1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: We're rolling through the second hour of the program. Appreciate 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. Continue to go 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: all over the place with the show, try to connect 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: with as many of you and as many different parts 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: of the country as possible. I am down on the 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: Florida Gulf Coast in Panama City Beach. Buck is in 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: New York City. Tons of Clay and Buck listeners down 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: here along the Gulf Coast region of Florida, Southern Alabama, 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: lots of the Red State Brethren, my big SEC football fans. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: This is our home base. In many ways. We are 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: having an awesome time hanging out with you. Great weather 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: starting to kind of finally turn into spring, maybe feeling 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: like summer for many of you out there. And as 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: the summer is starting to get closer and closer, Buck, 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats are turning up the heat. And what they're recognizing, 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: I think is abortion isn't going to be the Hail 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: Mary that they thought it was. It's not going to 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: save them from electoral oblivion this November. And that's because 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: their abortion position is so extreme, and some of you 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: out there are saying, hey, I'm not sure whether I'm 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: seeing this yet. I'm telling you what you're going to 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: see is the argument that is already occurring, which is, 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: it's not about Roe v. Wade, it's that your contraception 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: is in danger, which is a lie. It's that that 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: gay people in classrooms is in danger what Joe Biden 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: tried to argue, which is a lie. They are building 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: extremism in because they're recognizing that most people think, hey, 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 1: abortion shouldn't be legal in the seventh, eighth or ninth month, 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: and they're trying to make Republicans seem like extremists. And 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: I got to give credit here. There's also an underlying 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: element that I think it's pretty substantial of abortion. Let's 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: be honest, that's actually racist. And the eugenics movement that 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: was much of the basis for abortion planned parenthood back 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: in the day kind of jumped right into public view 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: here during testimony in the Senate with Senator Tim Scott 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: of South Carolina, who confronted Treasury Secretary Janet Yelling on 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: the issue of abortion. And if you haven't heard this 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: audio yet, just listen. This is quite the CounterPunch from 41 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina. In many cases, abortions 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: are of teenage women, particularly low income and often black, 43 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: who aren't in a position to be able to care 44 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: for children, have unexpected pregnancies, and it deprives them of 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the ability, often to continue their education to later participate 46 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: in the workforce. So there is a spillover into labor 47 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: force participation, and it means the children will grow up 48 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: in poverty and do do worse themselves. Thank you, let 49 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: me let me just this is the truth. I'll just 50 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: simply say that, as a guy raised by a black 51 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: woman in abject poverty, I'm thankful to be here. Good 52 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: moment for Senator Scott. They are really made the point powerfully, 53 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: I think for everybody to hear, which is that there's 54 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: something really obtuse and evil in many of the arguments 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: that are being made right and super racist. Janet Yell 56 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, this is one of the lines that 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: I think George W. Bush got so right buck the 58 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: soft bigotry of low expectations. It was oozing out of 59 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: her commentary there. I mean, people should know that, and 60 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: they don't. By the way. This is not denied, This 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: is not contended or contentious. The founder of Planned Parenthood 62 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:02,279 Speaker 1: was a Margaret Sanger YEP, a absolutely genesist, believed in eugenics, 63 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: believed in limiting what she deemed quote undesirables, and spoke 64 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: to the women's auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan in 65 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey to generate support for her movement. She supported 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: the Supreme Courts nineteen twenty seven decision Buck v. Bell, 67 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: which allowed for the sterilization of people who were deemed 68 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: unfit without their consent. She was a horrible human being, okay, 69 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: and this is the founder of Planned Parenthood. She was 70 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a vile racist. And even there's even if you if 71 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: you look at even on Planned Parenthood's side, and you'll 72 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: see the stuff clay they've had to say, Yeah, okay, 73 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: she was an awful eugenicist, but she did so much 74 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: to liberate women. Does anyone else, you know, just just 75 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: put this into context for a second. Does anyone else 76 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: in conversation in public discourse these these days get that 77 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of Oh, but they actually did something we really like, 78 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: so we'll forget that other stuff. Absolutely, you know, we're 79 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: supposed to remove busts of Thomas Jefferson. But Margaret Sang 80 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: and they did city. They did it in New York City. 81 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking of. And Margaret Sanger was a 82 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: vile human being who believed in destroying undesirable babies. This 83 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: is reality, folks, and they still celebrate her and her movement. 