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Speaker 1: your Houston Texans. Mark Vandermer with you with John Harris.

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Speaker 1: It's Roundtable Tuesday. I just branded it. It's odd we

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Speaker 1: have DP City with us, we have Drewe Doherty with us.

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Speaker 1: The gang's all here and let's talk. Look, we were

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Speaker 1: gonna do a complete combined breakdown today and we'll do

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that. But there's some earth shattering

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Speaker 1: seize mcnews in the National Football League today, and gang,

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Speaker 1: let's dig in here. Because as big a story as

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is staying in Green Babe, the biggest story

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Speaker 1: of the day is movement, and that is of Russell

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Speaker 1: that certainly hits home because there might be a trade

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Speaker 1: here sometime sometime in the future, and you never know

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Speaker 1: what that's gonna bring. But this brought a lot for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: It brought two once two twos, It brought a five.

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Speaker 1: It brought Noah Fan, Drew Locke, Shelby Harris, and also

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Speaker 1: Denver got a four in the mix for some reason.

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Speaker 1: But Johnny gut reaction, We'll get everybody's to this move.

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Speaker 1: He got two ones. They got two ones. That was

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Speaker 1: what stood out to me. And the other part of

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Speaker 1: it was, well, there were a couple of things. Number one,

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Speaker 1: the two ones. Well you know what they traded for

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams two ones. Oh so if you're a Seattle fan,

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Speaker 1: you probably look at and go he didn't get a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more then we got that. We gave up

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Speaker 1: to get Jamal Adams to send off Russell Wilson. So

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Speaker 1: that was one thing. The second thing that stood out

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Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson's thirty three. He is seven years older

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Speaker 1: than our current quarterback. And I looked at and thought,

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Speaker 1: what I right now, take the number nine overall, the

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Speaker 1: number forty one overall this year, in addition to first

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Speaker 1: and seconds next year, and the three players, and of

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Speaker 1: course there's a fifth in there, and the three players

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Speaker 1: that the Broncos got Man it would be hard to

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Speaker 1: turn it away. I feel like they got a pretty

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Speaker 1: good haul. I told Sudds. I was sitting in studio

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Speaker 1: studio with Sudds, and I just said, I don't want

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Speaker 1: the players at all. Honestly, I don't know if any

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Speaker 1: trade materializes. I don't want any play. I just want picks.

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Speaker 1: And I know that gets tricky. But Drew Locke's not

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Speaker 1: gonna do anything for Seattle now, Shelby Harrison, Noah Fan might,

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Speaker 1: but it's not really about the players. It's about the picks.

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Speaker 1: I want to grow and develop players, whether I get

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Speaker 1: them in the fourth round a fifth round. So if

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Speaker 1: you got to give me three first two seconds, a

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Speaker 1: fourth to fifth whatever to make it right, I'll take

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Speaker 1: that fourth and a fifth because last year Nick Casserio

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Speaker 1: took fourth and fifth and a fourth next year whatever

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Speaker 1: young I'd rather much rather have the picks, even though

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Speaker 1: We need the picks here in Houston. So that was

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Speaker 1: the first thing that stood out to me was Jamal Adams.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks dave up to two or two first. Now they're

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Speaker 1: gonna up two first. Now they're also giving up a

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Speaker 1: high second and then the second next year. We'll see

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Speaker 1: where that ends up, but they're gonna end up having

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Speaker 1: If they're gonna rebuild, and I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: full rebuild is completely done. Apparently the shopping Tyler Lockett,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna roll with Drew Locke, and they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: all these picks going into a year in which the

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Speaker 1: college quarterbacks are gonna be fantastic. With c J. Stroud

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a quarterback draft. So if this year

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Speaker 1: with it. So interesting times in Seattle, all right. The

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Speaker 1: like I said, they got they got the number forty

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Speaker 1: even if happens for us, the key is getting that

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Speaker 1: and again the number ten pick, which would have been theirs,

