1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Tay Colts fans. I'm JJ Sankavitten. Welcome into another episode 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: of The Colt Show. In Indianapolis Colts Podcast. We are 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: presented by our friends at Microsoft Surface Copilot plus PC 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: and we cannot go anywhere else with today's episode. Then 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: the monumental, shocking, intriguing, go to a thesaurus and come 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: up with some other words. News that the Colts on 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Tuesday signed forty four year old quarterback Philip Rivers to 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: their practice squad. I've got Bill Brooks here to break 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: it all down. This is gonna kind of be a 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: crossover episode of The Colt Show and instant reaction because 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: what else is there to talk about other than Philip 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Rivers joining the Colts coming out of retirement to join 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the Colts practice squad. We're gonna get into all of 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: that with myself and Bill Brooks right after this here 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: on The Colt Show. The Colt Show is presented by 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Microsoft Surface Copilot plus PC, where every day is game day. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Greatness in the NFL starts long before kickoff. 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It is my pleasure 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: to be joined here on The Colts Show by Bill Brooks, 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Colts Ring of Honor wide receiver. You can hear him, 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: of course on ninety three five and one oh seven 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: five the Fan for the Colts pre and postgame shows. 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: He also is the co host of the Instant Reaction 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: podcast with Casey Value and Bill. We save Instant Reaction 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: for big News. This being Tuesday, this is coming out Tuesday, 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: of the day the Colt Show comes out. We're doing 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: a cross over here. What was your reaction, Bill when 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: you saw come across your phone on Monday night that 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: the Cults are bringing Philip Rivers in for a workout 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: to determine if both parties were interested, which they now are. 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is on the Cults practice squad of Philip 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Rivers coming out of retirement. What was your reaction there? 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: I was shocked, to be honest with you, because Phil 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: Rivers forty four years old. I know when I finished 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: playing out thirty two, that was pretty much it for me, 44 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: and for a forty four year old young man. I 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: won't call him down because I'm older him right now, 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: a forty four year old young man coming back to 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: play in the National Football League at that age is 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: just shocking to me. 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I did like a dramatic reading for my 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: entire family of the Ian Rapaport tweet on Monday night 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: of just like you guys will not believe this, And 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: of course my five year olds have no idea who 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is. They were barely a year old when 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: he last played in the NFL. Before we get into 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of any discussion about this bill, I just want 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: to set up what we know and what we don't 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: know about Philip Rivers right now. Okay, so let's roll 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: down this. Philip Rivers was signed to the Colts practice 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: squad on Tuesday, So what does that mean on the 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: practice squad for Philip Rivers? To play, he would have 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: to be elevated from the practice squad to the active 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: roster for game day. The Colts make these moves Bill 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: on Saturday every week of calling a guy out from 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the practice squad to dress him to play on Sunday. However, 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: we don't know if Philip Rivers is going to play. 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: We do not know even if he's elevated. We do 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: not know if he's going to play. It's Tuesday. We 68 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: are gonna get a lot more clarity as the week 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: goes on, and that Bill is because we do not 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: know the status of Riley Leonard. Riley Leonard is dealing 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: with a knee injury. Shane Steiken told us this on Monday. 72 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Stiken said he hopes Leonard can play Sunday against the Seahawks, 73 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: but we don't know right now. On Tuesday, we'll see 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: what the injury report is. On Wednesday, we'll see what 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Shaneesdeken says on Wednesday. Another thing we don't know, Bill, 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: We don't know that if Riley Leonard is healthy, is 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: he actually going to start. That is a question that 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure Shanesdeyken will answer on Wednesday. What we do 79 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: know is that Philip Rivers and Shanesteiken are extremely close. Yes, 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: like like, I cannot stress that enough, Bill, how close 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: these two guys are. Steichen was on the Chargers' coaching 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: staff from twenty eleven to twenty twelve and then from 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen through twenty twenty. In those years, he worked 84 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers all the way from being an offensive 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: quality control coats coach to the Chargers quarterback coach. To 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he was the interim offensive coordinator, so he's 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: got a lot of experience. Shane said in his opening 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: press conference in twenty twenty three, quote he thanked Philip 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: Rivers among the many people he thinked. He said, quote, 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about how much you've had an 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: impact on me as a coach. He's talking about Philip Rivers. Quote, 92 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: so many great memories together and couldn't be more thankful 93 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: for our friendship. Additionally, Philip Rivers is and Shane Stikeen 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: are not the only connection there, because if you remember, 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: Riley Leonard worked out with Philip Rivers leading into the 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL draft. Riley Leonard is from Fair Hope, Alabama. 