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Speaker 1: These one Bills Live presented by called Laida Help.

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Speaker 2: Good Afternoon, Bill's Mafia.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Week fourteen, as the ten and two Bills

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Speaker 3: take on the six and six Los.

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Speaker 2: Angeles Rams here in Inglewood, California.

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Speaker 3: At Silfi Stadium. Here's the snap working over the left side.

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Speaker 3: Flag flies again. He is in for the touchdown, so

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen from a yard out gets.

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Speaker 2: Seventh rushing touchdown of the season.

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Speaker 3: Martin gonna Aussi style hunted and it's blocked and it's

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Speaker 3: loose and the Rams are gonna pick it up. Hunter

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Speaker 3: Long the tight end has it and he's gonna run

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Speaker 3: it in for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Takes the snap, dumps it.

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Speaker 3: Down to Ty Johnson, gets a block, has another blocker.

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Speaker 2: And he's threw down the sideline. Ten five touchdown. Ty

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Speaker 2: Johnson on a forty one yard checkdown throw.

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Speaker 4: He takes it.

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Speaker 2: The distances the snap.

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Speaker 3: It's another end around to Coop on the left side

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna sail into the end zone completely untouched.

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Speaker 2: To pitch to the right side to Kyron.

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Speaker 3: Williams working his way to the pylon and he's in

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Speaker 3: for the touchdowns. Back to pass Alan over the middle

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Speaker 3: complete the Shakir forty thirty twenty, still on his feet

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Speaker 3: looking for the end zone and he's gonna make it

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Speaker 3: for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir old reliable back to pass. Bill's rushed four

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Speaker 2: over the.

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Speaker 3: Middle looking for Cupp in the end zone and he's

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Speaker 3: got it for the touchdown. Looking deep down the left

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Speaker 3: sideline for Shakir and he hangs on to the football.

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Speaker 2: Is he into the end zone?

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Speaker 3: They say he's down at the one yard line.

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Speaker 2: Alan in position to sneak this one over.

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Speaker 4: Gonna work over the.

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Speaker 2: Left side and he is in for the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Looking left, has all kinds of time now, Gonna flee

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Speaker 3: the pocket, take off and run green Grass thirty forty

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Speaker 3: fifty forty.

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Speaker 2: Five and he's out of bounds into Bram's territory. Back

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Speaker 2: to pass looking to the right side for Hollins. He's

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Speaker 2: got it for the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: What a beautiful throw by Josh Allen for a twenty

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Speaker 3: one yard touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Hookup Stafford with a quick throw.

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Speaker 3: It's a screen to Nakua who's got clear sailing to

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Speaker 3: the end zone.

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Speaker 2: It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Alan lines up. It's gonna be another sneak and the surge,

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Speaker 3: Ali's laying hill zone and there's the signal. Finally a

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Speaker 3: touchdown has fifty five seconds remain on the clock. It

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Speaker 3: is the end of the game as the time expires

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Speaker 3: as the touchback is called with triple zeros on the clock.

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Speaker 3: So the Bills seven game win streak has come to

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Speaker 3: an end as.

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Speaker 2: They fall forty four to forty two.

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Speaker 3: Here in Week fourteen at Sofi Stadium to the Rams.

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Speaker 3: That is your game rewind presented by Connectlife, an official

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Speaker 3: sponsor of the Buffalo Bills. Sign up to donate at

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Speaker 3: connectlife dot org. Well, that one turned into a barn burner.

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Speaker 3: After a slow start for the Bills. They climbed out

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Speaker 3: of a seventeen point hole, never had the lead, They

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Speaker 3: tied it at seven early, never pulled even again, and

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Speaker 3: we're fighting an uphill battle all the way due to

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Speaker 3: a performance that was largely carried by both offenses. The

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Speaker 3: defenses in this game for both sides could not stop

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Speaker 3: anything for most of the day. And it's we saw

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Speaker 3: a forty four to forty two final, the highest scoring

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Speaker 3: game in the league this season with eighty six combined points,

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Speaker 3: and we want your take on it. At eight h three, five,

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Speaker 3: eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty to weigh in

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Speaker 3: with your biggest takeaways from yesterday's forty four to forty

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Speaker 3: two defeat that effectively ended Buffalo's seven game winning streak

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Speaker 3: and maybe pointed out some deficiencies that the Bills have

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Speaker 3: to get corrected in at least two of their three

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Speaker 3: phases in a hurry, because they got to come right

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Speaker 3: back this week with another road game against arguably the

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Speaker 3: most complete team in football that we've seen this season

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Speaker 3: in the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people still can't get over that last

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Speaker 4: quarterback sneak. They went three to five on the day

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Speaker 4: trying to use in the quarterback sneak, and obviously the

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Speaker 4: only problem with the quarterback sneak was that if they

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Speaker 4: did make it, the clock wouldn't stop and they'd either

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Speaker 4: use a time out or get on the ball quick

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Speaker 4: and do it. I was telling the guys in the

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Speaker 4: control room. Some teams, I don't think the Bills would

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Speaker 4: do that. Some teams would just say, listen, if we

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Speaker 4: and what that doesn't you think? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Have you know mac Hollins twist his ankle and go

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Speaker 4: down hard and they stop the clock for an injury

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Speaker 4: and you get a ten second runoff or and then

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Speaker 4: you'd have time that time to spot the ball and

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Speaker 4: then you'd have that time to do it. There's all

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Speaker 4: kinds of ways you can manipulate the clock. The truth

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Speaker 4: of the matter is you got to get in. This

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Speaker 4: is exactly the kind of play where that Dan Campbell

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Speaker 4: had to sit on the entire offseason when they went

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Speaker 4: forward on fourth down in the NFC Championship game. Didn't

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Speaker 4: get it. When you look at what I think the

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Speaker 4: analytics would tell you is that play had the biggest

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Speaker 4: upside if it worked. You have you keep your third

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Speaker 4: time out, you're in the end zone. Clockstop, let's go,

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Speaker 4: and you got a chance to get the ball back

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Speaker 4: with just under a minute to go in the game,

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Speaker 4: rather than what you know, within the time running out

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Speaker 4: you gave the ball back to the Rams fifty nine

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Speaker 4: seconds left after the on side kick, you knew you

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Speaker 4: were never gonna get the on side kick. And I

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Speaker 4: was telling people, you know, this game was the Rams

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Speaker 4: beat the Bills exactly like the Bills had to beat

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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs three weeks ago. You got to

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Speaker 4: be up by nine with two minute warning. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: that's what the Rams were able to do that. The

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Speaker 4: block punt was a crusher. Oh so, yeah, that was

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Speaker 4: the I didn't have even in the moment. I did

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Speaker 4: not have a problem with the quarterback sneak call. It

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Speaker 4: was risky, no question about it, because of the clock.

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Speaker 4: But I was I was more shocked that they actually

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a pipe dream.

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Speaker 3: I thought that Sean McDermott was great in not using

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Speaker 3: a timeout on that drive. There was even a time

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Speaker 3: where my broadcast partner Eric Woods said, hey, I would

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Speaker 3: have probably called the time out there. They didn't and

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Speaker 3: found their way down the field to score there.

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Speaker 4: Got aided by a couple of penalties.

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Speaker 3: Yes, which stops the clock obviously and helps you. But

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Speaker 3: I thought he managed the clock very well in that drive,

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Speaker 3: you know, And then where do you go from there afterwards? Look,

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Speaker 3: you can it's certainly a debatable topic.

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Speaker 3: I understand Sean mcdermot's explanation when he was asked about it,

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Speaker 3: talking about the sneak play at the end, where he said,

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Speaker 3: in that moment, we decided to go with what we

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Speaker 3: felt was our best play and your best player by far,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: There are other ways to put the ball in Josh's

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Speaker 3: hands and have him execute a play too, and they

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Speaker 3: felt the sneak was the best option for them. I

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Speaker 3: think as a head coach you have to think of

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Speaker 3: all the possible outcomes too, and the outcome is there

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Speaker 3: are outcomes one fumble, lose the ball.

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Speaker 2: That can happen on any play.

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Speaker 3: We understand two you don't get in clock runs and

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Speaker 3: now I have to use one of my three timeouts,

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Speaker 3: which is the only vehicle I have to stop them

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Speaker 3: and force them to kick or make some kind of

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Speaker 3: decision on fourth down if we don't get an on

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Speaker 3: side kick on the ensuing kickoff. So that's your worst

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Speaker 3: case scenario running the ball. The worst case scenario throwing

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Speaker 3: but the clock does stop on a failed play failure,

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Speaker 3: meaning don't score the touchdown. That's the one thing that

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Speaker 3: I think people are.

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Speaker 2: Hung up on. And look, there are a myriad.

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Speaker 3: Of plays you could have called there where the clock

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Speaker 3: think that is the avenue that a lot of Bills

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Speaker 3: fans would have preferred that Sean McDermott took in that instance,

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Speaker 3: because you can still put the ball in number seventeen's.

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Speaker 2: Hands, and hell you could.

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Speaker 3: You could do what the Rams did with Stafford the

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Speaker 3: let him make the decision like I can get in myself.

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Speaker 3: I'm running it in, or we've got nothing here, I'm

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Speaker 3: throwing it out of the back of the end zone

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Speaker 3: to stop the clock. That's I think that's the hang

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Speaker 4: Sure, and that gives Josh the choice and all of that.

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Speaker 4: I think what one of the in the in that moment,

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Speaker 2: You know, our guys should be able to get us a.

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Speaker 4: Yard let's go. That's our play, that's our best player,

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Speaker 4: it's our you know, that's that's what we need to do.

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Speaker 4: And they just didn't get it done that which is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Now you can also argue, if that's what's largely expected,

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Speaker 4: You got to get in and Josh, you can see

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Speaker 4: here in the replay, just he didn't. He dropped the

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Speaker 4: ball about a six inches short. That was yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: but I'll say this, even if they score there, and

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Speaker 4: I know this is maybe sacrilege, they ain't winning that game.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, you know, first of all, you know that Sean

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Speaker 3: McVeigh and the Rams are going to take the same

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Speaker 3: approach that everybody takes with Mahomes. They were treating Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen like Patrick Mahomes. You can't kick a field goal

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Speaker 3: especially the way he was playing that football game. So

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Speaker 3: I know there were some people that were bent out

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Speaker 3: of shape that coach McDermott decided to back them up

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Speaker 3: on the penalty to make it fourth and sixteen. I

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Speaker 3: think it was rather than give Kline the penalty and

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Speaker 3: or sorry, third and sixteen, it would have been third

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Speaker 3: and sixteen, right, because no play, replay the down, take

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Speaker 3: the penalty third and sixteen, it wouldn't been fourth and sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Instead, it was going to be a fourth and five

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Speaker 2: they did. I think it was fourth and five.

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Speaker 4: And yes, fourth and five. They gained one fourth and six,

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Speaker 3: So, I don't care if it was fourth and sixth,

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Speaker 3: fourth and twenty. Sean McVay is going for it on

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Speaker 3: that play. He's not kicking a field goal. He's trying

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Speaker 3: to get the first down and kill the clock, just

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Speaker 3: the way the Lions did last week against the Packers,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, if you can kick the field

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Speaker 2: End of the game.

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing he was going for it on fourth down,

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Speaker 2: That's the only way I can go.

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Speaker 4: A fourth and five that you got by three yards anyway.

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Speaker 4: It comes down to, after all, if all your hopes

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Speaker 3: Look, if you lose it forty two, there is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was you're playing catch up the whole game.

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Speaker 3: That's another problem because it hasn't happened often, but when

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Speaker 2: Whether it's block field.

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Speaker 3: Goals, block punts long returns, which was a problem against

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Speaker 3: you just can't have it. And there weren't any yesterday

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Speaker 2: It is inexcusable.

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Speaker 3: It is an absolute cannot have it at any point

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Speaker 3: And then secondarily, you have to tell your rookie punt returner.

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Speaker 3: There are six seconds left, the clock is probably running out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to catch the ball and run there.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's got to let him know that. Although he's only

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Speaker 4: The pass rush was not good enough yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The defensive line did not show up yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The run defense was not there yesterday. They gave up.

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Speaker 4: The defense gave up thirty five points and at one

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Speaker 3: Or the only other third down stop came at the

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Speaker 4: Right the half ended. That's the half ended. They just

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Speaker 3: There were a half dozen times in the game yesterday

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Speaker 3: that is the bootleg passing game. We talked about it

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Speaker 2: And it never happened. In the game.

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Speaker 2: That's because the pass rush was zero.

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Speaker 4: That's right. And even on the other end, the pass

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Speaker 2: It was pitching catch yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And to me, you can argue day and night about

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Speaker 3: To me, you also got out schemed in this game,

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Speaker 3: The playmakers on offense for the Rams cavernous holes in

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Speaker 2: They didn't even look like they knew what was coming.

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Speaker 4: It was. It was as bad as this defense has looked.

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Speaker 4: Let me just think since.

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Speaker 2: Well probably since Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know they looked this bad. And then

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Speaker 3: This This was a most points they've got up since

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was. Yeah, they haven't given up this many

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Speaker 4: He said, we didn't execute at all. We didn't do

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Speaker 4: Last night it was. It was rough in a game

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Speaker 4: I mean, you wouldn't have known. The Rams punted twice

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Speaker 4: them was blocked and went the other way. Uh it,

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Speaker 4: I mean it. It was an absolute track meet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The the Just to paint the picture of how absent

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Speaker 3: Buffalo's defensive front was, five of the top six tacklers

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Speaker 3: in the game for the Bills were all five of

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Speaker 3: their defensive backs in the Nickel package and the other

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Speaker 3: and the sixth was to rel Bernard. So your top

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Speaker 3: six tacklers were five defensive backs into Rel Bernard.

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Speaker 2: That shows you how absent Buffalo's defensive line was.

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Speaker 3: In this game, and they didn't know what kind of

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Speaker 3: a difference does it make cavernous holes guys with a

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Speaker 3: full head of steam coming downhill at the back seven

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Speaker 3: best of luck.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: The Rams were seventy three percent on third down, eleven

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Speaker 4: of fifteen. At one point they were ten of eleven

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Speaker 4: or nine of ten.

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Speaker 3: And they came into the game thirtieth in the league

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Speaker 3: in third down conversion.

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Speaker 4: They were one of one on fourth down, five of

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Speaker 4: six in the red zone scoring touchdowns, two of three

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Speaker 4: in gold to got situations. They had four hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty seven yards of total offense. They had seventy two

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Speaker 4: offensive plays to the Bills fifty four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it might be it's hard not to think

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Speaker 3: like there was a lot. I mean even Josh mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: Lack of urgency from them. I mean, the Rams played

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Speaker 3: like a team that's fighting for their playoff lives, because

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Speaker 3: they quite frankly are, and they're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna win that. Let me tell you something. The Rams

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Speaker 4: are gonna win that division. The Bills are three to

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Speaker 4: one against the NFC West. They beat the Cardinals, the Niners,

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Speaker 4: and the Seahawks handily. That Rams team is one game

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Speaker 4: back of the Seahawks for the title. They're gonna win

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Speaker 4: that division. There's nobody out there that can play with

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Speaker 4: a healthy Rams team. Now they've they've been nicked up,

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Speaker 4: and think about what that game, how that game would

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Speaker 4: have gone differently without Nakua and Cup in the lineup,

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Speaker 4: which is where they were for a minute.

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Speaker 2: In the first month of the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they were one and four. They're gonna win

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Speaker 4: the West. They're gonna get in the playoffs. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna get in the playoffs. There's no way that team

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Speaker 4: doesn't get in and the you know, I'm obviously you know,

485
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Speaker 4: there's always that thing. Maybe down the road they'll meet

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm telling you that is a

487
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Speaker 4: good football team that finally played with all its all

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Speaker 4: its weapons, and they played like the Bills. You know,

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Speaker 4: they showed up asleep.

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Speaker 2: They weren't ready.

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Speaker 3: They certainly weren't ready on d and they were slow

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Speaker 3: out of the gate a little bit. Well, no, they

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Speaker 3: really weren't slow out of the gate on offense. They

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Speaker 3: scored right out of the gate, scored out the first possession.

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Speaker 3: So just a couple of notes here before we get

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Speaker 3: to your phone calls. At eight h three tozho five

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Speaker 3: fifty won eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 3: We got open lines for you. There, highest scoring game

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Speaker 3: of the season. Several milestones. As we know, this was

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Speaker 3: the first game in NFL history in which both teams

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Speaker 3: scored at least forty points and did not turn.

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Speaker 2: The ball over.

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Speaker 3: Entering Sunday. You've probably seen this number. Teams were two

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty five and zero in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: era when scoring at least six touchdowns and having zero

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Speaker 3: turnovers in a game including the playoffs, meaning the Bills

507
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Speaker 3: are the first team to lose such a game. Josh

508
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: had the first regular season game in NFL history with

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Speaker 3: three passing and three rushing touchdowns. It's only happened once before,

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Speaker 3: and it was in the playoffs. Hall of Famer Otto

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Speaker 3: Graham did it to the Lions in the nineteen to

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Speaker 3: fifty four NFL Championship game. Talk about winning a title

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Speaker 3: in a special way. Six touchdowns, Holy cow. Allan also

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Speaker 3: joined Michael Vick as the only players with at least

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Speaker 3: three passing touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns, three hundred passing yards

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Speaker 3: seventy five rushing yards in a single game. If you

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Speaker 3: lower that threshold to games with at least two passing

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Speaker 3: touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns. Allen now has five such

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Speaker 3: games in his career, breaking a tie with Hall of

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Speaker 3: Famer Steve Young for the most in NFL history, and

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Speaker 3: he's twenty.