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Speaker 1: they gave up for a safety Jamal Adams, so they

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Speaker 1: nine overall picks. They moved up a spot, if you

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Speaker 1: key because next year, Denver's probably gonna be picking in

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Speaker 1: Seattle's gonna end up getting. I'm confused as to who's

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Speaker 1: rebuilding and who's not rebuilding, because I honestly thought that

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Speaker 1: But that's the whole reason why Jamal Adams went to

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Speaker 1: well maybe they got competing that AFC West, and it

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Speaker 1: offensively because Garrett Bowls at left tackle is bordering on

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Speaker 1: was ready to break out. Now they got Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 1: which is gonna be pretty salty with Derek Carr. Somebody

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Speaker 1: tweted today those pretty funny that the Derek Carr is

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Speaker 1: potentially the all time greatest quarterback, who is the worst

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Speaker 1: quarterback in his division? Like it's right now, that's crazy

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Speaker 1: to say, because Derek carry Gardu is the top ten

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Speaker 1: Denver that they don't need a quarterback anymore, but now

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Speaker 1: Seattle needs a quarterback. Does it mean that they're still

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Speaker 1: twenty four. That was the next thing I looked at once.

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Speaker 1: I thought displacement in this because I don't really care

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Speaker 1: I'm localizing it thinking about what's going on here, and

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Speaker 1: that they don't need a quarterback. Neither does Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: They're sticking with Aaron Rodgers, which was the other huge,

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Speaker 1: huge news of the day. So it just means somebody

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Speaker 1: else needs a quarterback. And I think it's a Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Drew Locke is the future there. And

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Speaker 1: I just, you know, I wonder what this means next

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Speaker 1: for draft pick compensation. Were at the office, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, they have all they have all those picks now,

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Speaker 1: so they have a quite a bounty, they do. And

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's seventy ish, right, So you wonder how much

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Speaker 1: longer and how attractive Because when you talk localize it,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had a no trade clause, so he had

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Speaker 1: to approve of the deal to denver localizing it. There's

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Speaker 1: like Drew Doherty stood up and said, Recco taking boiler room.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has been traded. He stood up and did that,

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Speaker 1: And that was not too long after the Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: news broke, and the Aaron Rodgers news breaking was actually

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Speaker 1: good news because it meant the market was still wide

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Speaker 1: it's open enough. But Denver was one less spot on

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Speaker 1: the board. If you will, here's another thing. The Texans

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Speaker 1: are gonna play the AFC West. The Texans are going

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Speaker 1: to Denver. You're gonna see Russell Wilson this year in

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Speaker 1: the flesh. You're gonna see Derek Carr in Vegas in

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Speaker 1: the flesh, not playing the NFC West. But the NFC

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Speaker 1: West was the best division in football? Is it now?

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Speaker 1: Definitely the AFC West because you took a quarterback out

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Speaker 1: of there. It was on the fourth place team. Now

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Speaker 1: he's in the AFC West on a team that finished fourth,

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Speaker 1: but maybe they don't finish fourth this year. Is that

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Speaker 1: the best division in football? Johnny? I don't think the

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Speaker 1: same question is if it's not the FCU West, NFCU West.

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Speaker 1: But you just took arguably one of the better quarterback

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Speaker 1: West is ridiculous. Uh. And oh, by the way, the

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Speaker 1: as Kyler Murray put all his pictures back on Instagram

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Speaker 1: that showed him in Cardinal's uniforms. So yeah, everything's good

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. But Seattle, No, Seattle is not an option.

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Speaker 1: And that because they're they're shopping guys, they're shopping Tyler Lockett.

