1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: From Media Doors World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: is Kel's we Can Review with Ryan kel Kellan. Now 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: Here's Kel. The Montana Grizzlies have been running up the 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: score on bow hunters this September. I'm talking about actual bears, 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: not the school mascot at the University of Montana. The 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Gravelly Range is located in the southwest portion of the state. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: It's historic grizzly country, but their numbers over that way 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: we're pretty low up until the past decade or so. 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: This year, however, four bow hunters have been mauled in 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: two separate incidents in less than a ten day time period, 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: more evidence that grizzlies around the rebound across the Greater 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Yellowstone Ecosystem or g y E, of which the Gravelly 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Range is apart. The grizz population totaled only a hundred 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: and fifty animals throughout the g y E in the 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: nine seventies, but it's now stim aid at over seven hundred. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: Grizzly encounters have gone from barroom bluster to a regular 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: occurrence for outdoor enthusiasts during fall and spring in some 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: areas of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. These bears are a 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: part of life, and unless we screw things up again, 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: they're not going away. Grizzlies are incredibly powerful animals that 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: can cause serious damage to humans, livestock, and property. In 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: short order, the bears were pushed and killed from the 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: vast majority of their historic ranges because of their inherent destructiveness. 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Because of the general scarcity of bears during the relatively 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: new phenomenon we call conservation, we were slow to realize 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: the long term effects of killing off these animals, and 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: even slower to decide if we actually wanted to have 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: these amazing but fearsome predators around at all. That's right, 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: A decision had to be made to save the grizzly, 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: just like the bison or the passenger pigeon. Two out 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: of three ain't bad, right. As history has proven, we 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: like the big animals more than the smaller animals that 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: fluent flocks containing billions of individuals capable of blanketing entire 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: towns with fee season, deafening the inhabitants of those towns 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: with their calls. John James Autobon, the namesake of the 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Autobon Society, had a first time account of a passenger 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: pigeon flock that stretched continuously for over fifty miles as 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: he traveled and continued for three days. He estimated at 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: times three hundred million pigeons passed him each hour. We 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: eradicated this species and only forty years down to the 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: last bird, Martha, who lived outter days in the Cincinnati Zoo. 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Now nobody specifically calls out the fact that pigeon poop 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: led to the extirpation of the passenger pigeon, but I'm 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: sure it didn't help their case. People haven't changed that much. 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: But back to grizzlies, I for one think that having 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: these bears in the woods has enhanced my outdoor experience. 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Growing up in Montana, I spent a lot of time 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: in the woods, and all that time has provided exactly 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: three genuine close calls with exactly eight grizzlies and a 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: handful of other run ins that were just a bit 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: too close for comfort. But neither I nor anyone else 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: in my party have been scratched up or stomped on 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: by one. I imagine my opinion of bears might be 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: different if something like that had happened, But then again, 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: maybe not. In both of these recent instances, the hunters 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: involved chose to use sidearms instead of bear spray as 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: a self defense measure. Has previously reported here on The 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: Weekend Review. Bear spray is not magic. There is no 59 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: guarantee it will deter a bear, but studies have shown 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: bear spray to be far more effective than handguns. Additionally, 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: bear spray is much less likely to leave a wounded 62 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: grizzly in the woods and a firearm. I'm not valuing 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: bear life over human life as much as I'm saying 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: a wounded bear is more likely to cause trouble out 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: of desperation than a bear that got a snout full 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: of burning, stinging capsation. You know that mouth tingling stuff 67 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: that gets to you with any pepper. Additionally, most people 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: are not trained in either the rapid deployment of a 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: side arm or in the methods of what it takes 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: to become accurate and proficient with one, Especially while several 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: hundred pounds of menacing, imposing mama bear is coming at you. 