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Speaker 1: family and whistleblowers have come forward.
Speaker 2: So what did they say? It's our two part.
Speaker 1: Series from Washington, DC. It's Verdict Senator Ted Cruz, Senater,
Speaker 1: it's like midnight. Whistleblowers have talked today and we're sitting
Speaker 1: here with Congressman James Comer, our guest for a two
Speaker 1: part series. This is probably gonna be one of my
Speaker 1: favorite episodes that we've ever done. And we're gonna go
Speaker 1: an order of how we got to these whistleblowers. But
Speaker 1: before we even get to that, you and I talked
Speaker 1: for pulling an audible before the show. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: out exactly what those whistleblowers said today in front of
Speaker 1: the committee with Congressman Comer.
Speaker 3: Well, Ben, let me welcome comm to Washington, DC.
Speaker 2: It's good to be here. It is almost midnight.
Speaker 3: You're out of Texas, you're out of Memphis, you are
Speaker 3: in the swamp, you are in the depth. So my
Speaker 3: friend James Comber congressman from the great state of Kentucky,
Speaker 3: chairman of the House Oversight Committee, has been deep up
Speaker 3: personal with Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family.
Speaker 3: And I got to say, when we started using that
Speaker 3: phrase Biden crime family, I thought it was too harsh.
Speaker 3: I was like a little hesitant. Okay, that seems hyperbolic.
Speaker 3: I gotta say every damn day that unfolds, that's less
Speaker 3: and less exaggeration. And so James has been the reason
Speaker 3: we're starting so late is he's been voting till eleven
Speaker 3: o'clock at night, so he just left the House floor.
Speaker 3: This is the reality of Washington and today this is
Speaker 3: gonna air on Thursday, but today, Wednesday is we're sitting
Speaker 3: here almost midnight. You had a hearing in the House
Speaker 3: of Representatives. That was a big, big deal. You had
Speaker 3: two ground breaking whistleblowers. And so I just want to
Speaker 3: start by asking what happened today. If someone's busy, they're
Speaker 3: driving to work, it's Thursday morning, they're driving to work,
Speaker 3: they didn't have time to turn on the TV yesterday,
Speaker 3: they didn't watch the testimony, So what did they miss?
Speaker 3: What happened in the House of Representatives? On Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we had a very substantive hearing on
Speaker 4: a very serious subject. The subject was the Biden criminal activity,
Speaker 4: and the two witnesses we had were I think the
Speaker 4: most credible witnesses we've had in front of the oversight
Speaker 4: commending the entire seven years I've been in Congress. These
Speaker 4: were the two highest ranking IRS career employees from the
Speaker 4: International Tax Crime Division. So these were the guys that
Speaker 4: investigate all the suspicious wires, all the foreign influence, any
Speaker 4: type of tax evasion from foreign entities, the influx of
Speaker 4: illegal Chinese money. These are the guys that do that,
Speaker 4: and they're part of an elite team. And they're only
Speaker 4: twelve on this team. So this was two of the
Speaker 4: twelve one sixth of the entire international Tax Fraud team
Speaker 4: for the IRS. And what they had to say was
Speaker 4: very concerning because I never knew over the past six
Speaker 4: months whether or not the RS even you about the
Speaker 4: shell companies that the Bidens had, if even you about
Speaker 4: all the suspicious activity reports that Treasury had that showed
Speaker 4: that the Bidens were laundering money through shell companies through
Speaker 4: various banks.
Speaker 5: You know, pretty serious accusation.
Speaker 4: We've been talking about this, and the Democrats have said, well,
Speaker 4: there's no evidence, that's not true, that's fake news, Russian disinformation.
Speaker 4: So we finally had two whistleblowers come forward. They gave
Speaker 4: a transcribed interview to the Ways and Means Committee, which
Speaker 4: is the appropriate process of the ones, as you know,
Speaker 4: in the House that has jurisdiction over the irs.
Speaker 5: Then they agreed to come to.
Speaker 4: Committee hearing for the House Oversight Committee. The American people
Speaker 4: got to see today a six hour hearing with fifty
Speaker 4: members of Congress, each having six minutes to ask these
Speaker 4: these iris suposial blowers questions, and there were substantive questions
Speaker 4: on the Republican side. Now, the Democrats, all they thought
Speaker 4: about was Trump and racism.