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Speaker 1: They're probably not gonna bring back Dwayne Brown. This feels

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Speaker 1: like a full on rebuild. I think the next domino

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Speaker 1: to fall in Seattle would be would be whether Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll wants to go through that rebuild. Now. If Pete

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Speaker 1: gotta do it now, Okay, well, then then they're gonna

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it'll happen because Nick Zario and

428
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Speaker 1: both both he and Lovey Smith have talked about needing

429
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Speaker 1: a younger back. So this is where it starts. In

430
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Speaker 1: This running back group is really really good. Okay, we

431
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Speaker 1: have no idea what the Texans are gonna do in

432
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Speaker 1: free agency, but we're gonna find out soon enough. So

433
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Speaker 1: quick thoughts on what might happen, not necessarily who they

434
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Speaker 1: might get, but what you're expecting, the lay of the

435
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Speaker 1: land as we get into next week and the signing

436
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Speaker 1: are fast and furious, Drew, I don't think there'll be

437
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Speaker 1: fast and furious here. I think they kind of stick

438
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Speaker 1: with what we've sort of become accustomed to, you know,

439
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: basically in franchise history around here. You know, with an

440
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Speaker 1: exception in eighteen, you sign the Honey Badger about a

441
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: week after the big push. But I think the Texans

442
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: are a little bit more patient. They're not going to

443
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Speaker 1: make any splashes. We almost have heard as much, you know,

444
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: going through things the last month or so, But yeah,

445
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Speaker 1: I would. I would think that the signings start happening

446
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: about a week week and a half in if they do. Okay,

447
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 1: deep be your thoughts on free agency. I would expect

448
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Speaker 1: the Texans to resign some of their own, especially on

449
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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I think with Levy

450
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: Smith taking over as head coach, I think he knows

451
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Speaker 1: what he has in this defense. I played pretty well

452
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Speaker 1: last year, So all those free agent deals, one year deals,

453
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: I expect that we might retain some of those, and

454
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Speaker 1: maybe even justin Reid. I mean, it seems like there's

455
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: a lot of safeties out there on the market, you know.

456
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that I think everyone's just sort of assuming

457
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Speaker 1: he's going to move on to greener past years and

458
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: make more money somewhere else, or maybe not. Maybe he decides,

459
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna make that much more money

460
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: anywhere else and he wants to stay here with Lovey Smith,

461
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see some returners here this year.

462
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be so many new faces. This is

463
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Speaker 1: totally my prediction. I feel like some of these guys

464
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: are going to want to come back and play for Lovey,

465
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Speaker 1: and Lovey's gonna want to have some of his defensive

466
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Speaker 1: players back as well. Johnny, it's gonna be dollar dollar bills,

467
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: y'all going all the place, just not two players coming here.

468
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Speaker 1: I agree with both, y'all. I don't think it's gonna be.

469
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Speaker 1: It's not one of those years in which we're gonna

470
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Speaker 1: go sign Johns and Joseph and Daniel Manning. It's just

471
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Speaker 1: not gonna happen, and it's not gonna happen. So I

472
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Speaker 1: think there. I don't think it's gonna be a complete philosophy.

473
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Speaker 1: I've said this before and I'll say it again. I

474
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Speaker 1: feel like, going into the draft last year, it was

475
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Speaker 1: gonna be that, hey, let's get youthful, le's get a

476
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Speaker 1: bunch of draft picks, and we're gonna load up after

477
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Speaker 1: making the trade. Well, when things got in the way

478
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Speaker 1: of that trade happening, they had to pivot to Plan B.

479
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Speaker 1: And I think this year, if they're able to make

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Speaker 1: that trade and pile up the picks, I think this

481
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: team gets younger, and so I don't see a lot

482
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Speaker 1: happening from outside perspective, coming in. I agree with Deep you.

483
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: I do think they'll sign a few of their own,

484
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: but they'll get this team young and start building and

485
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: developing through the draft as we hope they would have.

486
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Speaker 1: Last year, they weren't able to do it, but I

487
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Speaker 1: think they will be able to do it this year.

488
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Speaker 1: I predict that even though you had a lot of

489
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Speaker 1: players come in last year, a lot of them, obviously,

490
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Speaker 1: we're not Marquis busters. I think you're gonna have a

491
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: few more eyebrow raises like guys would come in and

492
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: they'll make you react a little bit more like that.

