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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Ull that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edo State is that?

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Speaker 2: Woo woom? And Dan and Tie. College Football Championship Week.

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein is officially in the books, and my friend,

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Speaker 2: we have much to discuss. How are you this evening?

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts that will be used against

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Speaker 1: me in a court of law, much like my PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve championship prediction has been used. Again. It's okay, it's

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Speaker 1: all okay. I'm very excited to talk about. We had

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Speaker 1: a number of super fun, weird, crazy, uh intriguing games

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Speaker 1: and results, and there's all sorts of meaning to dissect

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Speaker 1: from all of it. Tie, I cannot Let's just let's

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Speaker 1: just jump as quickly as we humanly can, as quickly

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Speaker 1: as we can.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the way to go. And please hit

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Speaker 2: you rate, give star reviews, and whatever you can. Look,

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get through. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be a very very busy week of college football. We

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Speaker 2: had a very bizarre set of circumstances unfold this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we fully saw coming what ended

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Speaker 2: up happening, and the playoff committee clearly has some interesting

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Speaker 2: here over the next hour or so. This is effectively

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Speaker 2: part one of what's going to be a prolonged reaction

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Speaker 2: series from Dan and I. We are recording this at

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Speaker 2: midnight Saturday, after the Nightcaps, after the Louisville game, after

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Speaker 2: the Michigan Iowa game. The committee's got to make its

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Speaker 2: selections here in a matter of hours, so we will

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Speaker 2: of course update those when we can. As part of

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Speaker 2: the Tuesday podcast episode, we'll do a live reaction for

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Speaker 2: those of you who are catching this episode early. We'll

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Speaker 2: do that out on YouTube shortly after the playoff pairings

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Speaker 2: are announced. But being so, this is the campfire, let's

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Speaker 2: start the fire man, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll start in chronological order.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's like the move per se.

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Speaker 2: I think we should start in chronological order because we

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Speaker 2: can do one of those like Marvel Pac twelve championship

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Speaker 1: Is that what we can do one of is just

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Speaker 1: a it's only the real people.

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Speaker 2: Now. Don't cry because the Pac twelve's over. Smile. Smile

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Speaker 2: because the Washington Huskies happened. Smile because it happened because Washington.

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Speaker 2: Among all of the uncertainty that we're going to discuss

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Speaker 2: here this evening, Washington is absolutely going to the College

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Speaker 2: Football Playoff thirteen and zher. They beat your Oregon Ducks

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Speaker 2: by a thirty four thirty one score. They are undefeated

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Speaker 2: in the last ever season of the Pac twelve. They

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Speaker 2: got a great win on Friday night in Vegas, and

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Speaker 2: they're going to the ship Man, They're playing for the ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And we both were wrong. We both said that

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Speaker 2: we thought Oregon was gonna win this game. You were

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Speaker 2: pretty adamantly that Oregon had enough momentum going into this

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Speaker 1: And what happened, Well, first of all, you nailed it

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Speaker 1: And the way they close out this game right that

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Speaker 1: and they're now going to be rivals at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season in the Big Ten. Caleb de Boor

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Speaker 1: and Washington own this rivalry. And I have nothing but

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Speaker 1: good things to say. And if you force me to

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Speaker 2: Washington won this game the trenches. Yeah, they won this

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Speaker 2: scheme in the trenches. Their offensive front set the tone

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Speaker 2: And if you watched the game again, it really truly

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Speaker 1: And part of that is Oregon did score quite quickly

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Speaker 1: And look, everybody's beat up, everybody's dealing with injuries. That's

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Speaker 1: Everybody's beat up, everybody's hurt. You got to make plays,

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Speaker 2: Let me close with this because I think you did

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Speaker 2: a pretty good summation of the game. Yeah, for all

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Speaker 2: They sacked him twice. They did generate some pressure, but

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Speaker 1: Should mention the game winning touchdown for Washington was the

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Speaker 1: tight end Quinton Moore shows block, leaks out for like

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Speaker 1: a two yard little touch pass. One hundred percent success

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Speaker 1: I'm always screaming about this as an Oregon human. For

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Speaker 2: It did. So with that being said, we know one

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Speaker 2: We know Michigan is going to be in that college

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Speaker 2: football playoff. Michigan won twenty six to nil over Iowa.

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Speaker 2: By the way, hit the big blowout parlay of I

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Speaker 1: Youwer than half a point is some number. That's great.

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Speaker 1: Yah. I hope that the dds out there are doing

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Speaker 2: Gained one hundred and forty nine yards. Michigan only gained

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Speaker 2: two hundred and twelve yards. This was not exactly a

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Speaker 2: stellar offensive showing for the Michigan Wolverines. They did what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't the most impressive performance, and not that

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Speaker 1: do much. He just didn't make mistakes. That was thirty

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Speaker 2: That's fine, perfectly content with the matchup. I'm perfectly content

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Speaker 2: Michigan covers. It was a very frightful game of Iowa offense.

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. We know Washington, we know Michigan. It

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, we again, we knew what we were

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Speaker 1: In the second half. And there's a reason why team

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Speaker 2: It's a very good defense. But I I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: of me for saying this. They have faced more adversity,

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Speaker 2: putting it. I mean, yeah, they didn't they didn't have

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Speaker 2: Iowa's defensive calls tonight. If they did, they did a

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Speaker 2: by Virtue of Alabama knocking off Georgia twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: we can talk about this game. Texas. Texas won in

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Speaker 2: resounding fashion. They needed to because the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 2: Selection Committee had them ranked seventh coming into the week.

