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Speaker 1: Good mornings, Sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Wednesday, January fourteenth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always, it's Task Melissy.

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Speaker 2: Basketball fans, this one's for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy Trey Kirby, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey yo, and over Yonder making the magic happen. Super

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Speaker 1: producer jd on today's show, Trey's top ten trade candidates.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked about a lot. Yes, okay, yeah, had

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Speaker 1: to excise some guys. I didn't mean it to sound

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Speaker 1: so beautiful, but we have a weggie first Weggie number

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Speaker 1: thirty four.

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Speaker 3: That's a quickie, very very real quickie.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith sticks Weggie thirty four Dicky Boy in Houston

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Speaker 1: to his second wedge of the year.

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Speaker 3: Guys really for goggles. Yep, so good stuff. This one was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we say every Weggie is a snowflake.

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Speaker 4: This is not a snowf like the right Home about Mmm,

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Speaker 4: just stuck it from the left wing like usual, Both

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Speaker 4: broadcasts were just like Weggie was that the game was

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Speaker 4: too close to really go into the intricate sees of

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Speaker 4: what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably be giving that half a edgie on

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Speaker 1: the Ralph Lawler Weggie scale. That's when I get to

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Speaker 1: grading them at the end of the week, because there

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Speaker 1: was no even fanfare from the broadcast. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: weggie was said, But at this point that's like the

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Speaker 1: bare minimum. I need more than that. So it's half

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Speaker 1: a weggie, maybe one wedgie, you know what, one Weggie

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Speaker 1: because it's his second wedgie of the season. That's something,

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Speaker 1: that's something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, Oh, I'm good. Okay.

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Speaker 2: You know, whenever you see somebody with goggles fire Aggie,

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Speaker 2: I wonder, can you see is that why he missed

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Speaker 2: him missed the hoop?

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Speaker 3: Great question.

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Speaker 1: Possibly, Let's get into last night's games, because we had

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Speaker 1: the defending champions responding to three straight losses to the

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Speaker 1: Spurs with the one nineteen ninety eight home win Tuesday

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Speaker 1: night in the latest rematch of the top two teams

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Speaker 1: in the West. So Okase gets it done, Shay Gilbert

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Speaker 1: Alexander scoring thirty four and they ran away in the end,

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Speaker 1: but a massive, massive third quarter to blow this game open.

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Speaker 2: Tests Yeah, and I thought Jaylen Williams was the difference.

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Speaker 2: I think he is their X factor in general. I

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Speaker 2: know it's not satisfactory for people to say the second

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Speaker 2: or third best player on their team is the X factor,

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Speaker 2: but I think he is. And I think this was

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Speaker 2: his best game of his season since coming back from

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Speaker 2: his injury, where he's just decisive, making the smart decisions.

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Speaker 2: Seeing Victor webbin Yama coming out on defense towards chet Holmgren.

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Speaker 3: So he goes the other direction.

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Speaker 2: I'm going left and able to get past Justin Champenny.

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Speaker 2: He liked going at Justin CHAMPENNI last night.

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Speaker 3: He sure did.

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Speaker 2: Also, just just really really smart. Wenby's in the lane.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm pulling back. I'm getting the heck out

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Speaker 2: of here. Making the right cuts that we saw all

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Speaker 2: last year in the finals. Man is a cut machine,

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Speaker 2: making that exact right timing to receive it in the

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Speaker 2: middle and then most likely try and lay it up

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Speaker 2: or find somebody with his passes. I thought his passing

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Speaker 2: was really great, his defense was great, and I just

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Speaker 2: think that guy is the guy that sets them apart

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Speaker 2: from every other team because I know their defense is

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Speaker 2: going to be there every single season, every single game

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Speaker 2: Shay is going to be there, but he is that

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Speaker 2: second guy to really make it work. And it's the cuts,

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Speaker 2: it's the fast breaks. He just knows that the precise timing.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the difference. So that's why Jilen

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Speaker 2: Willims it's kind of under the radar that this guy

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Speaker 2: has been injured most of the season because check was awesome.

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Speaker 2: This whole team was awesome, and Jaylen Williams was just

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Speaker 2: a guy coming back. But he is really really important

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Speaker 2: to this team and he was the one who put

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Speaker 2: them over the edge last year. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: when he started to click. You know, he had a bad,

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Speaker 2: bad second round game Game six, the Denver Nugget series,

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Speaker 2: the game seven, he was freaking awesome. Or am I

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Speaker 2: getting the games mistaken? There was a Game five to

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Speaker 2: Game six. Either way, it was the I think what

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Speaker 2: makes them best offensively. So it's great to see him back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, jadeb was awesome. He's going to have a really

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Speaker 4: up and down season. It feels like this you're coming

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Speaker 4: off a shooting wrist injury. He's got this fancy glove

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Speaker 4: that keeps his hand warm. You look at his game

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Speaker 4: last night.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: He played really great, and I thought the quick decision

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Speaker 4: making was kind of the difference for the Thunder going

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Speaker 4: against the Spurs last night. But he didn't take a

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Speaker 4: three pointer, didn't make a shot that wasn't at the rim,

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Speaker 4: but he was also getting into the rim all the time.

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Speaker 4: I think the jumper is kind of going to be

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Speaker 4: a struggle for jadeb this season. He's kind of said

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Speaker 4: the same, He's like, this is the sort of thing

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Speaker 4: where you get your hand fixed and instantly it's back

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Speaker 4: to the way it was before. It's going to take

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Speaker 4: some working through, and obviously that's still happening. But when

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Speaker 4: you start talking about Jaylen Williams, I wasn't even sure

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Speaker 4: which one you were talking about.

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Speaker 3: They were both awesome last night, j l I n j.

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Speaker 4: Will was really solid off the bench eleven points, ten boards,

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Speaker 4: five assists, hit a couple of threes, and I thought

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Speaker 4: the three point shooting was important for OKC last night,

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Speaker 4: as it always is. They only went eleven from thirty

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Speaker 4: from three, which doesn't seem great, but it's the first

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Speaker 4: time in six games that they've even been over league average.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, Williams, jay.

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Speaker 4: Will hit a couple, but more importantly, Case and Wallace

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Speaker 4: hit two for three, Alex Cruzo hit two for four.

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Speaker 4: These are guys that are being left open right now.

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Speaker 4: They've really struggled with their shot recently, so knocking them

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Speaker 4: down really put oka see over the top. Because to me,

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Speaker 4: even though the defense was good for the thunder yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I thought they won it on offense. Possessions were about

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Speaker 4: the same. You know, both teams forced about the same

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Speaker 4: number of turnovers. They got beat on the offensive glass

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Speaker 4: by the Spurs, but free throws were about the same.

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Speaker 4: Shot attempts were about the same. But okay, so he's

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Speaker 4: been thirteenth in the NBA in offense in their last

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Speaker 4: fifteen games, but last night fifty six points in the paint,

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Speaker 4: they shot seventy percent with Wemby defending, I thought they

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Speaker 4: were just really smarted the way they were attacking him

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Speaker 4: and not being scared to actually go at him. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna block your shot sometimes, but apparently you can still

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Speaker 4: score over him occasionally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome that they wanted this win too, obviously,

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Speaker 1: having been beaten three times by them, it sounds silly

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Speaker 1: that a team that was what thirty three and seven

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Speaker 1: going into last night's game they are the defending champs.

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Speaker 1: It sounds stupid to say this was a must win game,

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Speaker 1: but like they sort of approached it that way, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we can beat them. They're not our kryptonite. We can

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Speaker 1: figure them out. And you know that was still missing

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Speaker 1: a couple of their key guys in Lou Dort and

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hernstein. But you guys said all these other guys

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Speaker 1: that stepped up, and Aj Mitchell being back too because

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Speaker 1: he missed the previous two thunder Spurs games, as many noted,

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Speaker 1: nice to have another guy that can handle the ball

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Speaker 1: a little bit, can create either his own look or

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Speaker 1: for others, or even just get to the free throw

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Speaker 3: So I think it was.

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Speaker 1: Important to have him back to just another guy because

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Speaker 1: when you're playing the Spurs, like they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of elite defenders on the perimeter and you can you

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Speaker 1: can play aggressive with Wemby Roman behind you, you need

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Speaker 1: a guy that can sort of beat somebody off the dribble.

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Speaker 1: J Dubb was doing that. Sha can do that, and

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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of other guys, but Aj Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: I think is one of those guys. Reggie Miller was

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Speaker 1: loving him on the broadcast. Oh my god, he is

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Speaker 1: a certified bucket getter, so it's nice.

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Speaker 2: I think Reggie gets excited to see left handed guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I think he just guys got

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Speaker 2: But this team looked like okay see of last year

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Speaker 2: because aj Mitchell produced, because the other Jalen Williams produced.

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Speaker 2: To have three guys that were in double digits off

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Speaker 2: the bench, plus and Isaiah Joe that was splashing had

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Speaker 2: eight points himself. They run deep, and so when everybody's

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Speaker 2: hitting from all sides, especially Jalen Williams, the bencher, the

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Speaker 2: big guy to come off with Hartenstein out to play

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Speaker 2: against Webinyama was key. They needed that depth. And you know,

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Speaker 2: we didn't even mention Aaron Wiggins, who didn't have a

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Speaker 2: spectacular stat line. I thought he was really good too.

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Speaker 3: Most of the night.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was going at Wemby, but smart enough to stay

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Speaker 2: away from him when they had to. But to kick

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Speaker 2: man like that on the other side is important. Fifty

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Speaker 2: six to forty so they scored twenty eight buckets in

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of buckets.

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Speaker 1: Forty to twenty four in that third quarter went okayse

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Speaker 1: blew the game open. And I think you said it there.

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Speaker 1: That was the most the Thunder have looked like the

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Speaker 1: of weeks if you've been watching a lot of the games,

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Speaker 1: that was the thunder of old or the thunder of

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Speaker 1: earlier this season. That that third quarter especially, and look

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Speaker 1: the Spurs. I thought the game was over at one point,

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Speaker 1: Spurs suddenly ripped off like an eleven o' run to

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Speaker 1: get right back into the game. But of course the

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Speaker 1: Thunder did it again. It was cool to see SGA

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Speaker 1: talking some shit too. This guy's obviously pretty level headed

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Speaker 1: when it comes to playing and his emotions. But even

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Speaker 1: he hit that one three near the end of the

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Speaker 1: third quarter, did his celebration to the crowd and then

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Speaker 1: looked like he was talking some shit to Castle there,

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Speaker 1: which is awesome. And then Kenrick Williams in a three,

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Speaker 1: and you know he contributed as well. Kenrich Williams playing Wemby. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: put the smaller guy and just get up in under

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Speaker 1: him and try and tire him out and just hit

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Speaker 1: him as much as you can. That's the game plan,

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Speaker 1: or that's what they did.

