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Speaker 1: Apparently that is a big thing of neighbors getting pissed

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Speaker 3: My mother's best friend had a cat that disappeared literally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I'm like, let me go ask around my

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Speaker 1: it's just like you don't know where they came from,

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Speaker 3: I would also, I mean, I would be beside myself

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Speaker 1: Like you saw my reaction last week, and I was

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Speaker 3: Because I'm not just a pussy, just a pussy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just like change one letter. What do you mean,

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Speaker 1: Oh right, one letter double there you go. Well look

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Speaker 1: at that. Hey, happy Friday, you guys, hie. Nothing like

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Speaker 1: a little pussy talk to get your Friday started right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's actually not what we're here to talk about.

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Speaker 2: It's actually kind.

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Speaker 2: Oh there talk?

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Speaker 1: So okay, Well, yeah, that was a very interesting transition

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Speaker 1: because I know what we're talking about. Okay, this is

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Speaker 3: Fair to judge and make fun of people, circumstances whatever

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Speaker 1: Thank you well. I said to you the moment that

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Speaker 1: This is like legit news outlets that are still straight

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Speaker 3: And because of our laws, they are able to keep

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Speaker 1: So if you somehow live under a rock and you

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Speaker 1: They were born together where they they have two separate

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Speaker 3: They have completely separate emotions. They have separate thoughts, They

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Speaker 1: What if Britney can't fucking stand Josh exactly? I thought

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Speaker 3: Also, Brittany is she is there to witness every argument

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Speaker 3: There's two ways that they believe this happens because it's

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Speaker 3: that fuse. But the majority theory is that it's an

441
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Speaker 3: egg that doesn't split.

442
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 2: The whole way.

443
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: Just looking at them, I feel like the first theory,

444
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: don't you, because it's like the top did split it

445
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: seems like because they have separate heads and brains. You

446
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: know what I thought was bullshit. They had to pay

447
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: two tuitions but they only get paid one salary.

448
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: One salary.

449
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: Isn't that bullshit because it should just be equal either way,

450
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: like if they paid wish. So when they went to college,

451
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: they went they went all the way to call it

452
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: like through college. I believe, yes, they went through college

453
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: and paid two tuitions because technically it's two brains, so

454
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: it's two people. I guess, so yeah, and so they

455
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: would take separate tests and things like that. That would

456
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: make that make sense though, because it's two brains. But

457
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: now they're school teachers and they're only paid one salary,

458
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: which makes sense for the fact that it's probably one classroom,

459
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe they're covering the stuff that one

460
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: teacher would cover. I would guess that's how it's working.

461
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: I read that it was they teach different subjects though.

462
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: Then okay, see, right, that's two people. They should be

463
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: paid double salaries, like each of them should be paid

464
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: an individual salary. I think, right, that's crazy.

465
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 3: But then it gets where it gets hairy too, is

466
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 3: like insurance, like are they both insured or are they

467
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: ensuring one.

468
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: Body, it's because it is one body, two people.

469
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: So it's no, it's so complex, it's such.

470
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: A it's such an interesting thing to navigate because I'm

471
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: sure so many systems in our world are not created

472
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: for them to fit into.

473
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: No systems like there's not that's just no, there's not.

474
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Speaker 3: Everything's in abnormality for them, which is and they are

475
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: seeing they had a reality show. They're seemingly like quite

476
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: healthy and physically normal, you know, like.

477
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: They have normal desires.

478
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there are very normal time or

479
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: I guess Abby's the one responding to a lot of

480
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: people have had questions about sex, and okay, this is

481
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: what I'm sorry, let me go back really quick. What

482
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: I did want to point out, I sent you an

483
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: article earlier. They got married or Abby got married in

484
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and this is for some reason just

485
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: hitting the news today, and it's that's that was My

486
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: point is, like everyone is so we're just literally reading

487
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: headlines so quickly that all we think is, oh, this

488
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: can join twin just got married. She got married years ago,

489
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: and for some reason social media got ahold of it,

490
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: like the last two weeks, and that just goes to

491
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: show how crazy social media can be. When something goes viral,

492
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: it goes viral, and this went viral for some reason recently,

493
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: but it's really not new news. They've been living this

494
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: way since twenty twenty one with Abby's husband. But the

495
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: big question, and I said, I mean this was my

496
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: first thought was like, how does he have sex with that,

497
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: like with both of them, Like how does this work?

498
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: And you said, well they share a bottom half, so yeah,

499
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: And to me, I'm like, is that like traumatic for Brittany,

500
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: like what or is she enjoying it? Like I have

501
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: so many questions about that.