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Speaker 2: Texas won forty nine to twenty one over Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: truly in a game that didn't it never felt close.

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Speaker 2: It was just never close. Oklahoma State had zero answers

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Speaker 2: a runaway train. And then this evening, as we come

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Speaker 2: Florida State won that sixteen to six, Florida State was

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Speaker 1: Two Jack Plumber interceptions in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it truly was a Jack the

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Speaker 2: football playoff. Why don't we start with the Bama Georgia game, though,

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Speaker 2: because that's really what kicked this conversation off. This was

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Speaker 2: an evenly matched defensive slugfest almost the full way through,

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Speaker 2: and Georgia committed by my count, the two biggest mistakes

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Speaker 1: After like a a nearly eight minute drive. I want

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Speaker 2: Towards the end of the first half, towards the that

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Speaker 2: ten points off Georgia mistakes broadly speaking, but this was

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Speaker 2: just a defensive slugfest. Neither team really had a whole

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Speaker 2: Bama is three of thirteen. The story for me was twofold,

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Speaker 2: all right. Yeah, one Georgia couldn't run the ball. They

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Speaker 2: I thought Bama's ability to control the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: but just managing it, not giving up monster plays, not

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Speaker 2: that ground game. And secondly, it's Jalen Milroe. Man, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a real problem. He's a real problem. The numbers

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Speaker 2: if you didn't watch this game, if you're just looking

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Speaker 1: But he's almost identical throwing the ball to Carson back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's clearly gotten better over the last three months.

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Speaker 2: He's clearly gotten a lot more confident. He's formed a

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Speaker 2: better ways to use him. They didn't use him as

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Speaker 2: They didn't use him as a runner until very late

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Speaker 2: that's when he delivered. And so it's just a really

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Speaker 2: interesting conversation to have about Alabama. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I also think the difference in this game is Carson

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Speaker 1: He can go downfield and he had that really nice.

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Speaker 1: It was those kinds of plays right where he takes

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Speaker 1: And what this means for Alabama moving forward. Sure, we're

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Speaker 1: We saw the long pass to Arian Smith, fastest guy

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Speaker 2: And I cannot emphasize this enough. Georgia losing throws the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Florida State winning, but I think especially Georgia

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Speaker 2: of the quinnu regime. Receivers were wide open by like

436
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Speaker 2: five to ten yards with nobody around them. Texas needed

437
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Speaker 2: to win impressively, and this game was essentially over before

438
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Speaker 2: it started. At a moment in this game I mentioned

439
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Speaker 2: this to you, it felt like Oklahoma State was basically

440
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Speaker 2: running the all PI offense. They were just eaving the

441
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Speaker 2: ball up, trying to get past interference to all shots.

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Speaker 1: It was the little John ockfense, right. It was shots shots, shots, shots.

443
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Speaker 2: It was. It was really really frustrating from an Oklahoma

444
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Speaker 2: State standpoint, not so much from the Texas standpoint, because

445
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Speaker 2: Texas did what they needed to do again, Texas resounding

446
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Speaker 2: win here to win the Big twelve. They beat Alabama.

447
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Speaker 2: There's a case to be made that maybe Texas should

448
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Speaker 2: be in this thing. And then the final team here.

449
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Speaker 2: Of note that we need to discuss is Florida State.

450
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Speaker 2: Florida State may be the most interesting bit in this

451
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Speaker 2: whole conversation. Now, So Jordan Travis goes down a couple

452
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Speaker 2: weeks ago, Tate Rodimaker comes in, they win the game

453
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Speaker 2: on the road at Florida. He gets concussed. We saw

454
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Speaker 2: Brock Glenn in this game. It was not exactly a

455
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Speaker 2: sparkling offensive showing for Florida State, but it was a

456
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Speaker 2: standout defensive performance for them most and.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, had some drops, got some drops, had

458
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Speaker 1: some drops.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much you want to

460
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Speaker 2: fault a guy making his first start in the a

461
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Speaker 2: SEC championship game with a playoff bid on the line, right,

462
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: that's a high pressure situation. And you know, I think

463
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Speaker 2: all things considered, you kind of know what you're going

464
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Speaker 2: to get there. Defensively, though, what Florida State did I

465
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Speaker 2: thought was really impressive. We did our stream earlier when

466
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Speaker 2: we were doing the SEC Championship watch along and you

467
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Speaker 2: asked me, what's the margin of victory for Florida State

468
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Speaker 2: in order for them to win and still get into

469
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Speaker 2: the playoff and mid all this uncertainty and.

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Speaker 1: Per your brain, per needs and wants for them. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: per my brain, per.

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Speaker 2: My needs and wants at the time as of like,

473
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Speaker 2: you know, six o'clock this afternoon, and I said, Florida

474
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Speaker 2: State's got to win by ten. Florida State won by ten.

475
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: They won by ten. They came up huge in some big,

476
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Speaker 2: high leverage moments defensively, and so at least by that measure,

477
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Speaker 2: they're a major conference champion. They're undefeated. A team like

478
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Speaker 2: that has never been left out of the College Football Playoff.