493
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Speaker 1: They won't be mind blowing, dollar busting, bank breaking acquisitions.

494
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Speaker 1: They'll be interesting, though, and they'll continue to build. I

495
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Speaker 1: think they're in a good situation. Johnny talked about the

496
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Speaker 1: quarterback draft. Next year. You have Davis Mills. This year,

497
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Speaker 1: you'll run it back with Davis from day one. He's

498
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Speaker 1: the starter, all offseason. He's the man. Now. I'm not

499
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Speaker 1: saying you don't bring any other option, because I've always

500
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Speaker 1: you need another option, but he's your QB one right now,

501
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: and you go with it like that and see where

502
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two takes you. It's gonna be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks so much, Johnny. You and I

504
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: are going to do more likely to happen next right here,

505
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: and it involves a new quarterback in a new place,

506
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: some old quarterbacks, some young quarterbacks, a lot of quarterbacks. Next,

507
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm more likely to happen here. On Texans Radio, Mark

508
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: Vandermarin John Harris with you. We got done with our

509
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: round table Tuesday, and we're talking all sorts of things

510
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Speaker 1: related to the big news of the day in the

511
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Speaker 1: National Football League and of the week and weeks and

512
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Speaker 1: years and all of it. Here we go, Johnny, We're

513
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Speaker 1: gonna do more likely to happen. We're applying it to

514
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Speaker 1: today's news though, of course, are you ready? Of course

515
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: you are more likely to happen, more likely to happen.

516
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Speaker 1: Denver finishes higher in the division than the Raiders, or

517
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Speaker 1: the Raiders finish higher in the division, more likely to happen.

518
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: Who's going to finish better in the division. That's basically

519
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to phrase here badly, so Drek to

520
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Now, in case anybody's been in a tree

521
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: all day or something, and a lot of changes in Denver.

522
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Speaker 1: You got Infaniel Hacket his head coach. You've got Russell

523
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Speaker 1: Wilson taken over at quarterback. I think this Denver offense

524
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: is about to go to a different level. I mean

525
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: they've had the pieces in place, they just couldn't find

526
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Speaker 1: the right trigger man to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's about to go to a different level

528
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Speaker 1: off I mean offensively in Denver. I feel it's gonna

529
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Speaker 1: go to a different level offensively in Las Vegas too,

530
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Speaker 1: because I think Josh McDaniels with Derek Carr is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a really solid combination. And there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of pieces out in Las Vegas. I just from this

533
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Speaker 1: question standpoint, I wish Las Vegas would have kept those

534
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen. Getting all rid of all those offensive linemen

535
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: made Derek Carr run for his life last year. Yeah,

536
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: if if Las Vegas stays healthy, in Las Vegas is

537
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty salty too. But the impact of Russell

538
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Wilson in Denver with all those offensive pieces, with Hackett

539
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: as the play call and head coach, and with a

540
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: defense that's got some superstars on it and potentially getting

541
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Speaker 1: Von Miller back, I don't know who knows. I put

542
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: the Broncos a tad ahead of the Raiders. That's gonna be.

543
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a Those are gonna be musty games.

544
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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Broncos go to the

545
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks this year. Oh, I didn't realize that that's a good,

546
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: old fashioned, old school AFC West matchup. Dave Craig, Yes,

547
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: let's go that is. That's gotta be Sunday night, right,

548
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Sunday night out in Seattle. Oh yeah, it's gotta be.

549
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: It's got Sunday Night written all over it. That's gonna

550
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: be awesome. Although you better do it early because Seattle

551
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: might be terrible if they're in that rebuilds. Good do

552
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: it early for the Russell Wilson come back. You know,

553
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the Raiders can get really

554
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: good McDaniels. He's got coaching experience. He's been there once before.

555
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: I liked the second chance guys, and Hackett's never done

556
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: it before. We'll see, you know, Vic Fangio. They gave

557
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: him a lot of grief, but the defense was going

558
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: pretty good at times, and vis a good defensive coach.