84 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty outrageous and appalling when you actually 85 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: look into the history. Speaking of which, by the way, 86 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I went to George Washington University in Washington, DC. Buck, 87 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: did you see that they're trying to strip George Washington's 88 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: name from George Washington University. There was an editorial in 89 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the Washington Post about it, which is amazing because is 90 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: the Washington Post therefore calling for the removal of the 91 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: word Washington in their newspaper name. And remember Buck, when 92 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: everybody said Donald Trump was crazy when he said they're 93 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: not going to stop with Confederate statues. If you're gonna 94 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: try to tear down the statues of Robert E. Lee 95 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: or Stonewall Jackson or James Longstreet or any of these 96 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Confederate generals, then eventually they're gonna come for Thomas Jefferson 97 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: and George Washington, and all the left wing libs were like, oh, 98 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is so out to lunch there. This is 99 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: such a slippery slope argument. There's no way that's going 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to happen. It's happened. And speaking of slippery slope arguments, 101 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is what they're gonna do. Roe v. 102 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Wade not going to argue about abortion. We're going to 103 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: argue about all your other rights that are under siege. 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: And this is what Mayor Pete is already trying to do. 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: You'll listen to cut ten here that we've got. What 106 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: else is the Supreme Court coming forward? Listen to me 107 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: right now. Suburban moms, suburban women. I was talking to 108 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of moms. There are all different sorts of 109 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: text chains and viral threads about how contraceptions under danger 110 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: and how now you're not going to be able to 111 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: even go out and make birth control decisions on your own. 112 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Those are wise. The Democrats are trying to get you 113 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: riled up. You need to be talking to your mom 114 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: friends and telling them this isn't true. Here's Mayor Pete 115 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: trying to fan the flames. Listen right now, The focus 116 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: rightly is on women and the right to choose. And 117 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, for all of my life 118 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: and all of modern American history, I think the direction 119 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: that we've been going in as a country, the direction 120 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: that the Constitution has led us to in the Supreme Court, 121 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: has been one of expanding rights, has been one of 122 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: expanding freedoms. And suddenly this decision, if this is what 123 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: the decision will be, represents a retreat from them. And 124 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: if this memo turns into a decision, appears to have 125 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: very little regard for precedent. And I'm not comforted by 126 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: any of the reins assurances that that would not lead 127 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: to other freedoms falling. I mean, this is what you're 128 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: going to hear because their arguments are not persuasive. So 129 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: what are they doing. They're saying things. This is what 130 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat playbook right now is unfolding for all of 131 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: us to see. You can just watch this day by 132 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: day as it goes. They say things that are not 133 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: true about the decision. They try to frighten people about 134 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: the implications of this. They do this constantly. By the 135 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: way they said about citizens United, it would be unprecedented 136 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: foreign cash coming into our elections. None of that was true. 137 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: What they actually wanted, not to get too deep into 138 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Citizens United, the federal government under the Obama administration held 139 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: that they had a right to ban books in advance 140 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: of an election from publication, not allowed to publish a 141 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: book within sixty days or ninety days, and that was 142 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: a federal right in Citizens United, which is crazy. That's 143 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: what the Obamas Ama Solicitor General try to advance in 144 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: that argument, and the Left just lied about it. Oh 145 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: it's foreign money on this, they're lying about it. Of course, 146 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: again on a whole range of issues. Their arguments are 147 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: super weak. The argument on precedent, this is just this 148 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: is like arguing with a toddler, like they just keep 149 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: coming back to this precedent. Isn't what they seem to 150 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, that word does not mean what they seem 151 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: to think it means. It doesn't mean that you can 152 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: never overturn something. It doesn't mean that there's that starry 153 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: decisis is set in stone. And now with this clay, it's, 154 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: oh man, we're not getting people fired up enough over 155 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: telling them that they're gonna lose their right to abortion. 156 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna say you're gonna lose all of these other 157 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: rights to contraception. I mean I remember, didn't didn't someone 158 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: ask Mitt Romney about whether he wanted to ban I 159 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: can think there was am I misremembering this? Didn't Mit 160 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: Romney get asked, do you want would you ban contraception? 