502
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: And so I apparently feel the orgasm, which is right.

503
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Abby has come out to answer questions because

504
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: I guess they're getting a lot of people asking about this,

505
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: and she said they do share whenever they climax, they

506
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: both feel it, and that when she's having sex with

507
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 1: her husband, Brittany reads a book or puts on a

508
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: podcast or something. And I mean, this is where the

509
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: internet's tough, because there are a lot of funny like tiktoks,

510
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: you know, in these responses and people are a funny,

511
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: but it is where it gets to the point of

512
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: like all right, it's like, I mean, laugh to yourself,

513
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: I guess, but like we got to all like have

514
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: a little more sensitivity. This is these people's lives. So yeah,

515
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine, like imagine what that would be

516
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: like if you and I were connected and you were

517
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: having sex with someone and I'm just like reading a

518
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: book right there. I wouldn't want to.

519
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: Cry, Right, Have you ever been in the room when

520
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: someone is having sex?

521
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Not that I know of, Okay.

522
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: You witness I witnessed a friend having sex.

523
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Like did they think you were asleep?

524
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Speaker 2: You know what? I really am not certain how it

525
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: happened because I mean it's been a long time. It

526
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: was like right after college.

527
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: I feel like we're all kind of sitting here going, well,

528
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: we're going to need more of this story.

529
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and but I witnessed it and it

530
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: was kind of traumatic.

531
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It was our friends and our

532
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: people that we would not normally see. Yeah, but they've

533
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: never not seen that either, because like even if they

534
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: were younger and they were like if they've ever masturbated, like.

535
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, I mean, if you think about it,

536
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: one of them controls the right hand the other one

537
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: controls the left right weight. One of them can masturbate

538
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: without the permission of the other one.

539
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't think about that, you know.

540
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: Like if one because if if masturbation comes from an

541
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: emotional place, yeah, then one might be in the mood

542
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: when the other one.

543
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Does it come from an emotional place? I mean you're saying,

544
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: if isn't it like it does it's hormonally, it can be, yeah,

545
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: but something if you're corny, it's physical, right, but don't.

546
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: You Yeah, but isn't there aren't there times? And maybe

547
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: this is the difference between a man and a woman too,

548
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: Like sometimes you just think like, oh, I'm gonna go

549
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: jerk off, you know what I mean. It's like and

550
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily feel like something that's like a whole

551
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: body thing.

552
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: It's just like I'm bored. I'm gonna jerk off.

553
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's humans, right.

554
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: So there's in theory, Brittany could be bored and.

555
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Be like like be sleeping and she wakes up and

556
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: she's like, bitch, are you at it again? Like it's

557
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: just like there's it's so many scenarios, so many scenarios,

558
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: such a deep level of intimacy that I don't think

559
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: any of us could even process, Like I really don't.

560
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: It really is fascinating, And the two of them seem

561
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 3: happy with each other, which like for ends, I love

562
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: my sister, I would not want.

563
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I mean, I just think about how different

564
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: my brother and I are, and I'm like, he would

565
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: literally want to murder me, and vice vera, like we would.

566
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Just like the way we live our lives even is

567
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: so different, just like preferences like even what time we

568
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: wake up in the day or like go to bed

569
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: at night, you know what I mean, Like you really

570
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: have to work together, and no, twins do have stronger

571
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: bonds a lot of times, and so if it's a

572
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, a good positive bond, then maybe they just

573
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: feel even more connected and want to be together a lot.

574
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Have a couple of friends actually oddly that are twins,

575
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: and they're so close with their twin Like it's just

576
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: it's they say. They'd say it physically feels like a

577
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: part of you so or emotionally feels like a part

578
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: of you. But these girls are feeling the physical, emotional,

579
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: the all of it. But they did they were born

580
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: in the same womb you know, they just came out.

581
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: They happen to come out different than other twins because

582
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: they're also in the same body. Yeah.

583
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh, the layers, the layer, the biggest onion.

584
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Like I know, and I've said complex eight hundred times,

585
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: but it really is so complex because, just like you said,

586
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: the second you start diving down the rabbit hole of thoughts,

587
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: another question comes up and you're just thinking, I don't know.

588
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: I think what's gripped the world with this is is

589
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: that it's not something most of us had ever thought of.

590
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: I just hadn't I really literally but met either.

591
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: And then the more I dug like it's weird, there's

592
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: like Reddit chats about like people talking about it. So

593
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: it's not something that hasn't been thought of before. I

594
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: personally had never thought of it.