559
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: He's no longer there. I know. The offense and wasn't

560
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: working out. According to plan, and that should be a

561
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: whole lot better, of course right now, but we'll see,

562
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: all right, more likely to happen, more likely to happen,

563
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: more likely to have a better career Malik Willis or

564
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: any other quarterback in the class. Name the other quarterback

565
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: more likely to have a better career than Malik Willis

566
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Speaker 1: Cole Kelly. No, for those that don't know Coo Kelly,

567
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: he's a six foot seven, two hundred and sixty pound quarterback.

568
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: In fact, I think you mentioned it two fifty from

569
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: Southeastern Louisiana who is part wildcat quarterback, part Josh Allen,

570
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the Bills, not the Jags. He's a monster.

571
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Speaker 1: I would mind us taking a flyer on Cole Kelly

572
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: on day three, just because he could give a little

573
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: bit different look and he can sling it. I mean

574
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Speaker 1: he can throw it. It's right. He's Ryan Mallett. When

575
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: he was at Arkansas before he transferred, he looked like

576
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: Mallet because he could throw it. I think I don't

577
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Speaker 1: think yeah, I would say, well, it's a hard one.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take the field on this one

579
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Speaker 1: because I feel like I've got a couple options. Number

580
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Speaker 1: one I've got Kenny Pickett ahead, just slightly ahead him

581
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: Malik wills I think any Picket's gonna have a finefl career.

582
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: I think if Pickett gets in the right situation, now

583
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: he's gotta be right situation guy. Right it's the right situation,

584
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: it could be really good. I think Malik Willis doesn't

585
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: quite have to be right situation guy, because Malik can

586
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: take a bad coaching situation safe plays by his legs,

587
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: getting outside the pocket and making plays. If he's in

588
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: a good situation where they're maximize his legs and his assets,

589
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: well he could be a real big time threat. But

590
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I think the guy's kind of getting lost on all

591
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: this is Matt Krow And because he wasn't able to

592
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl because of an injury, he

593
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: wasn't able to work out at the Combine because that

594
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: same ankle injury suffered in Sugar Bowl, and because of

595
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the ankle injury itself, the fact that his decision making

596
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: a sort of question, I think Matt Crow has kind

597
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: of falling off the waistide a little bit. Matc grow

598
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Healthy is a dude. He is an absolute gun slinger.

599
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: So I would put some money on. Matt Crow makes

600
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: some noise too. So I'm gonna go with the field

601
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: because that gives me pickt It gives me a corral

602
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: and then a wild card. Maybe I'm not thinking about

603
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: maybe a guy, Oh boy, how about Brown University of

604
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: lum E. J. Perry. That would Johnny would be very happy.

605
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: And he's up there at Sam Houston State right now?

606
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Is their offensive coordinator? Go Bearcats? All right? More likely

607
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: to happen, more likely to happen. And we'll get back

608
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: to the current state of affairs at just a moment.

609
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: Let's do him most likely, most likely to be the

610
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: best running back the Texans could get round three or later.

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00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be there, Johnny, Who's gonna be there in

612
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: round three? It's high up in round three? Nick wants

613
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: a running back. Who should he take? Talked about this

614
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: earlier about the backs. I think they sort of man.

615
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: I like Brian Robinson from out Alabama. I love the

616
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: fact that he stuck it out in an era in

617
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: which is a transfer portal, and I'm not getting my touches.

618
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. He's a Tuscaloosa He's Tuscaloosa kid.

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Speaker 1: He stick He stuck around. He went through I don't

620
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: know four or five different stud running backs and he

621
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: stated out and he ended up being a bona fide

622
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: star this year when he was healthy. He's an incredible

623
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Speaker 1: pass protector. He's two hundred twenty five pounds at nearly

624
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: six two. I think he is a hammer, an absolute hammer.