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: That is where Philip Rivers lives. They like Riley went 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers' backyard to throw. He's had done a 99 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of work with Rivers and going into the draft, 100 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: both Philip Rivers and Shane Stike and stamped their approval 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: on Riley Leonard. Which now Mike Lacy, who is the 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Colts Area scout who scouted Riley Leonard said after the 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: draft quote that he had both those guys in his 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: corner made it very easy to stand on the table 105 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and fight for him here in this building. One other 106 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: thing here, Philip Rivers is a Hall of Fame semi 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: finalist right now. Yeah, Bill, if he just signing him 108 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: to the practice squad does not mean his eligibility clock 109 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: will reset. You can be on a practice squad and 110 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: remain eligible for the Hall of Fame. However, and I 111 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: confirm this with Mike Chappel, who is a Hall of 112 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: Fame voter, legendary everyone knows chapter I don't. Chap confirmed 113 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: to me that if Philip Rivers is elevated to the 114 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: active roster, whether he plays or not, it will reset 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame clock. He would not be eligible 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame again until the class of 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: twenty thirty one. There is a lot here. 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: Bill, that's a lot to digest, a lot to digest. 119 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: We don't know how Philip Rivers looked in his workout. 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out more about that as the 121 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: week goes on. But Bill, a lot that we don't know, 122 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot that we do know. But I think the 123 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: biggest questions out here are is he gonna play? Can 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: he play? Do the Colts plan to play him? Or 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: do they plan for this to be maybe more of 126 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: a mentorship for Riley Leonard? Is he the emergent? There 127 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: are just a lot that we need to find out. 128 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: But right now, Bill, we just were going to react 129 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers coming out of retirement. I want to 130 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: go back to something you said about at the age 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: of thirty two when you retired and how your body 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: felt after that. How can you imagine Philip Rivers, just 133 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: like if you were not not putting yourself in issues, 134 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: but just you knew what it was like to have 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: that year or two out of the NFL. How does 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: your body change and what does it take to get 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: ready to play when you've been out of it for 138 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: a little while. 139 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is one of those things. When I 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: finished playing, I was, like I said, three or two, 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: and I made a decision to retire myself because I 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: knew that my my athletic ability had diminished quite a bit. Yeah, 143 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't do some of the things that I want 144 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: to do. Is very hard to create separation and things 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: like that, and I saw younger guys making it look 146 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: so easy, and you know what, I know, it's time 147 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: to move on. 148 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: And after that I had some time off. But when it. 149 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: Came around time training camp, I started to feel like, 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: you know, it's time to work out and try to 151 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: try to get back in shape again and do some 152 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: different things. But getting back in shape then trying to 153 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: just get ready for just in case. 154 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: I got a call. 155 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: It was a little different because I wasn't really doing 156 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: the things that I should have been doing. 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: To get ready for a football season. 158 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: And a lot of times you're you're getting back in 159 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: shape and you're doing those things, but you're lifting, you're running, 160 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: but you're not doing the things where you know. 161 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: It can get you in football shape. 162 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: For me, like leaning on guys and you know, running 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: routes against people and things like that. So different, it's 164 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: totally it's different than being in shape. Yes, so sometimes 165 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: you're not doing that now as a quarterback, it might 166 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: be a little bit different. You know, him taking this 167 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: drop is probably no different than he does it in practice, 168 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: or he does it on his own throwing the football 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: the same thing. There's some other things that will come 170 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: into play that you know will be different when you 171 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: get into training camp for a quarterback. But for me, 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: body shape wise, as far as getting in shape, it's 173 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: a totally different. So I knew I wasn't going to 174 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: be in football shape because that takes some time to 175 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: get used to the tugging, the pulling on you and 176 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: things like that, and being sore and coming back the 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: next day. Where I took time off if I was sore, 178 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: I took a couple of days off. 179 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: We're in training camp. 180 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: You know, you're sore, you're tied, you fight through it, 181 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: and you get through it to the next day. So 182 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be a little bit different. So I'm 183 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: sure it would be an adjustment for Philip, but I'm 184 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: sure he'll be fine if if it comes down to that. 185 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I think the thing here, Bill is, you know, if 186 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, you hopefully aren't taking a ton of hits. 