161 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what there is. There is an 162 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: argument that they are trying to make buck and this 163 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: to me goes to the point that Roe v. Wade 164 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: being overturned is not the electoral strategy that's going to 165 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: guarantee them success that many are trying to argue, because 166 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: what they're trying to build on is they are saying, well, 167 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: if roe v. Wade gets overturned, then Griswold could get 168 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Overturning Griswold effectively is the precedent that allowed married couples 169 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: to make birth controlled decisions. And so I think this 170 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: is important and I think this is a big conversation 171 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: that moms need to be having with other moms, the 172 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: same way that I've talked about these COVID restrictions and 173 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: the incredibly deleterious impact that it has had on children 174 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: and who made that happen. These are conversations that moms 175 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: need to happen, need to have and I think Republicans 176 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: need to be straightforward, transparent and clear about this. We're 177 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: not coming for your birth control, right There's there's no 178 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: anti there's no big national decades long anti birth control 179 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: and you know for in the home, but that doesn't 180 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: even exist. Well, what are we gonna do. We're gonna 181 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: like a black market for condoms. I mean, give me 182 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: a break, this is absurd. No one actually when they're 183 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: trying to sell it, and there are people who want 184 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: to sell it, and there are people who are willing 185 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: to buy it. 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We are joined now by David Marcus, 222 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: who has done many things in his life, including being 223 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: a theater actor. He's also Brooklyn based columnist and author 224 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: of Charade, The Covid Lies That Crushed a Nation. Uh, 225 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: and David, we appreciate you making the time to join 226 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: the show here. But I wanted to play this audio 227 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: for you to see what you thought of this on Broadway. Uh, 228 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: there was fury over a mask not being worn correctly. 229 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: And I just want to let you react as a 230 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: theater guy to what your reaction would be to this. 231 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Let's play it. Put your masks over your noses? Do 232 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: you want? Because I will your protect perform? Oh? You know, 233 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: why are the rule if you don't want to follow? 234 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: By the way, this is my wife's biggest fear. I think, 235 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: probably Buck, if she took me to a Broadway play 236 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be wearing my mask correctly. And I 237 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: just started getting screamed at by an actress on the stage. David. 238 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: When you hear that, your reaction is what, Yeah, it's amazing. 239 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: It is the perfect symbol of why theater is basically 240 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: dead in the United States of America, because theaters don't 241 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: want to put people on stage who are going to 242 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: do an entertaining show for you anymore. They want to 243 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: put people on stage to lecture you about how you 244 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: should live. Right, don't forget the cast of Hamilton lecturing 245 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: Vice President Pence. Right, Yeah, that's what this industry has become. 246 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: I spent fifteen years in the New York theaters scene, 247 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and listen, man, Hollywood's progressive, but I mean Hollywood's the 248 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: National Review compared to the New York theater scene, and 249 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: they've destroyed an industry. And that that was just that 250 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: was just a perfect, whiny, screaming example of exactly how 251 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: they've done it. I mean, by the way, David, great 252 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: to have you on the show man. I live right 253 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: next to I walk past a Broadway feed every time 254 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I go to and from my apartment, and there's a 255 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: line of people outside. There's these mask minders that have 256 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: their masks on outside mind you who who walk up 257 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: and down the line. They also do this for the 258 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Colbert Colbert Show whatever, same thing. The mask minders make 259 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: sure you are masked up in line outside before you 260 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: go in, and then the ushers. From what I understand, 261 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: I talked your friend who went to a Broadway show 262 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: recently that you know, if you if you're like probably 263 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: talking or being annoying things that actually bother normal people. 264 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: Now that's not the big deal. If your mask drops down, 265 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: you get one warning and then they come over and 266 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: basically say, you know, do you want to be expelled 267 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: from the theater? I mean, why would anyone put themselves through? 268 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: This is what I wanted to like, how can anyone 269 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: david the people that are going to these theaters in 270 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: New York and there's some other places across the country 271 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: where I think this still exists, but nowhere like Broadway. 272 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: They're going to crowded restaurants and bars before and after 273 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: they sit in the Broadway theater without masks on. No look, 274 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: none of it, None of it makes any sense, of course. 275 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: But again I think it's down to an American arts 276 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: community that are just rule followers that that that don't 277 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: even make art anymore. They just kind of like pat 278 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: people on the heads for having the right views about 279 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, race and gender and masks. I mean, when 280 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I started doing theater in the nineteen nineties in New York, Uh, 281 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, the last thing we were ever doing was 282 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: thinking about wearing a mask or not getting sick. Were artists, Yeah, 283 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: we were dangerous. You know, these people are about as 284 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: dangerous as Elmer's Blue. David, we were just talking about 285 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: off air because Buck obviously is in New York City, Alie, 286 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: our producer, a lot of our staff are there, and 287 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: we're doing a one year anniversary event in New York 288 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: City soon. And are you