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Speaker 3: Everybody threw everybody at him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Awagans obviously, Yeah, J Dubb, Caruso, they all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And Chet tried to play him too, And I

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Speaker 1: felt like Wemby was dunking on him every time Chet

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Speaker 3: He did. I guess the.

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Speaker 4: First two times that he really touched the ball right,

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Speaker 4: he had the face up on. Chet gets to his fingers,

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Speaker 4: probably hit the rim, I don't know. It was close

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Speaker 4: enough to a dunk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Then the give and go alleup from the corner with

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Speaker 4: Stefan Castle. That was ridiculous, throwing an alleup over Chet.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy that Chet's like, if you're picking a guy,

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Speaker 4: just looks wise, who's like the best matchup for Wemby.

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Speaker 4: It's probably Check And he got lit up the most

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Speaker 4: by of anybody on the Thunder. But they have enough

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Speaker 4: options they could do it. I thought they're small ball

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Speaker 1: We're projecting for it to be a rivalry because they're

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic, But they are level headed guys.

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Speaker 2: don't know, Listen, it's all right when you win three

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Speaker 2: pretty damn good. So they're the Thunder and now thirty

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Speaker 1: Pace for sixty eight wins, and we've been like, what's

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Speaker 2: He struggled.

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Speaker 1: They're not that good right now? Why are they struggling

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Speaker 2: bounds like, oh, we're getting bad Caruso night. Then open

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Speaker 3: He's so fun.

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Speaker 1: I love it. He's all about the smoke too, you know,

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Speaker 1: I pray where they see each other in a postseason Yes,

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent? I hate a smaller guy guarding me.

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Speaker 4: Dating back to Nelson, Remember Nelson, I gave me problems.

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Speaker 4: they're stronger. I think referees give those kind of players

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Speaker 4: just seems like it's a harder to attack a smaller,

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Speaker 1: I've you took the words literally right out of my page.

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Speaker 1: I was good to say it's more important to have

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Speaker 1: I saw you say fire hydrant for Julius Randall in

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Speaker 1: He is in this weird metaphor we have going here. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeheah, no doubt. This is the time of the year

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Speaker 2: They start to get more and more creative, Like watching

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Speaker 3: My misremembering. He says he had like a she was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought she mentioned it when and then he

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Speaker 2: Stefan Castle the conductor is what I think of when

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Trying to go like a literation like Castle the conductor,

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Speaker 2: for me. Well that role probably not. Will that be

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: But I feel like watching him that's what he does.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise he's just a fun Castle. He's never I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's good enough.

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Speaker 1: Very he's got a cool look. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: cool play. When Wenby gave it to Castle and then

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Speaker 1: Wemby did the that He's like he's at that three point,

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it up, and he threw down the dunk.

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Speaker 1: Anything else from this one, I thought the SGA block

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Speaker 4: Helping out, Yeah, on that cool. Had a decent game

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Speaker 4: thirty four in passing we're mentioning this and then.

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Speaker 1: He started poorly, like poorly right, he couldn't hit a

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Speaker 3: Fowls.

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Speaker 1: You know, he did bang knees with women women. Yama

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Speaker 1: went through it last night. He was on the ground

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Speaker 3: He's the m v P.

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Speaker 1: I guess probably again here right now with being out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's kind of funny to start

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Speaker 4: a coast to coast to day with the most middle

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he's like.

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Speaker 4: The most middle far away from any coast. Possibly it

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Speaker 1: That's fair, but it's a great game.

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Speaker 3: You gotta put it in planes coastn't hit quite the same.

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Speaker 1: No anything else. All right, we'll move on because we

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Speaker 1: got to get to this story. Uh, Jannis booing his

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Speaker 1: their best guys. They're getting waxed on their home floor. Well, Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: Yannis sat in that locker room stewin all halftime because

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Speaker 1: he booed his own fans, and he was asked about

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Speaker 1: I won't read the whole thing, but he said, whenever

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Speaker 1: if it's the home So look, there's some frustration, is

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Speaker 1: what we're getting out here from your honest and how

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Speaker 2: He is mad man, that is for sure. Doesn't mean,

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Speaker 3: To be traded over the next three weeks.

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Speaker 2: But he is angry. He's angry at his own team.

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Speaker 2: He's angry at himself now. When he was fouled with

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Speaker 2: in front of that. Well, what am I supposed to

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Speaker 2: do with this guy? I'm supposed to pull him off

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Speaker 2: they just let him be. He's just mad at his team.

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Speaker 2: The way they came out, they stuck. They were horrendous

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Speaker 3: The day off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did. And he said, I'm never going to

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Speaker 2: do things better. This guy's always just always positive, and

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Speaker 2: that's what he's going to take from this. I think

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Then he likes people booing him for the first time

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Speaker 3: The first time, So the first time do you remember

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Speaker 3: me being booed at home? How dare they boo me?

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Speaker 3: But I'm the leader in every category?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't have that part years and I'm basically

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, he was mad. He was a

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Speaker 2: Not to the level that he's saying, I'm done here

434
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Speaker 2: in the next three weeks now, six months from now,

435
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 2: when it's the off season and they still stink, that's

436
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 2: a possibility. But this team was just super super bad yesterday,

437
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 2: very bad.

438
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota had five dunks in the first half, hit

439
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 4: thirteen threes in the first half. It was not a

440
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 4: good effort from the Bucks. But unfortunately for their fans,

441
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 4: there's no way to convey to Jannis that we're booing

442
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 4: the team, not you, specifically, you're the one who's actually

443
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,239
Speaker 4: playing well right now.

444
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 3: We're booing everybody else and also Doc Rivers.

445
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 4: But Giannis is also looking pretty sad on the bench

446
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 4: late in this game. Some say he was crying, who knows.

447
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 4: He was definitely shaking his head, rubbing at his eyes.

448
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,119
Speaker 4: I thought he was a little bit of adverse, a

449
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 4: little bit adversarial post game. It's just a stressful time

450
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 4: for the Bucks right now because every loss is just

451
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 4: going to bring more and more questions about what is

452
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Speaker 4: the future of Jannis there in Milwaukee.

453
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Speaker 3: And right now they are.

454
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Speaker 4: In the midst of a pretty tough stretch. They lost

455
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Speaker 4: to the Warriors, they beat the Lakers, lost to Denver

456
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Speaker 4: without hardly anybody playing, lost to Minnesota last night, No Edwards,

457
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 4: no go Bear. They've got on the road against the Spurs,

458
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 4: on the road against the Hawks, then home against the

459
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Speaker 4: Thunder and home against Denver again. That takes us through

460
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 4: next Friday. Like the Bucks are not playing great right now,

461
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 4: that could be a two and six stretch and then

462
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 4: it's just more and more questions for Giannis about what's

463
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Speaker 4: going to be happening here. So I don't know, it's

464
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 4: just tense times all around in Milwaukee. Every loss is

465
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 4: like the sky is falling.

466
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's totally true.

467
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: And from the other side, they're off there. John Horst

468
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: and all of them have to be deciding are we

469
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: going to make a move and trade a future draft

470
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Speaker 2: pick essentially, because I think that's a big part of

471
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Speaker 2: the package going out of Milwaukee, the biggest part, because

472
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: no one's extremely appeal at bringing on Kyle Kuzma or others.

473
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Speaker 1: Bobby Portois.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way it is.

475
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Speaker 1: There's not a lot, not a lot on that roster

476
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: besides Joannis really, I mean, Rollins is a young, talented guy.

477
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 3: You'd want to keep him if you're Milwaukee.

478
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Then yeah, it was they got destroyed and the fire

479
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: hydrot himself. Julius Randall, he was good. He was a

480
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: monster game. Yeah, it was sort of flirting with a

481
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: triple double. I guess he was a little bit off

482
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: in a couple of the categories, but good game and

483
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: just a dominant win. And then it was like garbage

484
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: time and got to see a bunch of Wolves guys

485
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: you don't get to see play all that often. My

486
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 1: guy Leonard Miller cooking in limited minutes.

487
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Joe Ingles played eight minutes. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's

488
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 3: how bad it was.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's got to be his longest stint of the season.

490
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: I would have to imagine. Probably looks like he's got

491
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 3: another eight minute game on here. He's good for Joe Ingles,

492
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 3: all right.

493
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Speaker 2: Just quickly to go back to Luke Cornett. I believe

494
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 2: he told Soor Stevenson that the Spurs Thunder are not

495
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: a rivalry, they are not a check Shakespearean rivalry. And

496
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: he said Capulets and Montague is Shakespeare. So that's what

497
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Speaker 2: he was talking about. And that's what Zora brought to

498
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Speaker 2: the table. She gave her sideline report, and Luke Cornett's

499
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Speaker 2: not ready to call it a Shakespearean Okay, yeah, cool enough.

500
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: Let's go quickly to Miami Heat. Bam Adebayo score twenty nine.

501
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 1: This guy one of his best games of the season,

502
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Speaker 1: without a doubt. Now, the Heat did blow a twenty

503
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: point lead, but they rallied at the end when they

504
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: came back to top the Sun. So these are two

505
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: good teams obviously, Miami and Phoenix and bam I think

506
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 1: scored like was it thirteen straight there down the stretch

507
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: and then it was Norman Powell taking over with Himai

508
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: Hawki's junior setting up both of those buckets. A nice

509
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: little flip to Norm in the paint for the one

510
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: little jumper, and then he found him in the corner

511
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: for a three. Those were big as They got a

512
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: good victory here, and I think again with Bam playing really,

513
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: really well, any thoughts on the victory from Miami.

514
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, II Mahakas has developed as a playmaker. He is

515
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: their secondary playmaker. He assists on a quarter of the

516
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: team's buckets when he's out there. Davian Mitchell leads him,

517
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: but he is pretty important. Yeah, those two assists to Bam,

518
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 2: who was splashing threes. This was splash time for Bam

519
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: to hit two back to back bucket. Now, he's taking

520
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 2: the most of his career this season, and he had

521
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: four in this one. That's tied for second most of

522
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: his career. He doesn't hit a lot of threes period,

523
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: so that was a big factor. Yeah, we give up

524
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: this lead and I'm going to help us solidify a win.