Speaker 5: And things like that.
Speaker 4: But we asked very subjective questions, and what we learned
Speaker 4: was that the Bidens have committed a series of crimes.
Speaker 4: There were many more tax evasion issues than what Hunter
Speaker 4: Biden pled guilty to. The Irish Supssal blowers had investigated
Speaker 4: this for five years and they were told to stand
Speaker 4: down by the Department of Justice. And what happened is
Speaker 4: they took so long they let a lot of the statutes,
Speaker 4: the limitations expire, to where the penalties that the Bidens
Speaker 4: were going to have to plead guilty to kept shrinking
Speaker 4: and shrinking and shrinking. There was nothing left.
Speaker 2: Ye are serving zero jail time, zero jail time.
Speaker 4: Anyone else in America would already be in prison for
Speaker 4: the amount of money they evade.
Speaker 3: All right, So let's start at an initial point, these
Speaker 3: two whistleblowers. Look, an initial assessment you've got to make.
Speaker 3: The House of Representatives has to make if we see
Speaker 3: an impeachment trial, the Senate has to make, and ultimately
Speaker 3: the American people have to make is are these guys credible?
Speaker 3: Are they telling the truth? If they're lying, that's not
Speaker 3: very persuasive. And so if you're trying to assess, right,
Speaker 3: are these credible witnesses, one of the questions you ask
Speaker 3: is do they have a bias? You know, if you
Speaker 3: have a witness who is, say a disgruntled employee that
Speaker 3: got fired, sometimes they make up all sorts of crazy stories.
Speaker 3: If you have a witness as a partisan, maybe they're
Speaker 3: a hardcore Republican. They hate Joe Biden, so they'll come
Speaker 3: in and testify to something nasty because they've got a
Speaker 3: political bias. So one of the things that I think
Speaker 3: is striking is that both of these guys their career
Speaker 3: IRS employees, they've spent their entire professional life working with
Speaker 3: the IRS. They're both Democrats. Neither of them were partisan Republicans.
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone asked today, but I suspect
Speaker 3: neither of them voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: I think that's a good suspicion.
Speaker 3: They've said they're Democrats, they've identified as Democrats. The number
Speaker 3: of career IRS employees who are Democrats who voted for
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, if that's not zero, it's pretty to durn close,
Speaker 3: very close. So that suggests there's not a reason on
Speaker 3: the face to doubt what they're saying. They still might
Speaker 3: be lying. You've got to test what they're saying. Anyone
Speaker 3: that comes forward with serious allegations of criminality, and to
Speaker 3: be clear, what they've alleged is criminality by Hunter Biden.
Speaker 3: But look, if we were just talking about Hunter Biden,
Speaker 3: he is a troubled soul, he has substance abuse issues.
Speaker 3: If it were just Hunter Biden, this wouldn't be national news.
Speaker 3: But they're also a legend criminal conduct by Merrick Garland,
Speaker 3: the Attorney General of the United States under Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: and they are ultimately a leegend criminal conduct by Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: the sitting president of the United States.
Speaker 4: They were and they were headed towards Joe. They wanted
Speaker 4: to interview Hunter. They wanted to interview Joe Biden's grandchildren.
Speaker 2: They when you say they, so if people understand who
Speaker 2: is they, they is who are the two with us?
Speaker 4: There were more than two. There were seven that were
Speaker 4: set to interview Hunter Biden and his children. So they
Speaker 4: had a plan, and they had a plan.
Speaker 5: It was IRS employees as well as FBI employees.
Speaker 1: So were they working together or separations working together? So
Speaker 1: they all come together, they'd all agree that they should be.
Speaker 4: Interfew gotten to the point to where they we need
Speaker 4: to knock on his door and say, hey, where is
Speaker 4: all this, what's the source of this money? What did
Speaker 4: you do to receive this money from?