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Most folks would call that a stressful city situation. As 73 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: I am no firearm expert, I thought I would reach 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: out to one friend of mine, a major Taylor United 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: States Marine Corps retired. Just to touch on his bona fides, 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: he was eight years as a Marine Special Operator a 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: k A. Marine Raider and brief summary. He related to 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: me that during Special operators basic training, they will spend 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: one and a half months out of nine months just 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: training on rifle and pistol two weeks rifle, two weeks 81 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: pistol two weeks combined. To qualify and move on in 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: the program, they must engage human targets at twenty five 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: yards transitioning from rifle to pistol. That's draw put two 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: pistol rounds in a six inch circle in two and 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: a half seconds. Keep in mind that this is training 86 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: you get before you get assigned to a team. Once 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: you get assigned to a team, the training gets more 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: frequent and more in depth. Now you may be thinking 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: to yourself, well, what's that got to do with me 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: these folks that go through that type of training or 91 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: the pros. But isn't that how we like to think 92 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: of ourselves in the woods. The transition between pistol and 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: rifle is relatable to dropping your bow and rowing a 94 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: pistol or bear spray. You may not think it would 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: matter on a large bear to hit the target equivalent 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: of a six inch spot. But as most hunters have experienced, 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: accuracy is what stops things. These guys and gals are 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: training to put two minuscule projectiles about the size of 99 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: the last bone on your pinky finger distal phalangi on 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: a target at about seventy ft. Most bear spread is 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: propelling the deterrent in a cone shaped cloud that expands 102 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: at distance, remaining effective out to a thirty or thirty 103 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: five ft Looking only at the U d At brand 104 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: bear spray, which this is not an endorsement of that 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: type of bear spray, It's just that they had the 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: site that had the chart. Ud Doubt states that at 107 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: five ft, the diameter of the bear spray will be 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: twenty nine inches by one inches. At thirty ft it 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: will be ches by a hundred nineteen inches. That's roughly 110 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the size of a Boo boo size bear at five 111 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: ft and a foot, taller than your average refrigerator and 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: almost three times as wide. At thirty ft, that's bigger 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: than your average bear. Based off of the side of 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the quote, projectile alone, what are you more likely to 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: hit a target with? You can carry both for all 116 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: I care, but I go with the math first, and 117 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: the math says bear spray. One last thing on this 118 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I called Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks and spoke with 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: a very nice person named Laurie who told me that 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: in extreme cases, when a bear has already attacked a person, 121 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: the person has been able to spray bear spray when 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: they would not be able to discharge a firearm. The 123 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: spray would also cover themselves, but it had been effective 124 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: at the turning the attack. 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Go 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: check out the article love and Loss Cal's New Mexico 144 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Elk hunt at the mediator dot com. I tried my 145 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: best to hold nothing back and give the real details 146 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: of what can happen during a hunt the loss of 147 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: an animal that's been hit. In addition to that narrative, 148 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: you'll be able to find all the rest of the 149 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: information that you'll need for the duck blind Elk Woods 150 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: and your next long road trip. Since I brought it 151 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: up already, I thought i'd tell you real succinctly about 152 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the first time I got charged by a grizzly bear. 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Just so, nobody in the Gravelly Range thanks, I'm picking 154 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: on them without a leg to stand on. So way 155 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: back when, after a few months and NonStop grinding, I 156 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: have a day off, and being as it was spring 157 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: and there had been a fire up on Mariah's Pass, 158 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: I headed that direction with my two yellow labs to 159 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: uh see about some mushroom picking. It was far too 160 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: early for mushrooms, but that and the possibility of finding 161 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: a move shed was the excuse I had to head 162 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: in the woods. I had the normal stuff one goes 163 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: into the woods with water backpack, the ability to make fire, 164 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: some food, and I had a Springfield Arms Model nineteen 165 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: eleven forty five caliber pistol on my hip. The Girls 166 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and I, the girls being my two yellow labs. They 167 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: were sisters and almost never apart, headed up a random 168 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: ridge off a skyland road on Mariah's Pass. The ground 169 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: went from half frozen grass and mud to mostly solid snow, 170 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: which would occasionally break and send a leg to post 171 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: hole down about eighteen inches or so. My path took 172 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: the Girls and Eye into a small patch of green 173 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: timber about the size of a school bus. These dogs, mine, 174 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: were phenomenal bird dogs, and I was always training them. Consequently, 175 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: I had them staying steady at heel, Fish, the bigger 176 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: the two, always on my left side, Scout the troublemaker, 177 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: always on the right. I think it was ultimately very 178 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: lucky that this was the case, and I had spent 179 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: the time training these dogs as we stepped into this 180 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: small oblong thick at a timber. As soon as we did, 181 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: I caught movement, a fast flash of golden hair. Part 182 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: of my brain said, bull elk. The other part said, 183 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, damn well, that's not a bull elk. What 184 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: I saw flashing through the trees was a small I 185 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: guessed first time Mama griz. Beyond her, I could see 186 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: and hear two cubs of the year absolutely hauling their 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: fuzzy weir ends as fast as they could go in 188 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: the opposite direction, which was good. Maybe Mom would follow. 