525
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: So he hits that second one and then he went

526
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: into a celebration with his hands behind.

527
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: His back like a relaxed thing.

528
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: Like Okay, I interpret that as there's gonna be an

529
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: All Star Game, but I'm gonna be relaxing on the

530
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Speaker 2: beach because I'm not going to be invited to.

531
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

532
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if him and Asia Wilson they got

533
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: a celebration that they do or something.

534
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

535
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was. But twenty nine points

536
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: for him, that was his second I mean, you know,

537
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm not reading into anything that's the.

538
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: Relation because if that's his celebration with agod Angelo music, Sorry,

539
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: he looks good.

540
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: He looks good obviously, twenty nine in this game. That's

541
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 2: the second most of his season and he just had

542
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: to come back and save the team. It's going to

543
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: be interesting what they do. We'll get to their trade

544
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: deadline and if they add something around that guy. But

545
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: a good win for them, just to save the day.

546
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: At the end of the yeah, I thought it was

547
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 4: a much needed win for the Heat. They'd come in

548
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 4: having lost three straight. The Sons were rolling. I think

549
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 4: maybe they had one three straight, and once it flipped

550
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 4: to Phoenix after the Heat blew the lead, it was

551
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 4: like this could be kind of a crisis for Miami.

552
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: But basically Bam checked in, got a steal right away,

553
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 4: started making plays, hitting three pointers, and then Powell brought

554
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 4: him home. Even though the Sons had looks for Grayson

555
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: and Dylan Brooks to tie, the game could have made.

556
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: I mean, the Grayson Allen one was oh, well, deep, well,

557
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks I thought was a pretty solid look from

558
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: the corridor.

559
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: It does feel like.

560
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: The Heat are starting to run pick and roll more often,

561
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: especially with Tyler Hero and Bam. They've been playing together

562
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: for what five seasons now at this point, so they

563
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 4: got the chemistry and it's a good wrinkle that I

564
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: think the Heat need. You know, there's a reason that

565
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: the pick and roll is the most used play in

566
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: the NBA for every other team besides Miami. But that

567
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: was BAM's first twenty plus point game since December fifteenth.

568
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: The guy's been struggling for sure right now. The Heat's

569
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 4: fortunes have kind of followed alongside BAM's struggles here, so

570
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: they needed that win. Bam needed to have a game

571
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: like this where he goes out and looks like an

572
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 4: offensive weapon.

573
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: Good work by Phoenix get back in the game and

574
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: even take the lead in the fourth. But they did

575
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: have some brutal turnovers down the stretch too. You had

576
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: Mark Williams, he had some happy feet under the rim,

577
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: got called for the travel. Then you had Grayson Allen

578
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: stepping out of bounds on the sidelines when they were

579
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: inbounding the ball in front of the Miami Heat bench there.

580
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: And then Dylan Brooks, he brought up that three point

581
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: at ten from the corner. It was a good look.

582
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: I think he was a little too concerned with maybe

583
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: trying to draw the foul instead of trying to hit

584
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: the shot, because he airballed it. And then he got

585
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: called for the flagrant fowl as after he releases the

586
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: shot decides to like sort of hit and pull down Wiggins.

587
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: I think it was in the corner.

588
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: And then that was.

589
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: Basically the game. Only Dylan Brooks could somehow get a

590
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: flagrant foul while he's the one I'm shooting the three

591
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: points shot in the corner of this guy man. But yeah,

592
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: just a couple of bad turnovers there, now.

593
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hilarious.

594
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: So the camera angle you see Dylan Brook's hand the

595
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: way he you know, releases the ball. It's so funny

596
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: just seeing the front of a hand. It's just a

597
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: rare rare form on that guy and Grayson Allen. I

598
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: thought he almost was. He was feeling it, man like.

599
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: He had six threes last night.

600
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna we might get the best

601
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: gracing game we've ever had. I mean, he's he's had

602
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: a few of those games where he gets on fire.

603
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: He had a forty this year, right, Yeah? Was it

604
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: forty not this year? Yeah, that's a lot of points. Yeah.

605
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 4: So I heard Eric Collins call him Kaboom's Kabam's and

606
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: Capile's Eric Red.

607
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: Eric reed he had not Eric Collins. Can you imagine

608
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: him yelling at the boom? I can't actually, Capile. That

609
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: made me a laugh.

610
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: I think he also called I think he called Andrew

611
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: Wiggins mister pogo man back, mister pogo Man.

612
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Other games last night, Jimmy Butler scored sixteen, care had

613
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of assists. Warriors beat the Blazers. No Daniyavdya

614
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: Durant had twenty eight shngun double double. Rockets beat the

615
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Bulls in a high scoring affair. Jamal Murray, Peyton Watson

616
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: awesome games. Nuggets beat the Pelicans in a close one

617
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: one sixteen and Lebron flirted with the triple double. He

618
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: just missed the triple double. Lakers crushed the Hawks sad

619
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: KAKA one forty one to one sixteen. Any thoughts on

620
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: any of those four games.

621
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'll start with that game where Lebron was awesome.

622
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: JJ Redick press conference postgame, was asked about Lebron He's

623
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: and he just kind of went off a little bit.

624
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 2: He got mad. He said, it's unfortunate how much he

625
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: puts into it, how much he cares, and how certain

626
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: people talk about him. I don't know if he was

627
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: calling out somebody specifically, but it wasn't no Dunks, that's

628
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: for sure, because we talked about his patch that he's

629
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: wearing on his jersey yesterday, and we praised him for

630
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: what he's done to achieved that patch those twenty three seasons.

631
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: Because RD, it was Sam, this guy's already in the

632
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: ice tub, he's already trying to get better for the

633
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: next game. Made me want to get in the ice

634
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: tub again because I haven't done it in a while.

635
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: Probably when Grace and Allen had a good game where

636
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: he scored forty two is the last time that I've

637
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: been in an ice tub, probably two months ago now

638
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: thinking about it, but anyway they win, Lebron looks great.

639
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: I will say my mand Anthony Melton looked great for

640
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: the old Warriors. That ACL injury is starting to repair.

641
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Twenty three points in eighteen minutes. That guy, he belongs

642
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: in the rotation and to see him sort of as

643
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: the go to guy off the bench. Helped out because

644
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Curry has got a bad game. Jimmy Butler's hair looking good,

645
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: but you know they needed something. And I just want

646
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: to know Michael Porter Junior on the court side. Do

647
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: you guys see the videos of him recording himself watching

648
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets play, So he just happened to be

649
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: in New Orleans watching the Denver Nuggets play the New

650
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Speaker 2: Orleans Pelicans. He's like, he looked flip the camera. He's

651
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: like courting himself and he's like recording the game. He's like, oh,

652
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Speaker 2: pe Watt, Peton Watson takes it to the hoop, that

653
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Speaker 2: kind of thing. It's like, whoa, this guy's a multi

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Speaker 2: camera shoot here by himself. But he was there to

655
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: support his former team no other reason. You know, people

656
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Speaker 2: can speculate he's getting trade, but yeah, I think he

657
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: just likes his old teammates. That's about it. That's about it,

658
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: and you know, good good camera awareness. I think on

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Speaker 2: his part, didn't didn't see that, kind of just didn't

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Speaker 2: know what he had in his game. I thought his

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Speaker 2: podcast is recorded by others and he just sits there.

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Speaker 3: But curious, Mike is a multi platform superstar. He curious.

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Speaker 3: He was, curiously, how does the word exactly it turns

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Speaker 3: around that? Oh, that's whirly won cool?

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Speaker 4: Any takeaways? Yeah, I mean some games are a tail

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Speaker 4: of two halves. Warriors versus Trailblazers was a tail of

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Speaker 4: one half. Warriors or up by twenty six at half

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Speaker 4: time and never really threatened in the second half.

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Speaker 3: Portland got back into it.

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Speaker 4: But the Warriors were just too good last night. Blazers

671
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Speaker 4: were trying to get the ball out of Stuff's hands,

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Speaker 4: he said. Okay had eleven assists. Golden State assisted on

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Speaker 4: thirty four of their forty two makes. Twenty one players

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Speaker 4: in this game hit a three pointer NBA record between

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Speaker 4: the Warriors and the Trailblazers. Every single Trailblazer that played

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Speaker 4: hit a three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, that's pretty crazy. I didn't see that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was interesting. And also Rockets Bulls. Was

679
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Speaker 4: just a fun game. Thirty five lead changes, nineteen ties, Rockets.

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Speaker 4: Biggest lead was nine, Bulls, biggest lead was four. It

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Speaker 4: was close the entire time, and Houston out executed the Bulls,

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Speaker 4: I thought in the fourth quarter. And that's kind of

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Speaker 4: been a bugaboo for Houston. Shout out to Destiny's child.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they needed that win.

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Speaker 2: In all honesty, I do hope for Hanson Young's head

687
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Speaker 2: to be all right. I mean, he got hit Young Hanson,

688
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: I like call him both because we call him both.

689
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Speaker 2: He got hit in the head by a knee and

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Speaker 2: he had to leave the floor in that Portland game.

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Speaker 2: You just reminded me of that tray when you mentioned

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Speaker 2: every single Blazer splashing, including Hanson Yah one for three

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Speaker 2: do up splashing. Didn't see that comment a lot of splashers.

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Speaker 1: Back to the Lakers game for a second. I hope

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick read Tom Ziller's newsletter this morning. Oh, because

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Speaker 1: Ziller noted three active players in the NBA who made

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Speaker 1: their league debut before two thousand and seven. Here are

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Speaker 1: their points per averages per seeds. Here are their points

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Speaker 1: per game averages for this season. Lebron James twenty two

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Speaker 1: point four, Chris Paul two point nine and not playing,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Lowry one point zero. And Zilla went on

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Speaker 1: to say Lebron is, of course, the last player standing

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Speaker 1: from the three draft, no one left in the league

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Speaker 1: from the four draft, Chris Paul the last player standing,

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Speaker 1: I guess from the five draft, Lowry the last player

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Speaker 1: standing from the six draft, and then four guys from

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven draft, Kevin Durant, Al Horford,

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Speaker 1: Mike Conley, and Uncle Jeff Green. He's on the team,

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Speaker 1: right and so his point, Durant the only one from

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Speaker 1: this group producing at a level like Lebron still is

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Speaker 1: and Katie entered the league four years later. Pretty wild,

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Speaker 1: there you go, JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 1: That was very nice.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 1: It is absurd, it's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why it feels like he ain't done

718
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: this season because he's too good. Then you can argue

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Speaker 2: the other side, maybe he wants to end while he's

720
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Speaker 2: really good and have some good stats. Maybe he doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to have minuscule stats next season. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he'll ever have minuscule stats because he's in

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Speaker 2: the cold top staying fresh.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to some news. John Morant remains the hottest

725
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Speaker 1: name in trade speculation, and yesterday NBA insider Rachel Nichols

726
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Speaker 1: said she heard that Jaw would love to go to

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Speaker 1: Miami and go play for the Heat. Of course, John

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Speaker 1: Morant may want to go to Miami. The question is

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Speaker 1: does Miami want Jaw Morant Trey We've talked about this

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Speaker 1: a little bit already. The theoretical package that the Heat

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Speaker 1: could put together for Jahn Morant. Now it could be

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Speaker 1: centered around like a Tyler Hero or and Andrew Wiggins

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Speaker 1: could be that could be centered around maybe Terry Rozier's

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Speaker 1: expiring contract.