concerned, as someone who lives 289 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, that with COVID cases ticking back up, with 290 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: the Biden White House talking about the mid term variant 291 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: that might suddenly cause one hundred million more cases, you 292 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: still got two year olds that have to wear masks 293 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: in New York. To Buck's point, you got actors and 294 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: actresses lecturing people from the stage and Broadway productions for 295 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: not wearing their masks correctly. Are you concerned as the 296 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: summer comes to a close in the next several months 297 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: and we moved towards the fall, that insanity is going 298 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: to return its full grip of fascist power to New 299 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: York City, the place that you live. Oh yeah, of 300 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: course I'm concerned. You know, it's not just the place 301 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: I live, place that I love, and you know, it's 302 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: happened too many times. I mean there were there were 303 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: too many times when you know, I'd see Buck and 304 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: I'd say Buck, I think where I think we turned 305 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: the corner here right at Nope. So yeah, I am 306 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: very concerned. I will say though, that on the basic 307 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: institutional level, the freak out, for the most part is 308 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: calming down. Like you know, my eleven year old had 309 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: COVID recently and a year ago in terms of school, 310 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: that would have been you know, the end of the 311 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: World and everything show, and it's just not anymore. So 312 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: I do think that the people who run the institutions 313 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: and most of the New Yorkers don't want to go 314 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: back to that. But look, if our governor says you're 315 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: going back, we're going back. Man. We learned that lesson right. 316 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: It's crazy. David Marcus is a columnist for The New 317 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: York Post, author of Charade, The COVID Lies That Crushed 318 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: the Nation. David, I don't know if you if you 319 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: saw it or heard it, but Vouch got an honorary 320 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: doctorate at the University of Michigan. I guess it was 321 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: over this past weekend, and there was uporious applause for 322 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: this guy, like standing ovation and and I just there's 323 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: a part of me that I'm never gonna let this 324 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: go until the truth about Fauci becomes the overwhelming lore 325 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: of the land, if you will, like I just, I 326 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: just refuse to let this guy. Not just as a 327 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: New York A lot of people listening in cities across 328 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: the country had to deal with the lunacy as well, 329 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: but in New York it feels particularly personal the Fauci crep. Yeah, 330 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean it absolutely does. I mean it doesn't help 331 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: that the guys from South Brooklyn, but um, yeah, listen, listen. 332 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: There is a certain percentage of the American people who 333 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: went to such bizarre, crazy, extreme not leaving their apartment, 334 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, washing their groceries, not touching their face, all 335 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: of these things, right, who balked the letely into it, 336 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: who are never going to be psychologically capable of admitting 337 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: that that was a mistake, of saying I refuse to 338 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: hug my grandmother for two years. Oops, Right, there's a 339 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of people who are just never That's a that's 340 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: a big thing to have to face, and I think 341 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people are just not going to do it. 342 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: We already have the studies, guys, right, we have to 343 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: John Hopkins study, We have other studies. We know that 344 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: Florida didn't have vastly more depths than New York and 345 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: did way way better economically. The results of this whole 346 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: thing are in. There's just a bunch of Americans who 347 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: are never going to accept it. Speaking of that, David, 348 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people saw the Bill Gates 349 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: news where Bill Gates basically, along with everybody else who's 350 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: gotten four COVID shots, feels obligated to say when he 351 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: tests positive, I'm so thankful for my COVID shots, because 352 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: otherwise this would be so much worse. I think most 353 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: reasonable people out there, and I split this tweet out yesterday, Buck, 354 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: if you got a shot for something four times and 355 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: you still got it, you would think, what in the 356 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: world's going on? How awful is this COVID shot? Will people, 357 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: David ever acknowledge that much of what they have done, 358 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: whether it's masks, whether it's getting a billion COVID shots 359 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: that they really haven't done anything to alter the risk 360 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: analysis two year olds wearing masks. The requirements in New 361 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: York have done nothing. You just mentioned the divergence between 362 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: Florida and New York and all of New York has 363 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: done in many blue state cities and regions have destroyed 364 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: their economy with no comparative health benefit. Yeah. Absolutely. And 365 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: another thing that Gates said this might have been the 366 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: same interview, but I believe it was in the last week, 367 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: was you know, he said, well, you know, we couldn't 368 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: possibly have known at the beginning that the infection fatality 369 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: rate was much lower than we thought. You know who 370 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: knew that, and I believe March seventh, twenty twenty was 371 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump who did an interview with Sean Hannity where 372 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: he said he had a hunch that that fatality rate 373 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: was much much lower. Why because we weren't testing asymptomatic 374 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: people who don't show any illness. Donald Trump was absolutely right. 