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Speaker 1: I mean that's the way with basketball that because there's

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to twenty.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen Bulls heat in the second round, we're talking no

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler went out and played forty eight minutes against Lebron,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw a tweak going around the other night too,

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Speaker 2: That's a big, big event. Okay, So Jimmy versus Brin, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What do you got Lee, there's a lot of overlapping

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Speaker 1: That's what we wanted the playoffs, that's what we want

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I think it was the ocr road. Lee,

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Speaker 2: I'll just double down on what you're saying, Lee from

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I love all this, Like revenge angles to this,

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Rondo versus the haters is interesting because I

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Speaker 3: That just didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Cuckoch just Alric couldn't couldn't pull it off, couldn't shut

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Speaker 2: Yeah again Leol, specifically.

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Speaker 4: Do you consider the doubters and the haters to be

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, Tray, I just wanted to say something different.

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Speaker 1: Different. I think they're different. For sure. You can hide

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Speaker 2: That doubt that Jimmy Butler can lead a team to

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Speaker 1: You're just saying, like, you know, that storyline is kind

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Speaker 2: Okay, dominating Bam performance pretty key for task there for

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Speaker 4: out of bounds, so controlling the lane, sure, we'll say,

429
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Speaker 4: because Bam is going to have his work cutout for him.

430
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Speaker 4: It'll be hard enough stopping Lebron James. As we saw

431
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Speaker 4: in the closeout game against Denver, when he decides I'm

432
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Speaker 4: gonna shoot a lay up every single time, there's not

433
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Speaker 4: a lot that people can do to stop it. And

434
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Speaker 4: that's without accounting for the fact that Anthony Davis is

435
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Speaker 4: the biggest mismatch in the NBA right now. How do

436
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 4: you guard that guy? How do you keep him off

437
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,959
Speaker 4: the rim? John Schuman's in the chat. He has some

438
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Speaker 4: incredible numbers over on NBA dot com talking about the

439
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Speaker 4: Lakers being the best second chance rebounding team and the

440
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Speaker 4: best transition team. That means you got to get back

441
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 4: and you got to get bored. You got to be

442
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Speaker 4: able to shut it down inside. It's a lot easier

443
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Speaker 4: said than done. The Lakers have a lot of huge guys,

444
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Speaker 4: They've got a lot of small guys who still play very,

445
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Speaker 4: very big, and it's gonna just beat It's gonna be

446
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Speaker 4: very tough for the Heat to limit Lebron inside while

447
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 4: also limiting Anthony Davis inside, while also somehow trying to

448
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Speaker 4: figure out how to score on the other side on offense,

449
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 4: because both of these teams shoot a lot of threes,

450
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Speaker 4: but they're also dedicated to the interior. And you see

451
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Speaker 4: it really in the fourth quarter when it comes down

452
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Speaker 4: to it and the heater saying, Jimmy, get in the lane, Goren,

453
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 4: get in the lane, Bam, maybe bring the ball up

454
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 4: and get in the lane. They understand that a layup

455
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 4: and a dunk is still the best shot in basketball.

456
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Speaker 4: Who controls that unpainted area is gonna win this series.

457
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Speaker 2: Trey Ty, let me have you this. Do you think

458
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Speaker 2: Vogel in Game one does does Dwyight get the start?

459
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Speaker 2: Does JaVale get the start? Do they not go to

460
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Speaker 2: bigs and go with you know, a d and then

461
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 2: of course a smaller Lebron or KuPS or whoever or

462
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Speaker 2: Morrise even for your four, Like, what do you think

463
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: the strategy is right from the jump for Vogel and

464
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Speaker 2: the Lakers? Do they lean into eighty at the five

465
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Speaker 2: or continue to play big big ball.

466
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Speaker 4: They'll probably start big big ball. I would imagine Dwight

467
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 4: played pretty well. This last series had certainly had an

468
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Speaker 4: impact drawing files on Nikola Jokic. That's going to be

469
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Speaker 4: Another huge area for Bam to work on is staying

470
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Speaker 4: out of foul trouble because they needed to play as

471
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Speaker 4: many minutes as he possibly can in this series. If

472
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Speaker 4: he's having to sit on the bench as it picking

473
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Speaker 4: up a couple of early ones, that would be trouble

474
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Speaker 4: for the Heat. But I think that the Lakers will

475
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Speaker 4: start with their double bigs. They've been really good offensively

476
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Speaker 4: with double bigs, and you know that's their standard alignment,

477
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Speaker 4: So start the series with that. The wild card is

478
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: always whenever they go with Davis at the five, because

479
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: the guy's just an impossible matchup right now. Like Bam

480
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: is the guy you would say, oh, yeah, he's cut

481
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Speaker 4: out to guard Anthony Davis. He's got the size, he's

482
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Speaker 4: got the strength, he's got the quickness, he's got everything

483
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: you would think you need. But Anthony Davis, when we

484
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Speaker 4: see him standing next to Bam, we're gonna see how

485
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Speaker 4: huge Anthony Davis really is. I think we're we're still

486
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Speaker 4: thinking of Anthony Davis when he was drafted as a

487
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Speaker 4: skinny guy. He's just like a mammoth, humongous center who's

488
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Speaker 4: one of the fastest guys out there.

489
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Speaker 2: Right now, it's crazy to see that.

490
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Speaker 4: You know, his biggest playoff moment so far is hitting

491
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Speaker 4: a three pointer when really he could be dunking every

492
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Speaker 4: single time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. I know. I think it

494
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Speaker 2: was HOLLINGERD two writing for The Athletic, the idea when

495
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Speaker 2: the bigs are out there, ad Heck, Dwight, even Javail

496
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Speaker 2: to some degree, you know, the threat of a lob

497
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Speaker 2: lee is there against his own defense. I mean, especially

498
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Speaker 2: when you have great passers like Lebron and Rondo, you

499
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Speaker 2: can get sort of behind the defense a little bit

500
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Speaker 2: when they're like collapsing into the middle and there's a

501
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Speaker 2: lob threat there. There's an aloop threat there with some

502
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Speaker 2: of those guys because you can just chuck it up

503
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 2: there and have them we'll get it.

504
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Speaker 1: And really as well for the heat, who else have

505
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: they got that they can play, you know, minutes that

506
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Speaker 1: they trust.

507
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Derek Jones, it's time to shotgun a beer

508
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: and bring back Myraus Leonard.

