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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George Noriy with you, David Juliana

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Speaker 2: with us. The Demonologists will take calls with David next

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Speaker 2: hour here on Coast to Coast, Share your stories, Ask

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Speaker 2: a question, David. We're talking about invoking the name Jesus,

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Speaker 2: and I would suggest and probably guess it's probably a

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Speaker 2: good idea, isn't.

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Speaker 3: It As long as it's something you believe. You can't

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Speaker 3: just if you're not a believer. You can't just say

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Speaker 3: a name and hope for the best. It's when I

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Speaker 3: do religious versions of what I'm doing. I am using

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Speaker 3: God and Jesus, I'm invoking all that. But there's cases

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Speaker 3: where people don't believe that. You know, we've dealt with

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Speaker 3: people from a variety of religions and in those cases,

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Speaker 3: you know, doing something with a Jewish family invoking the

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Speaker 3: name of Jesus, even if it's for my own protection,

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Speaker 3: is going to alienate them. So you kind of have

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Speaker 3: to change it up. And it's always best if you

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Speaker 3: can find people that share that same belief system. So

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Speaker 3: there is like a network of us out there that

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Speaker 3: no people in various religions that can like take over

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Speaker 3: a case if it's something that's kind of out of

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Speaker 3: your out of your belief system, out of your wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been on a situation where somebody was hurt?

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately? Yes.

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Speaker 2: What happened.

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Speaker 3: The one that pops right in my head right now

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Speaker 3: is we went out to the case and it seemed

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Speaker 3: like a normal, everyday haunting, so we didn't really think

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Speaker 3: much of it. We heard back like three days later

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Speaker 3: and apparently the gentleman had the swat team outside his house.

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Speaker 3: He was You could hear people screaming for help. You

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Speaker 3: have hostages he was supposedly holding. They heard one final

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Speaker 3: gunshot and they breached the house and he was alone.

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Speaker 3: There were no people inside. All the police officers had

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Speaker 3: heard the screaming, but he had. It was him and

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Speaker 3: his dog. He had been lying to us the entire time,

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Speaker 3: as well as his wife. He had a whole other

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Speaker 3: hidden life that was going on that he was actually

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Speaker 3: dabbling in things that he shouldn't have been dabbling in,

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Speaker 3: and he drew whatever spirit was there. And I would

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Speaker 3: guess that it's one of those situations where he was

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Speaker 3: getting something. It's not free and the bill came due,

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Speaker 3: and you know, he wound up taking his life.

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Speaker 2: Did he know how bad the situation was prior to that.

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Speaker 3: We had no idea going back and doing even more

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Speaker 3: research because we had access through his accounts. Now his

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Speaker 3: found a whole secret life going on with many criminal feelings,

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Speaker 3: from drugs to money to multiple other relationships. He was

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Speaker 3: That was the deal. He was getting away with that,

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Speaker 3: and suddenly the other side wants to get paid, They

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Speaker 3: want their end. And whether he wasn't willing to do

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Speaker 3: it or him taking his life was part of the deal,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But it was one of those ones

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Speaker 3: where you to this day, I will still go back

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Speaker 3: us out there originally just to make his wife feel

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Speaker 3: better about the little things that were happening in the house,

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Speaker 3: their doors opening and closing, footsteps, all the innocuous stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I guess he hoped that nothing else will go

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Speaker 2: David, What do you think creates the haunted house? Is

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Speaker 3: It could be a land itself that something's built on

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Speaker 3: the time, and it's more likely that it's haunted, and

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Speaker 3: that's not necessarily the case. What was on the ground

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Speaker 3: where the new house was built? Where I grew up,

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Speaker 3: It could be an object. A spirit could be attached

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, of all the hauntings

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Speaker 2: demons as opposed to something that could be light and funny.

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Speaker 3: I think most of them are just like a typical haunting.

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Speaker 3: Nothing that's dangerous, stuff that people could learn to live

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Speaker 3: It's harder for me to gauge what the percentage is

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Speaker 3: because all the cases I get are always negative. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's probably about eighty percent of the negative cases coming in.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, keep in mind, that's this is

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Speaker 2: Why do you get so many negative jobs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea. We always had talked about

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Speaker 3: did those kind of cases. The name of the group

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Speaker 3: of South Jersey Ghost Research. There's nothing in that name

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Speaker 3: that in the case. Hey, you know, call us we

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Speaker 3: got if you got something bad yet we would get

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Speaker 3: the bad cases, and other teams in our area wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: So I kind of chalked it up as you know,

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Speaker 3: the universe is finding a way to get the cases

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Speaker 3: to the right people. But now that I put it

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Speaker 3: and I say I do that. You know the feminology

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Speaker 3: and the negative cases. You know, more people when they're

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Speaker 3: more likely going to come up in the area as

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Speaker 3: opposed to a regular paranormal team.