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Speaker 2: Eight years old.

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Speaker 3: Allen's not the first player to account for six touchdowns

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Speaker 3: in a loss, however, there are seven other players in

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Speaker 3: NFL history to have done that. He isn't even the

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Speaker 3: only player to account for six touchdowns in a loss

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Speaker 3: to the Rams. Mahomes did it in a twenty eighteen

528
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Speaker 3: Monday Night Football Showdown three that was the highest scoring

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Speaker 3: game in NFL history. According to Pro Football Network's Playoff Predictor,

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Speaker 3: the Bills chances of being the top seed in the

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Speaker 3: AFC dropped just one percent, from fifteen point seven percent

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Speaker 3: to fourteen point seven percent. Meanwhile, the Rams chances of

533
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Speaker 3: making the playoffs is up to forty three percent and

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Speaker 3: to win the NFL NFC West is up to thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: As we said, with eighty six combined points, highest scoring

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Speaker 3: game of the season and highest in the league since

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Speaker 3: that Dolphins Broncos game last year in Week three, with

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins doing most of the work seventy to twenty

539
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Speaker 3: was the final there. Pukaakua, who Steve also talked about

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Speaker 3: Team I, twelve receptions, one hundred and sixty two yards

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Speaker 3: and a touchdown, also had a rushing touchdown. He joined

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Speaker 3: Hall of famers Jerry Rice and Lance Alworth as the

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Speaker 3: only wide receivers with at least one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: receiving yards, are receiving touchdown and a rushing touchdown in

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Speaker 3: a game. And he also now in twenty five career

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Speaker 3: games twenty five games, has one hundred and fifty nine catches.

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Speaker 3: It's the second most in an NFL player's career in

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Speaker 3: his first twenty five games, only bested by Odell Beckham Junior,

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Speaker 3: who had one hundred and seventy six in his first

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Speaker 3: twenty five games. Second best ever. He's a special kid man,

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Speaker 3: and he is tough to bring down.

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Speaker 2: He is a load. He's big, can run.

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Speaker 4: He's big and rangy, and you know he and Cup

554
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Speaker 4: catch everything. They're a special pair of receivers, and they

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Speaker 4: showed it last night. They were the difference in that game.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So we will step aside and take a break here.

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Speaker 3: But we begin with your phone calls. When we return.

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Speaker 3: So if you have your biggest takeaways from yesterday's game,

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Speaker 3: let us have it at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 3: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 2: We got open lines for you there.

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Speaker 3: We'll lead off with Luke in Rochester and Trevor and

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Speaker 3: Buffalo when we return here on one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 3: by Klida Health.

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Speaker 7: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to pass.

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Speaker 3: Look into the right side for Hollins. He's got it

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Speaker 3: for the touchdown. What a beautiful throat by Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: for a twenty one yard touchdown hook up. This week's

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Speaker 3: Player of the Game, as you guess, did quarterback Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: who went twenty two of thirty seven for three hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty two yards three touchdowns. Passing ten carries for

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Speaker 3: eighty two yards three rushing touchdowns, he essentially accounted for

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Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty four total yards of offense. Player

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Speaker 3: of the Week again in a loss?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that happens?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: They rarely give it to somebody loses a football game.

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Speaker 4: But I your top that who a they gonna give

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Speaker 4: it to you got six touchdowns?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, he descried to do it in regular season.

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Speaker 4: They may not. They maybe they have this unwritten rule

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Speaker 4: they aren't going to do it.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, I don't know how you don't.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy that in a game where they score forty two,

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Speaker 4: you can give it to him. You can give it

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Speaker 4: to him, and that's it's really the story of the game.

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Speaker 4: This offense showed up and played without Keon Coleman, without

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Speaker 4: Dalton Kinkaid, and you think, okay, all right, well they

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Speaker 4: hang forty two on these guys, and they're running up

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Speaker 4: and down and Josh looks like Superman out there. They

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Speaker 4: ran a couple of screen passes for the first time

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Speaker 4: in what a decade, two of them went and they

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Speaker 4: were difference makers in the first half. And then you

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Speaker 4: look at the third quarter and the rams. They're ten

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Speaker 4: of eleven on third down conversions after three quarters of play,

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Speaker 4: and the one that they didn't get was at the

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Speaker 4: end of the half. The defense was I mean they

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Speaker 4: It's as bad as I've ever seen him play. I

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Speaker 4: mean they They didn't stop the run, they didn't get

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Speaker 4: any turnovers. Stafford was playing seven on seven. It was unbelievable. Now, granted,

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Speaker 4: you know, they had some all time catches in that game,

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Speaker 4: a handful of them, but man, oh man, Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 3: The vast majority of them guys were open and running free.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was you know, you hear the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff here talk all the time about marrying the

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Speaker 3: pass rush with the coverage, and more often than not

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Speaker 3: they do an excellent job of that. And the pass

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Speaker 3: rush was just sorely absent yesterday, sorely absent, and it

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Speaker 3: left the guys on the back end with too much,

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Speaker 3: too much responsibility. You can't ask guys to cover for

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Speaker 3: four and five seconds, like it's just nobody can cover

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Speaker 3: someone for that long. The pass rush has to impact

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Speaker 3: the passer, and it just it didn't happen nearly enough

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Speaker 3: in the game, just did not happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they just did not alter Stafford's plan in any

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Speaker 4: play at all. He had he just green.

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Speaker 2: Pocket clean and more clean out on the edge, on

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Speaker 2: the rollout, and.

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Speaker 4: The run game. The run game was was too effective

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Speaker 4: in the first half. I don't the Rams were calling

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Speaker 4: whatever they wanted and they were in. They were rarely

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Speaker 4: on occasion behind the sticks. I think they had one

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Speaker 4: maybe third down and nine seven plus nine plus that

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Speaker 4: was it and they picked that up. Uh, it was

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Speaker 4: a really rough defensive outing.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the phones at eight h three zero

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Speaker 3: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 3: we lead off with Luke in Rochester.

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Speaker 2: What do you go for, is Luke?

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Speaker 9: Hi, guys, I found Steves. I'll turnative there to save

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Speaker 9: the time out. Interesting, but that's where an injury spake

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Speaker 9: ten seconds on up and yeah, go on to your

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Speaker 9: interc next play. But it really didn't have to come

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Speaker 9: to that. Most plays in DNA, I'll take four to

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Speaker 9: six seconds. They're already down at the one yard line.

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Speaker 9: It's not like that it's going to take more than

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Speaker 9: six seconds to line up for the next play and

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Speaker 9: sneak it in again.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's a tough one, Luke.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, it's good. I get you're saying, and that

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Speaker 4: that was brought up last night when he's just get

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Speaker 4: up real fast, line up and go again.

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Speaker 3: The rams are gonna get up slow. Yeah, delay, They're

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Speaker 3: gonna hold on to some guys and not let them

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Speaker 3: get up at the bottom of that pile. Yeah, twenty

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Speaker 3: two bodies on the turf. It could take ten or

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Speaker 3: eleven seconds, maybe twelve, right, they would get for.

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Speaker 2: That, No, they would. They wouldn't throw it back that.

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Speaker 4: They won't flow a fly.

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Speaker 2: You see it at the end of games all the time.

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Speaker 4: It happens.

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Speaker 2: I thinks that twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Bodies are gonna get up and line up and run

662
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: another play in four to six seconds. I think is

663
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: a little unreal.

664
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Speaker 4: But I get it. But yeah, I get it that

665
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: it would have been listen, it would anything to save

666
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: that timeout. I get it, and they couldn't do it.

667
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: I I say this, It was amazing that they got

668
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: down there to that point and hadn't used a timeout.

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Speaker 2: That was the.

670
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Speaker 4: Amazing part about the whole thing. But then they had

671
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: to blow it on a on a play like that,

672
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: that's pretty frustrating. But I'll say it again, they still

673
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: ain't winning that game. Even if he goes in easily.

674
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: They're not winning that game.

675
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: Because it's going to come down to fourth down, they're

676
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: probably going for it, and with the way the defense

677
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: had been playing, it's hard to believe they would have

678
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: gotten the absolute stuff that.

679
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: They needed at the end of the game. I mean,

680
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: it didn't get to that. Well. I mean, we know

681
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: what happened.

682
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: Uh, let's go back to the phones and to Trevor

683
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: in Buffalo.

684
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: Let me pull them up here.

685
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 10: What do you got for us, Trevor, Hi, guys, I

686
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 10: appreciate you taking my phone call, but I just wanted

687
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 10: to talk about the accepted pedalty late in the fourth

688
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 10: quarter yesterday.

689
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 11: With the way our Bills were, with the way the.

690
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 10: Defense was playing, I mean, you have to accept that

691
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 10: pedal and let them kick the field goal.

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00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 11: My Josh, and the offense run down and get I

693
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 11: don't think.

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00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: They're kicking because they went forth. They're going for it.

695
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 4: They went forward on fourth and one yard different.

696
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yeah.

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00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 11: I mean they could have went for it to I mean,

698
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 11: I think they were going I think I went for

699
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 11: it then at least I.

700
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: Think Dermott had a little bit of a timpt he

701
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 4: thought from their sideline attitude and what they were doing

702
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: with players running on and off the field. He thought

703
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 4: that they were going to go for that, and he said,

704
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take them back then if they're gonna go

705
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: for it, at least give me a chance, you know,

706
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: with ten extra yards.

707
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Right, they have two plays.

708
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 4: Then they have two plays, but they could still be

709
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: it be third and what was it fifteen or whatever?

710
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 5: Third?

711
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: And now it was third and seventeen.

712
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: Here's my thing with that, okay, And look, you can

713
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: slice this a thousand different ways, and we know that,

714
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: and we're all micromanaging and whatnot. So just to get

715
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: it completely straight it is, I just want to make

716
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: sure we have the down in distance right.

717
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: So it's third and it's fourth and fifteen. Oh no,

718
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: that's the wrong possession.

719
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: That's what the bills. Well, I'm not gonna find it

720
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: now because I can't pull it up at at the ready.

721
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: But in any event, they accept the penalty and it

722
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: became third and what'd you say, sixteen?

723
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: Third and sixteen? I believe yeah, I think.

724
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: I might have just taken fourth down and say this

725
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: is it here? Because two more plays runs more clock,

726
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like, two more plays

727
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: runs more clock. Let's just play fourth down, and this

728
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: is it right here. We either stop them dead if

729
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: they're going for it on fourth down and get the ball,

730
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: or they get the first down in the game's essentially

731
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: over anyway.

732
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Like, just give me the one play to make the

733
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: play here, it's over.

734
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 4: It might that might have been it, and or it

735
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: might have been Yeah, the game might have been over

736
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: right there.

737
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, third and sixteen, you're right, So third and third

738
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: and now that's when sorry, this is when it's like

739
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: four forty left.

740
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's the last possession, and it wasn't.

741
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: And I I, Steve and I are on the same

742
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: page with this. They were going for it no matter

743
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: what because they did not want to give the ball

744
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: back to Josh with it it.

745
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: Was down six.

746
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: It was exactly the same fourth and two play against

747
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 4: Kansas except it was five fourth and two play against

748
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 4: Kansas City in field goal range. You're not you know,

749
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 4: so you're gonna run it and go because you know

750
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: you've got to be up two scores against this offense.

751
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: So I guess why they weren't going to kick the

752
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: field goal, yeah, fifty four yard or anything.

753
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: So I thought, I don't know why, but for some reason,

754
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: I had this possession mixed up with the last possession,

755
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: so I get why you try to push them back.

756
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: Not necessarily so much for field goal range, but because

757
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: of the chunks in which they were breaking off yardage.

758
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: Give them sixteen yards to get a first down.

759
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 2: Not five.

760
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a I mean, it's a tough call

761
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: either way because the defense wasn't doing a whole lot

762
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: to stop the rams. So I don't know that it's

763
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 3: a huge difference here, but I guess you can argue

764
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: both sides. Let's go to Jim and Penfield next. What's up, Jim?

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00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 8: Hey, how you doing, guys? My problem yesterday was the

766
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 8: special team's return. I noticed that Eli was kicking short

767
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 8: because apparently they believe we don't have someone capable of

768
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 8: making a return. He kept cutting into the middle. He kept.

769
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: H are you talking about the Bills returner?

770
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: You're talking about kickoffs?

771
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the Bills returning kicks? Jim?

772
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 12: Are you there?

773
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: Jim? You're coming in and out. I can't hear you.

774
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: I can hear you now.

775
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: Oh, are you talking about the Bills returning kicks?

776
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 13: Yes?

777
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 8: I noticed that La kept kicking short and Buffalo kept

778
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 8: starting you know.

779
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: They had The Bills had six touchbacks in the game.

780
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: They only had two kick returns.

781
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: Lady. They let him return it late in the game.

782
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 8: They let him return Yeah, right, they kept him short.

783
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 8: But the other thing is is that I know what

784
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 8: happened to the running game. Did somebody tell me what

785
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 8: happened to the running game?

786
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 14: Play?

787
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: Our running game are theirs ours?

788
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 8: Because it was you're right, You're right.

789
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: The Bills did not run the ball well. They had

790
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and three yards rushing. Eighty of it was

791
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: Josh's twenty yards to the running.

792
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: Which are all which were all broken plays There were

793
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: really I mean, was there a draw in there?

794
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: Maybe some Josh's runs were out of the passing game,

795
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 4: all off screen. They were all out of the passing game,

796
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: So you really can't give that to the running game

797
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: at all.

798
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: James Kirk six carries twenty yards. Curtis Samuel won carry

799
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: on an end round for a yard. He tried to

800
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: cut it up inside and it didn't work.

801
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

802
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: Maybe Joe Brady and company felt the passing game was

803
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: working so well, they had matchups they liked. They clearly

804
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: went after Darius Williams the entire game and with great success.

805
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you look at that last you know, the the

806
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: last uh drive by the Bills. Bills at one fifty four,

807
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: Alan gets it, goes deep right to Cooper, deep left

808
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: to Cooper, deep left to Cooper. You know, then he

809
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: goes deep right to Hollins.

810
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 12: Uh.

811
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: You know, so he was trying. He was going at

812
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: Cooper in the first shot out of the gate with

813
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: one fifty four left, coming down with sixty five yards ago.

814
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: He went at Cooper and they and and was trying

815
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: to feed him the football. So it was, uh, they

816
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: had some matchups they like, they knew the Bills felt. Listen,

817
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: you walk into this game. The Rams were letting guys

818
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: rush for one hundred yards like every week.

819
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred and forty four on the ground on average,

820
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: twenty eighth against the run.

821
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: Right, so they're twenty eighth against run anything, okay, But

822
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: also coming into this game, their corners on the outside

823
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: were vulnerable. Yeah, they had been victim on torch, so

824
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: you figure this was going to be a game like

825
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: a forty two point game like the Bills got. They

826
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: didn't need the running game this week. Uh, but I'm

827
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: with you, I mean when you got that's what happens

828
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: when you're seventeen points down. You gotta start throwing This

829
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: is that's exactly the formula that the Buffalo Bills use

830
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: against other teams. And they got to break a huge

831
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 4: break with not just a defensive touchdown, but a special

832
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: team's block punt for a touchdown, which is the same thing.

833
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 4: So presto Changoh, you're seventeen points down, ten points down

834
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: at the half, and you're climbing out of it. There's

835
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: where you're running.

836
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: Seventeen in the third quarter was seventeen, thirty one, fourteen twice,

837
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: thirty one, fourteen, it was seventeen, and then it was

838
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: forty eight twenty one, and then it was thirty eight,

839
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty one, thirty eight twenty one. Then it

840
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: was yeah, then it was yeah.

841
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: So it was thirty eight twenty eight, and it just

842
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 2: kind of went back and forth.

843
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: It was it was yes, gotta take a break here,

844
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: more of your phone calls when we come back. Here

845
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00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,960
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00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: passing touchdowns or and three plus rushing touchdowns in a game.

853
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: Week fourteen was Allen's first career game with three or

854
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: more rushing touchdowns. Unfortunately it came in a loss. Let's

855
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: get back to the phones and we go to Rick

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00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: on a cell.

857
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 6: What's up, Rick, Hi, I don't understand why if the

858
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: defensive line is not getting there, they didn't call a

859
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: few blitzes.

860
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh they did.

861
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: It's not like they weren't picking our zone apart.

862
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: Anyways, they did call blitzes.

863
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 6: And in the second half.

864
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: Yes, and they didn't get there.

865
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 6: I didn't see it at all in the first first half.

866
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Less, you're right, Rick Less. So in the first

867
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: half they did call blitzes. In the second half and

868
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: they got victimized almost every time because they couldn't get

869
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: there for whatever reason. But they did call blitzes in

870
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: the second half. So Bobby Babbage did make adjustments in

871
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: the second half dialed up the pressure. As a matter

872
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: of fact, they called a blitz on a third down

873
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: in a goal to go situation and got the stop

874
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: and forced a field goal. There was a blitz there,

875
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: and I think that was in the first half. DeMar

876
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: Hamlin came through along with Bernard and they got to

877
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: stop and forced.

878
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: A field goal.

879
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: If I remember right, I'm remembering a red zone stop

880
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: on third down. I think it was at the end

881
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: of the first half.

882
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: They got, yeah, right, it was right at the end

883
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 4: of the first quarters. Their field goal. Oh, at the

884
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: end of the first half, they went seventeen to twenty. Yeah.

885
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: They scored touchdowns from there on out.

886
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that.