509
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: But literally that's what it is. For spousal. It's like

510
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: I need to buy, you know, because because he can't

511
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: play forty eight minutes of BAM every night, you know,

512
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: because he may get in foul trouble and just he's

513
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: going to be exhausted if he has to do it

514
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: at both ends of the floor because he's so important

515
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: to what they do on the offensive end. So you know,

516
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Speaker 1: Kelly Olynnik, you know, someone like that is going to

517
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Speaker 1: have to sort of somehow mop up a few minutes

518
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Speaker 1: here for the heat. But that is going to be

519
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Speaker 1: danger time because they've got Java, They've got Dwight, and

520
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: they've got Anthony Davis. All those three guys they can

521
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: just love the ball inside too. Who can they can

522
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: all catch it and finish it and dunk. So that

523
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: is a real question mark here for the heat. How

524
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Speaker 1: they defend that, and that's it's going to be tough

525
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Speaker 1: because you know, we know that Bam is so good,

526
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Speaker 1: but for the heat in this series, you know, Kelly

527
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: on Nelly when he came out, you know, he's a

528
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: big for them, He's not he's certainly not a traditional big,

529
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Speaker 1: but he was awful and so and he's probably their

530
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: most experienced go I say that that's just.

531
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Speaker 2: He was and he has been. But he also can

532
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: catch fire and you know, can give you something offensively.

533
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: If a big on the Lakers is matched up against him,

534
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: and he can pull him out and has hit some threes,

535
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna have airspace.

536
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you yeah, he can. You're right,

537
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: he can. But we haven't seen anything near that right now.

538
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, he needs to do it at least in

539
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: one or two games. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see

540
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 1: how the hate try to compensate when Bam is off

541
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the floor, because that that's a huge, huge hole for them.

542
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, keeping them off the glass when the heater in

543
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: the zone is going to be not It's gonna be

544
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: easier said than done because I remember from high school days,

545
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 2: coach and I always say, and when a team was

546
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Speaker 2: playing the zone against you, hey, you can rebound because

547
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: and you can in theory because it's not man to man.

548
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: It's not as easy to get, you know, a box

549
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: out on a guy. There's just it's just like you're

550
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: taking up a space. But you got to really work

551
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: as a gang to rebound that and find somebody and

552
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: block them out and stuff like that, especially about the

553
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Speaker 2: Biggs on the Lakers.

554
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Speaker 1: Didn't you have seven foot four Rick Smith's.

555
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: On you think you're thinking Darryl Smit's Now, see, here's

556
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: the thing Darryl Smith's by far the biggest guy on

557
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: our team, definitely the slowest and didn't have didn't have

558
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: a nose for the ball. Let's just say that. I'll

559
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: just be honest. Jil Smith was forced to play basketball

560
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: in high school. He hated it. He didn't want to play,

561
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: but he was a giant, so they're like, you gotta

562
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Speaker 2: play basket. Yeah, so that's on the watch. Okay, I'll

563
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: get to my sort of key here to this series.

564
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about like great passing and you

565
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: can find that little lob of the alley oops against

566
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: the zone. But another big part to beating a zone,

567
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: Miami's great zone, is you got to hit the three

568
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get looks now. You need to penetrate

569
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: and then kick out if possible, and not just swing

570
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: it around, which we saw the Celtics do at times.

571
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Speaker 2: But I mentioned this on a previous podcast. The Lakers

572
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Speaker 2: are undefeated in the playoffs when they shoot higher than

573
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Speaker 2: thirty percent from three. Haven't lost a game when they

574
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Speaker 2: hit that mark. So we're talking Danny Green, KCP Kuzma,

575
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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying it. Even Rondo Lee, who's

576
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: you know doesn't take a ton, but has been knocking

577
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: them down with pretty good consistency. So they're gonna be there,

578
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: especially the corners. That's a look that you're gonna get

579
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: against the zone defense, and they're gonna have to hit

580
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: some They just simply as that. I don't care if

581
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: you got Lebron and eighty. Some of these guys got

582
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: to contribute, and you got to have one or two

583
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: of them. Like the heat too, where we talk about like, hey,

584
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: is Hero gonna have the game from distance or is

585
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: it dragage or is it Duncan Robinson. Same thing with

586
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: the Lakers. They're just not as big as names, but

587
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: those guys and they've proven it before, especially in Danny

588
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Green and finals, gotta knock them down. So that's what

589
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm watching. Keep it as simple as that. And we saw,

590
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: by the way, if you go back to the regular season,

591
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: remember twenty nineteen, guys, these teams did play. The Lakers

592
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: scored thirty nine points on thirty five possessions against Miami

593
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: Zone in the regular season, so again Lakers can offer

594
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: a different look. There were different pieces even at the time.

595
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: There's no Week at all, no Crowder and stuff like that.

596
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: But just so you know they've seen it. And man,

597
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: I think the best guy you'd want on your team

598
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: to beat his zone is Lebron James, probably the smartest

599
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: player of all time. Rondo might be second for crying

600
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Speaker 2: out loud. So that's good. That's a good thing for

601
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: the league.

602
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Anthony Davis honestly might be third as well.

603
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: He's a pretty good passer from pretty good passer and

604
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: a decent fifteen footer. And that's if he's playing at

605
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: the nail. If he's the guy in the dunker spot

606
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: you mentioned it earlier, it's going to be an alley

607
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: oop fest. It could be it could be Tyler Hero.

608
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Speaker 4: What's Tyler Hero doing when you throw an alley?

609
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: You fantasy? Yeah, I mean he's in probably one of

610
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: the corners, and he's good luck getting back to get

611
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: a body on that aleop, I agree with that. What

612
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: do you have Lee here for a kid?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

614
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: Well, I'm similar to you.

615
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Speaker 1: I'm actually going with a heat, but I'm going specifically

616
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Speaker 1: with their three point accuracy because in wins in the

617
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: bubble they're shooting thirty eight percent from downtown and in

618
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: losses it's down to twenty eight percent. And also in losses,

619
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Speaker 1: they're just firing away a lot more. Now they're actually

620
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: hitting about a similar amount fourteen in wins and twelve

621
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Speaker 1: in losses. But it's that accuracy which is really really

622
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: important here for Miami, and that's just where they can

623
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: at least stretch the Lakers out. They've got guys who

624
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: can shoot it in Hero, Robinson, Dragic, I mean Crowder

625
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: if he can find his spot again. And you saw

626
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: what Igudala did in Game six against the Celtics. So

627
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: there's so many guys who are capable of knocking them down.

628
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: I think this is just so important for Miami that

629
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: they have to be able to get those guys going

630
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: early and just hitting them a lot, because this is

631
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: the way that the heat play. You know, Bam, we

632
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: know he's great, but he's going to be facing just

633
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: a brick wall every time he goes into the paint here.

634
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: He's not going to have it like he did against

635
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: the Celtics, where he's going up against Tyson Cantor and

636
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Williams or whoever it was. Now he's going to have

637
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Dwight or Javal or Anthony Davis almost every single time

638
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: he touches the ball so you know he's a good passer,

639
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: he's going to look for his shooters. They have to

640
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: knock him down, and that's when the heater at their best,

641
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: when it's like the other team is kind of scrambling,

642
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: because if that ball moves around and it goes from

643
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Hero or to Duncan, ROMs or whoever it is, and

644
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: they're open. I feel good that those guys can knock

645
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: those shots down. And they're both shown as well they're

646
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: capable of hitting five or six or seven in a game,

647
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: so you know that is something that's very very important

648
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: for him. They need to have those guys hitting threes.

