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Speaker 3: Jack, how are you, bro? I'm good? My boy was

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Speaker 1: It was a beautiful wedding of the most extravagant wedding

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Speaker 5: It's always a pleasure to be here with you guys. Man,

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Speaker 5: Man, this year has been It's been an interesting finals.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean we've been saying that's just since

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Speaker 5: Well, even before we got the game seven, Matt, there's

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Speaker 4: How do you get yourself going in those situations? If

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Speaker 4: you're in that situation, Well, my.

439
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: Luggage consist of a toiletry bag. Kyrie consists of Lewis luggage,

440
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: all kind of Gucci luggage, you name it, go yard.

441
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 3: He got every type of luggage you got. So I

442
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 3: ain't have all that.

443
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: But what I can say, Kyrie has enough intelligence on

444
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: the court to switch up his luggage and pack a

445
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: different bag.

446
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna come to that. I think

447
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: he gonna come to the game tonight.

448
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: If I was him, I catched the ball to the basketball,

449
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: I start using my post game on Drew Drews moves

450
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: his feet more than anybody, But Kyrie has one of

451
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: the best shooting guard point goings post games we've ever seen.

452
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 3: So if I was Kyrie, I wouldn't work so hard.

453
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: I started catching the ball a little close to the basket,

454
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: lay off the pick and rolls I only do the

455
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: pick and rolls and transition. But in half court, I

456
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: catch the ball on the block where I can look

457
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: to seehere the double come from and give my one

458
00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 1: two jump two dribble jumple go.

459
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 4: That's different putting the PG on the block. But if

460
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 4: there's any PG in the game that could do that,

461
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 4: it's him.

462
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 5: That's part of his luggage. That's stack say, that's part

463
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 5: of his luggage.

464
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Phil, I'm putting it out here because I know

465
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen in the future. You're down, Oh two man,

466
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: you're going back home? Oh team the finals. What's your

467
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 4: message to your team? Ah?

468
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 5: Man, listen they the main message is right, they took

469
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 5: care of business again, like we talked about. You know,

470
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,479
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people want to get all

471
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 5: get all hectic and start panicking. They won their first

472
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 5: two games at home. They did what they were supposed

473
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Speaker 5: to do. Can we go and steal one, that's the mission?

474
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 5: But all right, we didn't steal one. Now we're at home.

475
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 5: Our job is to take care of home court. Message

476
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 5: is simple, man, like right, don't get over you know,

477
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 5: never too high, never too low where That's why it's

478
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 5: a seven game series. Now we're at home for Game three.

479
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 5: Let's lock in and take care of business at home.

480
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing for Kai, Look, man, Kai

481
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 5: is a bucket. Kay is a champion. People forget that too.

482
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 5: Kay's got a lot of he got a lot of

483
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 5: NBA Finals experience. He's been down two before, He's been

484
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 5: down three to one before. Right, think the thing for

485
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 5: Kai Drew is a He's just a dynamic defender. How

486
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 5: much can you get Drew off of his body? Right?

487
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 5: Stack talk about taking him to the post? You know,

488
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 5: I would he be in the sense of you know,

489
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 5: Dallas has kind of played their style of Basketball's got

490
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: him to this point. They got two of the best

491
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 5: closers in the game. How do you get Drew off

492
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 5: of Kyrie's body?

493
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Speaker 4: Right?

494
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Speaker 5: I want to bring some of these other guys into

495
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 5: the matchup. Let me put a lesser defender. Can I

496
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 5: come set some screens? Let me get make him switch,

497
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 5: you know, make some of these other guys have to

498
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 5: guard Kyrie that don't guard the way Drew do, so

499
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 5: that that gives him the ability to, like Stack say it,

500
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 5: not to have to work so hard against an elite defender.

501
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 5: But let me take one of these other guys. He

502
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 5: might be a good defender, but he's not Drew Holliday, right,

503
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 5: So how can I bring some of these other guys

504
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: that don't defend as well into the action to where

505
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 5: now I can give Kyrie some freedom? How can I

506
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: set some off ball screens for him to allow him

507
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 5: to run freely without the ball and catch the ball

508
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 5: to live dribble. I think there's all kinds of different

509
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 5: things that that Dallas can do that's inside the system,

510
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 5: that you can get Drew off of his body, that

511
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 5: will allow him to kind of free up and play

512
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 5: against lesser defenders a little bit more.