595
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: So, but isn't that the point we're trying to make here,

596
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: that kind of what we are noticing in society and

597
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to personally really pay attention to in

598
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: my own life. It's like we just get going in

599
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: all of these different directions. We get busy, we have

600
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: our lives, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

601
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: I think that's just a normal human thing, and it's

602
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: often that we just cannot put ourselves in other people's shoes,

603
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: and so when something new is brought to the table,

604
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: it seems like a better reaction would be curiosity. Like

605
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: sort of what we're trying to say here is like

606
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions like, yeah, oh my god,

607
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: I'd never thought about living a life like that. What

608
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: is that life? And that's why both of us enjoyed

609
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: doing this podcast is topics like that, getting to talk

610
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: to guests and learn about different lifestyles. But yeah, but

611
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: like instead of going, oh my god, ha ha ha,

612
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: look at this shit, what about if you took a

613
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: second and you were like kind and thought, huh, first

614
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: of all, gratitude that like my life on a day

615
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: to day, I just get to hop out of bed,

616
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: like I don't have those things to factor in that,

617
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: just as it's a lot of layers, like we've said,

618
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: so there's a sense of ease that I have that

619
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: they don't have. Right, and then also like societal pressures.

620
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean I can't imagine what going to school was

621
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: like for them as kids and stuff, you know, like

622
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: just all of the different things of that. But maybe

623
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: if we could all try to come from a place

624
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: of like stay curious versus let's troll people. That would

625
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: change some things, you know.

626
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm just so fascinated by them and the

627
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: perseverance that takes to get to this age.

628
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean that just made me have another.

629
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: Thought, like what what if one of them was suffering

630
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: from depression and wanted to kill herself.

631
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Right, you know, well then the other one would have

632
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: to pep talker out of it, right. I did read

633
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: about the death piece of that though, because I was

634
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: also thinking do they die at the same time? What

635
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: if they didn't and they don't, So, I mean that

636
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: actually makes me want to cry because that I mean, right,

637
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: well they say that like it doesn't have to happen

638
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: that way, Like one of one person could die and

639
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: then you would either have to have a surgical situation,

640
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: like a surgical procedure to have that person removed. So

641
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just the trauma in that losing your best

642
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: friend's sister, person who you've spent every minute with, and

643
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: then like having to survive. And then also the reason

644
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: they didn't have the surgery to start was because the

645
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: doctors told their parents it was super risky with However,

646
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: they were built to try to separate them. There was

647
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: a high likelihood they wouldn't survive, and so the parents

648
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: were like, well, we don't want to lose them, and

649
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: so they decided to keep them together. But yeah, the

650
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: death piece of it, and it's so hard, you know.

651
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if they think they could get in the

652
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: car accident and one could end up brain dead, well right,

653
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: from some sort of physical trauma.

654
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: I know, it is just the what if? What if?

655
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: What if?

656
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: This is like you're like, my mind is I know.

657
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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by that. I think they are two of

658
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Speaker 3: the most interesting people on earth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and resilient.

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Speaker 2: Like it's I mean the fact that walk through life

661
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Speaker 2: like this.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere you go, everyone is staring and probably for the

663
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: wrong reasons, you know, Like most people are probably laughing

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00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: and pointing and are really insensitive about their difference. And

665
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Speaker 3: as someone who grew up feeling other than I can

666
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Speaker 3: empathize with that, but I cannot get anywhere near the

667
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Speaker 3: idea of what they feel.

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Speaker 1: Well, because the reality of your situation is like if

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Speaker 1: you exactly if you wanted to pretend, like like if

670
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Speaker 1: you were in a situation with a bunch of straight

671
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: guys like you're you could go in and be like, yeah,

672
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm a straight white dude too, Like you could literally

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to be the guy that just like

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: fit into the easiest scenario or what you felt like

675
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: you needed to in that moment, you could do it,

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00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: and so could I, and so could most humans. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would be self abandonment, and we would hope, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would hope you wouldn't feel the need to do

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Speaker 1: that ever in your life, especially at this point. But

680
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: like you could, and they can't, Like it's just not

681
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Speaker 1: an option. It's never been on the table for them.

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Speaker 1: So I love that you use the word resilient, because

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Speaker 1: I think the idea of that. First of all, this

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Speaker 1: this went viral recently for no reason. They're just like

685
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: living their lives and all of a sudden, they're all

686
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: over the news, the Internet, all these things, and it's like, yeah,

687
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: Abby's like, yeah, I'm happily married and having sex and

688
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: like she's like found her way in her life, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope Brittany has too. We're just not

690
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: hearing as much about it, obviously, because we're talking about

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Speaker 1: Abby's situation with the wedding, But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have a lot of questions about that

693
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: guy too, but that's a whole other podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean that's funny because some of my

695
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: friends their reaction was like, what a fucked up individual.

