1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The rex was 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. You love sandwiches. Huh, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: let's go to uh eighty. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: It was bo wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: a crush on Betty Rubbell. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: the game. You're listening to Stugatsen Company. It is to 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Gods the. 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Company presented by FanDuel. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: A very special. 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Guest, normally a God blessed football guest, but he is 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: joining us for his first time here on Stegotza Company. 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: How different is this voice? 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Well, he lost his voice at Chris Simms is our 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: regular Thursday guest here God Blessed Football, but Mike Gollock 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Senior is back with us. Hopefully the voice is feeling 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: a little bit better. 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: It's definitely feeling better. I'm just trying to show my 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: versatility by being on multiple shows, so that's that's all. 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: I hope it feels better than it sounds. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: But let me tell you, it was as you guys 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: all know being in this business, when your voice goes, 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I had to miss. I was supposed to 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: call the Monday night game with Kevin Harlan the Cowboys 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: and the Raiders. But I would have done it, but 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: it would have been three hours of scratch of of 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: scratching nails on a chalkboard, and I couldn't do that 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: to Kevin Harlan, So I had to Kevin. 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: Or Kurt Warner had to fill in. 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: I was like, God, I hated missing, but you know, 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: it's the way it goes sometimes. 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: At what stage did Kevin Harlan say, Mike, this ain't 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: fucking happening tonight, Like I cannot call the game with 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: you like this. 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: I was actually in Vegas, but it was in the 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: morning and I was going to do the show I'd 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: do with Mike on FanDuel Sports Network and I couldn't 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: even I couldn't do that. Jason Fitz filled in, and 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: I was trying to drink a lot of tea and 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: and I just you know, I was talking with the 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 3: producer and he's just like, I'm like, I'll try, I'll 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: do it, you know, I have no problem. And he's 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: like yeah, he goes it just it just sounds bad, 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: and you know, three hours of that is just would 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: be awful. 49 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 5: I'm not accusing you of this, Mike, but if one 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: were to want a day off and that person happens 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: to use their voice, isn't it just super easy to 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: just go in the backyard scream at the top of 53 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 5: your lungs for about ten minutes. 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: And be like, oh, Kevin Harlan, can you hear it 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: in my voice? I'm terribly sick. Again not saying that 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: you did this. 57 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: No, that's something you could do if you needed a 58 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: day off. 59 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: I thought the accusation would be I was in Vegas, 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: and would I just take the game off to go gamble, 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: you know, and just stay at the casinos. But no, 62 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: I like God, I hate missing I hate it. Even 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: from the days of playing. I wouldn't miss a game. 64 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: It just it was just awful. But it was. 65 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: It was certainly better for the show Israel. 66 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: He hated missing Tuesday. And he doesn't get paid to 67 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: do this. Okay, Yeah, wait, you were to want a 68 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: day off. 69 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: Wait, I don't get paid heat strategy. 70 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: You have it yet, and by the way, you can't 71 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Vegas cannot be your excuse. 72 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: Ever, if your excuse is hey, Vegas, I mean you're 73 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: gonna get fired, right, I mean that's true. 74 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: I should probably not use that as excuse, right, I'm 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: gambling an FBI investigation. 76 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Mike, I'll get to the college football rankings with 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: you in just a second here. But I was wondering 78 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: because you know Andy Reid, yeah, so well, and people 79 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: are starting to question whether or not the Chiefs are done, 80 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: if they're going to make the playoffs. What do you 81 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: think Andy Reid is telling his team but this juncture 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: in the season, because I would imagine the notion of 83 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: them being done at five and five is laugh at 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: laugh funny to someone like Andy Reid. 85 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt. 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure Andy Reid is just like, stay with the process, 87 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: right there. Process has worked for years. They have a 88 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: lot of the same personality. Get Jason Simmons back, you 89 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: know last week, who had had personal issues and with 90 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: the family and missed a left tackle. Oline had been 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: a concern for them. It was a concern coming into 92 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: the year. Checko is out there relying on Kareem Hunt. 