513
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Speaker 3: We have a different series.

514
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: This is justin Jack, go and break the news, bro.

515
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: We have a different series. Celtis Chris stopp persingis so

516
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: for the torn media, I can't say that word, but

517
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: that ismes that word. I don't allow allowing dislocation of

518
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: the posteria to Belisses tendon, whatever that is.

519
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: It ain't good for Boston because they needed that.

520
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 4: Oh Man to the ship. So that's down. I mean

521
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 4: that started with the calf.

522
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Speaker 1: Then I'm guessing the posterior Tiberlis tended Tiberlis tendon.

523
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 5: Both of y'all been in the finals back in your

524
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 5: cabin the back of your calf.

525
00:23:59,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: Damn.

526
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 3: I always heard of the finals.

527
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 5: Man, but but but we've all been like, the injuries

528
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 5: are just that is everybody. Look, man, I've been on

529
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: both sides of it. I've been on the winning side

530
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 5: guys have been injured, and I've been on the losing

531
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 5: side were guys have been injured in that part right there. Yeah, ooh,

532
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 5: that's a game changer. That's a that's a game changer.

533
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: I mean, this is obviously unfortunately because and Jack, we

534
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 4: talked about this coming in. You know, these calves are

535
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: are are tricky. This similar to with KD. KD tried

536
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: to push through uh, you know, in that Toronto ship

537
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 4: and unfortunately Tours Achilles. We're hoping this isn't as bad

538
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 4: for for Zingis, but I mean he's out now due

539
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 4: to the you know, it's and it started with the

540
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 4: calf strength. So this completely changes the trajectory the energy

541
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: of this series. And you know, Dallas has to take

542
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 4: advantage of this.

543
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: Matt we three game uh, I think game two or

544
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: three dirt go down in the West Conference Finals in Dallas.

545
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: I guess when I was with the Spurs. You think

546
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: that didn't help us in that series? Bro, that's big,

547
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: that's big. That's big. But that's big for Dallas. I

548
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: ain't saying Dallas should be like, oh yeah, we're gonna

549
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: win now because of poor niggas. But that's that's a

550
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: that's a big notch that somebody that you don't have

551
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: to worry about coming in giving ten to fifteen points

552
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: in four or five blocks.

553
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: He was changing a lot of shots for them.

554
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Tim mcmannimon from ESPN. Missoula says this is

555
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: a serious injury and the Celtics medical team would make

556
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: the decision about Porzingis's availability, doing anything and everything he

557
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: can to be able to play. Missoula said, and this

558
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: is I don't like this. I just don't like this.

559
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: And obviously it's the finals and we've all you know,

560
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 4: been players and and and feel you're on the coaching

561
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: side now. But I think this is a sign right here,

562
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And as bad as this

563
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: championship is to this team, do you risk this guy's

564
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: possibly furthering further damaging his body?

565
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: Jack?

566
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 5: You know, you know, man, I mean you know, look,

567
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 5: certain guys, right you make it to this point in

568
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: your career, you in the finals, You're gonna do everything

569
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 5: you can to play. So it might not even be medical, right.

570
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: It could be the medical saying no and he's like, no,

571
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 5: I'm playing.

572
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: No.

573
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: Sometimes, Matt, You guys we've all played with players. You

574
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 5: guys are built like that too, right, You you go

575
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 5: through your whole career and you're gonna give every opportunity

576
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 5: and I'm trying to play. I'm gonna try to play.

577
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: You know, you never know if you're gonna get back.

578
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 5: So it's a combination. I think it's a combination. Man,

579
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 5: depends on what kind of mindset Christoph's has and where

580
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: he is, knowing his body.

581
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: He's been injury ridden. Not to cut you off, feel

582
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 4: he's someone who struggled with injury throughout his career. We've seen,

583
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: you know, the ups and downs and forty of his journey,

584
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: and when he's healthy, he truly is a unicorn. Jack

585
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: your thoughts with what we just heard on the injury

586
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: and then now that he's still trying to push through

587
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: as well.