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Speaker 3: We're still a little unclear on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the league allowing that we don't know, okay,

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Speaker 1: But and then they have some other, you know, younger

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Speaker 1: rookie scale contract guys that are maybe enticing to the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 1: They do have draft capital too. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it even will take any to get John Morant. We

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Speaker 1: saw what Trey Young went for. But any thoughts on this, Nichols,

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Speaker 1: I guess report that maybe this is one of the

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Speaker 1: places that John Morant wants to go.

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Speaker 4: You can definitely see it happening, because, like you're saying,

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Speaker 4: the Heat have a lot of different ways they could

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Speaker 4: get this deal done, depending on what the Grizzlies decide

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Speaker 4: they want to do post John Morant, Like if they

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Speaker 4: want to try and rebuild around Jaron Jackson, JUNI, you're

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Speaker 4: probably the Tyler Hero centered trade is the smartest one

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Speaker 4: to make. You know, you can do Hero for Josh

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Speaker 4: straight up. I don't think that's what it would be,

752
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: but you know, the contracts work out Heroes thirty one

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00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 4: million this season, thirty three million next season. You can

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Speaker 4: see him stepping into the lead ball handler role for Memphis,

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Speaker 4: or if the Grizzly decide this is going to be

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Speaker 4: a complete teardown, they could Wiggins or Rosier, either of

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Speaker 4: those contracts Fontechio. Maybe they get a pick in that

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00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: scenario that's kind of similar to the Trey Young return,

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Speaker 4: you know, to expiring contracts, and if they get a pick,

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Speaker 4: it would be better than the Tray Young return, which

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Speaker 4: maybe that's the case since Jaws got a little bit

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Speaker 4: longer on his contract. But the Heat do seem to

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Speaker 4: be the team that is in the lead right now.

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Speaker 4: I suppose for the Jah Morant sweepstakes, and if he's

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Speaker 4: trying to push his way there, then maybe that tips

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Speaker 4: the scales.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, I could definitely see it happening.

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Speaker 2: I think the heater A definitely the leader in the

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Speaker 2: board or the team that looks like they may be

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Speaker 2: willing to bring in John Morant and polish him off

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Speaker 2: and say, we've got a world class organization, world class

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Speaker 2: training staff.

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Speaker 3: We've seen them take guys.

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Speaker 2: Like Jimmy Butler obviously is the best example, but guys

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Speaker 2: from other franchises where you know, maybe they weren't do

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00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: and so well, bring him in, we can make him

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Speaker 2: look great. And so there's definitely look it looks like

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Speaker 2: the heat would want that. Being said, it's a long

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Speaker 2: time that he's under contracts, so maybe they're not maybe there,

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Speaker 2: maybe they don't want two and a half years of

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Speaker 2: John Moran knowing that the guy's not going to play

782
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Speaker 2: sixty games, which is being optimistic, but that's what he does,

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Speaker 2: you know, and throughout the beginning part of his career.

784
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, they've got a great health staff.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they do see a package of Rosier Davion Mitchell

786
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Speaker 2: and a first possibly depending like maybe the Memphis Grizzly say,

787
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Speaker 2: we need a point guard who's really great at stopping

788
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Speaker 2: the ball. You could see him in bam Adebaio work

789
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Speaker 2: in Miami. Him and Jared Jackson Junior could work in

790
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: our organization. But maybe that's not enough to get it done. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: other packages. I threw one together of Rosier. Let's hope

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 2: he's tradable. Fontechio and himI Hawk is just that just that?

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Speaker 3: See?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so zach Lows said recently, and you know he's pretty.

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Speaker 2: What what is the max that they're going to get

796
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: for Jamran?

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Speaker 4: That's the question, That's what I'm saying. The heater saying, no,

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Speaker 4: it's to that one. They're not including three players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Lo said he saw fake traders, but they're not Tradingkinskis

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Speaker 4: is the guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah.

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: So Zaklo was like he's seeing fake trades like Wiggins

804
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Hawkes two first round picks, and Zachlo is like, what

805
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: are you smoking. He's like, there's no way that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the sort of return for potentially John Morant.

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Speaker 1: He thinks it's more likely it's hero and dead money

808
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: and not much more than that. You're right, though, maybe

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00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: it's the Rosier and Fontechio, and then.

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Speaker 2: I think guys would be the guy, the only guy

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Speaker 2: in that trade that they'd want, no disrespect to Fontechio.

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00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: But essentially it would be yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Grizzlies asked for that, and they counter with no,

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00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: uh yakos or whatever, like right, he'd say no, take

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Speaker 1: one of these guys instead. Probably not pel Larson at

816
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: this point. Maybe Jovich, but he's got he's under contracts. Yeah, so,

817
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: but it's not where. I don't think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Hawkes Junior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been great, it's not going to be good whatever.

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Speaker 1: Now I still think he is making his way to

821
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Speaker 1: Miami on record saying that, But I guess I'm a

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Speaker 1: little reluctant because I also thought for the longest time, well,

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard's going to Miami, that's a walk. And like

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Michael Scotto said, yeah, heat sort of do this right.

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: They're the weird guy in your auction. They're like always

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Speaker 1: in the auction but never actually offering all that much.

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Speaker 1: They're always low ball offering, so they're always in the

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Speaker 1: discussion or start the auction one dollar Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Fine, but maybe it's the it happens maybe it's the

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Speaker 2: time where teams are offering last as we saw for

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Speaker 2: Tree Young, maybe it's a good time to be the

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat, to be that low ball offer type of team.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like if the Grizzlies can get Tyler Hero back,

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Speaker 1: I mean it does depend on what's their direction, what's

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00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: their plan here? Are they really ripping everything down and

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Speaker 1: that means you'reon Jackson Junior is gone, then maybe you

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00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: don't want to hear I get that, But yeah, if

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Speaker 1: they still want to be competitive, I mean you can

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Speaker 1: do a lot worse than Tyler Hero as a main

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00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: piece coming back for a disgruntled Jah Morant.

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00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, so that definitely.

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00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they want the expiring money instead.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that would be so interesting to see John rant

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Speaker 2: With operating that offense of Eric Spoltter because they do

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00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: need more pick and roll. As you mentioned treeleig heimr

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Speaker 2: Hawk is would be the guy that they wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to send back because he's been so good. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: that role. What offense is Eric Spolsier running with Moran

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Speaker 2: and at a bio.

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Speaker 4: That's the funny thing because they're running the Grizzlies offense.

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00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah last year, Yeah, that joh hated.

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00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the coach nut spulture, but with the coach

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00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: that made it happen there, So that's weird.

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Speaker 3: That'd be weird for John Morant to go there, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Final note, Rachel Nichols on the podcast talked about the

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Speaker 1: misconception of Heat Culture too, and she said, quote here,

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Speaker 1: it's not that Heat Culture is some boot camp for

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00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: wayward souls. I love that line. It's not, oh, gee,

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00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: don't worry, the heat will clean them up. Heat culture

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00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: is we are tough, we are disciplined, and you either

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00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: play by our rules or you leave and you go home.

863
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: We are not here to babysit you and hope you

864
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: get up to our level. And that is why players

865
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: who have worked there have really worked. That's a good

866
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: point from her, you know, because we have some fun

867
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: with the Heat Culture. It's like, oh, I don't know,

868
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: John Moran in South Beach, that could be a disaster.

869
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Look it maybe could, but their whole point is it's like,

870
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: we don't babysit you. It's like, come on, man, act professional.

871
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Let's go and are you on board or not? And

872
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: I think he needs a fresh start. I think most

873
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: agree with that.

874
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: With John Moran.

875
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen in Memphis, so it's

876
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: somewhere else and he needs to like turn his career

877
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: around here again, and I think he will. I do

878
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: have faith in him.

879
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: Still keep the main thing, the main thing.

880
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: That's what they always say in Miami. And the question

881
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: is would their health staff be able to just bring

882
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: that guy's knee body back to anywhere close to what

883
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: it was. I mean, he shows it from time to

884
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: time here this season, but they do believe in their

885
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: world class conditioning staff. Yeah, so maybe it's that.

886
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Yep, maybe it's that Anthony Davis got a little update

887
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: on him. He has opted against surgery on his injured

888
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: left hand, refuting a sham's report from earlier in the

889
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: day that the ailing big man would have a procedure

890
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: and miss multiple months. But eighty's hand was working good

891
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: enough to fire a tweet or two two humps, get

892
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: your facts.

893
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: Right, lies.

894
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: So look, but the point is eighties not returning anytime soon.

895
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still gonna take a long time.

896
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: He's still going to be approximately six weeks even without

897
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: the surgery. So again, we've already talked a lot about

898
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: this and whether he'll be moved still or not now

899
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: and all that, but it's gonna.

900
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: Be well, yeah, six weeks to be reevaluated.

901
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't, especially when it comes to any reevaluation, but

902
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to Anthony Davis. You thinks six

903
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: weeks plus a reevaluation. Whoa, we're talking the whole regular season.

904
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: He still could be out. So it was interesting to

905
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: see a d call out Champs boom lies. You better

906
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: stop listening to these lies on these apps. These apps

907
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: are full of lies, my man. It is unfortunate. We

908
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: all see lies, and we see lies every day. Very true.