625
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: And the CFPE playoff game against Cincinnati, Bill O'Brien just

626
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: kept giving them ball the whole first drive, just like

627
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: hand at the four. Keep giving it the four, keep

628
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: giving it the Robinson and he just pounded. So Robinson

629
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: to me is kind of back into two beginning of three.

630
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I love Rashod White from at Arizona State. He's the

631
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: guy who told me the Aaron Foster's guy looked at

632
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: you know. James Cook Georgia can be kind of hit

633
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: or miss. I have him at one on one and

634
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: the Harrison one hundred just out of it. So he's

635
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: kind of back into three. I think a guy to watch,

636
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: and I think there are some connections, and that's Kyran

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Speaker 1: Williams from out of Notre Dame. I think Kyraan Williams,

638
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Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't crush it. There's no elite I mean,

639
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: the guy's five nine at a quarter one ninety four.

640
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: He's not big, he's not, you know, the fastest. He

641
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: ran four six five in the forty, which was one

642
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: of the slower times of that group. But but he's

643
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: got great feet, he's smart, he's got vision, and he

644
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: is the no doubt, unquestioned number one pass protector in

645
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: this draft. His hass protection went viral on Twitter after

646
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: the Clempson win at twenty twenty. He hit linebackers three

647
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: or four times and people were going crazy. He's an

648
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: humble in it's and it's consistent. It's game after game

649
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: with him. So um. You know, he's from the Saint

650
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Louis area, so you know, maybe maybe Lovey Smith, you know,

651
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: with the Illinois connection. I don't he didn't go to

652
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Illinois and maybe recruited him, maybe saw him. I don't know,

653
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: but Kyra Williams feels like a guy that to look at.

654
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: And I'll give you one other, but I think he's

655
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna go earlier in the third round. Mark Ah should

656
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: do it the next one. Damian Pierce. Can I tell

657
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: my Damian Pierce story real quick? Watching Damian Pierce running

658
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: back from Florida do the bench, and not many backs

659
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: did the bench one, two, three, four or five, six,

660
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: six running backs did the bench. With the combine, he

661
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: rolled up with uggs slides, bedroom slippers on and put

662
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: up and put up twenty one reps at two twenty five.

663
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I mean it was awesome. It's like

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Speaker 1: I want that guy not to mention he is a rock.

665
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, two hundred and eighteen pounds just running downhill.

666
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: He is a hammer. I would love any of those

667
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: guys in the third round for sure. If you can

668
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: back it up, go for it. If you could roll

669
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: up in your bedroom slipper slides and you can do it,

670
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. And I think guys like that

671
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: add to the culture. Okay, I just think the characters, right. Yes,

672
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: Ben Jones and his bare feet gonna work out here

673
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: money wise or whatever. But I like that kind of

674
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: odd behavior every once in a while from a solid player,

675
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: all right. More likely to happen, Johnny, More likely to

676
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: happen Aaron Rodgers, who's staying in Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers

677
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: remembered as an all time top three quarterback, or Aaron

678
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers remembered outside of the top five is he outside

679
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: of the top five or is he a top three

680
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: guy in memory? When he's all said and done, you

681
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: are not allowed to give him the fourth or fifth spot.

682
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: He has to end it like John Elway. You know,

683
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: John Elway won all those years without winning a championship.

684
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: I think now when you talk to people, oh, you

685
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: know Elway had two rings. For a long time, John

686
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: Elway was the greatest quarterback. He damn ring, the greatest

687
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: quarterback that could never win one, and then they won

688
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: him at Kelly and Kelly two. He had four losses

689
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Now Marino and Kelly stayed without rings.

690
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Elway got his. I think that elevated hashtag quarterback wins.

691
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: That elevated Elway in the minds of people being great.