588
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I just don't see it happening.

589
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: And he pushed so hard to be able to play

590
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: in the finals remember they were talking about he wouldn't

591
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: play Game one to two, but that extra time gave them,

592
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, gave him a littit more

593
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: time to rest.

594
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: He don't have that time now.

595
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: The rest, you know, it's every other day thing. And

596
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: like like like coach, like Phil said, either you got

597
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: it or you don't.

598
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's hurt it the season.

599
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: Obviously it's unfortunate because his injury is way more serious.

600
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: But at this point of the season, Bro, I think

601
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: if you can't actually give your team a good effort

602
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: out there where you're not where you're helping the team

603
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: and not hurting them, you play. But if it's a

604
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: possibility that you can hurt yourself going to next season

605
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: and hurt the team, it's a no brainer.

606
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: Just sit out.

607
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just God being there too. I mean, this

608
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: change is completely changing. If he's out, this changes the

609
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: directory trajectory.

610
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 5: Of well, you know what though, Matt like like, if

611
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 5: he's out, look, Dallas can't relax. Like again, I've been

612
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: in that at all, Like like when I was in Toronto. Look,

613
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: all of those guys got hurt, Kadie got hurt, Clay

614
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 5: got hurt, and the only thing I kept saying, we

615
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 5: still have to win these games, and you still got

616
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: to play, right, There is no why those dudes are hurt.

617
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: We still got to go win the games. And so

618
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 5: that's the mindset that Dallas has to be in, Like,

619
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: all right, they wont man down who's been a big part,

620
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 5: they still got to go do their part.

621
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, it's a wounded dog transitioning our girl Juju.

622
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: You've had her in the lab. I got a chance

623
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: to see her play for the first time live this

624
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 4: season at SC and when I tell you, first of all,

625
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: nineteen for nineteen from the or eighteen for eighteen for

626
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: the free throw line. The way she got it to

627
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: her ship fell and got to her spots and would

628
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: pull and use the glass in the mid range and

629
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: fade off the double out of the day. It was

630
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: scary to think that she's really only I think she's

631
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: only eighteen or nineteen, like she's a young freshman, but

632
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: her game is very grown. So you know, as you guys,

633
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: you know you get opportunity to work with her. Have

634
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: you worked with her in the past, first, and what

635
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: kind of stuff do you guys work on when you

636
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: guys are in there together. Man.

637
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: I've been working with Juju since she was a I

638
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: think freshman in high school. We go back years, we

639
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 5: go back some time. Man. I've known Juju for for

640
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 5: some years and we've we've had a chance to build

641
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: a great relationship. She's a killer, bro, she is a

642
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: straight up killer. But but the thing I love about

643
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: her is one her parents. You know, Bobby and Sure,

644
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: her parents are phenomenal. They've done a great job of

645
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: just raising her. Her dad has done a great job

646
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: of like working with her on shooting and just kind

647
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: of giving her a fundamental base. And then her humility.

648
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: Like people talk about her basketball game. You ever around

649
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: Juju off the court, man, her humility is unreal, like

650
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: the kind of person she is, so that carries over

651
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: into her approach to the game, like her attitude that

652
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: come to the game. She's trying to learn, man. She

653
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 5: wants to be great. She wants to understand the nuances

654
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: of Man, how do I be great? How do I

655
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: beat double teams? You know, teams are trying to force

656
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 5: me are how do I get better at this? What

657
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 5: does my base look like in the post? Like she asked?

658
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: She asked so many questions to make sure that she's

659
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 5: like really trying to get her game right. And then

660
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 5: I just love the fact that for her, man, her

661
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: star just took off, but she's still the same kid

662
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: that she was, you know, back in the ninth grade.

663
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 5: Like so for me, just all of those intangibles we

664
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: talk about what we see on the court. She's just

665
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: a good human being that's super talented at basketball. And

666
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 5: I just think mat she's still scratching the surface. She

667
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: still has so much more.

668
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: She's still a baby.