696
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 3: But it's like, again, it takes a lot to look

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Speaker 3: at a situation and be like, I know this isn't normal,

698
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: but I'm in love with this person and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: make it work.

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Speaker 1: Well, we just don't know him, so it's hard. It

701
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: would be hard to sit here and say anything because

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00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: we don't know the situation. We don't know the relationship,

703
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: we don't know even how they met or anything about

704
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: it him. So other than now, there's articles about some

705
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: paternity thing that really, if you get in and read

706
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: the articles, you're like, what this is not even is

707
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: this real? I'm just like so over the media it's disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the media is It's what's fucked up about

709
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: those stories is the media is asking the questions in

710
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: the article rather than going and getting the answers and

711
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: telling us the facts. Because what it is is there

712
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: is a paternity test. He has a child with his

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: ex wife that there's custody, you know, they share custody,

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00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: and then there's like a non custodial child that they're

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: assuming is the one that was born after they separated. Yes,

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00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: so the assumption is that the mom is saying, well,

717
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: you're not the dad or whatever.

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00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: But he may not be.

719
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: But he may not be, and you know what, like

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Speaker 3: they're not going to know the fucking answer until there's

721
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: a paternity test. H So like it's it's there's no,

722
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: it's an idea. It's not news yet, so stop writing

723
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: about it. Like it becomes news when they're like, oh,

724
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: here's another layer to the story. Wife was cheating, and

725
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: it's news, but it's also none of our business.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with these girls, you really are, like every afternoon.

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00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is is like when we first

728
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: were like do we talk about this, We're like no,

729
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: we can't.

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00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Because you said you were like, no, we can't talk

731
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: about this, but I love them. I'm like so obsessed

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Speaker 1: with this.

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Speaker 3: And then and then she texted me today and she

734
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 3: was like, what are we talking about today?

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, I feel like we have to because.

736
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: And it's so public now and I'm just fascinated by them.

737
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: I think, like I need to go back and find

738
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: their reality show. I've never heard of them until you

739
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: know last week.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing about reality TV, isn't it. It sticks.

741
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's out there somewhere, It's out there.

742
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Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than to know what you

743
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: guys think about this. I mean, obviously be kind as

744
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: you see our intentions with having this conversation, but please

745
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: email us at the edge at velvetedge dot com if

746
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: you have questions where your head is going with this,

747
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: because we're like, I think both Chip and I are

748
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: a bit scrambled if you can be if we're being honest,

749
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Speaker 1: So yeah, email us at the edge at velvetsedge dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can also leave us a voicemail. We have a

751
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: lot of new voicemails and I'm so excited, like I

752
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: got them over this past week. I've kind of going

753
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: through some more and they make me so excited. Like

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00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel the same, Chip, but

755
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: for me, it's just like a direct connection to the

756
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: listeners and I'm like, oh, right, there are people out there.

757
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: We're talking with y'all now, not just like talking into

758
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: microphones and kind of wondering where it's floating off to.

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00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to leave us a voicemail, I

760
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: have that link in my bio on Instagram. It's at

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00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge. Chip also put it in his bio on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: And what is your Handlechip, Chip.

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Speaker 2: Door, Shouls Chip d O R s ch Oh.

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Speaker 1: I still have a lot of questions after this one,

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00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: but many. Hopefully we got just some information across. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's just sparked a little like love.

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm sending them love because I feel like they need

768
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: a little bit of love sent their way right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck the trolls, man, I am over it. Why

770
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: are people such bitches? Like I just can't it's just

771
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: be nice? Why is that so hard? Like? Why can't

772
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: we just be kind to each other?

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting about that whole idea is what

774
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: they are making fun of these women, mostly because of

775
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: their physicality, but in doing so, they are showing that

776
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 3: they are ugly on the inside.

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00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: Way worse, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's so much worse. And that's not me calling Abby

779
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: and Britney ugly. I'm just saying they're making fun of physicality.

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00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like it's just not cute guys

781
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: get it together. No, I actually don't think that we

782
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: have those people listening to this pot cast anymore, thankfully.

783
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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, as you guys go into your weekend

784
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: and hopefully you're living on edge, I hope you always

785
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: remember too.

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Speaker 3: Bye casual, Bye bye