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Speaker 4: one of the best minds in the game, teaches everyone
Speaker 4: from children's to the pros. We're gonna talk NBA finals
Speaker 4: and the landscape of women's basketball. Welcome to the show,
Speaker 4: our brother, friend of the program. Feel handy, Phil, Welcome
Speaker 4: to the show.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you. Obviously, legendary player development guru, NBA assistant coach,
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Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 3: Matt Man?
Speaker 5: It's always a pleasure to be here with you guys. Man,
Speaker 5: thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: It's good to see you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: See we're catching you right before workouts.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, sir, out here at the Sports Academy. Man,
Speaker 5: it's kind of where I spent a lot of my
Speaker 5: free time. I got some workouts coming in this morning.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I mean, obviously, someone who's been in the
Speaker 4: finals a lot kind of just being able to be
Speaker 4: a spectator and a fan Obviously, of guys you've trained
Speaker 4: who are in the finals, what have you thought about
Speaker 4: the finals thus far?
Speaker 5: Man, this year has been It's been an interesting finals.
Speaker 5: I think that you know, the first couple of games
Speaker 5: in Boston, you know, a lot of people are like
Speaker 5: Dallas has done, but I mean, really, what Boston has
Speaker 5: done is just taking care of home court advantage, you know,
Speaker 5: and that's what you play for throughout the regular season,
Speaker 5: right to have home court advantage to where you can
Speaker 5: you can sleep in your bed in the first couple
Speaker 5: of games and hopefully take care of that home court.
Speaker 5: And I think obviously the first game, Boston shot the
Speaker 5: lights out. They couldn't miss. Having Presinger's back has been
Speaker 5: big for them. And then you know, I think game
Speaker 5: two was a lot more competitive, right, You kind of
Speaker 5: saw Dallas make some adjustments, played a lot better game,
Speaker 5: a little bit closer, and I just think that, you know,
Speaker 5: once they get their whole team on track, you know,
Speaker 5: game game three to night Man, you might see you
Speaker 5: might see a different story. Hopefully Boston. Boston understands that
Speaker 5: now the series is going to begin, right, They've taken
Speaker 5: care of business at home, but you get on the
Speaker 5: road now, you got to win that. You got to
Speaker 5: win that first game on the road to where to
Speaker 5: where you actually make it, make it to where you
Speaker 5: kind of put put yourself in a position of being
Speaker 5: in the power seats. So Dallas has got to come
Speaker 5: with it tonight.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I definitely agree. Obviously, there's a saying in
Speaker 4: the NBA that doesn't start till someone wins on the
Speaker 4: opposing team's court. So Boston has a chance. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: throw some numbers out right now because they're to me,
Speaker 4: they're pretty staggering on both sides.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Obviously Lucas doing what he's doing, thirty one, ten and
Speaker 4: six fifty percent from the field, thirty from three. My
Speaker 4: surprise right now is kind of I think in everyone's
Speaker 4: surprise has been Kyrie only fourteen points a game, shooting
Speaker 4: thirty five percent from the field. PJ. Washington and Derek Jones,
Speaker 4: who's been instrumental throughout this run to the finals, two
Speaker 4: for thirteen from the three, Lively, his numbers are down
Speaker 4: in twenty minutes, team overall is shooting twenty four percent
Speaker 4: from the three. So you know, Dallas is in this
Speaker 4: two hole as we speak. But then on the flip
Speaker 4: side Boston those five porzingis. I mean, it looks like
Speaker 4: he missed no time sixteen to five and with two
Speaker 4: and a half blocks per game sixty percent from the field.
Speaker 4: Tatum has been struggling thirty one percent from the field
Speaker 4: twenty eight from three, but also leading the finals in
Speaker 4: the sists, So he's still finding ways to be effective
Speaker 4: on the court. And I think the unsung hero. I
Speaker 4: think this guy's entire career. But obviously everyone knows how
Speaker 4: important and how talented he is. Drew Holliday right now,
Speaker 4: you know, front runner, it's early for front runner for
Speaker 4: finals MVP averaging nineteen and ten and four on sixty
Speaker 4: five from the field and forty four from the three
Speaker 4: point line and guarding Luka and Kyrie Jack. What has
Speaker 4: jumped out to you so far in these first two
Speaker 4: games from either side of the floor.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, we talk about all the
Speaker 1: time about the shots that Dallas was making in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals. Well, I understand that those shots are
Speaker 1: different in the finals. The level the every possession counts.
Speaker 1: Everybody that can make shots in the West Conference Finals
Speaker 1: might not be able to make them in the finals
Speaker 1: because just because of what the game means and and
Speaker 1: everything that's on the line.
Speaker 3: But you got to give Boston. You got to give
Speaker 3: Boston credit with their defense, right.
Speaker 1: I think we talk about all the time about taking
Speaker 1: loving guys that take pride in defense, where Ju Holley
Speaker 1: has been that guy from day one. He's been that
Speaker 1: on every team. He's been a guy that takes pride
Speaker 1: on playning defense. And he understands you can't stop Kyrie,
Speaker 1: but you can make it difficult. And what Drew is doing,
Speaker 1: he's taking away things that we know Kyrie loves to
Speaker 1: do best, the direction he likes to go all the time.
Speaker 3: You just ain't stopping him.
Speaker 1: He just making the difficult for him because you can't
Speaker 1: stop a guy like Kyrie Kyrie, but Drew is doing
Speaker 1: the best job you possibly could do.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Dallas, guys, they're getting those same open shots they was
Speaker 1: getting the West Conference Finals, Matt, they're just not making them.
Speaker 3: They just they're just not knocking them down.
Speaker 1: So if like, like like Phil said, if they can
Speaker 1: go home tonight and and do something different, which which
Speaker 1: is gonna be hard to see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's always good sleeping in your own bed, waking up,
Speaker 1: shooting on your own rims. It always feels better, but
Speaker 1: whether the level of the game and what's on the
Speaker 1: line right that what's on the line right now, you
Speaker 1: can't change that. So you some people barbecue meill Do
Speaker 1: in these moments, and it's the perfect time to see
Speaker 1: who's gonna barbecue meill Do?