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: They have the receivers, but but the defense hasn't hasn't 94 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: really been playing up to par, but their process for 95 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: them has worked. Andy Reid has been in this business 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: too long to panic and say, oh my god, we 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: need to change everything. He knows his personality, he knows 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: what's going on. He knows they're still in it, though 99 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: they're in a more precarious position this. 100 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Year they than they've been in a while. 101 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: So here's my question on the Chiefs. Right, every loss 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 5: that they've had is a one score loss. Yes, And 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 5: when they were winning every one score game that they played, 104 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: and everybody was like, this team really knows what it's doing. 105 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: So is it a matter of just kind. 106 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: Of they're slightly off or is all that stuff about 107 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: one score game. 108 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Just bs and the league is just really close. 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: Oh, the league is just really close. 110 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: I compare one score wins and losses to turnovers. You're 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: gonna have a bunch one year, but you can't rely 112 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: on it the next year. You know, you can't. You 113 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: can't have them in a year. And then the next 114 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: year say well, we're gonna be guaranteed thirty five turnovers 115 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: because we did it last year. They were twelve and 116 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: zero one score games last year, and now they haven't 117 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: won a one score game this year. They come in 118 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: bunches and then they go. You can't rely on them. 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: You can't put it in the algorithm to say, Okay, 120 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: since it happened last year, it's going to happen this year. 121 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Mike, would you play Jackson Dark the rest of the season? 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Would you play him? Yeah? 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: He needs the reps. 124 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: He's got to learn, I mean, coach the guy to 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: stop dropping his shoulder and trying to run people over. 126 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: I mean, or stop calling runs for him. Now you 127 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: want to use his ability to run. It was like 128 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: Josh Allen's second year in the league. After he ran 129 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: like crazy his first year, the second year, they were like, ah, 130 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: we got to protect him. 131 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: We can't run him as much. 132 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: And all of a sudden they weren't as good and 133 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: they're like, okay, Josh, go back to doing what you do, 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: and they started winning again. 135 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen puts a cape on. 136 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: So Jackson Dart is going to run at times, but 137 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: he's got to be smarter. I mean, you don't see 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: Josh Allen. He runs, but he doesn't drop his shoulder 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: every time and try and barrel somebody over. Jackson Dart 140 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: has to be coached and then has to take the 141 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: coaching and he has to be smarter when he runs. 142 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 6: Mike, speaking of should they play, Joe Burrow had a 143 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: full participation in practice this week. Now they're three games 144 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 6: behind the Steelers, there's seven games left. Are we rushing 145 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 6: him back here or do you think like the Bengals 146 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 6: could possibly make a run year. 147 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: He has to do eleven on eleven drills. They haven't 148 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: done that yet. My guess is they'll do that this morning. 149 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: So I was talking with Mike on our show about 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: this yesterday, and obviously they're not certainly not out of it. 151 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: They're close to being out of it, but they're not 152 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: out of it. And then it's a decision to make. 153 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: So normally how it goes is you hurt something, you 154 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: get it fixed, or you rest, you rehab, doctor tells 155 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: coach he's healthy, and you play. 156 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: That's the norm you play. 157 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: And I'll throw Jaden Daniels in this conversation as well, 158 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: because Washington is out of it right. Jaden Daniels has 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: had a knee injury, a hamstring injury, and a dislocated 160 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: elbow on his non throwing arm, so he's had some 161 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: injuries this year. So for every player, the normal thought 162 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: is you're healthy, you get okay by the doctor, you 163 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: go play, and that's how we all treat it. 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: Every player wants to play. 165 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: But quarterbacks are treated differently, right, especially franchise quarterbacks. And 166 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Burrow was a franchise quarterback and Jade Daniels a franchise quarterback. 