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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Talking to people in Indianapolis last week, as

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Speaker 1: I did, little quips like that, he doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: a head coach at all. Probably flores tough, take no

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Speaker 1: bullet kind of guy. Whoa, hey, hey, whoa. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: assuming that the Patriots that Patricia's gonna be coaching again.

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Speaker 1: That's at least what I'm hearing that. What you're hearing

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Speaker 1: were you talking to How about second best coach Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick could make the arch Chucks Fairbanks too. That's why

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Speaker 1: I shut out Deuce. I would love to see you

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Speaker 1: push back on Paul once in a while. Please fight him.

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Speaker 1: You've probably heard of Stockholm syndrome. Yes, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfilled, fueled by Duncan. I'm gonna do my best friend,

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Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back to JULYTT. What is it? You know?

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of meetings and stuff not. Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Fred will be here in a little while. He's just, uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing, but he's he's late Boston.

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Speaker 1: Things he's tardy. He is tardy, but I'm Eric Scollovino.

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo might do so, Matt Morrell behind the glass producing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it is a Thursday here at Toilette Stadium, an offseason thursday,

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Speaker 1: a college hoops Thursday in March. So we got a

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Speaker 1: little distractions going on on our screens, but not for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you annoyed it. What is the sport with the

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Speaker 1: bucket in the balls and the things? Uh, but there's

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Speaker 1: some NFL news going on. Not a lot of Patriots

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Speaker 1: directly related, not yet, but it's kind Yeah. You think

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Speaker 1: you think the storm's coming, it's always coming. Yeah, get ready,

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Speaker 1: got ready. I feel like it's uh comput trading. As

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Speaker 1: we were talking upstairs, it's um the tampering period Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just silly. It's supposed to open Wednesday, but

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Speaker 1: you basically just moved to open up to Monday. So

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Speaker 1: I assume there'll be some some some stuff going down,

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Speaker 1: you know. So do you think it starts now? It

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Speaker 1: might tampering period, right, it always right, the tampering period

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Speaker 1: gets the real tamper. Like the first day of the

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Speaker 1: tampering period, all the news comes out. So obviously they've

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Speaker 1: been tampering before the tampering period. I think we're probably

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Speaker 1: tampering an Indian from what I was hearing it in

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Speaker 1: that's the legal tampering period. Right. Oh yeah, you're still

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Speaker 1: you're still running that I'm gonna work? Are any still

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Speaker 1: working that? Are you? But yeah, I mean around the league.

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Speaker 1: The big news from yesterday, I guess was Carson Wentz. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: another year, another command, another another team. Were you hearing

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Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about Carson Wentz. No, but wasn't wasn't that,

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Speaker 1: PAULI wasn't that last week when we were when Fred

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich was basically telling you what you wanted to

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Speaker 1: know about Carson Wentz. No u B no, no phony endorsement. Nope. Right,

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Speaker 1: there was no like, oh yeah, he's our guy, We're coup.

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Speaker 1: reports that had already been out there about wentz being

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Speaker 1: I get it. Okay, I'm like adult toothache when there

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Speaker 1: are little things that I believe in that other people don't. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the map for what is it you

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Speaker 1: called the salary cat? The salary all right, right right?

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Speaker 1: The salary cap? You know, you guys know you know

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Speaker 1: I'm cap is crap. I'm sort of on an island

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Speaker 1: on it. So this is now. This was an untradeable contract, okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you talk about that stuff.

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Speaker 1: in a way, I I credit them for knowing not

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Speaker 1: not a great year in the draft for quarterbacks. There's

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Speaker 1: big news daddy, what's going on in that bus twenty

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Speaker 1: five years ago? Like you found that glory? Uh? Really

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Speaker 1: goes to Vegas, Bill can I come back? And though

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Speaker 1: whole Uh well, why would you take that job? You know,

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Speaker 1: that divis I'm not a big yeah like like no,

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Speaker 1: those things now Russell Wilson's going to Denver. In additional, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Russell Wilson could tear his ACL

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Speaker 1: in week one and now everything changes back, you know.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I agree with Paul. You can you go

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Speaker 1: Und Web Radio and Patriot dot Com is the email address. Uh,

422
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Speaker 1: let's open it up. We'll see what that's on, what's

423
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: on everyone's mind, and I'm sure they'll take us down

424
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Speaker 1: different roads. Todd's in North Carolina? What's up, Todd? Hey, there, guys,

425
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: I kind of busted due deuces balls for his article

426
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: on the free agents, saying like, most of these guys

427
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: are old and slow. And then I thought about it

428
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: when I said, well, wait a minute, what what is

429
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Speaker 1: the criteria for looking at what you want? Are you

430
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: is like, are we willing to plug in some old

431
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: guys just to get leadership or some knowledge or you know,

432
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know what? What do? What do

433
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Speaker 1: you do for basing your free agency on your approach

434
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Speaker 1: to it? What depends what you're looking for? Yeah? I

435
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: think there's well I think if you you know I'm

436
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: asking you what you're looking for me? Yeah, I think

437
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: what I would like is a quality D lineman. Okay,

438
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: then I would say that age is really not a

439
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: huge factor there. If you want like a defensive tackle

440
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 1: to come in, like I think do said you had

441
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks, right, Yeah, like I don't know his

442
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: age wouldn't scare me? Yeah? Like I just needed to fit.

443
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: Now if I need like a wide receiver or run yeah,

444
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, an athlete that I need to inject some

445
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, athleticism, a linebacker. I don't want a thirty

446
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: three year old. I don't want Bobby Wagner. Bobby Wagner

447
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: is a tremendous player. Yeah. As soon as him available,

448
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, he's a tremendous I love. That's

449
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: the kind of linebacker the Patriots I've been clamoring for.

450
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: But I don't want a thirty three year old one, right,

451
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: I want a twenty three year old one. Yeah. I

452
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: was just basing my some of my thought processes. Our

453
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: veteran d lineman this last year just didn't seem to correct.

454
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a talent thing, yeah, that they just

455
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: didn't seem to step it up. Yeah, they didn't get

456
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: the right one to that. Yeah, right, Okay. I mean

457
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Speaker 1: I think it's a balancing act. And I mean I

458
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: think building a team, you don't want to get too young.

459
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: You want to still have some veteran presence. But uh

460
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: but excuse me, did you hear that? You know? I

461
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: also don't think you can just turn it all over

462
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: to We haven't even eaten yet, Fred. What are they doing? Matt?

463
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: Matt's going to take care of business down? Why does

464
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: this marine Muss ties a bandana first? For some reason?

465
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: Like what is Rambo? Like? What is Matt? Look out?

466
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Speaker 1: But I am coming to get you. Yeah, I thought

467
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Speaker 1: I would just say, though, I think generally, you know,

468
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: Paul and I are the same page. Are just like

469
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: this team has to get younger. They gotta get younger.

470
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and so that guy's dead now, everybody so

471
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: covering blood neutralized the word. That was fastest I've ever

472
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Speaker 1: seen you dispose of my body. That was impressive. Good. Oh,

473
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Speaker 1: that's good. I don't have to bear witness being on

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Speaker 1: the phone. Right. No, I don't know what. I didn't

475
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Speaker 1: see anything. Thanks Todd, appreciate it. Uh, let's go to

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Speaker 1: Aaron in Connecticut. What's that baron? Hey, how you guys

477
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Speaker 1: doing today? Karen? Um? I was just calling asked about

478
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Speaker 1: um about the Mark Cooper? How you guys feel about it?

479
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: I think the answer off the air, I heard you

480
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Speaker 1: heard what? Oh I'm sorry, I thought I heard him

481
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Speaker 1: say that he wasn't really too interested in the Mark

482
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Speaker 1: Cooper or you didn't think it would happen for what reason?

483
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Speaker 1: Is it the money or the money? What is the reason?

484
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: That's oh money yep? Yeah, age for me, I would

485
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Speaker 1: take him, well age because you wouldn't pay that much

486
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Speaker 1: for a guy of that age? Or yeah, well I

487
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: think that I would. I told you I'm just looking again.

488
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking to find guys. Now. I think Cooper is

489
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: a terrific player. I think he's had a good career.

490
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Speaker 1: I think that he is What is he like, twenty eight,

491
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty seven? Um, So he's not off the

492
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Speaker 1: board for me. Like, he's not thirty three. He's not

493
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Speaker 1: one of these thirty somethings that I'm not interested in. Right,

494
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: He's still young enough and productive enough that I would

495
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: absolutely be interested in him. I would rather a guy

496
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Speaker 1: that I can you know, if they could sign him

497
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Speaker 1: to a five year deal and I can have him

498
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Speaker 1: work with Mac Jones for the next three years, I'm in. Okay,

499
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Speaker 1: I'm in. So you're not in to rent the solutions

500
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Speaker 1: when it comes to offense, in specially offense, Yeah that's

501
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: what Yeah, okay, So I want to find some guys

502
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: that can make Mac better going forward, not not for

503
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Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, you want to want them to if

504
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: they if they want to sign Cooper, I want them

505
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: to go in and sign Cooper, not like, well, we'll

506
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: give you a one year prove it deal. He doesn't

507
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: need to prove anything, right, Yeah, he's gonna be twenty

508
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: eight in June. Okay, so twenty seven. Yeah, there you go,

509
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Spees and friends. Now, what's going on, guys? How you doing? Okay?

510
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: All right? All right? Um, you know, even if the

511
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: guys is betting on his own team, uh, not even

512
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: betting on the up the opponent. I mean, there's gonna

513
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: come a game where he doesn't better than own team. Right,

514
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: you play less hard, right. Silence speaks more than words sometimes. Yeah,

515
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous to try and justify it. I'm glad you

516
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: guys stood up at the good point of view. There

517
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: a question I said. The guy had a draft related

518
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Speaker 1: question that a Curtains. I was thinking about the Indie

519
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: game this past season, where you know, coming into it,

520
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: feeling really desperate for the Patriots to win, like probably

521
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: because it's so insecure about the winning street, like you're thinking,

522
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: why not us? But at the same time thing this

523
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: team probably isn't as good as good as a record,

524
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: which they weren't, and so I kind of got a

525
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: feeling like the similar feeling coming into the draft where

526
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: Bill has recently been stringing some stuff together, but the

527
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: broader context is bad drafting for the last five years

528
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: or ken. When you're talking about wide receivers, So I

529
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: have some prepidation. I kind of feel like it could

530
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: unravel if it's like the broader the recent history, And

531
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your guys thoughts, like gun

532
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Speaker 1: to the head. What do you think is more likely

533
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Speaker 1: that Bill continues to string it together with the recent

534
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: streak drafting, or if he regretsss to what's happened in

535
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: the past five or so a year. Yeah, it's I

536
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: mean a good question. Yeah, I mean it's and it's

537
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: also mentioned in that you know, it's the staff has

538
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: been evolving too, so you know those those the scouting

539
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: department has changed a little bit um. But I think

540
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: the bottom line is that they just they can't he

541
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: can't be afraid to draft a wide receiver based on

542
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: if you love a guy in the first round and

543
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: he you know, it's a similar size of nikkil Harry,

544
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: then I think he got to take them. But I mean,

545
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the truth, and and that's how they

546
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: get out of this. And everybody's gonna go crazy over

547
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: free agency in the next week. It's just I don't

548
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: think that the Patriots are gonna if they're to be

549
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: a contender in the next year, two years, three years.

550
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be made in this

551
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, particular free agent class in the next couple

552
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: of weeks. I think it's he's got a string together,

553
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: like like sp said, the draft, you know, and and

554
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: fill those holes. And there's just so many questions right

555
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: now on defense about the personnel, and on offense about

556
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the coaching, and how does it come together and how

557
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: do they take the next step. Well, you wonder that,

558
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, you could take chances when you had Tom Brady.