649
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: Dragon just hit some big ones Crowd, as I mentioned,

650
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: didn't have a great series against the Celtics. Prior to that,

651
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: he was very very good. So that is a huge,

652
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: huge factor here for Miami. Those threes are dropping, there

653
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: are a chance. If they're not, it's really really hard

654
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: to see how they're going to get points flowing, you.

655
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

656
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, we know he's he can be a good scorer,

657
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: but again you're going up against just a completely different

658
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: defensive look. So I think that's key that Miami can

659
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: hit some threes.

660
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: It's almost cheating picking three point shooting as a key

661
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: to a series in twenty twenty because it's so obvious, right,

662
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you're gonna have looks, they're gonna give

663
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: them to you, and you have to hit him at

664
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Speaker 2: a decent club.

665
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Speaker 3: I picked.

666
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: I did the same thing as Elia.

667
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I actually picked this for my key

668
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: to the series. For the heat so far, every single

669
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: time I've proven to be true, it has, so it

670
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: has and again, you know, from one night to the next,

671
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: you're going to see you know, you've seen Duncan Robinson

672
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: hit six or seven threes and then while Tyler Hero

673
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: maybe only has one or none. You know, so they've

674
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: got different guys who can do it. You're not relying

675
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: on the same guy, but someone has to do it

676
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: every game.

677
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Anything to add to that task, either

678
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: the bigs, what the vocal in them, do the shooting

679
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: stuff like that. No, all right, we've got lots more, Yeah,

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681
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the Twitter machine going crazy last night

720
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: for Patrick Mahomes. What was he up to last night?

721
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: There tk doing something special there on the gridiron always

722
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: man always. The Bears are three and o right now,

723
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: but they drafted Sam Bowie. They took Mitch Trubisky at

724
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: number two. They traded up for him. They could have

725
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: had Patrick Mahomes, the greatest football player of his generation.

726
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: But like I said, Bears three and oh Bill's three

727
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: and oh see in the Super Bowl.

728
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: Wow, Bears, Patrick Mahomes, don't call me Pat, his mother tweeted,

729
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: So tell this announcer to stop calling my son Pat Mahomes.

730
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: It's Patrick. Unless that was a fake, mom, I'm pretty sure.

731
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: I did see it. I only saw one clip on Twitter.

732
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: He did like a He literally did a fake jump

733
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: throw is the best way to call it. Wow, you

734
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: don't see that often. He jumped lee like he was

735
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: gonna throw it, and obviously did a pump fake. Now

736
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: you see them, of course, a pump fake all the time,

737
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: or what do you call it? Pump fake? That's all right?

738
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: And football is it? Yeah?

739
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: Thing?

740
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? And but he did it jump. It was insane, guys,

741
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: So damn athletic.

742
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: Also threw a sixty yard by while fading away running

743
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: back right on the money. Oh Patrick Mahomes.

744
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Falling in Pat No matter what though at A Let's

745
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: get to some X factors. Let's start with the heat

746
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: potential Miami heat X factor in this NBA Finals matchup

747
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: tasket started, who you got?

748
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: Well, this one's hard because they have so many guys

749
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: that can pot you twenty points no problem. So I

750
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: went with a guy who's going to be more of

751
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 3: an impact I think off the floor, and that sounds

752
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: dumb when the game is played on the floor, but

753
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: Andre Iguodala and his arms, he's going to play a

754
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: lot of defense with those arms on Lebron. You know,

755
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: he's crafty and handsy. But as far as off the floor,

756
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: not one of their starters has been in an NBA

757
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: Finals before, so I think they're going to rely on

758
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: Iggy a little bit just for that boost because he's

759
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: been there so many times against Lebron James, and beating

760
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: Lebron is mental. I think that's a huge, huge part

761
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: of it, just having that confident And obviously they've got

762
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: guys who've won championships, not in their starting five, but

763
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: yeah up there with the mask on and pat Riley

764
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: and so I think a lot of it is part

765
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: of that culture, and Igdala was brought in for this

766
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: purpose to sort of introduce that winning idea and culture,

767
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: even though they've got guys who've got a ton of

768
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: playoff experience in Jimmy and Goren, Dragic and others. Igdal

769
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: is just going to be more of a hey guys,

770
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: I beat this guy. I beat this guy, just to

771
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: give him a little bit of that mentalize because you know,

772
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: Lebron comes in with that edge himself, So that's what

773
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: Igodala is going to be doing. And then he'll be

774
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 3: flailing his arms at Lebron, trying to distract him and

775
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: trying to get a swat here or there and try

776
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: not to get a foul call. So Iggy's my game.

777
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: All right? Who you got? Lee?

778
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: I'm actually going with Jay Crowder because he has been very,

779
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: very good for the heat in the playoffs, certainly in

780
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: the first two rounds where he was knocking down those threes,

781
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: shooting forty on nearly four a game. But he really

782
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: cooled off against the Boston Celtics to the point where

783
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: he's only shooting twenty five percent and the shots just

784
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: didn't look the same. But he is so important, not

785
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: just on the offensive end, but on the defensive end,

786
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: as I think he probably starts on Lebron myself because

787
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: he's a big guy. He's a stronger guy. Look, No

788
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: one can stop Lebron, and I think that if you're

789
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: the Heat, you probably want to bring Iggy off the bench.

790
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: That's my guess. I don't think they want to start Iggy.

791
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: I think I think Crowder probably starts on him. So

792
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: he's got to do a good job on him. He's

793
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: got to make Lebron work. He's got to get into

794
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: his face, he's got to be physical with him, he's

795
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: got to stay in front of him. All these sort

796
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: of cliche things that we talk about, but this is

797
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: Crowder's I think, primary responsibility for the Heat out there.

798
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: And then on the offensive end, if Lebron picks him up,

799
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: go to the corner and you hit those threes. Man,

800
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: you've got to sort of try to punish Lebron if

801
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: you can at that end. I think that's such an

802
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: important factor because we know Dragons has got to be

803
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: big for them, obviously Jimmy and Bam, but Crowder has

804
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: a huge role to play in this series. And now,

805
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: if he's good, and if he's hitting threes and playing

806
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: good defense, then that's huge for Miami. But if he's not,

807
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: if he's missing those threes, if he gets in for

808
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: oul trouble, or if he's just you know, not doing

809
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: a good job on Lebron. Then it's like he becomes

810
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: a passenger on that team. So we've seen him be

811
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: very very good at times, particularly down in the bubble.