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: No. 188 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: To me, what I look at this and I see 189 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: is Philip Rivers having that kind of mind meld with 190 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Shane Steichen. I mean, these two guys have so much 191 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: respect for each other. They free communicate. It's not like, 192 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, they were coached together with the Chargers and 193 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: then they kind of went their separate ways. Like these 194 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: guys are close there tight. That is an incredibly important 195 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: part of all of this. In you know, if you're wondering, well, 196 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: like why would the Colts even be interested in Philip 197 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Rivers and why would he be willing to come out 198 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: of retirement, I think it starts and it ends with 199 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: that relationship with Shane Steichen. And you know, maybe it 200 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: doesn't end because I think the relationship with Riley Leonard 201 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: matters too. But if you go back and you look 202 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: at kind of everything Shane has ever said about Philip, 203 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: everything Philip has ever said about Shane, these two guys 204 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Bill see the. 205 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: Game the same way. 206 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: And I think Bill the most critical thing here is 207 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: that Philip Rivers right now understands what Shane Styken wants 208 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: to accomplish with the plays he is calling, and that 209 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: you know what that means Bill right, is Okay, if 210 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: we call this route concept against this coverage, this is 211 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: where the ball should go. That has not diminished in 212 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, and I think he's so in tune with 213 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: what Shane Stikeen is doing that that's something you can 214 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: pick up pretty quickly. 215 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: I would imagine, Oh yeah, I'm sure you can pick 216 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: up that pretty quickly. Because to me, I think that's 217 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: one of the big keys right there, is you have 218 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: a quarterback that understands what the head coach off as 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: of coordinator, the guy who's calling the plays is looking for. 220 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: So when the play is called, you know that, Okay, 221 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: this guy's familiar with it. He understands it, he understands 222 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: the playbook, he understands what we're trying to accomplish on 223 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 2: this play, maybe set up the next play after that. 224 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: And having Philip Rivers on the team, you have a 225 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: guy that is like a coach on the field basically, 226 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: and he has. 227 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: A common presence out there. 228 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: He can get the people in the right spots that 229 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: need to be in the right spots, get them in 230 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: and out of the plays that they need to because 231 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: he has an understanding of what the coach is trying 232 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: to accomplish, and he understands the playbook, he understands the terminology. 233 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: It might be a few things that are a little 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: different that you know Shane has changed since you know 235 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: they were together, but he would understand and have a 236 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: concept of what Shane is trying to do. And of 237 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: course he would understand the defense because knowing being around 238 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: for seventeen years in the National Football League playing, he's 239 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: seen pretty much a lot of the defenses that they're 240 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: gonna throw at him. 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Do you think the speed of the game, and this 242 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: is all if Philip plays, will get kind of the 243 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: other part of it. If Philip plays, do you think 244 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: the speed of the game would be an adjustment still 245 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: for him? 246 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: I think at first it would be adjustment for him 247 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: because I know when I played, even going from the 248 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: last season to the next season, the first couple of 249 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: days of practice and everything, the speed of the game, 250 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: you know, you got to get used to it. 251 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: Again. 252 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: I think that would be an adjustment for Philip. I 253 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: think he would, you know, have to get used to that. 254 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: The speed of the game and how things are done 255 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: in regards to the speed of the ends coming around, 256 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: just how things are moving. People flashing in front of 257 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: your faces, the defensive backs what they're doing of people 258 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: coming down, dropping out, So that might be an adjustment, 259 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: but I think over time. 260 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 3: He would he. 261 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: Would get back into the speed of the game and knowing, Okay, 262 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: this is gonna happen this quick, so I have to 263 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: make my adjustment right now. So I think he will 264 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: get used to it. But it's gonna take a little 265 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: while for him to get used to the speed of 266 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: the game. 267 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: Do you think the transition or the adjustment period for 268 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: him getting used to throwing to some wide receivers he 269 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: isn't thrown too, which would be like you're I'm thinking 270 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: about Alec Pearce, Josh Downs, Tyler Warren. Yep, those three 271 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: main guys. Philip Rivers is thrown with Michael Pitton Junior. 272 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: He's thrown to mo Alei Cox, He's thrown to Jonathan Taylor, 273 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: he said, Quentin Nelson blocking for him. 274 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: Yep. 275 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: There is some familiarity there with the teammates. But that transition, 276 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: like how quickly can that happen h for a guy 277 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: like Piercer Downs. 