1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings. I am 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: here with Clifton Brown and we are going to break 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: down the Ravens pre draft press conference the Ravens Brass 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: held out earlier today. General manager Erics Costa, head coach 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Sean Harball, director of player personnel Joe Hortise. Over the years, 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: this has been nicknamed the liars Luncheon because it's always 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: a little difficult to tell the truth from the smoke screens. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: That's what this time of the year is. But I 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: actually do always think that there's some nuggets that you 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: can glean from listening to them. And sometimes when you 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: go back after the draft and then you reread what 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: was said during this press conference, you say, you know 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: what they actually were telling the truth there. You know 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: they weren't always lying, and that's part of the game 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: at this time of the year. So Cliff, just to 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: start things off here, what were your big takeaways after 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: listening to them today. Well, obviously, wide receivers were a 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: big part of talk. With no surprise we know as 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: a position of aims are looking at this draft is 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: deep with wide receivers. Is interesting to see some of 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: the breakdowns of the wide receivers, hearing from Joe, Eric 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: and John what they've thought. They've had tance to watch 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: a lot of film of these guys. Now we're getting 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: down to nitty gritty. That was interesting. You know, Eric 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: talking about only having five picks. We all know that's 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: not usual for the Ravens that he loves having more. Ammo, 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really interesting on Draft night 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: and leading up to the draft to see what maneuvering 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: the Ravens may do. I don't think anybody be shocked 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: if you know, we've been talking about the twenty two 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: pick for months that they actually don't pick a twenty two. 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: They make a deal maybe to acquire more picks. So 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: those things were interesting too. So yeah, I mean this 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: has been a as we all know, a very you know, 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: it's different offseason, but the beat goes on and the Ravens, 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: as Eric said, there every day in the business of stockpiling. 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: What they were looking at, what they want to do 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: as far as their team and the draft is a 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: major your key of what the Ravens do. They put 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: more emphasis on the draft as much as any team 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL, totally so in terms of you kind 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: of alluded to it. Obviously unique offseason. You know, the 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: big thing there is just the uncertain round Lamar and 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: what his situation is. They made it clear that it's 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a pre draft press conference or talking about the drafts, 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: and they've addressed Lamar there. Basically, there's no update from 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: them here today on the Lamar front. They've talked about that. 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh answered about you know, three dozen questions about 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: it a week ago when you were there at the 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: owner's meeting, right, So they've kind of addressed that there. 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: That was not a talking point today. You know, in 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: terms of the quarterbacks, they seem to like the quarterback class. 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: They were to add one at some point in the draft. 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean they said, you know, there's like the four 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: ones at the top of the first round or at 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: some point in the first round, and maybe even five 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: in the first round. And Eric cosa Setti thinks that 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: there's more than four basically pro caliber quarterbacks in this draft. 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's not just those four. Yeah, So I 60 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: thought that was you know, an interesting The Ravens actually 61 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: have had luck, not luck, but they've had success and 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: drafting late round quarterbacks. Eric brought up Tyrod Taylor and 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Derek Anderson, who are both late round quarterbacks, so they 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: could go that route as well, even if Lamar Jackson 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: signed to a long term contract. You know that that's 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: something that they could do. But let's go back to 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: the top of the first round and talk receiver. Okay, 68 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: I was curious to see what they would say on 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: the receiver front. I feel like, as we're sitting here 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: today in the lounge in the Seat Geeks Studio, I 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna end up drafting a first round 72 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver. That's how I've felt over the course of 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: the last couple of months, and in hearing from them today, 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say that I feel stronger in that regard. 75 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: In some ways, I feel maybe a touch less confident 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: in that feeling. But I do feel like they really 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: like the receiver class, both at the top and throughout 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: the draft. So, like what you after hearing from them today, 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: do you think, Okay, they're going first round receiver or 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: do you think has did that alter your opinion on 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: that one way or another? I wouldn't today did not 82 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: alter my opinion. I would be really surprised if it's 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: not a wide receiver or a corner, one of those 84 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: two exactly right now you start to sound like make 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: it could be a wide receiver or a corner, or 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: maybe pass rusher, or maybe there's an outside chance there's 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: like a d lineman. I'm gonna stop it too, one 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: of If it's not one of those two, I'll be surprised. 