479
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Speaker 2: They of course had the win back in Week one

480
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Speaker 2: over LSU. They knocked off Clemson. They've had some bumps

481
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Speaker 2: in the road, but by a large. Florida State has

482
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Speaker 2: been pretty much unscathed throughout the course of the season,

483
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Speaker 2: as evidenced by the record. So they've got as strong

484
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Speaker 2: a case as anybody, probably a stronger case if I'm

485
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Speaker 2: being honest, then either of the other two, or you

486
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Speaker 2: can even add three if you want to include Georgia,

487
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Speaker 2: or four if you want to add Ohio State, Florida

488
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Speaker 2: State's got it. I would think presumably Florida State's got

489
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Speaker 2: it as an undefeated major conference champion.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible watching this performance from was It Joe

491
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Speaker 1: Tess and Jesse Palmers The Bachelor as they were sort

492
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: of contorting themselves in like different directions, like well, it's

493
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Speaker 1: a quarterback driven sport, and how do you do it

494
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Speaker 1: without you know, knowing what kind of quarterback play you're

495
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Speaker 1: going to get from a playoff team? But like, well,

496
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Speaker 1: they went undefeated, here's a playoff caliber defense.

497
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Speaker 2: Here's my question though, Okay, yeah, here's my question, and

498
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: this is what I am really hung up on. Okay,

499
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Speaker 2: does this version of Florida State beat Alabama? Does this

500
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Speaker 2: version of Florida State beat Michigan? Does this version of

501
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: Florida State with the backup or the backup to the backup,

502
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Speaker 2: given its defense, beat any of the teams that I

503
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Speaker 2: just mentioned, any of these six or seventeen, however many

504
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: you want to include in that conversation, I don't care.

505
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Does this version of Florida State beat

506
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Speaker 2: any of those teams in a playoff setting?

507
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Speaker 1: May I quote the great Samuel Gerard as played by

508
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Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones in the terrific movie The Fugitive. It's like,

509
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: I didn't kill my wife, and Samuel Gerard says, I

510
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: don't care, right, I don't care. And here's the thing.

511
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Speaker 1: Does does this version of Florida State, this version of

512
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Speaker 1: Florida State isn't playing. It's it's going to be a

513
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Speaker 1: Tate Rotamaker team in a month. If we're talking about

514
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: or State in the playoff, right, sure he's gonna be back.

515
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a brock Lend team. Now when

516
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Speaker 1: you say that, when I say that, then you're crawling

517
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Speaker 1: into a space of like, well, what is date Ronnamaker

518
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Florida State? And were they the worst quarterback led team

519
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: that Florida played all year last year? Or offense? Maybe

520
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: Devin Lear and Kentucky weren't good but otherwise, like Bandy

521
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: threw the ball better against Florida than Florida State did

522
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Speaker 1: last week. So you get into the issue of like,

523
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Speaker 1: how much of a difference does looking forward make? How

524
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Speaker 1: much of a difference of winning a Power five conference undefeated?

525
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Florida State could have lost Texas did, Florida State could

526
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Speaker 1: have lost Alabama did, And so then you're you're getting in,

527
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Speaker 1: You're looking at resumes, you're looking at performances. If Florida

528
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Speaker 1: State wins this game with Jordan Travis at seventeen six,

529
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Speaker 1: are we having this conversation? Probably doesn't matter because they didn't. Right,

530
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Speaker 1: It's the old like if I had wheels, I'd be

531
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Speaker 1: a bicycle. Well that's not the reality in which we live. Yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: I do love that. So Florida State absolutely looked like

533
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Speaker 1: a playoff team on defense. So what does that mean

534
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Speaker 1: if they were playing Washington? What does that mean if

535
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Speaker 1: they're playing Michigan, Well, it means they could probably do

536
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: what Iowa did against Michigan, which is look really strong

537
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: and force Michigan to be very uncomfortable and lose the game,

538
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen to six or something like that. I

539
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: don't know how you leave Florida State out. But at

540
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: the same time, you could go reverse Tommy Lee Jones

541
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Speaker 1: and say the committee shouldn't care. First of all, this

542
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: is the committee is not going to have to make

543
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Speaker 1: this kind of precedent making decision ever. Again, it's never

544
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: going to be four teams again, So there's never gonna

545
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Speaker 1: be precedent for leaving out a power for as we

546
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Speaker 1: move forward, champion. So I go back and forth with this.

547
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: If you're asking me purely, which four teams do I

548
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: feel I could play at the highest level on New

549
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: Year's Day, it's probably Michigan Washington. This is no real

550
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Speaker 1: particular but maybe Michigan Washington, Texas, Alabama, because I think

551
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Book Oregan specifically said that he doesn't care when a

552
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: team beats a team. That's just the win. That's just

553
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: what exists when we're categorizing these teams. And so then

554
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Texas wins a conference, loses one game, beats Alabama by

555
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: ten on the road, they're head of Alabama. If you're

556
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Speaker 1: asking me who the best teams are based on what

557
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: they've done on the field, I really like teams that

558
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: go undefeated. Yeah, I really really do. I think winning

559
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: is harder than losing, and Florida State won much more

560
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Speaker 1: than they lost, and they won more than the teams

561
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Speaker 1: were comparing them against. We're including Alabama in this conversation

562
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Speaker 1: because of what because of what SEC teams did in

563
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: previous years. Right out, this Alabama team hasn't been undeniable

564
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: this year, just like this Texas team hasn't been undeniable

565
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: this year, just like this Florida State team hasn't been undeniable.

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Speaker 1: But we're giving Alabama this benefit of the doubt because

567
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Speaker 1: they beat Georgia, they snuck by Auburn, they snuck by Arkansas,

568
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: they snuck by Texas A and M, they snuck by USF.

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Speaker 1: And if it doesn't matter when they played, doesn't matter

570
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: that it was week two or three, Right, So I'm

571
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: not sure that we should all be automatically lumping Alabama

572
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: in just because they're a part of the big bad SEC.