909
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: I couldn't help. I can help, But look at this

910
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: other tweet and laugh. It says Schamp's today, Anthony Davis

911
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: needs hand surgery. Anthony Davis won't need hand surgery. Doctors

912
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: have cut off Anthony Davis's hand. Doctors have not cut

913
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: off Anthony Davis's hand. Doctors have cut off Anthony Davis

914
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: is uninjured hand by mistake. Anthony Davis isn't a real person.

915
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: Jeremy Coheno is a good one. They got me, Yeah,

916
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: they got.

917
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: Me a real person.

918
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, do the other teams want a guy that's

919
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: being re evaluated in six weeks.

920
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: I think they still do.

921
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: But I still believe Anthony Davis is going to be

922
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: traded at the deadline.

923
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: His hand is going to be traded.

924
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting which team gets the hand and which

925
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: team gets the rest of Anthony Davis?

926
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

927
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: The package?

928
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: One would you rather want?

929
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: The package is not going to be good? Which one

930
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: would you want?

931
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: Okay?

932
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: Hypothetically you take off both of Anthony Davis's hands? Very

933
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: important to basketball? All right, would you rather have the

934
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: hands or the rest of Anthony Davis?

935
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 4: Oh give me give me body, no hands? Okay, and

936
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: still be an effective room protector. Interesting not blocking shots,

937
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: but to Turing then okay, yeah, I disagree?

938
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: All right, any thoughts on this besides where we're going

939
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: with it.

940
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: He can still be traded, for sure, but it's tough

941
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 4: to figure out the team that can give up enough

942
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: salary to get Anthony Davis on his large contract and

943
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 4: stay afloat while he heals this six to eight weeks

944
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 4: Like that, to me means the Hawks have to still

945
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 4: be in the mix because Christa's porzingis he doesn't play,

946
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 4: just like Anthony Davis doesn't play.

947
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: Like, what are they missing out?

948
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: On the Clippers, I think are kind of in the

949
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 4: same boat because they have so many guys they could

950
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: do like John Collins, love to see him back in

951
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: trade rumors, Brook Lopez, bogdan Bogdanovic, like guys who are

952
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: in their rotation, but that they at least have replacements

953
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: for while they wait for AD. Then I would even

954
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: throw in the Charlotte Hornets as a surprise team. They've

955
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 4: got just so many random veterans. They've got the Mavericks

956
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven pick, which would be huge for Dallas.

957
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: To get back.

958
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: I don't know that AD would want to be sent

959
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 4: to Charlotte and sign an extension there.

960
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 3: That's the big question.

961
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 4: But the birth they are at least enough pieces in

962
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 4: Charlotte to get it done.

963
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I think Atlanta is still doable because

964
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: the main part would be Kristaps porzingis going back to

965
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: get the numbers there.

966
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: He hasn't played a lot this season.

967
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: I know you'd say the same thing about Anthony Davis,

968
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: but Anthony Davis at least you believe he'll play for

969
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: most of it. Add On to that and Luke Canard

970
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: plus the pick is what we used to say when

971
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis was not injured this season, and what they

972
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: give up with that pick is the key part here.

973
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily have to be a really good pick.

974
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: It could be the Cavs pick this season. There could

975
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: be some you know, whether it's one to twenty protected

976
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: or something like that. We're talking Chris stops Canard and

977
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: some sort of protected pick.

978
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: I could see that happening.

979
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: What you got the guy with Potts or the guy

980
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: that's injured like fifty parts of his body over his career.

981
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm barely exad with that.

982
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's hurt a lot of

983
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 4: parts of his body.

984
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So which one?

985
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: This is the operation games? You're starting center?

986
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: You want the Pots center or you want the mister glass.

987
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: I want mister glass.

988
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, give me the glass. I agree, give the glass.

989
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: I totally agree because Chrisp's just literally leaves the floor

990
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: and it's a condition that he may not be able

991
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: to play the same way for a long time and

992
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: it could just happen like that. I say that Ad

993
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: is exact same in a different way. But yeah, give

994
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: me the glass.

995
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break and when we come back

996
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,640
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1015
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Speaker 1: you got a fun list for us. Like I've said,

1016
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: these trade candidates that we haven't talked a lot about

1017
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: you got a list for us.

1018
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was hogging in the troughs going through all

1019
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: of these rumors to see the slop that our beautiful

1020
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: farmers have been providing for us.

1021
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: But names that we won't talk about. Trey Young's traded, John.

1022
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: Morant, we talked about him, LaMelo Lowry, Markin and MPJ

1023
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: Jonathan Kaminga, and Trey Murphy.

1024
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm cutting those guys all right. We've talked about them

1025
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: a lot for weeks. Yeah.

1026
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 4: I also only wanted one player per team. Okay, though

1027
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: I fudged at once because you'll see why. But my

1028
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: number ten, top ten trade candidate, we haven't talked a

1029
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: lot about Jeremy Grant. You mentioned him tass as a

1030
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 4: potential Milwaukee Buck. I think that he has been linked

1031
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: to the Bucks. As Michael Scatto told us, everybody and

1032
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: their mother has been linked to the Milwaukee Bucks. Jeremy

1033
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: Grant's almost thirty two years old. He's got thirty two

1034
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: million for the rest of this season, thirty four next year,

1035
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: and then a player option for thirty seven during I

1036
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: guess that would be the twenty seven to twenty eight season.

1037
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: Jeremy Grant hasn't played though since December eighteenth. I don't

1038
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: know if he's really hurt or they're just holding him

1039
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: out so that he's not actually hurt at the trade deadline,

1040
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: I think it's achilles tendonosis.

1041
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I thought it was.

1042
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm not the biggest Jeremy Grant fan, but

1043
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: teams can talk themselves into him, I do believe.

1044
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, especially if the Blazers aren't expecting a lot

1045
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: to come back in a trade and we're seeing what

1046
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: like the Hawks got for Tree Young in that maybe

1047
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks can give up a couple players without

1048
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: having to give up a first round pick. So literally,

1049
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: it would be the Blazer saying, Okay, we're done. We

1050
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: made that monster, monster of a contract deal with Jeremy Grant.

1051
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: Now it's time to just cut the cord here.

1052
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Capperleaf would be the thing for the Blazers. Yeah, exactly.

1053
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: God, So when we're talking the Bucks, it's in comparison

1054
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: to guys like Zach Levine, which you'd probably have to

1055
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: give up more for. You know, I don't know what

1056
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: the Kings. Where the Kings are doesn't have to be

1057
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: a first round pick. And what other Bucks am I forgetting?

1058
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: Oh I got one for you.

1059
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but Jeremy grant Man thirty four million next

1060
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: season and then he makes thirty six and a half

1061
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: million the season after that. That's a player option.

1062
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 3: Yep.

1063
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: To quote Ryan Rossillo, I think he's going to pick

1064
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: it up. That's a lot of money for a guy. Look,

1065
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: he can still his threes. Obviously would be a vet

1066
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: on your team. He'd have to go to the right

1067
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: team and play a diminished role and all that. But like, yeah,

1068
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: he also just doesn't play. I mean, go back and

1069
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: look at his games played over the last four or

1070
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: five years. This is half the half the season.

1071
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: So he plays.

1072
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he could be had, but I don't

1073
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take a lot.

1074
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, he plays both ends. And for the Milwaukee Bucks,

1075
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: they need basketball players that play on both ends. And

1076
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: that's why the zach Lavine one is not a go

1077
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: in my head. That being said, you know, I'm just

1078
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: being optimistic when I say he can play both ends.

1079
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: You may not even be able to play one end

1080
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: right now, but you swint and you look back to

1081
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: his time with Nikola Jokic, and that's why you got

1082
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: that deal with the Pistons, and he can maybe perhaps.

1083
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: But it would be a gamble. That is for sure,

1084
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: a big gamble.

1085
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant, when it's all said and done, and kudos

1086
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: to him and his agents, is going to have made

1087
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: over two hundred million dollars in the NBA. That's that's ridiculous.

1088
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Pretty like he's a clunch guy, is that right? Never

1089
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: an All Star obviously, never all NBA, never to that

1090
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: level close to No, I know, I know, like he's

1091
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: he's actually don't think he plays both ends anymore.

1092
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: I think he gave up on one end once he

1093
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 4: went to Detroit and try to become the man.

1094
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like one of these random guys. It

1095
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: does score twenty points per game. Again, he misses half

1096
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: the season, so take it with a grain of salt.

1097
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's the perfect sort of definition of like, well,

1098
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that can score twenty points

1099
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: for you, and he is one of them. He can

1100
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: hit the three, he can still hit a pretty good

1101
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: percentage from three, and he lets it fly.

1102
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: But two hundred million plus.

1103
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: Here's another clutch client at number nine, de Jonte Murray.

1104
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 4: Remember Dejontay Murray barely. He hasn't played since January thirty first,

1105
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, coming off a torn achilles.

1106
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: He's twenty nine years old.

1107
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: He's got a big old contract as well, thirty point

1108
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: eight this year, thirty two point eight next season, thirty

1109
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: point seven player option in twenty seven to twenty eight.

1110
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: But I was.

1111
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: Surprised to see Jake Fisher linking the Bucks to Dejonte Murray,

1112
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: saying the Bucks would be interested if Murray makes his

1113
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: debut sometime in January. Fisher continues, I'm definitely expecting de

1114
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 4: Jonte Murray to be available for trade if and when

1115
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: he comes back. I had completely forgotten about this guy,

1116
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: and now he's in trade rumors for the Milwaukee Bucks.

1117
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: That's desperation mode. Yeah, de Jontay Murray's not even on

1118
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 4: the court. No, No, there's a lot of these guys

1119
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 4: are like, hey, he doesn't play. At least they've goten

1120
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: like fifteen games in.

1121
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: You would expect him to come back pretty soon, considering

1122
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: his injury was in January of last year's at the

1123
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: end of January, so twelve months to unfortunately tearor's achilles.

1124
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: He could come back, So that's a weird one.

1125
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that he was a name we're seeing

1126
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: in slop right now.

1127
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would put Jeremy Grant at a higher probability

1128
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: of the Bucks getting than de Jontae Murray because you really,

1129
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: number one, you don't know what you're getting with the

1130
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: guy who hasn't played. But also that's a lot of money.

1131
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: That's a lot, that's a lot of money to Jonte money.

1132
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 4: Number eight, DeAndre Hunter, he just showed up in rumors

1133
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: starting yesterday. Matt Moore threw him in some slop Chris

1134
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: Vador Maybe Cleveland Beat reporter have him mentioned in rumors.