167 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: So I think you aldt least have the discussion that says, 168 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: do we want these guys who have had injuries that 169 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: have kept them out for a while to possibly get 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: hurt in a season that's lost and have to rehab 171 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: in the off season instead of having an offseason where 172 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: they're recovered and can get ready for next year, have 173 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: to rehab more if they get hurt, I would guess 174 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: they would play, because that's just what you do when 175 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: you're healthy, you play. But the franchise quarterback position, like 176 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: gets treated differently on the field, would be treated differently 177 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 3: off the field, So I would imagine there would be 178 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: a discussion. There would be no discussion with the players 179 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: they want to play. 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 7: Mike, I'm looking at all the narratives around this Philadelphia 181 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 7: Eagles team, and I'm not sure that this has ever 182 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 7: happened before. But is it possible that the most underrated 183 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 7: team in the NFL is the defending champions. 184 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: I love that. 185 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: Yes, it's underrated. 186 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're underrated. 187 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: They're the most talked about winning team in the NFL, 188 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: that's for sure. Now with the whispers of the inside 189 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: people talking about Jalen Hurts. 190 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: It is amazing. 191 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: The Jalen Hurts since I think twenty two is thirty 192 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: two to one. Yeah, when he doesn't when Philly wins 193 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: the turnover battle and the one game that they lost 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts got knocked out of Is he too conservative 195 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: with his throws at times? Probably most of the time. Yes, 196 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: But guess what, when they don't win the turnover battle, 197 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: they win, and when they win, they win super Bowls. 198 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: They've had success. 199 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: So this process is working now. It's different this year 200 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: because teams are saying, oh, wait, takewon Barkley rush for 201 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: two thousand yards, we better concern ourselves with stopping the run. 202 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: And you lose your right guard McKay beck. 203 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: Then Lane Johnson's out Landon Dickerson's been picked up in 204 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: cam Jurgens has miss time. So the old line is 205 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: not what it was last year. So that has changed. 206 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: But conservative passing has been part of Jalen hurts m O. 207 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: That's just been part of the process. And oh, by 208 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: the way, when you raise the Lombardi Trophy, the process 209 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: is working, yes, Mike. 210 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: When you hear people arguing why Notre Dame is ranked 211 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 5: above Miami or why Notre Dame is ranked where it is, 212 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: how do you sit back and smile because it's got 213 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: to be so much fun when other people are arguing 214 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: for you and you're just like, yeah, we lost. 215 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: That game, but listen to what that guy said. We're 216 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: so ahead of it. 217 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: So as I always say to the Notre Dame haters 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: out there of what happens with Notre Dame in the 219 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: college football playoffs system and that they're independent, why aren't 220 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: they in a conference, I just say. 221 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: Listen, they don't make the rules. 222 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: Okay, they're not part of the thirteen person committee. 223 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: They don't do the voting. 224 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: That they didn't hold a gun to anybody's head when 225 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: the rules were made about them. They're talked to the 226 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: committee about the rankings. So and as far as independence, 227 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: it's come on. They have an easier chance to get 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and they don't have to split the 229 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: money with a conference. Any team that could do that 230 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: would do that. Michigan's talking about going independent with because 231 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: they don't want that that equity investor investing in the 232 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: in the Big ten or the Big eighteen, whatever the 233 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: hell they are now, and said they would threaten to 234 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: go independent if that were to happen. You guys may 235 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: be surprised to hear. I'm a little surprised. Miami beat 236 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: them head to head. Miami beat them head to head. 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: A lot of the rankings of play of schedule power 238 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: are pretty close, and to use the committee is the 239 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: one using the comparative clusters where they go three or 240 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: four teams and then they go another three or four teams. 241 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: And they said they haven't had Notre Dame in Miami 242 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: in the same cluster to use. 243 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: The head to head, What the hell is that? 244 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, speaking as a former player, they played on 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: the field and Miami won. Now is Notre Dame playing 246 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: better than Miami now? Probably are right, yeah, yeah, but 247 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: Miami still beat them. And the reasoning blows my mind. 248 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: The committee every year there is something that moves the 249 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: goalposts that I just scratched my head. So I kind 250 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: of understand Miami being upset. 