573
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Speaker 1: So if you were to fast forward and tell me,

574
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Speaker 1: I know I'm just sucking up all the air in

575
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Speaker 1: this room, I apologize.

576
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Speaker 2: Go for it.

577
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Speaker 1: If you were to tell me that the committee says

578
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: one Michigan without a touchdown drive against Iowa. Two Washington

579
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Speaker 1: from the best conference in America, three Florida State for Texas,

580
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Speaker 1: I'd say, wow, that is surprising to me. I did

581
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: not expect this, but also.

582
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Speaker 2: Kind of get it, kind of get it, I mean,

583
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: kind of okay with it. There are a couple different

584
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: ends of this spectrum, right There is the Alabama should

585
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Speaker 2: be in because they are the SEC conference champion. There

586
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 2: is the Greg Sank model, which is, well, look at

587
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: how high quality our football is, we should put both

588
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: Alabama and Georgia in. You could probably make that case

589
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: if you want. Georgia is a two time defending champion.

590
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Speaker 2: Maybe not with the schedule or the resume, not with

591
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Speaker 2: this team, not with this not they It's a harder

592
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: case to make. He tried to make it, and then

593
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: on the I guess far extreme of that spectrum is

594
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Speaker 2: what you just mentioned, leaving him out, leaving the SEC

595
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Speaker 2: out entirely, which which of course would be you know,

596
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: cataclysmic in some circles of college football, and newsworthy at

597
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: worst in others. So, I mean, it's an incredible conversation

598
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Speaker 2: that I think the committee has to have. I really

599
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: struggle though, with, as you mentioned, the dilemma between a

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Speaker 2: team that won all of the games it was supposed

601
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Speaker 2: to win in a Power five conference. The on field

602
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: performance essentially the resume versus trying to project forward. Because

603
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: by every resume measure we have, Florida State deserves to

604
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: be in that playoff. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is, right, Yeah.

605
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: A team is offense, the team is defense, the team

606
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: is special teams. And when one side of that goes down.

607
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: We see it all the time. We talk about half

608
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: teams on this show until we're blue in the face

609
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: when we.

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Speaker 1: Beat the best half team in America.

611
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: LU, when one side of that team goes down, the

612
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: other has to pick it up. That's what That's what

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: a team game is. So Florida State, in by every

614
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Speaker 2: measure of that, deserves to be in the playoff. I

615
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: just don't see him beating any of those teams that

616
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: we talked about. I see it now with the back

617
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: of the quarterback. I don't see that happening. So that

618
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: to me is the dilemma, and that to me is

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Speaker 2: why I understand why Florida State should be in. But

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Speaker 2: I start talking myself into Michigan, Washington, Alabama and Texas

621
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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but do you Okay, So, if the committee is

623
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Speaker 1: tasked with picking the best four. You don't believe the

624
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: combination of resume and recent performance is enough for Florida State.

625
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: You don't believe that's. Look, you're not on the committee.

626
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: You're not in charge of picking the priorities that the

627
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: committee holds when selecting these teams. And so this is

628
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: just in your subjective heart what you want the playoff

629
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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 2: Subjectively, my struggle is, I don't think Florida State in

631
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: its present form defense in all but given their struggles

632
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: now on offense or challenges on offense by no fault

633
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: of their own through injury, which suck. I mean, this

634
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: whole thing sucks. Yeah, And I've been rooting for Florida

635
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: State this year, so I would like to see them, man,

636
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: I would like to see them have an opportunity to

637
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: prove that they are more than just this weird quarterback

638
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: situation that they find themselves in. So I don't want

639
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: to dunk on Florida State. I really like what they

640
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: have done this season. I just have serious doubts that

641
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to contend with a true

642
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: baller of a defense like Michigan. I mean, I just

643
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: don't see it. I don't see that happening. So for me,

644
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: that's sort of where I struggle with this and why

645
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: I would be inclined to put Bama or Texas in

646
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: over them.

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00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: Here's the other side of this, which I think is

648
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Speaker 1: more aligned with your thinking on this issue, is Florida

649
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: State earned an ACC championship. It is not their god

650
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Speaker 1: given right to be in the playoff because they went undefeated.

651
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Speaker 1: Like if the playoff is trying to yell from the

652
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Speaker 1: mountaintops that this is nuanced and this is about strength

653
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: of performance, and they're taking in a number of different factors,

654
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: and record and head to head are enormous factors, but

655
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: they're not everything. We've seen an undefeated team make the

656
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Speaker 1: playoff but be seated behind a team with a loss.

657
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Speaker 1: I think it was Oregon was ahead with one loss,

658
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Speaker 1: a twelve and one Oregon team was ahead of a

659
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Speaker 1: thirteen and oh Florida State team in that first playoff. Now,

660
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Speaker 1: the structure of the committee and what they weigh has

661
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Speaker 1: changed over time, but there is precedent for not just

662
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Speaker 1: rubber stamping and undefeated conference champion to whatever extent it's

663
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Speaker 1: seating is different than actually getting a berth but Florida

664
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Speaker 1: State earned an ACC championship. Beyond that, there's nothing I

665
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Speaker 1: don't believe in the playoff bylaws that say any undefeated

666
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Speaker 1: power conference team is automatically in.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't do that right because the hypothetically we could

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Speaker 1: have five in the current system. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: Florida State necessarily has that god given ability. I don't know,

671
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty dramatic term. I understand that they should

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Speaker 1: automatically be in because they went undefeated. Being undefeated is hard,

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Speaker 1: So I understand both points of view. I think the

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Speaker 1: best possible entertainment product includes Alabama and not Florida State

675
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: because quarterback is too important, and I am not a

676
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Speaker 1: believer in Tate Roddamaker on the same level that I'm

677
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: a believer in Jalen Milroe, JJ McCarthy, Quinn, Youewers, any

678
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks in this conversation.