669
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 5: Watch her like right now. Look, she's super skilled, she

670
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 5: can play, but when she starts to think the game

671
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: and understand the game from a more IQ point, then

672
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: they're really gonna be in trouble. That's what it's really

673
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: gonna be scary for for the next level, because she's

674
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 5: just now entering into that realm of really starting to

675
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 5: understand the nuance a game. How do I read defenses?

676
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: All of that stuff.

677
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's going to be a beautiful thing to

678
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: continue to see her grow and obviously wish her the best.

679
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: What's your observation right now of the women's game the media.

680
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'm someone who says, you know,

681
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: as you ask for growth, and you get growth, you

682
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: can't pick and choose what parts come with it, because

683
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of bullshit and dumb things said,

684
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: and a lot of how people just had a lot

685
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: of just dumb like come on, like what are you

686
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: talking about moments. But you know, overall feels someone you've

687
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: trained men and women some of the best in the world. Obviously,

688
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk right now about you know,

689
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: Caitlyn not making the Olympic team. So I want to

690
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: open up the floor to both of you guys. But

691
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: before I do, you know, you think back to the

692
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: men's game, and there's been times with the Dream Team

693
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: where they put later on and I remember early on

694
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: they were putting ad on those teams when he wasn't

695
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: necessarily ready. So you look at it from that stump

696
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: point of view. But at the same time, when I

697
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: look at that twelve women roster for that team currently,

698
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: there's not a person that you know, the Caitlyn is

699
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: technically okay, yeah, Caitlyn, but you can't say that. You know,

700
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: they got some dogs and there was still some real snubs.

701
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: I forgot the girl's name, but she's the second leading

702
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: scorer in the league. She was you know, she was

703
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: someone that possibly could have been on that team. So

704
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: what are your guys' thoughts on just the the energy

705
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: around the game and particularly you know, this Olympic team selection.

706
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: Look, man, I'm heavily engrossed in the women's game, Matt,

707
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: just just on the on the high school level and

708
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: the pro level. You know, I've worked with I've worked

709
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: with Jewel Lloyd for years, so I've had a chance

710
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 5: to really see the women's game up close. Look, man,

711
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 5: I think the first thing that people make a mistake

712
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: is they don't look at these women as athletes. That's

713
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: first and foremost. You know, stop talking about women's basketball.

714
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: These they are athletes. Like these these women are hoopers.

715
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: They go and hoop, they go and train, they go

716
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: and prepare themselves just like we do, right, just like

717
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: you guys did, so under standing at their athletes. First,

718
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: you know, the growth of the game women, the women's

719
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: game is about to be on a massive explosion, and

720
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 5: Kaitlin the kid Angel reach the whole that whole college

721
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: program them some of them lasers just came in, they

722
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: had them. They play a major role in just the

723
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: growth of the game. You know, the don Staleys of

724
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: the world. What's going on down in South college basketball

725
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: is helping the women's game grow exponentially. So the whole

726
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: thing that you see with Kaitlyn Man, She's got a

727
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: fan base, she got a real fan base that is

728
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 5: coming from Indiana, but now it's worldwide. And so the

729
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 5: growth of the women's game, like you said, Matt, it's

730
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna come with good and bad. But when

731
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: they're talking about you, that's what you want. Now the

732
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 5: women's game is getting major, major, major attention on every

733
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: news outlet. You know, you want some of it to

734
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: calm down, some of this chatter, some of the things

735
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 5: that are happening. I think those things will go away,

736
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: you know. But but the focus is that these women

737
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: can hoop. You know, they they are hoopers. The game

738
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 5: is owing, the game is changing. Now you see a

739
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 5: lot more women trying to dunk. Where is that? You know,

740
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: where is that gonna lead to in the other arts

741
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 5: parts of the game. But just can we treat them

742
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: like athletes first and foremost? And then the whole thing

743
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: with Kaylen make Taylor's time is coming. She knows it.

744
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 5: What I love about her attitude is that she's like, Yo, man,

745
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep working. I'mnna keep doing what I'm doing.

746
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: I love the game. She loves to compete. Y'all want

747
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: to take cheap shots at me, whatever, it's part of

748
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 5: the game. I'm I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep hooping.