Speaker 2: You said, we're going to knock on his door.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I found really stunning is
Speaker 3: what the testimony was that they're getting ready to knock
Speaker 3: on Hunter Biden's door. And if you're doing an investigation,
Speaker 3: you knock on a suspects door. You want to interview them,
Speaker 3: You want to catch them off guard. You want to
Speaker 3: get them to say something they're not expecting, like, you
Speaker 3: want them to to get them to say something stupid,
Speaker 3: because the sad thing is criminals really are stupid. They
Speaker 3: say all sorts of dumb things. So what did the
Speaker 3: whistleblowers tell us happen? That is unusual when they're getting
Speaker 3: ready to knock on Hunter's door.
Speaker 4: The Secret Service, because at the time they were going
Speaker 4: to knock on Hunter's door was at the point where
Speaker 4: Joe Biden just got elected president, so he had Secret
Speaker 4: Service protection and he had the transition team. The Secret
Speaker 4: Service was notified that Hunter Biden was about to be
Speaker 4: approached by IRS and FBI employees, and then the Biden
Speaker 4: transition team was approached. Then the Biden lawyers called Hunter Biden,
Speaker 4: and then they called the FAI agents and the RS
Speaker 4: agents and said, don't knock on that door. If he
Speaker 4: wants to come out, he'll come out and.
Speaker 5: Talk to you. Just wait.
Speaker 4: Well they waited, and nothing ever happened, and then they
Speaker 4: were told.
Speaker 5: To go home.
Speaker 2: So they were there at his house.
Speaker 5: They were there at his house.
Speaker 3: So let me underscore the Department of Justice tim off Hunter. Hey,
Speaker 3: they're coming to question you and Hunter called it as lawyers,
Speaker 3: and they said, don't talk to him.
Speaker 2: On guard's side.
Speaker 3: Like in any other circumstance, if you're investigating criminal conduct,
Speaker 3: do you tip off the suspect beforehand?
Speaker 5: They said that today.
Speaker 4: No, they said that never happened in their decade long
Speaker 4: service to the IRS.
Speaker 2: When they were told to go home. Who told them
Speaker 2: to go home?
Speaker 5: Their superior at the IRS?
Speaker 2: Was that unprecedent from their testimony.
Speaker 5: That they said it never happened before?
Speaker 3: All right, you talked about suspicious activity reports, and there's
Speaker 3: been some discussion of this. Look, if you're at home,
Speaker 3: you're watching TV, you're trying to figure out what these are?
Speaker 3: What is a suspicious activity report? And like when is
Speaker 3: it made? When does it occur?
Speaker 4: I knew a lot about these because I was the
Speaker 4: director of a bank for over a decade. A suspicious
Speaker 4: activity report is when the bank files noticed with the
Speaker 4: Treasury Cabinet that they suspect their client has committed a crime.
Speaker 4: Does it mean they committed a crime? They have a
Speaker 4: strong suspicion that a crime was committed. So it's to
Speaker 4: protect the bank as well.
Speaker 3: So how frequently do these things are?
Speaker 4: Very seldom, Despite what the Washington boast or in their
Speaker 4: defense of the Biden they say, well, everybody has a
Speaker 4: suspicious activity report. That is beloney. I was on a
Speaker 4: bank board for ten years. I think we issued two
Speaker 4: over the course of ten years.
Speaker 3: And how many were issued concerning Hunter Biden and Joe
Speaker 3: Biden and the Biden family.
Speaker 4: Over one hundred and seventy. They were direct.
Speaker 2: You were at a bank and they issued too.
Speaker 4: If you had two sars, they're called sars in the
Speaker 4: banking industry, if you had two stars against you, it
Speaker 4: would be hard for you to open an account somewhere.
Speaker 4: There wouldn't be any bank that would want to have
Speaker 4: you as a customer because it's not worth the paperwork.
Speaker 4: Remember when the bank files one of these, you could
Speaker 4: understand this appreciates this center. That's inviting the regulators to
Speaker 4: come in and regulate.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's the last thing the bank.
Speaker 3: So one hundred and seventy get filed. That means that
Speaker 3: somebody is getting a deposit in their account. It's a
Speaker 3: big amount. It's from somewhere suspicious. I mean, what triggers it?
Speaker 3: Why you're a banker, what is it that makes you
Speaker 3: say we got to file a s R.