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Speaker 2: It is an impossible conversation. It is truly impossible.

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Speaker 1: So you're on the committee, your official vote and seating

681
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Speaker 1: is what.

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Speaker 2: I would put. I mean, I might be inclined, but

683
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Speaker 2: Washington won Dan, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: With you, because of Michigan's performance tonight and beating a

685
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Speaker 1: top five ish team twice.

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Speaker 2: I probably go Michigan one. I probably go Washington two.

687
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Speaker 2: I think I put even though Texas beat Alabama, I

688
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Speaker 2: think I put Alabama three, and I put Texas for

689
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Speaker 2: and I put Florida stay.

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Speaker 1: I would put Texas won their conference and beat Alabama.

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Speaker 2: I think if they play again, Alabama wins.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm putting Well, look, I thought that about

693
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Speaker 1: Oregon ty and nobody was more wrong than I on

694
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Speaker 1: Friday night. The line of thinking is that Texas in

695
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Speaker 1: losing to Oklahoma might be worse than Alabama in losing

696
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Speaker 1: to Texas. Weirdly, but if you're comparing losses, Alabama has

697
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: the better loss, Texas has arguably the better win. Now

698
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: that Alabama has become its full flame zombie Alabama feasting

699
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: on the brains of all who come before it after

700
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Speaker 1: losing to Texas.

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Speaker 2: It was a wise investment by Texas to get in

702
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: early on beating Alabama when Alabama had its quarterback strife.

703
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Speaker 2: And I'm not blaming that for this, but it was

704
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: a different Alabama team. I frankly was a different Alabama team.

705
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Speaker 2: This version of Alabama is better.

706
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Speaker 1: It was literally last week that Alabama needed a miracle

707
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Speaker 1: to beat Auba.

708
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Speaker 2: Now, I know, weird rivalry stuff. Man, it's look.

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Speaker 1: Seven days it is.

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Speaker 2: It is very, very fitting that in this era of

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Speaker 2: college football where everything is about to change in a

712
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Speaker 2: tectonic way. The playoff system is going to be expanded,

713
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Speaker 2: we've got one whole conference that is going to be dissolved,

714
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Speaker 2: We've got, you know, all of these vast changes that

715
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Speaker 2: are happening around the sport. I guess you could say

716
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Speaker 2: it's very fitting that we have this incredible debate that

717
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Speaker 2: needs to take place among the selection committee. I would

718
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Speaker 2: not want to be on that selection committee. Poor boom

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Speaker 2: shot a Laca Corgan is going to be out there tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It's to be like the freaking red wedding in Game

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Speaker 2: of Thrones with him out there having to answer questions

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Speaker 2: and justify who they decide they're going to put in.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't envy that position, being the sacrificial

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Speaker 2: lamb on behalf of that committee. But we'll find out

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Speaker 2: at noon Eastern time. As you said, we'll go live

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Speaker 2: on YouTube and talk it through, and then we'll give

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Speaker 2: a full breakdown, of course, on the Tuesday podcast episode

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Speaker 1: Did you notice as a community how quickly we move

742
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: past Georgia? Is that weird at.

743
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: All to you? I wanted to go there with it next, Okay,

744
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: And that's that's sort of my point here, because it

745
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: is so weird that the two time defending national champion

746
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 2: has quickly become an afterthought by virtue of this loss.

747
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: It was a moment ago. It feels like a moment

748
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: ago that we were penciling them into this college football

749
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: playoff despite the fact that they were still less than

750
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: a touchdown favorite. I think it's hard to put Georgia

751
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: in this conversation by virtue of their schedule. I really

752
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: like Georgia. I really like Georgia as a football team.

753
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: I think they're probably gonna end up playing somebody like

754
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: a Louisville or whoever in the Orange Bowl. They will

755
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: win that game. Whoever they play, they will win, I'm

756
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: sure comfortably. But it does feel a bit dirty almost

757
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: that we've moved on so quickly from It doesn't it's weird.

758
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Speaker 1: It's they were kind of the wire wire number one,

759
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: although I think Ohio State was at number one for

760
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks when the playoff rankings started coming out.

761
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Georgia goes twelve to zero. They handle an Ole Miss

762
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: team that we know is at least pretty good. They

763
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: beat Missoo beat Tennessee. And you're right about the scheduling

764
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: in the non conference, and that is a difference with

765
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: Alabama because you have to also credit Alabama, even in

766
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: a losing effort, for scheduling that game. And it's a

767
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: home and home version as well, going to Austin last year,

768
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: I believe, and then hosting Texas this year, where Georgia

769
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: has the Oklahoma game get canceled, so that is part

770
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: of it when Oklahoma joins the conference. But ultimately you

771
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: look at the actual resume and this is Georgia's schedule.

772
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Speaker 1: And I saw Kirby after the game, sort of in

773
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: an exasperated manner, say, well, they say they want the

774
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Speaker 1: best teams. We're clearly one of the best teams after losing,

775
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: which is a tough, tough break to be in that position.

776
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Speaker 2: That's a tough spot. Kirby.

777
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just I wonder that, like is in

778
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Speaker 1: your mind, and this is not how the committee necessarily

779
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: evaluates it. This is just an exercise and conversation between

780
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Speaker 1: the two of us. Like, is Georgia one of the

781
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: actual four best teams in the sport? Like, I think

782
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: george is definitely better than the version of Florida State

783
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: we have on our hands. That's not a controversial thing

784
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: to say.