887
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: Field goal was the stop that they got, and that

888
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: there was a blitz call there that gotta stop. That

889
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: was probably the only one that got to stop in

890
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: the first half. Second half, they did call blitzes here

891
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: and there, but the Bills back in could not hold

892
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: up in man coverage because the blitz wasn't getting there.

893
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: Even when they sent extra guys. The Rams blocked it

894
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: up and it was a problem. Let's go to James

895
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: in Tonawanda. What's up, James?

896
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, said they felt like a playoff game with

897
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 13: the offense standing on its head doing great and the

898
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 13: defense just passive and non existent. And I read before

899
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 13: the game that under pressure, Stafford is like ranked thirtieth

900
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 13: in the league regarding the quarterback rankings under pressure. The

901
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 13: Rams line is Okay, They're not great, but they're a

902
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 13: good line. I'm talking about. The twenty nineteen NFL draft

903
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 13: was great for defensive tackles. I believe Williams went to

904
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 13: the Jets third overall. Buffalo had the choice of Simmons

905
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 13: who went to Tennessee, Wilkins who went to Miami, And

906
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 13: how beautiful would dex Lawrence looking Buffalo blue? And we

907
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 13: took ed Oliver. If it's a slug of an offensive guard,

908
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 13: ed Oliver's visible last year against Detroit, he's doing his

909
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 13: dance after a sack when he's playing against a third

910
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 13: string guard. I mean, this week we play the best

911
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 13: offensive line in the league in Detroit, and I just

912
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 13: can't imagine how much different conversations we'd have if we

913
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 13: were to have a different defensive tackle as opposed to

914
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 13: at Oliver. I'm not saying he's bussed or terrible. I'm

915
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 13: saying I think this year, he has one sack. I

916
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 13: watched the games. He's getting manhandled on double teams, and

917
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 13: he's been basically non existent. I mean, I think von

918
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 13: Miller's been playing much better than people thought. Rousseau I

919
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 13: think is great. Other than that, I don't see any

920
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 13: pass rush coming from any of these defensive linemen.

921
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair criticism.

922
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: James ed Oliver's performance this year is in stie contrast

923
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: to what it was last year. He had a nine

924
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: and a half sack season. Last year was a disruptive

925
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: menace on the inside for Buffalo, and this year we

926
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: just have not seen it. We have not seen the

927
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: ed Oliver of twenty twenty three to any degree in

928
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. It's kind of hard to believe. But

929
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: through what is it, thirteen games now, ed Oliver has

930
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: eight solo tackles, one sack, and eight quarterback hits. He

931
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: had nine and a half sacks last year and was

932
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: far more disruptive than we've seen this season. I think

933
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: he had a quarterback knockdown yesterday because I remember him

934
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: knocking Stafford to the ground after he threw a pass.

935
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: But other than that, I did not notice him myself.

936
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: And he looks like a completely different player this year.

937
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's easy on a day like they had yesterday,

938
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: you could pick out any defensive player you want and

939
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: criticize him because they know they'd all deserve some of it.

940
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: It was, you know, Arren Johnson got more penalties than

941
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: we'd ever seen him get. Rasul Douglas as well, although

942
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: he didn't even finish the game. The running game was

943
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: cutting through them seemingly way too easily. They were getting

944
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: caught off guard by the ends around in the sweeps.

945
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: It it was pretty frustrating I think for Bills fans

946
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: to watch that defense yesterday give up thirty five points

947
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: and feel good about it. They punted twice the entire game.

948
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: I think both were in the second half.

949
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't punt until the second half.

950
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 4: So and they gave They were ten after three quarters

951
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: of play. The Ram offense was ten of eleven on

952
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: third down and the one they didn't get we said earlier,

953
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 4: was at the end of the half when the game

954
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: the half was over. Just I mean, you can take

955
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: your pick, and I'm sure sitting in films today that's

956
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: what those guys are doing. They're getting talked to and

957
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 4: talking to each other about what it looked like because

958
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: it was not pretty.

959
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: Let's go to Kevin and Hamburg here right before the break.

960
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: What he got for us?

961
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 15: Kevin, Hey, guys, how anyone thanks for taking my car?

962
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 15: Josh again, as another one of those games where it

963
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 15: looks like we're getting coppered, we're getting spank two or

964
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 15: three times we fell behind like fourteen and seventeen. Josh

965
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 15: again goes into the phone booth, goa from calrd Kent

966
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 15: to Superman keep saving us and trying to get us

967
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 15: back in and the coaching staff like whether it be

968
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 15: and I'm not talking about the dumb penalty they shouldn't

969
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 15: shouldn't have done this or did that, but the blunder

970
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 15: on the timeout after the failed first down quarterback sneak

971
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 15: or whatever be. He keep having new with humility overplay

972
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 15: for coaching blunders, over and over and over again, keep

973
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 15: turning the Superman from Clark Kent and the constantly. It's like,

974
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 15: after the Houston game, how many mistakes and blunders can

975
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 15: you make? Coaching or failed timeout or whatever the case

976
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 15: need to be before but goold and Brandy means saying

977
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 15: this is ridiculous and it's gonna send us home in

978
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 15: the playoffs and we'll be waiting the next August. So,

979
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 15: like you know, it was blunder. So I'll hang up

980
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 15: and let you say it, ok.

981
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: Thanks, Vin.

982
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's you're making the best decision

983
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: you feel in the moment, and when it doesn't work,

984
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna get criticism for it.

985
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: And that's what happened on first and goal.

986
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: From the one they thought they were going with the best,

987
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: most reliable, highest efficiency play that they have and it

988
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: didn't work, and you had to burn a time out,

989
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: and as soon as you did, you knew what you

990
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: were up against after that, because you weren't going to

991
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: have a way to stop them on third down from

992
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 3: running the clock to fourth down. As Steve said earlier, though,

993
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: even if they get in on the first play and

994
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: you have three times outs, I still don't think your defense,

995
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 3: with the way they were playing, was going to stop

996
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: them on first I mean, even if they stop them

997
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: on first, second, and third down from getting a first down,

998
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: they use all three timeouts and now it's fourth down,

999
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: the Rams are unequivocally going for it there now if

1000
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: they don't get it, Okay, we can talk about it,

1001
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 3: but I just didn't see it happening with the way

1002
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: that game was going.

1003
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: I'll say this too. You call that play. You got

1004
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 4: them on their heels. It's the best play, it's the

1005
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 4: most efficient play you've got for a one yard game.

1006
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: You're putting in the hands of your best player, and

1007
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 4: you're telling your team that you can get it. Let's

1008
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: go as soon as you put Josh on a roll

1009
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: out and spread it out and all that. You're telling

1010
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: the offensive guy guys up front that you don't think

1011
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: they can do it.

1012
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: Uh.

1013
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 4: That has residual effects and there are no guarantees anything

1014
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: else either. And it's easy enough to say I like

1015
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: I like the lodge of it. You're telling your team

1016
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: you believe in them. They've shown that they can do it.

1017
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: You're playing the percentages of getting in because they've already

1018
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: they got stopped once in the first half on a

1019
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 4: quarterback sneak. So you've got some reps in this play.

1020
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: This would be this is gonna be the this is

1021
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: gonna be the third, this would be the fourth. It's

1022
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: about to be first and goal on the one right

1023
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: there is about to be the fourth quarterback sneak on

1024
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: the goal line. You've run that day, You've been successful

1025
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: in two of the three you've already run, and you

1026
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: got to feel like you're gonna be able to get

1027
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: in and if it does make it, that is your

1028
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 4: best chance to win the game. Right there, fast, quick

1029
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: play into the end zone, clock stops, let's go. Now,

1030
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: you've got three timeouts. Let's see what you can do

1031
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: that does give you, if successful, the best chance to

1032
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: win the game. But you got to get in. You've

1033
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: got to get in. And this is, you know, it's

1034
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: what head coaches sign up for. They're gonna take some

1035
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 4: heat when they make calls like this and the players,

1036
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: the players don't get it in.

1037
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: Break time for us.

1038
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: When we come back, we're going to catch up with

1039
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: Ben Solak from ESPN talk about this game. Also the

1040
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: week that was here in week fourteen. Next on One

1041
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1042
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: This the one Bills Live presented by Calllida Help.

1043
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: All Right, hour number two here on a Monday, Chris Brown,

1044
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you. Thanks for joining us here on

1045
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: One Bill Is Live and joining us now on the line.

1046
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: ESPN National NFL analysts Ben Solac joining us to kind

1047
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: of recap Week fourteen, and Ben, first of all, thanks

1048
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: for the time. Second, we'll begin with Bill's Rams, which

1049
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: turned into a barn burner. Not a lot of defense

1050
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: played in this one, as it was the highest scoring

1051
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: game of the year so far and the most points

1052
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: scored since Week three last year, when the Dolphins hung

1053
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: seventy on the Broncos in a seventy to twenty final.

1054
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: I guess what is your primary takeaway from this game,

1055
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: maybe first as it applies to the Bills, and then

1056
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: secondarily how it applies to the Rams in a hotly

1057
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 3: contested NFC West race.

1058
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, I struggle to get too worried about the Bills.

1059
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 16: I think the Bills are a really good AFC team,

1060
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 16: might be the best team in the AFC. Felt that

1061
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 16: way coming in field, that way coming out. Sometimes you

1062
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 16: run into an ninety nine percent on Matthew Stafford game

1063
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 16: and a ninety ninth percentile Pook and Nakua game, and

1064
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 16: you kind of just shrug your shoulders and you say,

1065
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 16: all right, go next.

1066
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 12: And that doesn't feel good, especially for.

1067
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 16: A team that is run into some ninety nine percentile

1068
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 16: Patrick Mahomes games over the years where you're doing a

1069
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 16: lot of stuff, right, You're you're contesting a lot of

1070
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 16: tight windows, you're making tackles, you're forcing third downs, and

1071
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 16: just you cannot get off the field against an elite

1072
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 16: quarterback who's just had the peak of his game.

1073
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 12: And so I don't get two foot touched you.

1074
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 16: I think you're a little bit concerned about what the

1075
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 16: Rams running game did to you. Kind of remember what

1076
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 16: that Ravens running game did to your front, and you're

1077
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 16: concerns about seeing that in the postseason.

1078
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 12: But overall, I don't get too too worried about the Bills.

1079
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 16: So I think are very good obviously, like Josh Allen,

1080
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 16: six touchdowns makes you feel a little bit better. And

1081
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 16: on the Rams side of the ball, yeah, we always

1082
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 16: knew the Rams had this sort of a game in

1083
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 16: them with Stafford and with Niakua. We've seen this before

1084
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 16: that that game against Detroit they played in the Wildcard

1085
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 16: round last year. You got to do this for a

1086
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 16: month for me to start taking this seriously. Right, they've

1087
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 16: been a very inconsistent offense.

1088
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 12: So they ran.

1089
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 16: Real hot against the Bills, right, what was it, twelve

1090
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 16: for fifteen on third downs? Whatever end up being I'm

1091
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 16: not sure that's going to be them every single week,

1092
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 16: so I'm pleased to see. It's always nice to see

1093
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 16: vintage Stafford. You got to do this for a full month.

1094
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 16: For me, started thinking you're gonna do this in the playoffs.

1095
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: And that's really what it looked like at first glance

1096
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 4: when you look at Pookaakua, Cooper Cup and Stafford. I

1097
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 4: mean they carried that team to a win. I mean

1098
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 4: they had a handful of catches in that game that

1099
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 4: were elite and preposterous. So you're you're thinking, yeah, right,

1100
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 4: so you're thinking a little bit like I am. They

1101
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: really hit on all cylinders. But this is kind of

1102
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 4: the offense they thought they were going to have if

1103
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: they were all healthy and could stay that way.

1104
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, And the limiting.

1105
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 16: Factor on the offense to this point has it, in

1106
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 16: my opinion, been the offensive line, where they've obviously had

1107
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 16: a ton of injuries and then they have some execution

1108
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 16: at errors and they've they've garnered a lot of penalties.

1109
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 16: They're starting to get healthier, and you're seeing that unit

1110
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 16: generate a little bit more chemistry and a little bit

1111
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 16: more cohesiveness, which is great. I think if you are

1112
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 16: walking away from this game with a Bills concern. In

1113
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 16: the passing game, I think you would have liked to

1114
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 16: have pressured Stafford a little bit more, actually got him

1115
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 16: down right, zero turnover, zero sacks. But you go back,

1116
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 16: can you watch it, and like, man, they're a half

1117
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 16: second away on so much of this right, they are

1118
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 16: right there in Stafford's falling backwards throw out fifty to

1119
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 16: fifty balls that Naku is making them right on, you know,

1120
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 16: like it's you would have liked to have had a

1121
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 16: bigger press presence in the defensive trenches just because that's

1122
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 16: how teams have been good against the Rams this season.

1123
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Speaker 16: But it's not like you were really deficient there. It's

1124
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 16: just you didn't give those one or two ringer plays,

1125
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 16: those those those big momentum shifting plays. And so yeah,

1126
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Speaker 16: if the Rams offensive line can continue to play like

1127
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 16: this against all the fronts they get, because Buffalo is

1128
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 16: pretty good front, then yeah, this we'll start to see

1129
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 16: this pass the game play out more consistently for Los Angeles.

1130
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: All right, And then how do you square Buffalo in

1131
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, an AFC race where the margin fererror is

1132
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: very limited and you have to get things right in

1133
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: a hurry against arguably one of the two best well

1134
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: not arguably, they are one of the two best teams

1135
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: in the NFC this week, in the Detroit Lions, whose

1136
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: offense subscribes to a lot of the same principles in scheming,

1137
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 3: and we'll often put Goff on rollouts and bootlegs.

1138
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's going to be interesting because the Lions, who obviously,

1139
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 16: like you know, Jared Goff is there and Ben Johnson,

1140
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 16: they borrowed a lot of stuff from the Rams. There's

1141
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 16: been some divergent evolution in terms of how these offenses work.

1142
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 16: And so the Rams walked into this Bills game being

1143
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 16: really really good against zone coverage and not so great

1144
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 16: against man coverage, right, And you saw them kind of

1145
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 16: light up the Bills in zone, and they also let

1146
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 16: them up in man. The Lions version of this offense

1147
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 16: tends to be really really good against man coverage.

1148
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 12: It's where they get their big explosives.

1149
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 16: Jameson Williams running away from people, Sam Laporter running away

1150
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 16: from guys. Against zone coverage, they're actually not as as prolific,

1151
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 16: right because it's they get tons of zone coverage. Jared

1152
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 16: Goff faces more cover three than any any quarterback in

1153
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 16: the league, but that's kind of their base offense, and

1154
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 16: when they go to hit their haymakers, they want to

1155
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 16: do it against man. And so I honestly think you're

1156
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 16: gonna have a better time, a better matchup in the

1157
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 16: defensive back seven for the Bills upcoming against the Lions

1158
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 16: than you did against the Rams, just because of what

1159
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 16: Golf is and isn't able to do and kind of

1160
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 16: how they get to their spots on the court. I

1161
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 16: am interested to see what the defensive front looks like

1162
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 16: against the Lions offensive line, because when you can't stop

1163
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 16: the lines running game and you can't win in the trenches,

1164
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 16: then they just lean on you from four quarters and

1165
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 16: even if this thing is close late, eventually the body

1166
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 16: body blows accumulating and you're in some trouble. And so

1167
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 16: it's a big game for the defensive frenches. Gotta be

1168
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 16: able to play big against the Lion's team. It's very

1169
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 16: big upfront.

1170
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really been the story for the Lions. They

1171
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: can lean on that running game a ton because they

1172
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: can't hit the big play whenever they need to, and

1173
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: that offensive line has been stellar, correct.

1174
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 16: Yeah, it has been I will say it is not

1175
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 16: as good as last year's line, and I think that

1176
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 16: that's somebody that's being missed right now, because obviously the

1177
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 16: lines of a great record, and then the offensive numbers

1178
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 16: are still great. But Taylor Deckers, I think shown signs

1179
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 16: being a little bit old, and obviously he missed last week.

1180
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 16: So Dan Skipper was there at left tackle, and then

1181
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 16: on the interior, obviously Jonah Jackson was with Detroit. Now

1182
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 16: with the Rams, they've got Kevin Zeitler and Graham Glasgow,

1183
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 16: which is a nice names are some famous names, but

1184
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 16: they are older fellas, and the play starts to tail

1185
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 16: off a little bit when you get into the quarter

1186
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 16: months long season. Frank ragnow their center is a great player,

1187
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 16: has been banged up last couple of years. His play

1188
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 16: starts to tail off. You saw this last year December

1189
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 16: into January as some of the lingering injuries accumulate.

1190
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Speaker 12: So it is a good line. It is not as

1191
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 12: good as it was last year.

1192
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 16: It's not like the best of the best that's Philadelphia

1193
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 16: on so it is gettable, especially on the interior.

1194
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: All right, So we pivot now to the rest of

1195
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: what happened in Week fourteen, and obviously the Chiefs are

1196
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: the headliner here, having played on Sunday Night Football, and

1197
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: it's nice to see that you've subscribed to what I

1198
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 3: think is also working in favor of the Chiefs. People

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Speaker 3: say they've you know, they've been praying better than anybody

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01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: else to win these one score games fifteenth straight now,

1201
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: and I said, no, they've.

1202
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: Made a deal with the devil. This is pure black magic.

1203
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: And sure enough there's your tweet last night with that

1204
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: Ricochet game winning kick. The Chiefs have now set the

1205
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: single season record for BMOE black magic over expectation. It

1206
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: is pure and utter dark magic. They have made a

1207
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: deal with the devil. I don't know if it's Andy Reid.