375 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: That was early March twenty twenty. So this idea that 376 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: Bill Gates, with everything he has at his disposal, didn't 377 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: know this. You know, it really just shows you what 378 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: was what was going on here. Check out charade the 379 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: covid lies that crushed a nation. David Marcus David, great 380 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: to have you all, my friend. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, guys. 381 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Be well. 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Vivec great to have 417 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: you on how you do it? I'm good man. Look 418 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: before we talk about the solution to a form of 419 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: corporate wokeness, a very powerful, very broad scale one. Can 420 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: you can you put into just layment terms for all 421 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: of us. The problem here when it comes to wokeness, 422 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: woke capital, and how it affects places, massive asset managers, 423 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: financial institutions like black Rocks, State Street, what's going on? Yeah, 424 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: So look, I think that there's a fiduciary duty problem here. 425 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: Where what's happening with these large asset managers Black Rock, 426 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: State Street, Vandguard you set them. They manage over twenty 427 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: trillion dollars, that is more than the GDP of the 428 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: United States. But here's the problem. That money belongs to 429 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: everyday citizens. Who's capital they're using to advocate for policies 430 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: in corporate America that most of those everyday citizens would 431 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: disapprove of. And I think that that is the greatest 432 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: fiduciary betrayal of our time that no one has paid 433 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: attention to, no one has woken up to, and certainly 434 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: no one has stepped up to solve. That's the problem 435 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: we're stepping up to solve. And it runs pretty deep. 436 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how deep it runs, just I 437 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: think it's gotten so bad that it borders on an 438 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: antitrust problem. Yeah, the Arizona Attorney General has actually launched 439 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: an anti trust investigation. He called it boldly, in my 440 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: opinion and possibly correctly, the greatest anti trust violation, the 441 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: biggest addrust violation in history. Where YA was running you 442 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: through a thought experiment here, Imagine the CEOs of say 443 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Exxon and Shell and Chevron got together in a room 444 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: and decided that they were going to cut gas production 445 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: and gas prices at the pump spike as a result. 446 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: That'd be the stuff of movies. Right, people are walking 447 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: out with handcuffs. That's not what's happening here, but it's 448 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: pretty close where the top asset managers in the world 449 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: who own those same firms are basically mandating that they 450 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: do the same thing, and somehow we celebrate that. As EESG. 451 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem. And so what we're doing 452 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: is we're bringing a different voice to the table saying 453 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: that you know what, if you're a company, you should 454 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: focus exclusively on delivering excellent products and services to your customers, 455 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: not on political agendas and not on social agendas. And 456 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: I hope that's going to be good for restoring the 457 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: heart of our economy. Yeah, thanks for coming on the show. 458 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: The book was fantastic, Vivec, and I actually have been, 459 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest with you, until you started 460 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: raising the red flag here and pointing out some of 461 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: these issues. I went and did my own research. And 462 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: the guy who's probably the most powerful that in America 463 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: that most people don't know in terms of having influence 464 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: here on corporate woke politics is Larry Fink. He is 465 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: the CEO of Blackrock, and I think people are still 466 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: learning what all of this means. Can you explain where 467 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Larry Think, a guy who is the CEO of Blackrock, 468 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: derives his power from and what he's able to do, 469 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: basically to bend many of these companies towards his own 470 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: political will when many people out there are not even 471 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: aware of the power that he wields. Yeah, and look, 472 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: I'll quote Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett who said Larry 473 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: Think is not my emperor. More recently, I think CEO 474 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: is an inappropriate title. Emperor might be more appropriate to 475 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: what happened is let's take a walk through history lane 476 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: here of the last decade and a half. After the 477 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight financial crisis, right there was a 478 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: new demand of American capital saying that greed is no 479 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: longer good. You know, we need to find a new model. 480 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: Larry Think is the guy who stepped into that void 481 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: and turned that into an opportunity, who said that, you 482 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: know what, we just have to play a different game 483 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: here that we call this stakeholder capitalism. The old left 484 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: used to be occupy Wall Street, left knocking on our doorsteps. 485 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Let's put them to one side by now start talking 486 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: about social responsibility and preach about the racially disparate impact 487 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: of climate change. After you find a private jet the Davos. 