785
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: It's not controversial. No, No, I mean, I think, I think,

786
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Speaker 2: I almost think that Michigan and Georgia are two sides

787
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: of the same coin. Right. They feel very very similar

788
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: to me they did last year, and again it's it's

789
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: a similar play style.

790
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Speaker 1: I think Georgia has clearly more pop on offense ceiling

791
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: wise than Michigan. But I agree just philosophically.

792
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I think philosophically there's there's a lot of overlap there.

793
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: Obviously lost to Alabama today, but you know, you put

794
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: them up against Washington, that's an interesting matchup in terms

795
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: of defense against offense. You know, with how Washington controlled

796
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage against the Oregon they I think

797
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: they prove that they can win against a team that

798
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: we think is physical anyway, So maybe they're closer in

799
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: a matchup like that, But I still think Georgia would

800
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: probably be favored. Georgia will be favored against most of

801
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: these teams. Yeah, even if but again we play tomorrow,

802
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: they again the points.

803
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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

804
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Speaker 2: What? Friends don't mean anything right in this universe. But yeah,

805
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: it's it's an interesting conversation to be had, and I

806
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: would still probably be inclined to take Georgia if you

807
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: put them on a neutral field against any of these

808
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: teams that were that were discussing, well, not Alabama probably

809
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: not Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, they did enough to prove it today even though

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Speaker 1: it was a tight game, and maybe that's a fifty

812
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Speaker 1: to fifty game. You play that game one hundred times. Yeah,

813
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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. I think there is an eye

814
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: test element to Georgia. Even though you can say like

815
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: the SEC was overrated this year, their schedule didn't showcase

816
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Speaker 1: a ton you know, not having you know, for instance,

817
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: LSU this year, that would have gone a long way

818
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Speaker 1: to showing us what Georgia is or isn't. And that's

819
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Speaker 1: just the way the schedule worked out. I'm okay with

820
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Speaker 1: not having Georgia in this playoff, I really am.

821
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Speaker 2: Look, this was in effective playing game. It was in

822
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: effective playing game. And you know, next year, we probably

823
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: won't have this discussion. Next year, the conversation will be

824
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: whether or not these games matter, whether or not they've lost,

825
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: meaning they'll be playing for seeding and not necessarily qualification.

826
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Speaker 2: So it'll be a different world next year. As it

827
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: stands right now, if these are in fact playoff games,

828
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Speaker 2: if they are in fact supposed to mean something for

829
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: the postseason, then look, football is weird sports. Sometimes the

830
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: teams that we think are the best some teams. Sometimes

831
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Speaker 2: the teams that Vegas says would win seventy nine times

832
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: out of one hundred don't win, and they don't move on.

833
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: Just watch the NFL. It happens every year, right, So

834
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: it's okay, that's tournament football, that's tournament anything. And so yeah,

835
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Speaker 2: I for as good of a season that I think

836
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Speaker 2: Georgia had, for as good of a team and for

837
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Speaker 2: as talented as they are. If you're going to put

838
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: anybody in from the SEC, it's Alabama, and it's certainly

839
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: not two teams. It's not two SEC teams this.

840
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Speaker 1: Year, regardless of Greg Sankisa and bcs ERA or just

841
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: getting Michigan Washington and calling it today.

842
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: I guess it would almost be a crime. It would

843
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: be a crime, wouldn't.

844
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Speaker 1: It would be a crime to who, to whom, to anybody.

845
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Speaker 2: Outside of Michigan or Washington. Yeah, well they went undefeated.

846
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: I guess it's only Florida State. But it's easier to

847
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: leave Florida State out. If you're comparing that undefeated team,

848
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Speaker 2: you have a two thousand.

849
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Speaker 1: I hope I get the year right here. Was it

850
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Speaker 1: a two thousand and four situation where Auburn was left

851
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: out undefeated? That would have been an easy out ish

852
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: given Jordan Travis's injury. So, if I were a voting

853
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: member of the committee, and in my core, in my marrow,

854
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: I was tasked with finding the four teams that I

855
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: feel like would most accurately give me the opportunity to

856
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: find the best team. It would leave out Tate Ronamaker

857
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: in Florida State. If that's the true core of what

858
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: you're finding, you leave out Florida State. You include Oregon,

859
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: you include Louisville. Now it's I'm gonna go Washington, Michigan.

860
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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna go with Michigan, then Washington. I'm gonna

861
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Speaker 1: go Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama. Okay, and again I don't

862
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: think Texas is undeniable. I watched that Houston game, I

863
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: watched that TCU game. They're not undeniable. Which is kind

864
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: of a great thing about this year that none of

865
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: the you know, Washington has their squeakers, Michigan has their

866
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: weird end to the season, and they have the Harbough thing.

867
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: They have obviously the sign stealing allegations hovering over the program.

868
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: Alabama has some squeakers, and that makes the year kind

869
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: of incredible. We did you don't have an undeniable LSU

870
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Georgia. For the past couple of years. That's great.

871
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: We did not have the level of chaos that we

872
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: thought we might have given. Remember, at the start of

873
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: the year, all the new quarterbacks, there's a lot of

874
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: uncertainty among especially in the sec right new new starting quarterbacks.

875
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: What is that going to mean? We did not have

876
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: quite the level of chaos that I think we thought

877
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: we might have. But what we ended up with was

878
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: essentially a panel of like seven to eight top teams,

879
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: none of which are bulletproof. And that in and of

880
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: itself was a change as compared to previous years, where

881
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: we thought we could pencil in Georgia, who are Alabama?