1208
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's Patrick Mahomes. It might be

1209
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: both of them, but there they are getting a doink

1210
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: to win the division.

1211
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: They're ninth straight and their fifteenth straight one score game.

1212
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 16: It's crazy what in vulnerability does to a team, right

1213
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 16: when you feel like you just can't die, like nothing

1214
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 16: will go wrong late in the game for you, which

1215
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 16: is I think kind of probably the opposite of how

1216
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 16: a lot of Bills fans feel about late game situations.

1217
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 16: But when you feel that way, you are not scared

1218
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 16: about just playing for a field goal, playing for the

1219
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 16: last second. Let's pick up our our first downs very slowly,

1220
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 16: very methodically. Oh no, it's third and long. Well, don't worry,

1221
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 16: we have fifteen. He'll make this right for us. Like

1222
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 16: they've just been in the in the rabbit hole, right,

1223
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 16: they've kind of been in that tricky, difficult spot in

1224
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 16: a late game situation where they're trailing so often and

1225
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 16: manage it so well so many times that the feeling

1226
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 16: of inevitability kind of becomes self perpetuating.

1227
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1228
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 16: It's like the other defense believes this is inevitable, the

1229
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 16: chiefs on offense believe this is inevitable. All of us

1230
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 16: watching at home feels like this is inevitable. So of

1231
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 16: course the kick bounces off the upright and goes in

1232
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 16: because everybody in the building just believe that even if

1233
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 16: they hit the upright, they were gonna get the lucky bounce.

1234
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1235
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 12: There becomes a level of confidence, right, a level of.

1236
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 16: Team execution where there's just there's just no doubt that

1237
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 16: they're going to get this done, and that enables them

1238
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 16: to be really really good executing down the stretch.

1239
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 4: So they're gonna lose a.

1240
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 16: One score game. Eventually, you can't flip a coin six

1241
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 16: exteen times. Haven't come up ahead sixteen times. Eventually, ghost tales,

1242
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 16: And we'll see if that's enough of the Bills to

1243
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 16: get back in the race for the one seed. We'll

1244
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 16: see if it comes in the playoffs, whenever it comes.

1245
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 16: But yeah, this will run out at some point. Just

1246
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 16: don't ask me when or how.

1247
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's really what the rest of the league

1248
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: is thinking. Okay, these guys are two straight, two times

1249
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: winning super Bowl champs. They're coming back for their third

1250
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 4: run at it. And I mean it may happen in

1251
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: you know, the division round of the NFL playoffs, or

1252
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: even the wild card if they do drop another game here,

1253
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 4: But it won't be a surprise, surprisingly to say that

1254
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 4: it won't be a surprise when the Chiefs luck runs out.

1255
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 16: Yeah, it will be a surprise in that it happens.

1256
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 16: And we think it's always they're always gonna win every

1257
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 16: single game, But it won't be a surprise because this

1258
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 16: is the law. This is the rule of the NFL.

1259
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 16: This is the rule of large numbers. Like, eventually, you

1260
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 16: cannot keep getting away with this. They've now won seven

1261
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 16: or excuse me, they won ten games by seven or fewer points.

1262
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 16: It ties a I think a nineteen sixties Oilers season

1263
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 16: if memory serves for the most such wins seven points

1264
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 16: or less in a season. Obviously they have four games left.

1265
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 16: They're probably going to get another one. It's just we

1266
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 16: know in the NFL that you can't keep doing that.

1267
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 16: And we know because of like you know, the science

1268
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 16: of coin flipping. Just because you get heads ten, eleven,

1269
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 16: twelve times in a row is not making any more

1270
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 16: likely hearing it heads the thirteenth time in a row.

1271
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 16: So I do believe that there is a level of

1272
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 16: confidence in the Chiefs. I do believe there is an

1273
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 16: expertise in late game execution. Right you think about maybe

1274
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 16: that that Bill's sneak there they ran against the Rams.

1275
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 16: I think that that's an era in late game execution.

1276
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 16: You wouldn't see the Chiefs make because they've just been

1277
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 16: down that road.

1278
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 12: So many times. They kind of know their environment a

1279
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 12: little bit better.

1280
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 16: So there's some skill to this, but there's a lot

1281
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 16: of luck to this, and eventually that luck flips the

1282
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 16: other way.

1283
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: There was another shootout that didn't get nearly as much attention.

1284
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: It was up in Minnesota, between the Vikings and the Falcons.

1285
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 3: And you know, Cousins throws for three forty four. Donald

1286
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: throws for three forty seven. But the difference is Donald

1287
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: has five touchdown passes and Cousins has two picks. In

1288
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: a homecoming for him back to Minnesota. There's some interesting

1289
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: quarterback dynamics here.

1290
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: One.

1291
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: By all indications, Donald and his people have not talked

1292
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: to the Vikings in them about an extension, And with

1293
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 3: each passing week, this guy's price is going up and

1294
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: there's gonna be teams interested in him if somehow he

1295
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: makes it to free agency. And then Cousins, I think

1296
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: he's got to start looking over his shoulder here because

1297
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: they're still I guess technically in a very muddled NFC

1298
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: South race. But I don't see the Falcons switching now

1299
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: to the rookie Pennix.

1300
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 12: It's interesting.

1301
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 16: I would like it if they did, because when you

1302
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 16: draft the guy, you start the clock on the guy. Right,

1303
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 16: you're saying, all right, we have a potential good quarterback

1304
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 16: on a rookie contract. Well, the candle's already burning, right,

1305
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 16: the guys in the building, the cheap years are already

1306
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 16: wasting away. So if you want to hit that window

1307
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 16: and build that contender in that rookie contract window, which

1308
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 16: has been the model for a lot of teams over

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Speaker 16: the last ten years.

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Speaker 12: You don't want to waste an offseason, right, You.

1311
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 16: Don't want to spend the twenty twenty five offseason trying

1312
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 16: to figure out how do.

1313
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 12: We protect Kirk. Yeah, if Penix is the future, you

1314
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 12: kind of want to know that.

1315
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 16: I don't think you're gonna figure out if he's the

1316
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 16: future or not in four games, though you're probably gonna

1317
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 16: get a leaning, a little bit of a sense the

1318
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 16: it's not gonna tilt it either way, and so I

1319
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 16: would understand if they wanted to play Kirk the rest

1320
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 16: of the way. The long and the short of it

1321
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 16: is when a quarterback has four consecutive games where he's

1322
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 16: got no touchdowns, he throws the interception, he's zero to

1323
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 16: eight touchdown interception ratio. Of the last four games, he's

1324
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 16: full with the ball four times, Like in any world

1325
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 16: we start talking about that quarterback potentially getting benched, like

1326
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 16: that quarterback potentially getting then that's just such a rough

1327
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 16: stretch of play in the world in which there's an

1328
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 16: eighth overall pick. Burn a hole in your pocket at

1329
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 16: QB two on the bench there, we definitely start having

1330
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 16: that conversation, so I think it's gonna be a something

1331
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 16: that gets discussed.

1332
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 12: I don't think they'll do it. I would like it

1333
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 12: if they did.

1334
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 16: The Sam Donald love it all man, I don't like

1335
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 16: if you can't bring Kevin O'Connell with him, I'm not

1336
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 16: sure i'd want to go for it because I think

1337
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 16: Kevin O'Connell's all.

1338
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 12: That in a bag of chips.

1339
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 16: But at the same time, yeah, the day he had

1340
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 16: against that Falcons defense is nothing to sneeze. He's playing

1341
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 16: a lot of confidence, and it's nice to see a

1342
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 16: young player get the experience necessarily start doing what you

1343
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 16: can and can't get away with, and then start to

1344
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 16: play real, real hot like Sam has. It kind of

1345
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 16: reminds us how quarterback development is never a linear process.

1346
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 16: Scott is the ups and Scott's downs.

1347
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 4: Is it a mirage? How how Darnold is playing? Will

1348
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 4: he be able to transplant himself if he does go

1349
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: to free agency?

1350
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 12: So it's always tricky, right? Is it a mirage? Yes?

1351
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 16: But also no, I'm reminded of Jared Goff's first time

1352
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 16: with the lines right with Ben Johnson there twenty twenty

1353
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 16: two where he's just kind of running all the Sean

1354
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 16: McVay stuff again, and like, Okay, we've seen this before,

1355
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 16: Like we know that there's a ceiling on this. We

1356
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 16: know that you can pressure Golf if you can take

1357
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 16: away the running game.

1358
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 12: Oh, like you know, it'll fall to pieces.

1359
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 16: But it turns out the second time doing it in

1360
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 16: that offense and getting good play in twenty twenty two

1361
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 16: and getting good paying twenty twenty three, you now end

1362
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 16: up with this point where like Golf at the end

1363
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 16: of last season and then into this season, has a

1364
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 16: much bigger control over the offense, has a lot more maturity.

1365
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 16: It's still like he's not the best play maker outside

1366
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 16: of structure scrambler guy, but Golf's absolutely like better than

1367
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 16: he was, and so it's sam. It is a little

1368
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 16: bit of a mirage in the sense that Kevin O'Connell's

1369
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 16: pulling a lot of the strings. The play actions working

1370
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 16: great for them. They make a lot of wide open

1371
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 16: throws down the field. They've one of the highest rates

1372
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 16: of open window throws more than ten yards down the field.

1373
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 12: Like that's all scheme, it's all Jefferson. That's great stuff.

1374
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 16: But at the same time, the longer a quarterback gets

1375
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 16: to live in that environment, the easier development becomes. Right

1376
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 16: when you get a house plant, you don't put it

1377
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 16: in the toughest part of the house just to see.

1378
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 12: If it can grow there.

1379
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 16: No, you put it in the sunny window, and you

1380
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 16: make sure you give it water. He makesure you feed it,

1381
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 16: and all of a sudden it's a nice, vigorous plan.

1382
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 16: Then he can deal a little bit more, and so

1383
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 16: it is a mirage, but it also fosters development, and

1384
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 16: so Sam might when he leaves this environment, be good enough.

1385
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 12: To hang without Kevin O'Connell. We kind of have to

1386
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 12: wait and see him find.

1387
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: Out AFC conference race now, ben So, Buffalo is still

1388
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 3: in the number two spot by virtue of strength of

1389
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: victory at this point over the Steelers because they don't

1390
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: have enough common games to use that as a tiebreaker.

1391
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: They have an identical conference record of seven and two.

1392
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that after this week

1393
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: against the Lions, the bill schedule gets considerably easier, certainly

1394
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: easier than Pittsburgh, who has Kansas City.

1395
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: Still on the schedule. And I want to say, no, they.

1396
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: Played Philadelphia Philadelphia that was the other team, So they've

1397
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 3: got a tougher go of it down the stretch here,

1398
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: and then Houston and Baltimore have dropped off. They are

1399
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: two games back of those two teams in the lost

1400
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: column and Baltimore running out of time to challenge for

1401
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: the division. Although with Pittsburgh's end of schedule, I suppose

1402
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 3: there's still a chance it could flip and the Chargers

1403
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: drop a costly one yesterday. So how do you kind

1404
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 3: of look at the playoff teams as they are currently constituted.

1405
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the.

1406
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 16: Bells are right, we say, clearly one of the best

1407
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 16: two teams in the AFC. Their matchup with the Ravens

1408
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 16: is tough because it definitely it's to the Ravens strength

1409
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 16: and we saw that in the regular season game, and

1410
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 16: so the Ravens are a tough draw for them. But

1411
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 16: this Bill seems extremely good dropping the game against the Rams. Notwithstanding, like, yeah,

1412
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 16: they should be able to be every AFC team in

1413
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 16: the field. They should be able to beat the Chiefs

1414
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 16: if they went and played in Kansas City right now.

1415
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 16: I mean the Chiefs would be favored because of the

1416
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 16: home field advantage, it because they're the Chiefs, But like

1417
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 16: I would be expecting Buffalo to win that game as

1418
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 16: an underdog every single time. So they're just a better

1419
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 16: team by every metric we've got, by every meaningful the

1420
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 16: thing that we can actually measure in the NFL field.

1421
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 16: It is a big deal to get the two seed

1422
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 16: over the three seat for the Steelers. Obviously if you

1423
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 16: like to play that game at home. Obviously Pittsburgh fans

1424
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 16: are going to travel well, and it's not too long

1425
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 16: of a travel, but you know that that Orchard Park

1426
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 16: is excuse things pretty heavily, and so getting the two

1427
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 16: over the three of the Steelers is a big deal.

1428
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 16: And I think the Bills are the best team in

1429
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 16: the AFC FLAFF picture. I think I've picked them to

1430
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 16: come out of that. I picked them to be the

1431
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 16: representative for the Super Bowl. I picked Josh Allen to

1432
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 16: be the MVP as we currently stand. With that said,

1433
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 16: for the four quarters that they play the Chiefs the

1434
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 16: conference championship game, yeah, you're you're sitting with your butt

1435
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 16: a little bit tight in the seat because you're playing

1436
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 16: the Chiefs, and you know how that goes this season.

1437
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 16: You know how that goes historically in the postseason for

1438
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 16: the Bills. So they're the best team. Let's find out

1439
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,879
Speaker 16: what that looks like when we get to January football.

1440
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just as you hone in on this,

1441
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: what do you think is the surprising development or could

1442
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 4: be as they get down to these you know, these

1443
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 4: last things. You get a twelve and one Detroit team

1444
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: and eleven and two Minnesota team and a Green Bay

1445
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 4: team at nine and four, and in the AFC you've

1446
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 4: got the Chiefs, You've got the Bills, You've got Pittsburg, Pittsburgh.

1447
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: You know what? And you know, so what what do

1448
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 4: you thoughts about? You know, the the way this tournament's

1449
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: gonna come out if some of these teams do, who's

1450
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: gonna be the surprise team? I guess is what I'm asking. Yeah,

1451
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 4: that's gonna got a chance to get in and usurp

1452
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 4: one of those teams.

1453
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm worried about Detroit in the NFC picture.

1454
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 16: They are really really hurt on defense and and they

1455
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 16: are hoping to get healthier alixe hanzalone back. There was

1456
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 16: the Jay Glazer report this week that Ian Hudgson back

1457
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 16: for the NFCTY Championship game. Maybe, but They've just lost

1458
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 16: a lot i depth along the defensive line. Everybody's dealing

1459
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 16: with nagging injuries there on the defensive side of the ball.

1460
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 16: I'm worried that they're gonna get a hot Sam Donald game,

1461
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 16: a hot Jordan Love game in the division round.

1462
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 12: They're gonna drop it. It's tough in the playoffs.

1463
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 16: It's best of ones, right, and if you're not the

1464
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 16: less healthy team, it matters a great deal. And so

1465
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 16: I'm worried about Detroit. Would not be surprised to see

1466
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 16: Green Bay be able to make a run, Minnesota be

1467
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 16: able to make a run there.

1468
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 12: Philadelphia is extremely good.

1469
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 16: I think that they're they're gonna make a long run

1470
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 16: and that we'll see if they get a home game,

1471
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 16: they get an away game, kind of what the matchup

1472
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 16: looks like there, because obviously their passing games a little limited,

1473
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 16: but the way they can run the ball and control

1474
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 16: tempocus so game flock from that defense, they're they're they're

1475
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 16: a for real threat AFC. I'll believe Baltimore is gonna,

1476
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 16: you know, not gonna lose a game when I see

1477
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 16: it like this is still such such a good team.

1478
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 16: Lamar is such a good player when they're on.

1479
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 17: They're on.

1480
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 16: Obviously defensively they are weaknesses, but they've playing better defensively

1481
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 16: over the last month. Like numbers wise, this is going

1482
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 16: from like a oh my god, bad unit to like,

1483
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 16: all right, this is good enough that we can maybe

1484
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 16: hide this unit. We can get our stops get off

1485
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 16: the field. Like I said, I think they match up

1486
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 16: nicely into the Bills. I think they match up nicely

1487
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 16: into the Chiefs too. And so Baltimore is still a

1488
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 16: team for me in the AFC that I have some

1489
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 16: faith in, even though I know the regular season is

1490
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 16: taking a bit of a downswing. And then the Chargers

1491
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 16: man like they could have won that game against the

1492
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 16: Chiefs right there. They didn't understand that they were really

1493
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 16: really hurt, Like lat McConkie was out of this game,

1494
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 16: and then Jalen Rager left this game during the game,

1495
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 16: and Will Disley left the game during the game. That's

1496
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 16: targets one and two between Disley and lad of Maconky.

1497
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 16: That right, you put a lot of trust in and

1498
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 16: Josh Palmer and Quentin Johnson, they're still moving the ball

1499
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 16: down the field. Herberts gets hurt before halftime. He comes out,

1500
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 16: he's gutting it out like they were banged up and

1501
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 16: they were going punch for punch with the Chiefs, and

1502
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 16: so to me, a healthy Chargers team in the playoffs

1503
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 16: also worth a little bit of an eyebrow raise. Also

1504
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 16: worth a little bit of a watch, Jim Harball team

1505
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 16: there in the postseason. Could be sneaky, could be fun.

1506
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: Ben, thanks for the time as always, We'll catch up

1507
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 3: with you down the line. Enjoy the home stretch here.

1508
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 12: Thanks Chris, thank you. Steve.

1509
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 4: Have going all right.

1510
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: That's been so like a ESPN national NFL analyst helping

1511
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 3: us out with the AFC playoff picture as well as

1512
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: the NFC picture in terms of who's going to get

1513
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: in the tournament here come the end, and there might

1514
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: be some dark horses in there as well.

1515
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: He didn't even mention Denver. I think that's a sneaky

1516
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: team too.