251 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: Kind of ranking this cluster right now, the five of us. 252 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if Notre Dame loses one of their two 253 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: final games, which of those games concerns you the most? 254 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: Neither, I mean. 255 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Neither Syracuse and Stanford. 256 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean Syracuse on their backup quarterback Steve. Everybody was 257 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: looking forward to that, Steve Vangeli, who started the season 258 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: and at one point was leading the nation in passing 259 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: yards transferred from Notre Dame. 260 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of looking. 261 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: Forward to him, you know, quarterbacking against his former team. 262 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: But he's out, and neither I think both teams have 263 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: three wins each or something. 264 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: Let me just say, if. 265 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: Notre Dame loses any one of those games, either out 266 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: of the playoffs and b they don't deserve to be 267 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, but they're not going to lose either 268 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: one of those games. 269 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: What did you make of James Franklin to Virginia Tech. 270 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean not surprising, I mean right, I mean I 271 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: prot about it. 272 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: For him, it really is. 273 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: You know that it's a good spot for him based 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: on where the expectations are right now. You know, they're 275 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: kind of on a load. They're on an worth. 276 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: They are, and it's not the system that he's going 277 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: to have. 278 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: They have a running quarterback who. 279 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: Leads the team and carries not a lot of sacks 280 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: on defense, not a lot of interceptions. So it's gonna 281 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: all matter on in this new era of football, how 282 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: many guys he can get in the portal, what kind 283 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: of deal, the money they'll they'll be able to hand out, 284 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: and how quickly you can turn that team around. 285 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: You can turn the team. 286 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Around quicker than you normally could in college football, but 287 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: it's still going to take time. 288 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: But there's this whole report out there that Ole miss 289 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: gave Lane Kiffing an ultimatum as to win to decide 290 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: at a job, which sounds utterly ridiculous, Like why would 291 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 5: you do that if you're old miss? I'm not sure 292 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 5: who that necessarily helps there, but Florida LSU? 293 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: Which job do you like? 294 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: Moore? 295 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 5: Do you believe Lane when he says, of course, they 296 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 5: haven't given me an ultimatum. 297 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: I don't. 298 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,239 Speaker 3: I can't believes Mississippi's in no position to give an ultimatum? 299 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: Are they? What? 300 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: I mean? 301 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: Like, what would Mississippi do if Lane didn't give them 302 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: an answer? 303 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: By the ultimate right dates. 304 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds ridiculous, So I don't believe that. 305 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: You know, if you sit there and you look at 306 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: the programs, LSU gets the better best athletes, and they 307 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: get the most guys that go to the pros, But 308 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: for some reason they just haven't been able to get 309 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: into the playoffs. 310 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: Could Lane lead them there? 311 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: Certainly he could, But it all Lane is in a 312 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: great position to get an offer. Old miss said they'll 313 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: match any offers, so the money to him would be 314 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: the same. 315 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: But there's ancillary things. 316 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: Right now. We know there's the. 317 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: Twenty point five million that each athletic department gets to 318 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: disperse amongst all their athletes, so they do that, but 319 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: what kind of nil opportunities at each place for the players, 320 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: which is still a separate entity. Can he get more 321 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: money for his assistant coaches? How is the training facilities? 322 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin's in a position to get anything he wants, 323 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: so then it would if he can get the same 324 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: at all of them. Then it comes down to where 325 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: geographically he wants to be. Where is his family going 326 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: to be the happiest. And I say this about coaches 327 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: and players all the time, Well, it's their choice. Are 328 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: they moving for family, for geography, for chances to win 329 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: a championship? He has Ole Miss playing better right now, 330 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: in a better situation than both LSU and Florida. So 331 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: you think on the field, he's getting the players, they're 332 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: going to be in the playoffs. Why would he leave 333 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: a program that's better off than the other two programs. 334 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: So I don't know why he would leave Old Miss, 335 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: because he's in a position to get whatever he wants 336 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: at any place. 