749
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 5: I just love her attitude in the space that she

750
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: understands that there's a competitive spirit to the game and

751
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: she's gonna keep competing and trying to get better. So

752
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 5: if it's not this Olympics is certainly the next one,

753
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: she'll be there.

754
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Jack your thoughts Obviously, we've discussed the women's game

755
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: a lot, but what are your thoughts on the the

756
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if you even call the outrage. I

757
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: don't know if you want to call it outrage. But

758
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: you know, Caitlin not making this Olympic team, It's part.

759
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: Of the game. Man, sh ain't the person go through.

760
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be the l you know what I'm

761
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: saying that That's that's just what I think about it.

762
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 5: Bro.

763
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: She everybody knows she's great. Everybody knows what she's doing

764
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: for the game, which is tremendous. She's definitely one of

765
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: a kind, But at the same time, when things don't

766
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: go her way one time, we can't make it seem

767
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: like it's the end of the world. She's been treated

768
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: on fair when so many players has been treating a

769
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: fair number of times. So it's just one incident, like

770
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: coach said, just like you said, she'll be on the

771
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: team a number of times. But I don't think it's

772
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: just a big deal. I mean, those girls on this

773
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: on that team deserve to be on their team. They've

774
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: been carrying the WNBA for years and they and they

775
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: and they also have experience on this team. So uh

776
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: kudos to everybody that made it and Kingdom at that time,

777
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I think.

778
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: You said a perfect faeld. I mean, she knows her

779
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: day is coming, you know what I mean. So I

780
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: think that's important as the media contrives to pick and

781
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: choose and spend and throw shit out there. But one thing,

782
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 4: and I love how you said, I wish it would

783
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 4: come down. Let's just focus on the actual game, you

784
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

785
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: The highlights and Asia's numbers, and.

786
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: She tired or tired or broke down or tarosite, if

787
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, thirteenth straight uh point games.

788
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: What she's been able to do.

789
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: But you know, my whole thing with this is, you know,

790
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: whether people want to give the credit, whoever wants to

791
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: get the credit go from Don Staley to this, this,

792
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: this newer class. I'll just allowed that shit to be

793
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: the vehicle to put eyes on what this game really is.

794
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Let's forget who brought it.

795
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: Let's just re met me. Now we're seeing what it

796
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: is and continue to grow that and with that needs

797
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: to leads to my next question. Where do you guys

798
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: see this league in the next ten years? I know

799
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: they've got a big collecting environment agreement coming up either

800
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: this summer or the next summer. I'm not positive, but

801
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: I know that's going to change with the new Herd.

802
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: There's a big sponsor coming on board and new TV money.

803
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: Where do you guys see this game at in the

804
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 4: next ten years?

805
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: Well, Phil, I'll just say this, I'll see the game

806
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: feel and mat y'all tell me if I'm wrong for

807
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: saying this, but I just and ten years from now,

808
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I want to see the game the WNBA being controlled.

809
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: Ran and run by women. I want them to have

810
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: their own game.

811
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: We've had our own game, so for so long, and

812
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: we made it so hard for women to be a

813
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: part of our game in so many different aspects. You see,

814
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: we just getting women CEOs to run teams stuff like that.

815
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Let them have their own league, let them referee, let

816
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: them coach, let them do everything and have their own league. Yeah,

817
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: they can get assistance from guys because you know, we

818
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: know a lot about basketball as well. But I think

819
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: for the most part, I think it should be a

820
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: women dripping, women Made League, and I think they deserve that.

821
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 5: Phil Man, it's coming ten years. I wouldn't even say

822
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: ten years. I'm the next five years. The league is

823
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: gonna have massive growth from the incomes to now they've

824
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 5: they've they've switched over, and now the ladies are being

825
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 5: able to Some of them are, you know, traveling private,

826
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: which is a huge thing for them, right not having

827
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: to walk through airports at five o'clock in the morning,

828
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 5: being able to have their own chartter flights. You know,

829
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: there's stepping stones that they're taking. I think the more

830
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: visibility to get, the more the TV contracts are there.

831
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 5: In five years time, man, I'm hoping to see that

832
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: the w is doubling the contracts of these ladies, the coaches,

833
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: anybody that's involved with the w Everybody experienced massive growth.