1517
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be a little frisky come the playoffs

1518
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 3: as well, with that defense that plays lights out and

1519
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 3: Boneck seems to be getting better each and every week.

1520
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: So I think that's another team to keep an eye

1521
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 3: on us as well. And don't count out Houston. I

1522
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: know they've run into a buzzsaw a couple of times

1523
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: had that bad Sunday night loss to Detroit when you

1524
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 3: know they gave up a huge lead and fell apart

1525
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 3: at the end the field. Look, we see the field

1526
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: as it exists now, and we are still a month

1527
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 3: away from the end of the regular season.

1528
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: We know we talk about it being a week week league.

1529
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: I think a lot can change in terms of how

1530
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: we think of these teams a month from now as

1531
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: opposed to right now.

1532
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot left of the season and some

1533
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 4: things are going to change. We'll see. It's you're right there.

1534
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 4: You look at the at the schedules coming down that

1535
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 4: down at the at the end, and the Steelers have

1536
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 4: I've got some problems coming up. I mean they've got Philly, Baltimore,

1537
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, and Cincinnati. Now Cincinnati might be a throwaway

1538
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 4: game at the end because by that time they'll be done. Uh,

1539
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 4: But the Chiefs, the Ravens, and the Eagles. Those are

1540
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 4: three playoff teams that are playing well and wanting to

1541
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 4: crescendo at the end of the game at the end

1542
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: of the season, just like the Steelers are at that

1543
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 4: those are going to be. That is a tough tough

1544
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 4: stretch to head into the playoffs off of for the

1545
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: Steelers and they're chasing the Bills for the two seed. Yeah,

1546
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 4: I think it's really intriguing certainly the Chiefs. Now. Now

1547
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 4: we'll see what the Chiefs do, and who knows whether

1548
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 4: they're gonna have a hangover or not if they go

1549
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: to Cleveland. Do we really hold out hope that Cleveland's

1550
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 4: gonna nick the Chiefs. No, even if it's in Cleveland,

1551
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 4: I do not know. I do not same with Houston, Pittsburgh,

1552
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 4: maybe Denver.

1553
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: Maybe Pittsburgh will be interesting because it's on a short week.

1554
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 3: It is Christmas Day, it's gonna be on a Wednesday.

1555
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: I think they play the previous Saturday short I mean

1556
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: four days playing again.

1557
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Need the game. That's gonna be tough, especially Week seventeen.

1558
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 4: I mean theoretically, theoretically one seed is still on the

1559
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: table for the Bills, but they have to run the

1560
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 4: table and the Chiefs have to lose two games.

1561
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: The other thing we have to keep in mind concerning

1562
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 3: the Bills game this week, Lions are coming off a

1563
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 3: mini buy. They're gonna be fresh coming into this game.

1564
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 3: I know they're nicked up on defense, but they're getting

1565
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 3: some players back As you heard Ben mentioned Alex Angeloon,

1566
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 3: the linebacker expected to be back this week. We'll see

1567
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 3: about their left tackle Taylor Decker, who's nicked up didn't

1568
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: play last week. So the injury reports for the Lions

1569
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: will be of of interest this week as we get

1570
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 3: closer and closer to this coming Sunday, when the Bills

1571
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: will take on the Lions four field, four to twenty

1572
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 3: five pm kickoff another National Window game at four twenty

1573
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 3: five in the afternoon. Got to take a break here,

1574
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: We want to get back to the phones at eight

1575
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 3: oh three, oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

1576
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 3: five fifty the number to get on board. Got open

1577
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 3: lines for you as we're looking for your biggest takeaways

1578
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: from yesterday's forty four to forty two defeat at the

1579
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 3: hands of the Rams. Here on one Bill's Live presented

1580
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 3: by KLATA Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This week's sufficient

1581
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 3: driver of the Game is presented by a National Grid,

1582
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 3: a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills. Fourth quarter ten

1583
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 3: plays ninety one yards, took four h three off the clock.

1584
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 3: Josh Allen with a frozen rope to Mac Collins for

1585
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: a twenty one yard touchdown pass. I thought it was

1586
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: his prettiest throw of the game. He also had a

1587
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: thirty yard scramble on that drive which ended up in

1588
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 3: the end zone. And now mac collins said a single

1589
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 3: season career high with his fifth touchdown reception. You know,

1590
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 3: mc collins comes to his team in the offseason and

1591
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: people are expecting a Jake Coomer o'clone. He has been

1592
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 3: much more than that, especially when you consider the absences

1593
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: in the receiving corps this season, with Amari Cooper missing

1594
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 3: a couple of games, Kean Coleman having now missed four games,

1595
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: and Dalton kin Kate missing a month of the season.

1596
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 3: Hollins has been a huge void filler for this passing.

1597
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 4: Game and he's been steady. H He hasn't been one

1598
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 4: of those guys that's dropped a ton of targets. The

1599
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 4: other day yesterday it was four catches, six targets. Yeah,

1600
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 4: he's been a huge find for the Bills and a

1601
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 4: big contributor. And I'm yeah, he's been an upgrade in

1602
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: every way at the number two wide out, whoever is

1603
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 4: number one, whoever the number one has been week to

1604
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 4: week basis, he has been an enormous upgrade at number two.

1605
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 3: We got to get back to the phone. He's got

1606
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 3: a lot of people holding and waiting. So leading us

1607
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 3: off this segment is Tom out and Penfield. What do

1608
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: you got for his tim You're on one Bill's.

1609
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 18: Live, Gentlemen's always a pleasure, Steve, It's an oring to

1610
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 18: talk to you again. You put special teams on the map,

1611
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 18: needless to say. And you need to be in the

1612
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 18: Hall of Fame next Tuesday. Let's let's shoot for that. Anyhow,

1613
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 18: what a what a blur, such a blur watching this

1614
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 18: young man's talent on the field. I mean, I forgot

1615
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 18: that he had three rushing touchdowns, and you know during

1616
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 18: the game, because you get into the game and you're

1617
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 18: not keeping track of all the stats. My question is,

1618
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 18: with all the experts radio included, no Sense and television,

1619
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 18: I've not heard anybody talk about why we didn't go

1620
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 18: for any two points conversions on any of those six

1621
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 18: Just just food for thought. Thank you, gentlemen.

1622
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: You bet, I mean at the very end, I'm assuming

1623
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: you're thinking about chasing points at.

1624
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: The end there, so.

1625
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, it's you were down three

1626
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 3: thirty eight, thirty five when you score. I don't know

1627
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,440
Speaker 3: if you want to chase points there, because there's still.

1628
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 4: Well, you would have been down thirty four thirty eight

1629
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 4: if you didn't get.

1630
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: It right, So yeah, being down four instead of down too,

1631
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 3: there's no value there. I mean, a field goal obviously

1632
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: would put you ahead, but with the way that game's going,

1633
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: there's no there's no reasonable way to get to a

1634
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: place where you say, well, we'll get the stop here

1635
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: and then we'll only be down too, and a field

1636
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 3: goal wins the game with eight forty left, Like, I

1637
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 3: don't think you're doing it there.

1638
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 4: I don't see any tactical reason for doing it.

1639
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 3: Then you're down nine because they miss an extra point.

1640
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: I think that reduces the incentive to go for two,

1641
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 3: because now a touchdown pulls you to within two with

1642
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: an extra point, and a field goal wins you the game.

1643
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 3: So I don't think there was any need to go

1644
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 3: for two based on how the last two exchanges of

1645
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: scoring plays unfolded at the end of the game.

1646
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 4: And I think statistically speaking, once you start going for two,

1647
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 4: you got to go every time unless you get one,

1648
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 4: because you're a coin flip. The stats say it's a

1649
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty option, you get two points half the

1650
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 4: time you go for it. So if you if you

1651
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 4: go for it and don't get it, you gotta go

1652
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 4: for it the next time, and that gets you right

1653
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 4: back to where you were otherwise.

1654
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 3: And I don't know, maybe he's talking about earlier in

1655
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 3: the game when you're down, I guess you have to

1656
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 3: chasing it.

1657
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 4: I mean, they're scoring seven touchdowns in this game, so

1658
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 4: for five touchdowns, six touchdowns in this game. So I

1659
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 4: don't know.

1660
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 3: I would say definitely not at the end of the

1661
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 3: game the way it unfolded, especially after that missed an

1662
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 3: extra point, because that gave you the extra to me,

1663
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: that gives you more incentive to just gave you your

1664
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 3: extra point because they're giving you a point back already.

1665
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: So if you were talking about earlier in the game

1666
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 3: when they were down seventeen a couple of times, I

1667
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: guess I'm not a huge fan of chasing points with

1668
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: that much time left in a game.

1669
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: That's just not me.

1670
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 3: Now, if I'm down, you know, twenty four or thirty, well, yeah,

1671
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm going for two every time because I'm trying to

1672
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 3: score as many points as possible every time I score,

1673
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 3: So that might be different seventeen with the with the

1674
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 3: time left in the game and the way Josh was

1675
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: playing on offense, probably not.

1676
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in Alabama next. What's up Mike?

1677
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 19: Hey, Hi, So a couple points that I don't think

1678
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 19: have been discussed yet. I missed an hour or so

1679
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 19: this morning. You know, a lot of discussion has been

1680
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 19: about whether to take the penalty or not. I think

1681
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 19: one of the reasons why we should not have taken

1682
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 19: the penalty is the time considering we had third and

1683
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 19: seven I think it was, and had we it would

1684
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 19: have been fourth down at seven if I'm not mistaken.

1685
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 19: We took the penalty and gained the ten yards in

1686
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 19: field position. They had a successful completion that burned six

1687
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 19: or seven seconds, took a few seconds to spot the ball.

1688
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 19: They ran another thirty thirty five seconds off the clock

1689
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 19: to play fourth down. So that's our fifty seconds forty

1690
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 19: five seconds of time that we needed at the end

1691
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 19: of the game. So I think that was the reason

1692
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 19: why we should never have accepted the penalty.

1693
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it turns out that way, but you didn't know

1694
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 4: that going forward on fourth and five before you gave

1695
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 4: him the third down try from third to seventeen. You

1696
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 4: didn't know that they weren't going to get it.

1697
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 3: You're hopeing your defense can keep them from getting sixteen

1698
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: yards on two plays. Right now, it hadn't gone that

1699
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: well to that point in the game defensively.

1700
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 4: And at that point you're down three.

1701
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: You're down three.

1702
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: So but it's third and seven at the Buffalo thirty seven.

1703
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 3: They have the penalty at the four to forty seven mark.

1704
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: That plague takes seven seconds off the clock. Bills choose

1705
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 3: to enforce the penalty, which was a nine yard penalty,

1706
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: to make it third and sixteen at the four to

1707
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: forty mark. By the time they get to fourth down,

1708
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: it's three point fifty three left, and the fresh set

1709
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 3: of downs they run the clock down to three ten.

1710
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 3: So you lost a minute and thirty seconds on those

1711
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 3: three plays, the no play, the third and sixteen, the

1712
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 3: fourth and five. Now, once they converted it, it was

1713
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: kind of immaterial because they were going to hold onto

1714
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 3: the ball and run as much clock as they could,

1715
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 3: right presumably, I mean, Sean said yesterday he wanted to

1716
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: back them up to take them out of field goal range.

1717
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm not going to convince they would have kicked the

1718
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 3: field goal unless they were stopped inside the twenty yard line.

1719
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: I think they were going.

1720
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 3: For it to work as much clock off as possible.

1721
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 3: I think they were going to take the same approach

1722
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: we saw the Lions take in a tie ball game,

1723
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 3: and the Rams were up three, they would have even

1724
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 3: more incentive in my mind, to go for it on

1725
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: fourth down than even the Lions did the other night

1726
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: against the Packers when they were tied and they went

1727
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 3: for it.

1728
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 4: That's right. I'm kind of with you on that. I

1729
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 4: think McDermott got a clue from their activity on their

1730
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 4: sideline and body language from their players that they were

1731
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 4: going to go for that fourth down, so he wanted

1732
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 4: to move them back and go third and sixteen and

1733
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 4: force him to go two plays to get it. I

1734
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 4: don't think the clock was as big a factor there.

1735
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about having three minutes left. If

1736
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 4: you're up three or down three instead of down nine,

1737
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 4: that's a big difference. You're trying to get the ball

1738
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 4: back down three, not down nine, and that's the difference.

1739
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 4: You give up the fourth down conversion all of a sudden.

1740
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: Now it's a different game, but you're trying to keep

1741
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 4: the ball. You're trying to stay down three.

1742
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, your operating our last caller is arguing that if

1743
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 3: you don't take the penalty and you just go fourth

1744
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 3: and six, then you save the time that that got

1745
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: burned on the next two plays. But you're assuming they're

1746
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 3: getting the fourth down stop on fourth and six and

1747
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 3: two plays later. They didn't get it on fourth and

1748
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 3: five when facing a third and sixteen. They were in

1749
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: the rams, were in a worse down and distant situation.

1750
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: They had two plays, not one, and they got it anyway,

1751
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 3: because they end up converting a fourth and five at

1752
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 3: the thirty five with an eleven yard play. Arguably they

1753
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: go to that same play on fourth and six if

1754
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 3: you don't take the penalty and convert it anywhere and.

1755
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: All they go. Then they waved off a fifty four

1756
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 4: yard field goal and waved off a fifty five yard field.

1757
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: Goal and ended up getting a nineteen yard touchdown.

1758
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 4: And get the touchdown instead.

1759
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 3: Let's jump back on the phone lines here and let

1760
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 3: me see who's been waiting the long years.

1761
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: It's Judy and Buffalo. What's up, Judy?

1762
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 20: Okay, I have a couple of questions now, cool, If

1763
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 20: I'm not mistaken was taken in the fourth round. I

1764
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 20: would like to know what what the Bill who or

1765
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 20: who the Bill's drafted in the first three rounds.

1766
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 8: That's question one.

1767
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 18: Okay.

1768
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 20: Secondly, I don't know if Raewell Douglas is injured or not,

1769
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 20: but if so, does that mean that our number one

1770
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 20: draft choice Elon will be elevated from special teams to cornerback?

1771
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 8: Hello?

1772
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, Puka Nikua was a fifth round

1773
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 3: draft choice the year he was drafted, which was twenty

1774
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 3: twenty three, So we're going to last year's draft, the

1775
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 3: year before this past season. So Bill's twenty twenty three

1776
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 3: draft class essentially is what we're looking at.

1777
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: And look, we.

1778
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: Have to remember this, the entire league passed on him

1779
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 3: five times before the Rams picked him in the fifth round,

1780
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 3: and the Rams even passed on him. But you're looking

1781
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 3: at the draft that had Dalton Kincaid, Osiris Torrance, and

1782
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Dorian Williams. Now in the fifth round, the Bills took

1783
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. It was Justin Shorter. I believe that

1784
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 3: was after the Rams pick, but I'll have to check.

1785
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, I.

1786
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 3: Mean, look, Pookin Nakua was a fantastic find. In the

1787
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 3: fifth round, so is Khalil Shakir a few years ago.

1788
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 3: The Bills have some of their own late round gems

1789
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 3: as well, Tarren Johnson fourth round pick, Christian Benford's sixth

1790
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 3: round pick. The rest of the league passed on Pukin

1791
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: Nakua as well five times, so to me, that's kind

1792
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 3: of Hey, Look, the Rams did their homework. They found

1793
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 3: a guy in the fifth round that they liked a lot,

1794
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 3: and it worked out for them.

1795
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to see what it took.

1796
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 4: He was overall? They took Yeah, they took Dalton Kincaid,

1797
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 4: they took Osiris Torrance. Yeah, I went through that Williams,

1798
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 4: Dorian Williams. Was it Ray?

1799
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 3: He was one hundred and seventy seventh overall? So yeah,

1800
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 3: could the Bills and everybody else have gotten him in

1801
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 3: round five? Yes, Bills took Justin Shorter that year. As

1802
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 3: far as the kyer Elam discussion, so Raeul Douglas suffers

1803
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 3: a back injury, re enters the game, plays the series,

1804
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 3: and then leaves with a knee injury, so his status

1805
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: will be interesting this week. He was getting picked on,

1806
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: particularly in man coverage and had a tough time so

1807
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 3: did everybody on defense quite frankly, and how they work

1808
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 3: that this week will be interesting. JaMarcus Ingram came in

1809
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:57,520
Speaker 3: to replace Raseul Douglas in the game Kyer Elam was inactive.

1810
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 3: He was not even active for the game. He was

1811
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: also active last week. Now, if Douglas is down, Elim

1812
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 3: will be active this week. The question is will he

1813
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: be on defense or will he play on special teams only.

1814
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:16,919
Speaker 3: That is an interesting debate because you've got a high powered,

1815
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 3: high octane passing game of the Lions.

1816
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 2: They thrive against man coverage.

1817
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: I would argue that Elan plays very good in man coverage.

1818
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 3: I still think there are some deficiencies to his game

1819
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 3: in zone coverage, and I think that's why he's found

1820
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 3: it hard to get on the field because this is

1821
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:38,520
Speaker 3: a defense that plays predominantly zone coverage in pass coverage defensively,

1822
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: and JaMarcus Ingram might be deemed a better option. We'll

1823
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: have to see what they decide if and when Rasul

1824
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 3: Douglas is ruled out for this week. If he is

1825
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 3: with a knee injury.

1826
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's obvious. Whoever, who's the dB that

1827
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 4: played in You just Mentionedus Ingram JaMarcus Ingram is undoubtedly

1828
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 4: thought of as a better option because he's active and

1829
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 4: played and Kyir was inactive. I mean, that's that's not

1830
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: going to change.

