back to us here on the podcast next week. 908 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 5: And you went the cookies from the team plane. 909 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 7: That's what you want. 910 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, okay, Christy brings us cookies. 911 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 5: So yeah, they believe it or not, they literally have 912 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 5: milk and cookies on the Cowboys team charter. 913 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 2: There you go, and we're trying to get some of 914 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 2: those cookies. So Christy, thank you so much. I ushould 915 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: thank you so much. We will be back here, same time, 916 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: at same place next week, starting on Monday once again, 917 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: so have a great rest of your day. Everybody, please 918 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 2: take care of yourselves, have a great weekend, and we 919 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: will see you next week. This has been Girls Talkboys Talk, 920 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 2: presented by Jig South before dating partner the Dallas Cowboys. 921 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 922 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,959 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.