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: And again, I mean both of those physicians. They could 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: look at the guy and say he can help us 91 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: right away. So I don't think there's anything wrong with 92 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: taking a corner if that's they feel at the corner 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: the best corner available is better than the top wide receiver. 94 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: That's what way the Ravens go that. That's why they're 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: gonna do. But who thought Kyle Hamilton would be a 96 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: Raven last year? That's a very recent example of how 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: you just never know until Draft night exactly what's going 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: to happen. I know, I almost went as almost asked 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz this question. He talked with the media a 100 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: little bit after the presser, and I don't think that 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: there was a single mention of Kyle Hamilton's at this 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: press conference last year. Nobody was talking about him because 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: everyone was just like, oh, he's top he's a top 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: eight pick, and then he ends up being there at fourteen, 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: and of course the Ravens pounce, and so who is 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: that guy this year? Oftentimes it's not a receiver or 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: a corner, you know, it's oftentimes a position that you 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't think is like the sexy position, like safety or center. 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: You know. So the Ravens got two really good players 110 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: las year in Kyle Hamilton and Tyler Winderbaum in the 111 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: first round, maybe because the positional value. They got some 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: positional value there, and that that those positions aren't typically 113 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: taken as high as corner, pass rusher, quarterback, offensive tackle. 114 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: So corner, look, I could see a first round corner. 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that that's That's where part of the reason 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: that I feel maybe slightly less confident in the receiver 117 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: direction is listening to Harball light up. We'll talk about 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. And how he'd like to see Joey 119 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Porter Senior put on some Ravens gear. I mean, that'd 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: be pretty great. But like he's to me, the two corners, 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: and they talked about both of them today, like the 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: two corners who would make a lot of sense. One's 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: Joey Porter and the other is Deontay Banks from Maryland. 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Like both of those guys physically seem to match what 125 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: the Ravens like. They both have some kind of a 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: connection loosely, you know, Banks played at Maryland and of 127 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: course you know the Steelers and Joey Porter connection. So 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: those are two that I'm like, if they're there, I 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: really wonder if the Ravens end up taking one of them. 130 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Right And as we're sitting here talking right now, Marcus 131 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: Peters is not. Yeah, so that's another factor. They always 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: want corners. But considering the situation as it stands now, sure, 133 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: if there's a corner they love sitting there, it's gonna 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: be hard to pass up. And again I think that's 135 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: fine because there are wide receivers in this draft. According 136 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: to what the Punders are saying, third round, fourth round, 137 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: you might be able to get someone. Again, I think 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens are probably gonna make a deal at some point, 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: maybe they move up in one of their later rounds, 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: move up to get a wide receiver that they feel 141 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: can help them, so they don't have to take a 142 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round to get one that 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: will help them. But yes, I do say, if you're 144 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: ranking what I think the prods are, I would put 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver as most likely, corner as second most likely. 146 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: You'll really surprise me if it's not one of these. Yea, 147 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: if it's the field, right, If it's the field, I'm surprised. Yeah, 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that, 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: And that's the direction I would be leaning to, and 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: like when I part of that will may depend on 151 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: what happens over the course of the next few weeks. Here, 152 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: of course, there's been reports that the Ravens have made 153 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: a contract offer to Odell Beckham Jr. And that they're 154 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: interested in him. If you add him to the equation, 155 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: if they were to make a trade for a veteran 156 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver, that changes the calculation in a big way. 157 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: If they resigned Marcus Peters, then that changes the calculation 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: in a potentially big way. So I think that they 159 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: may be These next couple of weeks could be really 160 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: big in determining which direction they ultimately end up going. 161 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: Who do you like like of these the three receivers, 162 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I would say who guarded the most discussion today Zay 163 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Flowers out of Boston College. Quentin Johnston, at a TCU 164 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: and Jordan Addison at a USC and pitt All of 165 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: those three all kind of different body types, different skill set. 