1831
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: But if you're down a corner, you have to bring

1832
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 3: him up. So you have numbers at Christ at the position.

1833
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 4: That's right. But he'll be you know, he's filling out

1834
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 4: the roster. That's all there is to it.

1835
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 3: Gotta break here more of your phone calls when we

1836
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: come back on a Buffalo Football Monday. Here on One

1837
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 3: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills.

1838
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 21: Radio Bill's fans.

1839
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 3: You could win a trip to Super Bowl fifty nine

1840
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 3: in New Orleans, entered now at Buffalo bills dot com.

1841
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Forward slash super Bowl Sweeps to be entered to win

1842
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: a trip for two to the Super Bowl, including flights

1843
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: and hotels.

1844
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 4: Good luck.

1845
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: Got to get right back to the phones at eight

1846
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: oh three five point fifty one eight eight eight five

1847
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 3: fifty two. Kenny in Indiana, What do you got for us?

1848
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 3: Kenny or All one Bills Live?

1849
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing? Merry Christmas season to you?

1850
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 5: The first thing I need to say is thank God

1851
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 5: once again for Josh Allen. Yesterday's game ranks right up

1852
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 5: there with the thirteen second game in the category of

1853
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 5: what else can this guy possibly be expected to do?

1854
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 5: But other than that, my point is the one seed.

1855
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 5: I think it's best for everybody, myself included, to just

1856
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 5: alleviate the stress and just forget about the one seed.

1857
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 5: Consider it off the table. The Bills would have to

1858
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 5: win out and they need Kansas City to drop two.

1859
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 5: That's not likely to happen, or else the Bills could

1860
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 5: even drop one and then the Chiefs would have to

1861
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,919
Speaker 5: lose three. That is not going to happen. So everybody

1862
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 5: just needs to forget about the one seed and enjoy

1863
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 5: their holiday. But otherwise, if you're going to think about anything,

1864
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 5: worry about anything. Worry about this defense, because they got

1865
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 5: exposed big time in that if they're not taking the

1866
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 5: ball away, we can lose any game that we're favored

1867
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 5: to win. And it really makes me nervous about Detroit

1868
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 5: next week. Who goes forward on fourth down more than

1869
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 5: anybody in the league. Fundamentally, I'm just really scared about

1870
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 5: that game. And I know I'm not the only one.

1871
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 5: But anyway, I'll listen to you guys talk and again,

1872
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 5: Happy holidays, Go Bill too.

1873
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 3: Kenny, A good call, and look, you're right. The Bills

1874
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 3: did get exposed defensively. And it's interesting because Steve and

1875
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 3: I in our Bills by the Numbers podcast last week

1876
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 3: talked about the takeaway prowess of this Bill's defense, who

1877
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 3: up until yesterday had at least one takeaway in every

1878
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 3: game this season. And I think we even posed the

1879
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 3: question on the podcast. We said, is there a concern

1880
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 3: with the way they have been playing defense? If the

1881
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 3: takeaways dry up, what will they be left with? Will

1882
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 3: the defense be good enough? And I think we said

1883
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 3: on the podcast it's a valid concern, but as long

1884
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: as it's working, we'll see how far they can take it.

1885
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Because takeaways don't last forever. There are no guarantees you're

1886
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 3: going to get them. The Bills have been extraordinarily productive

1887
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 3: in taking the ball away. It did not happen yesterday,

1888
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 3: and they lose by the skin of their teeth. And

1889
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 3: the overarching problem is clearly the defense and special teams

1890
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 3: had a hand in it as well as we know.

1891
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 3: So going forward, do you feel that this defense is

1892
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 3: equipped to win games without having takeaways? Even if your

1893
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 3: offense plays perfectly and doesn't turn it over themselves yesterday

1894
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 3: would be indication that they might not be when playing

1895
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: some of the best teams in the league, which is

1896
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 3: what you're going to be doing when you get to

1897
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1898
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, a game that went

1899
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 4: as this one did so good for the offense and

1900
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 4: that you know, heroic for Josh and you're right, MVP

1901
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,799
Speaker 4: caliber stuff, all of that stuff, it really highlights where

1902
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 4: your concerns are. And in a game that it looks

1903
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 4: this bad, your concerns are heightened. There's no there's there's

1904
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 4: no other way to put it. Special teams had a

1905
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 4: catastrophic failure and then had a mental blunder at the

1906
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 4: end of the game, and your defense had had no answers.

1907
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 4: Now granted, and we had you know, Ben Solak on

1908
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 4: earlier and he'll and he said the same thing I

1909
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 4: did last night. La put it all together that last

1910
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 4: night their offense was everything they hoped and dreamed it

1911
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 4: would be when the season began. And on top of that,

1912
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 4: they had some you know, some unbelievably elite ninety ninth

1913
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 4: percentile catches from two guys that are good. So all

1914
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 4: of that put into it made the defense look even worse.

1915
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 4: But having said that, even they just they just didn't

1916
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 4: hold their into the bargain up against a great offense. Yeah,

1917
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 4: playing great, Yeah, but man oh man, a ten of

1918
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 4: eleven on third downs through three quarters of football is

1919
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 4: not a recipe for success. And this defense could not

1920
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 4: find any answers. Nobody, nobody even stepped up at all

1921
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: any time, at any point and made a play. There

1922
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 4: was a difference maker anywhere defensive backs, linebackers, defensive line.

1923
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 12: Nothing.

1924
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 4: That's the concerning part. Yeah, that you had a game

1925
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 4: like that where not you didn't have anybody stepped to

1926
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 4: the table and just make and let's let's face it,

1927
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 4: it's a two point game. You're looking for like one

1928
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 4: guy in one crucial moment to make one good play,

1929
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 4: and they couldn't get it done.

1930
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was to me, that's the overarching issue

1931
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 3: to play the defense in this one.

1932
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Jim in Grand Islands, up next, what you got.

1933
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 22: Jim, Hey, hie, Steve, Hey, Chris, thanks for taking my call.

1934
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 8: Sure, Steve O.

1935
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 22: The directors towards you a little bit.

1936
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

1937
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 22: One big thing yesterday's game was the fact, obviously the

1938
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 22: black punt that took it in for a Touchdowunder that

1939
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 22: whole game, we kept on saying to ourselves over here

1940
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 22: that you know, if we didn't that didn't happen this

1941
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 22: same you know we'd have the lead most of the game.

1942
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 22: So my question to you guys is special team coach.

1943
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 22: I know that we've got him. Let's see, we lost

1944
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 22: two games last year, if I remember correctly, we lost

1945
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 22: to the Jets on a punt return and overtime opening Day,

1946
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Speaker 22: and then obviously twelve men on the field against the

1947
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Speaker 22: Broncos Dorsey's last game, which I still think they high

1948
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Speaker 22: fired the wrong person. Then obviously yesterday's game. Yeah, a

1949
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Speaker 22: black punt is one thing, but nine men on the

1950
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Speaker 22: field at the end of the game and have your

1951
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Speaker 22: kick returner not I mean, our only chance to win

1952
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Speaker 22: that was for him to catch even if he catches

1953
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Speaker 22: it nine yards deep in the end zone, take it back,

1954
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Speaker 22: got a chance. That was our only chance. I'll shot

1955
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Speaker 22: up there and listen to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Steve has mentioned this before. At the

1957
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Speaker 3: end of the game a tactic of his, if he

1958
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Speaker 3: was a coach, would be to put eleven athletes on

1959
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Speaker 3: the field in a situation where you're probably going to

1960
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 3: have a lot of laterals on a play at the

1961
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Speaker 3: end of the game. You don't want big linemen on

1962
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 3: the field trying to catch laterals and avoid defenders. You

1963
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 3: want eleven athletes on the field, so you put them

1964
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Speaker 3: all out there. And look, they wanted to block the punt.

1965
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 3: They got messed up on substitution, and the return man

1966
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Speaker 3: was clearly not instructed to catch the ball under any circumstance,

1967
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Speaker 3: knowing the clock's probably going to run out by the

1968
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Speaker 3: time it gets downed with six seconds left. He was

1969
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 3: clearly not given those instructions because he was fine to

1970
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Speaker 3: let the ball sail over his head for a touchback

1971
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Speaker 3: thinking they were still going to be time left on

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Speaker 3: the clock. Those are two egregious errors on the same play.

1973
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Speaker 3: And look, does it fall to Sean McDermott. Ultimately, Yes,

1974
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 3: he's the head coach of the football team. But at

1975
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: the same time, a head coach has to be able

1976
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: to count on his coordinators to take care of those details.

1977
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Speaker 3: He can't handle everything on a game day. That's why

1978
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 3: he has coordinators.

1979
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Bills continued that when they have moments

1980
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 4: like this, they seem like they're once in a decade.

1981
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Speaker 4: Type losses is situations where you get this where you've

1982
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Speaker 4: got that guy back that you've got nine guys on

1983
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Speaker 4: the field. Uh, where you've got a guy that scored

1984
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: six touchdowns, and yeah, you've got to you've got to

1985
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 4: have a plan for those kind of things and that's

1986
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Speaker 4: up to your coordinator. Put that in and have that

1987
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 4: installed and be it ready. And I'm you're right for me.

1988
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Speaker 4: You put you put Ty Johnson, James Cook, and Ray

1989
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 4: Davis on the field. You put Christian Ben you put

1990
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Speaker 4: all the wide outs on the field. You put Tamari Cooper,

1991
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Speaker 4: you put Shakir you put Mac Collins, you put all

1992
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 4: the wide receivers on the field, you put all the

1993
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Speaker 4: corners on the field. All those guys, All those guys

1994
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 4: got to be on the field because they can handle

1995
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 4: the ball and they can run and you run through

1996
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 4: it and you have it so but it doesn't It

1997
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Speaker 4: never happens when your return guy doesn't catch the ball anyway,

1998
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Speaker 4: or you have nine guys on the field. And you're right, you, Yes,

1999
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Speaker 4: there is the list that you put out there. The

2000
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 4: special team's problems they've had over the last couple of years.

2001
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Speaker 4: At any given point. Yeah, not a banner day. It's

2002
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 4: troubling for special teams and defense in the Buffalo Bills country.

2003
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 4: It's just not.

2004
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Speaker 3: Quickly to address Kenny about the playoff seeds before we

2005
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Speaker 3: go to break here. Currently, according to ESPN Analytics, the

2006
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Speaker 3: Bills have a fifty five percent chance to get the

2007
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 3: two seed, only a fourteen point seven chance to get

2008
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Speaker 3: the one seed. So Kenny, in all likelihood, is probably

2009
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 3: going to be right. The one seed may have been

2010
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Speaker 3: lost in yesterday's defeat yesterday considering who Kansas City has

2011
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Speaker 3: left to play and who the Bills have to have

2012
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Speaker 3: left to play, including Detroit. This week break time, when

2013
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Speaker 3: we come back, We've got Maddi Clab joining us here

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Speaker 3: in studio on a Buffalo Football Monday on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 3: presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Radio, This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 3: All Right, our number three here on a Monday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker joined in studio by Bill's team reporter Matty

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Speaker 3: lab And, Uh, well, you guys were talking a while

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Speaker 3: about this one last night on the postgame show.

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Speaker 2: Does it feel any different? Today?

2023
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Speaker 23: Doesn't feel too much different.

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Speaker 24: You know, when you do a show, it's like we're

2025
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Speaker 24: on like five to ten minutes right after everything happens,

2026
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Speaker 24: and when a game goes to the final play, you're

2027
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 24: kind of racking your brain of Okay, how can I

2028
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 24: sum up everything that just happened and also include the

2029
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 24: first part of the game. So it's always a fun

2030
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Speaker 24: challenge to put a game into words that goes into

2031
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 24: the final few plays.

2032
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Speaker 23: And we got to do that last night.

2033
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Speaker 24: I mean, it was the most points scored in an

2034
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Speaker 24: NFL game all season. Josh Allen had an incredible game.

2035
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Speaker 24: Matt Stafford as well. The receivers on both ends had

2036
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Speaker 24: some great catches, great performances.

2037
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Speaker 23: But I go back to this.

2038
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 24: While the Rams scored forty four points on Buffalo's defense,

2039
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 24: it is uncharacteristic to see that from our defense. We

2040
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 24: rarely see it out of Buffalo's defense. In fact, the

2041
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 24: Bills have not allowed more than forty four points in

2042
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Speaker 24: a game since twenty seventeen. That was Sean McDermott's first

2043
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 24: year as Buffalo's head coach. We don't see this often,

2044
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Speaker 24: and this team does a great job fixing things after

2045
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 24: something's been exposed. Another great thing the defense just held

2046
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 24: the rushing offense to three point three yards per carry,

2047
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Speaker 24: So trying to find some of the positives in a

2048
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 24: tough loss like we saw last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did kind of shore up the run

2050
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Speaker 3: front in the second half. I think they only had

2051
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 3: thirty six yards in the second half the Rams running

2052
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Speaker 3: the football, and they even mastered kind of slowing down

2053
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Speaker 3: those end of rounds that they had Nakua going on

2054
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Speaker 3: in the first half. On Miller had a tackle for

2055
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Speaker 3: no gain on an end round and then aj Epanessa

2056
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Speaker 3: had another one where they only got a one yard game.

2057
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Speaker 3: So they did get that corrected in the second half.

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Speaker 3: We are going to take phone calls, so if you

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Speaker 3: want to jump in eight oh three zero five fifty

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Speaker 3: one eighty eight eight five fifty two five fifty, we'll

2061
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Speaker 3: just have Maddie here with us through that stretch and look, Mattie,

2062
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Speaker 3: a lot to correct, is right. Because Detroit subscribes to

2063
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 3: some of the same offensive principles that the Rams used

2064
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Speaker 3: under McVeigh. Ben Johnson has taken a lot of elements

2065
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 3: of that Rams offense and uses it in Detroit. It

2066
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 3: has morphed and been tweaked to some degree to fit

2067
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Speaker 3: Lions personnel.

2068
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Speaker 2: But Jared Goff likes to use a lot of those.

2069
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Speaker 3: Same concepts, So they better get that stuff fixed quickly,

2070
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Speaker 3: otherwise the Lions are going to test them on anything

2071
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Speaker 3: and everything that they struggled with yesterday.

2072
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Speaker 24: I mean, look, this Lions offense ranks top ten across

2073
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Speaker 24: the board. I've started to dig through some of the

2074
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Speaker 24: stats in preparation for this game that we're about to

2075
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Speaker 24: talk about all week. First, they ring first on offense.

2076
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Speaker 24: They've scored a total of one hundred and eighty three points.

2077
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 24: The Bills are right under the Lions. They're scoring total

2078
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Speaker 24: of one hundred and twenty nine points so far this season,

2079
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 24: but second in total yards, eighth in terms of their

2080
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Speaker 24: rushing offense, fourth in terms of their passing offense.

2081
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Speaker 23: I mean, this is an efficient offense.

2082
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Speaker 24: We've seen the way that the Detroit Lions have beaten

2083
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Speaker 24: teams by a huge margin of victory in several games

2084
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 24: throughout the season. You're right, this defense has to figure

2085
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 24: out what went wrong and correct it so that it

2086
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 24: doesn't happen in a second straight week. Another thing that

2087
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 24: our defense has to get back to doing, and I

2088
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 24: think is just a lifeblood of this of this entire

2089
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 24: team is getting back to forcing turnovers. We didn't see

2090
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 24: that in last night's game against the Rams. It was

2091
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 24: the first time all season that Buffalo's defense hasn't gotten

2092
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 24: a takeaway. I mean, they tie for the lead in

2093
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 24: the NFL with a plus seventeen turnover margin. In a

2094
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 24: game against the Lions where this could be a game

2095
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 24: where it comes down to the final couple drives, that

2096
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 24: could come down to who has the ball last. Turnovers

2097
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 24: are going to be a big part of this game

2098
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 24: if you're able to force them.

2099
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, get some extra possessions for your offense so they

2100
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 3: have more than the Lions have, because this could very

2101
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 3: well be another high.

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Speaker 2: Scoring affair this week in Detroit at Ford Field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're one and two in the league in scoring.

2104
01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 4: The Detroit two point one and the Bills are thirty

2105
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:06,560
Speaker 4: point five. Extra possessions are going to be a premium

2106
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 4: in this game. And if you got to like I

2107
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 4: said earlier, and even if your defense is not dominant

2108
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 4: or you know, just absolutely impossible to move the ball against,

2109
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Speaker 4: you still can be effective if you can make plays.

2110
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 4: And that's what the Bills have been able to do

2111
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 4: this year. They were making plays by getting turnovers. They

2112
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 4: were turning them out regularly and they dried up. This

2113
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: was a zero turnover game on both sides. It ended

2114
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Speaker 4: up being a two point game at the end. And

2115
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Speaker 4: you can bet that the Detroit game is going to

2116
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Speaker 4: be the same. I mean, it's going to be a

2117
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Speaker 4: tight game.

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Speaker 23: This defense owned up to it. In the locker room two.

2119
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Speaker 24: We heard from a few of our defensive players after

2120
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 24: the game, Terarren Johnson being one of those players alongside

2121
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Speaker 24: of Terrell Bernard. They spoke about, this is not how

2122
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 24: we practiced all week. We put something together in practice

2123
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 24: that we felt confident in. Then the game happens and

2124
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 24: we as a collective unit did not have our best game.

2125
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 24: It seemed like they were pretty surprised what happened there

2126
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 24: and knew this is not what we practiced for a

2127
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 24: few days leading up to a big game against the Rams.

2128
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Speaker 2: Bernard was pretty frustrated.