1135
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: Apparently Clutch Sports another Clutch Sports. This is an all

1136
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: Clutch trade deadline team. Basically, Matt Moore kind of hinted

1137
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 4: that his representation might want him out of Cleveland. Of course,

1138
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 4: Cleveland did trade for DeAndre Hunter last trade deadline. They

1139
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 4: sent Kris Lavert and George nian Here to Atlanta. They

1140
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: tried Hunter as a starter to start the season and realize,

1141
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 4: this guy is a sixth man all he doesn't score

1142
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 4: and sometimes he doesn't score. So I got him coming

1143
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: off the bench, and that's probably not with DeAndre Hunter, imagine,

1144
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: but he seems the most likely non core piece to

1145
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: be traded for Cleveland. And I just don't know if

1146
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: another team is going to be suckered into this guy.

1147
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: You know my feelings. DeAndre Hunter. He sucks. So I

1148
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: will be giving a D grade or F grade to

1149
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: whatever team of the deadline talks himself into trading for

1150
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter. But he this is like would be obviously

1151
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: selling it the worst possible time. He's having a garbage season.

1152
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: He can't hit a threes, he's playing poorly, and the

1153
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: Cats are struggling too.

1154
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, coming off a season where he got plenty

1155
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: of six Man of the Year votes, he was fourth

1156
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: in voting. He looked great going from Atlanta to Cleveland,

1157
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: new team, coming off the bench. He was a machine

1158
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: that way. And then we're go into the off season.

1159
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson said our best player, if I'm not mistaken,

1160
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: was the quote was basically, that guy has been.

1161
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: On another level.

1162
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: He could be our best player this offseason. And so

1163
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson inserts him into the starting lineup, which the

1164
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: Hawks did year after year after year, and it didn't

1165
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: work somehow because of injuries with the Cleveland Cavaliers and

1166
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: Max Shrews being out a big part of it why

1167
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hunter was probably put in the starting lineup. But

1168
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: it was a big mistake, and so I can understand

1169
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: why his representation is unhappy because DeAndre Hunter.

1170
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: Is probably unhappy.

1171
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: You know, his role is changing, but still he was

1172
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: excelling last year in that role, so I think he

1173
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: should be back in that role. They still aren't healthy.

1174
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: Max Shrews is still not back. I think he is

1175
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 2: there by far an away their best option at the three.

1176
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 2: Give it to Struce if he can come back from injury.

1177
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: It's just a weird season all around for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1178
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: But Hunter's been bad. Yeah, He's been very bad.

1179
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: He's shooting his worst three point percentage by far in

1180
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: his career at thirty percent, a flat thirty percent. But

1181
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: last year he was at forty percent. So it's a

1182
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: different team. I don't know what Kenny saw in him

1183
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: in the offseason, not sure, but it's not the same guy.

1184
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: At number seven, Colin Sexton, he's on the Hornets, and

1185
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 4: I swear I didn't do this on purpose, but he's

1186
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 4: also a clutch sports guy. Twenty seven years old, eighteen

1187
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: point nine million dollars. How is Rich Paul going to

1188
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: be able to keep doing podcasts when he's got all

1189
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 4: of these players up for trade.

1190
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to do it.

1191
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: He just trades him on the podcast. Yeah, they're all

1192
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: going to be with Max Kellerman. But Colin Sexton's had

1193
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 4: a really solid season.

1194
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 3: I think for the Hornets.

1195
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 4: He's on an eighteen point nine million dollar expiring deal.

1196
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: He feels like he might be.

1197
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: Following in the John Collins path here where we're always

1198
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: going to talk about Colin Sexton.

1199
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: As a trade rumor. I can see a team like the.

1200
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: Timberwolves or the Pistons being interested in him as another

1201
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 4: ball handler who's not going to cost you a whole

1202
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: bunch of money other than maybe a second round pick

1203
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 4: and matching salary, or if you have a trade exception,

1204
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: he could fit in there. But you know, I think

1205
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: that Sexton could be had. He's never played in the

1206
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: playoffs before. Wow, So that's a big risk to be

1207
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: willing to take. But a team could talk themselves into

1208
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: him because he competes on both ends. I don't think

1209
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 4: he's actually a good defender, but he tries on that end.

1210
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: He can score decision making is pretty crazy.

1211
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 4: He will go haywire a lot of times, but he's

1212
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 4: not going to be a huge piece for whoever gets him.

1213
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: But he could be a decent bench guy.

1214
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: I think he goes haywire because his nicknames Young bulls Man,

1215
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: so he plays red. But he's the best player on

1216
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: this list so far this season, which is pretty wild

1217
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: to say. But he's played better than obviously Grant who's out,

1218
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: Murray hasn't played, and DeAndrea Hunter again not good. So

1219
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: Colin Sexton, Yeah, that's an interesting one. Could he help

1220
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: a team obviously a more affordable contract than these other

1221
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: guys too. Yeah, and he's a name that hasn't come

1222
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: up a lot, so good inclusion.

1223
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: I thought that was Aye.

1224
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: That would be interesting at number six. Daniel Gafford. Now

1225
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 4: we're getting into players who were good twenty seven years old.

1226
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 4: He's got a really attractive contract. He signed for the

1227
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: next four seasons, topping out an eighteen point nine million

1228
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: four years from now. I wonder if this could be

1229
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: a guy that the Hawks pivot to if they decide

1230
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 4: they don't want to do Anthony Davis, because the price

1231
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: for Gafford is going to be much much cheaper. But

1232
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 4: the Hawks I think should be interested. Pacers maybe we

1233
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: were told earlier this year that they're looking for their

1234
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: center of the future. He would be a nice role

1235
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 4: man alongside Tyrese Haliburton next year. The Lakers should be interested,

1236
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: the Warriors should be interested, and I wonder if the

1237
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 4: Raptors might be a Gafford team as well.

1238
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is interesting with the MAVs because of Anthony

1239
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: Davis being out, because of Derek Lively being out. Whether

1240
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: or not they just want to hang on to a

1241
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: guy who's had a really good deal for several years,

1242
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: and Daniel Gafford, you might just want to hang on

1243
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: to him because that's your only big who plays. Dwight

1244
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Powell is old and that's all they have. Yeah, that's

1245
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: really all they have.

1246
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: I like all the teams you listed. I also wrote

1247
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: down the Raptors. I'd love to see them there. I

1248
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's likely. I think these other teams, if

1249
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: they really wanted them, could make a more enticing package.

1250
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: But if he found his way to the Raps and

1251
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: some nice three team deal or something like that, they

1252
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: got involved, it'd be a great center for them.

1253
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 4: Naji Marshall and Klay Thompson. Also, I would have to

1254
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 4: imagine the potential trade targets for other teams as well.

1255
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: But at number five it's Anthrety Simons.

1256
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 4: He's twenty six years old making twenty seven point seven

1257
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: million on an expiring for the Celtics this year. He's

1258
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: had some good moments. He's just kind of fit in there.

1259
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: But the question for me more so is like, what's

1260
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 4: the plan for Simons? Because when they traded for him

1261
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: in the off season, it was kind of the Celtics

1262
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: could go one to two ways. They could keep them around,

1263
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: sign them to a longer deal, maybe in the summer

1264
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: at a lower number but for more years, or if

1265
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: they wanted to duck the Aprons, he was kind of

1266
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 4: candidate number one to be shipped out. Him or Sam

1267
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 4: Howser could be cap casualty. So I just wonder if

1268
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: the Celtics are going to be buyers or sellers and

1269
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: how Simon's kind.

1270
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: Of factors into that.

1271
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: Right doesn't seem like he's going to be there for

1272
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: a long time. But when it comes to the trade deadline,

1273
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: it's twenty seven million dollars that he makes, so to

1274
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: match it up with something that they would want.

1275
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: It's not going to be easy, I.

1276
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: Don't think, because I don't know if another team says

1277
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Simon's going to be our guy coming off the bench forever,

1278
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: or or we believe that he could be a lead guard.

1279
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure.

1280
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: If there's a match out there, this could be a

1281
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: situation where the Celtics say, we're hanging on to him

1282
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: because we're gonna let him go at the end of

1283
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: the season. Essentially, it's all depending on what comes back.

1284
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: But I don't see them hanging on to and Frey

1285
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Simons and being a part of their future. I think

1286
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: the trade for Drew Holiday to Portland to get this

1287
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: guy was just about moving on from the Holiday contract,

1288
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: and now it's going to be moving on from Anthony

1289
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: Simon's contract really to I.

1290
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: Guess say the exact same thing Scotto said on yesterday's podcast.

1291
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: What the Celtics do here or don't do leading into

1292
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: the deadline is all sort of dependent on how they

1293
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: feel about Jason Tatum may or not returning.

1294
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,479
Speaker 3: Right I think he's right there.

1295
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: What do they know, How confident are they he comes back,

1296
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: how he's gonna look, or if that even happens. That's

1297
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: going to determine sort of where which direction they take

1298
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: here in terms of trying to bolster the roster, because

1299
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: they're like, whoa, East is wide open and we're adding Tatum. Jesus,

1300
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: maybe Simon stays or is it the opposite, and it's like,

1301
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: all right, clean up the books a little bit more,

1302
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: avoid any sort of repeater tax down the line, do that,

1303
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: and then obviously tried somebody like Simon's who is you know,

1304
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: can still obviously shoot the rock.

1305
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 3: There's a great three.

1306
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Point shooter still, and he's one of these guys that

1307
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: can easily hit like eight or nine threes in a game.

1308
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see. I think it does dependent on

1309
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: what they know and how they feel about Tatum.

1310
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jurning, you can definitely see them using Simon's in

1311
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: some kind of a package to get a more established

1312
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: center than Kita and Garza.

1313
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: Those guys have been pretty solid well.

1314
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: But maybe they would take their chances, like I mean,

1315
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: maybe even Dallas makes sense for some while trying to

1316
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: get their hands on Gafford.

1317
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: We shall see.

1318
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, at number four, I would assume he plays for

1319
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: the Chicago Bulls. He's almost twenty six years old, he's

1320
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: on a seven and a half million dollar expiring contract,

1321
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: one of the best contracts in the league right now.