692
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers throws the football unlike anybody I've ever seen

693
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: from a pure physical throwing standpoint. Aaron Rodgers is top

694
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: three for me and will be top three, but he's

695
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: got to cement it with a couple of championships. If

696
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: he gets a ring or two down the way, I

697
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: think he will be remembered as such. But you win

698
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: one with all that talent, I don't think people will

699
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: look at and say, well, the only one one time

700
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: now twenty fourteen was his fault. They recover aunt say

701
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: kick they go to the super Bowl instead of Seattle.

702
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: But you could argue twenty twenty against Tampa Bay. You know,

703
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: he didn't have his greatest game twenty twenty one against

704
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers the visual playoff round. He did

705
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: not have his great great game at all. So in

706
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: big situations, been shaky lately. So he's got to cement

707
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: it with a championship or some win in a playoff

708
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: game in which it's like the Bill's Chiefs and he

709
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: just goes off and he has one of those games

710
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: to kind of close it that. That's really only way

711
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember him as the top three from physical

712
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: standpoint guy. But if he wants to be top three,

713
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: it's Brady who's two and three. Well, he can be

714
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: two or three, but he's got to be able. I

715
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: think Montana is in there as well, So if he's third,

716
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: he's got to get I mean, Montana's got four, four, yeah, four?

717
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: And is it four? Yeah? Four? And yeah, it's right four.

718
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Tom's got seven. Rogers has one the same as Trent Dilfer.

719
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: Well and no one's saying he's Trent Dilfer. But I

720
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: get your point. And when you talk about top three

721
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: physical talent quarterbacks, just physical traits and they want a

722
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: lot is Marino in there. Maybe that's another discussion for

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Speaker 1: another day. All right, coming up a little bit more

724
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: on the news of the day. Plus I've got an

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00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: idea for the combine, Johnny, You're gonna love this, and

726
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: it relates to Houston. I want to bring it here

727
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you exactly how I'm gonna do it,

728
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna listen to me, but we'll see if

729
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: they do after this conversation on Texans Radio. As promised

730
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Mark Vandamer and John Harris with you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio as promised my idea for the combine, and

732
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: we'll get back to some of the news of the

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Speaker 1: day just a moment here, move it to Houston, all right.

734
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're not in the mix. Although

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00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: I have a huge wrinkle in this, John, you tell

736
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: me if I'm crazy or not. I think it can

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00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: be done. First of all, you have the George R.

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00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: Brown Convention Center, You've got the hotels. You know what

739
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: the setup was for the super Bowl. But you're missing

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00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: something very big and that is a place to do

741
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: the freaking drills. But I am going to utilize where

742
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: they did the Super Bowl media day. So it's not

743
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: unprecedented to use a facility that belongs to another sport,

744
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: Minute Made Park, to do the combine drills. Right, we

745
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: make a deal here, the league does, with the astros,

746
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: with the powers that be over there, you work out

747
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: a way to use Minie Made Park. Look, we were

748
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: all there on the field together that night, all right.

749
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: They've used it for other events. When Inspiity had its

750
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: name changed from Administaff to Inspirity, it was on the

751
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: field of Mini Made Park. I was there. They do

752
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: other stuff there. They do concerts there. You could do

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00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: the combined drills at Mini Made Park and have everything

754
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: connected downtown and have your same effect that you do

755
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: an indie. We just stay at one of the hotels

756
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: and walk everywhere and it would be awesome and it

757
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: would save us money and travel as well. Wow. Now

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00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: that's a plan. That is a plan, And if you

759
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: end up having good weather, you can just open the roof,

760
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: which I don't know if they ever could do an indie,

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00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: you could open the roof if you've got a nice day,

762
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: which would make for really nice scenics and that kind

763
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: of thing. So that would be quite interesting. That's if

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00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: you throw in the medical medical center, which is nearby,

765
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: close enough, and you got Saint what is it, Saint

766
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Joseph right downtown anyway, But I know our friends at

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00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Houston Methodists are close enough. They're never far away. And

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: of course you could accommodate everybody downtown in the hotel

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00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: space you have in the city of Houston. Would love it.

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: Come on, people up, I'll give you more likely to happen?