812
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: We've also seen at times it sort of regress to

813
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: the mean a little bit, particularly without three point shooting.

814
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: But I think the Heat trust him, and I think

815
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: the Heat realized that it's like, this is a guy

816
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: who can you know, we saw him hit six threes

817
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: at one time against the Cell. This is buck excuse me,

818
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: So you know he's capable of big nights, a big

819
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: important minutes out there, and now he has to absolutely

820
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: produce for the Heat.

821
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: I like that both teams basically have the same guy.

822
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: Lakers have Danny Green and the Heat have j Crowder.

823
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: And it's like those guys could catch fire five or

824
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: six no problem threes, or they could have a long,

825
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: long night and look like they're look like they're a

826
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: little washed at times out there. But that's a good

827
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: one great X factor. Trey, what do you got? Who

828
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: do you got? What do you got?

829
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: Maybe it'll be Solomon Hill. You know, we've said it

830
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: was the Jay Crowder trade for a while. Then it

831
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: turned back to the andre Iguidala trade during the last series,

832
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: and maybe it'll be the.

833
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Solomon Hill series. That's quite the X factor.

834
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: Solomon Hill comes in, lights it up playing against the

835
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: Raptors in twenty sixteen.

836
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Oh, get it off in time, buddy.

837
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: Anyways, for me, the X factor is the zone. The

838
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: zone basically won the Heat the series against the Boston Celtics.

839
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: They look like they had never seen a zone before

840
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: despite seeing it several times against the Raptors. The Lakers

841
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: will now have had a few days to prepare for it.

842
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: Not to mention, the zone has kind of been the

843
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: story of the bubble for the Heat, so it's not

844
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: gonna be a surprise, and they've done very well against it.

845
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: Like we said, they've got three great minds for slicing

846
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: up the zone. That being said, you would still think

847
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be an effective strategy just because the Lakers

848
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: three point shooting can come and go, and they score

849
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: a ton of baskets inside if you want to, if

850
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: you want to gum up the paint, put as many

851
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 4: guys around the paint as you can. It certainly worked

852
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: against the Celtics. The Lakers are gonna be ready for it.

853
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: They're gonna be prepared for it, and they've got the

854
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: guys to beat it. But Miami's still gonna want it

855
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: to be successful. And to even get into a zone,

856
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: they've got to be getting back on defense, right. They

857
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: got to take away the transition attack of the Lakers.

858
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: Lebron wants to push the pace, Rondo wants to put

859
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: the pace. Anthony Davis is obviously a terror in transition

860
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: as well. So to set up a zone, you gotta

861
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: get you gotta you gotta score, then you gotta get

862
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: back on defense before the other team, and then you

863
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: gotta set up, and then you gotta guard all the guys.

864
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Could it work? It could work.

865
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: You would think more teams would try zoning up on

866
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: the Lakers, but they've got some great basketball iques there,

867
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: so they may be able to slice it up. Miami

868
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: is still gonna try it though.

869
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's I'm so excited to see Lebron specifically try

870
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: and beat a zone, like a really good looking zone too.

871
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: As we've talked about with Jimmy or Crowder or Igodola

872
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: at the front, that's what makes the zone incredible. It's

873
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: those two guys at the front that are big, strong,

874
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: you know, even when they get beat are then coming

875
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: back from behind and obviously putting pressure on. So yeah,

876
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to see what Vogel and Lebron and

877
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: UH and the Lakers what their what their strategy is

878
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: to try and unlock this and UH and get good lucks.

879
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: I will go I struggle with this one because you,

880
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: like you sort of were saying their tasks. It feels

881
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: like you can pick a lot of guys. I mean,

882
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: there's like we talked about all these guys that can

883
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: like catch fire from three, so you could pick one

884
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: of them. I guess I'll just go Tyler Hero only

885
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: because when you think about it, he played against the

886
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Lakers in the regular season ten months ago, like games

887
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: in November and December, and he was obviously a rookie

888
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: and he did nothing. I think he shot like five

889
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: of twenty in the two regular season games combined. So

890
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: it's like and that, why would that be a surprise. Again,

891
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: he's a rook that a lot of people hadn't even

892
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: heard of at that time. But that's a long time ago.

893
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: This guy's matured a lot, you know, He's grown a

894
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: couple of whiskers in there, even so, you know, Hero

895
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: could be huge, and I don't think he's gonna be

896
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: afraid of the moment. We've seen him in the conference

897
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: finals go for thirty seven. I think that could He

898
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: could be due for one of those again here in

899
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: the finals and everybody's going crazy. Yeah. Who Sports had

900
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: him on the poster for this game for crying out loud.

901
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: You know it was Lebron and ad versus Jimmy and

902
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: Tyler hero Man disrespective band there. But it is special

903
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: and he could obviously change a game. He could even

904
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: just change a half in a quarter with that guy

905
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: when he catches fire. And and it's not just three

906
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: point shooter. He's got some handle, he's not afraid to

907
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: go inside. He's got a little playmaking. He needs to

908
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: be a part of that gang rebounding as we talked about,

909
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: especially when they're in the zone and they're playing a

910
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: couple bigs against the Lakers. So I'll go tell the Hero,

911
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: but you could talk me into literally any of you guys,

912
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: I like, outside of the Stars, give me Druggie, you know,

913
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: like give me the like you guys, said Agodala, crowded.

914
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: I think Derek Jones Junior might get dusted off and

915
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: thrown out there in this series again for zone reasons.

916
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: He's lengthy, he's played Lebron before too, just being super

917
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: super athletic, So we will see. Let's move over to

918
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: the Lakers though, X factor Lee, why are you going

919
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: to start on this one? Who you got?

920
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Well, you guys kind of talked about it a little

921
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: bit there with Dwight Howard, and I think he was

922
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: very good in the last two games for the Lakers,

923
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: coming into that starting lineup, just basically throwing his body

924
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: on the offensive end and then defensively getting in Nikolay

925
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Yokich's face. And I think, if you're Frank Vogel, why

926
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't you start him in this series and have him

927
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: do the same sort of job against bam Adebayo just

928
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: getting his face. He's a big, strong, athletic guy that's

929
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna make it tough. He's got six foul out there

930
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: he can use.

931
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't really.

932
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: See Javal McGee getting going back into the starting lineup,

933
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: considering what we saw from Dwight. He played good minutes,

934
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: He kept his behavior in his composure mostly. I mean,

935
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: he's always he's always walking that fine line. But I

936
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: think Dwight has earned at least that opportunity to start.

937
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: And if you're Bam and you see Dwight, you're like, ah,

938
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: this is going to be a bit of a tough

939
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: start because he's going to be in your face. He's

940
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: going to be getting under your skin and bumping around.

941
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: But if you see Javo, you think, okay, well I

942
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: can probably get a few baskets here.