1322
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: Played really great against the Rockets last night. He's like

1323
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 4: fifty percent from the field forty percent from three this season,

1324
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: averaging a career high I think fourteen points. I put

1325
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: him ahead of Kobe White, Kevin Herder, Jalen Smith as

1326
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 4: other trade targets for the Chicago Bulls just because I

1327
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 4: think the fact that Io at least gives some sort

1328
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: of an effort on the defensive end, I think makes

1329
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: him an easier fit for a lot of teams and

1330
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: maybe a more enticing playoff player. So teams like the Rockets,

1331
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 4: the Timberwolves, the Nicks, and the Lakers things should be

1332
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: after this guy. And I mean his contract is so

1333
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 4: small that you're gonna have a fungible player you can

1334
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: throw into the deal. Like I mean, in a Bulls

1335
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: fan's dreams, they're getting a first round pick for this guy.

1336
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're going to be seeing those

1337
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: fly around, but if a team is like, yeah, we'll

1338
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 4: give you a top twenty to protective first round pick,

1339
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 4: Chicago unfortunately should take it.

1340
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bulls, I feel like have quieted in a

1341
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: lot of trade rumors. I know Kobe White's name comes

1342
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: up still from time to time, but like obviously, Vucevic

1343
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: used to be at the top of.

1344
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 4: All these trade rumors lists. I haven't heard a lot

1345
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 4: on that. Yeah, he'll be he'll be high on the

1346
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: buyout guyst Yeah.

1347
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

1348
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I owe I've been a good player. He's

1349
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: only twenty five. Like you said, he was born in

1350
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: two thousand. You like to see that when you go

1351
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: to Basketball Reference, not a nineties guy. I like him,

1352
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, again, you would want to see him go

1353
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: to a good team, a playoff caliber team that he

1354
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: think he'd able to help on both ends of the

1355
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: ball and help you win in a series, and obviously

1356
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: try and guard some other some of the other best

1357
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: players on the other team. But that's a I didn't

1358
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: know he made that little.

1359
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it was a second round pick.

1360
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they developed him up and got him on

1361
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: a great deal, which is why I mean, they would

1362
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 4: have gotten a first round pick if they traded him

1363
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: last year.

1364
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: He's from Chicago. I have dose Trace Bang bang bang.

1365
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 3: It'd be sad to see him go. But does Trace you.

1366
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: Know, you know they should they should.

1367
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure the balls will get ripped off if they

1368
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: trade this guy exactly.

1369
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: I see the Nuggets may be sacrificing a future first

1370
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: round pick with some protections for this guy just to

1371
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: have somebody off the bench because they need a They

1372
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: ideally they just have another ball handler off the bench,

1373
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: and he's freaking good. But they'll bull should just keep

1374
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 2: him and sign him to a good deal.

1375
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 4: They can only offer him so much as the problem

1376
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: he'll probably make. I think they can offer him like

1377
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 4: fourteen million dollars or something like that, like mid level exception.

1378
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: He could possibly get more.

1379
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, he feels like a twenty million type

1380
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: guy ballpark.

1381
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 4: Maybe so yeah, more than fourteen yeah yeah. At number three,

1382
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 4: Herb Jones, he's twenty seven years old. Place for the

1383
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 4: New Orleans Pelicans. This is my only team that had

1384
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 4: duplicates because I think Herb Jones is different from Dejonte Murray.

1385
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: But fourteen mil for Herb this season. He's got a

1386
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,959
Speaker 4: long contract fifteen million next season, twenty point eight, twenty

1387
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 4: two point five, twenty four point two player option.

1388
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: I think that must be for the twenty nine to

1389
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: thirty season.

1390
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: Wow, that is a long time. For now it is

1391
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: Pelicans don't have to trade this guy. But I also

1392
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 4: do think if some team comes calling with a great

1393
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 4: offer involving some draft capital, they gotta take it. Like

1394
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: he's less essential to me for a rebuilding team than

1395
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 4: Trey Murphy is given them the shooting and the offensive creation.

1396
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 4: So teams like the Lakers and the Sixers, I would

1397
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: have to think gotta be calling about Herb.

1398
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 1: He's definitely been linked to the Lakers for a long

1399
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: time here. I don't know if it happens, but you

1400
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: could see why he would help. They could use some defense,

1401
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: and that's the one thing Herb Jones is at least

1402
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna give you defense.

1403
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: It would make sense.

1404
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: And the question is for me, whether the Pelicans, you know,

1405
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: start to veer a little bit more into a air

1406
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: quotes rebuild.

1407
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, what are they getting rid of?

1408
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: He would be a primary guy because the rest of

1409
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: their team in Zion, Jordan Poole, de Jehan, Tay Murray,

1410
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: Trey Murphy, who would get a lot I'll get a

1411
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 2: lot in it in a package could be that guy

1412
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: or Herb Jones. I mean those There's got to be

1413
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: a point where they start to look at that off

1414
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: rampant for again, get on that thing. I mean they

1415
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: got to at some point. Everybody that I just mentioned

1416
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: essentially could be traded this trade deadline. It's just what

1417
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: the package is coming back. So I don't know if

1418
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: they're willing to give up Tree Murphy, but I think

1419
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: he would be the guy who.

1420
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: Gets back the most.

1421
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1422
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: Probably, Well, Herb, there's there's so such a duplicate type Repelicans.

1423
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: So he's always injured too, is I mean he played

1424
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: twenty games last week, past the season this year.

1425
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate but true. Yeah, I could see him going

1426
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: for sure.

1427
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: How about this from the Shively Show in the stream

1428
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: team Herb Jones is emergency podcast worthy.

1429
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: Oh he's He's right on the line.

1430
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: He's got an accolade defense play.

1431
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of years ago. It almost depends like

1432
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: which team he's going to and what's coming back to

1433
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: me in the emergency podcast factor. Right, So he goes

1434
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: to the Lakers. Okay, it is the Lakers. Yeah, the

1435
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: sirens go off. I don't know. He gets traded to

1436
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: a he gets trained to the Kings. Are we doing

1437
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: an emergency podcast?

1438
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: No?

1439
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: No?

1440
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: Or not?

1441
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: He has to go to a team obviously big market

1442
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: or like championship status type team.

1443
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: That's my opinion, reminiscent of Dorian Finney Smith being traded

1444
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: last year. I know it's not the exact same type

1445
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: of player, but that's the same type of you know,

1446
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: skill set different when he went to the Lakers.

1447
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was a.

1448
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: We didn't do a separate emergency podcast for that.

1449
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: That was I mean that was just during the Yeah,

1450
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: during the season, whatever time. It was all about timing. Yeah,

1451
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: it is about timing, timing and team. But I can

1452
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: see Herb being called by JJ Redick to play forty

1453
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: eight minutes everything, you know, play hard man.

1454
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1455
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what happens there in LA because Ruy

1456
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: Murray is going to come back and he is going

1457
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: to be playing more. He played last Yeah, he played

1458
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: last night at the didn't play the first night of

1459
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: back to back, Like, will he be back to normal?

1460
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: RUI, maybe maybe you try Herb Jones. Maybe. Yeah. Welcome

1461
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: to the All Star portion of the list. That number two.

1462
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: Demonta Sebonis remember him, almost thirty years old. He hasn't

1463
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: played since November sixteenth. He's rehabbing a knee injury. It's

1464
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 4: like maybe returning in February. He's got forty two point

1465
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 4: three million this season, forty five next season, forty eight

1466
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 4: point six after this or after that. The Raptors, the Hawks,

1467
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 4: and the Bulls are the teams that have been most

1468
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: onto Sabonas. It feels like we're getting a boner in

1469
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 4: our lives here. Guess. I guess he could work his

1470
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: way to the Warriors, but it's pretty complicated.

1471
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: Three teamer that would need to happen. But I don't know.

1472
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: Sabonis definitely feels like a guy that a team would

1473
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: be like, this is a major acquisition at the trade deadline.

1474
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: He is a multiple time All Star. He puts up

1475
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 4: great numbers. He is a great rebounder. At the very least,

1476
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: he's a floor raiser for your team. I don't personally

1477
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 4: want the Bulls the trade four us. I'm happy to

1478
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 4: see he's less slopped to them, but it does feel

1479
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 4: like the Raptors are maybe in the lead for the

1480
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: Sabonas sweepstakes.

1481
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: Really, you know, don't love it, don't love it. It

1482
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: depends what it would be for. But he's just like

1483
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: we've it's like he raises your floor but capsure ceiling.

1484
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: Obviously not the most elite defensive sort of big guy,

1485
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: and he gets paid. Yeah, ballpark, he'll be up making

1486
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: close to fifty by the end of it, so some

1487
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: percentage of your cap ain't gonna rebound. He's gonna obviously

1488
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: flirt with triple doubles. He is a good player. You

1489
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: can run an offense sort of through him, but I

1490
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: do think there's limitations, and he's just getting older and

1491
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: now he had this injury. Yeah, I don't want him

1492
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: on the no dunks trifecta of teams, the Hawks, the

1493
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: Holes and the Wraps, but he probably.

1494
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: Will be yeah, yeah, playing kind of guy.

1495
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't disagree with anything you said, Skeets. I

1496
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: could see them. They're Turner rappers specifically, I could see

1497
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: them doing it just because he will align with everybody

1498
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: else who moves the ball inside the three point line,

1499
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: doesn't shoot the threes at all, will be undersized. They

1500
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 2: need somebody to protect the rim, and ain't this guy.

1501
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: So they could just say him call Murray Boyles will

1502
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: be starting beside him playing center, that bull of a

1503
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: man who's undersized. Again, they just will never have a

1504
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: guy who defends the rim. It seems like so I

1505
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: could see them doing him. But at the same time,

1506
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 2: they shouldn't. Bobby Western shouldn't, uh Auncy Sally and the

1507
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks shouldn't, and I don't think they will.

1508
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 3: I think they are.

1509
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: They're playing their cards a little close to the best,

1510
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: little more short term than Sabonis in two years of guaranteed.

1511
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: A guy who hurt his knee here, Yeah, it's not.

1512
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: This may not be a minor injury.

1513
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 3: So leave it.

1514
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: Leave it for the Kings books, you deal with it,

1515
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: and that's what they should be.

1516
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Kings are acting really funny right now because

1517
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 4: everybody throws them into a trade. If there's like somebody

1518
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 4: that doesn't look like they're going to have a big

1519
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 4: market around the NBA, it's you kind of default it.

1520
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: Well, they could trade them to the Kings, they'll do it.

1521
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 4: And the Kings right now just have to be like,

1522
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 4: we are not interested in any of these guys. Okay,

1523
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 4: we don't want Trey Young, we don't want Ja Moran,

1524
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 4: we don't want Yaka Peerle, we don't want Emmanuel Quickly.

1525
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: We're not dumb right now.

1526
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: No, Jonathan KUMINGA, Yeah, that's the one guy.