834
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: I think in five years time, man, I think it's

835
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 5: just gonna be you're gonna see another right, You're gonna

836
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: see more what you're seeing this year sellout arenas right now,

837
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: they're having to move venues. I think they moved the

838
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 5: Caitlyn Cark game from a forty two hundred seat venue

839
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: to the to the major venue is over twenty thousand

840
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: people and they sold out. You're gonna see more of.

841
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: That, and I just think they not to cut you off.

842
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: Feel they said they sold When they went up to

843
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 4: the new venue, sixteen thousand tickets were sold in thirty minutes.

844
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: I mean, you see what I'm saying Like that, That's

845
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 5: where it's headed the game. The game is only going

846
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 5: to continue to grow for them on a major scale,

847
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 5: and everybody's gonna be winners from it.

848
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Phil, We got to get you out

849
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 4: of here soon. One more big question we wanted to ask. Obviously,

850
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: the NBA International takeover is here, and you know the

851
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: number of consecutive international MVPs the game is obviously growing.

852
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: I think this is David Stern's vision the whole time

853
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: was to grow to a global game. The global game

854
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: is here. Is there as someone who trains kids to pros?

855
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: Is there anything you can put your finger on? That

856
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: is why there's been such an influce and talent and

857
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: kind of almost and this is not a disrespectful which

858
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: is what it is. Yeah, water water down on the

859
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: on the American side.

860
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 5: Look, man, a lot of people I played. I played

861
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: eight years in Europe my career career. But people don't

862
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 5: understand their system of youth basketball is totally different. So

863
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: you look at guys like Luca, you look at guys

864
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: like Jokics, the Tony Parker's even Wimby, right, you take

865
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 5: just you can go back and look at the history

866
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 5: of guys from Europe that have come into the States.

867
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: These guys are playing pro basketball when they're sixteen seventeen

868
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Speaker 5: years old, right, So most of our sixteen seventeen year

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Speaker 5: olds is still in high school. Their system of.

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Speaker 4: A freshman too, by the way, six yeah, seventeen year

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Speaker 4: old freshman, which is fucking yeah, go ahead, that's another.

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Speaker 5: So their system, right, what they do the club teams,

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Speaker 5: the youth team, every pro team, they have junior teams,

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Speaker 5: and then those junior teams. These kids are already learning

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Speaker 5: how to one be a pro what's the schedule like?

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Speaker 5: They're learning how to be in a sense of just

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Speaker 5: learning how to play pro basketball. So their advancement in

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Speaker 5: the team concept. They may not be better individual players,

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Speaker 5: so to speak with, they may not be as athletic

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Speaker 5: or skilled as some of the kids that we have here,

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Speaker 5: but they know how to play the game. There's a difference.

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Speaker 5: There is a huge difference in terms of what we're

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Speaker 5: doing in the AAU culture. Not every AAU program is bad,

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Speaker 5: but if the AAU culture would take more more of

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Speaker 5: a stance of how do we develop our players one

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Speaker 5: not only individually, but how do we develop them and

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Speaker 5: understand how to play basketball off the ball, on the ball,

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Speaker 5: pick and roll, reads, the passing game. You know, I

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Speaker 5: just went to Italy to watch the Adidas Adidas Real

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Speaker 5: camp for all the top prospects. You could tell the

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Speaker 5: difference between the European teams. The you that ball was popping, popping,

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Speaker 5: the ball did not move. We had the you know,

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Speaker 5: young American teams, very talented, but their style of play

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Speaker 5: was different. Everything was you know, let me break my

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Speaker 5: man down. Can I create on my own. There is

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Speaker 5: a time and a place for that. You got to

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Speaker 5: have it. But understanding just how to play the game.

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Speaker 5: So this is why you see a lot of European

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Speaker 5: kids when they come into the league. Yes, again they

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Speaker 5: may not be as individually talented as are players here,

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Speaker 5: but they understand how to play. You can plug them

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Speaker 5: into a system, most of them, and they don't fit.

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Speaker 5: They don't They're not out of place. They play with pace,

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Speaker 5: they play with speed, they make quick decisions right, all

905
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Speaker 5: of these things which are really important to the game.