337 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 6: Mike, would you say if he doesn't leave this time, 338 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 6: then he's probably not going to. 339 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Probably probably not. 340 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: I mean, because listen, he's going to be the highest 341 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: paid coach. I forgot talk gone and I forgot who 342 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: the highest paid coach was. I just was talking about essay. 343 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: I think he's making like thirteen mil. Lane will make 344 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: fourteen or fifteen MILLI year. I mean, that's that's the 345 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: easy part because it sounds low because Nick Sabe is 346 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: not coaching anymore now. But but Kirby, there you go, 347 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: thank you. But Lane is in a position to get 348 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: what a deal Nick Saban had. Nick Saban had it 349 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: in his deal. I'm always the highest paid head coach. 350 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: So if another coach got a deal that was higher 351 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: than his, He would go higher. 352 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: Lane could do that. 353 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: Lane is in the catbird seed without question. 354 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: But yes, Mike, he answer your question if he stays 355 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: it and at all miss he's going to sign a 356 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: long deal for a lot of money. Now, as we know, 357 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: that doesn't guarantee you all that time there. But he's 358 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: pretty much planting his flag there. 359 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 6: I feel like Alabama is the only job right now 360 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: that might come up that he could eventually want to 361 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 6: leave for at some point down the road. 362 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 8: If he doesn't leave for LSU or Florida. 363 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 4: I mean, and then that's the thing. 364 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: That's the other thing that comes into an equation with 365 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: a player or a coach. What's their relationship with the school? 366 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: I know he coached there, But does he want to 367 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: go back there? You know that that I don't know. 368 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: That's something only he knows, Especially when he's in a 369 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: position where he's going to get basically the same thing 370 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: everywhere he goes. Then it is completely a personal choice. 371 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley is third on that list at eleven and 372 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: a half million dollars. 373 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: He's a fell I mean right, I mean. 374 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: They makes some money, Yeah, they make some money. 375 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, for not winning I mean, yeah. 376 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: That's why so I buyouts are so big. 377 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: By the way, Dabo's fourth. 378 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 8: Bellicheck is ninth. 379 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: What he's ninth overpaid ten million year or something like that. 380 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, just ahead of Lane Kiffen. 381 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: If somehow Old Miss, if Lane Kiffin doesn't give them 382 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: an answer and Old Miss is true to their word 383 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: and they say Lane and get the fuck out. Do 384 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: you think Brian Kelly will coach Whole Miss in the playoff? 385 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: Oh? 386 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: God, no, I do not. I do not. 387 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: He wants to. 388 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: You know who they would probably if Lane left, they 389 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: would probably interim maybe Charlie Weiss junior, who's the offensive coordinator. 390 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: He would be an unbelievable young interim head coach. But 391 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: he's on the road to eventually being a head coach 392 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: in college. But I can't imagine Mississippi putting themselves in 393 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: that position where they make the playoffs and they. 394 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: Have it not don't have Lane as a coach. 395 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: Mike, put us where you are because I know how 396 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: in important this is to you and to notre dame 397 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: that Texas A and M remain undefeated, remained rank very 398 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: where were you second half? Texas A and M storming 399 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: back against South Carolina. 400 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. 401 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: I was actually flying to Vegas then to not call 402 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: a game. I was like, oh my god, no, because already, 403 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: you know Oklahoma beating Alabama. That worried me that both 404 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: that Oklahoma, that Alabama would stay ahead of Notre Dame 405 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: and Oklahoma would move ahead of Notre Dame, and then 406 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: if Texas or if A and m were to lose, 407 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: that loss wouldn't be as good a loss. 408 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: I thought, Oh my god, things would not be falling right. 