559
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if they realize that and say, Okay, we

560
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: got to get more mainstream with our picks. That's the

561
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: thing I found interesting about the people that Deuce was

562
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Speaker 1: listening to an indie UM talking to you. I think

563
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: it was I think Albert Breer was the one that

564
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: used the phrase that talking to some personnel people, he

565
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: felt like the Patriots was sort of still acting like

566
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: they still had Tom Brady, and it's not I think

567
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: some people would misunderstand. I think the meaning, or at

568
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: least the way I took the meaning of that it

569
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: was kind of what you just said, Fred, not like,

570
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: well they think did the class of the AFC that

571
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: they're super Bowl contenders. No, they're sort of like telling J. C. Jackson,

572
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: you go out and see what's on the market, and

573
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: then if the market craters, you can come back and

574
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: come back. You come back, you know, like like we

575
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: got like tom Brady's going to draw him back, you know,

576
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: or you know some resent Amari Cooper is going to

577
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: sign a one year deal for short money so we

578
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: could catch a million passes and then go and cash

579
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: in like tom Brady's gonna do that. Like, yeah, that's

580
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Speaker 1: what I the way Fred explained that is the way

581
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Speaker 1: I looked at that comment from Breer. But is that

582
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Speaker 1: a is that a tom Brady thing? Or is that

583
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots just being cheap ass like they usually are? Well, well,

584
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean I would you know, it allows them to

585
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: save money, correct, So like this is the age old problem,

586
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: This is the age old conundrum with the Patriots and

587
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: their fans and their beliefs. Did they succeed because because

588
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: of the economic beliefs or did they succeed because they

589
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: had the greatest player who's ever played the sport, allowing

590
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: them to be a little bit uh you know, disappoint

591
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: economic rug Yeah, yeah, you know, like where's the line

592
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: because I mean, I think the line and right and

593
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, and Tom Brady didn't step in the league

594
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: and was you know, I think twenty years that they

595
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: did it was I mean notable. It was more than

596
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: just tom Brady centering in and just kicking everybody's ask

597
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: for twenty years. There was you know a little bit

598
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: of a curve there. Well, I mean they you know,

599
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: those early teams they um, you know, I don't think

600
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: it was all tom Brady then, and I mean I

601
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: probably would agree with it, probably starting about two thousand

602
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: and seven. And at that point he was, you know,

603
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: a master of everything that he was doing. But that's when.

604
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: But but that's when the rosters went that Like in

605
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, no one would say that they

606
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: don't have a championship roster. No. Yeah, but you know,

607
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: like the two thousand and sixteen that he dragged to

608
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: within thirty seconds of the super Bowl, that roster wasn't

609
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl worthy. Oh it's not two eleven. Yeah. But

610
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: but it's the interesting point now where you're you're having

611
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: to choose and do you continue to manage your finances

612
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: like that? And what they tell you is that we

613
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: need to have one to fifty three. We need to

614
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: spread it out. We can't and that's you know, how

615
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: it was sold to us UM exactly. But does that

616
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: can that work now if you don't have at least

617
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: one alpha dog at the time. I think that's what

618
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: when Fred, when you said it like that, that's what

619
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: it reminded me of, Just that comment that I heard

620
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Albert Brier say last week. I think on on Zoe

621
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: and Beatle, Yeah, they have to adjust, they're thinking because

622
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: they don't have that greatest player who ever played that game.

623
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Speaker 1: But but at the same time, I mean, I think,

624
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, the teams can be conservative, right, like, I

625
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: mean that can financially like you know, like that. But

626
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: but but it gets back to what we were just

627
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: taught about. You must draft. Well, yeah, that's the consistently.

628
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would tell you the way to

629
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: do it in the NFL and be a consistent winner

630
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: is to spend wildly every year in free agency, right.

631
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would would advocate for that. Yeah,

632
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: but it's it's about being art and when you're gonna

633
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: drop the big bucks like Stefan Gilmore. I think that

634
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: worked out, you know, And that was one where I

635
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: was blown away. I didn't think that they valued cornerbacks

636
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: like that. I didn't think in any situation that they

637
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: were jumping in that market. And they went right into it,

638
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it worked out, it really did, and

639
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: so in that regard it it's good. But I also think, like,

640
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, you look at how they spread the money

641
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: around last year, and we've talked about it a little bit,

642
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: like could they have maybe taken two of those guys

643
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: and translated that into one like could you take the

644
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Aggalore Godshaw money and make that into somebody like me? No,

645
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: but they hadn't picked the ones that you don't think.

646
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I love it, but I love it. But who who

647
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: would you like? Last night year? Who would you have

648
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: done it? Now? I don't think that. I think they

649
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: would have. They had the money and no one else did,

650
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: so they would have done that if there was somebody

651
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that much better than Hunter Henry and John O. Smith

652
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: for example, and you know, if if if they spent

653
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: through the notes for those guys, right, No, but if

654
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: Kelsey was available, I think they would have combined that

655
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: and gotten Kelsey instead of those too. You know what

656
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean? I don't I mean I don't. I do. Oh,

657
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: I think if they got Kelsey, Yeah, I think they

658
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: don't believe in that contract. They had the money, they

659
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: don't believe in that contract. I don't think they would

660
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: do it. I don't think they would have made the

661
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson trade because of the contract, not because of like,

662
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: oh we think mac Jones is feeling incomparable. I think

663
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They don't. They're not interested in giving that

664
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: guy the forty million dollar deal. Yeah. It's also I

665
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: think reflected in the extensions that they've given out and

666
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: the guys that they signaled that they want to keep,

667
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: which is not really anybody right now. I mean, who

668
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: on this team right now is in their second and

669
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: like it's nobody. It's Jonathan Jones and it's Shack Mason.

670
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that that got the got the

671
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: extension that they could play ball with. But you know,

672
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: now we're talking about those guys as well, they're taking

673
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: a big chunk and they're not really those guys anymore.

674
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: They're not you know, Jonathan Jones is not you know,

675
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: an outside number one corneries great players, and that was

676
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: and that was a big extension. Yeah, see, those are

677
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: the extent. This is why I all he's fight back.

678
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: And this is not because you use the word earlier

679
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: of the cheap moniker. I don't think they're cheap. They

680
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: think something different financially than a lot of other teams do.

681
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: I think they want to give what. I think that

682
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: they're more than willing to give average players like money

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't think that you would need to give. Yeah,

684
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Jones is an example of that. He's a

685
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: good slot guy. I don't think he's like the best

686
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: slot guy. I don't think he's a difference making player.

687
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you look up in his

688
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: cap number is what pull it up for you? Nine

689
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: million Brown there Ballpark, you know, like, I think most

690
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: people will look at that and say, is Jonathan Jones

691
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: worth like that? Like? So, I don't think they're cheap.

692
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: I think they think more of you know, the special

693
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: teams veterans than a lot of other teams do. And

694
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, we have to invest cap dollars in you know,

695
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: a couple of million here for Slater or couple of

696
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: million there for Bethels. And that's where I mean a

697
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: lot of other teams have those guys making like seven

698
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars and there's no difference, right

699
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: eighty eight million? Yeah? Eight million. I brought up, you know,

700
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: a few months ago. I think we kind of too

701
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: a little argument about Bill playing favorites with players when

702
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: we were talking about the guys, you know, the older

703
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: veterans that were playing over some of the younger guys.

704
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: This is another example of favorites where if he likes

705
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: a guy, doesn't matter what position he plays, I'm gonna

706
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: pay you. Did you do what I tell you? I

707
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: like you? You know what I mean? Like that? And

708
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I would wonder is even guys that I really really like,

709
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: like a guy like Devin mccordy, did it really acquire

710
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: the amount of money to hanger on you know in

711
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: year nine, ten eleven, whatever it is, and making that

712
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: kind of money to be a starter back there and

713
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: still a good player. But basically I want him as

714
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: a mentor and a leader, like did it cost you

715
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: that much? You know? Is that what everybody is paying

716
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: for leadership nowadays? Maybe it is, Maybe it's just the

717
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: sign of the times. Maybe it's the cost of doing business.

718
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: What I think that they would walk away from a

719
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: guy making yeah, like the quarterback making forty five million

720
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: dollars a year. I don't think they would want that. William,

721
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: some fellam, what's up? Will them brollos? What's going on? Hey? Hey, Willie?

722
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: How y'all doing? Uh? Just uh, touch on a juicel Jackson.

723
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: That's it, And I'm not too well. First of all,

724
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: I just want to give y'all praise man, y'all being

725
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: too a pandemic when the hatch came out and when

726
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: y'all have held it down. But for us, well, I'm

727
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want to speak for anybody, but I

728
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: would say y'all do an excellent John just sometimes as

729
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: y'all as working as hard as y'all do. Sometimes y'all

730
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: just need to hear that you appreciate this guy's no problem,

731
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: no problem them. So the Rotney uh was Rodney Anderson? No, Robbie,

732
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: Robbie and Robbie. Yeah, Robbie, And I'm sorry, No, Yeah,

733
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I don't think he's I don't

734
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: think he's worth pursuing. I agree, right, let me say

735
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: it again, nice and long with it. No, See, that's

736
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: what we'll go back to A Marie Cooper. They would

737
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: rather have Robbie Anderson. Yes, Now, like I'm gonna push

738
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: back here on everybody. What what what does everybody have

739
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: against Robbie Anderson? He's never made an important catch in

740
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: his career like against done well when oh I remember game?

741
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Don't make me go to my phone, Deuce, you have

742
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: a computer there. He's a thoroughly average player. Who yeah,

743
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: is He's like a David Gibbons type, isn't he? Yeah?

744
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I have no interest in David Gibbons right now, okay,

745
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: all right, right now? They need a number one receiver.

746
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: David Gibbins isn't there, And I don't think Robbie Anderson

747
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: is either. No, no, But that's why I'm not interested.

748
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get number one money, of course he is.

749
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: You think that's what he makes? Why do you think

750
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: he's on the block? Okay, all right, I've never really

751
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: cared for him. Can you give me his game by

752
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: game against the Patriots? Because I seem to remember like

753
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: one catch for eight yard kind of games against I

754
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: seem to remember him being a pain in the ass

755
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: when he was with the Jets. Yeah, maybe a few times.

756
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: But we're about to find out and I come as

757
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: always this narrative. Let me say, I think I hear

758
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: from Patris and filter you gentlemen and a lot of others. Well,

759
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: Matt needs a receiver. And I'm saying to myself, Okay,

760
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: y'all expecting him to be good in his second year.

761
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: A receiver ain't gonna just get it. I think, what's

762
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: just just looking at what Russell Wilson gonna have, man,

763
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: I think Bill better Dan, Well, get this man some

764
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: real receivers and stop playing like I don't know how

765
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: that's gonna be done though with the camp and you

766
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: only got a certain amount of pig, you know, And

767
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: I feel all these holes and when I am it's

768
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: just like Mike said, it's like you got to hit

769
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: on this draft, you know what I mean. At least

770
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: five picks should be ready to go. I don't know

771
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: five is a little tough, but yeah, three, let's go

772
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: for three. Yeah, okay, I can go. I'd love to

773
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: get a Day two and a Day three receiver this year.

774
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I've wanted a Day two receiver the last two years.

775
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's just so many guys that

776
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: that can help, and I just you got Kendrick Bourne

777
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: is the only one under contract for the next year.

778
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: You got to do something there this year to build

779
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: some continuity there. And maybe maybe it's Jakobe Myers. But yeah,

780
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: all right, my last topic. Yeah, I'm out your way.