278 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean, that remains to be seen. 279 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: It's hard to say because knowing that you know that 280 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: he hasn't worked with those guys before, and understanding, you know, 281 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: the speed of the guys, how this guy comes out 282 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: of his break, how this guy comes back to the ball. 283 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: You know, how this guy runs a deep route, an 284 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: over route. All those things will take time and it 285 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: just has to wrap it out, wrap it out, wrap 286 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: it out. Now, the thing you have to think about 287 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: when you do all those reps, him being forty four, 288 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: with his arms, his arm gonna get sore. I know 289 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: he's you know he's been coaching. I'm sure he's been 290 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: throwing the ball. So those are things you have to 291 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: think about when you have a guy like that come 292 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: in and you want to try to get those reps 293 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: so you can get the timing down. 294 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: You have to be you have to draw a fine 295 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: line there. 296 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Don't do too much, but do enough so you can 297 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: get the timing down. Feel comfortable with So I think 298 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: he can get the timing down. It might take some 299 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: time a little bit, but like you said, he's worked 300 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: with Pittman, he's worked with Taylor, So I think he 301 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: can get the timing down with those guys and those 302 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: guys who feel very comfortable with rivers and sure, you 303 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: know downs and Pierce and those guys are and Warren 304 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: will get used to what Phil looks is looking for 305 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: out there in the football field. 306 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: So that one scenario is that the Colts need to play. 307 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: The other scenario is that they don't need him to play, 308 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: that they need him to help Riley Leonard get up 309 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: to speed as fast as possible in the middle of 310 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: a playoff race where things are slipping away. The Colts 311 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: have lost three straight games for their last five. With 312 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers win over the Eagles on Monday Night Football, 313 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: the Cult are out of the playoff picture right now. 314 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: They're the number eight seed behind the seven seed Houston Texans, 315 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: who have the tiebreaker over them. The Chargers and Bills 316 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: are at nine and four, as are the Jacksonville Jaguars, 317 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: who are now a game ahead of them with a 318 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: game in hand. So the Colts are fighting for their 319 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: playoff lives here and they're doing so with a rookie 320 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: six round quarterback. I think as a team, you owe 321 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: to yourself to do whatever you can to get that 322 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: guy ready, and a big part of that, if Riley 323 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: is able to play on Sunday, is bringing in someone 324 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: in Philip Rivers who knows Riley Leonard and knows Shane Steichen. 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: What do you think that could accomplish that presence of 326 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Phil up Rivers in that quarterback room to help Riley 327 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Leonard get ready to play if he is healthy enough 328 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to play on Sunday. 329 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Philip can be another sounding board, so to speak, for 330 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: Ryan Lennon. Riley can ask him a question, Hey, look, 331 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: I know we have this play called. 332 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: You know, what are you looking for? What are you 333 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: looking at? What? You know? 334 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: What things should I be looking at to see? You know, 335 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: if they're going to actually rotate to this type of defense, 336 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: do something different where they're going to do up front 337 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: and line where I have to, you know, get the 338 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: line in a proper position, shift the line or shift 339 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: the blocking assignments. 340 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: So he would be a sounding board. 341 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: And I think Rivers can just talk to Leonard and say, look, 342 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: when I have this play called and I see this 343 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: type of defense, my first clue is to look at X, 344 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: Y or Z, whatever it may be, the lineback or 345 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: the defensive tackle, whoever it may be, whatever the play 346 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: may be called, and my key is to look at 347 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: him and see what where they're lined up, how they're 348 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: how they're position is and then I know that they're 349 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: running this type of defense. So then I could say, hey, 350 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep this play on because it's gonna be 351 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: successful play, or I'm gonna check out of it to 352 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: do this play, or I'm gonna keep the play on, 353 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna go to my first option. I'm 354 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: gonna keep go to my second option because that should 355 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: be open. 356 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: So Philip Rivers can give him some clue, some keys 357 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: the things to look at on each play. 358 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: Since he understands the offense, he understands what Shane is 359 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: looking for, and it could be a sounding board and 360 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: help Riley out in that way. And that way, Riley 361 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: can just say, Okay, I know this play. This is 362 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: the first thing I need to look at. Instead of 363 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: going through a whole litany of things to look at that, 364 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: you know what, I don't have to go through that 365 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: whole things. I look at this one thing, and that 366 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: makes the play go off a little easier. It makes 367 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: things easier for Riley. 