882
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: Even in years past, you couldn't really pencil anybody in

883
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: maybe outside of Michigan. Michigan was kind of like, you know,

884
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: the solid team throughout the course of the season, despite

885
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: all the other stuff that went on with them. They

886
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: will have another opportunity, obviously to prove their their medal

887
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: here in the collegeot Ball Playoff, the Michigan Wolverines.

888
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: Any any closing thought, I mean, look, there were other games.

889
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: There were other games, and I wanted to give a

890
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: shout out to our brothers and sisters over at the

891
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: G five because it was a great weekend of games

892
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: on the Group of five level as well. I mean,

893
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: for as much as we talk about the playoff, or

894
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: as much as we talk about, you know, the uncertainty there.

895
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: There is some uncertainty around which of the G five

896
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: teams is going to get the New Year six Bowl

897
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: slot because Tulane lost, which means that either Liberty thirteen

898
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: to oh Liberty, which had like maybe the worst schedule

899
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 2: of a any's even FBS Liberty or SMU is going

900
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: to end up getting that Bowl berth Liberty won on

901
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Friday night, and it was a good game. It was

902
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: forty nine thirty five the Conference USA championship game over

903
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: New Mexico State. No defense. There was no defense in

904
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: this game. It was close until the final quarter, but

905
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: absolute pinball stats seven hundred and twelve yards for Liberty,

906
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: three to ninety three on the ground for the Flames,

907
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: four ninety nine in total yardage for New Mexico State.

908
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: Then you had the interesting circumstance of Diego Pavia, the

909
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: quarterback for New Mexico State, who didn't practice during the

910
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: week because of a shoulder injury, but did play in

911
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: this game through three touchdowns and ran for a score

912
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: before getting hurt again and not returning. Just a crazy,

913
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: crazy offensive game. As Liberty pulls away late in the

914
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, they become the first team from the state

915
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: of Virginia to win thirteen games. Interesting interesting enough in

916
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: a college football season, So Liberty has a claim to

917
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: that new year sixth throwne. Also, SMU SMU knocked off

918
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: Tulane in the American Championship twenty six to fourteen in

919
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: what I would call a big boy win. This is

920
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: a big boy win because they lost Preston Stone and

921
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: they had to plug in Kevin Jennings, their backup quarterback.

922
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 2: A very low key Florida State situation here. Kevin Jenning

923
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: steps in through two picks, but his ability to extend

924
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: plays in this American Championship was really exciting. He accounts

925
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: for two hundred and sixty six total yards. Definitely a

926
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: lot of promise there at the quarterback spot. The story, though,

927
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: was the SMU defense. SMU came into this game up

928
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: against Tulane squad that simply had been there before. To

929
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Lane's a known quantity in college football circles. They sacked

930
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: Michael Pratt seven times and they held to Lane to

931
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: a fifteen, excuse me on third downs. So SMU came

932
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: in with a very very solid defense, even though previous

933
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: versions of SMU were known more for offense. This is

934
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: a very very good defensive football team and it showed

935
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: in this matchup. Twenty six to fourteen was your final

936
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: over two leans. So one of those two teams is

937
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: going to go and play one of the other teams

938
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: that we just got done discussing because the way the

939
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: New Year six is set up. The other action on

940
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: the G five level, we have Miami of Ohio over

941
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Toledo twenty three to fourteen. I predicted that Toledo was

942
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: going to win this game twenty four to thirteen, so

943
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: it was really close to the score. I just got

944
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: the eventual winner wrong. Miami completed six passes in total,

945
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: six of sixteen, but ran for close to two hundred yards.

946
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: This was a bizarre game. This was a very bizarre game.

947
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: It was defined by jumped out, defined by special teams,

948
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: by defense, ultimately by a Jason Kandall Toledo team that

949
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: frankly looked out coach and underprepared Miami. Miami just wanted

950
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: it more. It was like kickblocks and block kicks and

951
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: kick returns and that sort of thing, all that stuff

952
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: that Miami needed to win a game like this. They

953
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: got from the.

954
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Weather to Kwon Finn and some crazy plays that he

955
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: was in the midst of making.

956
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was crazy in and of itself. A

957
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: nice win for Miami to win the MAC. The Mountain

958
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: West is its own storyline altogether, because Boise ends up

959
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: winning this thing forty four to twenty. Now, it was

960
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: a home game for UNLV. They played an elitied stadium

961
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. The first half was nuts, Like everything

962
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: in this game went for a touchdown in the first half.

963
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: Boise State, though, winning this a few weeks after firing

964
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: its coach is kind of wild. It's kind of what

965
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: it's unprecedented. Yeah, it's unpresent. It's kind of wild that

966
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: they fired him in the first place. Then how they

967
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: got into this game via computer rankings, then the showing

968
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: that they put forth after losing the code. This was

969
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: Taylor Green's best game in his career. He looked awesome.

970
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty just dude caliber runs. I think he was

971
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: one of our dudes. We'll get to that here momentarily.

972
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Boise just kicked their ass. Is straight up kick their ass.

973
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: Went to Las Vegas. They kicked their ass. They've been

974
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: there before. They showed that they've been there before. That

975
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: was really worth there twice ty absolutely and then last

976
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 2: but certainly not least, we can talk about what Troy

977
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: did in the Sun Belt game. Forty nine to twenty

978
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: three was the final. That score is a little bit

979
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: misleading because this was twenty eight or twenty one, excuse me,

980
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: to seventeen going into the fourth quarter. Troy scored twenty

981
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: eight points in the fourth quarter. They just poured it on.