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite Addison? I mean, I've said this before 167 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: the same page. We're on the same page. I mean 168 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: I watched Addison in Pittsburgh when he was playing with 169 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, and I was just really impressed with him, 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: not even thinking about the possibility of him being a 171 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: raven one day. I was two years ago. When he 172 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: was a Pig. They were just a team that to me, 173 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: you knew you had to stop those two guys. It 174 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: wasn't a powerhouse club and he was just a playmaker. 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: And what John Harball was alluding to the day about 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: when you watched Tabor Addison, he separates from people. Even 177 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: though he doesn't measure the fastest and forty yard dash 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: on the field, he plays fast and he listen. He 179 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: uses his body, great runs, great routes, runs through the 180 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: ball when he catches it, sets defensive backs up. He 181 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: plays like an NFL player to me in college, he's 182 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: my favorite. Um, I thought it was. I thought one 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: thing that I've and my scouting expertise here, but like 184 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: one thing that I have found to really think is 185 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: critical with receivers is body control. And like there's some 186 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: guys who I've watched who have it to this next level, 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: like Steve Smith, his body awareness was unbelievable. Like his 188 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: ability to toe tap and just have great feel for 189 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: where he was on the field was next level. I 190 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: thought Hollywoods was also excellent for like Hollywoods a small guy, 191 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: he had great speed, but like he had the ability 192 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: to know where he was in the field, to get 193 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: his feet down, just have great body awareness. And so 194 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: when John Harball mentioned with Jordan Addison, that was something 195 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: that he brought up, that he just has good spatial 196 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: awareness and feel for where he is on the football field. 197 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: And to me, like that that is a trait that 198 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: is like hard to quantify. That's not a forty yard 199 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: dash time, that's not a three cone drill, that's like 200 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: you know it when you see it. And but I 201 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: just think that that's such a critical piece of the 202 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: evaluation process. And that's one of the reasons that I 203 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: really like Addison. I mean, I think Zay Flowers is 204 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: really good too. Oh yeah, like you know, like you're 205 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of it's difficult to separate these guys, But say 206 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Flowers is a great player too. Yeah, he has to 207 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: run after cats. Flowers tape it makes you watch it again, 208 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: like when you watch the video, Yeah, you're like, whoa, 209 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: you want to see it again? So yeah, I like 210 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Flowers as impressive as well. And he's he's like the 211 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: small like and I thought Hardball made a good point 212 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: on this, Like, Okay, you say he's a small receiver 213 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: because he's five foot nine, so he's short, but he 214 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: is he is stocky, like going back to Steve Smith, 215 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: and I hate comparing anybody to like Steve Smith because 216 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: he's a likely Hall of Famer and is a rare breed. 217 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: But he, like Steve, was a shorter receiver of course, 218 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: but he would fight for extra yards and he was 219 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: he was built, you know, And so like there's there's 220 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: similar traits and say Flowers, no, no question. Johnston is 221 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: the biggest of the three, uh, which normally I like 222 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: and I do. I do like the size of Johnston. 223 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: I like guys, who are you know, easy targets for quarterbacks, 224 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: So I like him now I mentioned I actually ask 225 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: a question that Joe about he has had an issue 226 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: with dropsy? Is that a concern. It's always never something 227 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: you'd like to see Joe seem indicated. Yeah, even though 228 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: he had drops, it looks like something that is fixable. 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: And certainly his talent his first round level, So hopefully 230 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: he'd be a guy if he came to Baltimore, wherever 231 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: he goes, I'd like to see guys do well that 232 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: he'll correct that problem and put that behind him. But yeah, 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: I think that the exciting thing for Ravens fans is 234 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: that if they choose a wide receiver, there's plenty of 235 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: all varieties. And also, like um what Joe Hortie said 236 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: about Todd Munkin in that he feels whatever receiver they get, 237 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: if they get one, Monkin will find the best way 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: to use them. And really that's what you want. I mean, 239 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: all these guys have playmaking ability. Get the ball in 240 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: their hands where they can make plays, and that would 241 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: really help you off. I mean, if you talk about 242 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, Rashid Bateman and Devin Duvenai getting back to health, 243 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, Isaiah likely Nelson the exactly and then you 244 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: add one of these players to the mix, maybe even 245 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: one of you know, a veteran out still out there 246 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: in the market exactly. It depends. It could be a 247 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: lot a lot different weaponry in the passing game with 248 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator that that could be very intrigued. 