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Speaker 5: That's the difference. We still have so much talent here

907
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Speaker 5: in this country. But I always tell people because I

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Speaker 5: do spend a lot of time with youth, the youth

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Speaker 5: coaches in this country are the most important coaches in

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Speaker 5: the world. Why because they set the foundation of what

911
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 5: they're teaching these young athletes right. How they teach them

912
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: that's so important, man. And then they either have the

913
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Speaker 5: ability to make them play, making want to continue to play,

914
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Speaker 5: or they make them want to quit. So the youth

915
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Speaker 5: coaches have a huge responsibility. If you want to be

916
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Speaker 5: a youth coach, you better learn the game, learn how

917
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Speaker 5: to teach, not just learn how to teach your athletes

918
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Speaker 5: how to drive, but learn how to teach them how

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Speaker 5: to play within a system. That's what you're seeing, man,

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Speaker 5: and that's why these guys are coming into into the

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Speaker 5: NBA and they're just a little bit more polished on

922
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Speaker 5: the whole scheme of the game, right, That's what's happening, man.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Phil, before we get you out of here, Swiss

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Speaker 4: cultures speak to what you're trying to do in the

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Speaker 4: content space and where that idea came about.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: As Swiss coaches, Man, I want to say, I kind

928
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Speaker 5: of been with Swiss coachures since their very beginning, you know,

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Speaker 5: I did. I've known Swiss coaches going back to two

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Speaker 5: thousand and fourteen when they were you know, a really

931
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Speaker 5: small online presence. I met Jordan and you know, he

932
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Speaker 5: invited them to the gym and now to see, man,

933
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Speaker 5: what they've done and grown into is phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not really a guy that's really trying to

936
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Speaker 5: beat into the content space, but you know, I do

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Speaker 5: have an online presence, you know from my Instagram and

938
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Speaker 5: some of the things I do with my app. I'm

939
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Speaker 5: always all about just sharing the knowledge that I have.

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Speaker 3: Matt stack.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people people look at me

942
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Speaker 5: as just quote unquote player development coach man, but I've

943
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Speaker 5: been I've been doing head coach stuff in my role

944
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Speaker 5: for the last four or five years, so my knowledge

945
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Speaker 5: of the game goes way beyond player development. So some

946
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Speaker 5: of the stuff I just love to watch. Right I'm free.

947
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Speaker 5: This is the first time I've been this free in

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Speaker 5: my career, so being able to sit down and watch

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Speaker 5: some of the games that are going on, and I

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Speaker 5: get enjoyment out of breaking down certain actions, being able

951
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Speaker 5: to see certain things, and then maybe just help people

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Speaker 5: understand some of the other nuances of the game, what

953
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Speaker 5: goes on within the game. So some of these things

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Speaker 5: that I'm doing with Swiss coaches really just to kind

955
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Speaker 5: of share share missing piece of knowledge, help people have

956
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Speaker 5: more in depth understanding of what's really going on with

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Speaker 5: players are looking at, what are they seeing, how are

958
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Speaker 5: they setting up their movements? You know, just to kind

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Speaker 5: of give people a little bit more more insight on

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Speaker 5: what the game is doing from a higher level.

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Speaker 4: Well, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Phil.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for continuing to share your knowledge and bless

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Speaker 4: us with your knowledge because there is a lot over

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Speaker 4: there you know, obviously a free agent right now, so

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Speaker 4: best of luck. I know you'll land on your feet.

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Speaker 4: You're one of the brightest minds in this game, so

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Speaker 4: definitely looking forward to seeing where you land. Man, so

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. Thank you for your time, and we will

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Speaker 4: talk soon.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Phil, I appreciate you. Bro.

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Speaker 1: My son just graduated high school, so I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: him my de.

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Speaker 3: Man, he need that blessing.

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, we're here. We're here. Man. I appreciate

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Speaker 5: what you guys are doing.

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Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you. Peel. You ain't never told me though,

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Speaker 3: so you my guy.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, that's a wrap unplugged. You can catch

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Speaker 4: us on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network.

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Speaker 4: We'll see y'all next week.