Speaker 4: A large transaction that comes out of the blue. So
Speaker 4: what's large? What is there a threat you had? You
Speaker 4: had a million I'll use the Robinson Walker account because
Speaker 4: we subpend.
Speaker 5: That was the first bank account we subpoened.
Speaker 2: Now, who's Robinson Walker?
Speaker 4: Rob Walker was one of the associates that they used
Speaker 4: to uh funnel money from China and then in Romania
Speaker 4: and then down and launder it down to the Biden.
Speaker 3: So he's a guy that's doing business with Hunter and
Speaker 3: Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we don't.
Speaker 5: Know what that business is. Yes, they got a three
Speaker 5: million dollar wire from from China.
Speaker 2: So this so one wire three million dollars.
Speaker 5: Three million dollars.
Speaker 4: Now, remember we got the bank records for ten years
Speaker 4: that bank account never had got three million dollar.
Speaker 2: No, but I want one. Well this is not right.
Speaker 2: That is a charming guy and he would like three
Speaker 2: million dollar. Yeah, I'm not going to do it. Yes, No,
Speaker 2: you don't have to work for three million.
Speaker 4: Apparently, so this account never had much activity in it
Speaker 4: over the course of ten years, maintained around a forty
Speaker 4: or fifty thousand dollars ballance. Then one day, out of
Speaker 4: the blue, they get a three million dollar wire from China.
Speaker 3: And so their bank says, this is weird. Yes, and
Speaker 3: it's coming from China, like, on the face of it,
Speaker 3: from China.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he'd never gotten a foreign wire before. And
Speaker 4: there's three million dollars in a in an account that's
Speaker 4: never had more than fifty thousand some months, you know,
Speaker 4: had ten thousand dollars ballance, but never more than fifty thousand.
Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, a three million dollar.
Speaker 3: Wire and then what happens to that three million dollars
Speaker 3: when it lands.
Speaker 5: Twenty four hours later?
Speaker 4: Because that's the minimum amount of time you can you
Speaker 4: have to have a deposit in the bank.
Speaker 2: For at least, like the wire needs to clear, Yeah.
Speaker 5: It needs to clear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty four hours and two minutes later, he starts
Speaker 4: you seriously, Yes, he's really twenty four hours and maybe
Speaker 4: an hour give me a right, all right, it was
Speaker 4: more than two minutes.
Speaker 5: It was like fifty six minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, nineteen pinocchios because you ad.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: So, but it's just after twenty.
Speaker 5: After twenty four hours.
Speaker 4: The next day they start wiring incremental payments to different
Speaker 4: Biden shell companies.
Speaker 2: So how many Biden sholl copes.
Speaker 4: And you know what that's called. When you set up
Speaker 4: a bunch of shell companies for the sole purpose to
Speaker 4: launder money, that's called racketeering.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to ask you. I call these
Speaker 2: dumb questions, but they're important questions.
Speaker 3: Understand this one and I'll intervene. Look, one of the
Speaker 3: great things about this podcast we try to ask lots
Speaker 3: of dumb questions. Yes, and I'll tell you, James, actually
Speaker 3: the sort of vision for this podcast. We launched it
Speaker 3: four years ago. We launched this podcast on the first
Speaker 3: night of the very first Donald Trumpet peachment, and that
Speaker 3: night we started actually at midnight. We're reliving our origins
Speaker 3: because hey, yeah, I left the Senate floor from the
Speaker 3: trial of the Trumpet peachment and I went to a
Speaker 3: studio and we recorded Verdict. And I remember with the
Speaker 3: first few times we did it we'd get into things
Speaker 3: that I'm our early production team. They said, okay, Ted,
Speaker 3: you're getting too complicated. This is too detailed, and they
Speaker 3: said dumb it down. And I said, look, people don't
Speaker 3: want dumb down. People are smart, they care about it.
Speaker 3: Now what they do want is understandable. And here's the
Speaker 3: analogy you I've used a bunch of times. If you
Speaker 3: have a terrible disease, you ended the doctor. You don't
Speaker 3: want the doctor to tell you James, you got a
Speaker 3: boo boom like you with the doctor. If I got
Speaker 3: a problem, tell me what that like? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Doctor?