488 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: This is pretty good work. You blow a smoke screen 489 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: that distracts people from the essence of what they were 490 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: mad about, and use corporate power to actually advance the 491 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: very progressive agendas that used to come after a corporate 492 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: power in the first place. And it turned out he 493 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: used that as a marketing tool to create the world's 494 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: largest asset manager today managing over ten trillion dollars. And 495 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: what they do is they show up as the shareholder 496 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: and say that you know what, Milton Friedman might have said, 497 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: that you, the CEO, owe a duty to the shareholders 498 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't be pushing social agendas. Will guess what, 499 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: I am the shareholder, and I am telling you that 500 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: you must push these social agendas or else I'm going 501 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: to dock your pay or else I'm going to fire 502 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: you a CEO, or else I'm going to replace your 503 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: board directors. And so most CEOs bend a knee into it. 504 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: You're a rulytractical example. Disney. People think that this guy 505 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: is just bending the need to progressive employees. Well not 506 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: so fast. It's actually a deeper problem. You look at 507 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: the top shareholders of Disney, it's none other than those 508 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: big three black Rock, State Street, and Vanguards. So this 509 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: runs pretty deep. And you think we live in a 510 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: system of free market capitalism with competition, will get through 511 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: the top shareholders of Microsoft and Apple ar competitors, right, 512 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: or Coke and Pepsi or let's just say any Shell 513 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: and Exxon or Chevron. These are supposed to be competitors 514 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: and economy. It turned out they all have the same 515 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: top shareholders. That's the problem here. And so what I'm 516 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: aiming to expose and the problem knowledge to expose. But 517 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: the solve is that actually, even though folks like Larry 518 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Fink or Black Rock claimed to be the shareholders of 519 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: those compani and dictate what those companies do. Actually, they're 520 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: not the real shareholder. The real shareholders are the firefighters, 521 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: the nurses, the doctors, the small business owners of this 522 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: country who unknowingly see their money directed through their four 523 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: one ky accounts, their pensions fund accounts, etc. To the 524 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: hands of these firms that are voting their shares and 525 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: advocating for policies in the boardroom that would make their 526 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: blood boil if they actually knew what was going on. 527 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: But they don't. And that's why I think transparency is 528 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: going to be the key here. And that's why I 529 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: think we have a big mountain to climb. And believe me, 530 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: it's a big mountain because they have Blackrock aunt of 531 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: the firms have mastered the lobbying game, have mastered the 532 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: game of government capture. Look at the number of black 533 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Rock alumni that staff the Administration and the White House 534 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: and the Treasury Department, in the Council of Economic Advisors. 535 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: It is chrony capitalism today. So it is a big 536 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: hill to climb. But the thing we have on our 537 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: side is that at the end of the day, the 538 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: voices of the American people and the desires of the 539 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: American people, not just as citizens but as shareholders, are 540 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: demanding once they're aware of a new direction, that's what 541 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: we're providing. We're speaking of Vivek Ramaswami. Woke Inc. Is 542 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: his book, and he's the founder of Strive Capital. And 543 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: to that end, more on the solution, Vivek, which you're 544 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: trying to build. You've already raised twenty million dollars I 545 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: believe for this venture. What's it going to do and 546 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: how does it affect the folks out there? I mean, 547 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, if you've got a four oh one k, 548 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: it's probably with one of these financial giants. You want 549 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: to build an alternative to those woke financial gargantuan companies. Yeah, 550 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: so look that's just the seed capital. You know, the 551 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal broke the story, so we ended up 552 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: announcing it a little bit earlier than expected. But at 553 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, we should probably talk again 554 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: in the third quarter of this year because the thing 555 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: we're definitely going to launch our first product, and these 556 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: are going to be you know, products that live out 557 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: our mission that allow everyday shareholders to have a choice, 558 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: that give them an opportunity to be able to help 559 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: us realize our mission of bring a different voice to 560 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: the table in America. So I'm limited in what I 561 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: can say about it right now, but let's come back 562 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: in in the third quarter when we said we're going 563 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: to launch our first product. And I hope that this 564 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: is the beginning of a long journey that actually represents 565 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: the voice that most Americans want to bring to corporate America, 566 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: which they don't want capitalism to be political. They don't 567 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: want the places where they shop, or where they work, 568 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: or where they invest to be political. And you know 569 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: what I think. You know, it's really important to me 570 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: too that this is not just a left wing or 571 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: a right wing movement. This is about reviving