409 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: For Notre Dame because at this point, both eleven and 410 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: twelve are trap doors, right because the ACC is outside 411 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: of the top twelve and the Group of five is 412 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: outside the top twelve. They're going to take the eleven 413 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: and the twelve spot. Now that's going to change, I think, 414 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: especially with the ACC. But it gets precarious at ten, eleven, 415 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: and twelve. Notre Dames sitting at nine, I doubt they're 416 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: really going to move up anymore, right, because of the 417 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: two games they have left, they're probably they hopefully can 418 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: stay to nine and if Miami gets closer, If Miami 419 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: moves up and gets in the same cluster that the 420 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: committee talks about, then that head to head is going 421 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: to come into play. 422 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: Like I know Stu said, this wasn't God bless football, 423 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 5: but I just feel the need to say God bless you. 424 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, episode, God bless Polis. I mean, yes, how 425 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: about that? 426 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: How about that? Always getting a God blessing? I love that, 427 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: we love you. 428 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and your voice held up very very well. 429 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: I got better as you went along it did it. 430 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: It definitely feels feels better. 431 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: As like I said, As we all know in this business, 432 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: your voice is your job so tough to lose and 433 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: sound good when it's. 434 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: Like scratchy and bad. Yes, but you were going to 435 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: try to call that game. 436 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you right now inside information Kevin 437 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: Harlan called. 438 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: A code red it. 439 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: He was just like, listen his his voice and then 440 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: me talking after that would have been horrific, would have 441 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: been horrific, horrible for him. 442 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: Well, it must have broke your heart because I know 443 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: how much you love doing games with Harlan and you 444 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: don't get to do him that much. 445 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: No, no love doing love doing them with Kevin. 446 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that was That was a bummer. I was bummed, 447 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 4: but it was it was for the best, all right, Mike. 448 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: We appreciated, Golick and Golick every afternoon on the FANDUL 449 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: Sports Network. 450 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: God bless Football, My fuck it, God blessed Football. God Hell. 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It's a tough 494 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: word for me to say for soldiers, is what I was. 495 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: Trying to say. How about that, really, Stoyakovic? 496 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, yes, the Stiago is big 497 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 5: news that he's a good player, But the update just 498 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: could have been college basketball has started and. 499 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Steve guys would have been wow. I didn't know that. 500 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: Yes, And also you cannot have an upset. But we're 501 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: five or six games into the season. Number eleven Alabama upset, 502 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: number eight Illinois ninety to eighty six. Seeing a Stoyakovich 503 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: on the update and it's not Pegia that makes me 504 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: feel old. 505 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: I think I saw a tall out of the court 506 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: last night. Is that even possible? Really? Yes? Wow? I 507 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: didn't think Ada would make it in sports. 508 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 5: I think his dad would just like teach or would 509 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: just raise like a Somalier or something. 510 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 7: So Sotoyakovich is on his third team in three years. 511 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 7: He started at Stanford, he then transferred to cal and 512 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 7: then this pass offseason he transferred to Illinois. 513 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: So, by the way, yeah, I know we're not supposed 514 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 5: to talk about it, but sometimes we do. The high 515 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 5: heels are we sure it was for soldiers, because I 516 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 5: was under the impression that they were back in the 517 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: day when they was shit on the street because it 518 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 5: was just horses taking people everywhere, that you have the 519 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: high heel so you could avoid walking and shit. 520 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 7: So this says high heel shoes originated in medieval medieval 521 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 7: Persia as a practical piece of footwear for mal cavalry 522 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 7: to help secure their feet and stirrups, allowing them to 523 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 7: stand in fire arrows. 524 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 8: More accurately, I saw. 525 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: That as well, but I didn't think that was the 526 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 5: origin of them. But hey, we don't have to sit 527 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: in this. 528 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Plus they get a height advantage. 529 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 8: I mean, plus they look good forms. 530 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 7: My girlfriend sounds like My girlfriend sounds like she's going 531 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 7: to war every time she puts those things off. 532 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: In the war several times. 533 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: Everybody knows a good advantage in war to be a 534 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 5: little bit taller, because it's all about posting up your appointment. 535 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: Speak steps. Yeah, go ahead. 536 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 5: I'm laughing at the idea that the NBA should be 537 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 5: really mad at the Golden State Warriors for not playing 538 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 5: anybody yesterday. If you didn't know, you know, they're at 539 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: the end of a six game road trip. It's the 540 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: second game of back to back. They lost in Orlando 541 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: the night before, and so in Miami you get no 542 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler, no Steph Curry, no Draymond Greed, and you 543 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 5: got a bunch of people could play the last year'stu 544 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 5: When I was there, we did a little bit before 545 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: that game, so we were talking to a bunch of fans, 546 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 5: I mean, and Alhasset and myself, and one of every 547 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 5: three people were wearing Steph Curry jerseys. And I would say, 548 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 5: of those one in three, one in three of those 549 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: English wasn't even their first language, because they talked to 550 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 5: them and they no, no Steph Curry, and I'd be like, Wow, 551 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 5: this person's never been to a game before. 