Speaker 3: But you don't want them to talk to you in
Speaker 3: a way that you need, like a medical degree and expertise.
Speaker 3: So what we try to do, and what what Ben
Speaker 3: is doing asking dumb questions is to say, okay, we
Speaker 3: keep hearing about suspicious activity reports, what is that? Like
Speaker 3: a shell company? What is a shell You hear shell company?
Speaker 3: And like what does that mean?
Speaker 1: And explain the show companies connecting to money laundering, how
Speaker 1: those two come together. Because a lot of people that
Speaker 1: hear this, but they don't understand why you need so
Speaker 1: many of them and why you would cipher money into
Speaker 1: multiple shell coming.
Speaker 4: Come from the banking background, and yeah this is people
Speaker 4: want to know that for me, I mean it has
Speaker 4: a double a sword derb. But a shell company is
Speaker 4: a fake company. Okay, it's a company.
Speaker 3: So it's not a real business anything.
Speaker 4: They don't produce anything, they don't provide a good or service. Okay,
Speaker 4: they're just just do that created off.
Speaker 5: You can go to the Texas or Kentucky Secretary State.
Speaker 4: And file a company in two minutes that says Cruise
Speaker 4: and Comer energy company. But that doesn't mean we have
Speaker 4: an energy company, right, I just have an LLC limited
Speaker 4: liability company that says we're an energy company.
Speaker 5: So they just create these fake companies.
Speaker 3: And how many are we talking about? Twenty twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: so twenty different Biden fake companies. They don't have factories,
Speaker 3: they don't have machinery, the real products on real website.
Speaker 5: They don't have a business card, they don't so they're in.
Speaker 2: Twenty they don't have a storefront, they have nothing. Okay
Speaker 2: they're and so that's where the laundering. Yes, so explain
Speaker 2: how you launder money and how that works.
Speaker 5: Money laundering is hiding money.
Speaker 4: You're you're hiding the source of the money, and you're
Speaker 4: deceiving the Internet the internal revenue service to try to
Speaker 4: evade taxes. So if if the Hunter Biden was doing
Speaker 4: something legitimate for China, they could have just wired the
Speaker 4: money to Hunter Biden, but they didn't. They they sent
Speaker 4: it to a company called Robinson Walker. Then they wired
Speaker 4: it to a company called Ouasco. Then they wired it
Speaker 4: to another company called Bohee something or another, and then
Speaker 4: they start.
Speaker 3: Did these companies do anything with it? And they're just
Speaker 3: it's just it's just like a bucket to.
Speaker 2: Pour the water.
Speaker 4: If the partner that's exactly somewhere else, that's exactly what.
Speaker 4: And it was organized. This is like organized crime. This
Speaker 4: was very organized.
Speaker 3: So how did you unwind this? So you're sitting there
Speaker 3: doing a congressional investigation. If they're trying to hide it,
Speaker 3: presumably they make it hard to figure out. So so
Speaker 3: what enabled you to twenty show companies? How do you
Speaker 3: figure this out and connect the docks?
Speaker 4: Well, there was a we had a good start. Your
Speaker 4: colleagues Grassley and Johnson had done a report, Miranda Divine
Speaker 4: had written a book. There were several good reporters that
Speaker 4: have been investigating on this for a long time. We
Speaker 4: took pieces of that, and then when I became chairman
Speaker 4: and got subpoena power, then I was able to actually
Speaker 4: subpoena bank records.
Speaker 2: And the bank's cooperated.
Speaker 4: Most of the banks have cooperated. It's getting harder because
Speaker 4: here's what happened. Everyone on cable news, some people that
Speaker 4: I don't think are as smart a legal mind as
Speaker 4: you ted. We're giving me lots of advice on what
Speaker 4: to do. The first thing they need to do on
Speaker 4: day one is subpoena Hunter and Joe Biden. I didn't
Speaker 4: do that, and I think that would have been a
Speaker 4: huge mistake. I think that's what they thought I would do.
Speaker 4: If I had done that, it would have ended up
Speaker 4: in court. Then if I had subpoenaed some of these
Speaker 4: bank accounts, the bank would have said, we can't give
Speaker 4: that to you because there's ongoing litigation.