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: Monkey's interesting because like the vibe that I get every 250 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: time I hear someone talk about how they're evolving this 251 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: offense and what they've seen from Monkey is people really 252 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: like him, like and I got that in listening to 253 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Joe Ortis today and they actually said basically, like when 254 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: he got here, one of the first things they did 255 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: is they bring him into the evaluation process, meet with 256 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the scouts to say, Okay, what do you think the 257 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: guys we got on the team, what do you think 258 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: of the players in the draft? Let's get your feel 259 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: for it. Obviously, Monkin is going to know this draft 260 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: really well. He was coaching some of the players and 261 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: he was going against him, so he can help you 262 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: on both ends of that. Even Ortis said that they 263 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: still get some some insight from t Martin, who's been 264 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: here for a few years now. But like when you're 265 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: a college coach, you know these guys so well, you're 266 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: recruiting them for years, you're going against them, so that 267 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: knowledge is really valuable. And so I just think that 268 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: they are really impressed with Monkin. I think everybody is. 269 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: I think John Harball has been. I think that the 270 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: front office has been and they are excited to like 271 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: I think the quote from from More Cheeses that Monk said, 272 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: just give me players and I'll and I'll make things 273 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: work around that, no question. I mean, yeah, we didn't 274 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: mention the team was with Addison, you know usc they 275 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: have a relationship. And also, yeah, Monkin one the offensive 276 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: coordinator battle. Yeah, that was a wide search. I think 277 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: that the Ravens really took the right approach to that 278 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: higher that they considered all types of coaches who ran 279 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: all types of different systems, and Monk and obviously was 280 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: the one who was the most impressive because he got 281 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: the job. So yeah, to back up your point, yeah, 282 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: he has impressed them because that's why he's here. And 283 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you look at that offense at Georgia, they attacked you 284 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Again, it's different, different challenge 285 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: here NFL, but still it wasn't a offense that just 286 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: hung its hat on one or two things. They did everything. 287 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: They hurt you on the ground, they hurt you deep, 288 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: they hurt you in the immediate they got the ball 289 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: to tight ends, they threw the running backs. I mean, yeah, 290 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: everything was on the table. So I think that that 291 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: helps you. You know, you look at these all the 292 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: offenses that roll in the NFL. Sure, you always had 293 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: one or two guys who are your main weapons. But 294 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: the more you're can add to the mix, the better. 295 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are gonna do a lot of 296 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: things next season that they haven't done, you know in 297 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: previous seasons here lately, to tag people in different ways. 298 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, I say a quick break 299 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back and dive into some of 300 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: the other big takeaways from the presser. 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That's great, all right, So a couple other 319 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: things I want to get to. We hit on this 320 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: a little bit, but just in terms of the overall 321 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: draft strategy. So only five picks right now. I get 322 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: the sense that it's going to end up being more 323 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: than five picks, but I don't think much more. I 324 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: don't think like that's going to go from five to ten. 325 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna set the over at seven, like 326 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: I don't see it, And I don't see the Ravens 327 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: ending up with more than seven draft picks. Now, certainly 328 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: they could trade back in the first round, and if 329 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: they're there at twenty two and like Porter and Addison 330 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: and you know, Quinn Johnston are all still there, maybe 331 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: they try to trade back four spots and add an 332 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: extra pick or something like that, especially since they don't 333 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: have a second round pick this year. But it's a 334 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: Constam made kind of an interesting point. Over the last 335 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: three years, the Ravens have drafted twenty nine players. So 336 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: when you draft that many players, and not all those 337 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: guys aren't still on the team, but a lot of 338 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: them are. And so when you draft that many guys, 339 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: it's hard to find spots for him, and so then 340 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: you end up either cutting players that you feel like 341 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's a year too soon and they still have 342 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: potential and you have to cut them but you don't 343 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: really want to, or you have them on the team 344 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: but you're not really sure if they're ready like that 345 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: that you're kind of you kind of end up in 346 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: this roster crunch. And so when you have the years 347 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: like the Ravens have. Last year they had eleven picks, 348 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to offset that with like a 349 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: lean draft, and that's what this year is going to be. 350 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: And so I just think that's kind of a unique 351 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: approach on the strategy. It's like they