Speaker 4: Game three, well, I mean, I think obviously too role
Speaker 4: players historically, their numbers are better at home, and and
Speaker 4: you will say, obviously Dallas is led by Kyrie and
Speaker 4: and Luca, but their role players have been tremendous, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So their little off rhythm right now,
Speaker 4: off focus. So I think possibly getting back on rhythm
Speaker 4: at home is going to be be an official I
Speaker 4: don't know if either you two saw it, but I
Speaker 4: saw a clip yesterday and obviously it's a little older,
Speaker 4: but Drew Holliday in the summertime, and they showed about
Speaker 4: six or seven clips of him just guarding people one
Speaker 4: on one, completely locking them down. Phil for two questions. One,
Speaker 4: have you had a chance to work with Drew and
Speaker 4: they looked like it was up at Sports Academy? Have
Speaker 4: you seen or worked with other players that really in
Speaker 4: the offseason train their defensive game as well? As their
Speaker 4: offensive game.
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't, man, you don't see you see
Speaker 5: a lot of guys will play one on one in
Speaker 5: the offseason, Matt, you know so. Look I've seen Drew
Speaker 5: here every summer at some point you know where he
Speaker 5: gets in the gym, he works on his game. But
Speaker 5: not only is he working on a game. At some
Speaker 5: point in the summer, Man, you saw those clips. He
Speaker 5: likes to play a lot of one on one, you know,
Speaker 5: where he can again continue to improve his game on
Speaker 5: both sides of the ball. Look, you think, think about
Speaker 5: when we were growing up as kids, right, all we
Speaker 5: did was what play one on one? That's all we did.
Speaker 5: Growing up. You played a lot of one on one
Speaker 5: against your friends, against your brother, whoever it was. So
Speaker 5: that put you in a position and where not only
Speaker 5: were you working on your offensive game, but you had
Speaker 5: to learn how to guard people. There was nobody else around,
Speaker 5: so you had to be monoy mono and have that.
Speaker 5: I think today's player they missed that.
Speaker 3: A lot.
Speaker 5: A lot of guys don't like to compete in the
Speaker 5: summertime in that sense of well, let me be on
Speaker 5: the island. Let me see if I can stay in
Speaker 5: front of three or four different cats in the summertime
Speaker 5: and really work on my individual game. And that's what
Speaker 5: you see from Drew. Drew was just Drew's old school man.
Speaker 5: I'm happy. I'm happy for this kid. I think Boston
Speaker 5: in the sense that Boston won, they won the trade,
Speaker 5: they won the whole trade games with that trade with Drew.
Speaker 5: I said it last year. I was like, oh man,
Speaker 5: this is made for TV. If Drew and the Boston
Speaker 5: Celtics played the Milwaukee Bucks in the Eastern Conference Finals,
Speaker 5: that's just it's too good. But you know before that kid, man,
Speaker 5: what you see from him, like Stack said Kyrie is
Speaker 5: is probably we've all had the argument, arguably the most
Speaker 5: skilled player to ever play, can you stop him? No,
Speaker 5: but you can certainly make it hard for him and
Speaker 5: make it difficult for him to make the shots that
Speaker 5: he likes to make. And that's what you've seen from
Speaker 5: game to game one and two from Drew in terms
Speaker 5: of just let me make it difficult for this dude, man,
Speaker 5: let me limit his ability to get to his spot.
Speaker 5: Can I make him take a shot one or two
Speaker 5: feet further away from the paint that he normally gets to?
Speaker 5: And I just see you see a guy that's really
Speaker 5: locked in. But Drew's always been like that though right
Speaker 5: follow his career. Man Drew has always been a dude
Speaker 5: that's been both sides of the ball. So you want
Speaker 5: to talk about two way players, he's the best two
Speaker 5: way player in the league. Like being able to guard,
Speaker 5: being able to play, and look, people forget about his
Speaker 5: scoring because he's on Boston. Man, Drew's a bucket. Don't
Speaker 5: get it twisted. That man has been a bucket his
Speaker 5: whole career. But he's he's accepted the role of let
Speaker 5: me kind of put my offense to the side and
Speaker 5: let me be this guy that Boston needs me to
Speaker 5: be so we can win this ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean we've been saying that's just since
Speaker 4: we started the show was five years ago. Jack, I mean,
Speaker 4: the most underrated player in the game. Obviously, I don't
Speaker 4: think he's underrated. I think people are finally starting to see,
Speaker 4: you know, with him going to Milwaukee and now with Boston,
Speaker 4: I mean, what he's been able to bring. But like Phil,
Speaker 4: we've been knowing this, We've been seeing this ship. They
Speaker 4: knew it. You know, it might be new to some
Speaker 4: people because they didn't get to see him to play
Speaker 4: on the biggest stage. But he's been doing this. There's
Speaker 4: been thirty six instances in Finals history where team's gone
Speaker 4: down two five teams have ever come back and won
Speaker 4: the Finals. Phil, you were on the staff in sixteen
Speaker 4: that was down, you know, three to one, was able
Speaker 4: to come back and change the game. In that locker
Speaker 4: room at that time, was there a shifting point? Was
Speaker 4: it coaches? Wasn't more players? What was the focus in
Speaker 4: the attention to detail to kind of flip the switch
Speaker 4: for that sixteen tremendous turnaround?
Speaker 5: Man, I'll started with t Lou like t Lou was,
Speaker 5: he was just calm, right, Teelu and bron Man, they
Speaker 5: were so calm. After I think it was game four, right,
Speaker 5: we were in Cleveland and the Warriors beat us game
Speaker 5: four and we went down three to one. We got
Speaker 5: into that locker room. Telu's message was there was no panic.