189 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: What was bad, I guessed was that the cubs were 190 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: screaming their heads off, as if like in that old 191 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: Charley Daniels song Uneasy Writer, their heads were on fire 192 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: and their asses was catching. Mom would ultimately charge the 193 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: girls and I three times. Each time she would come 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: a little bit closer. I don't know exactly how close 195 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: she got, but I distinctly you remember thinking that if 196 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I had my flyer rod in hand, I could have 197 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: reached out and poked her in the eye when she 198 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: hit the brakes in front of us on the last charge. 199 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I also very distinctly remember thinking, Wow, this is it. 200 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: This is really gonna happen. However, I had these two amazing, 201 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: beautiful yellow labs that, as demonstrated by their ability to 202 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: hold heal even in the face of a charging confused 203 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Mama Grizz. Obviously, these dogs had placed all of their 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: faith in me, So in spite of the fact that 205 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: I had one of the most successful, tried and true 206 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: performing pistols on my hip, all I could think to 207 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: do was to turn to the girls Fish on my 208 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: left Scout on my right and say, along with the 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: usual hand signal, WHOA. Then turned to the young Mama 210 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: Grizz and say WHOA. I don't know why, but eventually, 211 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: on her third charge, she just looked directly at the 212 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: big dog Fish on the left, myself in the middle, 213 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: and then Scout on the right, then turned and sprinted 214 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: off in the direction her kids had gone. Had I 215 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: just been by myself, who knows how I would have reacted. 216 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: I sure don't. A recently produced analysis of bear attacks 217 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: combined by Smith and Herrero of b y U and 218 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the University of Calgary. I'll let you guess which one 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: of these guys is from b y U. That's a 220 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: bad joke, because everybody knows Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, 221 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: and uh the guy from b y U is named Smith. 222 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Moving on, these guys looked at documented bear attacks from 223 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty to two thousand fifteen. It's really great work 224 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and fascinating, not all the way through their findings, but 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: as they pertain to the story I just told individual 226 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: bears make up the majority of attacks, so the family 227 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: group I encountered would be in the minority of attacks 228 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: at thirty two percent. And as it turns out, when 229 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: domestic dogs intervene, they managed to terminate the attack forty 230 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: seven point five percent of the time, although they also 231 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: found that domestic dogs instigated the attack twelve point five 232 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: percent of the time. I'm not sure if this makes 233 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: a case for dogs in the woods or not. If 234 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: you're sick of my personal stories, that's too bad. This 235 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: next one is really short, and I'll lead into one 236 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: of my favorite topics, public access. I'm way back from 237 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: New Mexico. I got a text from a neighbor telling 238 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: me that I hoped I didn't need my truck when 239 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: I got back from wherever I was. Along with the 240 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: text was a picture of my truck parked in front 241 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: of my place as I had left it, but now 242 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: it was behind traffic cones and caution tape. It seemed 243 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: that the parking lot had gotten repaved while I was away, 244 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and they just went ahead and repaved around my truck, 245 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: which was fine, but it left the truck inaccessible until 246 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: the asphalt curried up. When I eventually got home, the 247 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: truck was still in quarantine and there was a note 248 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: on my door informing me that this repay was going 249 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: to happen and I should move my truck, which if 250 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: I would have been home, would have been no big deal. 251 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: But what got my hackles up is we all pay 252 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: into a homeowners association or h o A. The idea 253 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: being is that you collectively throw cash into a fun 254 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: and folks get paid to take care of things like, 255 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, repaving the parking lot. I guess. So what 256 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: irked me was that I get emails all the time 257 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: telling me to pay my bill, but I never get 258 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: any useful prior notice that my truck needed to be 259 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: moved or else it would be paved in. Totally mundane boring, 260 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: who really care stuff? But the telling you of my 261 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: im menial situation allows me to tell you about some 262 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: truly nefarious stuff. A few other h o as are 263 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: involved in things that if you are a person who 264 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: loves general freedom and access to public ground and water, 265 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: need to know about, such as right now and Anchorage, Alaska, 266 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: the story of Campbell Lake is unfolding. Campbell Lake is 267 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: a lake which, according to Alaska state laws, public if 268 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: you can access it. The State of Alaska, in order 269 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: to make Alaska more appealing