the heart 572 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: and soul of American capitalism itself. Is that by depoliticizing 573 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: the private sector, I think the thing that we're going 574 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: to be able to do is hopefully recreate solidarity between 575 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: different people, irrespective of whether they're on left or right, 576 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: or black or white. We come together in an a 577 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: political private sector that's supposed to bring us together. We 578 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: lost that with the rise of stakeholder capitalism and black 579 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: rock led capitalism over the last decade. We want to 580 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: restore a new type of capitalism, the classical kind of 581 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: capitalism at the heart of American capitalism in the next 582 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: decade ahead. So I'll be happy to say more about 583 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: that in a few months. I think your battle is 584 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: an important one. Also, do you believe that there was 585 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: a significant message scent based on what you wrote about 586 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: and woke Ink when Ron de Santis fired back against 587 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Disney and basically let it be known that the right 588 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: was not just going to continue to cowtow to a 589 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: tiny percentage on the left that is woke that had 590 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: been driving the trajectory of our country. Yeah. I think 591 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: it's a powerful message it. Disney is just a great 592 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: example to look at where there's a good survey data 593 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: on this. We're over sixty percent of their own customers 594 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: were put off by their decision. Okay, So if we 595 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: were a shareholder of Disney, the thing we would tell 596 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: Disney is knock it off. Three words to bop chaffick. 597 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Not at all. You're alienating your customers. Customer volume is down, 598 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: your stock is down more than the SMP five hundred 599 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: over the same period, and you have had clear losses 600 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: of business benefits in the state of Florida. That's not 601 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: what you should be doing if you're focusing on excellence 602 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: for your customers. And yet the top three shareholders of 603 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: Disney today don't give them that message. Instead, if anything, 604 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: if you read between the lines of their comments and 605 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: other context, it actually seems to encourage them to exactly 606 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: take the kinds of harmful positions that they have. So yeah, 607 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I do think there's a room for political responsiveness and 608 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: even legal responsiveness here, but actually the solutions that I 609 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: prefer the most are competition through the market itself. All 610 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: state actions have unintended consequences, even ones that are necessary 611 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: to be taken. That's why I generally prefer, whenever possible, 612 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: let's sort these things out through the marketplace of ideas 613 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: and through the market itself and actually leave it to 614 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: consumers to make the decisions. And I think that's going 615 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: to be the way that we hope to reform the 616 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: management industry, and not just the asset management industry. That 617 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: is the one industry that's upstream of every industry in 618 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: the American economy, which is what my real motivation is. 619 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: I think the battle that you're fighting is an incredibly 620 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: important one. Encourage you to check out WOKE in it's 621 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: a fantastic book. He is Vivec Ramaswamy, and he is 622 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: fighting the battles that many of us need to be 623 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: fighting in both the marketplace of ideas and also the 624 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: capitalistic marketplace in general. Look forward to talking to you again, Vivec. 625 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, guys talk you. 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And Buck, we've been 651 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: talking about it off the air. There was a story 652 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: that both of us could not stop checking out the 653 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: details on it. Maybe everybody's thought about it before. Guy 654 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: was up in a Cesna plane passenger the pilot has 655 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: an emergency and is no longer able to fly the plane, 656 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: and the passenger, who had never ever flown an airplane, 657 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: put on the headset and air traffic control walked him 658 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: through landing the plane. And I'm gonna be honest, this 659 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: is something I've worried about before. I had never been 660 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: in a situation where I was on the plane and 661 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: it was just me and the pilot until recently, just 662 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and I legitimately was sitting 663 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: in the back of the plane thinking about this. Do 664 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: you think you could land a plane if that was 665 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: the situation, if the pilot became incapacitated and it was 666 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: just you and you had to go up to the cockpit, 667 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: do you think you could pull this off? I'm a 668 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: confident fellow, Clay, so you know my CIA training would 669 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: kick in, which would involve memo writing not plane fly, 670 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah right, but yeah, I think I'd get it done. 671 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't bet all the money in the 672 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: world on me, though I'm saying I don't know. I mean, 673 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of confidence in myself. I 674 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: had never been in that situation, and the guy who 675 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: was flying the plane, I was like, man, I'm glad 676 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: he's around my own age, because if it had been 677 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: an older guy, I would have been like, Oh my god, 678 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: what happens if he has a heart attack? What happens 679 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: if something goes on here? I can't think of anything 