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Speaker 4: And I know you're going to want some after hearing this.

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Speaker 4: This is an amazing story.

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Speaker 5: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Now I understand that Malachi, who's eight almost nine years

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Speaker 4: old now, was suffering with not just one or two warts,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.

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Speaker 5: It was Ty's book actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 5: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can

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Speaker 5: see that it would work.

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Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there

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Speaker 5: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 6: The size of the wanner. I thought, no way, that's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna Wow, that's just been miraculous to say him get

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Speaker 5: into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 6: It's great to see him so happy.

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Speaker 4: And yes, absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 6: For instead of seen it that is blown away.

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Speaker 3: TI, this is awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: David, do you know demonologist Bill Bean, Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: He's a good guy and and I've asked him before

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Speaker 2: if he ever has been scared on an event, and

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Speaker 2: he has he has. What keeps you doing this.

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Speaker 3: To help people? I I know that I got through

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Speaker 2: What are some of the misconceptions people have about demonology

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Speaker 3: You know? I think everyone is expecting something with a pitchfork,

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a situation where when you

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Speaker 3: think that that's the motivation, just to you know, try

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Speaker 3: to rattle me. It has. I've been physically attacked across

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Speaker 3: different houses. My wife sees the stuff too, so that's

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Speaker 3: of confession, he had to go one on one with

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Speaker 3: was enough to make him think God didn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 3: But the devil did.

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Speaker 2: I go back and forth between La and Saint Louis,

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Speaker 2: and years ago I became one year away from interviewing

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Speaker 2: one of the priests who was in the original Lecturecist

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Speaker 2: that the William Blady wrote about.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but he died.

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Speaker 2: I was a year late. But that would have been

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Speaker 2: a great interview, David.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been to get the inside knowledge

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Speaker 3: of what.

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Speaker 2: They went through. What do you think is happening spiritually

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Speaker 2: with these demons right now?

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Speaker 3: We're seeing an uptick in the amount of cases coming

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Speaker 3: in and how violent they are. Years ago, we would

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Speaker 3: see something that had some kind of assault, whether it

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Speaker 3: was a physical assault or sexual assault, maybe like once

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Speaker 3: every six months, and now it's almost every other case

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Speaker 3: that comes in, and I trying to chalk it up

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Speaker 3: to the environment that relived. There's more negativity than positivity,

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Speaker 3: so there's more guess to pour on that fire. If

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Speaker 3: the spirits are pulling from us and our energy, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of negativity to pull from. They have a

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Speaker 3: little extra energy to come and manifest and do a

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Speaker 3: little more damage than they usually would.

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Speaker 2: How long do you have to be in a home

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Speaker 2: before you see something happen?

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Speaker 3: There are times that we never see anything happen. A

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Speaker 3: lot of even when we're doing extracism, A lot of

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Speaker 3: them are very boring. Yeah, it's standing in front of

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Speaker 3: someone doing prayers. They're sitting there, any response that they

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Speaker 3: need to give. We may have incense, gullying and things

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Speaker 3: like that, but it's it's not as dramatic as you

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Speaker 3: always see it in the movies. There are bad ones,

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Speaker 3: but there's plenty of times we've been in the house

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Speaker 3: where we've seen nothing. But I don't assume just because

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Speaker 3: we haven't that the person isn't experiencing it, because if

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Speaker 3: it's something that's negative that doesn't want to be gotten

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Speaker 3: rid of, you know, don't pick a fight with us.

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Speaker 3: Pretend you're not there. We're going to leave, and then

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Speaker 3: you could start right back up again, and then they

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Speaker 3: call us out nothing's happening. And I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 3: of people just think, now that person's making stuff up

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Speaker 3: where they're crazy. We won't come back, And I will

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Speaker 3: because I know that that's a tactic. Even when we're

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Speaker 3: going to do a house blessing, they could spirits know

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Speaker 3: we're there, they know what we're doing. They could just

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Speaker 3: go outside, spend some time in the yard, come back

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Speaker 3: a few days later and start all over again.

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Speaker 2: Do Bad things sometimes happen to righteous people.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, if you think of the person at the prize,

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Speaker 3: it would be much higher of a prize to take

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Speaker 3: down someone who was very devout and very religious and

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Speaker 3: bring them down and break them of their faith and beliefs,

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Speaker 3: as it would, instead of just somebody who really doesn't

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Speaker 3: have any and you know, is morally challenged. Anyway, when

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Speaker 3: you take someone down, that that's that high. I think

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Speaker 3: that's like, you know, that's a gold medal, it's a trophy.

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