to potential new residents and taxpayers, 270 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: has fantastic access laws that state free access to the 271 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: navigable or public waters of the state, as desfined by 272 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: the legislature, shall not be denied any citizen of the 273 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: United States or resident of the state, except that the 274 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: legislature made by a general law regulate and limit such 275 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: access for other beneficial uses or public purposes. The legal 276 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: definition of navigable waterways in Alaska, as adopted by the Legislature, 277 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: navigable water in any water of the state forming a river, stream, lake, pond, slew, creek, bay, sound, estuary, inlet, 278 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: straight passage, canal, sea, or ocean, or any other body 279 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: of water or waterway within the territorial limits of the 280 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: state or subject to its jurisdiction that is navigable in fact, 281 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: in any season, whether in a frozen or liquid state, 282 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: and for any useful public purpose, including water suitable for 283 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: commercial navigation, floating of logs, landing and takeoff of aircraft, 284 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: and public boating, trapping, hunting, waterfowl and aquatic animals, fishing, 285 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: or other public recreational purposes. And furthermore that the section 286 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: lines the giant Jeffersonian grid system that so much of 287 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: the West is framed by are also public easements. A 288 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: section line easement is a public right of way thirty 289 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: three to one hundred feet wide that runs along a 290 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: section line of the rectangular survey system. Section line easements 291 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: in Alaska fall under reviased Statute to four seven seven, 292 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: commonly referred to as r S to four seven seven. 293 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: According to the Department of Natural Resources, all thirty three 294 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: and sixty six foot wide section line ease months were 295 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: acquired by the state under RS two four seven seven, 296 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: regardless of whether trails have been developed along them. Also, 297 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: fifty and a hundred foot wide ease months along section 298 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: lines have narrow RS two four seven seven rights of 299 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: way inside them, and r S two four seven seven 300 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: right away is a type of public easement that the 301 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: State of Alaska required under a longstanding federal law, which, 302 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: if you like to hunt and fish, this is one 303 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: heck of a pro access pro getting after it law. 304 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: The rest of this story you can find at the 305 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: Alaska Land Mine, home of Explosive Alaska News. It's a 306 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: really fantastic piece of journalism, and I'll let the authors 307 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: speak for themselves, So go check it out. If this 308 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: access issue is just too darn far removed from the 309 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: lower forty eight, as I've found most Askin's like to 310 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: think of themselves anyway, take a look a little bit 311 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: closer to home, my former home, to be exact, the 312 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: Wood River Valley of south central Idaho. Right now, another 313 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: h o A is fighting an easement that allows public 314 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: access to the Big Wood River. The Big Wood is 315 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: a famous river for a number of reasons, but mainly 316 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: because it cuts its way through the original jet set 317 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: ski destination for the rich and famous Sun Valley, and 318 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: henning Way himself fished, hunted, and eventually killed himself just 319 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: a stone's throw from its banks. The Aspen Lake Subdivision 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: h o A is fighting a public easement that provides 321 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: access to the Big Wood River in the State of 322 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: Idaho navigable streams or public domain below the high water mark, 323 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: which makes these types of ease months doubly important for 324 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: freedom loving folks that love to go check out the 325 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: outdoors and need access to them. This is not some 326 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: horrible infringement of private property riots, as the entire subdivision 327 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: would not have existed, as in it never would have 328 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: been allowed without the easeman in question. While Aspen Lake 329 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Drive and the land around it are private, the public 330 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: quote shall have access to the roads and river. According 331 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: to a plat note written when the subdivision was established 332 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. As part of the agreement, the 333 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: county maintains a fifteen foot easement parallel to the east 334 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: bank of the Big Wood, with two public paths to 335 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: get there, and it has access to an eighty foot 336 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: right away along the street itself. Despite this, Aspen Lakes 337 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: h o A is towing vehicles and doing its best 338 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: to fight public access, just like the case of access 339 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: to Campbell Link and Anchorage, and having nothing to do 340 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: with my own h o A issues. The reason I 341 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: bring this up is easements are incredibly important to public 342 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: access to public lands, and as we can see, they're 343 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: volatile things that can be fought in court, even when 344 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: in the wrong, like in the Wood River Valley. This 345 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: land belongs to all of us. Yet time and time again, 346 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: the very few have proven that they are willing to 347 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: fight these easements in order to make there are short 348 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: times here on earth. Somehow, better conservation is making things 349 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: better for the next generation. Something we