Speaker 5: The locker room is actually pretty pretty calm, pretty quiet, guys.
Speaker 5: Nobody had their head down. But the message that Tlu
Speaker 5: gave to the team immediately was listen, we got one
Speaker 5: game to focus on. If you guys don't think we
Speaker 5: can go to Golden State and win this next game,
Speaker 5: do not get on the plane. Those were his exact words,
Speaker 5: and Bron had the same sentiment. And I think the
Speaker 5: whole shift, right was obviously when people think about when
Speaker 5: you're down three to one, you start thinking about all
Speaker 5: the other games. There's only one thing that you need
Speaker 5: to think about, and that's the next game. How do
Speaker 5: we win this next game? That's it. That was one
Speaker 5: of the major things that people. People don't understand when
Speaker 5: you're in that kind of a hole. Man, just one
Speaker 5: game at a time. So we went, we got on
Speaker 5: that plane. I think some of the adjustments we made,
Speaker 5: we played Richard Jefferson more. Richard Jefferson was on the floor,
Speaker 5: and we may have if I'm thinking correctly, we may
Speaker 5: have even started Richard game five. He might have started
Speaker 5: in place with Kevin Love. Kevin had a little bit
Speaker 5: of an injury. I don't want to miss quote, but
Speaker 5: I believe Kevin had an injury. We might have started
Speaker 5: Richard in game five, which was at that time, and
Speaker 5: Richard was just a plug and play guy for us.
Speaker 5: You know, he could he could stress the floor, he
Speaker 5: could guard multiple positions, and keV accepted it and came
Speaker 5: off the bench. Game five still played well, but obviously
Speaker 5: Kyrie and Bron they carried a major load in that
Speaker 5: Game five series, and that was the real focus, right.
Speaker 5: We didn't think about nothing else. We have to win
Speaker 5: Game five and that just kind of carried us the
Speaker 5: rest of that the rest of that series. They played
Speaker 5: that Game five. When we got back to Cleveland, man,
Speaker 5: we all knew if we get back to Cleveland, our
Speaker 5: fans are gonna help us carry this thing to Game seven.
Speaker 5: And it was, man, Cleveland was rocking. That place was nuts,
Speaker 5: And the biggest thing was just the mindset, right, mindset,
Speaker 5: have some belief. Yeah, we're in this hole, we'll have
Speaker 5: some belief. Golden State's a great team. But we felt
Speaker 5: like we were a great team too, And the guys
Speaker 5: were just locked in. Man, they were locked in for
Speaker 5: Game five to do whatever it took to win win
Speaker 5: that game.
Speaker 4: So you guys go home, obviously had the crowd behind
Speaker 4: you Game six, get that win. What's that locker room
Speaker 4: like pregame Game seven in the bay, I'm sure you
Speaker 4: guys are just full of cups.
Speaker 5: Well, even before we got the game seven, Matt, there's
Speaker 5: a story of t Lou. Tlu puts some money he
Speaker 5: puts some money in up to one of the rafters,
Speaker 5: you know the remember the old collegeum tlu puts some
Speaker 5: money up in one of the rafters and said, look, man,
Speaker 5: I'm leaving this money here. We coming back here for
Speaker 5: game seven. This money gonna be here.
Speaker 4: When we did that, after what game five?
Speaker 5: It was game four game excuse me, I can't remember
Speaker 5: what game it was. But he put that money. He
Speaker 5: put that money in the rafters, and we had to
Speaker 5: go back to Cleveland and win game six, and we
Speaker 5: had to come back for game seven. But the locker
Speaker 5: room motivation, like I said, started way before that, man,
Speaker 5: and the mentality of just taking it one game at
Speaker 5: a time, it carried over when we got to game six.
Speaker 5: We weren't thinking about game seven. All we were thinking
Speaker 5: about today. Man, we're here in Cleveland. We got to
Speaker 5: take care of this game. Let's handle business first. Keep
Speaker 5: your mind, keep your mind locked on what's in front
Speaker 5: of you. And that was all we thought about. But
Speaker 5: when we got to we got back to Golden State
Speaker 5: for game seven, you know, all Tlew and bron and
Speaker 5: the rest of the guys who talked to Bat was like, man,
Speaker 5: this is what you play for. This is what you
Speaker 5: live for. Game seven in the NBA Finals right now,
Speaker 5: it's anybody's game. Anything can happen. And the main thing
Speaker 5: was just go out and play. And I remember the
Speaker 5: game seven, man, we had a decent first half. I
Speaker 5: think we were down eight at the locker room and
Speaker 5: we came into the locker room and Tilu was just like, look, man,
Speaker 5: we got twenty four minutes. Somebody in this all of you,
Speaker 5: some of you, somebody in this locker room got stepped up.
Speaker 5: We came out of the locker room.
Speaker 3: I think j R.
Speaker 5: Smith scored the first eight points kept us in the game,
Speaker 5: and that was just something that was huge for us
Speaker 5: because he made big shots at the beginning of the
Speaker 5: third quarter. And from that point on, man, it was
Speaker 5: just what it was, back and forth. One point game,
Speaker 5: two point game. And it was that game came down
Speaker 5: to the final final four minutes. Nobody was really scoring.
Speaker 5: You know, then you have bron with the block, you
Speaker 5: got Kyrie with the shot, and then you got Kevin
Speaker 5: Love with the stop. You know those three possessions, man,
Speaker 5: or what what kind of sealed that deal for us
Speaker 5: in that game seven?
Speaker 4: Jack as a as a score yourself put yourself. In
Speaker 4: Kyrie Sho's first two games back in Boston hostile crowd
Speaker 4: obviously struggled for teen points in Game thirty six from
Speaker 4: the field. What is your mindset, knowing that you're going
Speaker 4: back home and that the team really needs you to score?
Speaker 4: How do you get yourself going in those situations? If
Speaker 4: you're in that situation, Well, my.