2129
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Speaker 3: He said, I don't think we did any of what

2130
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 3: we practiced all week, and that's what it's gonna look like.

2131
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna give up forty four points when you don't

2132
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 3: execute the game plan. Let's go to the phones, though,

2133
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 3: and see what you have to say. At eight oh

2134
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Speaker 3: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

2135
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Speaker 3: two five fifteen, and we go to Nick in north Tonawanda.

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Speaker 2: First, what's up Nick?

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Speaker 14: Hey, how you guys doing good?

2138
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Speaker 8: Love your show?

2139
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 2: Thanks?

2140
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 25: You guys are all stars in your own right. Maddie,

2141
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 25: you're working on your second year as an MVP.

2142
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Speaker 8: Me too, Thanks, I'm talking. I want to talk about.

2143
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Speaker 25: One particular play. I'm not sure if you guys talk

2144
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 25: about it or now. And I just stared listening. There

2145
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 25: was a lot of offensive line holding calls. Uh, there's

2146
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 25: one in particular. They showed a replay of Cooper Cup.

2147
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Speaker 25: He had his forearms clamped on whichever depender was. His

2148
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 25: hands were closed. I M sure he showed that, but

2149
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Speaker 25: he actually clamped the guy and turned him and they

2150
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Speaker 25: ended up scoring a touchdown on that.

2151
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're I think you're talking about Nikua's last touchdown

2152
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 3: in the game there, Yes, yeah, And look, I'll tell

2153
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 3: you right now, just having been in the building, the

2154
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 3: Bill sideline was jumping up and down because that was

2155
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:20,520
Speaker 3: on the Bills.

2156
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Side of the field.

2157
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Speaker 3: They were literally jumping up and down and grabbing their

2158
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Speaker 3: wrist with their other hands, saying that's a hole.

2159
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Speaker 2: That's a hole.

2160
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Speaker 3: You've got to flag that, and they did not. And

2161
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Speaker 3: it's unfortunate because it's crunch time in the football game,

2162
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 3: and that block, I mean, Tarren got out leveraged because

2163
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 3: the receivers switched at the line of scrimmage, so the

2164
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 3: coverage guys had.

2165
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 2: To switch too.

2166
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 25: Those screens they do, yeah, you know.

2167
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 3: And then you know, some people call it a rub play,

2168
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 3: some people call it a pick play.

2169
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,480
Speaker 2: But Cup engaged that block.

2170
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 3: I think before Nikua even had the football, which is

2171
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: technically not legal either, and they didn't flag that. Then

2172
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 3: on top of that, it's a borderline holding call. They

2173
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 3: keep the flags in their pocket and the rams are

2174
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 3: in the end zone. And look, it's tough to accept

2175
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 3: those non calls per se, But I mean to our

2176
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 3: point when Maddie came on here ten minutes ago, if

2177
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 3: you're playing better defense in this football game, the game

2178
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 3: doesn't come down to one play where you're hoping to

2179
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 3: get a call. Those non calls or the calls that

2180
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 3: are made get magnified when you're playing defense that's below

2181
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 3: what your standard has been all season long.

2182
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can go back and look at you

2183
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 4: said it off the false start that the right tackle

2184
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 4: the Rams had on the fourth down, and you know

2185
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 4: the fact that Dion Dawkins also was doing the exact

2186
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,679
Speaker 4: same thing on the left side for the Buffalo Bills.

2187
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 4: They didn't get called. As long as they call it consistently,

2188
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 4: you can kind of live with it. But you're right

2189
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 4: on a play of that magnitude, right then, Yeah, that's

2190
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 4: hard to live with. If you're a fan sitting at

2191
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 4: home going white. You know that cost us. That's there's

2192
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 4: y're you're gonna always get those. And I'll say this too.

2193
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 4: I've said this a ton. We've had this converse's been

2194
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 4: having this conversation for a couple of years now about

2195
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 4: the officiating and laid in the games. When you have

2196
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 4: close games, as the league does, a lot officials calls,

2197
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 4: whether it is a non call, a bad call, or

2198
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 4: a good call, they always get scrutinized because it makes

2199
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 4: a difference to the later in the game that it is.

2200
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 4: Because the other team has no chance to recover even

2201
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 4: if it's a good call, people squawk about it. So

2202
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 4: non calls and bad calls are going to get double

2203
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:44,759
Speaker 4: the attention and close games or what does that? Nobody

2204
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 4: cares if you're up by twenty five and that happens

2205
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 4: to the Bills, you know, it makes a difference in

2206
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,600
Speaker 4: these two point games. And the league has got a

2207
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 4: ton of those these days, a ton of those.

2208
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 2: Seventy the games are one score games.

2209
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 3: Just look at the Chiefs who win fifteen straight one

2210
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 3: score games. Let's go to Mark in Jersey City next.

2211
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 2: What's up? Mark?

2212
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 26: Good afternon gentlemen, Matty, nice to speak to you. I'm

2213
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 26: normally not this guy, you know. But Dorsey lost his

2214
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 26: job because there was twelve men on the field last year,

2215
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 26: and then Bill's lost the game. They the end of

2216
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 26: the game sequence is magnified because I think that the

2217
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,719
Speaker 26: McDermott naysayers and honks will come out of the woodwork

2218
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 26: when something like that happens. But this game was lost

2219
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 26: in the second quarter with twelve and change left. Josh

2220
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 26: missus Hollins, and McDermott noted after the brook in the

2221
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 26: post game he would have liked to see them run

2222
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 26: their ball with their running backs. He misses Hollins. That's

2223
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 26: three straight passes, and then the punt block ends up

2224
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 26: in the bills in zone. That's a fourteen point swing.

2225
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 26: Bill's lose by two. There's your ball game.

2226
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I am kind of with you. Go ahead.

2227
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 11: Oh I'm sorry, sir.

2228
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 26: And it's and then at the end of the game,

2229
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 26: there's nothing. There's no run back on. Codrington just lets

2230
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 26: the ball bounce. He doesn't feel the ball. There's no

2231
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 26: sort of tricks for you know what I mean, one

2232
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 26: of those scrums that they have at the end of

2233
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 26: the game where you're just desperate. There's nothing on. This

2234
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 26: guy is woefully ill prepared. Do you have nine men

2235
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 26: on for the punt block? You have nine men on?

2236
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 26: These are egregious errors. They they've lost two games because

2237
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 26: the special teams they were they were they were the

2238
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 26: first team to allow the the dynamic kickoff return for

2239
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 26: a touchdown. There there there's special teams brings them down. Again,

2240
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 26: I'm normally not this guy, but I hate to say

2241
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 26: it like that, but yeah, oh, when one quick aside,

2242
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 26: Brady is awful on the broadcast shilling for the rest

2243
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 26: the way he does. He was terrible. He was criticizing

2244
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 26: Josh for the one hit at of bounds early in

2245
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,799
Speaker 26: the game because he was like loitering on the sideline,

2246
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 26: and then he was defending him and Pereira were defending

2247
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 26: the rests for picking up the flag and when when

2248
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 26: when when Amari Cooper was getting like the inside of

2249
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 26: his jersey and pad held at the back Yeah, Pereira

2250
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 26: was saying, he clearly didn't obstruct him, while the TV

2251
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 26: is showing him being held.

2252
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 8: By the back plate.

2253
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 26: It's like, dude, be quiet, just get off of there.

2254
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 26: Thanks for taking my call, guys.

2255
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was also a call in that game where

2256
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 3: they called pass interference on both players. I've never seen

2257
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 3: that they called it on the offensive player and the

2258
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,759
Speaker 3: defensive player on the same play.

2259
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 2: What the hell's going on? Have you ever seen that

2260
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 2: in your life?

2261
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm not both guys involved in the play on offense

2262
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 3: and defense both called for pass interference.

2263
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 4: Help me with they say this, I'll say that I'm

2264
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 4: only sixty two. I've only seen the handful of offensive

2265
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 4: pass and inferences in my lifetime. Right, So yeah, to

2266
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 4: call it on both, that's a unicorn call. Like what

2267
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 4: it's a unicorn call?

2268
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 2: I don't call anything, right.

2269
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 23: I don't know we're calling on both guys?

2270
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 4: The hell it's yeah?

2271
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to say that he's not impeding Amari Cooper

2272
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 3: when you're holding his back plate. He can't get the

2273
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 3: ball because you're slowing him down by tugging on him.

2274
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 12: You're an anchor. Yeah, repeating him.

2275
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 4: I thought a couple of the call I thought they

2276
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 4: it was inconsistent on both sides. Yeah, that's that's pretty frustrating.

2277
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:11,759
Speaker 4: I thought the I think they called him on Christian

2278
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 4: Benford as well, or maybe maybe it was Lewis who

2279
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 4: got called. I thought they called him. He had the

2280
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 4: guys the hips hand on the hit, same thing. I

2281
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 4: didn't think he was obstructing. Yeah, I thought that. I

2282
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 4: thought the officiating was up and down in this game,

2283
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 4: but I didn't And there were some crucial moments, and

2284
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 4: in a game like this, like I said, with two

2285
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 4: points difference, those crucial moments are magnified. But I thought

2286
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 4: it was inconsistent both ways. But yeah, there were a

2287
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 4: couple of crucial plays where it went against the Bills

2288
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 4: that I was like.

2289
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 3: How taken were you, Maddie when you heard coach McDermott

2290
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 3: say we wanted to block the punt, but we didn't

2291
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 3: have enough guys on this.

2292
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:54,839
Speaker 23: It's a bummer.

2293
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 24: I mean there was an opportunity there that was lost.

2294
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 24: There's an opportunity at the end of the game for

2295
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 24: Kadre to field it. You never know what's going to

2296
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 24: happen there. And this is the points that you talk

2297
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 24: about leading into a game against the best team on

2298
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 24: offense in the Detroit Lions, who are twelve to one

2299
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 24: right now, you have to have every single facet of

2300
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 24: your game buttoned up and ready to go because this

2301
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 24: is a game where you need to play a complete game.

2302
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,719
Speaker 24: You talk about building to the end of the season,

2303
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 24: playing your best ball at the end of the season

2304
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 24: where you can lead into the playoffs feeling really good

2305
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 24: about the product that you're putting on the field. Special

2306
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 24: teams has got to figure out what's going on and

2307
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 24: how to fix it this week, because that's not You

2308
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 24: don't want to go into a game against the Lions

2309
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 24: where you have something that can fall apart like that.

2310
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 24: You have a play where where you don't have enough

2311
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 24: men on the field. This team and this coaching staff,

2312
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 24: really this coaching staff, they've been together too long to

2313
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 24: make mistakes like this that could really impact the course

2314
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 24: of the end of the game.

2315
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:55,759
Speaker 2: Because you got a game.

2316
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 3: Coming up where you have two immensely talented teams. You

2317
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 3: know both can score a ton of points and both

2318
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, have good squads top to bottom. So a

2319
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 3: game like that is one in the margins, and you've

2320
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 3: got to be air tight in the margins because it's

2321
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 3: probably going to determine the outcome of the football game.

2322
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 3: Back to the phones we go, and we're going to

2323
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:18,719
Speaker 3: hit up Scott out in Illinois.

2324
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 2: What do you got for a Scott?

2325
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for having my call. Sure, hey have

2326
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 10: a question in regards to the last couple of sequences

2327
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 10: with this quarterback sneak, And actually I agree with a call.

2328
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 10: I think you need to have the ball in your

2329
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 10: best playmakers' hands. He showed it during the game, and

2330
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 10: I sure would have hated to deny him. But I

2331
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 10: do have a question about how they did it. On

2332
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 10: the first sneak, they ran Davidson down into the box

2333
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 10: and just kind of sort of pushed him along. They

2334
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 10: come back on on the second seat, second sneak and

2335
01:54:55,800 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 10: they go full house with Hawns, Johnson and Gilliam And

2336
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 10: I'm just curious why they would have as crucial as

2337
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 10: that play was, why they didn't go full house in

2338
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 10: the first sneak. It looks like the Rams were condensed already.

2339
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 10: In fact, I think they maybe bought a safety down,

2340
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 10: but everybody else was in the same position, So I

2341
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 10: just don't understand unless they were trying to go no substitution,

2342
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 10: although again it was the same defense was on the field,

2343
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 10: I don't understand why they didn't go full house to

2344
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 10: begin with.

2345
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a valid point that you bring

2346
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 3: up Scott because biggest play of the game. And this

2347
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 3: is no knock on Zack Davidson, but Zach Davidson has

2348
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 3: called up for just his third game this season.

2349
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: Granted it's it's third in a row, but.

2350
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 3: That's a guy that has far fewer reps on that

2351
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 3: kind of a play then Ty Johnson, Reggie Gilliam and

2352
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 3: whoever else you want to put there, Mac Collins, who

2353
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 3: have all been lined up in that role before, and

2354
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 3: then they run it again and get those guys on

2355
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 3: the field and they get in.

2356
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 2: It is a valid question.

2357
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 3: Maybe coach McDermott will be asked it today when he

2358
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 3: does his post mortem press conference later this afternoon.

2359
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 2: It's a valid question, and in a.

2360
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 3: Stude one, why is a practice squad call up your

2361
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 3: primary push push guy for lack of a better term

2362
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 3: to help Josh get in the end zone, because if

2363
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 3: you watch the play, he gets impeded by Michael Hoyt,

2364
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 3: the defensive lineman, who leaps in there along with Braden

2365
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 3: Fisk and keeps him from getting a good push on Josh,

2366
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 3: who does not get in.

2367
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I'm with you. You can pick that play

2368
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 4: apart twenty different ways from Sunday and you could be

2369
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 4: right on all of them. They wrong formation, wrong personnel group,

2370
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 4: wrong time of the game, wrong play call in general,

2371
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 4: all of it. The simple fact of matters. They should

2372
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 4: have got in and they didn't, and it gave If

2373
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 4: that play goes in, it gives the Bills the best

2374
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: chance to win the games. We all know. Because it didn't,

2375
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 4: they had to waste a time out, and they got

2376
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 4: in on the next play. I take no question about it.

2377
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 4: It didn't work. But half the time it doesn't, and

2378
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 4: it's not because it was the wrong thing to You

2379
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 4: can say it was the wrong thing to do if you.

2380
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 3: Want, well, less than half the time it doesn't. They're

2381
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 3: very successful on that play.

2382
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 4: It's the most it's the most high percentage play they

2383
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 4: can run with their best player. I got no problem

2384
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 4: with the call that they got to get in. They

2385
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 4: got to get in, and the guy's got to know that.

2386
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 3: Well, that's I think that's his point though, Like where

2387
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 3: is the full house backfield? Where is Reggie Gilliam, Where

2388
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 3: is Mac Hollins? You know, where is Ty Johnson? Guys

2389
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 3: who have all been in there on those plays this season?

2390
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 3: Instead you have a practice squad tight end out there.

2391
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 2: It's it's a valid.

2392
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 4: Question, yeah, absolutely, And it might have it might have

2393
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 4: been personnel on the Rams defense, or it might have

2394
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 4: been some other reason why they want to put those

2395
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 4: guys out there for a different look. Certainly Cook is

2396
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 4: out to the left, so they drag one guy out

2397
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 4: of the box. But you got to get in. If

2398
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 4: you get in, then you've got a better chance of

2399
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 4: winning the game. And I've said it earlier in the show.

2400
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 4: They ain't gonna win that game, but they got a

2401
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 4: better chance at winning the game.

2402
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 24: And we're all, I mean fans and us as well,

2403
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 24: we're all asking these types of questions. You better believe

2404
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 24: this coaching staff is asking themselves all of these questions.

2405
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 24: Even more, this is a game where the plane touches

2406
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 24: down in Buffalo around three forty five in the morning.

2407
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 24: I'm sure Sean McDermott might have gone straight to the office.

2408
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 24: This is one of those games where it's a loss

2409
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 24: for Buffalo. You have a lot to figure out, you

2410
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 24: want to get through a lot, you have a big

2411
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 24: game coming up. I would not be surprised if coach

2412
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 24: went straight to the office to start going through some

2413
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 24: of that film, to start figuring out, Okay, what questions

2414
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 24: do we need to be asking ourselves? What could have

2415
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 24: we done right? What went wrong? How can we fix

2416
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 24: these things? And getting that communication to a point where

2417
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 24: it's they're not going to slip up in these moments again.

2418
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I can promise you. They were watching them

2419
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 3: on their iPads on the plane back.

2420
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were doing that on the floor.

2421
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 4: They had the full Yeah, they had the full game

2422
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 4: on and digested by the time they touched down.

2423
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 3: We got to take a break here, Maddie. Thanks for

2424
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 3: popping in on a Buffalo football Monday. Hopefully you're here

2425
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 3: under better circumstances next week with a fresh edition of

2426
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 3: the Maddie Awards, because that would be a big win

2427
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 3: over Detroit in week fifteen.

2428
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Speaker 2: We take a break here.

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01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 3: More of your phone calls when we come back on

2430
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 3: a Buffalo Football Monday here on One Bill's Live. Stay

2431
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: with us, all right, I gonna head right back to

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01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 3: the phones here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

2433
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,240
Speaker 3: Tasker here with you on a Buffalo Football Monday, looking

2434
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 3: for your takeaways from yesterday's game. Forty four to forty

2435
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 3: two at the hands of the Rams, the Bills fall

2436
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 3: in their seven game win streak comes to a close.

2437
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 2: Let's go to D in Buffalo next. What's up d.

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02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 14: Heyway, what's up? Fellas? Can you hear me?

2439
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2440
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, hey, Fellow's how you're doing?

2441
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 6: So?