1527
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: We're smart now, I think they do. We got Harry Honestly,

1528
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 4: I'd like the way they're carrying themselves.

1529
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 3: Don't call us idiots. We're not idiots right now.

1530
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: Number one, it's Jared Jackson Junior, no surprise, twenty six

1531
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: years old. This guy would if he actually becomes available,

1532
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 4: would be the best name for sure, and we will

1533
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 4: know quickly. I think with the Ja Morant trade, especially

1534
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: if it happens with Miami, like we were saying, if

1535
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 4: they choose Tyler Hero, Jared.

1536
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 3: Jackson Junior, you're sticking around. Yeah.

1537
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: If they choose the expiring package, expiring contracts package, Jared

1538
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 4: Jackson Junior, you're available. Teams would be chasing after him

1539
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 4: like crazy because his contract is large, but it ain't

1540
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: too bad, especially for a young guy at twenty six

1541
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 4: years old. Thirty five million this year, which makes him

1542
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 4: makes it easier to get to his number because after

1543
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 4: that it's forty nine fifty and a half fifty two

1544
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: fifty three and a half. So I think should JJJ

1545
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 4: become available, Lakers would be after him. We know Rich

1546
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 4: Paul likes the trade with Austin Reeves involved, Celtics I

1547
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 4: think would have to be after him, be a crazy

1548
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 4: fit in Boston, I do believe. And the Pacers again

1549
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: would kind of be like a wait for next year's

1550
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 4: sort of deal, but would be good to get their

1551
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 4: center of the future in as well.

1552
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are big numbers that you threw out there.

1553
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: Years guaranteed of large dollars after this one, you know,

1554
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: circling around fifty mil. That being said, he plays and

1555
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: he's still young, so if he's available, everybody would want him.

1556
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't see the Grizzlies doing it. I see them

1557
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: attempting to keep him around, keep him happy. And that's

1558
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: what this John Morant trade is partially for. We like you,

1559
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: We got to move on. We're centering around this team

1560
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: that moves the ball to Thomas. He's all. That's what we

1561
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: do here. This is a fun place to play, right, Uh,

1562
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: don't leave. I think that's what the whole thing with

1563
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: Jared Jackson Junior is all right.

1564
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: Good list there, it's a nice list. It's a nice

1565
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: list of guys. We haven't talked a ton of pounds. Yeah,

1566
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: wink it.

1567
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: Up, wink it up. Fuzz Ball.

1568
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant de Jonta Murray, DeAndre Hunter, Collin Sexton, Daniel Gafford,

1569
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: An Prony, simons Io Desumo, Herb Jones, Demonts Sabonis and

1570
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: Jared Jackson Junior. How many of those guys will be

1571
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: traded by the devil? I'm putting you on the spot,

1572
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: ten guys named. I'm gonna set the line at two

1573
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: and a half, taking the over or under. I just

1574
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: put it up on Fandel.

1575
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 3: Well, it's that's a good line. Thank you. Did you

1576
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 3: think that through? That's really that's right.

1577
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: That's the top of my I'll go under. Yeah, it's

1578
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a two. It's gonna be close, though.

1579
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I will say two of those

1580
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 1: guys are traded.

1581
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go over. Okay, I'll go over for sure.

1582
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: Good list t Kabye Webbye of the Night sponsored by

1583
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: Simon Kersh and he's not selling anything to us. Just

1584
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 1: I want to sponsor this. Thank you, Simon, Thank you.

1585
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. You had a tough one for

1586
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: me to pick. Which guy was getting woe boyd. I

1587
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: just want to run through a few of the nominees.

1588
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray had thirty five and nine and Peyton Watson

1589
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: had thirty plus points. Both good games, BAM fantastic all

1590
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: around game from Miami. We talked about it.

1591
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: Lebron flirting with a triple double.

1592
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: He's eighty five years old. Sga had thirty five, five

1593
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: and five with four blocks and finally a win against

1594
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: the Spurs. But you know what's cooler than all of

1595
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: that mad efficiency, Trey Jones gets wo Boy of the Night.

1596
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: He plays for the Chicago Bulls. Case he didn't know

1597
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: he scored a career high thirty four points in a

1598
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: loss to the Rockets, but he showed eleven of twelve

1599
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: from the floor. I had to put it on the

1600
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: who boy graphic. His field goals made and attempted. He

1601
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: went five to six from deep, seven of eight at

1602
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: the Charity Strip team high seven assists, two boards, one steal.

1603
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: Did all of this in twenty seven minutes. Trey Jones

1604
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: a surprising woe Boy of the Night.

1605
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Simon kersh he was doing a lot of his

1606
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 4: damage against Men Thompson as well. Like Trey Jones was

1607
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: looking quick against the Men Thompson. He played awesome. So

1608
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 4: you know, not a win for the Bulls, but they

1609
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 4: got a wedgie and they got a wow boy.

1610
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, two w's in a different way.

1611
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, all right, Tass pickham four tonight. You

1612
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: and I got the victory last night, taking okayc to

1613
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: cover the what seemed to be a bit of a

1614
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: big line, but they pulled it out in the end.

1615
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: So Trey took a rare l. We're both six and

1616
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: to me and Trey, you're three and five. As Test

1617
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: tries to get back in this where are we going.

1618
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to a battle of the second tier in

1619
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference. Who is the better team between the

1620
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers and the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. We were

1621
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 2: debating it yesterday which team was going to be able

1622
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 2: to specifically the Sixers, whether or not they're going to

1623
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: be able to grow and win that Eastern Conference. Well,

1624
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: this is a team that they're playing that won it

1625
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: last year.

1626
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: What a weird, weird thing. In the regular season, they

1627
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: were great.

1628
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: They've been up and down, but I'm taking them tonight

1629
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. I think Cleveland can do it. Why I'm

1630
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: taking them, I don't know. It's such an up and

1631
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: down team.

1632
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are, Chuck going, Hyde Man, you don't know

1633
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: what you're getting.

1634
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: But I think they will bounce back after that embarrassing

1635
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: loss against the Utah Jazz. Embarrassing for that. They shouldn't

1636
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: have loss like that. It's basically a pick'm Philadelphia's favored

1637
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: by one and a half, so you guys have them

1638
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: to win by two or more.

1639
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm confident.

1640
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

1641
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: I actually when you put this line in or this game,

1642
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh the Calves man, Yeah, I hate

1643
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: like tough line too. It's like, I don't know, like

1644
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: the Cats could easily win by fifteen to nights.

1645
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 3: They could, they could.

1646
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: Blow them out. Yeah, they could get spanked, and the

1647
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: Sixers have played better.

1648
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 3: That was my reasoning. Just looked better recently.

1649
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, embea it has been pretty solid for the past

1650
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 4: three weeks really, and he could take it to the

1651
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 4: cabs inside.

1652
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just just like Phillies vibes

1653
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 3: and they're good. They're good.

1654
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do. I went into my drawer,

1655
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 2: my desk, grab a coin, a Canadian quarter, and I

1656
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: flipped at Wow. I didn't know what to do.

1657
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: Which was which like ches, heads, which was tails? The

1658
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,520
Speaker 3: moose moose was Cleveland Cavaliers.

1659
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 4: Nice.

1660
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: The queen had was the Sixers. Yeah, yeah, just so

1661
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 2: you know. So I flicked it the first time, dropped it.

1662
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to I'm not trying to catch and

1663
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: flip yet and I'm not calling it while it's on

1664
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: the floor.

1665
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 3: It doesn't count.

1666
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: What's your I got such a good flip, but my

1667
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: catching skills lacking hand eye cork.

1668
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: So you're third way to flip a coin would be

1669
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: on the thumb up in the air, catch it same

1670
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: hand and then slap.

1671
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: To like like I'm an NFL referee, which you want?

1672
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: Actually they know?

1673
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: They yeah, because you can't be messing with it. Slight

1674
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: of hand magic fannd.

1675
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: And hocyly loves his bicep.

1676
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so you got the caps. The coin says you

1677
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: have the cabs.

1678
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: That's correct.

1679
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: We got the six Ers. Okay, we'll be back tomorrow tonight.

1680
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: We learn of the I think we do right of

1681
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: the All Star starters, like the official ten names. We're

1682
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: not just learning the fan returns because that's been done.

1683
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1684
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: I literally don't know.

1685
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm not checking Twitter because Anthony Davis said there's all

1686
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 2: lies on those apps.

1687
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 1: Okay, we learned something tonight about the All Star starters.

1688
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: It's either just the fan returns the final fan returns,

1689
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: which is weird because then we still need to hear

1690
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: from the media and the players, or we get the

1691
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: actual ten starters tonight, which is what I thought we

1692
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: were getting.

1693
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay.

1694
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,520
Speaker 4: NBA announced that voting for the All Star Game concludes

1695
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: January fourteenth at eleven fifty nine pm Eastern.

1696
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so we're not learning anything never.

1697
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: No, man, I don't know. I honestly can't.

1698
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: They're messing with our All Star formats.

1699
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: Three Hall of Famers are among the twenty twenty six

1700
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 4: Castro Rising Stars.

1701
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: Coaches Carmelo Anthony, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady. And you know

1702
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: we got Austin Rivers in the mix, right He gets

1703
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: the G League team, does he? I assuming?

1704
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah?

1705
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we were gonna plan on maybe doing

1706
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: some All Star fun tomorrow. We might just pick our teams,

1707
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, why not?

1708
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we have a.

1709
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: Pretty good idea who the starter is going to be anyway,

1710
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: and then we can pick the rest of the starters.

1711
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: So we'll probably do that on tomorrow Show Live at

1712
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: ten am. Eastern hope to see you here on YouTube.

1713
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: Race the Day people, No, don't brace day Clipper roos.

1714
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: Have you heard it here first, have a great time,

1715
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 4: turn up, Love you guys awesome.

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01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember it's a caribou on

1717
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: the Canadian court or not a moose specifically, it's it

1718
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,520
Speaker 2: says a caribou bracket reindeer.

1719
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 3: And where I was.

1720
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: Called out by some medi medi KB on the stream team. Also,

1721
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 2: you Canadians, got two Canadians here, you couldn't call me

1722
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: out that I wasn't a move thought.

1723
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I was about to chime in, to

1724
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: be honest, but I thought, I don't want to be

1725
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 1: that guy.

1726
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: Let somebody in the stream team.

1727
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: Be that guy. So thanks for being that guy. Appreciate it.

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: Prace today people,