552 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: They just want to see Steph Curry. 553 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: And in Miami, I do feel like, yeah, there could 554 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: be like a handful, a good amount, like I'm saying here, 555 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 5: of disappointed fans because they're not going to see him. 556 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: But I don't really give a shit if I'm a 557 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: fan of the home team, really who's playing on the 558 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 5: other side, Like if I come to a game, whether 559 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: I have season tickets or whether I'm just coming to 560 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: one game, Like my big thing is I want to 561 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 5: see my team. I want to see my team, and 562 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: if my team can win, that's a bonus. And if 563 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: my team can win against an opponent, that's really good 564 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: double bonus. But if I show up and it's no 565 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 5: Steph Curry, It's like I'm bummed out. But I'm still 566 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 5: going to watch and analyze and cheer on my team 567 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: and say, all right, we're gonna get this win anyway. 568 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 5: Let's see what happens and how we're gonna get this, 569 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 5: and I'll take a free win. Also if I'm a 570 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: big fan of this team. So I just don't think 571 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: it's that huge of a complaint because, yeah, the people 572 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 5: that only get to see Steph Curry one night a year, Okay, 573 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 5: well maybe you can go somewhere else and watch them, 574 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 5: maybe watch them on TV, but at least you got 575 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 5: to see your team winning game. 576 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: I buy your premise. 577 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 6: Is the only problem is like ticket prices change based 578 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 6: on who you're playing. 579 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna buy. 580 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 6: Usually most people now are probably buying on secondary markets. 581 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 6: If I'm buying tickets and I'm paying extra because the 582 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: Golden State Warriors are coming to town and I'm gonna 583 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 6: get to see my team against Steph Curry, then I'm 584 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 6: gonna be really disappointed that I spent that extra money 585 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: to not see him. 586 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 5: Right, But that's what I'm saying, is like, Yeah, if 587 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: you are only going to the game to see the opponent, 588 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: it's the risk you take, like you don't at least 589 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 5: have the backup option, the fallback option of all right, 590 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 5: at least I'll get to see my team. I'll get 591 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 5: a free win out of it, and I can sit 592 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 5: there and just really analyze them. Even though it's against lesser, 593 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 5: you know, opponents, I can analyze them. Again, I'm not 594 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 5: saying there isn't any reason to be to be disappointed. 595 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: But if you're if that's the. 596 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 5: One game you're going to and it's all about the 597 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 5: other teams, guys. 598 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Like that, don't. 599 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 5: I don't think that that's the main reason you should 600 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: be going to a home game. 601 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: It's a star driven league, you know this, And so 602 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: Mikey is right. People do that. They see Golden State, 603 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: they see Steph. They like the heat. They don't love 604 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: the heat. 605 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: They just want to see Steph Garrett play basketball against 606 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: the heat. And so that's the game they pay for. 607 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: They circle it, do literally take it's the whole thing, 608 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: and you're right, those are the chances. Those are the 609 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: chances that you take. But if you're a Heat fan 610 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: and you get to the game and the other team 611 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: stars aren't showing up, that makes the job of your 612 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: home team easier in terms of winning a basketball game. 613 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: You kick back, you probably have an extra beer. You're 614 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: just like, this team doesn't need me. That Dempsky guy 615 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: is the best guy they have on offense. 616 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: You know, White show Hey is what we call him, 617 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 5: who also said he wants to be as good as 618 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 5: Steph Curry. 619 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 6: This doesn't happen often in football, but the way I 620 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 6: can equate it really good is baseball. Like, imagine you're 621 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 6: gonna buy tickets to the Dodger, you know, my team 622 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 6: against the Dodgers, and Otani's gonna sit and Freeman's gonna sit. 623 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 8: You're gonna be like, why did I spend this month? 