943
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: So Dwight, if he.

944
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: Can sort of keep the car in the lane and

945
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: keep himself on the right track here, then he certainly

946
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: shapes up to be a very very important player here

947
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: for the Lakers, because, as we've seen, if he can

948
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: get Bam in foul trouble and get him off the court,

949
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: that's a huge advantage to the Lakers. And if he

950
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: can just contest those shots, keep him off the boards,

951
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's just going to make Bam have to

952
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: work so much harder. And then on the defensive end

953
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: for Bam as well, you know Dwight's going to be

954
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: in there trying to get those offensive rebounds going up

955
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: for roups, trying to be a factor for the Lakers.

956
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: So you know, Dwight, he's you know, time, well, not

957
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: a year ago. But over a year ago when it

958
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: was like, man, is he going to go back to

959
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: the Lakers, Like what can he do? Can he keep

960
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: him behave himself? Well, you've shown that he actually did

961
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: adapt to that role as a as a role play

962
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: coming off the bench, and he played it very well

963
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: for most of the season. And now he's so close

964
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: to a championship, he wants to be able to continue

965
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: to do that and show that to his team. So

966
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: I think he has potentially a very big role to

967
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: play in this series.

968
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: Okay, who's he going to be? Trash talking Lee? That's

969
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: the real question.

970
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: There's nobody out there that has a comic book nickname unfortunately.

971
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: Right, he might hate michelob Ultra or something like that.

972
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: Jim Coffee. Maybe he doesn't drink coffee from you.

973
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be something like that. It'll be interesting

974
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: to see Dwight just out there. John Schuman's got the

975
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: stat he's been the fouliest guy in the entire bubble.

976
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: Jimmy's gonna have some pump fakes ready for him. Let's

977
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: just say that Dwight's gonna be throwing his body around.

978
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: We'll see if he sticks.

979
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: Around, all right, Who do you got tasks Lakers X factor.

980
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: Well, I never would have thought I'd picked this man,

981
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: But Kavious Caldwell Pope. He has been the most consistent

982
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: player behind Lebron and Ad Recently, he's had an up

983
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: and down existence in the NBA. He was a Detroit

984
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: Piston for a long time. People got very high on

985
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: his potential. Then he went to the Lakers and people

986
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: got very low on him, that he was overpaid, And

987
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 3: now he's come back to the right evaluation. I believe

988
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 3: he's just solid out there. We all were pondering throughout

989
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: the season, is Danny Green ever going to be on

990
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: the bench for this team? Is he ever gonna sit

991
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: because they just don't have a lot of consistent guys. Well,

992
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: Green went to the bench because he wasn't hot. I

993
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 3: thought Kyle Kuzma would be a consistent number three guy

994
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: after watching him early in the bubble. He went to

995
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: the bench because he wasn't that hot. But Kentavious Caldwell

996
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 3: Pope a great three point shooter in this last series,

997
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: playing thirty minutes a game, and I think he is

998
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: the most likely to hit a big three out of

999
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: all those role players. And he's most likely to play

1000
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: the most solid defense against a Heat team that's got

1001
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: a billion guards that can score twenty points. I think

1002
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: they're going to rely on him a ton, and so

1003
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: I think he'll be out there. The question is will

1004
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: KCP be able to continue to be clutch CP. I'm

1005
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent positive on that, but he's got

1006
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: the potential. He did some great things in the Western

1007
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: Conference Final, catching balls at his ankles from Rondo and

1008
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: throwing up chucks that went down. He had a great

1009
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 3: percentage played solid d So I think CACP is another

1010
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: one of the guys that Lebron has brought over. As

1011
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: Lebron said, I brought Anthony Davis over, Rondo said Lebron

1012
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: brought me over, and now KCP definitely brought over from Lebron.

1013
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: Lebron definitely got that contract from Clutch Sports. Kudos to

1014
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: Lebron for that, but now he's paying off. But because

1015
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: he's literally more consistent than Danny Green right now, or

1016
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: Kyle Kuzma or Rondo or even Alex Caruso. So I'll

1017
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: go with KCP.

1018
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he'll probably be matched up on drugage, i'd

1019
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: assume for a good chunk of this and you're right, Tass.

1020
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: He's a wicked catch and shoot three point shooter as well,

1021
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: which is against a zone. I mean, you're gonna get

1022
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: again have those looks and be able to step into

1023
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: them and just off the pass again when you got

1024
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: Lebron as your teammate in Rondo. So yeah, he's huge.

1025
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: That's a that's a good one for the Lakers who

1026
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: you got Trey Well.

1027
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: First of all, I want to give some kudos to

1028
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 4: Ragen Brownie in the YouTube chat who commented, Dwight's gonna

1029
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: be like you want to be the hero. I'm the

1030
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: villain that was sitting right there, got in just before

1031
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: John Schuman did with the exact same joke unfortunately for him.

1032
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: And hey, bam is a superhero comic book sound effect.

1033
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 4: So Dwight he could be the X factor. I'm now

1034
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: thinking he is the X factor. It's like it's like

1035
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 4: the Unbreakable Universe for those m Night Shamalan fans out

1036
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: there where everything is somehow a comic book. I guess

1037
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: Dwight Howard has cracked the code. Uh, But for me,

1038
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: the X factor is to be Rondo. He was great

1039
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: in the Western Conference finals and he's instrumental to the

1040
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: Lakers pushing the pace. They're such a good transition team,

1041
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 4: and Rondo is one of the factors for that because

1042
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: he can get Lebron some easy baskets and he also

1043
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: gets easy three point looks for KCP, Danny Green, Caruso,

1044
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 4: all the guys he plays alongside of that you don't

1045
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: necessarily want handling the ball, but are okay if they're

1046
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: hitting the shots. We'll see how he does against the zone.

1047
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: He can make a three point shot. He still doesn't

1048
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: necessarily want to shoot him, but he's got a great

1049
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 4: basketball IQ to carve things up with his passing as well.

1050
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: But perhaps the zone throws him off. That being said,

1051
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: he's been in the NBA for one hundred years. He's

1052
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: probably seen a lot of zones and figures out how

1053
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: to attack him. But Rondo was an X factor against

1054
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: the Nuggets, and I assume he'll be the same against

1055
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 4: the Heat.