loaded up the 352 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: last few years. This year they won't have as many 353 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: draft picks. That's what part of the reason they were 354 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with going out and using a second round pick 355 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: to acquire Roquan Smith last year. So I do think 356 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: they'll add another one or two, but I don't think 357 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: it'll be much more than that. I'd agree. And I 358 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: think that yeah, and they come early, and that you 359 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: mentioned they don't have a second round pick, if they 360 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: feel like they can trade back and get the guy 361 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: they want in the first round, and then maybe at 362 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: some point in the second round, early third they could 363 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: get another player who they are pretty confident would help 364 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: them right away. That that might be the time to, 365 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, to try and swing a deal to get 366 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: that player you send to go up then maybe oh interesting, 367 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: maybe so maybe they maybe they maybe they go from 368 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: five to seven but then back down to five. Yeah, 369 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean it could be more than just one maneuver. Yeah, 370 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: especially again, you know, I think the first rounds are 371 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: going to be really important to set up how much 372 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: dealing they're gonna do, because, as you mentioned, if they're 373 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: sitting there at twenty two and they feel like there's 374 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: three or four guys still on the board that they love. 375 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way that they just stay 376 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: at twenty two at that point. I think they definitely 377 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: would move back and try and get an extra pick somewhere. 378 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean they're right. They have had a 379 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of draft picks early guys who are playing. You know, 380 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: Linda Baum stepped right in last year. Hamilton to me, 381 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be full time, you know, starting next year. 382 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: I would anticipate and for years to come. So yeah, 383 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean there's not pressure for them to get more picks. 384 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: But they like, as he said that he loved, They 385 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: love the draft. You get a good player in the 386 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: draft and get them under contract for four or five years, 387 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: you know, not making you know, outrageous money. That's the 388 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: way to go now. I mean it's always been the 389 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: way to go for the Ravens. It's always been a 390 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: way to go. And yeah, I think that they're gonna maneuver, 391 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna just stay at five. 392 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: I agree with you, maybe no more than seven. I 393 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: was gonna say even maybe just get one one extra pick. Yeah, 394 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: I would say that at six. I mean, but I 395 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: think one of those situations of like moving back from 396 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty five, you know, twenty two to 397 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: twenty four something like that, and then adding a fourth 398 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: round pick like that could be. That could be what 399 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: they end up doing. That would not surprise me at all. 400 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: That's the most likely scenario. Yeah, that, especially if there's 401 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: a handful of those guys there, then they may just say, 402 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: let's just let's just slide back a few spots add 403 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: an extra pick. But I'm with you, I think it's 404 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be. They're not 405 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna double the number of picks. It might just be 406 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more by moving back a few spots, 407 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: all right. So in listening to them today, do you 408 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: think that they're going back to the positions that they 409 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: could take? He was asked about edge rusher and defensive line. 410 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Not huge needs, you know, edge rusher. The Ravens took 411 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: David A. Joba in the second round last year, who 412 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: probably was gonna be a first round pick before the injury. 413 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: They took a Dafeway in the first round the previous year. 414 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: So are they gonna are they going to take another 415 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: like those two young players. The Ravens have a lot 416 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: of stock, and then they still have Taias Bowser. They 417 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: could still bring back Justin Houston at some point. He's 418 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: still out there. So you know, like if you end 419 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: up drafting a high pick, you know, first round pick, 420 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna limit the reps for Oway, Bowser or a 421 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: job though. You know, so what do you think that 422 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: could be an option or D line? Now d line, 423 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: they have a bunch of young guys class Campbell obviously 424 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: has gone now, but they still have some young players 425 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: there who are playing really well, Justin Madibik, Travis Jones. 426 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: They're excited about Project Washington. They sell Michael Pierce. So like, 427 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: of course, the Ravens are never gonna say, no way, 428 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: we're not gonna take someone at that spot. But in 429 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: hearing from them, did you think that there's any chance 430 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: that it could be a dark horse pick there outside 431 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: backer or D line? Not first round, even if they 432 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: trade down, But I think once you get to third 433 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: round with them not having a second and assuming it 434 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: stays that way, sure they could take an edge rusher 435 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: in the third round. I went shot or anywhere else. 436 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, but edgins rushers, that's another you're talking about. 