Speaker 1: Luggage consist of a toiletry bag. Kyrie consists of Lewis luggage,
Speaker 1: all kind of Gucci luggage, you name it, go yard.
Speaker 3: He got every type of luggage you got. So I
Speaker 3: ain't have all that.
Speaker 1: But what I can say, Kyrie has enough intelligence on
Speaker 1: the court to switch up his luggage and pack a
Speaker 1: different bag.
Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna come to that. I think
Speaker 3: he gonna come to the game tonight.
Speaker 1: If I was him, I catched the ball to the basketball,
Speaker 1: I start using my post game on Drew Drews moves
Speaker 1: his feet more than anybody, But Kyrie has one of
Speaker 1: the best shooting guard point goings post games we've ever seen.
Speaker 3: So if I was Kyrie, I wouldn't work so hard.
Speaker 1: I started catching the ball a little close to the basket,
Speaker 1: lay off the pick and rolls I only do the
Speaker 1: pick and rolls and transition. But in half court, I
Speaker 1: catch the ball on the block where I can look
Speaker 1: to seehere the double come from and give my one
Speaker 1: two jump two dribble jumple go.
Speaker 4: That's different putting the PG on the block. But if
Speaker 4: there's any PG in the game that could do that,
Speaker 4: it's him.
Speaker 5: That's part of his luggage. That's stack say, that's part
Speaker 5: of his luggage.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Phil, I'm putting it out here because I know
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen in the future. You're down, Oh two man,
Speaker 4: you're going back home? Oh team the finals. What's your
Speaker 4: message to your team? Ah?
Speaker 5: Man, listen they the main message is right, they took
Speaker 5: care of business again, like we talked about. You know,
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people want to get all
Speaker 5: get all hectic and start panicking. They won their first
Speaker 5: two games at home. They did what they were supposed
Speaker 5: to do. Can we go and steal one, that's the mission?
Speaker 5: But all right, we didn't steal one. Now we're at home.
Speaker 5: Our job is to take care of home court. Message
Speaker 5: is simple, man, like right, don't get over you know,
Speaker 5: never too high, never too low where That's why it's
Speaker 5: a seven game series. Now we're at home for Game three.
Speaker 5: Let's lock in and take care of business at home.
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing for Kai, Look, man, Kai
Speaker 5: is a bucket. Kay is a champion. People forget that too.
Speaker 5: Kay's got a lot of he got a lot of
Speaker 5: NBA Finals experience. He's been down two before, He's been
Speaker 5: down three to one before. Right, think the thing for
Speaker 5: Kai Drew is a He's just a dynamic defender. How
Speaker 5: much can you get Drew off of his body? Right?
Speaker 5: Stack talk about taking him to the post? You know,
Speaker 5: I would he be in the sense of you know,
Speaker 5: Dallas has kind of played their style of Basketball's got
Speaker 5: him to this point. They got two of the best
Speaker 5: closers in the game. How do you get Drew off
Speaker 5: of Kyrie's body?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: I want to bring some of these other guys into
Speaker 5: the matchup. Let me put a lesser defender. Can I
Speaker 5: come set some screens? Let me get make him switch,
Speaker 5: you know, make some of these other guys have to
Speaker 5: guard Kyrie that don't guard the way Drew do, so
Speaker 5: that that gives him the ability to, like Stack say it,
Speaker 5: not to have to work so hard against an elite defender.
Speaker 5: But let me take one of these other guys. He
Speaker 5: might be a good defender, but he's not Drew Holliday, right,
Speaker 5: So how can I bring some of these other guys
Speaker 5: that don't defend as well into the action to where
Speaker 5: now I can give Kyrie some freedom? How can I
Speaker 5: set some off ball screens for him to allow him
Speaker 5: to run freely without the ball and catch the ball
Speaker 5: to live dribble. I think there's all kinds of different
Speaker 5: things that that Dallas can do that's inside the system,
Speaker 5: that you can get Drew off of his body, that
Speaker 5: will allow him to kind of free up and play
Speaker 5: against lesser defenders a little bit more.
Speaker 3: We have a different series.
Speaker 4: This is justin Jack, go and break the news, bro.
Speaker 1: We have a different series. Celtis Chris stopp persingis so
Speaker 1: for the torn media, I can't say that word, but
Speaker 1: that ismes that word. I don't allow allowing dislocation of
Speaker 1: the posteria to Belisses tendon, whatever that is.
Speaker 3: It ain't good for Boston because they needed that.
Speaker 4: Oh Man to the ship. So that's down. I mean
Speaker 4: that started with the calf.
Speaker 1: Then I'm guessing the posterior Tiberlis tended Tiberlis tendon.
Speaker 5: Both of y'all been in the finals back in your
Speaker 5: cabin the back of your calf.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 3: I always heard of the finals.
Speaker 5: Man, but but but we've all been like, the injuries
Speaker 5: are just that is everybody. Look, man, I've been on
Speaker 5: both sides of it. I've been on the winning side
Speaker 5: guys have been injured, and I've been on the losing
Speaker 5: side were guys have been injured in that part right there. Yeah, ooh,
Speaker 5: that's a game changer. That's a that's a game changer.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is obviously unfortunately because and Jack, we
Speaker 4: talked about this coming in. You know, these calves are
Speaker 4: are are tricky. This similar to with KD. KD tried
Speaker 4: to push through uh, you know, in that Toronto ship
Speaker 4: and unfortunately Tours Achilles. We're hoping this isn't as bad
Speaker 4: for for Zingis, but I mean he's out now due
Speaker 4: to the you know, it's and it started with the
Speaker 4: calf strength. So this completely changes the trajectory the energy
Speaker 4: of this series. And you know, Dallas has to take
Speaker 4: advantage of this.