1056
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with uh. I can't believe I'm

1057
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: gonna say this. I'll preface this by saying I do

1058
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: not think he's all that good, and I think he's

1059
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: terribly overrated. And I'm talking about Kyle Kuzma will he

1060
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: be a Kyle though or a Carl That's what it

1061
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: comes down. But because I will say this, Kuzma's game

1062
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: in theory could be a really good counter to his

1063
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: own defense. He will move off the ball, and you

1064
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: know there's seams in the defense of his own defense

1065
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: for some cuts, some timely cuts, so you can you

1066
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: can find some space. And then as I talked about

1067
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: the short corner, is there there are open threes in

1068
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: the corner, usually against his own defense and really against

1069
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: the heat's own defense because it is a hero placed

1070
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: in the corner there or you know, a Dragicic or

1071
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: a Duncan Robinson, like you're gonna get looks. And again,

1072
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: when Lebron's the quarterback, he's gonna throw it to you

1073
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: right on the money there. So Kuzma's got a hit

1074
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: shots and he's overrated because he's a Laker. I mean,

1075
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: if Kyle Kuzma played for the Hornets and scored eighteen

1076
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: points per game, like, no one would give a damn,

1077
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: No one would care at all. But it's because he's

1078
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: in LA. He's got a cool look, he's got a

1079
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: social media presence. You know, people think a lot of

1080
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Lakers fans think he's better than he maybe is, and

1081
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: he's struggled. He has not played all that well here.

1082
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: But I think he could have a little you know,

1083
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: unlocking here against his own defense because in theory that

1084
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: what he does could work well against his own defense.

1085
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: But he's got a hit shots is what he's going

1086
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: to come down to, And maybe he does for a

1087
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: game or two, and then people will be saying, Kyle

1088
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: Kuzma for finals MVP. I can see it now. If

1089
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: he has one or two head games, I can see

1090
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: it now. All right, So let's start wrapping this up

1091
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: here with some predictions where before we get to our

1092
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: actual like who wins this thing? How many games? Predictions?

1093
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: I thought we could do some like silly or random

1094
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: or specific predictions JD. I want to get you in

1095
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: on the mix as well. But who wants to get

1096
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: us started with this? You know, who has a really

1097
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: strong silly or random prediction they want to throw out

1098
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: for this finals?

1099
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: I've got one. I think we're gonna see someone hit

1100
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: ten threes in a game. Might be Tyler Hero, maybe

1101
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Duncan Rombinson.

1102
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: Ten wait, Curry as the record, right? What nine?

1103
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: I think he hit in a finals game, This dad

1104
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: of the bubble, everyone shooting him so well, Danny Green.

1105
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Danny Green just has it in one game that's

1106
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: only hits the entire series, but he hits ten.

1107
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: In one game.

1108
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: I do think we're gonna get see some crazy stuff

1109
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: down this.

1110
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: I you wanted a crazy prediction. This For the only

1111
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: reason I pushed back is I have in my notes

1112
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: somebody hits eight threes. I got really specifically, I'm not

1113
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: I can't go. I can't go with someone tying or

1114
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: beating Curry with. Didn't you want crazy? I mean you know,

1115
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: I no, I didn't ask for crazy. I said silly,

1116
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: random or very specific, crazy, silly and specific. Yeah. Okay, okay,

1117
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: So somebody hits ten threes. And if you had to

1118
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: pick who you're saying what Danny Green.

1119
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying Tyler.

1120
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm going with Tyler time time, Tyler ten times Tyler. Okay, Trey,

1121
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: what do you got for a weird prediction? Six weggies?

1122
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna get a weggie per game? Wow? I heard fifty.

1123
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's been a long time since we've seen

1124
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: a weggie. To be honest, my actual stupid, silly prediction

1125
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: is that Lebron is going to come out with his

1126
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: own fake business to rival Big Face Coffee because Jimmy

1127
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: Butler has been the social media star of the bubble

1128
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: with Big Face Coffee. You know, he's somehow turned it

1129
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: into a real brand. He's got the Lululemon stuff going on.

1130
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 4: Now there's Little Face Coffee as well. Lebron can't like that,

1131
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: so he's gonna have something during the finals that reminds

1132
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 4: us that Lebron likes to build camaraderie with his teammates.

1133
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: He likes having fun too. I don't know what it's

1134
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 4: gonna be. Maybe King's Croissants, something like that. I don't

1135
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: know if he he knows all the folding necessary for

1136
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: the lamination of a croissant, but it sounds good.

1137
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 2: And as I've talked about before, a croissant should cost

1138
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: twenty dollars. Yeah, very delicate, takes so long, the amount

1139
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: of work that goes into it, it's an unbelievable value

1140
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: what we pay for croissants. They've got it all wrong.

1141
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: It should be ten times more. Okay, what do you

1142
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: got to ask? What's your prediction here? Weird prediction?

1143
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 3: Well, the Heat's Derek Jones Junior. He's gonna play. Okay,

1144
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: there's gonna be somebody's getting gets in foul trouble, and

1145
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: Derek Jones Junior is going to get to the top

1146
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: of the zone. He's going to use those long arms,

1147
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: and the former slam Dunk champion is going to get

1148
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: a deflection. He's gonna turn it the other way. He's

1149
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: gonna have a huge jam m and then the nickname

1150
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 3: Derek Zones is gonna take off. It's going, Yeah, that's

1151
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: I think that's a John Hollinger All this John Schuman love.

1152
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: Enough of that, Let's get some John Hollinger love. I

1153
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: think that's a John Hollinger original. And maybe Dwight Howard

1154
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: will talk trash to Derek Zones because I'm pretty sure

1155
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: that Dwight Howard watched Game of Zones the Bleacher Report

1156
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: animated series, so he'll start calling him, Derek, what are

1157
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: you gonna do, Derek Zones? You know, I'll take care

1158
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: of you, Derek Zones. There there could be the superhero

1159
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: the superhero line. I'm sure Dwight misses Game of Zones

1160
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: and it was probably pissed that he never featured in it.

1161
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 3: I'm guessing I'm guessing never featured it.

1162
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, it would be shocked. I feel like

1163
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 2: everybody made a cameo in Game of Zones. The thing

1164
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: went on for like five seasons, didn't it.

1165
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: Dwight, it's been Dwight was a Charlotte Hornet and Atlanta

1166
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: Hawk five years ago, so I don't know.

1167
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: True, but he likes to fart.

1168
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: Maybe it was animated, but was it?

1169
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1170
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: Maybe? All right? JD, what's your weird prediction for the finals?

1171
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: My weird prediction is you may remember back during Rockets Thunder,

1172
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 5: we saw a bunch of tweets running around or circling

1173
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 5: around with a butt in the virtual screen.

1174
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah.

1175
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 5: I don't think it actually made the broadcast, but I

1176
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 5: predict that we will be seeing a butt or something

1177
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 5: mildly inappropriate that's actually going to make the broadcast. And

1178
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 5: this is why there's no consequences anymore, right, I mean,

1179
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 5: what are they going to do? Right? You're going to

1180
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: get banned for life from the virtual screen?

1181
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean, who cares?

1182
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 5: And also I would encourage people to moon the to

1183
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 5: moon the their cameras because we need to burn that bridge,

1184
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 5: like you know, like let's just get rid of it.

1185
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 5: I think we all will agree that the bubble has

1186
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 5: been an amazing success. We think think back to when

1187
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 5: they first introduced this idea. We we were like not

1188
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: even sure that we were going to make it to

1189
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: the finals, and here we are. Everything has been awesome

1190
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 5: except for that virtual The virtual fans like, I hate it.

1191
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 5: So you know, let's see some butts on that screen, see.

1192
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 6: Some virtual right, why not make the director work, you know,

1193
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 6: like you got to make sure that they that they're

1194
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 6: they're paying attention right right.

1195
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 5: Right right?

1196
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 2: I mean you did you think about showing your ass

1197
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: when you made a virtual appearance the other last last series.

1198
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: No, but I may be in for one of the

1199
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: finals games as well, so maybe I'll reconsider. Yeah, Teddy,

1200
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: what did you come on over? Maybe you can show

1201
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: your butt?

1202
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: Why don't you show your Lee? Why don't you show

1203
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: your fun dick?

1204
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1205
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: Great as if somebody was receiving a wedgie, so we

1206
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: saw like.

1207
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: A butt with Aggie.

1208
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and I say we count that if that happened.

1209
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: That's a great prediction. I only have like two little

1210
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: quickies here, and I think Lee, you started this whole

1211
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: thing because I saw that people running with this the

1212
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: last couple of days, this idea that Dion Waiters he

1213
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: can't lose, he can't lose, He's guaranteed a championship ring

1214
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: regardless of the finals outcome because he was on the Heat.

1215
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: Now he's on the Lakers, and you know he's gonna

1216
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: get a ring. That's not true though, That is not

1217
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: true at all, because if the Heat were to win

1218
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: this thing and pull this off, it's up to the

1219
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: team to decide whether or not they want to give

1220
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: the guy a ring. There's no freaking way that the

1221
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: Heat I think would give Deon Waiters a ring after

1222
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: the after how he left that team unceremoniously, so like

1223
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: the Raptors didn't give valancoutas ring. So I just want

1224
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: to push back on that. I think Waiters doesn't get one.

1225
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: It's up to each franchise to decide how to do it.

1226
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Because Andy Verjel apparently rejected going from the Warriors, but I.

1227
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: Don't think Waiders would reject one. I think take that,

1228
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: but I just don't think they would offer him one.

1229
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not sure what the Heat have done in

1230
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: the past, but I'm sure at some point they've tried

1231
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: it away going They've gone on to win the championship,

1232
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: and I think they probably, excuse me, I think they

1233
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: probably did offer the player a ring. So that's what

1234
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: I think I have. No, I don't know if that's

1235
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: true or not, but.

1236
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: So you think if the Heat win a title, they

1237
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: will offered waiters a ring.

1238
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm just saying in the past, I think

1239
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: that's not it.

1240
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: This year a different circumstance. I'm talking about the particular

1241
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: player here. I think that's the important part.

1242
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: Anyway, Well, there is that story about stan Van Gundhi

1243
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: when he was relieved of his duties before the two

1244
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: thousand and six finals and pat Riley coached them to

1245
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: a championship. They offered him a ring afterwards and he said, Noah,

1246
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: thanks right, don't well, don't want that. You can keep that.

1247
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Hey, they're all about Heat culture. Maybe what if you're

1248
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: there and you're a part of that squad. I guess

1249
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: maybe they will offer him one. But they're retired Michael

1250
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: Jordan's number. That's true, Jay's getting a ring this year.

1251
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: That's number seven, number seven.

1252
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: It's gonna be really tough for Lebron. Lebron not only

1253
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: has to win four. Here, he's got to prevent Michael

1254
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Jordan from winning his seventh. My weird prediction, I don't

1255
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: know how it's going to come about, obviously, I don't

1256
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: know which team yet. Is it going to be a

1257
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: Lakers player or a Heat player. But there's gonna be

1258
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: some joke guys at the end of this thing when

1259
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: the confetti falls and they're handing over the lob, like

1260
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: some joke about are you going to Disney World and

1261
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: it's like, hell, no, that's the last place I want

1262
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: to go, or something like I'm sure it's hell not

1263
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: going to disney World. Get me the hell away from

1264
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: disney World. There'll be some joke of like the classic

1265
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: cliche of winning a title and like, hey, what are

1266
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: you doing now? We're going to disney World. That's the

1267
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: last place these guys want to go. I assume after

1268
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: winning this thing they want to get out of there.

1269
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: So there'll be some sort of little little joke made,

1270
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: probably on Mike with you know whoever it is who

1271
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: would be doing it, who'd be out there, Rachel Nichols

1272
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: or something like that. That's my weird prediction. But let's

1273
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: get to the real, real predictions. Here Jad, you'll get

1274
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: it started. NBA Finals Pick and prediction. Who do you like?

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Speaker 2: How many games?

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Speaker 5: Well, this is a is this our fifteenth year, fifteenth season.

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Speaker 5: I think that we've been covering.

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Speaker 2: The fifteenth finals that we'll have made pets. That sounds right.

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Speaker 5: So this is the first time that I'm not rooting

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Speaker 5: for a sweep, right, I mean, every year I've just

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Speaker 5: I didn't care. I just wanted it done right. This year,

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Speaker 5: you know what, it's it's a pretty light lift.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: I roll out of bed and here I am.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, hey, let's go seven.

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Speaker 5: Let's I want this bubble because again it was such

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Speaker 5: a huge success, I think, and let's make it exciting

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Speaker 5: and let let's have it.

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Speaker 3: Go to seven.

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Speaker 5: So so I'm gonna pick the Heat in seven, just

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Speaker 5: simply because I shouldn't like disrespect Lebron like this. But

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Speaker 5: I'm rooting for the guys on the Heat. I think

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Speaker 5: they're like more likable team. Uh So that's who I

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Speaker 5: want to root for. If I pick the Lakers, which

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Speaker 5: is probably the smarter pick, I'm gonna have to be

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Speaker 5: rooting against the Heat and I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: I want to root for the for the Heat.

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Speaker 2: So Heat in seven. Okay, we're gonna start here task

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Speaker 2: while you go next? What do you got?

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Speaker 3: I love it, JD. I'm totally with you. I think

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Speaker 3: this will be a nice long series. And it's just

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Speaker 3: that unprecedented factor of guys being able to put just

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Speaker 3: the play to their potential, have a twenty, have a

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Speaker 3: twenty five, have a thirty point game off the bench

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Speaker 3: like a Tyler hero. I think this is the year

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Speaker 3: where you could see an upset. So why the heck

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Speaker 3: not pick this Miami Heat team with role players you know,

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Speaker 3: don't feel the pressure of an opposing fan base. The

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Speaker 3: Heat are desperately going to need their depth up and

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Speaker 3: down that roster. They got to get Game one, and

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Speaker 3: I believe they can, and there's a heck of a

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Speaker 3: lot on bam at Obio's shoulders. But I'm going with

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Speaker 3: the Heat culture. I'm going with enough experience. Besides, they're

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Speaker 3: starting five that has zero and I'm going with the Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the vengeful factor of pat Riley getting his guys and

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Speaker 3: prodding his guys, and I think they'll get it done.

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Speaker 3: Let's go seven. Let's go Heat inside.

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Speaker 2: We got two Heat and sevens. Let's go to TK

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Speaker 2: shaking his head, so I think he's leaning the other way.

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Speaker 2: What do you got? This just feels dumb.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm caught between my brain and my heart. I'm

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Speaker 4: feeling exactly like JD and Task.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: My brain tells me the Lakers are gonna win. They've

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Speaker 4: got the two best players. Superstars are what matters. But

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Speaker 4: in this house we stand Jimmy. Cars don't have rear

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Speaker 4: view mirrors. The reason I'm downstairs recording now is because

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Speaker 4: we put in a giant fish tank upstairs. There's nowhere

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Speaker 4: to sit. I'm going heat in six just because I

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Speaker 4: want to be rooting for Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Pick against him three straight series and I haven't pull

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Speaker 4: it off every single time. This is for twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: This is for twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Let's dog Jenny. Oh my goodness. All right, we got

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Speaker 2: three guys here. The Lakers are heavy favorit, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in Vegas, a lot bigger than I thought there would be.

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Speaker 2: But we got two hitting seven's, Tregos hitting six. Lee,

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Speaker 2: were you leaning, man.

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Speaker 1: Ah man? I thought I was going to be on

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Speaker 1: an island. I thought the logic the brain clearly says

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Speaker 1: go to the Lakers here because it's Lebron you. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to see Lebron go three and seven in

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Speaker 1: the finals. We want to see Hi win his third

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Speaker 1: championship for a different franchise. But I don't want feel good.

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Speaker 1: I said at the start of the show, I won crazy.

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Speaker 1: Nothing would be crazy that if the Miami Heat pulled

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Speaker 1: this after everything that's gone on with Jimmy Butler and

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Speaker 1: the Heat this season and now down in the bubble, surely,

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Speaker 1: surely it's a lot more fun to at least cheer

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Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat. And I've also realized these predictions

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Speaker 1: don't mean anything anyway. I'm going for the Heat because

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Speaker 1: I want the Heat to win. I feel bad because

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Speaker 1: I want Lebron to get another championship.

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Speaker 2: But not this year.

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Speaker 1: I want the Miami Heat. I'm going with the underdogs.

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Speaker 1: I picked the Heat in every series so far. They

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Speaker 1: won in four games. I won in five games, they

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Speaker 1: won in six games, so it makes logical sense they

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Speaker 1: gonna win in seven games here. I've got a man

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Speaker 1: crush on Tyler here, which is embarrassing to four years.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty years. It's nearly illegal.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't, but it's just so much more fun cheering

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Speaker 1: for the guys you want to win. I'm gown for

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Speaker 1: the Heat in seven.

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Speaker 2: Will they win in in seven? Probably not? But who cares?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys are drunk? Oh my god? I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for it. Okay, look, I am taking the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: I will be the lone guy on this podcast to

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Speaker 2: take the Lakers. Go ahead and booby, but I am excited.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you guys that it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: long series. I do not think this is by no

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Speaker 2: means gonna be a Lakers sweep or even five. I

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Speaker 2: think it goes six or seven. I talked about in

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Speaker 2: the last series when the Lakers played the Nuggets. The

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Speaker 2: Lakers were the big brother to Denver. You could just

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Speaker 2: see it. They were the bullies. They were the one

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Speaker 2: that could push them around. You know, just things went

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Speaker 2: their way because they were the older brother the Heat.

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Speaker 2: To me, to keep up this weird analogy, they're like

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Speaker 2: the crazy cousin that shows up every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna be bullied because that crazy cousin that

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Speaker 2: lives in Sarnia that you haven't seen in two years

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Speaker 2: and they show up every once a while. They've seen

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Speaker 2: some things, They've done some things. At an early age,

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Speaker 2: they stolen a car already, you know it took it

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Speaker 2: across the border. They became a Carnie for a summer.

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Speaker 2: What you're thirteen years old? How are you a Carney.

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Speaker 2: They're not afraid, right, They're not gonna be bullied. So

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Speaker 2: it's this weird dynamic that I'm super excited about. But

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Speaker 2: there's no way I am gonna pick against the team

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Speaker 2: with not only the best player, but then the second

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Speaker 2: best player in Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis I still think

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Speaker 2: could steal or win a finals MVP in this. I

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Speaker 2: think he could see some special numbers, So I think

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Speaker 2: that's in play. I will go Lakers, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'll go Lakers in seven because this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: an awesome, awesome battle between these two teams. And I'm

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Speaker 2: really excited. As I talked about as on our last podcast.

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Speaker 2: I love that it is the Lakers and Heat here,

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Speaker 2: and I love that all these weird storylines as we

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Speaker 2: started this one, all this intertwining like we don't really

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Speaker 2: talked about, like just Spolstra know the secret to slowing

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Speaker 2: Lebron or getting in his head like who really knows?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll go. I'll go Lakers in seven. That

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Speaker 2: crazy cousin. Man, it is a wild call. Carney oh Man,

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Speaker 2: the Sarnia Carney Many. I'm telling you they smoke. They've

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Speaker 2: been smoking for years already. They did buying your packs.

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Speaker 2: The players there, Lee, So we will see. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: I got Lakers in seven. We got a lot of heat,

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Speaker 2: and seven we got a heat and six let's hear

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Speaker 2: from you guys. Tweet at us at No dunks, Inc.

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Speaker 2: Break it down. Why are you picking a team and

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Speaker 2: why and how many games? Stuff like that. Let us

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Speaker 2: know in the YouTube chats as well. That was a

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Speaker 2: fun one. Hope you enjoyed that. Like I said, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk Doc Rivers in the clips parting ways tomorrow. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into Victor olidepo rumors and we'll answer a bunch

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Speaker 2: of your questions when we hit the beach. So email

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Speaker 2: them in No dunks at the Athletic dot com or

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Speaker 2: tweet them in at No dunks Inc. Can't wait. Game

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Speaker 2: one NBA Finals tips Wednesday, and we'll be back of

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Speaker 2: course on Thursday morning to recap what should be a

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Speaker 2: very exciting finals. Clipper Bros. You heard it here first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great time. Turn up you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us and remember Lakers in three.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people, you could.

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Speaker 5: Stay boom every day, my daddy happy, every minute.

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Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the fun of waiting for.

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Speaker 3: It's happened already. It's gonna be Grevy