781
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: This is my last topic. Um, and I just want

782
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: to hear from each and every one of y'all. Okay,

783
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: you say that, Mike, So let me ask you, Paul

784
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: fred Eric, Um, who would you Who would y'all want

785
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: to two receivers? I mean, right, is in the second round,

786
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: that's fine, But I just want to hear who would

787
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: y'all want the Okay, in the draft? Yeah, if you

788
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: played at Alabama or Ohio State, Right, you're one of them. Listen,

789
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: meet you or Williams. I'll take either one. And you know,

790
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: but maybe not with twenty one. You know, I continue

791
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: to say, Garrett Wilson, second round them Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

792
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: if they drop, I grab them. Yeah, you know, I

793
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: don't know which guys I want to receive in the

794
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: second round. One Dale one, Dale Robinson is supposed to go.

795
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna go in the range because he ran slow,

796
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: so he's gonna fall from Utah. Devin Lloyd Lloyd. Yeah.

797
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a popular one too. But

798
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a um see again, I I haven't,

799
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I haven't do really really hard into him, but you know,

800
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: my initial impression with him is like a four to three,

801
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, four low for three guy who just runs

802
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: down the field really fast and burns people. And that's

803
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: like that, and that's not really what I want. I

804
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: want a guy that can do a bunch of things.

805
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: And I mean, like I said, I love I love

806
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson Um, you know, I, like I said, a

807
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: little less higher on a lave Um, still love him.

808
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: But I just I think that, you know, this is

809
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: the league now, you need dynamic weapons. I think every

810
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: year I would, you know, consider drafting a quarterback, and

811
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: every year I think you should draft a wide receiver.

812
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's such an important position. And I think

813
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys that, you know, in the

814
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: in the day two you can find a guy who's

815
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: got some wheels, and in you know, the later rounds,

816
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: maybe you find one of those little slot guys that

817
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: that everybody loves and you know, fits that kind of

818
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: Wes Welker Uh, Julian Edelman kind of need that everybody has,

819
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: even it's just a punt return. I mean, Gunner is

820
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: kind of that guy. So um, but I think they're

821
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: just options everywhere for for what you want. And I

822
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't really complain about any other idiot. Thanks William. So

823
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear about thanks, Oh, please do

824
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: because I have the prolific career. There was one reasonably

825
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: good game. There was one reasonably the game where he

826
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: was targeted twelve times and had four catches for seventy

827
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: six yards. Is the eight here we go, two for

828
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: thirty four, none for none, one for two. These are

829
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: catches catches for yards three eleven, two for twenty two,

830
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: three for twenty four, three for eleven, one for ten,

831
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: and one for two. He is o and nine career

832
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. He's had Maybe I'm thinking of Wayne

833
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: Krabet seventeen career catches for one hundred and eighty one

834
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: yards and no touchdowns. And he said Belichick was sick,

835
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: sick out of having a game plan. I think he

836
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job. Game plan set him down well,

837
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: Robbie said. When I think when they're playing the Panthers,

838
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: they Robbie Anderson said, oh, you know, I had they

839
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: pursued me a little bit, and Belichick had told me

840
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: that he was sick of having a game plan for me. Well,

841
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: he did pretty good job job. I think the game

842
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: plan consisted of Stephie, you come out cover him a right? Right? Right?

843
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: What's his career numbers? Not just but like you know,

844
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: what's he do? He had one good year? Yeah, one

845
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: good his first year with Carolina he had a thousand yards? Yeah.

846
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Do you have his career stats in front of yeah?

847
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: I got um so I just do catch his yards touchdown?

848
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: So rookie year twenty sixteen with the Jets so forty two, five,

849
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: eighty seven, sixty three nine, forty one, fifty seven, fifty two,

850
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: fifty two, seven, seventy nine. I mean he's it's Kendrick

851
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Bourne's Yeah, exactly what did I say? We have to

852
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: be so? But why I already have I know? But

853
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: why do you think he's gonna get number one receiver

854
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: money based on that? I don't know. He's under a

855
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: contract for number one receiver money that he signed in

856
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: Carolina extended him, didn't he is that he signed initially

857
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: and then he signed next mention as well, I believe so,

858
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I think you don't have

859
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: to deal with the signing bonus. So it's just based

860
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: out of you. So it's probably not out, you know,

861
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: outrageous at this point. But he like that's what he's

862
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be, is a number one receiver. And okay,

863
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: I think we have three of him. Yeah, he's faster

864
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: than the guy. I don't think he's a number one receiver,

865
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: but he's not. I think he'd be it up. I

866
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: think he'd automatically be probably our number two. Yeah, I don't.

867
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: I think he's the same as the three guys you have. Okay,

868
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: pretty much wildly inconsistent. Try to get another guy around

869
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: the league that's been around and try to make him

870
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: the number one. Like draft guys, develop them, bring them

871
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: in here, let them learn. It's only that's only, it's

872
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: only you don't have to you can still draft a

873
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: receiver if you bring him in. He's only under contract

874
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: for ten million damage, it's not it's not outrageous money

875
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: eight point eight in twenty twenty three, So he is

876
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: due a two million dollars signing bonus. I mean, I'm

877
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: sorry roster bonus. So I guess that's twelve million for

878
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: twenty two Yeah, with a potential out there. So, I mean,

879
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into all the particulars. I leave that

880
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: to Miguel Um. So it's not an outrageously expensive contract.

881
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: But he's not that player. He's not worth twelve million

882
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: dollars to me. Okay, Eldred's in North Carolina? Are Cooper? Absolutely,

883
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: I would take him for that. What's up, Eldred, I'm

884
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: not gonna get him. Hey, take it good, yo. You

885
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: know what. I love y'all so much, man, because you

886
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: know what y'all can repeat me five years later. I mean, no,

887
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: answered you wrong. Mccordy is good, good players. He wasn't

888
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: worse than to me. Like I told y'all once before.

889
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: They me five kids, five players. They worked him to me,

890
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, and I get scanty the chief. We went

891
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl with Brady. He did five good plays

892
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: in over them years. But I'm glad I'm listening to you,

893
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: and glad y'all listen to me right now. Thanks for

894
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: helping us, but so and prayer too. Ain't no way

895
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: in the world I'm gonna take a sucking day receiver,

896
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, lovel William. I don't know about me, Keith,

897
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: Wilson or Dodson. They're going in day one and when

898
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: like I said, most of those three of those guys

899
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: are down there about twenty one, twenty two or twenty eight,

900
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking one of those proven commodity. I'm taking on

901
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: the sucking day that might be I'm not gonna do that,

902
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: but you know, but Mac does need to be that.

903
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: But what I'm worried about who's gonna be whos gonna

904
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: run the offense? That's what's getting the devil out of me, right,

905
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: Who's gonna run the offense? Who's gonna run offense? Understand

906
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: I knew you got coaches, but you got the offense

907
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: the court day, m Daniel don't. That's what's worry me about, Matt,

908
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, because I like, you know what they're saying,

909
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: when you have two head coaches, you really have none.

910
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: That's right. Two head coaches are assistant coaches, right, and

911
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: neither one was really good at their job. But when

912
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: being the head coach, so I was just a details

913
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: but h But like I said, I hope what I

914
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: would like to do? What would happen if we had

915
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: to I don't think we got the cap space. I

916
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: would take a fly on. I would give uh j

917
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. I stuck around peak for Gallup because he's

918
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: on he's on the Uh. He's the agent right now.

919
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: He's a free agent. So you can't so you can't

920
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: trade for So we're drafting run in the first, we're

921
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: trading our second. Okay, then that came that throw that

922
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: out there. Now, I'll go ahead and get like I said,

923
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: those three guys in the first round, because the proof

924
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: come out of because look at Chase and look at Borrow, Uh,

925
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: look at Smith and it hurts. And did you look

926
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: at Watterle and and um and what what? What did

927
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: you what did you see with Chasing Hurts? Huh Smith?

928
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean chasing Uh, I mean not Chase Smith and

929
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Smith and hurt. Yeah, that you know. So, so I

930
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: think either you get somebody's familiar with whatever I will

931
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: give Matt Williams or meeting you know, and go from there.

932
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: Now non conforming, well, Metchi probably a day two guy.

933
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm not conformed. I'm all in on Metchi. I would

934
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: I would welcome that one, but I would take him

935
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: in the first one. I would take him in round

936
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: the injuries. The injuries, Yeah, I'm more willing to guys.

937
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: He's not going to drop to round two. He says, Yeah,

938
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I think everybody has him in round two. I mean,

939
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: I don't know some people. I'm in three. Will Whenever

940
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: I talk about draft and where guys are going, I'm

941
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: going strictly based on what I read, not what I know.

942
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bug you, Eldre. But I didn't

943
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: like Jamison Williams. I just he didn't like his personality

944
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: and kind of just his demeanor. It just did not Portman.

945
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: Mike is No, there was a precedent with Mike not

946
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: liking talent. Yeah, that's true, because we're not all going

947
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: to work that exactly. He got. He didn't like the

948
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: cut of his jib. He got six. You know guys

949
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: that that you could go in the first one. They're

950
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: not all going to be superstars, No they're not. Some

951
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: of these guys are. We're pumping their tires right now

952
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna If this guy was healthy, he'd be

953
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: going in the top ten. Sure. Sure, you know he's

954
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: more gifted. I was like Jamison Jamison Williams, James Jameson.

955
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: He's going he's going twenty three. Yeah, but I said

956
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: if he was healthy, he would not be around and

957
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: beyond ten. He's dynamic. He's the fastest. I mean yeah,

958
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: trust me, I paid next to him. I know, I

959
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: know him pretty well. Why he's one of my bathroom buddies. Indian.

960
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: He's like Joe Flacco by Mitcam. You only run straight,

961
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: but like I think you could right route three. I

962
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: told y'all that I heard they were going to try

963
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: to trade for Metcalf. I gotta be honest with you, Eldred.

964
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: The longer Metcalf is in the league, the lesson pressed

965
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: I am with him. I'll be honest with him. Yeah,

966
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I think ruf Wilson. They had something to do with

967
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: that later on, but in the beginning and that won.

968
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: You know what. Yeah yeah, but if we had Mac

969
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: thrown it to him, we wouldn't have any anything to work.

970
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: Y'all have a good man, all right? Yeah. That that's

971
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: why I love him, because you could go back and forth.

972
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: L happened. He knows that we're just kidding. Just sports.

973
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: It's sports. M give me my sports. That was another one.

974
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: As soon as Wilson was traded. Everyone just assumed Seattle's

975
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: just gonna like Tyler Lockett's coming, Yeah, and DJ everybody,

976
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what Seattle's doing. Okay, so maybe

977
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: Seattle is actually gonna blow it up. Yeah, but they're

978
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna strip away every valuable piece that they have and

979
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: just completely started over. But to me, if I was

980
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to do a complete and total rebuild, I would

981
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: take the talented players that I have on good contracts

982
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: and I would try to keep them, yeah, for at

983
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: least through their contract. Everybody is writing about Tyler Lockett,

984
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: who would make perfect sense in the slot and be

985
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: able to do this, this and this, and he's really affordable.

986
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: And I say to myself, then why does Seattle want

987
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of them right now? Maybe they will.

988
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just determined because you have to replace these people.

989
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: Maybe they're determined to get rid of all of their

990
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: good players like Miami did, which you know may or

991
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 1: may not have been legal a couple of years ago.

992
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: And maybe that's the whole impetus behind this. They want

993
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna get rid of Tyler. Tyler Lockett doesn't make

994
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He's a very affordable player who

995
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: is very productive. I love Tyler Lockett. I'll take him

996
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: in a blink, But I just don't really understand why

997
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: they're just going to hand him to the Patriots when

998
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: he's under an affordable contract. DK Metcalf is still on

999
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Like I heard our buddy Bighead talking

1000
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: about DK Metcalf, Patriots should make a run it. I'm like, oh,

1001
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: you know why he likes him now, But a lot

1002
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: of people like him. He's a really good player. I

1003
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: you know when I say I've been less impressed with him,

1004
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: I think his production has gone down a little bit.