982
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: They just played bully ball throughout the second half. They

983
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: beat app States brains in They rushed for two seventy

984
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: one on the ground. Kamani Vidal, they're running back maybe

985
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: a possible dude nominee here had two seventy two thirty

986
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: three on the ground. Of that two seventy one and Troy,

987
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: Troy puts the kapper on a really nice season in

988
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: the Sun Belt. So kudos to all of the those

989
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: G five teams on their victories. Will see where things

990
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: stack up as it relates to bolseason.

991
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Agree on all counts.

992
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,080
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996
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997
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998
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,080
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999
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,840
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1000
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: who don't just parrot hot takes of the day. Thank

1001
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1003
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: A great Absolutely agree you want to give in some dudes.

1004
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Speaker 3: Some players are good, some are great, and some are

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00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:59,799
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1006
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Speaker 2: Each and every reaction show. And I don't know We're

1007
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: gonna keep doing dues because we like doing this dude segment. Yeah,

1008
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: we give out the gold, Silver and the Bronze Dude

1009
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,399
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1010
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: What do you got for me this week? Dan?

1011
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: All right, my bronze is was it? Tatum bethoone Tatum Bethune,

1012
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Florida State almost comes up with an interception in the

1013
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: end zone and then comes up with an interception in

1014
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: the end zone after I believe Florida State has their

1015
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: punter tackled on a great punt block situation, Louisville looking

1016
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: to capitalize with a tiny little field and Florida State's

1017
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: defense comes up big in that moment. The silver goblet

1018
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give to Dylan Johnson of Washington. Just absolute

1019
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: dude and as good as we've seen and great as

1020
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: we've seen Washington through the airplay all you most of

1021
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: this season, and they were there, you know, Michael Pennix

1022
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: to Jalen McMillan and romadonsay, it really was what Washington

1023
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: was able to do on the ground, ten to fifteen

1024
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: on third downs, great in the red zone. Dylan Johnson

1025
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: an absolute warrior there. And then the Golden Dude of

1026
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: the week Quinn Yours for absolutely having his best game.

1027
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: It's Oklahoma State, but having his best game when they

1028
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: absolutely needed it. The running game really wasn't there by

1029
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: and large. Kielan Robinson got loose for a couple of

1030
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: big plays, but this wasn't a balanced Texas attack in

1031
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: that the running game was complementing Quin Yours for four quarters.

1032
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: It was Ady Mitchell downfield. I saw Xavier Worthy goes down.

1033
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: I think it's an ankle injury. But JT. Sanders steps

1034
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: up and Quinn yours underrated in his and he did

1035
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: it against Alabama earlier in the year. Throws a beautiful

1036
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: Techmo Super Bowl ball, leaves the top of the screen,

1037
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: dips back in, throws a big, impressive arcing deep ball

1038
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: that sort of comes into the rain baker. He throws it,

1039
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: and he had He had a couple of beauties today

1040
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: for Texas and really stepped up. Not that Texas was

1041
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: likely going to be playing a close game. I know,

1042
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: I picked Oklahoma State to cover because of Gundy pixie

1043
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: dust against Texas, but he was just he was This

1044
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: is my word of the day. He was undeniable for

1045
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: the Longhorns.

1046
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to give an honorable dude mentioned to

1047
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: I believe his name was Ryan Georgia, at least that's

1048
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: how it sounded on the broadcast from the University of

1049
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania who needed to go into double overtime to win

1050
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: his tuition throw in the Big twelve game. Now, the

1051
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: tuition throw, get that paper. The tuition throw is one

1052
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: of our favorite aspects of college football Championship Week. They

1053
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: do more of them now than ever before. The chess pass,

1054
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 2: of course, is a controversial move. I have never seen

1055
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: one before that went into what they called the shootout mode,

1056
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: essentially a double overtime tie breaker, or they had to

1057
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: alternate back and forth. They didn't move them back, they

1058
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: didn't make them kick extra points.

1059
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: They didn't wanted them to run the forty and just

1060
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: have somebody go down with a hammy at twenty eight

1061
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: yards down, goes Mike.

1062
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: I would love to see a different spin on the tiebreaker.

1063
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: I can't remember any of them ever going that deep

1064
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: into this thing. But Ryan from the University of Pennsylvania

1065
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: emerged as the tuition throw winner in the Big Twelve games.

1066
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: Just having to do like a sobriety test where they're

1067
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: like touching their nose on the twenty yard line.

1068
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: They have to do it next time, playing dizzy bat

1069
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: first and then yeah, something like that. But maybe doctor

1070
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: Pepper can work on the tiebreaker methodology. Nonetheless, congratulations to

1071
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: that guy for winning one hundred grand.

1072
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: I think speak with your chest, throw with your chest,

1073
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: get that paper, do what you gotta do.

1074
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: Both of them ended up getting the hundred grand, which

1075
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: was I saw that a nice gesture from from doctor Pepper. Again,

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Speaker 2: As we said again, we'll be going live shortly after

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Speaker 2: the playoff rankings are officially announced on our YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: We would encourage everybody to stop by, give their commentary,

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Speaker 2: offer their feedback, etc. Etc. Will certainly be a lively discussion.

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Speaker 2: we need to get some sleep because it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a very very busy day tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: A right, I cannot wait for tomorrow, So it'll be

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Speaker 1: around what one is eastern when we're gonna go live

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Speaker 1: on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: We'll schedule it one eastern.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great, can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: Go over there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein for myself,

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you all one pm Sunday afternoon. Stay solid, peace,