437 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, never have enough corners, never enough edge rushers either. Yeah, 438 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean I love the potential of a Jabo and 439 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: old way. I think it's gonna be determined to you know, 440 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: really step up this year. It's a great opportunity for 441 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: both of those young players. But I mean, you never 442 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: just want to rely on one or two guys. We 443 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: don't know if Justin Houston's coming back, and Houston led 444 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: them in sides last year nine that if he does 445 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: not come back, that means the Ravens have long they're 446 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: leading sack producer last year, and Kalai Scambla at five 447 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: and have sacks. He's he won't be back either, right, 448 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: So I mean pass rushing is always important, yeah, And 449 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: so don't want to be light there. Nope. I could 450 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: see them going their second pick in this year's draft 451 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: being a pass rusher or anywhere else. But I think 452 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: it's more likely it would be a corner if it's 453 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: not a obvious. That's the thing that's interesting about this 454 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: draft and where the raven stam right now and giving 455 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: some of the roster uncertainty, like if you look at 456 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: it right now, like the biggest needs receiver in corner 457 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: probably it's what you would point to. Okay, they don't 458 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: have a second round pick, so all of a sudden, 459 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: you go save receiver in the first, corner in the third. 460 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: Now you're down into if you want to address those 461 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: other spots. How much can you really expect to get 462 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: out of fourth round linebackers, first year outside not a ton, 463 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: right and so and so to your point, like, but 464 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: if they if they if they go with a dark 465 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: horse pick, if all of a sudden they feel like 466 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: there's an edge rusher in the first round, let's say, 467 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: and then it's like, okay, well now that means corner 468 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: or wide receiver that's getting pushed. And so now it's like, okay, 469 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: well now you're not taking a corner until the fourth round. 470 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: Well you took two fourth round corners last year, and 471 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: so what can you realistically expect out of a rookie 472 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: fourth round corner or a rookie fourth round receiver. It's 473 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: just difficult. So it's that's where like I don't see, 474 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I don't I would be really shocked 475 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: if the Ravens ended up drafting one of those dark 476 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: horse positions in the first round, because then that puts 477 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: you in a position where you need immediate contributors at 478 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: either corner or receiver. As it stands right now. You 479 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: could still add in free agency, but as it stands 480 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: right now, you need a media contributors in that department. 481 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: If you don't get guys in the drafts who could 482 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: be immedia contributors, which is likely going to be a 483 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: first or maybe three round pick, now you're going to 484 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: be asking a lot out of a four fifth round pick. Well, yeah, 485 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: that's what makes all this so interesting because you also 486 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: those are all fair points, but you don't want to reach, 487 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: I know, and so the count. Yeah, my feeling is 488 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: after just like before the draft, you want to plug 489 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: as many holes as you can after the draft. During 490 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: the draft, you don't want to reach. And then after 491 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: the draft there's still what you feel our holes. Then 492 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you do whatever you need to do between May and 493 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: September to try and plug those holes. Yea. And so 494 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: if they don't get a quality corner, either in free 495 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: agency or the draft, then that would raise a priority 496 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: to either trade or sign for one or pick up 497 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: somebody who's a cap casual or gets cut in training 498 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: camp later. I mean, yeah, all teams have holes even 499 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: after the draft. So the question is you just don't 500 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: want that to be too many, and you want to 501 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: definitely make sure that you upgrade your talent that you 502 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: hit on your draft pick. So there's gonna be holes 503 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: after this, not just for the Ravens but for every team. Yeah, 504 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: it's a costa kind of compared to It's like buying 505 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: a house. Any hole owners out there can identify with this. 506 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: You buy a house and all of a sudden, the 507 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: water heater goes out, or you need to patch up 508 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: a hole in the roof, or you need to whatever. 