1005
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I think he's been kind of a diva at times

1006
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: on the sideline when he's not getting his touches and whatnot.

1007
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: Typical receiver. So, but why is Seattle gonna take some

1008
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: of the guys that, like Bobby Wagner was making a

1009
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: lot of money. I get that. And he's old and

1010
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: he's old, and he's old. Yeah, like, you know, yeah,

1011
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: if Seattle ahead, I was just gonna say, luck, it's

1012
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: it's impressive his you know, just his stats. I mean

1013
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: he's pretty much gotten better every single layer, extremely productive,

1014
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: has been has has missed one game in seven Seasons player.

1015
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: I really like the way he plays, and I think

1016
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: he'd be a really good patriot the way he plays. Um.

1017
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: The other show, we were talking about the etymology of

1018
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: take a flyer. Yeah, and uh, you know, matta evidence

1019
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: about the flyer the American flyer sled. But that's not disputed,

1020
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: that's not worth Um. This is from David and he

1021
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: says the phrase is much older than the American flyer

1022
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: sleds with steal runners. I know you care about accuracy.

1023
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: So before there were stock exchanges, shares and companies were

1024
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: advertised by broadsheets handed out to wealthy people, who most

1025
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: often who often threw them away to fly in the wind.

1026
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: To take a flyer meant to invest in a speculative venture.

1027
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: A classic example is the East India Company Bubble, which

1028
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: bankrupted thousands and caused the British government to raise taxes,

1029
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: especially on its colonies, precipitating the American Revolution. Wow, okay,

1030
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: so I have questions. Hold that up there, don't I

1031
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: didn't get So he said, you know, take a flyer

1032
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: meant to take a risky and a speculative based on

1033
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: one of these broadsheets that you get. That's exactly what

1034
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: it means, like that's the meaning of the taking. I

1035
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: don't think there was ever any real question about what

1036
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: take a flyer means. No, but the broadsheet would have

1037
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: these speculative ventures written about invest in here, and so

1038
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of to take a flyer. I think, like,

1039
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: here's the information, information and just grab it. I think

1040
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: I think it's more along that line. No, but I

1041
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: mean the right, Oh, it absolutely is this. Maybe on

1042
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: your way to get the fight, you were on the

1043
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: you were on the sled and as you went by,

1044
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: you grabbed, grabbed the fly, right, so you're on. I

1045
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:20,000
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Speaker 1: Depends on what what the record, Yeah, what's the record

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Speaker 1: that note, is they're a favorite that you have, Is

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Speaker 1: there a moment where you look back and say, wow,

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Speaker 1: that was pretty awesome? Yeah, I love that. Uh the

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Speaker 1: third and fourteen in forty nine against Seattle Seahawks where

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Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor lit me up um. That was my favorite.

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of like a microcose him of like

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Speaker 1: my life career. You know, like going against the Legion

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Speaker 1: of Boom. We had no respect all week, all the

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Speaker 1: two weeks going into the game. This scheam team's gonna

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Speaker 1: blow us up. They're gonna no fly zone. They decapitates you.

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Speaker 1: And like, you know, to be able to go in there,

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Speaker 1: and I remember the first play of that game. I

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Speaker 1: went in there and tried to dig out the force

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Speaker 1: on on cam and I used to be I would

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Speaker 1: go in hard, and you know, I'm not like a

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Speaker 1: small I'm small, I'm short, but I'm not like a

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Speaker 1: I'm like a decent sized guys where you can go

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Speaker 1: in and hit these guys. Sometimes I went in and

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Speaker 1: hit that guy and like he didn't move. It was

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Speaker 1: like hitting a tree like rooted. And like he was

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Speaker 1: so polite. He goes, young Villa, don't hit me like that,

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Speaker 1: like or so, I don't remember, but it was a

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Speaker 1: very polite thing what he said to me. Like so

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: like after that, I knew that dude could hit. And

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Speaker 1: then for him to he lit me up on that

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Speaker 1: third and four team or you know, to make that catch. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know that that's kind of the football player I

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Speaker 1: always wanted to be, the guy goes over a little

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Speaker 1: takes the hit, Like I remember, that's what you do

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Speaker 1: when you throw the ball in the pool or or

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Speaker 1: you're throwing with your you know, your your your friends

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Speaker 1: or your buddies or your brother. You know, can you

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Speaker 1: make that catch over the middle? Can you take the hit?

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Speaker 1: So that was my favorite one. That's a little tease

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Speaker 1: of the latest Patch from the Past podcast, Uh Maddie

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Speaker 1: No Socks and Brian the executive director of the Hall

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Speaker 1: have to do to earn Brady's trust? I hear that's

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Speaker 1: an interesting answer. Also, what what was the pit of

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Speaker 1: pivotal moment for the twenty fourteen Super Bowl winning team?

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Speaker 1: And and um, you know, what is his favorite moment

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Speaker 1: in his NFL career? You might be surprised to hear

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Speaker 1: what he says. I'm looking forward to listen. Wow, I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like throwing the ball in

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Speaker 1: the pool, and you know, is your brother is where'd

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Speaker 1: you go swimming in prison, like Camp Chancellor comes and

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Speaker 1: low as you know, light switch. That's the SAME's throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball into the pool with your brothers. You didn't

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Speaker 1: have like fights in the pool, not like Camp Chancellor.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, but like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like guys getting into fistfight. I'm gonna But that's Pasts

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Speaker 1: So Julis is around, he was, he was in here. No,

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Speaker 1: oh he's remote. Always interesting. Yeah, so good stuff. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Matt for that little rejoin. That's what they call it

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Speaker 1: right in the biz. Rejoin. Correct, Yeah, what you're correct,

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Speaker 1: I'm correct. It's it's a rejoined dirty after twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: it's only sixteen. Take the two kids in the backseat

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Speaker 1: right now, what are you guys laughing? That's worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Stop touching each other. It's like

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of one of those phone calls

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Speaker 1: that we've watched. Interesting, we're having us on Tuesday or

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Speaker 1: Paul isn't like because he wasn't involved. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: be involved in the Edleman one should have been, No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. You should have been why. Well, if someone

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Speaker 1: asked me, yeah, I would have That's what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: now it comes out. But if I was as if

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Speaker 1: I was asked to do something, I wouldn't say no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing it covered his whole career. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not any more qualified to ask questions than Matt

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Speaker 1: is Matt. He probably knows you the best of all

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Speaker 1: those guys though, right, but he probably knows Matt has

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Speaker 1: great relationships with all of it whatever because they do

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Speaker 1: the TV stuff with What about Bemo? Yeah? That mean anybody? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean due saw Edelman in the locker room once

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Speaker 1: he has a better room once. Who's giving Paul gloves?

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Speaker 1: It was? It was not a convenient time for me yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I had to get home and uh witness the final

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Speaker 1: game of my son's high school junior basketball career. Tough lost.

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Speaker 1: Tough lost to eighty to seventy nine. They lost. That's

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Speaker 1: a good question, that's it. We should get the etymology

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Speaker 1: of that now too. He's a barn burner Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: so much activity, it's like a fire going on in

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Speaker 1: the barn. It probably was something that happened in a barn.

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Speaker 1: You just have barn storming games, remember those, And then

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Speaker 1: there was probably one of those games that ended up

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Speaker 1: in a fire barn. Probably, yeah, right, and find out

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Speaker 1: only we had a way to find out. Yemy in

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Speaker 1: Texas writes in at web Radio at Patriots dot Com.

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Speaker 1: He says, let's say Josh McDaniels really likes mac Jones

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Speaker 1: and he offers to trade Derek Carr for him. Would

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Speaker 1: you do that trade? And which team has to give

1382
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Speaker 1: up something extra? I think the Patriots. Mac Jones for

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Speaker 1: Derek Carry straight up, The Patriots would have to give

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Speaker 1: up something Actually, I think so, But I honestly don't

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Speaker 1: think that either team would be interested in that trade. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a new factor in Las Vegas, and it is

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, And like, what if he does love mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: You know, I know I understood the question, But be

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Speaker 1: a tough move for Josh. Second, I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: very well thought out hype article. Josh loves mac Jones

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Speaker 1: and he's going to get him if he can, Like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's a I mean, that's a plausible scenario, absolutely. But

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, then I think he's coming, and

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: he probably might, even though I think the Patriots, if

1395
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: you estacted apples to apples, the Patriots might give more.

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01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: But if Josh really wants them, then they kind of

1397
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Speaker 1: have them where they want them. They can ask what

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: they want. Yeah, I don't think would be like mac

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Speaker 1: Jones and two ones for Derek Carr or anything like that.

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: I just think they would have to throw something in. Yeah.

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: I agree with Paul though, I think that would be

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01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: kill Harry. Yeah. I don't think either team would want

1403
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: that though, especially with what's going on in that division

1404
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: out west, now, Like, are you really going to trust

1405
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: your fate to this guy going to his second year

1406
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: as opposed to a more veteran, established, uh you know,

1407
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: reliable leader in Carr. I mean, your better chance of

1408
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: winning would be with him. The part of the hypothetical

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Speaker 1: that does make it different is Josh obviously doesn't have

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Speaker 1: those concerns about Mac Jones. Yeah right under under this

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: under yeah right, So yeah, I mean I guess it

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Speaker 1: could happen. I just don't I don't think that I

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Speaker 1: don't think Bill would want to trade for a guy

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Speaker 1: who you'd have to then give a contract too, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's the deal. Brander Tony says, I've emailed

1416
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: the show a few times during the past two year

1417
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Speaker 1: years that this is a three to five year rebuild. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think at this point it's still a three to

1419
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: five year rebuild. The camere was wasted in terms of

1420
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Speaker 1: a rebuild, and the team is so bereft of young

1421
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,520
Speaker 1: talent in their prime or on the verge of breaking out,

1422
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Speaker 1: and so lacking in speed that it's going to take

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Speaker 1: that many years to become a serious contender and a

1424
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Speaker 1: stacked AFC. And that's assuming drafts like last year and

1425
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Speaker 1: a couple of free agents who are actual difference makers,

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01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: not jags or even competent players welcome to the middle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what it is, I mean, and I agree, But

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Speaker 1: that's that's where they're at. They've got to hit these

1429
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Speaker 1: draft picks. And I think it's interesting though, that point

1430
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Speaker 1: of like twenty twenty being a last year, because I

1431
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: think at the time I was seeing twenty twenty as

1432
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: more of a reset than it really was, because I

1433
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: thought you were establishing who can play and who can

1434
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: and we can then elevate those guys. And as we

1435
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: talked about last year, it didn't really happen. They went

1436
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Speaker 1: back to the well with some of the older guys.

1437
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: So you know, is it going to happen now? Yeah?

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: It seemed like they were conflicted the last two years,

1439
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: like do we want to rebuild or do we want

1440
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: to compete? Can we kind of go? Can we do

1441
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of both? And I don't think you

1442
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of both. I think you

1443
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: have to try to pick one or the other. Can't

1444
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: be a little pregnant, right, Josh and Turners falls Massachusetts

1445
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Speaker 1: rights in This is my first shot at who am

1446
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Speaker 1: I gamed? Oh? And what better way to start than

1447
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Speaker 1: with some of my favorite players. Though they are not

1448
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Speaker 1: the most high profile guys necessarily, but these are Patriots.

1449
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Speaker 1: Bring it on. First, one, ready, we know the rules.

1450
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Speaker 1: You get one guest, you're wrong, you're out right. First,

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Speaker 1: I'm currently an analyst for the Big ten Network. Second,

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01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: I was a key contributor to LT's famous and maybe

1453
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: that comes from their coach quote, this is a former Patriot. Yeah, okay. Third,

1454
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Speaker 1: and everyone might get it now. I played my college

1455
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: ball at Purdue Rob Nikovich, Rosie, it all makes sense

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Speaker 1: now he doesn't work for the Big ten network. Nikovich.