Speaker 2: Right. So what we did they started gathering.
Speaker 4: We started by subpoenaing bank records for ship accounts to
Speaker 4: some of these companies have been abandoned because they.
Speaker 5: Never were real company.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they never seen hide the money they were getting
Speaker 4: from China and Romania and Ukraine.
Speaker 5: So those bank account.
Speaker 3: So let me stop real quick. Are those the three
Speaker 3: countries that are involved so far? China, Romania and Ukraine.
Speaker 3: But all three of them, you've got payments from China,
Speaker 3: from Romania and Ukraine going to Hunter Biden, Joe Biden
Speaker 3: or the Biden families, right, not.
Speaker 4: To Joe Biden yet, but to everyone else in the
Speaker 4: Biden family.
Speaker 2: How many bidens have have you identified? They've gotten money? Nine?
Speaker 2: And and and when you say identify.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the heard the number twelve? So so what's the.
Speaker 5: We actually have nine?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: So we're proved nine, we've proved nine. I'm I would
Speaker 4: bet a lot of money if I were on the
Speaker 4: craps table, I would put odds behind three more members
Speaker 4: of the family.
Speaker 2: When you when you say there's nine, the reason nine.
Speaker 5: We haven't gone after the brother yet.
Speaker 3: And the brothers Jim, that's Joe and Frank.
Speaker 5: Don't forget about Frank.
Speaker 3: Te gotten about Frank. Okay, so I hear about Jim,
Speaker 3: all right? So how many Joe has two brothers?
Speaker 5: Two brothers?
Speaker 3: And so I got to say one of the things
Speaker 3: I've wondered. In fact, I was having dinner with some
Speaker 3: folks tonight who asked me. They said Okay, Hunter's been indicted.
Speaker 3: What about Jim? Like, what about Jim?
Speaker 1: Now, Jim was the big dog of this entity before
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden came along.
Speaker 4: Right, Why Jim's not in the in the news right now?
Speaker 4: He didn't leave a laptop laying around. But I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what Jim has done. He's in court in about
Speaker 4: four or five different states being sued by former partners
Speaker 4: for fraud.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, why has that not been covered?
Speaker 4: Well, you tell me, so we'll get to the point
Speaker 4: to where we'll start subpoenaing his bank records. I think
Speaker 4: some of these kates part of the reason we can't get.
Speaker 3: It because he's in litigation. Right the nine or twelve.
Speaker 3: You've got Hunter, You've got Jim, and Frank. That's three.
Speaker 3: Who are we talking about as the rest? Who are
Speaker 3: the other players?
Speaker 4: The other players are Frank, Frank's wife, So Frank's wife,
Speaker 4: uh huh. And we believe that Jim's got family members
Speaker 4: too that may have received wires. And then you know,
Speaker 4: ultimately with Joe, I suspect there are offshore accounts and
Speaker 4: we kind of learned that today.
Speaker 3: One of the last queste, what's the evidence of off
Speaker 3: shore accounts?
Speaker 2: That you learned today.
Speaker 4: There are the ir S whistleblowers confirmed when I asked
Speaker 4: if they had documents pertaining to foreign accounts, and they
Speaker 4: said they did.
Speaker 5: Wow, they couldn't turn them over to us.
Speaker 4: They have to go through that process and turn it
Speaker 4: over to the Ways and Means Committee, and I requested
Speaker 4: they do that and they said they would.
Speaker 3: So the three million dollars that you saw transferred in,
Speaker 3: you said that got transferred out?
Speaker 2: Where all did it go?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 5: So Rob Walker kept a third of it?
Speaker 4: There was another guy that's the.
Speaker 1: Business partners, right million, you helped lounder money. You don't
Speaker 1: do anything. Yeah, okay, I'm not sure, and you get
Speaker 1: a third.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the exact pricing on it, but that's
Speaker 3: I think that's better than pimpskin.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I don't know, Yeah, but I could. I
Speaker 2: think they take a third.
Speaker 5: Somebody else got a third, and then the bid.
Speaker 2: We know who the somebody else is pard to you
Speaker 2: and you can't.