509 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: There's always something that you end up needing to do. 510 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: And that is just like building a roster on a 511 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: football team. As long as you can email us at 512 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: the Lounge at Ravens on NFL dot Net and Cliff, 513 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: we do have a question here. It comes from Jordan 514 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: and he said, I don't know if other Ravens fans 515 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: are like this, but I'm kind of over all the 516 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: Lamar talk until something actually happens. With that being said, 517 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: what are the other there? With that being said, there 518 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: are other players on this team, So What is the 519 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: news on Patrick Queen and the fifth year option. Yeah, 520 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: Eric was asked that during the press Conferent said that 521 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: they would have a discussion, meaning they would with Queen, 522 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: but you know, he wasn't ready to announce anything today. Yeah, 523 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: that is going to be interesting decision. I mean, Queen 524 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: had his best season and really came on after the 525 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: acquisition of Roquan Smith. The idea of Queen and Smith 526 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: being a tandem for the next two years is really 527 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: to me intriguing from a Raven's perspective. I mean they 528 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: to me, they would be one of the top inside 529 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: linebacker tandems in the league moving forward. However, you know, 530 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: money is always a factor. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting decision. Yeah, 531 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: but I just I do like the way Queen came 532 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: on last year, and I do love the way ro 533 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: Quan obviously fit in as soon as he came. So 534 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, yeah, you know, it could go. 535 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: There's a few different ways that the Ravens could take this. 536 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: The deadline is May first, by the way, so right 537 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: after the draft, so you know, they could decline the option, 538 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: and then this would mean that Patrick Queen is going 539 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: into the final year of his contract, which makes us 540 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: a contract year and then you know, could go any 541 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: direction from there. They could pick up the option, which 542 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: gives them some protection, gives Patrick Queen a nice payday after, 543 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, especially after the season, knowing that he would 544 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: be signed for the fifth year option. The other one 545 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: is you work out an extension and the money has 546 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: to make sense there for both sides. You know, Patrick 547 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: Queen is a really good player and he's certainly you know, 548 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: would feel like he should get a nice contract, and 549 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: so you could work out an extension there where you 550 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: don't have to use that fifth year option. Since it's 551 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: since Patrick Queen has played his first three seasons, he's 552 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: now eligible to work out an extension, So you know, 553 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: maybe that's part of that conversation. I don't know, but 554 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: you could have that conversation and say, okay, we'll add 555 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, two more years, three more years, whatever the 556 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: number is, and here's what that here's what that cap figure, 557 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: and here's what the annual salary would be. That's another 558 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: possibility there. So, um, you know, I don't think it's 559 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: necessarily as black and white as you're picking up the option. 560 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: He's going to be here this year, and next you're 561 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: not picking up the option He's not going to be 562 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: here after this year. I think that there's different options 563 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: within that. So and look, I think Patrick Queens a 564 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: really good player. I agree with you. He came on 565 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: strong last year, and the idea of him and Roqua 566 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: next to each other for the for the foreseeable future 567 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: is certainly an attractive possibility. So all right, before we 568 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: wrap up here, Cliff, is there any other points that 569 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: really stood out to you? Um? And listening to them, well, 570 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was interesting U when they 571 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: talked about town Monk and how involved already is as 572 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: far as them bouncing ideas off of him. Players fit 573 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: his style. M Yeah, we haven't seen his offense yet, um, 574 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: And it's just the hearing about it it makes me 575 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: more eager to just see what's gonna happen. Yeah, I mean, yeah, 576 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Georgia was a was a powerhouse. It 577 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: was really fun. They were devastating offense. And yeah, I 578 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: think that he's on the cutting edge of the way 579 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: the game is being played now. And I just it 580 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: was curious there that you heard that George's part of 581 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: the process. Yes, very much, so immediately and I think 582 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: he has to be. I mean because I mean to 583 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl and to be a contender. Now, 584 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: you have to be able to score these offenses now, 585 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: no matter how good your defense is. In my opinion, 586 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: it's just very very difficult to shut teams down. You 587 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: can slow them down. Used to be, you know, if 588 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: you had a great defense, you had a shot to 589 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: shut a team down. I think it's just very very 590 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: hard to shut down the top teams. Uh, you can 591 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: slow them down, yeah, but you know, hold them to 592 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: ten points, thirteen points. It's just too hard. Yeah, So 593 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to counter and score totally. 594 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: So we'll see. Yeah. Well, if you want to listen 595 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: to the full press conference, you can do that on 596 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: our Ravens press pass fee. 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Cliff, 616 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: thanks for filling in. We appreciate it and we will 617 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: talk with you again soon. Thanks for listening.