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Speaker 1: That is next one for last year, I was inducted

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Speaker 1: into the Mississippi Community in Junior College Hall of Fame.

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: M Malcolm Butler. Nope, Um when I out? Yeah, huh yeah,

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: you're out. When drafted out of Houston, I was twenty

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: five years old, Sebastian woman. No, it's down to Paul.

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01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: I'll take all the time I need play. I won

1463
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: two rings with the Patriots and OH one and oh

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01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: three of Houston one and all three drafted out of

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: Houston twenty five. Give up the time Antoine Smith draft him. Now,

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: he didn't say that. He didn't say the Patriots said

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: he was drafted. He was drafted by the Bills. Yeah,

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: it is not really Yeah, I mean I think were

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01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: implied that it was Button Hotel Roosevel Covin wasn't drafted

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: by the Patriots. He didn't say that anyone I know.

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01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: But if he'd said he got drafted, he didn't. But

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01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: it didn't he That's that's a perfect point to illustrate

1473
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: my confusion. He didn't say he was drafted out of

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: Purdue to imply that the Patriots drafted Mary. He just

1475
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: said he played his college ball at Purdue and when

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: he got to dance on Smith, he was drafted. Are fine,

1477
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: I think it's fine. It's okay. Um, next one, ok.

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01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: I have a brief cameo in the movie Stuck on

1479
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: You next to another slightly more famous New England star.

1480
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: Was like, I can't know. I no, no, I've seen

1481
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: that movie incredibly, I know where the bigger star is.

1482
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: But second, despite Belichick's recommendations that I get the starting role,

1483
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:22,480
Speaker 1: Coach Parcels instead went with Terry Ray. Now I'm off

1484
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: remember that Terry teeth Like, I think, I think you

1485
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 1: everyone should get this. In the first one, yeah, pressure,

1486
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: my mother was a semi famous musician in Yes, Eric,

1487
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: very good, Eric Ing ding ding dinging, Yes, okay, well

1488
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: thanks for the game, Josh and Turners falls very good, excellent,

1489
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: you know good. You messed up, Paul, so he said,

1490
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: you know you didn't do it right, But I just said,

1491
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: excellent job. I literally just said the words excellent job.

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: A little excessive if I it was even one of

1493
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 1: the better ones, because they weren't easy. Yeah, yeah, required

1494
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: some thought and we split, yes, one one and one

1495
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: and one. No one got rashot from Baltimore, writing in

1496
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: I like versatility. You know you call something more you

1497
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: can write sometimes. I like that. I like that, he

1498
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: says with Russell Wilson going to the Broncos. In terms

1499
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: of the AFC hierarchy, where would you put the Patriots

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01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: as of now? M m, it's just the AFC all right,

1501
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: So it's just off the top of our heads without

1502
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: giving it a lot of fun. Who's better? Buffalo better

1503
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:40,879
Speaker 1: you think? Yes? Yes, okay, Cincinnati, yes, okay, Tennessee yes,

1504
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City, yes, all right. Now we'll go to second

1505
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: place teams. Miami no as of right now? Yes, no, no,

1506
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue top of your head. Were doing

1507
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: We lost to them twice? Ye okay, Baltimore, yes, no,

1508
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: he's tough. Indianapolis right now? No? But Denver yes, yes, okay. Um,

1509
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: no one else is talking about the Chargers, Uh, Cleveland no, No,

1510
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: No one in the South no. Um the Chargers. Yes, okay.

1511
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting you put the Charges ahead of them as

1512
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: a non playoff because I know I got the teams

1513
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: that have better talent than shut up. I shut up

1514
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: you so seventh according to that. Now, I would put

1515
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: them lower than that because I would have India ahead

1516
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: of them, and I would have Baltimore ahead of them.

1517
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore was eight and three in rolling and

1518
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: they just lost the entire team. Yeah, I think they had.

1519
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: They have more talent from which they'll never return. Maybe

1520
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: you're right, eight seven, eight nine, playoff cups. It's gonna

1521
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: be tough. Yeah, it is, and this is of course,

1522
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: there are so many unknowns, not only with the Patriots,

1523
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: with other teams too, so it'll change very much in

1524
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: the two weeks. And we all know Deuce hasn't more

1525
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: like ten because he has Miami as well. That's right.

1526
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: Anthony from Delaware tends to look at things in a

1527
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: negative way. Yeah, Anthony from Delaware, sorry for sending this

1528
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: email early, but working the graveyard shift. Won't be up

1529
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: for the live show. A few questions regarding Kaylee. Do

1530
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: you guys remember what your thoughts on Josh was when

1531
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: he first started calling plays. I was a casual football

1532
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: fan back then, and I don't really remember having an

1533
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: opinion either way. Yeah, I didn't know that much about him.

1534
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: I didn't really know anything. I mean, and I didn't

1535
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: really have any concerns we were looking at There's a

1536
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: huge reason I didn't have any concern already was here.

1537
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: You know, we were wondering where is John Carroll and

1538
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: what is that all? Well, he also didn't get just wondering,

1539
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady entering the prime of his career

1540
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: about it. I got a quarterback who's won three titles.

1541
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: I think he can he can share the us Paul

1542
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: that point, because you know, I remember what a grand

1543
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: exit it was for Romeo Cornell and Charlie Weiss at

1544
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: the same time. So it's and it wasn't didn't blink.

1545
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was a non story.

1546
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't a non story. There was no panic in

1547
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: the streets. Brad, would you agree it was Tom Brady? Yeah,

1548
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: and Belichick too. I mean at that point you were

1549
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: just they hadn't lost the playoff game. I mean, they

1550
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: were whatever it was. In addition to that, that OH

1551
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: four team, I think historically is one of the most

1552
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: underrated teams in terms of sheer talent. Yeah, I don't

1553
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: think it gets its due among the greatest teams ever.

1554
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: That team was so good and obviously you're coming off

1555
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: of that team, you're thinking, you're just gonna keep it rolling. Now,

1556
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: they had some adversity that hit. I think that was

1557
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: the year. Wasn't that the year that Bruski had a

1558
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: stroke coming back coming back from OH four? Right? It

1559
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: was the it was early. It was like, well he

1560
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: had a right. Yeah, so some thing's happened. Obviously that

1561
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: affected the talent level of the O five team, But

1562
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: they had just won three out of four. They had

1563
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: a young nucleus. It wasn't just all old players. And

1564
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: they had some old guys like McGinnis and Bruski and

1565
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: and those kinds of guys, but they still had plenty

1566
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: of guys like Seymour and Will Fork and guys that

1567
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: were still in their prime. Yeah. I think people thought

1568
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep this ball, and they did. I mean,

1569
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: they were still really good to know five, really good

1570
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: to know six, not as good as they had should

1571
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl one. Then they yeah, they

1572
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: should have the cops. And then they reloaded because they

1573
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: realized I didn't win because I didn't have enough playmakers

1574
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: on offense, and they went out and spent money got

1575
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: them and came thirty seconds away from going nineteen, And

1576
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: Anthony also says when is the next time we're supposed

1577
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: to hear from Bill and will he put out a

1578
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: statement before about the bflow thing so he can say

1579
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: his favorite line. Yeah, I already discussed that draft. Yeah no, uh,

1580
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: I would imagine the annual meeting at the end of

1581
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: this month. I also two more things we have not

1582
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: talked about that yet. Yeah, two more things from Anthony.

1583
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: Would you take high Tower back as a hand in

1584
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 1: the dirt linebacker if the money worked out for both sides,

1585
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: as a hand in the dirt line But does that

1586
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: even mean no? No, no, I thought like an edge guy. No, no,

1587
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: I think definitely not. I think he would be like

1588
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Brian Cox in a one He'd be like a thumper

1589
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: middle linebacker and and maybe comes off the field on

1590
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: on Thirday. If money was no factor, I would take

1591
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: him back as that. I would rather not. I would

1592
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: rather just get young. I would rather see what these

1593
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: guys could do. Absolutely, but I would take him back

1594
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: in a in a cheap role that he was willing

1595
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: to shill. And finally, when does the schedule come out?

1596
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Eric U? And may now that the new h that's

1597
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: the new annual tradition, not other anymore. After the he's

1598
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: supposed to get upset, he's supposed to get irritated. Well,

1599
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: he has changed. So I believe Eric was showing personal girl,

1600
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Is is it your

1601
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: diet that's changed you? No, just wait till you get older.

1602
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: You get older. Are you taking supplements? No? No, I

1603
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta go at that. Just wait till they

1604
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: trade down in April on the draft. Oh yeah, yeah,

1605
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: unto that personal girl, I don't know. I've never heard.

1606
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm like five ten, I've never heard you say I

1607
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: have to go on a diet before. Oh, I've said

1608
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: it many acknowledges he heard, just doesn't want to do.

1609
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I've acknowledged that I need to lose about thirty pounds

1610
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: a hundred times. Never at the start of the pandemic

1611
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: and I started running a little bit. Yeah yeah, you

1612
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: started body and I wanted to work out, and my

1613
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: mom called, so they went down. You should get that.

1614
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: You should get that tonal thing that's on TV. What's

1615
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: that now? You like that vibrating thing like that old

1616
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: I just worked out, I'm all right, and then I

1617
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: would love to be able to lose weight without doing

1618
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: anything and for all they had that contraption that you

1619
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: go in and just your head pops out and it's

1620
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: like it's it steems the fat off or something. It

1621
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: really seems seen that one I saw it and today

1622
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: for a qby advice guy, have you seen that? It's you.

1623
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: I think it's called QB cub I. I I think

1624
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: it's this like it's like a foot pedal kind of thing.

1625
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: So you oh, you said at your dad they had

1626
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: that for a while. Yeah, I've never seen that before though.

1627
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: But it's like you're working like you're but muscles in

1628
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: your legs. Yeah. When I got it, it's like walking desks.

1629
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: I see people walking deaths on walking desk that I

1630
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: would fall on my face. Remember when somebody had the

1631
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: idea to have the desk with the treadmill, and friend

1632
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna get that from my office. I

1633
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: actually gotta. I actually got approval for that. I never

1634
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 1: got it, trigger I never I never got I was like, no,

1635
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I'll become like I'll become a caged animal. People will

1636
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: be like walking by just just acting like an ass.

1637
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: They don't already do that, you know. I was like,

1638
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: let's go watch friend on his hamster over here. Yeah,

1639
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: I get in great shape, be a spectacle when you

1640
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: walking by, and like friends like face planting on the floor,

1641
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: like blood coming out of my head. Uh. We haven't

1642
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: heard from a while Wars and Camp Pendleton. Yeah rah,

1643
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: sorry a long time. Yeah. On that note, Uh, I

1644
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: did during the holiday season think that I should call

1645
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: in and offer you guys a lunch. And I looked

1646
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: at the calendar. It's been three months, so I would

1647
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: be happy to catch back up with Matt after Oh

1648
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: you don't have yeah you don't. You don't have to

1649
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: do that large pepperoni No, right after my diet. Yeah,

1650
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: I'll hold my breath for that one fall. Yeah, but um,

1651
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: good job. Uh, good question here for you guys. I

1652
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: don't know if you were talking about Romeo and Charlie

1653
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: much earlier than when I was just like hold but uh,

1654
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: that was something I wanted to talk about, just based

1655
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: off of Fred's point on Tuesday, which I do agree

1656
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: with him, and I uh, I guess my question is

1657
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: have you thought about how happy you might have been

1658
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: to get Romeo or Charlie back, say in nine or ten,

1659
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: even after unsuccessful stints. I think both of them were

1660
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: well under five hundred head coaches, and then went back

1661
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: to the coordinators elsewhere. Would you have liked to get

1662
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: either of those guys back, Well, me, oh, sure, both

1663
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: of them. I would have taken it back because I

1664
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: think they were both wildly successful as coordinators, unlike the

1665
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: guys that have come back this time. Okay, but what

1666
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: if they don't come back as coordinators? Out these guys

1667
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: aren't coming back as coordinators. I would welcome them back,

1668
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I don't think Matt Patricia was

1669
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator, so I'm not all that excited

1670
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: that he's back on the staff. I mean, it's pretty simple.