Speaker 1: Matt we three game uh, I think game two or
Speaker 1: three dirt go down in the West Conference Finals in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I guess when I was with the Spurs. You think
Speaker 1: that didn't help us in that series? Bro, that's big,
Speaker 1: that's big. That's big. But that's big for Dallas. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying Dallas should be like, oh yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: win now because of poor niggas. But that's that's a
Speaker 1: that's a big notch that somebody that you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about coming in giving ten to fifteen points
Speaker 1: in four or five blocks.
Speaker 3: He was changing a lot of shots for them.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Tim mcmannimon from ESPN. Missoula says this is
Speaker 4: a serious injury and the Celtics medical team would make
Speaker 4: the decision about Porzingis's availability, doing anything and everything he
Speaker 4: can to be able to play. Missoula said, and this
Speaker 4: is I don't like this. I just don't like this.
Speaker 4: And obviously it's the finals and we've all you know,
Speaker 4: been players and and and feel you're on the coaching
Speaker 4: side now. But I think this is a sign right here,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And as bad as this
Speaker 4: championship is to this team, do you risk this guy's
Speaker 4: possibly furthering further damaging his body?
Speaker 3: Jack?
Speaker 5: You know, you know, man, I mean you know, look,
Speaker 5: certain guys, right you make it to this point in
Speaker 5: your career, you in the finals, You're gonna do everything
Speaker 5: you can to play. So it might not even be medical, right.
Speaker 5: It could be the medical saying no and he's like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm playing.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: Sometimes, Matt, You guys we've all played with players. You
Speaker 5: guys are built like that too, right, You you go
Speaker 5: through your whole career and you're gonna give every opportunity
Speaker 5: and I'm trying to play. I'm gonna try to play.
Speaker 5: You know, you never know if you're gonna get back.
Speaker 5: So it's a combination. I think it's a combination. Man,
Speaker 5: depends on what kind of mindset Christoph's has and where
Speaker 5: he is, knowing his body.
Speaker 4: He's been injury ridden. Not to cut you off, feel
Speaker 4: he's someone who struggled with injury throughout his career. We've seen,
Speaker 4: you know, the ups and downs and forty of his journey,
Speaker 4: and when he's healthy, he truly is a unicorn. Jack
Speaker 4: your thoughts with what we just heard on the injury
Speaker 4: and then now that he's still trying to push through
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 1: And he pushed so hard to be able to play
Speaker 1: in the finals remember they were talking about he wouldn't
Speaker 1: play Game one to two, but that extra time gave them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, gave him a littit more
Speaker 1: time to rest.
Speaker 3: He don't have that time now.
Speaker 1: The rest, you know, it's every other day thing. And
Speaker 1: like like like coach, like Phil said, either you got
Speaker 1: it or you don't.
Speaker 3: Everybody's hurt it the season.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's unfortunate because his injury is way more serious.
Speaker 1: But at this point of the season, Bro, I think
Speaker 1: if you can't actually give your team a good effort
Speaker 1: out there where you're not where you're helping the team
Speaker 1: and not hurting them, you play. But if it's a
Speaker 1: possibility that you can hurt yourself going to next season
Speaker 1: and hurt the team, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 3: Just sit out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just God being there too. I mean, this
Speaker 4: change is completely changing. If he's out, this changes the
Speaker 4: directory trajectory.
Speaker 5: Of well, you know what though, Matt like like, if
Speaker 5: he's out, look, Dallas can't relax. Like again, I've been
Speaker 5: in that at all, Like like when I was in Toronto. Look,
Speaker 5: all of those guys got hurt, Kadie got hurt, Clay
Speaker 5: got hurt, and the only thing I kept saying, we
Speaker 5: still have to win these games, and you still got
Speaker 5: to play, right, There is no why those dudes are hurt.
Speaker 5: We still got to go win the games. And so
Speaker 5: that's the mindset that Dallas has to be in, Like,
Speaker 5: all right, they wont man down who's been a big part,
Speaker 5: they still got to go do their part.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, it's a wounded dog transitioning our girl Juju.
Speaker 4: You've had her in the lab. I got a chance
Speaker 4: to see her play for the first time live this
Speaker 4: season at SC and when I tell you, first of all,
Speaker 4: nineteen for nineteen from the or eighteen for eighteen for
Speaker 4: the free throw line. The way she got it to
Speaker 4: her ship fell and got to her spots and would
Speaker 4: pull and use the glass in the mid range and
Speaker 4: fade off the double out of the day. It was
Speaker 4: scary to think that she's really only I think she's
Speaker 4: only eighteen or nineteen, like she's a young freshman, but
Speaker 4: her game is very grown. So you know, as you guys,
Speaker 4: you know you get opportunity to work with her. Have
Speaker 4: you worked with her in the past, first, and what
Speaker 4: kind of stuff do you guys work on when you
Speaker 4: guys are in there together. Man.
Speaker 5: I've been working with Juju since she was a I
Speaker 5: think freshman in high school. We go back years, we
Speaker 5: go back some time. Man. I've known Juju for for
Speaker 5: some years and we've we've had a chance to build
Speaker 5: a great relationship. She's a killer, bro, she is a
Speaker 5: straight up killer. But but the thing I love about
Speaker 5: her is one her parents. You know, Bobby and Sure,
Speaker 5: her parents are phenomenal. They've done a great job of
Speaker 5: just raising her. Her dad has done a great job
Speaker 5: of like working with her on shooting and just kind
Speaker 5: of giving her a fundamental base. And then her humility.
Speaker 5: Like people talk about her basketball game. You ever around
Speaker 5: Juju off the court, man, her humility is unreal, like
Speaker 5: the kind of person she is, so that carries over
Speaker 5: into her approach to the game, like her attitude that
Speaker 5: come to the game. She's trying to learn, man. She
Speaker 5: wants to be great. She wants to understand the nuances
Speaker 5: of Man, how do I be great? How do I
Speaker 5: beat double teams? You know, teams are trying to force
Speaker 5: me are how do I get better at this? What
Speaker 5: does my base look like in the post? Like she asked?