2442
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 14: I got two questions here. The one question I want

2443
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 14: to ask is how many teams in the last ten

2444
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 14: years has won a Super Bowl? What the kind of defense?

2445
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 16: We run?

2446
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 14: A primary nickel all day long?

2447
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of teams run nickel a good amount

2448
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 3: of the time nowadays, because it's a passing league, and

2449
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 3: most teams run eleven personnel with three wides and one

2450
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 3: tight end.

2451
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 2: More than so and more than anything.

2452
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, the Rams run it all

2453
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 3: day and the best personnel to use against that is

2454
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 3: a nickel defense. So most teams play nickel as their

2455
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 3: base defense.

2456
02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 2: Anyway.

2457
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 3: So if you're talking about personnel grouping and it being nickel,

2458
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 3: I would argue that most teams play that. Right now,

2459
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 3: what do you think the Bills defense is D Maybe

2460
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 3: that's the question.

2461
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, I like our D, but when we don't,

2462
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,000
Speaker 14: when we getting gashed through the line of scrimmage all

2463
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 14: day long, I tend to want to put another body in.

2464
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 12: Now.

2465
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 14: I know, during the Super Bowl years with Steve, I

2466
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 14: think myerv might have ran what a three to four

2467
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 14: maybe even when we were going through our drought, we

2468
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 14: had Jim Schwartz. Guy, yep, he ran a four to three, right,

2469
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 14: and we had top tier defense, right new you might

2470
02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 14: not been winning.

2471
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 2: Right Yeah.

2472
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Speaker 3: I think the point we're trying to make D is

2473
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 3: offensive football is different now than it was even ten

2474
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 3: years ago under Jim Schwartz, and it was certainly different

2475
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 3: than what it was under Marv Levy. It's a passing

2476
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 3: league more than ever before. And because of that, team's base,

2477
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 3: defense is no longer four defensive linemen and three linebackers

2478
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 3: or three defensive linemen and four linebackers. It's two linebackers

2479
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 3: and five dbs in most cases for four to three defenses.

2480
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you're just better off calling

2481
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 3: it a four to two five because that's what most

2482
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 3: everyone is playing more than two thirds of the time.

2483
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 3: It's the new base defense in the NFL. I understand

2484
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 3: your concerns about them getting gashed up front, and look,

2485
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 3: yesterday was not a good day for Buffalo's defensive line.

2486
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,360
Speaker 3: It may have been their poorest game of the season

2487
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 3: in terms of collective performance. So they've got to fix that.

2488
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 3: And I mean, Josh said it after the game. We

2489
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 3: did not play with enough urgency and the Rams did.

2490
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 3: And he said this, We felt that out there on

2491
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 3: the field they did not match the Rams intensity playing

2492
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 3: and simple and on top of that, I think you

2493
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 3: have to look at a defense that has a lot

2494
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 3: of fixing to do. Going against the highest scoring team

2495
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:57,920
Speaker 3: in football this week, who subscribed to a lot of

2496
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 3: the same concepts that the Rams deploys. You know, you're

2497
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 3: gonna get tested on anything and everything that you came

2498
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:06,200
Speaker 3: up short against this week against the Rams, this coming

2499
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 3: week against the Lions.

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02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yes, but most Yeah, the Super Bowl

2501
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 4: teams ran a three to four defense. Schwortzy ran a

2502
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,840
Speaker 4: four to three, which is four down lineman three linebackers,

2503
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 4: a three fours, three down lineman, four linebackers. But everybody

2504
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 4: runs nickel these days, again, particularly against three wide which

2505
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 4: is what most teams run. They go single back, three

2506
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:33,080
Speaker 4: wides and a tight end. And that's that's just the

2507
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 4: way it is. You've got to do it, and you

2508
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 4: got to do it well. You can't just line up

2509
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 4: and expect to stop people. And I'll say this too.

2510
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 4: I was of the mind and I've been harping on

2511
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 4: this to Brownie. When you get into a game like

2512
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 4: a Baltimore Ravens game where they run compressed formations with

2513
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 4: big bodies and a big full back and all that,

2514
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 4: I am all about going five linemen, three linebackers and

2515
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 4: invite them.

2516
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 2: To throw the football, do something unconvened.

2517
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:03,600
Speaker 4: Do something uncon vegetable, exaggerate your defense in order to

2518
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 4: get them out of what they're doing and see if

2519
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 4: they can do it. The Bills never did that. They

2520
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 4: stayed in that nickel defense the entire game against Baltimore,

2521
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,120
Speaker 4: gave up thirty seven points as a result, and they

2522
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 4: lost big time. They could not stop the physicality of

2523
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 4: Baltimore because You're right, they just didn't have enough big

2524
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 4: bodies on the field, and it's all and it always

2525
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:27,120
Speaker 4: makes you it feel a little bit hopeless when you

2526
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:30,320
Speaker 4: have a game like yesterday where nothing you do defensively

2527
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 4: seems to work. None of your players seem to be

2528
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 4: good enough, Your players seem to be slower than their players,

2529
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 4: Your players can't play defense the way their players can

2530
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 4: play defense. It all looks hopeless in a game like yesterday,

2531
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 4: it's not.

2532
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:47,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you heard the players in the locker room.

2533
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 3: They said, we had a game plan, we practiced stuff

2534
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 3: all week for this, and then we didn't. We went

2535
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 3: out there and we didn't execute.

2536
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they puked on their shoes yesterday, and they can't

2537
02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 4: do that and expect to win. And they haven't done

2538
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 4: that all year. So yeah, you can expect that it's

2539
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 4: going to tighten up him against this Detroit team. And

2540
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:06,520
Speaker 4: there are some people out there that have the mind

2541
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 4: that you know, this is a it's better to walk

2542
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 4: into Detroit in this game with a loss, because now

2543
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 4: the Bills have got to Now the Bills are gonna

2544
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 4: be like, all right, they're gonna bear down a little

2545
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 4: bit and say let's go. Whereas if they come in

2546
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 4: there on a nine game winning streak or an eight game

2547
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 4: winning streak. It's like, okay, you know, let's you know,

2548
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:31,680
Speaker 4: we're all right, so we'll see. But yeah, there's still

2549
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 4: the same crew that is ten and three and lost

2550
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 4: two of those games by a total of five points.

2551
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:38,480
Speaker 4: They're a pretty good squad.

2552
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to Kyle into Pew next. What's up, Kyle.

2553
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 27: I'm good to take my call.

2554
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 14: You know.

2555
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 27: I think the offense yesterday, I think we put up

2556
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 27: enough points to win ninety five percent of the games

2557
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 27: we playing, maybe one hundred percent. But the defense, of course,

2558
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 27: is a big quest question. And what I'm questioning is

2559
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 27: our defensive line. I just don't think that we're good

2560
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 27: enough there. Like you know, the one caller earlier, he

2561
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 27: picked out Oliver. You don't have to pick him out.

2562
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:17,320
Speaker 27: I mean, there's a Panessa Rousseaul looks like he's all

2563
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 27: world one game, and then don't don't don't look like

2564
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 27: he's out there in the next game. I mean, I

2565
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 27: don't know what's going on, but until we get a

2566
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 27: kind of alignment like Bruce Smith type of guy we got,

2567
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,080
Speaker 27: we're gonna have trouble. I think to make it all away.

2568
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 27: That's just guys.

2569
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 3: Thanks Kyle, it's a valid concern just in light of

2570
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 3: the way they played yesterday, So I get it. Von

2571
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:45,400
Speaker 3: Miller was probably your most noticeable player on the defensive

2572
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 3: front day. Kwon Jones had some plays in the run front,

2573
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 3: but beyond an aj Apanessa had a tackle on an

2574
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,800
Speaker 3: end around, but beyond that, there wasn't much to write

2575
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:59,160
Speaker 3: home about about the defensive lines performance yesterday. Matthew Stafford

2576
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:03,920
Speaker 3: was unimpeded for basically the entire day, And you're right,

2577
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 3: forty two points is the most points the Bills have

2578
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 3: ever scored in a loss ever, So unfortunately, that speaks

2579
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 3: to the lack of effectiveness of Buffalo's defense.

2580
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Yesterday more than anything else. And special teams.

2581
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 4: And yes, everybody wants a TJ. Watt or Miles Garrett

2582
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 4: on their team. Those guys don't fall off treason. You're

2583
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 4: never going to find another Bruce Smith. He's one of one.

2584
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 4: So if you're looking for that guy, good luck. But

2585
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 4: you've got to get the most out of the guys

2586
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 4: that are on the roster today, this week, this season,

2587
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 4: and up to this up until yesterday, the Bills had

2588
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 4: done that. They had overcome whatever deficiencies they may have

2589
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 4: with turnovers and high motor. Well, yesterday they got no

2590
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 4: turnovers and their motor was on idle and it showed.

2591
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Nathan in in Tonawanda next. What's up Nathan?

2592
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 28: Hi, gotta, how you doing good?

2593
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 25: I have a question more for mister Tasker.

2594
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:11,560
Speaker 28: After the winning stretch the Bills were on and the

2595
02:08:11,640 --> 02:08:14,680
Speaker 28: amazing games at a home against the Niners and the Chiefs,

2596
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 28: what is the energy or the morale in the locker

2597
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 28: room after tough loss? Is it more of a pinch

2598
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:23,920
Speaker 28: in the arm and bringing them down back down to earth?

2599
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:26,880
Speaker 28: And I'll hang up and listen. Thanks guys.

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02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:27,200
Speaker 13: Yep.

2601
02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 4: Sure, after a loss, it's obviously a little quieter in

2602
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 4: the locker room, and guys don't really have the conversations

2603
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 4: they have after a win. The plane ride is the

2604
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 4: same way. You kind of hang on to it until

2605
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 4: the next day and you kind of digest it on

2606
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 4: your own. And then today they'll come in and they'll

2607
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 4: work out and they'll talk start to talk to each

2608
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 4: other about the game and what happened, what they saw.

2609
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:56,320
Speaker 4: They'll watch the film with their directions, they'll do corrections.

2610
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 4: They'll say, here's what we wanted to do. Here's why

2611
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 4: we called this, and here's what happened, you know, and

2612
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 4: they'll be held accountable for how they performed in their

2613
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 4: game plan. Tonight. They'll they'll digest it tonight, they'll start

2614
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 4: having conversations about the Lions. Maybe someone will watch some film.

2615
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 4: Tomorrow's a day off, and then tomorrow, on their day off,

2616
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,480
Speaker 4: they'll start thinking about the next one and start working

2617
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 4: towards the Detroit game. And this one gets flushed. They'll

2618
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 4: have all the information from it, they'll have learned everything

2619
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 4: they can from it, and they're going to have their

2620
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:38,440
Speaker 4: mindset on for the next game. But after a tough

2621
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:42,040
Speaker 4: loss like this, it's pretty quiet locker room. Pretty quiet

2622
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 4: locker room.

2623
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 2: Let's go to ED in Boston next.

2624
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 11: What's up, ed, Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. Sure, hey,

2625
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:53,800
Speaker 11: just forsake a clarity. I'm not a Patriots fan, not

2626
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 11: even a Belichick fan, but you do have to respect

2627
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 11: what they've done here and just observing the game yesterday,

2628
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 11: and obviously Bill's fan. The not enough players on the field,

2629
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 11: I don't have a problem with that because the number

2630
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:13,840
Speaker 11: of block punts altho happened one yesterday. They're just they

2631
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 11: don't happen that often. So that's gonna happen from time

2632
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 11: to time, all right, in terms of you know, giving

2633
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:22,760
Speaker 11: up a lot of points that that's gonna happen from

2634
02:10:22,760 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 11: time to time. But I think you guys know like

2635
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 11: you look for trends, right, and the trend there is

2636
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:33,120
Speaker 11: with McDermott's decision making. I think he's good coach.

2637
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 22: I like him.

2638
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 11: But there was one thing that could not happen at

2639
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:41,240
Speaker 11: the end of that game. They could not have the

2640
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 11: clock continue to run. They just could not have that happen.

2641
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 11: So the only way to prevent that would have been

2642
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 11: to throw the ball each time when they were first

2643
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 11: in goal, because in any scenario, if they get stopped,

2644
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:54,560
Speaker 11: they're gonna have to use timeout the games over. So

2645
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 11: there was the one thing that could not happen, and

2646
02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:59,120
Speaker 11: they didn't and they didn't address it. So what I

2647
02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:01,160
Speaker 11: said to the as I was waiting to call in

2648
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 11: was look, bell check had this guy Ernie Adams who

2649
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:08,600
Speaker 11: looked at the obscure possibility under the sun, even not

2650
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 11: even obscure, just things that can happen. And I think

2651
02:11:11,240 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 11: you got us surround. I think they got us around

2652
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 11: McDermott with a guy like that, or get McDermott smart

2653
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:19,720
Speaker 11: on this, smarter or you know, you run the risk

2654
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:21,400
Speaker 11: that this could happen. If this happens in a really

2655
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:23,920
Speaker 11: big game, guys, Buffalo's going to go wild.

2656
02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. You've got to have protocols in

2657
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 4: place where somebody's up there who's got the bigger picture right,

2658
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 4: And you've got to have a line of communication where

2659
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:38,760
Speaker 4: somebody's voice besides the head coach can say do not

2660
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 4: run it here. You got to throw it in case

2661
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:44,600
Speaker 4: it's incomplete or we miss the thing because the clock

2662
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:46,720
Speaker 4: will run. Somebody's got to be there for that. You're right,

2663
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 4: And I think it's one of the lost and most

2664
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:53,360
Speaker 4: difficult to prepare for scenarios is end of game clock

2665
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:56,440
Speaker 4: management because you got to, like think about all the

2666
02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 4: times we've had the thirteen seconds where the Chiefs had

2667
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,480
Speaker 4: three timeouts, or this one where you're on the wrong

2668
02:12:01,600 --> 02:12:04,880
Speaker 4: end of it and you've got all the timeouts. Every

2669
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,880
Speaker 4: game is different, Every game is different, so you've got

2670
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 4: to think of common elements and have somebody on it

2671
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:14,160
Speaker 4: to say, hey, don't run it here.

2672
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 3: You got to do and you need a paradigm shift

2673
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 3: in the thinking you can't have somebody on the staff

2674
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,080
Speaker 3: that's thinking like a coach, like, hey, this is our

2675
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 3: highest percentage play. We're gonna use it because it's gonna work.

2676
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 3: You need somebody thinking completely differently from that, saying, hey, look,

2677
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:30,800
Speaker 3: we're in a situation where we need all three timeouts

2678
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 3: when we get the ball, when we try to get

2679
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 3: the when they get the ball, when we kick the

2680
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:38,000
Speaker 3: ball away, otherwise the game's over. So is there a

2681
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:40,040
Speaker 3: risk of having to use the time out if we

2682
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:43,040
Speaker 3: run the ball. Yes, can't do that play. Pick something else.

2683
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:46,320
Speaker 3: And that's the difference in thinking from all the coach

2684
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:47,919
Speaker 3: thinking that's going on on the sideline.

2685
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,280
Speaker 4: And I'll say this too, I can get behind the

2686
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 4: fact that they got the ball back with and I

2687
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 4: don't know what I let me see. I might have

2688
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 4: it here. They've got the ball back with just that

2689
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:01,200
Speaker 4: little bit of time left, and they've got three time MutS.

2690
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:02,960
Speaker 4: They're thinking, there's no way they're gonna get down there

2691
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 4: with all three timeouts. We're gonna have to do what

2692
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 4: we can, right. Well, they do. They go the length

2693
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:10,080
Speaker 4: of the field without using a time out, and I

2694
02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:11,800
Speaker 4: think that's a little bit I caught him off guard

2695
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 4: and they weren't ready for it.

2696
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 2: Now break time for us. We'll close it up next

2697
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:15,400
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Lives.

2698
02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 17: Stay with us.

2699
02:13:32,640 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 2: First grafts the attask.

2700
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:36,280
Speaker 3: We're here on Buffalo Football Monday, and as we kind

2701
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 3: of pivot ahead and look towards the upcoming matchup in

2702
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:41,960
Speaker 3: week fifteen with the Lions on the road in Detroit,

2703
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 3: there is a report out. Dan Campbell gave his Monday

2704
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:50,480
Speaker 3: press conference and confirmed that defensive tackle Allen McNeil is

2705
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:53,960
Speaker 3: in concussion protocol from last week's game. They were kind

2706
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 3: of hoping coming off a mini by here playing last Thursday,

2707
02:13:58,360 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 3: that he would clear the protocol. That hasn't happened yet,

2708
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 3: so that'll be something to keep an eye on, along

2709
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:06,160
Speaker 3: with some other defensive linemen that have been injured, Levi

2710
02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:10,280
Speaker 3: On Woozoique, Josh Pascal, and DJ Reider. Reider is a

2711
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 3: huge cog on that interior run defense for them. If

2712
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:16,640
Speaker 3: he can't play, that would be a major loss for them. Yeah,

2713
02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:18,920
Speaker 3: they got thirteen guys on ir on defense.

2714
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:21,600
Speaker 4: It seems like I know Chiefs are winning the way

2715
02:14:21,640 --> 02:14:23,440
Speaker 4: they're winning, that looks like we thought we had a

2716
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 4: shot at them. But now with that happening. If the

2717
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 4: Chiefs keep winning and the one seed goes further and

2718
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 4: further away, it's like, just get me to the playoffs.

2719
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm got Oh, such a bad spot.

2720
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:36,880
Speaker 3: That's it for us today on a Monday. We'll see

2721
02:14:36,920 --> 02:14:40,360
Speaker 3: you tomorrow when we have ESPN. NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky

2722
02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:53,800
Speaker 3: will see it one