Speaker 5: Say no, I do we put that in a report?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So somebody else got a third, somebody else got a third,
Speaker 4: and then the Biden's got one point three million of
Speaker 4: the three million.
Speaker 3: And one point three to different Biden family members.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and that's just from one take our.
Speaker 5: Transaction went to four different Biden family.
Speaker 3: So that was one suspicious activity.
Speaker 2: One and there's one hundred and how many?
Speaker 4: One hundred and sixty nine more plus just because okay,
Speaker 4: those were suspicious activity reports that were created by Joe
Speaker 4: or Hunter Biden. Then they were the subject of another
Speaker 4: one hundred suspicious activity reports.
Speaker 1: So that's two seventy if you're counting individually at least.
Speaker 3: So if you're the Treasury Department, because you Treasury is
Speaker 3: getting these these sorrows, Yes, what do they do with
Speaker 3: the SAR? Just generally speaking, they're.
Speaker 4: Supposed to turn it over to the IRS investigators, which
Speaker 4: they knew about the TSAR, so that part of the
Speaker 4: equation work. Somehow the supposed to blowers knew about the
Speaker 4: suspicious Activity report?
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: I asked these questions because this is complicated for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. So normal course of business, a bank
Speaker 1: fills out a star's report. Walk what normal is compared
Speaker 1: to what actually happened with them normally?
Speaker 4: If you get normally and here's what the suspicious activity
Speaker 4: report said. I've had access and I've read them all
Speaker 4: at Treasury. They said they suspected they were money laundering.
Speaker 4: They suspected they had uh.
Speaker 2: And this is from multiple banks.
Speaker 5: Yes, there's multiple banks.
Speaker 4: Banks you've heard of, JP Morgan, Wells Fargo, US Bank.
Speaker 5: These are bank of big banks.
Speaker 3: Because of serious banks with real lawyers that like Noah.
Speaker 4: And they knew who they were. They said, this is
Speaker 4: a politically exposed person. They suspected some of these wires
Speaker 4: were coming from state owned entities. They said that from some.
Speaker 3: Of these So you're going to what that means communist
Speaker 3: government is sending the money.
Speaker 5: Yes, according to.
Speaker 1: And the and the whistleblower in that scenario is the
Speaker 1: bank who's saying the whistle blow.
Speaker 2: So JP Morgan is saying, we believe.
Speaker 5: Morgan Wells Fargo, Bank of America.
Speaker 2: So they write this suspicious activity report.
Speaker 3: Like all of those banks, JP Morgan, their CEO, Jamie Diamond,
Speaker 3: is a prominent Democrat. I mean, none of these banks
Speaker 3: are Republicans. None of these banks have it out for
Speaker 3: the Bible.
Speaker 5: We've lost Wall Street. They're all Democrats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's not so.
Speaker 3: These are all banks that are reliable political donors to
Speaker 3: the Democrats that are nonetheless looking at reports saying, Wow,
Speaker 3: this is really concerning.
Speaker 1: But they're writing in the report, I'm in shock by this.
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot more of this stuff in the
Speaker 1: legal world that I have. I'm generally in shock right now.
Speaker 1: The fact that you're telling me that an American bank
Speaker 1: is writing that we believe a wire transfer coming into
Speaker 1: the Biden family coming from the Chinese Communist government, not
Speaker 1: an entity, it's money, and we're saying it's money laundering
Speaker 1: on top of it coming from the Chinese Communist government.
Speaker 2: Is that in the moment when you said, holy crap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wire fraud, tax fraud, money laundering.
Speaker 2: So they're naming all the things they think, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So then Treasury reports it to IRS, they begin investigating.
Speaker 3: When did did they open the investigation A hunterbody twenty.
Speaker 5: Eighteen? I know they were investigating in twenty eighteen. It
Speaker 5: could have been earlier.
Speaker 3: So at least five years, yes, now this investigation. Look
Speaker 3: if it's been at least five years that they just
Speaker 3: announced an indictment weeks ago, that's a long time.
Speaker 2: What took them five years that.
Speaker 4: They were stonewalled the whole time they said they couldn't
Speaker 4: do it. They were ready to go at the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty election, and they were told by the Deputy US
Speaker 4: Attorney Wolf in Delaware, all the optics are bad. We
Speaker 4: can't do this before an election. And they told him
Speaker 4: to stand down and then once show.