Speaker 5: She asked so many questions to make sure that she's
Speaker 5: like really trying to get her game right. And then
Speaker 5: I just love the fact that for her, man, her
Speaker 5: star just took off, but she's still the same kid
Speaker 5: that she was, you know, back in the ninth grade.
Speaker 5: Like so for me, just all of those intangibles we
Speaker 5: talk about what we see on the court. She's just
Speaker 5: a good human being that's super talented at basketball. And
Speaker 5: I just think mat she's still scratching the surface. She
Speaker 5: still has so much more.
Speaker 4: She's still a baby.
Speaker 5: Watch her like right now. Look, she's super skilled, she
Speaker 5: can play, but when she starts to think the game
Speaker 5: and understand the game from a more IQ point, then
Speaker 5: they're really gonna be in trouble. That's what it's really
Speaker 5: gonna be scary for for the next level, because she's
Speaker 5: just now entering into that realm of really starting to
Speaker 5: understand the nuance a game. How do I read defenses?
Speaker 5: All of that stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's going to be a beautiful thing to
Speaker 4: continue to see her grow and obviously wish her the best.
Speaker 4: What's your observation right now of the women's game the media.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'm someone who says, you know,
Speaker 4: as you ask for growth, and you get growth, you
Speaker 4: can't pick and choose what parts come with it, because
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of bullshit and dumb things said,
Speaker 4: and a lot of how people just had a lot
Speaker 4: of just dumb like come on, like what are you
Speaker 4: talking about moments. But you know, overall feels someone you've
Speaker 4: trained men and women some of the best in the world. Obviously,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk right now about you know,
Speaker 4: Caitlyn not making the Olympic team. So I want to
Speaker 4: open up the floor to both of you guys. But
Speaker 4: before I do, you know, you think back to the
Speaker 4: men's game, and there's been times with the Dream Team
Speaker 4: where they put later on and I remember early on
Speaker 4: they were putting ad on those teams when he wasn't
Speaker 4: necessarily ready. So you look at it from that stump
Speaker 4: point of view. But at the same time, when I
Speaker 4: look at that twelve women roster for that team currently,
Speaker 4: there's not a person that you know, the Caitlyn is
Speaker 4: technically okay, yeah, Caitlyn, but you can't say that. You know,
Speaker 4: they got some dogs and there was still some real snubs.
Speaker 4: I forgot the girl's name, but she's the second leading
Speaker 4: scorer in the league. She was you know, she was
Speaker 4: someone that possibly could have been on that team. So
Speaker 4: what are your guys' thoughts on just the the energy
Speaker 4: around the game and particularly you know, this Olympic team selection.
Speaker 5: Look, man, I'm heavily engrossed in the women's game, Matt,
Speaker 5: just just on the on the high school level and
Speaker 5: the pro level. You know, I've worked with I've worked
Speaker 5: with Jewel Lloyd for years, so I've had a chance
Speaker 5: to really see the women's game up close. Look, man,
Speaker 5: I think the first thing that people make a mistake
Speaker 5: is they don't look at these women as athletes. That's
Speaker 5: first and foremost. You know, stop talking about women's basketball.
Speaker 5: These they are athletes. Like these these women are hoopers.
Speaker 5: They go and hoop, they go and train, they go
Speaker 5: and prepare themselves just like we do, right, just like
Speaker 5: you guys did, so under standing at their athletes. First,
Speaker 5: you know, the growth of the game women, the women's
Speaker 5: game is about to be on a massive explosion, and
Speaker 5: Kaitlin the kid Angel reach the whole that whole college
Speaker 5: program them some of them lasers just came in, they
Speaker 5: had them. They play a major role in just the
Speaker 5: growth of the game. You know, the don Staleys of
Speaker 5: the world. What's going on down in South college basketball
Speaker 5: is helping the women's game grow exponentially. So the whole
Speaker 5: thing that you see with Kaitlyn Man, She's got a
Speaker 5: fan base, she got a real fan base that is
Speaker 5: coming from Indiana, but now it's worldwide. And so the
Speaker 5: growth of the women's game, like you said, Matt, it's
Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna come with good and bad. But when
Speaker 5: they're talking about you, that's what you want. Now the
Speaker 5: women's game is getting major, major, major attention on every
Speaker 5: news outlet. You know, you want some of it to
Speaker 5: calm down, some of this chatter, some of the things
Speaker 5: that are happening. I think those things will go away,
Speaker 5: you know. But but the focus is that these women
Speaker 5: can hoop. You know, they they are hoopers. The game
Speaker 5: is owing, the game is changing. Now you see a
Speaker 5: lot more women trying to dunk. Where is that? You know,
Speaker 5: where is that gonna lead to in the other arts
Speaker 5: parts of the game. But just can we treat them
Speaker 5: like athletes first and foremost? And then the whole thing
Speaker 5: with Kaylen make Taylor's time is coming. She knows it.
Speaker 5: What I love about her attitude is that she's like, Yo, man,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep working. I'mnna keep doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: I love the game. She loves to compete. Y'all want
Speaker 5: to take cheap shots at me, whatever, it's part of
Speaker 5: the game. I'm I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep hooping.
Speaker 5: I just love her attitude in the space that she
Speaker 5: understands that there's a competitive spirit to the game and
Speaker 5: she's gonna keep competing and trying to get better. So
Speaker 5: if it's not this Olympics is certainly the next one,
Speaker 5: she'll be there.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Jack your thoughts Obviously, we've discussed the women's game
Speaker 4: a lot, but what are your thoughts on the the
Speaker 4: I don't know if you even call the outrage. I
Speaker 4: don't know if you want to call it outrage. But
Speaker 4: you know, Caitlin not making this Olympic team, It's part.