1671
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: This is my point about all of these discussions. And

1672
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: from one of pause shows, I will take, you know,

1673
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: a Felgar point that you know, you have to do

1674
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: the show every day. You can't just wait to see

1675
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: how things turn out. But we have really limited information.

1676
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing we do know is

1677
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: that these two teams, the Giants and the Lions, and

1678
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: actually I mean I actually include Mayo under this, all

1679
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: three of these coaches, Judge, Patricia and Mayo I mean

1680
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: candidates war head coaching jobs, and two of them won

1681
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: those jobs. So I find it interesting that, like we

1682
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 1: don't consider now, maybe those teams made awful mistakes obviously

1683
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: their performance, but they had what it took to get

1684
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: elevated to that level. And we all think, oh, we'd

1685
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: love to get b Flow back, love to get Jimmy

1686
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 1: Billy O'Brien back, And I just think it's it's a

1687
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: little bit of like we do. We have a very

1688
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: small slit in the information, and the first thing I

1689
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: think is to take the most negative spin on it. Yeah. Now,

1690
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: to me, it's very simple and I don't have to

1691
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 1: go on one of my soliloquies like I sometimes do.

1692
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: I think that Bill O'Brien was a really good assistant

1693
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: coach and he did a really good job as a

1694
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: head coach. I think Brian Flores was a really good

1695
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in eighteen and did a good job as

1696
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: a head coach. I don't think the same thing of

1697
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Joe Judge and Matt Patricia. I think they were spare

1698
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 1: parts on their staffs and they didn't have very good

1699
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: defenses when Patricia was involved with them, and he didn't

1700
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: do a good job when he was a head coach.

1701
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I think Bill O'Brien did a good job both as

1702
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator here and as the head coach at

1703
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: both Penn State and with the Houston Texans, So I

1704
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: would take him back. I would be more excited about

1705
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: having those guys back. Charlie Weis and Romeo Cornell wildly

1706
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: successful coordinators. But they weren't good at head coach. But

1707
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: they were good coordinators. That's what they have over the

1708
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: guys that are here now. Yeah, they were successful in

1709
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: the roles that they left. Yeah, I don't I don't

1710
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if Patricia was as bad

1711
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: as you say he was. Well, I think you look

1712
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: at difference between seventeen and eighteen, it's pretty striking, you know.

1713
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: And like, was he a good coach even before he

1714
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: was a coordinator? I mean maybe, you know, I don't

1715
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: own I think even if he did. No matter how

1716
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 1: you feel about those guys or how they did or

1717
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: didn't do, neither of them have been an offensive like coach,

1718
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, and they've done like positional But that's a

1719
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: numbable army together. It's football, that's the thing. I know.

1720
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: It's football. That's and that And I'm with you on

1721
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: on that. Point to a point, but it's also like,

1722
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: you gotta like, this is very important to the future

1723
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: of the franchise, and I get it. I I probably

1724
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: have more respect for those guys than some people do.

1725
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you gotta put that get

1726
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: back to our earlier email. If the offense takes a

1727
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: visible step backwards, does that put un inspired? It's not,

1728
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: it's flat, it's they're not. Really there's never a point

1729
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: even like last year on the hot seat. They were

1730
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: rare last year, but you saw glimpses in like Cleveland

1731
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: where it's like, man, they're cooking. Now, everything's kind of working.

1732
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: It didn't happen at the end of the season, but

1733
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: you know that that's what has to happen. And regardless

1734
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: of how you do or don't feel about how they

1735
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: were when they were here previously, they've got to make

1736
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: mac Jones and this offense better. They're they're getting back

1737
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: most of the pieces that they had of a of

1738
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: an average offense. That is what it is. But that's everything.

1739
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: I think More importantly, it's you know, what the team

1740
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: is overall season that could put him on the hot

1741
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: seat if they're you know, both sides of the ball floundering,

1742
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 1: not just on offense. Oh yeah, if they aren't a

1743
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 1: playoff team, or if they're like you know, just significantly

1744
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: worse off than they were this past year, I think

1745
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: that that puts him in that and it's I think,

1746
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: and it'll mean I don't want to tie it to

1747
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Bill's quote of you know, is that what we are

1748
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: or is that just a bad night. I guess we'll

1749
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: find out next year when we start playing. You're right,

1750
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 1: and that's and that's what it is. I think we

1751
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: were lulled into. I mean, I don't think I would

1752
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: say I had a false sense of security when they

1753
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 1: reeled off those wins. I think you put in context

1754
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: all of them, and they don't quite look like a

1755
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: lot of times as a seven or eight game win

1756
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 1: streak would look at the NFL um so who are they?

1757
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: And that's and now you're pulling Josh out of that equation.

1758
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see. It's got to be better. Yeah,

1759
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: Paul writes in from the colony, what do you believe

1760
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks justification was for trading Wilson? They had the

1761
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: hardest component of a good team to fill under contract.

1762
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Why could they not make it work. How much did

1763
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: his salary have to do with it? He wanted out.

1764
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: It's pretty soon. It's the same thing really on a

1765
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: different scale. With Brady, he wanted to leave, so they

1766
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: accommodated him. I mean they tried to make it work

1767
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: for another year. He wanted on last wanted. I was

1768
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna say that was last year's time. They tried to

1769
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: make it work. I think they felt like they weren't

1770
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: in a position that they were going to be able

1771
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: to win with him, so they accommodated him. I think,

1772
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean without I'm not this isn't you know, Seahawks unfiltered.

1773
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: But that's the way I look at it. From afar

1774
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: is I think that they had some good they had

1775
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: some good years. They bottomed out this year. I think

1776
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: there there was some great stuff on Twitter over the weekend. Dues,

1777
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught any of this about

1778
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: just how badly Seattle has drafted the last couple of years.

1779
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: So they've really failed to bring in players to help him,

1780
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, beyond the receivers. I mean, he's got he's

1781
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: got weapons to throw to, but their offensive line has

1782
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,480
Speaker 1: been a mess for a while. Their defense is completely deteriorated.

1783
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: Did you say something on Tuesday about um, their they've

1784
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: got kind of arrogant with the way that they played defense?

1785
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: Is that was that was pizza. That's why you were

1786
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: hearing got you guys were talking. I think Fred heard it.

1787
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: I think Deuce was there for the press commence and

1788
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: saw it. Was surprised. But so I think there was

1789
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of different things at play with Seattle that

1790
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: sort of point painted like Russell Wilson's kind of tired

1791
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: of being a one man show. I think it's an

1792
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: interesting kind of comparison to to the Patriots, because you've

1793
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: got to I mean, you've got to coach even older

1794
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: than Belichick. What is you know, what does Pete Carroll

1795
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: want to do? Like how long does he want to

1796
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: be there? Does he want to especially when you're talking

1797
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: about your defense, your baby, like that's him, right, that's

1798
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: that's like what he originated and he's saying you can't

1799
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: really do it the same way. Is he ready to

1800
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: become innovative and you know, find the next quarterback? It

1801
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: was interesting that they've burned that up, Paul, because I

1802
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: hadn't really seen as a similar kind of reaction to

1803
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: how the Patriots draft. Until that point when I started

1804
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: reading with Seattle, didn't like, Wow, this sounds exactly like

1805
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: what the Patriots have said, you know, just they had

1806
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: They've drafted guys over where they should have. They missed

1807
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: stone picks, and it's a similar thing. And I just

1808
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: think that's one of the big truths of the NFL.

1809
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: You miss on draft picks. You can only sustain it

1810
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: so long unless you are really really good at free

1811
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: agency and managing how much you give guys and targeting

1812
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: guys and all that. Yeah. Uh, David and Bethlem Bethlehem,

1813
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: who's our resident etymologists. He says the barn burner origin

1814
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: a contest so disputed that the vitriol exceeds normal bounds.

1815
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Example is an old New York Dutch farmer who was

1816
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 1: so determined to eradicate rats that he burned his barn down.

1817
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: Just build a new bar and then have to deal

1818
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: with rats anymore. That's that's like Paul Liken't I can't

1819
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: figure it out right? Um, let's see, Cody writes in

1820
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: I was going to say one thing, just not a

1821
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: major but but interesting. Nonetheless, the lines have informed Trey

1822
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: Flowers that he will be released on the first day

1823
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: of the twenty Now how old is he probably in

1824
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: his late twenties. Yeah, he's in that. I wouldn't mind.

1825
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind either. I put him in the thing

1826
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: I wrote yesterday of just former Patriots. That good. I

1827
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: mean they need an edge guy. He's younger, a little bit,

1828
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of a Definitely, you could get him

1829
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: to say yes to anything, and sometimes in the same

1830
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: interview somebody would make a different point on the same

1831
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: topic and he would agree with that too. Twenty nine

1832
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 1: in August twenty Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, he was funny.

1833
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: He's coming. I mean, he might be looking to recoup

1834
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: the money he's gonna lose by getting released. And if

1835
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: that's the case, I don't know how much I want

1836
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: to pay a twenty nine year old, but obviously a

1837
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: guy who has familiarity with the way things are done here. Yeah,

1838
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: absolutely be interesting. Dyed that you Fred. I like to

1839
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: get your opinions before they do or don't sign them. Yeah.

1840
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: I I like the player, but I need to see

1841
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: the money, you know, always a condition, Yeah, always a

1842
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: Condiolutely is there a player that you wouldn't care about

1843
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:02,640
Speaker 1: the money? Sure who Tom uh My homes any of

1844
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: those elite quarterbacks. Is there any non quarterback that you

1845
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't care about the money? Uh? Aaron Donald, it's a

1846
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, I mean there are some what's your

1847
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: linebacker in Dallas that I'm not thinking, Cebo Samuel? Oh No,

1848
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: Layton vander Rush is the new one making the rounds now,

1849
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, of that, I don't care football player. I

1850
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: don't care. Whatever he wants, whatever he wants whatever, well

1851
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: within his position range. He's the highest paid wide receiver

1852
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: in football. You would make him the highest paid receiver. Yeah,

1853
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: oh oh oh, I yeah, that's the that's the kind

1854
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: of analysis I'm looking for. Kursh I love me some,

1855
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. No, I mean I I largely agree with you.

1856
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: And you have a player that you really like and covet.

1857
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: You should be willing to give him anything. Oh and

1858
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: I think I heard on one of your shows, Paul that,

1859
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: oh I like it, but I don't want to give

1860
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 1: him that much. McCaffrey be available, yeah him, would you

1861
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: take him? I mean, if I could get him another

1862
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in running back at all. Somebody druly

1863
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: the comparison at a period his wife or fiance or

1864
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: something is Lupo, right, yes, yeah, Olivia cop I'm calling

1865
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: her Lupo from now. I have a friend whose last

1866
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: name is Lupa, Miss Rhode Island, Miss Universe, who used

1867
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: to go out with Amendola. Yea, so she's from Cranston correct, Right,

1868
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:29,759
Speaker 1: So then the time back to New England. Yeah, tie

1869
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: the knot? Why do you run your eyes like, Eric,

1870
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: just you don't like it. You don't generally get done

1871
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: because of the location of the girlfriend of the play.

1872
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: That's why he's rolling his eyes. Who, by the way,

1873
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: you used to go out with another member of the Patriots,

1874
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's a lot of staying power in

1875
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: that relationship. Who is that? What do you know about her? Eric?