624 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 6: Like I didn't come here to watch you know, the 625 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 6: utility infielder. I came here to see the stars. 626 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: Here's the thing, though, in basketball in particular, if you 627 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: are like you guys said, circling the date like you're 628 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 5: doing it ideally on a Warriors schedule, right, maybe a 629 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: little schedule magnet, maybe a little dry race. Look at 630 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: the schedule, look and say, hey, it's the second night 631 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 5: of a back to back, it's the last game of 632 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 5: a road trip. 633 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: Fans that do way too much once the schedule comes. 634 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: Out, Well, if you're gonna buy it the magne, you 635 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: just want to stick it on your fridge. 636 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: You want to stake Steph Curry's playing. 637 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 5: If you are doing what Mikey said and spending money 638 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: for your family to go see it, You're gonna do. 639 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: A little bit of a little bit of research. 640 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 5: And if you can do that and say maybe it's 641 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 5: less expensive, or maybe I should just try them in 642 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 5: another city when I'm there or another season. But like, yeah, 643 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 5: this sea, it was all right in front of you 644 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 5: right there to be like probably not going to play 645 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: this game. 646 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 7: I like to consider myself the voice of the fans, 647 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 7: So I'm trying to come up with an idea for 648 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 7: the fans. 649 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 8: There should be a star. 650 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 7: Rating for a game, and if teams don't meet that 651 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 7: rating or threshold with players out, concessions, free tickets refunded, 652 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 7: you lose. You lose the TV money for that game. 653 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 5: Wow, So you're the voice of the irrational fan tickets 654 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: are I mean, you had me there at concessions. 655 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: Right right up until the TV dollars. 656 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 7: Well, the TV dollars would be if the road team 657 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 7: isn't meeting the star rating, like you're you're you're looking 658 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 7: at the star rating before a game and it's like, 659 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 7: oh wait, you just lost Steph Curry and you replaced 660 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 7: him with somebody named Guy Santos. Your star rating is plummeting. 661 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 6: I'm thinking of how many teams can't make the star 662 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 6: rating with their starting lineup. 663 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. The Wizards have some respect on Santos, 664 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: his name. I have a solution. 665 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: Just fucking play basketball. How does that sound? Play eighty 666 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: two games? How does that sound? 667 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: Well? 668 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: I told you before he had a three year span 669 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: where he won three consecutive NBA Finals, three consecutive NBA 670 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Finals MVPs, three consecutive regular season MVPs. 671 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: And because they went. 672 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: To the finals, they played a lot of basketball over 673 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: those three seasons. 674 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Guess how many games he missed? 675 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: Four? 676 00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: Zero? What come back? You circle the calendar because Jordan 677 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: was coming to town. 678 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: Guess what when you showed up to the arena, Michael 679 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: Jordan was gonna play basketball. 680 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: It's eighty two games a year. 681 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry I didn't get angry enough at Steve 682 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: Kerr when you brought it up, because Steve Kerr is 683 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: worried about pace of play and players getting hurt and this, 684 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: and that he invented the. 685 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: Fucking pace of play. 686 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: The thing that he's worried about is the thing that 687 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: he invented because they were light years ahead of everyone else, 688 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: and now that everyone else is doing what Steve Kerr invented, 689 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: he's upset about it. And now because he can't do 690 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: it anymore, he is worried about everyone else's health. 691 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here, Kerr. 692 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 5: The definition of a slippery slope. He started the pattern 693 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: of fast play. But they if everybody today or any 694 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 5: team today will be playing at that Warrior's pace, they'd 695 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 5: be last in the league. And so right now it's 696 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 5: like everybody's playing even faster than those Warriors did, and 697 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: Steve Kerr's like, WHOA, everybody's slow down. 698 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 7: So STU, I'm looking at Michael Jordan's game logs here, 699 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 7: starting in eighty six, eighty seven, eighty two games played, 700 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 7: eighty two games played, eighty one games played, eighty two, 701 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 7: eighty two, eighty. 702 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 8: Seventy eight, retired to play MLB baseball. 703 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 704 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: I probably still played eighty two games of basketball somehow 705 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: that year, just not against players in the NBA. 706 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Why because he fucking cared