Speaker 3: Of the game. Man, sh ain't the person go through.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be the l you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that That's that's just what I think about it.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: She everybody knows she's great. Everybody knows what she's doing
Speaker 1: for the game, which is tremendous. She's definitely one of
Speaker 1: a kind, But at the same time, when things don't
Speaker 1: go her way one time, we can't make it seem
Speaker 1: like it's the end of the world. She's been treated
Speaker 1: on fair when so many players has been treating a
Speaker 1: fair number of times. So it's just one incident, like
Speaker 1: coach said, just like you said, she'll be on the
Speaker 1: team a number of times. But I don't think it's
Speaker 1: just a big deal. I mean, those girls on this
Speaker 1: on that team deserve to be on their team. They've
Speaker 1: been carrying the WNBA for years and they and they
Speaker 1: and they also have experience on this team. So uh
Speaker 1: kudos to everybody that made it and Kingdom at that time,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: You said a perfect faeld. I mean, she knows her
Speaker 4: day is coming, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: think that's important as the media contrives to pick and
Speaker 4: choose and spend and throw shit out there. But one thing,
Speaker 4: and I love how you said, I wish it would
Speaker 4: come down. Let's just focus on the actual game, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: The highlights and Asia's numbers, and.
Speaker 4: She tired or tired or broke down or tarosite, if
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, thirteenth straight uh point games.
Speaker 3: What she's been able to do.
Speaker 4: But you know, my whole thing with this is, you know,
Speaker 4: whether people want to give the credit, whoever wants to
Speaker 4: get the credit go from Don Staley to this, this,
Speaker 4: this newer class. I'll just allowed that shit to be
Speaker 4: the vehicle to put eyes on what this game really is.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Let's forget who brought it.
Speaker 4: Let's just re met me. Now we're seeing what it
Speaker 4: is and continue to grow that and with that needs
Speaker 4: to leads to my next question. Where do you guys
Speaker 4: see this league in the next ten years? I know
Speaker 4: they've got a big collecting environment agreement coming up either
Speaker 4: this summer or the next summer. I'm not positive, but
Speaker 4: I know that's going to change with the new Herd.
Speaker 4: There's a big sponsor coming on board and new TV money.
Speaker 4: Where do you guys see this game at in the
Speaker 4: next ten years?
Speaker 1: Well, Phil, I'll just say this, I'll see the game
Speaker 1: feel and mat y'all tell me if I'm wrong for
Speaker 1: saying this, but I just and ten years from now,
Speaker 1: I want to see the game the WNBA being controlled.
Speaker 3: Ran and run by women. I want them to have
Speaker 3: their own game.
Speaker 1: We've had our own game, so for so long, and
Speaker 1: we made it so hard for women to be a
Speaker 1: part of our game in so many different aspects. You see,
Speaker 1: we just getting women CEOs to run teams stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Let them have their own league, let them referee, let
Speaker 1: them coach, let them do everything and have their own league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can get assistance from guys because you know, we
Speaker 1: know a lot about basketball as well. But I think
Speaker 1: for the most part, I think it should be a
Speaker 1: women dripping, women Made League, and I think they deserve that.
Speaker 5: Phil Man, it's coming ten years. I wouldn't even say
Speaker 5: ten years. I'm the next five years. The league is
Speaker 5: gonna have massive growth from the incomes to now they've
Speaker 5: they've they've switched over, and now the ladies are being
Speaker 5: able to Some of them are, you know, traveling private,
Speaker 5: which is a huge thing for them, right not having
Speaker 5: to walk through airports at five o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 5: being able to have their own chartter flights. You know,
Speaker 5: there's stepping stones that they're taking. I think the more
Speaker 5: visibility to get, the more the TV contracts are there.
Speaker 5: In five years time, man, I'm hoping to see that
Speaker 5: the w is doubling the contracts of these ladies, the coaches,
Speaker 5: anybody that's involved with the w Everybody experienced massive growth.
Speaker 5: I think in five years time, man, I think it's
Speaker 5: just gonna be you're gonna see another right, You're gonna
Speaker 5: see more what you're seeing this year sellout arenas right now,
Speaker 5: they're having to move venues. I think they moved the
Speaker 5: Caitlyn Cark game from a forty two hundred seat venue
Speaker 5: to the to the major venue is over twenty thousand
Speaker 5: people and they sold out. You're gonna see more of.
Speaker 4: That, and I just think they not to cut you off.
Speaker 4: Feel they said they sold When they went up to
Speaker 4: the new venue, sixteen thousand tickets were sold in thirty minutes.
Speaker 5: I mean, you see what I'm saying Like that, That's
Speaker 5: where it's headed the game. The game is only going
Speaker 5: to continue to grow for them on a major scale,
Speaker 5: and everybody's gonna be winners from it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Phil, We got to get you out
Speaker 4: of here soon. One more big question we wanted to ask. Obviously,
Speaker 4: the NBA International takeover is here, and you know the
Speaker 4: number of consecutive international MVPs the game is obviously growing.
Speaker 4: I think this is David Stern's vision the whole time
Speaker 4: was to grow to a global game. The global game
Speaker 4: is here. Is there as someone who trains kids to pros?
Speaker 4: Is there anything you can put your finger on? That
Speaker 4: is why there's been such an influce and talent and
Speaker 4: kind of almost and this is not a disrespectful which
Speaker 4: is what it is. Yeah, water water down on the
Speaker 4: on the American side.
Speaker 5: Look, man, a lot of people I played. I played
Speaker 5: eight years in Europe my career career. But people don't
Speaker 5: understand their system of youth basketball is totally different. So
Speaker 5: you look at guys like Luca, you look at guys
Speaker 5: like Jokics, the Tony Parker's even Wimby, right, you take
Speaker 5: just you can go back and look at the history
Speaker 5: of guys from Europe that have come into the States.
Speaker 5: These guys are playing pro basketball when they're sixteen seventeen
Speaker 5: years old, right, So most of our sixteen seventeen year
Speaker 5: olds is still in high school. Their system of.