368 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I thought Riley Leondard did some good moments against the Jaguars, 369 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: by the way, like the zero blitz that they sent 370 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: on the touchdown that should have been to Pittman they 371 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: called OPI. Yep, he got the cults into the right protection. 372 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: He moved JT move more and closer to the formation. 373 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: He got the blitz picked up. He knew he was hot, 374 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: he knew where he was hot, and he delivered the throw. 375 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was a really nice moment. And after 376 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: the game, like Riley credited a lot to Daniel Jones 377 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: for getting him prepared, adding another bit of reinforcement there 378 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers. I think only helps yes with that 379 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: when you have that veteran in that room who's been there, 380 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: done that. 381 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: The veteran in the room means so much to young 382 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: guys because the young guys can of course go to 383 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: him and ask him questions. And definitely if you feel 384 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: comfortable with that individual, makes it that much easier. 385 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: You've worked with the guy, he knows you, you know him. 386 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: So that makes us so much more easier for the 387 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: young guys to approach to the veterans to ask questions. 388 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 3: And then that just helps the whole room. 389 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: At when homeroom out, we have veterans in there that 390 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: are willing to help young guys to develop and grow 391 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: and give him some keys because someone helped them out 392 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: as well, the veterans out that are in there now. 393 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: So help the young guys out. Give a chance to grow. 394 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: And uh, you never know what can happen to those 395 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: young guys. They can just take off and be you 396 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: know what the next Philip rivers. 397 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: If you were forty four and someone called you and 398 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: and let's say it was you know, the person you 399 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: were the closest with, the coach you're the closest with 400 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: with in the NFL. They said, Bill, we really need you. 401 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just put put it like that is something 402 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: I can't comprehend to someone that never played in the NFL. 403 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: It is such a it is such a unique thing. Yes, 404 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: word is overused all the time, but I have never 405 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: seen anything like this, Bill. I mean, can you can 406 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: you put yourself even as a former player, can you 407 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: even put yourself in Philip shoes in this situation? 408 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: You know what? 409 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: As as the age I am now, No, I could 410 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: not put myself in the shoes because if someone asked 411 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: me to play, I would be first. 412 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: You know they were crazy, You're pulling a joke on me. 413 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: But uh, coming back to playing after being out for 414 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: a while now, he was only out what five years. 415 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: I think only five years, what, which is a long time. 416 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: You know, that's longer than an average career in the 417 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 2: National Football League is longer than longer than that. So 418 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine coming back and playing. But that just 419 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: shows the ties that Shane and him have, how close 420 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 2: they are, and if he's willing to come back and 421 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: play to help Shane out, help this team out, that 422 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: says a lot about that relationship between those two. So 423 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: you know, they have a special relationship. And if he 424 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: can come back and help this team and help Shane 425 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: and help this organization which he played for in the past, 426 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: I think it's great if he can do it. Surprise 427 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: and shot as I said before, but I think it's great. 428 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: Just shows the commitment and the relationship that he has 429 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: with Shane. 430 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: All right, well, Bill, on Tuesday, we got the first answer, 431 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: which was yes, Philip Rivers is going to sign with 432 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: the Colts. Practice one. Now, there are a lot more 433 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: questions that we need to answer, and we will get 434 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: answered over the next couple of days. We're gonna have 435 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: you covered on Colts dot Com, on the Colts AP 436 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: with Inside Football with Rick Ventura, with the Jack Doyle 437 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: Podcast with a tub minute drill podcast on Friday that 438 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: Amanda Foster hosts. That's gonna be a big one this week, 439 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: and then instant reaction. Bill, you'll be back with Casey 440 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and yes, who knows what you're gonna be 441 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: talking about? 442 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: Never know? 443 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: You never know. The National Football League and the narratives 444 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: within it are undefeated. It is an incredible, incredible league 445 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: that we get to talk about. And uh boy, this one, 446 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: this is a good one. 447 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: This is a good one. This is a surprise. Definitely 448 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 3: a surprise. 449 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: Definitely a surprise. But we'll see where it goes for 450 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: Bill Brooks, I'm JJ Stankowitz. Thank you for watching this 451 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: episode of The Cult Show, presented by Microsoft Surface co 452 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: Pilot plus PC, where every day is Game Day. Talk 453 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: to you next week. So long,