1876
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: Is she? Yeah? I mean especially when she won the

1877
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: excuse me, when she won the pageant, Ye got a

1878
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of attention. She has like a restaurant in the

1879
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: state Lupo's. No, not Lupo's. There was a place called

1880
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: Lupo's in downtown Province was like, yeah, but it's like

1881
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: it used to be huge back in the day. It

1882
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: was like a concert venue right and down the Providence Yeah,

1883
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel Lupos. You remember who was a wolf Wolves?

1884
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: You remember when Amad got caught on Instagram like going

1885
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: off about put your phone down. Yeah, put your That's

1886
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: what it was, put your phone down. Yeah. She went

1887
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: to high school with my wife. We actually had promp

1888
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: pictures together, like all in the limo. Oh really were you?

1889
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 1: Were you sizing her? Wow? She can't say that, would you.

1890
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: We talked about it. Get out of here. Well, she's

1891
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: going out with McCaffrey, right, good looking guy, Yeah, Christian

1892
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: McCaffrey's a good looking dude. Danny, he's a good looking

1893
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: guy too. I mean she's a Mendela is also good. Yea,

1894
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: she would see what she likes. I mean she has

1895
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: miss Universe. You can kind of have her pick, right, Yeah,

1896
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Burnand's finest. Is there any other famous small state I know,

1897
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: famous beautiful people people from beside you from I would

1898
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: not qualify near nearly that much. Uh poly d oh

1899
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: god from Jersey Shore. Yeah, he's from Johnston, that I with.

1900
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: I am disgusted with that, not not the fact that

1901
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: he's from Johnston, just that the whole, that whole naking

1902
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: Italians look bad and the Jersey Shore kind of thing.

1903
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: That was horrendous. I'd like to see. Plus I might

1904
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: be related to him, resistantly, Yeah really yeah, wow famous roots. Yeah,

1905
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 1: who's related? I might be related. We have we have

1906
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: we have my grandmire extra disgusted with that a little bit.

1907
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah my brother no, not my brother No, but his

1908
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: last name is uh part of my family's lineage. So

1909
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that could be especially being in island. Yes,

1910
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh is that really nap? Yeah? Is that? Alex? Stay

1911
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: away from that, Eric, I didn't know Jersey Shore. We

1912
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: have revel la is about Deuce with Ted Williams. How

1913
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 1: Eric with Jersey Shore? God's with Lupo? Right, I guess

1914
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 1: I got my bitches in her name. Um. I don't

1915
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 1: think there's a person that I know that would be

1916
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,520
Speaker 1: less suited to be on the Jersey Shore than every obste.

1917
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: That's why it would be so wonderful. Now, he would

1918
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: be the guy that lives next door to them, that like,

1919
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, come on, I'm trying to sleep. Hey, Hey,

1920
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: why don't you open the book? My cat has a cold.

1921
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put her to sleep. Snoopy or snooky

1922
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell your name is He's like fur

1923
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 1: Eric's like raking leaves and they're blowing their leaves over

1924
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: on him, you know, mister Furley. Uh, Cody's in Nova Scotia.

1925
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: I was hoping to get an early take on Drake London.

1926
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,560
Speaker 1: I feel he's one of the most overrated, hate the

1927
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 1: Drake overrated receivers in this class. Every play of his

1928
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: that I see reminds me of to kill Harry, and

1929
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask, I'm conflicted. I'd like to ask

1930
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: why Eric is so cynical. Is it because of all

1931
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: the watching McCaul a teasing, the gotta get Me a

1932
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 1: Woman's song? Or are you just naturally like that? Between

1933
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: Eric and the Perpetual Wet Blanket that is Todd formerly

1934
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: of Canada, I feel like I need to take away

1935
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: my shoelaces at times. Wow, you and I avoided that. Yeah,

1936
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: it's that, But he says he petual Wet Blanket. I

1937
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: thought for sure it was gonna be me. He says

1938
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: he definitely likes the more assertive Eric. Since Andy's been gone,

1939
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: big change people have been talking about it for years,

1940
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 1: big change and growth, personal growth and how you described

1941
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: it earlier. For I used to go like hours without

1942
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: speaking well because it's hard. Like when they would yell

1943
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: at him, well, he would yell, but he was one

1944
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: of those people where I couldn't get a word. You

1945
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: can't get a word, and when he's arguing with you,

1946
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: you know how it is, it's the only way is

1947
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: to yell at the same time and then not into that.

1948
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm more like you in that kind of thing. I

1949
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: don't like arguing, Paul. We talked on the last show.

1950
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 1: Paul loves arguing for arguing sake. I hate it if

1951
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: I have to, but I don't like it. His words

1952
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: are like ten thousand little monkey fists pounding you over

1953
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 1: the head, bah bah bah. You know he's like, he

1954
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: does have an unfair way of arguing. Yeah, I want

1955
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: to bang Eric is. He just won't let you even talk.

1956
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: It's right now because I've you know, I've hung out

1957
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: with Andy enough. I've gone on AI with him a

1958
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: few times, and I'm like, and I like him, and

1959
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: but but I feel like he doesn't quite know me

1960
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: yet to start attacking me like he attacks everybody else.

1961
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I'm like, it's okay, I don't mind.

1962
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: Like you still got you still got that kick got

1963
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: so great A little bit he plays the time of

1964
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: picture he does. Yeah, he definitely tries to run the

1965
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: clock about it, but he's so face not like that

1966
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: when like, like like when he comes up to visit

1967
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: in the press box. Yeah, it's all like chummy, Hi,

1968
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 1: how you doing, like catching up on the family kind

1969
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: of thing. As soon as there's a microphone or an audience,

1970
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: he turns into that andy where he has to be like,

1971
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, overpowering bully. I think he's like that all

1972
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, not all the time, I know. I

1973
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 1: would just say to the first point in Drake Len

1974
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: and I feel a kind of similar, Um, you know

1975
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: a lot of contested catches. Um. I think that you know,

1976
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: he's like a captain, He's one of those kind of guys.

1977
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 1: I also felt like when I saw him an indie,

1978
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: he looks like he's got development to go. So I think,

1979
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 1: although you might not, you're you're probably not seeing the

1980
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: finished package with him. I think that's probably why his

1981
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: stock has kind of gone up, even if he's not,

1982
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, one of those through the roof testers kind

1983
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: of guys. I am sort of conflicted on him, and

1984
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: I think everything might just said I would a thousand

1985
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: percent agree with I think you see a ton of

1986
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: contested catches. That's a red flag for me. Nikil Harry,

1987
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Dobson. I mean, there's a lot of guys that

1988
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: if you're not getting open consistently in college, I don't

1989
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: know why you think you make the leap and you're

1990
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: suddenly wide open all the time. He is a dynamic

1991
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: athlete though, like you ever see some of those like

1992
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 1: a basketball guy. Yeah, he means I'm conflicted on him.

1993
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I could definitely see he was wildly productive, you know what,

1994
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: USC and their team completely fell apart and he got hurt.

1995
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 1: So I would also worry about, you know, the explosiveness

1996
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: that he has when he comes back. It's a twenty

1997
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: a cl for him too, right, I don't know. I

1998
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: think it's a twenty ACL for him as well. So

1999
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: there's some concerns there for a guy who's not always open.

2000
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 1: Maybe if he loses a fraction of a second off

2001
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: his forty times, does that make him, you know, yeah,

2002
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: easily guardable. It was funny though. It came up on

2003
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Twitter last night at some point, but they they somebody

2004
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: posted the immediate aftermath when they drafted Harry and they

2005
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: were playing like the mel kiper you know when they

2006
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: roll the highlights and they talk about the guy. And

2007
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 1: he was the last pick of the night, so they

2008
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: had a little extra time. And it was, you know,

2009
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:40,560
Speaker 1: funny watching it because first of all, I think it

2010
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: was a good reminder of that we're hyping up all

2011
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 1: these guys and all you know, anybody who's a first rumpet,

2012
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna be. He's gonna be. It doesn't always

2013
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: work out, but fractured right ankle, but cantet the same thing.

2014
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: It's the same Harry. You see now it's it's everything's

2015
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of tight. He's diving out and you know what

2016
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: makes his catch lay out? How many plays are there

2017
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: where he just makes it quick. Mike thinks about Drake Lendon.

2018
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Everything Mike says about him, I think that's the scouting report,

2019
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: that's what you've seen. But he's boyish, you know, like

2020
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: you just get that sense like he's not even close

2021
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: to where he'll be. So I just is he the

2022
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: kind of player that the Patriots could use. It's probably

2023
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 1: not quite that. I think it's more for me again.

2024
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson A love those quick guys that can do

2025
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of things. You can move them around. It's

2026
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: not all right, just run on the field. We're gonna

2027
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:27,679
Speaker 1: throw it up he and jump over the guy and catches.

2028
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen in the NFL like it does

2029
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah. I just like the idea that Mike

2030
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,560
Speaker 1: is talking about with like a dynamic player, not just

2031
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: a little slot guy that can average nine point eight

2032
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 1: yards per catch. You know there's value to that, don't

2033
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 1: get me wrong, But I want you, guys. I want

2034
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: a playmaker, someone who could be something different than what

2035
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 1: they already have. Word shake, guys, get open. You know.

2036
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: It's like Debo. I mean, they just not to say

2037
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: that he needs to do everything the Debo does, but

2038
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 1: it's just a skill set that can do a bunch

2039
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: of different things. And as he evolves, you know. And

2040
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Perry post actually a couple of things I wanted to

2041
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: bring about Phil Perry um. But with Phil Perry, no, no,

2042
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 1: I just some interesting points he brought up. That's that's

2043
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: what it felt bad for for what Vrabel did to

2044
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: him and India. It was it was it was pretty funny.

2045
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: He got He walked right into uh into getting rabeled,

2046
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: but oh, I just totally figure out point. That's what

2047
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I do. But but I remember my first one was

2048
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: that he brought up in one of his things talking

2049
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: about jac Jackson, which is a point that that I've

2050
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: said a couple of times is people around the league

2051
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 1: think it's going to be so hard for the Patriots

2052
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 1: to find man corners now, and could that signal a

2053
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: shift and maybe they get away from that, maybe they

2054
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 1: focus more on the front seven and they get zone

2055
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: guys who were tough, and what they did last year

2056
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: anyway kinda. I mean, I guess it was inadvertent. I mean,

2057
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: I think if you had JC and Jonathan Jones, you've

2058
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: got a couple of guys. An they switched the zone

2059
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: because they had to, but they didn't necessarily have zone guys.

2060
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: But how do they feel about that? Were they forced

2061
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 1: into it? Did they? Jalen Mills is the reason they

2062
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: switched to zone once once you had no chance of

2063
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Gilmore coming back, and and then Jonathan Jones goes out,

2064
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: So Jalen Mills plays a major role, and I think

2065
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 1: that's why they went to his own. Again, I'm not

2066
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 1: a coach that could be one hundred percent wrong. But

2067
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: I saw a line of demarcation there Dallas game. Yeah yeah, Pat,

2068
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden things changed. And I think

2069
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: it's because they didn't think they had the personnel to

2070
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: play man. Well, that's that's for sure. I remember my

2071
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: other thing about Phil um his thing today was that,

2072
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,919
Speaker 1: in speaking of people in any they thought the Patriots

2073
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: offense was easy to defend because there wasn't those kind

2074
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: of guys that could be moved around, like, oh crap,

2075
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do if they got him outside?

2076
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 1: How are we going to defend that? You know that

2077
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 1: there's not really any that you knew what was gonna be.