Speaker 3: It's doj that was stonewalling. Then yes, all right, let's
Speaker 3: talk about So a number of the potential offenses that
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden committed, the statute limitations has run off. Yes,
Speaker 3: the most serious tax crimes he's committed, statute limitations has
Speaker 3: run on.
Speaker 2: Why what happened?
Speaker 4: Because they were told to wait, they couldn't do it
Speaker 4: because of the election. Then once he became president, they're like, well,
Speaker 4: we don't.
Speaker 5: Need to do this.
Speaker 4: You have to understand this. This is what they said today.
Speaker 4: They knew that Hunter Biden committed a bunch of crimes.
Speaker 4: They felt like all roads were leading to Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: And that's what was making the Department of Justice nervous
Speaker 4: because they.
Speaker 5: Weren't It is they they didn't feel they were that.
Speaker 4: Concerned about Hunter Biden. It's just they were worried, Okay,
Speaker 4: what's he doing to get this money? There's no legitimate
Speaker 4: business here. It has to be something his father's done.
Speaker 4: And good God, he's the Prision of the United States.
Speaker 1: Now we don't can you explain statute of limitations? A
Speaker 1: lot of people it sounds so illegal, but I think
Speaker 1: it's important we explain this. When you have a five
Speaker 1: year window, as it's described, right, you've got five years
Speaker 1: on some of these crimes that you should you have
Speaker 1: five years to basically charge them in that crime. Once
Speaker 1: you're outside that five years, you cannot charge them for
Speaker 1: that crime, even if you know they committed the crime.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 3: And look, a statute limitations is really important. You know,
Speaker 3: if you were in high school and you knocked off
Speaker 3: a liquor store, I'm not saying you did. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying you didn't. Yeah, but if you did in high school,
Speaker 3: I did not notice how quickly.
Speaker 2: H Yeah.
Speaker 3: But even if you did, there's a statute of limitation.
Speaker 3: The idea is you shouldn't have to face the possibility
Speaker 3: for criminal prosecution five, ten, twenty years after something happened,
Speaker 3: because if someone charged you with something you did twenty
Speaker 3: years ago. By the way, it's more than twenty years
Speaker 3: ago you were in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know, I'm getting all. I know, I'm
Speaker 2: getting all.
Speaker 3: But look, if someone charged you, How would you defend yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you do.
Speaker 3: You don't have any evidence for twenty years. Part of
Speaker 3: the reason of a statue limitations is that it's impossible
Speaker 3: to defend yourself from something.
Speaker 2: So long ago.
Speaker 3: There are no witnesses, there no records. So the idea is,
Speaker 3: if you commit a crime, there's a period of time
Speaker 3: for which you're liable.
Speaker 2: But it also means.
Speaker 3: If you get past the statute limitations, you can't prosecute and.
Speaker 2: So and prosecutors know the statue of limitations. It is
Speaker 2: critical and you focus.
Speaker 4: These guys knew it, and they knew it was getting close,
Speaker 4: and they were still told to stand down, all right.
Speaker 3: So the most important thing that I heard James say
Speaker 3: is that the investigation all understood that the real focus
Speaker 3: of the criminality was Joe Biden. Yeah, and that they
Speaker 3: wanted to investigate Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Hunter really wasn't important, And.
Speaker 3: That the Department of Justice blocked them, interfered, obstructed with
Speaker 3: their going after Joe Biden. That's a big damn deal.
Speaker 3: And you know what, if you want to hear more
Speaker 3: about that, this is a two part series. You got
Speaker 3: to listen tomorrow. Tomorrow we're gonna do the second half,
Speaker 3: which is Joe Biden's direct criminal liability and how the
Speaker 3: Department of Justice obstructed justice, covered it up, block the investigation.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do that interview.
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Speaker 3: Ask yourself, have you heard this on TV? Have you
Speaker 3: read about this in the paper? Has anyone explained what
Speaker 3: a suspicious activity report is? Has anyone explained how strange
Speaker 3: it is that they're one hundred and seventy of them.
Speaker 3: This podcast exists to give you the facts that you
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