all need to 350 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: keep in mind, something Henyway did when he was in 351 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: that valley, and something the state of Alaska try to 352 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: ensure before it was even a state. So once again, 353 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: if you like to do anything in the out of 354 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: doors right nop ed, call state senator and let them 355 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: know you demand that these easements or a reasonable replacement 356 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: that provides the same or better amount of access are 357 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: established or maintained. Any access issue being in your backyard 358 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: or five states over, affects all of us. We need 359 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: to behave that way. Moving on, we've got a lot 360 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: to cover. Let's jump over to our ornithology desk. Do 361 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: you feel like you're hearing fewer birds in the woods 362 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: than you did when you were a kid, Well, according 363 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: to a new study published in the journal Science, you 364 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: probably are. Since nineteen seventy, the total number of breeding 365 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: age birds in North America has dropped by nearly three billion. 366 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: That's billion with a B. The researchers who worked on 367 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: this study looked at numerous birds surveys. Then they cross 368 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: reference those survey results with radar data from weather stations, 369 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: which pick up flocks of birds while scanning for storms. 370 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Their results estimate that North America has lost thirty percent 371 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: of its birds grassland birds, forest birds, shore birds, sparrows, warblers, blackbirds, 372 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: and finches are disappearing in the largest numbers, averaging at loss. 373 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: But it's not all bad news. Raptor numbers are up 374 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: since we quit spraying DDT back in the sixties. One 375 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: takeaway I find particularly interesting is that certain game birds increased. 376 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Turkey and grouse numbers are up overall, and waterfowl increased 377 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: fifty six percent over the past fifty years, a testament 378 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: to the power of engaged and motivated conservation on the 379 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: part of hunters. The challenge now is getting people to 380 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: care about songbirds, shore birds, and common birds with the 381 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: same passion that water fowlers have for ducks and geese. 382 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the one who suggests an 383 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: open season on warblers and blackbirds, but maybe someone should. 384 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: After all, in modern times, if you can hunt, it 385 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: typically doesn't go away. It increases in population. We're gonna 386 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: wrap up this episode at the Stuff That Swims Desk. 387 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: Everyone is ecstatic about the return of porpoises to the 388 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Potomac River, a clear indication that the once near toxic 389 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: watershed is cleaning up. The fact that all the other 390 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: news outlets keep mentioning is the porpoises are making new 391 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: porpoises in the Potomac watershed healthy enough to breed him. 392 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: But still, do you want to drink it? That's a 393 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: reference to an old joke that fishermen used to make 394 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: on why they don't drink water fish have sex in there. 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: We'll finish back in Idaho, where for the second time 396 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: in Idaho fisheries history, the steel head season has been 397 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: shut down. The first time the closing of the fishery 398 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: happened was just last year. The Upper Salmon River region 399 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: in Idaho represents one of the best long term cold 400 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: water storage wrongholds in the US. High elevation peaks trap 401 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: and store snow and ice that eventually runs downstream, ideally 402 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: with a bunch of salmon and steel heads. Small to 403 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: the Snake River. The snake runs into the Columbia and 404 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: eventually out to the ocean, cooling the waters as it 405 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: goes cool. Clean water is good for fish. I'm sure 406 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: that is not a shock for you. What is not 407 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: good for fish are the Lower Snake River dams, which 408 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: have the effect of storing that cold water and warming it, 409 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: as well as allowing a host of predators that range 410 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: from sea lions and seals, too pike, minnows, and smallmouth 411 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: bass to heavily predate upon the native steel head and salmon. 412 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: The four Lower Snake River dams, which are administered by 413 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: the Bonneville Power Association, are in need of serious repair. 414 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: They do not supply the power they once did, nor 415 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: the irrigation, and they are taking part of the killing 416 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: off of what was once one of the greatest salmon 417 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: and steel head runs in the world. So, instead of 418 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: calling Idaho Fishing Game and asking about fishing, called Congressman 419 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: creepoh Rish in a representative fulter's office and ask them 420 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: if think hatcheries will be able to save this situation. 421 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: This is also the first time that the hatchery at 422 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: door Shack will not have enough returns to meet their 423 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: broodstock requirements. Ever, living on a river with no fish 424 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 1: just doesn't sound like any fun to me, and there 425 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: are plenty of folks out there who make their living 426 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: off of these incredible fish that tumble downstream from snow 427 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: choked waters in the Upper Salmon and come back as big, 428 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: tasty fish in numbers that used to be in the millions. 429 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Let's not forget the passenger pigeon. 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