2078
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna be you know, aglare on the outside and

2079
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 1: born and and Myers kind of work in the middle. Henry,

2080
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: speaking of Phil Perry, Pat and Agulon, writes in listen

2081
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: to his podcast recently, I think Phil Perry and he

2082
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: was talking about who the team should nominate as the

2083
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: emotional leader once Slater retires this offseason or sometime in

2084
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: the near future. His nominee was Kendrick Bourne. I love

2085
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: this idea of KB has quickly become one of my

2086
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: favorite Patriots. As the team is currently constructed he exudes

2087
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: great vibes and positive energy. He'd be great in that

2088
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: role in my opinion, and put me in the camp

2089
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: to trade Harry for Andy Isabella. Harry's coming in that

2090
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 1: camp too. By Harry's probably gone on or around camp

2091
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: time more than likely sooner than that. Let Isabella come

2092
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: in and compete for a roster spot in camp. And

2093
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe you catch lightning in a bottle and

2094
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: the kid can fit in this offense. Plus I heard

2095
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: on some show that he's a good returner. I would

2096
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: absolutely be in favor of that, you know, one of

2097
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: those typical my trash for your trash kind of deals.

2098
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 1: I would think it makes all the all the sense

2099
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: in the world. He can run, Isabella can run. Yeah,

2100
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: it's fast. You mentioned ACL and did I hear that,

2101
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Like it's now determined that the artificial turf has caused

2102
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 1: more acls than grass did, and like there's a big

2103
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: movement to get back to grass. Yeah, the data shows

2104
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 1: that more injuries happen on yeah, the fake stuff. Yeah,

2105
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 1: And there was some talk during the regular season. I

2106
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: think that the NFL is encouraging teams to go back

2107
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: to grass as much as possible, Right, So, well, would

2108
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: you be if your favor like if the NFL did

2109
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 1: what FIFA does and say you must play on grass,

2110
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: would you be okay if that that was the case,

2111
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: I would be okay. I don't Yeah, that's it's it's

2112
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: the money off of I don't play on the field field.

2113
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: How do you tell Robert Kraft all right, well, now

2114
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,759
Speaker 1: you can't do those summer concerts, you can't have football.

2115
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,560
Speaker 1: But what what if they would they have to in

2116
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 1: a case like like here where we don't have the

2117
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 1: rollout you know field, would they have to do what

2118
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: FIFA does when they play a match here, which is

2119
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: bringing bring your own grass, bring your own grass, put

2120
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 1: the new sod like every week. Would you have to

2121
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 1: do that? That would be a fortune. Yeah, But if

2122
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 1: the NFL's making you do it, because like if you

2123
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 1: have a concert venue, you've got like maybe you've got

2124
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: like your your concrete like base. Yeah, and then okay,

2125
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: we know like usually after August there's really not a

2126
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: lot of concerts that go on, you know, that's not

2127
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: really concert season generally ends about that time. So at

2128
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: that point you put the grass in and you're pretty

2129
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 1: safe at that point, but you have to keep maintaining

2130
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: it now for the rest of this or they could

2131
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: figure out how to make artificial turf that's safer, Yeah,

2132
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: because they've had different generations they have. Yeah, but I

2133
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 1: think kind of as close to the grass as you

2134
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: can get, and I think it's still dangerous. So weird.

2135
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just havn't walked like you know,

2136
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: occasionally you walk on that. I don't know how how

2137
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: it just feels so. I mean, I'm sure you get

2138
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: used to it to an extent, but every time I

2139
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 1: walk on it, I'm like, I can't imagine. I know,

2140
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: it's running and cutting. It's a little slippery too, Even

2141
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 1: when it's not wet, it feels slippery. I don't get it.

2142
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,720
Speaker 1: I like, I've always liked the grass better. I mean, oh,

2143
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm old school traditional that way, but I just I

2144
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: like fields that are grass, you know. I like the

2145
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: look of it, the smell of it. Yeah. See, I

2146
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:59,759
Speaker 1: like grass fields, but when they're torn up and dirty,

2147
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: right when they know, when they're in places that class

2148
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 1: you know, you can have it like car parks. I'll

2149
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: give you an example, Hinesfield. I don't want to play

2150
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: there after Like the middle of October. It's done right,

2151
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: like like to me, that's a that's a venue that

2152
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't hold up well. All right, So I don't

2153
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: want to play on grass if it's not good, right,

2154
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I understand it's safer and if they

2155
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 1: went to that for the safety of the players, I

2156
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 1: think that would be a good move. Joe from Western Australia.

2157
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for your excellent work. I'm a traditional podcast listener

2158
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: and I never missed your show, enjoying the offseason as

2159
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: much as ever. Thanks for carrying me through the year.

2160
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 1: You are champs. The other day you had a flashback

2161
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 1: to Eric talking about going into the cashier to pay

2162
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 1: for gas, but they call it petrol in Australia. He

2163
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: lives in the wrong country over here. It's the opposite

2164
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: to what you seem to describe Fred. The vast majority

2165
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 1: do not pay at the pump. Nearly everyone goes in

2166
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 1: and pays inside. I'm not sure why. That's just what

2167
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 1: we do. Maybe we like the human contact. Maybe it's

2168
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: the good weather and so we don't mind the oh

2169
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: so long walk that it takes to go in. I'm

2170
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 1: not sure, but that's what we do. Oh, I think,

2171
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: I think I have a reason. Why is there south

2172
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: of the equator everything's reversed. Well, you took it out.

2173
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: You stepped on my joke. Sorry. When it's busy, we

2174
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: will literally cue that. We will literally literally queue in

2175
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: the shop waiting to pay, even though the facility is

2176
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: right there to pay it the pump. So they have

2177
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: the choice. Yeah, but they choose to go in. That's

2178
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: it's just weird to go chat with the guy inside.

2179
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 1: How's it going? Yeah, scratchers, But he said, in honor

2180
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 1: of you, Fred, I tried to pay it the pump

2181
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: the other day. It felt strange and very wrong. It's

2182
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: just wrong, fred Is it right? They say about which McCall,

2183
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: it's too and they're wrong. No, did I tell you

2184
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: I tried there? No? Is it any better than saw dust?

2185
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 1: It's more peanut butter. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah.

2186
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: I gotta give it credit that they did a good

2187
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 1: job of it. I mean, I still have a you know,

2188
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: soft spot for the original, but I would not toss

2189
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: a hoosi what's it out of bed? I just don't

2190
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: know why that had to come up with an alternate

2191
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 1: version of a name of a name you can't remember, right,

2192
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: and plus your name was the better one. I thought,

2193
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 1: what what what the is this? They're supposed to be

2194
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: swearing on you? You know you casually just toss about

2195
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: your your blue language. Ah, let's see a lot of

2196
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of emails about like what free agent you'd

2197
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 1: want to bring in? And you know, I don't know

2198
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 1: if you dot com any you know, yes, you know,

2199
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: I feel like Mike and we have worked very hard

2200
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 1: on our free agent forecast. Go and read me your

2201
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 1: top three agents that you would want the Patriots to

2202
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: bring in any position. Neil corn Rich. Ye, he's an

2203
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: Andrew Gimember. My top three agents I should want to

2204
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: be I thought, I said free agents. No, I'm sure

2205
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: you did. I mean, I just not to cop out,

2206
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 1: but I'd start with the interior, the guy, the internal guys.

2207
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: I would start with those few guys. I don't know.

2208
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I have no I feel like I

2209
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 1: have no bead on this year of what they're gonna do.

2210
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: I really not that I ever think I do. Maybe

2211
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 1: I maybe I have fault. Problem is they don't have

2212
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: the money to do the things i'd want them to do.

2213
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I really don't want to My

2214
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: top three agents they wouldn't be able to afford. Wait

2215
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 1: a minute, now, you didn't listen to Paul's rant at

2216
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: the top of the show. You're saying that they don't

2217
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: have the money, and Paul says that's not yeah, no,

2218
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: I no, no, no, he didn't say that. I said

2219
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: the opposite. What are you saying? People are talking about

2220
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 1: cap space, right, cap spaces can be manipulated, as Bill says, right,

2221
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 1: So how do you know they don't have the money?

2222
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: The money is because they just spent two hundred million

2223
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: like everybody's got a price. Fred, I'm sorry, Like, I

2224
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 1: don't care who you are. You can't just go free

2225
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: agent hog wild every year like that makes sense to

2226
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: me that the pages probably be a little bit more

2227
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 1: conservative this year, tossing around the signing bonuses after what

2228
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: they did last year. There's only so I mean, can

2229
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 1: can they do it? Does Ert Kraft actually have the money? Yeah?

2230
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: I think he does. I think it's unlikely that they

2231
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: go out and spend another couple one hundred million on

2232
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 1: a dozen free agents. I put trey flowers near the top.

2233
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: I would put Trey flowers there. I mean, I want

2234
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 1: a receiver. DJ Chark is a guy that I kind

2235
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 1: of like. Don't you think McCaffrey would do well with

2236
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: with mac Jones? No, no, yes, but he definitely would.

2237
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 1: He's really Yeah, I think McCaffrey would make you guys

2238
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 1: talk you know, this Matt Jones thing. I don't know know,

2239
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: but Christian McCaffrey is a great No, but you guys

2240
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: talk about you know, we want a playmaker. Yeah, he's

2241
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 1: a playmaker. Yeah, for three games, he's a playmaker. Oh

2242
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: that's what he does. So you think he not every

2243
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: year he gets injured. Boy, don't make me do it

2244
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 1: holding his phone menacingly, I have the power up. Okay,

2245
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: let's see how many How don't we get Quon Barkley too, No,

2246
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: but let's see how many games a kind of guy

2247
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: dynamic heard all the time. Yeah, McCaffrey does. Yet injured

2248
01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:58,839
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and well he had he has recently.

2249
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see over his career. Let's see, Paul

2250
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: bring it up. Do we know where girlfriends? She's from? Cranston?

2251
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 1: I believe the last two years. Okay, play three games

2252
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and seven and twenty twenty Okay, what

2253
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: about before that? He played before that? The last two

2254
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 1: years he's missed. Okay, he's had a bad run, but

2255
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 1: before that, he Oh you know what usually happens. You

2256
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: usually get more durable after you missed times. I'm serious, Paul,

2257
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: I am too. He's missed a lot of games last

2258
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: last two years. Yes, his first three years when he

2259
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: was young and spry, he was healthy. Okay, when you

2260
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 1: start getting the ball one hundred times a year, you

2261
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 1: get hurt. You wouldn't do that to him here, Well,

2262
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 1: then I don't want him. If he's not going to

2263
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: be a guy who's gonna get one hundred touches, well

2264
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do what Carolina did with him. So

2265
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 1: you make him that the upgraded version of James White.

2266
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 1: Well maybe a little bit more than that. Yeah, yeah,

2267
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't want him getting James White touches with that

2268
01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: track record injury wise. This is my pointing exactly. He

2269
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 1: won't hold up. I don't know about that. I can

2270
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 1: understand the great player frustration though, because the talent, he's

2271
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: kind of their marquee guy, right, and he can't get

2272
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, so much of the art

2273
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 1: offense went through his, Everything went through him. You go

2274
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: into the year and you talk about this is our

2275
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: guy and he gets hurt and you're like, whoa. Every

2276
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: year it's you know with Henry, right, although I mean

2277
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: if he's durable, yeah, yeah, except for last time, right,

2278
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: that's once. So is he gonna get better because you

2279
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: don't get better? Paul? Let me ask you something. Do

2280
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: you think he'll get hurt into the show took? Do

2281
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 1: you think he'll get hurt this year? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I do her. Yeah, I think the chances are when

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Speaker 1: you play sixteen sixteen sixteen, then you get hurt, chances

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Speaker 1: are you gonna keep getting hurt? Okay, So I would

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Speaker 1: say yes, they should move on from that. Wow, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll take him. Go ahead, y'all know I would take him,

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Speaker 1: but not on the face in the biblical sense. All Right,

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