Speaker 4: A freshman too, by the way, six yeah, seventeen year
Speaker 4: old freshman, which is fucking yeah, go ahead, that's another.
Speaker 5: So their system, right, what they do the club teams,
Speaker 5: the youth team, every pro team, they have junior teams,
Speaker 5: and then those junior teams. These kids are already learning
Speaker 5: how to one be a pro what's the schedule like?
Speaker 5: They're learning how to be in a sense of just
Speaker 5: learning how to play pro basketball. So their advancement in
Speaker 5: the team concept. They may not be better individual players,
Speaker 5: so to speak with, they may not be as athletic
Speaker 5: or skilled as some of the kids that we have here,
Speaker 5: but they know how to play the game. There's a difference.
Speaker 5: There is a huge difference in terms of what we're
Speaker 5: doing in the AAU culture. Not every AAU program is bad,
Speaker 5: but if the AAU culture would take more more of
Speaker 5: a stance of how do we develop our players one
Speaker 5: not only individually, but how do we develop them and
Speaker 5: understand how to play basketball off the ball, on the ball,
Speaker 5: pick and roll, reads, the passing game. You know, I
Speaker 5: just went to Italy to watch the Adidas Adidas Real
Speaker 5: camp for all the top prospects. You could tell the
Speaker 5: difference between the European teams. The you that ball was popping, popping,
Speaker 5: the ball did not move. We had the you know,
Speaker 5: young American teams, very talented, but their style of play
Speaker 5: was different. Everything was you know, let me break my
Speaker 5: man down. Can I create on my own. There is
Speaker 5: a time and a place for that. You got to
Speaker 5: have it. But understanding just how to play the game.
Speaker 5: So this is why you see a lot of European
Speaker 5: kids when they come into the league. Yes, again they
Speaker 5: may not be as individually talented as are players here,
Speaker 5: but they understand how to play. You can plug them
Speaker 5: into a system, most of them, and they don't fit.
Speaker 5: They don't They're not out of place. They play with pace,
Speaker 5: they play with speed, they make quick decisions right, all
Speaker 5: of these things which are really important to the game.
Speaker 5: That's the difference. We still have so much talent here
Speaker 5: in this country. But I always tell people because I
Speaker 5: do spend a lot of time with youth, the youth
Speaker 5: coaches in this country are the most important coaches in
Speaker 5: the world. Why because they set the foundation of what
Speaker 5: they're teaching these young athletes right. How they teach them
Speaker 5: that's so important, man. And then they either have the
Speaker 5: ability to make them play, making want to continue to play,
Speaker 5: or they make them want to quit. So the youth
Speaker 5: coaches have a huge responsibility. If you want to be
Speaker 5: a youth coach, you better learn the game, learn how
Speaker 5: to teach, not just learn how to teach your athletes
Speaker 5: how to drive, but learn how to teach them how
Speaker 5: to play within a system. That's what you're seeing, man,
Speaker 5: and that's why these guys are coming into into the
Speaker 5: NBA and they're just a little bit more polished on
Speaker 5: the whole scheme of the game, right, That's what's happening, man.
Speaker 4: Yep, Phil, before we get you out of here, Swiss
Speaker 4: cultures speak to what you're trying to do in the
Speaker 4: content space and where that idea came about.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: As Swiss coaches, Man, I want to say, I kind
Speaker 5: of been with Swiss coachures since their very beginning, you know,
Speaker 5: I did. I've known Swiss coaches going back to two
Speaker 5: thousand and fourteen when they were you know, a really
Speaker 5: small online presence. I met Jordan and you know, he
Speaker 5: invited them to the gym and now to see, man,
Speaker 5: what they've done and grown into is phenomenal.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm not really a guy that's really trying to
Speaker 5: beat into the content space, but you know, I do
Speaker 5: have an online presence, you know from my Instagram and
Speaker 5: some of the things I do with my app. I'm
Speaker 5: always all about just sharing the knowledge that I have.
Speaker 3: Matt stack.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people people look at me
Speaker 5: as just quote unquote player development coach man, but I've
Speaker 5: been I've been doing head coach stuff in my role
Speaker 5: for the last four or five years, so my knowledge
Speaker 5: of the game goes way beyond player development. So some
Speaker 5: of the stuff I just love to watch. Right I'm free.
Speaker 5: This is the first time I've been this free in
Speaker 5: my career, so being able to sit down and watch
Speaker 5: some of the games that are going on, and I
Speaker 5: get enjoyment out of breaking down certain actions, being able
Speaker 5: to see certain things, and then maybe just help people
Speaker 5: understand some of the other nuances of the game, what
Speaker 5: goes on within the game. So some of these things
Speaker 5: that I'm doing with Swiss coaches really just to kind
Speaker 5: of share share missing piece of knowledge, help people have
Speaker 5: more in depth understanding of what's really going on with
Speaker 5: players are looking at, what are they seeing, how are
Speaker 5: they setting up their movements? You know, just to kind
Speaker 5: of give people a little bit more more insight on
Speaker 5: what the game is doing from a higher level.
Speaker 4: Well, I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it. Phil.
Speaker 4: Thank you for continuing to share your knowledge and bless
Speaker 4: us with your knowledge because there is a lot over
Speaker 4: there you know, obviously a free agent right now, so
Speaker 4: best of luck. I know you'll land on your feet.
Speaker 4: You're one of the brightest minds in this game, so
Speaker 4: definitely looking forward to seeing where you land. Man, so
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Thank you for your time, and we will
Speaker 4: talk soon.
Speaker 3: Hey, Phil, I appreciate you. Bro.
Speaker 1: My son just graduated high school, so I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: him my de.
Speaker 3: Man, he need that blessing.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, we're here. We're here. Man. I appreciate
Speaker 5: what you guys are doing.
Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you. Peel. You ain't never told me though,
Speaker 3: so you my guy.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, that's a wrap unplugged. You can catch
Speaker 4: us on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network.
Speaker 4: We'll see y'all next week.