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00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Or who's better? This is a better Who's better? Who's better?

772
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: The Dallas Star or that? I look at the Dallas Star.

773
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: All they have above that is an actual football mini

774
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: stadium where they do those high school games of the

775
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys practice indoors. Other than that, I don't see any

776
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: advantage to be in there. They have some retail and

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00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: some restaurants. So what we got all that downtown? I

778
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: am down with this idea. I like the idea. I

779
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: like it. Now we you and I would have to

780
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: play combine hosts the weekend. We could do it. We

781
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: can think we could host everybody and it's a it's

782
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: a burden. Somebody's got to do it. You know. Our

783
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: buddy Matt Taylor has been having to do it for

784
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: all these years. I think we could, we could take

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00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: it off his hands and played combine host. He's playing

786
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: his lunch. He brings his lunch every day. He's the

787
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: voice of the cults. He brings his lunch every day

788
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: to the combine like it's a bag lunch and his

789
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: like wife packed it for him or something, and he's

790
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: snacks that he got from his kitchen that morning. It's

791
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: so funny, all right. Obviously, big news of the day

792
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson going to Denver and the deal is huge.

793
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: More reaction here as you have two ones, two two's

794
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: of five. You have the quarterback Drew Locke. We've seen

795
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: here up close and personal and it wasn't pleasant in

796
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, but that was his best game by far, right,

797
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Johnny when he came here and Denver did what they did.

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00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Uh Noah Fant and Shelby Harris another player and a

799
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: fourth goes from Seattle to Denver in addition to Russell Wilson.

800
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: So basically Seattle gets those three three players I mentioned

801
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: two ones, two twos and a fifth. Unbelievable deal. How

802
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: good is Noah Fant? By the way you were saying earlier,

803
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: you want the picks, not the players. But he's pretty decent, right,

804
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if you got a play like that, he's

805
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Not that he's worth that right now,

806
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: but he's worth something. Yeah, he's worth something as long

807
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: as you have the right quarterback to throw. You just

808
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: told me know a fan was staying in Denver with

809
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I thought, pooh, a fantasy football pay attention

810
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: to that guy. But I think Denver with Albert Oh.

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00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even try and say his last name, but

812
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: Albert Oh, who formerly of Missouri, I think has blossomed

813
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: into a pretty good tight end prospect for the Broncos.

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00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: That they felt like Fant could be expendable in some

815
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: sense little fans a tremendous athlete. I mean you kidding me?

816
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: You put you put no A fan with DK mccalf

817
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: and Tyler Lockett stays, Oh, boy, that could get nice

818
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: in a hurry. But who's throwing them to football? If

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00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: it's Drew Lockton. The next interesting piece to me is

820
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Pete Carroll because Pete seventy and

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00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Pete wants to start over. Now. They

822
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: could do it. They could make it really easy in

823
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: not starting over by making one deal for a quarterback,

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00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: be it Sean or somebody else, and they could reset

825
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: that thing real quickly. But just the fact that Tyler

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00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: Lockett's on the market now apparently too. Man, I just

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00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: don't see them. I don't see them in that market.

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00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I see them. We're gonna rebuild this thing. We got

829
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: all picks to do it. We're gonna do it this

830
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: way and get ready for that twenty twenty three draft

831
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: when they're gonna be a bunch of quarterback prospects coming

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Speaker 1: out of college. John, thanks a lot for the time,

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00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: as always, of course, Mark, thank you. Draft Wednesday is tomorrow,

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00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: and you never know what it's gonna be, but it's

835
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Speaker 1: gonna be good. We've got a lot of stuff coming

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Speaker 1: your way in the next couple of weeks free agency.

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Speaker 1: Next week, we'll visit with Nick Casserio. After a lot

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Speaker 1: of the smoke clears, it's all gonna happen. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night, everyone. Check out the Texans app for videos.

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00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: And info on your Houston Texans, all the articles, all

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Speaker 1: the stories. Have a great night, Go Texans.