680 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: much more terrifying than suddenly having to climb into the 681 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: pilot's seat and land in airport. Can we just think 682 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: about there's a moment here where the pilot I mean, 683 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: in a medical emergency, he passed out. Yeah, so I mean, 684 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: this is like something that you would see in a 685 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: movie where all one second the pilot maybe at a stroke, 686 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: a heart attack, whatever it may be, out. So it's 687 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: not even like the pilot is you know, incapacitated but 688 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: awake and can tell you. You know, let's say that 689 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, the he had been you know, injured in 690 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: some way or whatever. You're alone, you're in that cockpit 691 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: and you're going down and you're not gonna make it 692 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: unless I mean, and by the way, credit to air 693 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: traffic control. Can you imagine your an air traffic control guy. 694 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: You're sitting there and all of a sudden, it's like, uh, yeah, 695 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: I've never flown a plane before in my life, and 696 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: the pilot is knocked out cold and I don't want 697 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: to die, so can you please help me figure this out? 698 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: Full credit to them. This happened down. It was Bahamas 699 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: to Florida was the flight here, and they managed they 700 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: managed to pull this one off, which it's pretty pretty remarkable. 701 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta say, you know, not everybody, not 702 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: everybody be able to pull this one off. I mean, 703 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: I think also the panic that would set in for 704 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: that one moment you'd be like, this is this is rough. 705 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: Now I've probably usually gotta get you know, even those 706 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: planes are not very big, Buck, right, so even getting 707 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: up into the cockpit area with an incapacitated pilot would 708 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: be a difficult thing to even pull off. I think. 709 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: I think if you're telling me though, if it's a 710 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: Cessna and you're only there's only two people in the plane, 711 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: which I believe was the case here, that that feels 712 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: more doable. Let's just say this is like from the 713 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: movie Airplane or something. Let's say you're on a fully 714 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: stacked you know, seven forty seven or something full of 715 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: people and for some reason it's all on you. You 716 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: got your head set on, the pilots are all out 717 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: cold whatever that. I don't think I think that I 718 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: would just panic. I think I'd have a heart attack. 719 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, well, I think the bigger and I'm 720 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: not an expert. I've never actually tried to, you know, 721 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: gone up and even done anything in an airplane. But 722 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: my understanding, Buck, is that the bigger the airplane, the 723 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: easier it is to fly. Meaning this and our pilot 724 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: audience can tell me if I'm a total imbecile here. 725 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: Because so much of the big planes is computerized now, 726 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: I think it might be somewhat easier to take the controls. 727 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: And as obviously a lot that may be true, then 728 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: maybe you could hit the auto Maybe they could just say, hey, 729 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: hit the autopilot, hit this, hit that, and you're good. 730 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying if there were one hundred other people, 731 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: there are way more lives at stage. It's way more 732 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: stressful than just yourself. But I think it might be 733 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: more difficult to land the Cesna because those are less 734 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: controlled by the computer technology than it would be to 735 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: suddenly find yourself in a seven forty seven cockpit. I 736 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: think in fixed wing you would have a shot. I 737 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: think if we're talking rotary, you're probably we're probably toast. 738 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: So I think the copters are really tough. I know 739 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: fixed wing pilots were like, I can't fly. I knew 740 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: them in the military. They're like, I'm a fixed wing guy. 741 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't mess with those those propeller things. Oh I'm 742 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: not only that. I think the time of day matters 743 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: the weather, you know, because if you've ever been up 744 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: in some of those little planes when when there's a 745 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: storm coming through, that is you're bouncing around a lot, 746 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: And if you're flying at night, it's a lot different 747 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: than flying during the day too. I mean, so this 748 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: is a heck of a story, but congratulation. I think. 749 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: I think both of them ended up okay. So see, 750 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: look we end on a on a happy story. I 751 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: believe I believe that they're both. I know the guy landed, 752 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: he's okay. I believe the pilot also ended up getting 753 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: medical attention or I should just check on this one. 754 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: Uh play. We've covered a lot of ground today, my man. 755 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: And tomorrow we've got Kennedy from Fox Business of Kennedy Fame, 756 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: her own show over at Fox show be talking to 757 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: us our buddy Rob Smith, who is a commentator, author, 758 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: army veteran, and all the news today. Man, it's going 759 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: to be fantastic. Cannot wait. I look forward to continue 760 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: to have a good time down here on the Gulf Coast, 761 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: appreciade all the people who listen to the show down 762 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: here in this market, and man will continue to be 763 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: voices for sanity in an insane world, Tomorrow Fleet, Travis 764 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth,