1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: And welcome to episode number nine of Bird Noises in 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons podcast about football and mostly everything else, and 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: today super excited to be joined by a former falcon 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: who had as a falcon more receiving yards as a 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: falcon's tight end than Tony Gonzalez and oh is tied 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: with Tony g for the most touchdown receptions as a falcon, 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: the Great Algie Crumpler, Algie, Welcome to Bird Noises. Happy 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: to have you here, man, I appreciate it. I was 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: digging that up today and those are regular season stats, 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: not playoff but pretty good. You're you're, you're right up there. 11 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I enjoyed my time here. Hopefully I can stay up 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: there for maybe one or two more years. But that 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: guy named Austin Hooper, he's pretty good. He's getting better 14 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: every year. Yeah. Um. So most people do a double 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: take when they hear the hear the name bird Noises, 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: and so I just ask it. We've done, you know, 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: eight of these. Now let's goin to ask you what 18 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: do you what do you think of the name bird Noises? 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: Some time some people catches him off. Card I like it, okay, 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm cool with it, all right, cool, all right, good. 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: That's that's that's a pretty good endorsement. Um. All right, 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: So since we're talking about names, you know where we're going, 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: we start off with your name before we get into 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: any of this stuff. I just want to ask you 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: about your name because it's so different, okay, so unique, 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: And let me know if I've got it right. Algernon 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Darius Crumpler, Algren Alder. Yes see, I butchered it. Okay, 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: West Durham never butchered it. Really. First time I called 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown, he called me by my government name, oh, 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: alger Note every time, every time. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah, 31 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: I've had a Durham call all of my game from college, 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Woody Durham and uh, that's right, the Great Wood all 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: of my falcon years, West Durham. So the Durham family 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: has been good to me. Yeah. I lived in Fayetteville. 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: This isn't about me, but I did live in Fayetville 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: worked at the Fayeteville Observer, so I got indoctrinate to Carolina, 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: all things Carolina, Duke Wake East Carolina. So yeah, I 38 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: appreciate when you bring up the name Woody Durham. Um, 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: So about your name, your dad Carlister. Yep, okay, I 40 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: got that right, former Buffalo Bill Carlister camp for a 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: lot of years, but never quite on a roster. But okay. 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Um made his impact in college high school, three state championships. 43 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: What Wilson Fike at the time of all time leading 44 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: Russia at East Carolina and then bounced around a little bit, 45 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: but kind of set the foundation for our family. Yeah, 46 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: playing professionally. Well, his favorite book apparently, and that correct 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong was Flowers for Algernon. Yeah, yeah, 48 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: him and my mom they actually put names in a 49 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: hat and that was the only name on both of 50 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: those lists. Oh yeah, Algernon. So so no, no Matt 51 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: on both of those lists. No John on both of 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: those lists. Nope, Brian as my younger brother, is named 53 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: on both of those lists. I would love to see 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: the other nine names on that list. But Algernon is 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: the name that came out. Yeah, No, one could quite 56 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: get it right, so Algae it became okay, all right, 57 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: so I was gonna We're gonna go there. So did 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: you ever read the science fiction short story I did 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Kiss That? Yeah? I did read it, Um a 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: few times. My kids have read the book. I've seen 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: the adaptation Charlie the movie. That's right, there's been like 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: twelve a lot of yeah, yeah, but that is my name, Algernon. 63 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this. Did uh when 64 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: did people start calling you algae? Algae? Um? I don't 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: even remember my mom calling me Algernon. It's always been algae, okay, 66 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: So my mom never called me by. I used to 67 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: get picked on because you know, as you get older, 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's no science in elementary school. You get 69 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: it in middle school and everybody's learning about algae stuff 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: on the water. And so I used to get picked 71 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: on and kids being kids. I remember crying to my 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: mom saying, hey, you need to call me by my 73 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: real name, Algernon. And she did it from maybe a day, 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: maybe a day. But it's it's always been, always been 75 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: been algae. Not even when she was mad. She didn't 76 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: say Algernon, Darius, get down here, nah, okay, And our 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: family was all about a look oh and that was it. 78 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: That was it. It looks a little more frightening, um 79 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: can be. So I was gonna ask you too, you 80 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: brought it up? I mean, were you a big kid 81 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: growing up? Because I was I was a big kid, um, 82 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Like you know, we're talking about elementary school, middle school. 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I was a big kid. I wasn't able to play 84 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: pop Warner because I was I didn't I didn't make 85 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the weight limit. So I was a bigger kid, um, 86 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: and they still still kind of made algae jokes. Yeah, yeah, 87 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean my parents wouldn't let me. I 88 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: got in trouble so many times for beating up my 89 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: little brother that I know. I couldn't beat anybody elseide 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Carlist Brian, my younger brother. But yeah, my older brother 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to beat me up. But I always beat 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: my younger brother up. And then my younger brother used 93 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to hit me all the time and never get in trouble. 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: But if I hit him one time, I always got 95 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: in trouble. So was this in Greenville or before he 96 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: moved to Welmington. By the time I got to Womanton, 97 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: I had chiseled up a little bit, so yeah, no 98 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: one was messing with me there. I was gonna say. 99 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just gonna go out on a 100 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: limit and guess that you were kind of a big dude. 101 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: So I was a little chubbier growing up. And then 102 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I thinned out, and then I retired and got a 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: lot more chubby. Now I'm trying to thin back up, hey, 104 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: aren't we all? Um? All right? So you you were 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: born in Greenville, Yes, and then moved to the coast 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: Coastal area, right, yes? Um? And you went to New 107 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: Hanover High School. Yep. Um big track and football star 108 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: correct track yep. Four state titles, throwing the shot button 109 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: discus in high school. Yeah, um, football all the time. 110 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I wrestled my freshman year. I played at one eighty nine. Okay, yeah, 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: I was one eighty nine my freshman year, um, and 112 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: I had to cut about twenty pounds to make that, 113 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: and then um on everything. The only reason I wrestled 114 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I got cut from the basketball team, and they were 115 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: in the same season six two sixty one, maybe just 116 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I got cut from the basketball team. So I went 117 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: to wrestle, and I was about two ten, and then 118 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I got down to one eighty nine because we had 119 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: a heavy weight that I was never gonna beat. Really, 120 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: so I learned to cut weight and I got name. No, 121 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: but I cut weight and I got down. I wrestled. 122 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I was okay, it wasn't great, but I was okay. 123 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: And then we moved to Wilmington my sophomore year, and 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: then I played basketball my junior and senior year. But 125 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: I did track my sophomore year because it was during 126 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the second semester that I was able to I never 127 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: picked up a discuss before my life, and I'm want 128 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: a state championship that year. Yeah, I was reading about 129 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: all these records you had in track. You're obviously pretty 130 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: good football player. But where did you ever think about 131 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: a career in track or pursuing track. I mean you 132 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: had to have been recruited, yes, No, I mean I 133 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: threw an ACC championship for shot putt and was able 134 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: to place in the top three, so we were able 135 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: to get points for our team in North Carolina. But 136 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: in terms of I was good in North Carolina but 137 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: not great nationally. Okay, So it would have it would 138 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: have taken a lot more, you know, dedication. But my 139 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: love was football. I love was basketball actually, okay, but 140 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: there are no six two power forwards in the NBA, 141 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: so I gravitated towards football and loved watching my brother 142 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: play in college. I used to sell peanuts and drinks 143 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: in the stands while my brother was playing where at 144 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: East East Carolina University. Yeah, I remember, God, he dropped 145 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: the ball on the guy yelled not threw some peanuts 146 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: and hit him in the back of the head. I 147 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: hope the statute of limitations is over. But but I 148 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't want him picking up my brother. He uh. He 149 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: ended up playing in the NFL. Yes, he played five 150 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: years for Seattle Seahawks, in one year under Denny Green 151 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: when the Minnesota Vikings okay, and then he retired. I 152 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: was hope. We were hoping to be able to play together, 153 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: but there was a year between his retirement and me 154 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: coming into the National Football League, so we weren't able 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: to play together. But he played six full years UM 156 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: at New Hanover. He loved the team and tackles averaged 157 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: eleven per game. He played linebacker, played every position, step 158 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: for quarterback. Did you play every position for quarterback? Oh, 159 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: my goodness, pretty much every position? So they just was 160 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: that because the coach didn't know where to put your 161 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: or what where if you could have just picked Did 162 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: you like him more than anything? Um? I was recruited 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: for college to be a defensive player. When Mac Brown 164 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: recruited me, who was back at North Carolina. The first time. 165 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: So glad yep, who was back at North Carolina Mac Brown. 166 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: When he recruited me, he asked what would get the edge, 167 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: And I say, you know, I really want to play offense. 168 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Every school was recruited me to play defense. And I 169 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: went to their camp and we did the seven on 170 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: sevens and you know, we wanted like every game. Little 171 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: did I know he stacked the team. Everybody on that 172 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: team was guys that he was recruiting. But I didn't 173 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: know that. As a seventeen year old kid back then, 174 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know how it worked. I just knew we 175 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: were good as a team. We didn't even know each other. 176 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: Everybody knows each other now because of social media. Back then, 177 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was if you didn't read the local 178 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: paper or didn't stay up and watch the local news, 179 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: you didn't know who anybody was interesting. So but that's 180 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: how he got to edge at North Carolina, and I 181 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: went there and enjoyed my time in college and was 182 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: drafted here in Atlanta. Yeah, mac Brown, he is Uh, 183 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: it's it's good to see him back us. He was 184 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: great on TV. Oh yeah, I mean he was one 185 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: of my favorites and uh, you know, a lot of 186 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: coaches come in try the TV thing. He was really good. 187 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: What I learned about coaches is coaches coach man. I mean, 188 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: that's it's just what they do. Um. Just walking in 189 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: up here with you today seeing some of the coaches, 190 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Greg Napp told him I give him a shout out 191 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: on bird noises coach, coach Knapp, the quarterback coach, coach Quinn. 192 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: I did see DQ. But you know, Nat was here 193 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: when I was here for three of my really good 194 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: years here, and and you know that's just he's been 195 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot of places. He's back here, he's happy here. 196 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: It's just coaches, this coach, you know, that's what they 197 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: do is they get up every day and just want 198 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: to creating bold young men and make them better. And 199 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: and uh, it's good to see. That was cool timing. 200 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: Actually the other man, Ryan playing, Well, yeah, that was 201 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: cool timing. We you know, walk We're walking up the 202 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: top of the stairs in the headquarters here and right 203 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: down the hallway came Greg Nap just as you were 204 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: walking out. And uh, that's kind of cool. I'm kind 205 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: of glad to be tied it that way. Um, so others, 206 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: so other schools were pursuing you play defense other So 207 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: what other schools were you? Uh did you want to 208 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: go to Carolina the whole time? No, I mean my 209 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: dad does East Carolina Graduate. My my older brother was 210 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: at East Carolina Graduate and Pirates and uh the Pirates. Yeah, 211 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: and and um, all these schools were recruiting me hard, 212 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, but East Carolina at the time, I think 213 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: they just assumed that I was going to come. But 214 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was an impressionable young kid that was 215 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: getting all this attention from these other schools, you know, 216 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: South Carolina and Clemson at the time, and Clemson wasn't 217 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: as good as they are now. But um, just a 218 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of different schools and and I thought there may 219 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: be an opportunity to go to one of those schools. 220 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: But you know, when I got on campus at North 221 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Carolina and had a chance to get around coach Brown 222 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: and go through the recruiting process, it just became a 223 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: special place for me. So I'm glad I made that decision. Yeah, 224 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: he's a he's a terrific, terrific guy. Um so no track, 225 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you decide to stay home. Let's let's switch 226 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: gears for a second, all right. So you you majored 227 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: at UNC in journalism and mass communications. No. I was 228 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: a communications major, okay, but not journalism. I've read that 229 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: I started with communications thinking that that was going to 230 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: lead the journalism and mass communications. But journalism school was 231 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: pretty big, pretty hard to get into. I I just 232 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: stuck with in a jool Yeah. UM, journalism school special 233 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: at North Carolina. UM. It had been nice to get into, 234 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: but it'd been a little tough at the time. If 235 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: you hadn't played football, if you weren't playing football, if 236 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: you didn't have football, or you didn't think you were gonna, 237 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: um pursue it as a career, what would you have 238 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: wanted to do? What would do something in a service industry? UM? 239 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: Because I love helping people and not getting any credit. 240 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: So just something where I can kind of be around 241 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: people and help and and uh do something there. I 242 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what specific area of the service industry, 243 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: but I would have gravitated towards something in the service 244 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: industry had football not worked out. Interesting. UM. I always 245 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: like to ask athletes that if if they hadn't had sports, 246 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: if they they what they kind of envisioned themselves doing, 247 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: And the responses are always really really interesting. I needed sports, 248 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: so because I, um, if I got mad, add I 249 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: needed an outlet, you know. So sports was always something 250 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: that helped me. But I'm you know now, I'm so 251 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: so laid back. You know. I can sit back and 252 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: just you know, football is on every day, it seems, 253 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: so I can sit back and watch, you know, any 254 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: game I want to at any given point in time. 255 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Got a great routine for when the Falcons are on 256 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: the road. I'm at all the home games. When the 257 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: Falcons are here, I'm going to ask you about the Falcons. Tho. 258 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool, um interesting, So you know that's funny. 259 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Harry Douglas was on the podcast, the last podcast, and 260 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: he said the same thing. He needed an outlet. And 261 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: so Harry's a spark blug he is. Harry's got a 262 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: lot more energy than I do. We did the kickoff 263 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: event before the twenty eighteen season down in the Atlantic 264 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Station and this dude took over crowd, the microphone crowd, 265 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: five thousand people down in Atlantic Station and he was 266 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: sweating by the end of this. This thing, Harry is 267 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: is a spark ploy. I would have loved to have 268 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: played with Harry and it's amazing. We had to our 269 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: career mirrored each other, you know, both eighty three, both 270 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: start with the Falcons, both finished with Well, both played 271 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: with the Titans. So we've had very similar careers. Yeah, 272 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: he's an interesting, interesting dude, very colorful. Uh he was 273 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: making bird sounds. I'm not gonna do that. We're not 274 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna get one out of you. Nah, No, okay, not me. 275 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: Come on, Well, by the end of this podcast, we'll 276 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: get a bird sound out of you. Who do you? There? 277 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: You go? There you go, There we go, Trevor Lasso. 278 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Did you get that? Shout out the big boy? All right, 279 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: So let's talk about your NFL career. You you had 280 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: a pretty good career at Carolina and you end up 281 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: being man three picks out of the first round thirty five, right, 282 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: almost a first round pick. You blame that on Todd Heap, 283 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: by the way, the tight end tight end Baltimore, Ray Baltimore. 284 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: That's it. Okay, Um, he had a great care he 285 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: first round pick, right, first round, had a great career. Um, 286 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: and you were the Madam a few times. Great, great dude, 287 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: but always jokingly he didn't work out. Prior to the draft, 288 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: everybody knows he was going to be the first tight 289 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: end taking. I just assumed i'd be the second tight 290 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: end taken. But I felt like if he would have 291 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: worked out, he'd got taken earlier in the first round, 292 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: and then I had up popping right up in there. 293 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: So I always blame that on him. But oh, you 294 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: thought if he had worked out, he would have gone higher, higher, 295 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: and then another team would have taken you. Yeah, the 296 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: next one would have said, Okay, here's a run on 297 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: tight ends, especially if we can get get the kid 298 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: from North Carolina to come in. But no, it's pretty hard, 299 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: perfect man, because um, the Falcons made the trade with 300 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: the Chargers, you know, they were able to get that 301 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: number one pick and get Michael Vick, and then um, 302 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: you and Vic Yeah, And then I came in, and 303 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: of all, I had so many teams. I had about 304 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: five or six teams on my list that I just 305 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: knew we're going to take me based on my interviews, 306 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: based on my communication with my agent. I didn't interview 307 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons really all. I trained here in Atlanta, 308 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: and literally did I know their scouts used to come 309 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: out and watch the practice but our workouts. But I 310 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: never had one sit down interview that I remember it. 311 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know how 312 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: things were going to pan out. They made Philly Philly. Um. 313 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: I joked with Rich McKay because he was the the 314 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: guy over in Tampa, and I said, you know they 315 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: they were gonna take me. And they traded up in 316 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the first round to get a tackle. I think it 317 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: was King YadA Walker Doakland Raiders, Uh Baltimore who ended 318 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: up taking Um Todd Heap and I can't remember the 319 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: other okay, but I just knew it was going to 320 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: be one of those teams, but it was not at all. 321 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati was the other team, but it was 322 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: not gonna be Atlanta Atlanta. But I'm glad they picked me. 323 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: I was glad until I got off the plane and 324 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: read the paper and they said Dan Reeves drafted another 325 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: tight end and the fans were upset. Oh, well, you 326 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: know Falcons fans, you score, they'll love you. You know, 327 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: they can be they can be fair weather fickles sometimes, 328 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: but not to me. I enjoyed my Falcon fans. Yeah, 329 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: repeat that, I enjoy my Falcon fans. Awesome. Plus I 330 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: go to all the games. Yeah, we're gonna talk about 331 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: that too. But do you remember the other guys in 332 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: your draft class. It was Michael Vick you Roberto Garza. 333 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: Roberto Garza who had the wrongest career of all of us. 334 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: He went to the Chicago Bears and played a long time. 335 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: I think he played fourteen maybe fifteen years twenty fourteen. 336 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: Keenan forty one of my best friends. He's he was 337 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: a seventh round of probably one of the best guards 338 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: ever to come through match this organization. That doesn't get 339 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: the credit. Matt Stewart Vanderbilt if Any Sutherland out of perdue. 340 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: Kick returner Randy Garner didn't make the team, but we 341 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: played each other the very first week of the regular 342 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: season because as soon as we cut him, San Francisco 343 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: picked him up. We kicked the ball off and he's 344 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: returned to kick and then h who was the other 345 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: I know? Cory Hall was one. Who was Quentin McCord, 346 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: Kenyan Forney, Ronald Flemings. Ronald Flemings and Quentin McCord. Quentin McCord, 347 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: Andy Garner and Quentin had one of the best single 348 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: games four seven topics until Julio got here. He had 349 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: one of the best single games in Falcon history. He 350 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: only played too two seasons three three. So you and 351 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: VICKI it here and uh, had you guys kind of 352 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: changed the city? Take the city by storm, take and 353 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: eventually take a country by storm. One of the he 354 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: took the city by but I mean you were a 355 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: big part of that. It was it had to have been, 356 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: like these are electrifying times here, right, d No, he 357 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: took the city by storm. I used to get to 358 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: the club and wait for him to get there so 359 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: I could get in. I didn't want to spend twenty bucks. 360 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: I was cheap man. So what was that whole thing like? 361 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: Because I know it was the you know, all I 362 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: think of is the Dickens quote. It was the best 363 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: of times and worst of times because the highs and 364 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: the lows. But we didn't have content. I always said, 365 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: tell people, I said, we could beat any team when 366 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: we played. We just weren't consistent. Um, we were gonna 367 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: be exciting, we were gonna have a lot of fun, 368 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: but you didn't know what team was going to show 369 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: up when when we kicked the ball off. And there 370 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: are a lot of special moments, and I um, I 371 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: enjoyed a lot of them. Some of them weren't so good. 372 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Some of them tried to dump from my memories until 373 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: I'm reminded, um, but try not that they were They 374 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: were some good now that's okay. Well they were some 375 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: good years though. I mean that's what we were talking about. 376 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: I like, yeah, trying to go down memory memory lane. Well, 377 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: you had said in the Land Journal Constitution about playing 378 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: with Vick. Those were fun times. It was the Michael 379 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Vick experience, and I really thought we had enough to 380 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: get beyond the NFC Championship game in two thousand and four. 381 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: What was your favorite Michael Vick moment the Superman slid Carolina? Yeah, 382 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: against the Carolina Panthers. Did you ever find yourself during 383 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: a game going, you know, just amazed what he did 384 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: on the field, or did he surprise you even in Well, 385 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I was amazed that a a lot because we you don't 386 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: u there are no scrambles in practice, you know, until 387 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: we work on the scramble drill, which is scripted. There 388 00:21:52,560 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: are no highlight real practice runs, right, you know, those 389 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: things just don't happen. The players designed to do this. Yeah, yeah, 390 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: one game and it breaks down. Yeah, once you break 391 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: through the line of scrimmage. Everybody tags off. The running 392 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: back runs twenty or thirty yards down the field to 393 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: get you know, some extra conditioning in. Or the receiver 394 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: catches the ball you know, like a Roddy White and 395 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: then takes it, you know, twenty or thirty yards. It 396 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: gets some extra conditioning in. But the highlight moments don't 397 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: generally happen in practice. So in the games, whenever there 398 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: are things that were improvised and in our offense, a 399 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: lot of it was. Um, it stood out. Um. You 400 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: you end up having a great career here. We talked 401 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: about your stats here, four time pro bowler here. Um. 402 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: At the end, you know, it was probably the time 403 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: you're referencing that you probably don't want to remember too much. Um. 404 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: But then you signed with Tennessee. Ye, and then you 405 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: played with or then you all. So I went to 406 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: New England. Two years in Tennessee. You want to year 407 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: in New England? Yeah? And you worked with Rob Gronkowski 408 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: and Aaron the late Aaron Hernandez. Yeah. There, I had 409 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: him rookie year. Oh yeah, and that was that was 410 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: pretty cool too. I want to ask you about that too, 411 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: because I came across this quote that I thought was 412 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: really interesting. And you were talking about your time in 413 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: New England. You said, that is the most fun I've 414 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: ever had to have the chance to play with Tom Brady. 415 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: I just wished I would have that. I would have 416 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: still had some tread on my tires. The way Tom prepares, 417 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: manages the game and leads and leads is incredible. I'm 418 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: still dumbfounded that he was a late draft pick. But 419 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: I love playing for the Falcons. But I think I 420 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: learned more my tenth year than I did my first time. 421 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: And Bill Belichick was very complimentary of you how you 422 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: always did always were in the right place at the 423 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: right time, knew how to handle yourself the right way. 424 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: You were a pro's pro, and he always respected that 425 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: about you. He just said he Algae always did the 426 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: right thing at the right time every single time. We 427 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: had a great level of communication. I was one of 428 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: the team captains in that organization that already won championships. 429 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm the outsider that's coming in And I remember the 430 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: first time Kevin Falk towards ACL they needed another captain 431 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: and they appointed me to captain. And I'm sitting in 432 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: there with Tom Brady and Gerard Mayo and Vince Wilford 433 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: the core of their organization with Bill Belichick every single week, 434 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: and my opinion mattered, you know, because Belichick pressed me 435 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: on things that were going on with the team. You know, 436 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: what do I see? I value your opinion and I 437 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: was able to give my opinion just like everybody else, 438 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: and then we defer to coach and we go out 439 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: and execute the game plan that was that was implemented 440 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: for that week. I found that amazing that the game 441 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: plan changed drastically every single week. But that's what that 442 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: organization does to win games, and it works. But I 443 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: don't want to, Yeah, that's interesting, keep talking about that 444 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: organization because what they did to this organization my organization. 445 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: So I'll leave it at that. But I enjoyed immensely 446 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: my time there, and I did learn a lot. And 447 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: it's interesting though that I read Michael Bennett pretty much 448 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: say the exact same thing this week in the news 449 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: he's with the Cowboys because they're playing the Patriots this week, 450 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: that he learned more in his little limited time that 451 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: I learned a lot. I mean, it was amazing the 452 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: way things were taught, the way things were organized, and 453 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: I just was part of me was furious that it 454 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: wasn't taught that way all the years that I played, 455 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: and part of me was just just was a level 456 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: of understanding like wow, Okay, this is why this organization 457 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: does what they do because the product on the field 458 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: is the only thing that matters. Do you still do 459 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: you you consider yourself a falcon though? Yeah? I do? Okay? Um, 460 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: who was the greatest player that you ever played with 461 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: as a teammate? Is it vic Um? The greatest player? Yeah? Who? Who? 462 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Of all the teammates you had? Um? Because you played 463 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I played three games went Randy Moss and it was 464 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: amazing before we traded him away when I was in 465 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: New England. But it was his football knowledge was amazing. 466 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: The way that he spoke about football. In terms of 467 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: the way that we understood it, it was amazing. But 468 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: in terms of um, the work ethic and the time 469 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: that it took to put into being a pro, it 470 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady. Um. I never I've never been on 471 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: a team where after beating a team by thirty, the 472 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: quarterback was on the plane with a laptop preparing for 473 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: the next opponent. I never never been around that. I mean, 474 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: I've been around teams where we're celebrating, you know, beating 475 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: a team by thirty and we'll get to the next 476 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: opponent on Wednesday, and yeah and due time. But never 477 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: been around someone that puts so much time in to 478 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: their craft from a mental standpoint, as as Tom Brady, 479 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing to see Um and I 480 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: I just named two very different people, but that made 481 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: the biggest impression on me in terms of how they 482 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: prepared for a game, explained the game in practice on 483 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: a on a daily basis. Interesting, that's good stuff. Um, 484 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Who was the greatest player you ever played against? Warren 485 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: Sapp and Michael straight and and then Brian Dawkins. But 486 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: every time I say Brian Dawkins, they remember me getting rocked. 487 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna leave him out of it. He's got 488 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: his glory, I'm gonna leave I'm gonna leave Dark out 489 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: of it, even though he's my buddy, all right. So 490 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: Warren Sapp, who I hate it and got into it 491 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: with many a time, But it didn't matter how many 492 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: times we prepared for him alone, he was still beat 493 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: the bust up some of the players that we had 494 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: designed to take him out of the game. And then uh, 495 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan, he could get off the ball so slow 496 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: and you would blink, and then the quarterbacks on the 497 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: ground never seen thing like it. You had guys that 498 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: just get off so fast and you can block him, 499 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: but he would get off and you would think, Okay, 500 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: this is not gonna work. He's gonna wrap around him 501 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: and and somebody else is gonna come the other way, 502 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: and then he's gone. First step but a really fast 503 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: second step. Is that with that is he's a closer. 504 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: He's a finisher, And I think that's the thing that 505 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: matters the most is guys that know how to finish. 506 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: And Michael Strahan was one of those guys. I was 507 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: an intern um in Tampa in ninety five when Warren 508 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: was a rookie with Derek Brooks and he pretty good 509 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: draft class. Rich McKay, Yeah, it was pretty good draft class. Um. 510 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: You brought up Dawkins and I just gotta just guys, 511 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: just throw this out here. Why is it that every 512 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: time everybody brings up that hit, And it was on 513 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles dot com too and a couple other places, 514 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: it's always labeled as Brian Dawkins steamrolled LG. Crumpler In 515 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: the two thousand and four championship game. You did. You 516 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: caught the ball and you got up. Yeah, he did, 517 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: and it's not like he does. That's football. You get hit. Yeah, 518 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: that's a hard play that you still bothered me, as 519 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: I joke with. I joked with Dawkins, and he said 520 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: that play changed the game. We scored on the very 521 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: next play because it was wasn't in fourteen three game 522 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: or something like that. We very next play. Okay, work done, 523 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: score Yeah, so I didn't see it because I was 524 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: hurt on sideline for that? Did you take? But Aly 525 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: took one playoff? Okay one? Yeah, Well you stay in 526 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: the game. You caught the ball. Yeah, and you know 527 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: for all, for all you can tell watching the replay, 528 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: Dawkins didn't know what planet he was at. But he's 529 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: stay in the game. He was hurt. That's reason why 530 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: I was scored and he was hurt. He was a 531 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: little boozy. Well I don't get that. I mean, you 532 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: caught the ball and got up, so hey, a hard 533 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: HiT's a hard hit. Hard hit. He might as well catch. 534 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: It was gonna hurt either way. It was a legal hit. 535 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: It was shoulder. It was shoulder. It was legal by 536 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: today's standards. Yeah, probably would have drew a flag because 537 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rest look at these days, 538 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: but it was I can I can't get fined for 539 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: this Atlanta Falcons dot com. So just keep that in mine. 540 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: Matt Tubeek did not say that I did. Oh, I 541 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: love it all right, So I just had to get 542 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: that Brian Dawkins bit off my chest because I'm not 543 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, but he's a great player. We'll just 544 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: leave it at that, Okay, moving up, all right, you 545 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: had quite the career here, um, and I think four 546 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: you were four time pro bowler. But I think you 547 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: were the leading receiver a few years too, aren't you? 548 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: Were you not? Yeah? Um, that's a pretty interesting tight end. Um. 549 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: I think your best year statistically was oh five, you 550 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: had an eight hundred and seventy seventy receiving yards. Just 551 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: that that whole stretch from I want to say two 552 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: thousand and three, two thousand and four or five six 553 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: was was pretty darn good. It was pretty cool. Chris 554 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Berman used to have a lot of fun with you 555 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: two on on the highlights too. Yeah, it was pretty cool. 556 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Your household name is when I'm trying to get at 557 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I was a household name, 558 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: but oh, you definitely were. You definitely were. I mean, 559 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: you're a fantasy draft. You were like top two three 560 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: guy every year. You know. I just fantasy football too, 561 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: And well, I didn't understand it at the time, but man, 562 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: when I was score touched. Now, I don't play, but 563 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: I was scoring touchdown and we'd lose the game. We 564 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: were all won like four or five games that year. 565 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: We would lose the game and my neighbors would have 566 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 1: cookies baked for me, talking about they had great fantasy points. 567 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: We win by fifteen and I get home and there'd 568 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: be crickets, nothing there, and I'd be like, because I 569 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: only caught two balls for eight yards fantasy. So I 570 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: was like, man, this fantasy stuff is gonna take off 571 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: one day, and little did I know it's as huge 572 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: as it is now. But man, just those I went 573 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: to four straight Pro Bowls. But the first year I went, 574 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: we won five games, and I was over in Hawaii 575 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: and my wife was pregnant with our oldest daughter, who's 576 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: fifteen now, and I literally would be on the elevator 577 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: and Pake Manning would walk on and I'd be looking 578 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: at him introducing myself and he'd be like, oh, I 579 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: know you are, and I'm sitting there going why am 580 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I here? Because I thought I quit everything to a team. 581 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, I needed our team to be good, to 582 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: accept like this award of being able to come over 583 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: here and and be considered one of the better players 584 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: in the league at the time. But it just felt 585 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: it felt really, I don't know if it's it just 586 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: felt weird. Man. It's like everybody's home and I'm over 587 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: there trying to enjoy everything. You know, It's a ten 588 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: hour flight. My wife's like eight months pregnant, and I'm 589 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: just like, oh man, this is this is gonna be tough. 590 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: This is tough stuff. Twist my iron to go to Hawaii. Honolulu. Um, 591 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: you know they played in Orlando. Now I can do that. Yeah, 592 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: our flight, you can do that. So I don't want 593 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to take back any experience that I 594 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: had in Honoluluh. All the years I went, it was 595 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: in Honolulu, and my family enjoyed it immensely. I think 596 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: the players didn't. It was kind of a cool deal. 597 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: There's a reason why it moves around, and that's above 598 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: above my head. So I'll let the guys that are 599 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: upset that I was talking about the stripes deal with that, 600 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: all right, Um, all right, let's have a little bit 601 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: fun before we wrap this up and talk about this 602 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: year's team and what you're doing. Um, you know, you 603 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: we talked about the hardest or we talked about the 604 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: greatest player you faced, and greatest guy that you greatest 605 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: player that you played with and against, that kind of stuff. 606 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: But you asked me who my favorite teammate was. I 607 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: did not work done. Yeah, he's a great guy. Work done. 608 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: It's such a good dude, My favorite such a He's 609 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: just a really just good dude, special guy on and 610 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: off the field. I'm at him once and you know, 611 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: I won't get into the conversation. But the next time 612 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I saw him, he asked about he asked about my mother, 613 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: and he's just he just remembers stuff. Work special. Um, 614 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: he exludes a lot of the same qualities as mister 615 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: Blank because he cares about you. He wants to know 616 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: about you, and you know, everything that he's doing from 617 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: his home for the holidays charity is just all about 618 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: giving back. You know, there's not a more special teammate 619 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: than I've had than him. All right, let's go inside 620 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: the huddle now, all right, it's the weirdest thing that's 621 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: ever happened inside a huddle, weirdest conversation or just think 622 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: Jeffy around a football field. We'll just open it up. 623 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: I wish I could tell the story the best. But 624 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: my first regular season game was against San Francisco, just 625 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: prior to nine to eleven, and first every game regular 626 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: season game. Okay, I don't know who he played in 627 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: the preseason, but the first regular season game was on 628 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: the road two thousand and one against the San Francisco 629 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: forty nine US, who at the time was in our 630 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: division because we were the old NFC West, not the 631 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: NFC South since the realignment. And is that right, yeah, right, yeah, 632 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: And Chris Chandler starts the game and I don't remember 633 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: what happened in the series that Chris was in there, 634 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: but the very first series that Michael Vick gets in 635 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: the huddle, he takes his helmet off, pulls out chapstick 636 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: and puts it on and we were just looking at 637 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: him like, do you have chapstick in your helmet? That 638 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: was his place to keep it. It was the best 639 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: ice breaker. I think I'd ever seen in a huddle. 640 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: I would never forget Jamal Anderson's face because he locked 641 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: eyes with everybody after Mike pulled it out of it 642 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: because where did he put it? It was just in 643 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: the paths in his helmet. Okay. I was amazed was happening. 644 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: I guess so it was. That was that very funny moment. 645 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: But that was the first before his first ever play 646 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: international football. Did he just kind of do that to 647 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of loosen everybody up? Or he was he was? 648 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: That was his serious. That was just a normal part 649 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: of his getting ready to play. And he and he 650 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: continued to use the chapstick. I'm assuming right. I don't 651 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: know if he kept it in his helmet, Okay, but yeah, 652 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: that is unbelievable. That is that's that's gold. That is phenomenal. 653 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: This is why we have Algie Crumpler on the podcast. Um, 654 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: who do who? Who do Who? That wasn't a good birds. 655 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: That was a good one too. Um I repeated you 656 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: for some reason. Uh, that's a great one. You know. 657 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm He's kind of left me speechless for that one. 658 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna just wrap that right there. 659 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about these Falcons. You were out 660 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: talking to the coaches and stuff like that. It sounds 661 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: like you still go to all the games. I go 662 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: to all of them. Um, I've been going to him 663 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: for about five years. I've been retired for eight years now. 664 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: I've been going to them. For some guys going. Some 665 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: guys don't. Five. Yeah, I mean I was tailgating a lot, 666 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: and I go to for five years. I never missed 667 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: a home norse counting a football game. I bought a 668 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: motor home and I get up and down the road 669 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: and I go tailgate, have a good time. Um, I 670 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: live in Swanne. I live here in Atlanta area. So 671 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: you make the trip up and six hours down, six 672 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: hours back and leave it four in the morning, parket 673 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: and then drive down to the old Georgia Dome to 674 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: get ready for the Falcons kickoff. So it was fun 675 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: for a lot of years. But now the kids have 676 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: a lot of things on the weekends. Sports, a lot 677 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: of a lot of sports, a lot of activities, birthday parties, 678 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: three girls birthday parties, all kinds of stuff that interferes 679 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: with that seat license that I paid for the tickets. Hey, hey, 680 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: but I go it's okay, I go and I got 681 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: the tickets. I give the tickets to friends of mine. 682 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: Don't call me if you don't know me, but I 683 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: get the tickets to friends of mine if I can't 684 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: make the games, because I want to make sure the 685 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Falcon fans are sitting at my seats. It's awesome. So 686 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: here they they start off one and seven. They've won 687 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: the last two and coming out of the bye, you 688 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: saw what they did down in New Orleans, and then 689 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: you saw what they did and everyone kind of thought, oh, well, okay, 690 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: they came off the bye. It's their big rival. They're motivated. 691 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: They kicked in the doors at the Superdome, I like 692 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: to say, but what they did was impressive and holding 693 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: them without a touchdown, Drew Brees without a touchdown. But 694 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: then they come up to Charlotte and it's almost is impressive, 695 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: not more impressive what they do. So it's like, okay, 696 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: so everyone's going, where's this been all year? Who cares? 697 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: You kind of wish you start with the division now. Yeah, 698 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: this is probably one of the latest division games I've 699 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: seen on a schedule. All their division games are in 700 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: the second half in a long time. Yeah, So it's 701 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: it's been pretty cool the last two games and how 702 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: everything has turned around. It looked like a completely different team. Well, 703 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: you've played in the league ten years and you've seen 704 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs and weird things and streaks, 705 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, what do you make of this team? Um, 706 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: they're just clicking at the right time, playing better at 707 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: the right time. DQ made some gutsy decisions that a 708 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of people questioned, but it has benefited his team, 709 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: and the guys are playing playing well. Move coaches around 710 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: that guys are playing well, and and just hoping that 711 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: this can continue. I don't care what happens, you know. 712 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't care about playoffs. I just care about just 713 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: seeing good, competent football down the stretch so that when 714 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: myself or any hard working Falcon fan that's paid for 715 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: these tickets come and show up, that they're getting a 716 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: good product. And the last two weeks we've seen that, 717 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty I'm hoping it continues. I think, come 718 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: up here too, where they play. I think, is it 719 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: four on the next five games? Home games still be 720 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: good for the fans, and uh, yeah, the fans are excited. 721 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: I do a mailbag every day and it's amazing. You 722 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: lose four games in a row, five games in a row, 723 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: six games in a row. Everybody's everybody wants everyone's head 724 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: on a stake. But it seems like every every year, though, 725 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: there's been a rough stretch and DQ has found a 726 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: way to turn it around. Yes, so you know it's 727 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: turning around now, and guys that weren't playing well and 728 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: playing better, and that's just just what you expect, you know. 729 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: I love the fact that I found more and more 730 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: Saints fans in my contacts in my phone as each 731 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: quarter went along. I found more and more Panthers fans 732 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: in my phone as each quarter went along, and sending 733 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: them some nice messages to go along with that butt 734 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: whooping that the Birds were giving them. So um, I 735 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: just wanted to continue. Yeah, it's I was. I was 736 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: really happy for Falcons fans too, because you know what 737 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: people are going to remember this season? After that game, 738 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: I said, people are gonna remember this season. Yeah, so 739 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: what besides the record? They went in and took a 740 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: really good New Orleans team and just throttled them. You know, 741 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: you couldn't tell which team was one and seven one, 742 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: and I want to throttle them again, it's coming up. 743 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: But thanks take care of the Bucks first. This is 744 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: a game you have to win. Yes, a little turkey 745 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: didn't take care of the Saints those two games, those 746 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: past two games where teams there were, you know, decent records. 747 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: The Bucks isn't right? You tell me? Is this a 748 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: game you must win? Rich? Well, yes, Rich McKay called 749 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: it a validation game. Though, I mean it's it's you 750 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: have to This is a team you're supposed to beat, 751 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: yes or no. I mean I need the same effort 752 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: in the same production. It's kind of hard to have that. 753 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: The production has been amazing. The team that only had 754 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: seven sacks and then you get uh eleven in two games. Yeah, 755 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: after only having seven sacks you know, true Fonts the 756 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: only guy with interceptions, and then you get four you 757 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: know in this past year first half. Yeah, so, um, 758 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I don't think any Falcon fans wouldn't 759 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 1: take it. Um. Well, it's about forget about draft picks. 760 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: Just put out a good product. If you put out 761 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: a good product with you guys you have, you'll draft 762 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: a good guy. Coming up. Well, I don't want to 763 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: talk too much about the Bucks game because this podcast 764 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: is actually coming out next week. Okay, next week, all right, 765 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: so the Bucks game will have been decided by the 766 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: time this comes out. So to your point, just keep 767 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: stacking wins, keep just keep playing well, keep putting on 768 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: a good product, you know, make it put out a 769 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: product that Falcon fans. I've met a lot. I mean, 770 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm all around the city. I see a lot of 771 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: Falcon fans. I interact with a lot of Falcon fans. 772 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 1: They just want to good football. They want to see 773 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: competent football. Um and the product that we've seen during 774 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: this turnaround is what the Falcon fans expect. So let's 775 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: let's continue to give it to him. That's a great 776 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: place to wrap this up to Algie Crumpler, Aljernin Crumpler, Algernon, 777 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: that's right, thank you for coming out to Bird Noises. 778 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: It was a it was a lot of fun. Who 779 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: who COODI who? And I hope you come back to 780 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: you want me back, all right, I'll come back, you 781 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: come back, I'll come back, all right. Nice studio, great studio. Well, 782 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: Trevor Lasso and Austin Hill will appreciate that. All right, Hey, 783 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: thanks so much. All right, rep get the past interfence. Right, 784 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: all right, this is Algie Crumpler, old school dirty Bird, 785 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: and you're listening to bird noises with my main man, 786 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: Matt Tipek,