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Speaker 1: Well, hello Brindoz and welcome into cleaning up right here

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Speaker 1: on Fantasy Pros, the discord only show. And if you

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Speaker 1: It's devastating news. You know, the anger that is going

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Speaker 1: to come from this. What is the reason? No one knows?

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Speaker 1: the baseball podcast Home Run Calls, which we did find out,

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Speaker 1: can come and chat with you guys, hang out and

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Speaker 1: this becomes a podcast and you can live in podcast infamy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you would say. You can be famous,

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Speaker 1: you can be on the podcast with us. So anyone

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Speaker 1: wants to talk, well, bring it on up. Oh look

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Speaker 1: at this is this Joe piece of phpis Pa just

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Speaker 1: raised his hand. If Joe starts talking here, it would

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Speaker 1: be glorious. I think I just accepted it, Joe. So

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Speaker 1: but you guys can raise your hand, and you guys

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, there it is. It is dude. Why

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Speaker 1: is it every week I do this whole setup of

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. Every week we feel like we figure

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Speaker 2: out why this isn't working, and then every week it's

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Speaker 2: some other reason. And now I'm just doing this on

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Speaker 2: my phone, so it probably sounds like crap or whatever.

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Speaker 2: We're still doing it. Anyway. We're here on the show.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I forgot to do this. There

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Speaker 2: in September? First jokes here, Paul Steins. Did you see

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Speaker 2: the results of that.

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Speaker 1: Pole I did. I was actually going to bring it

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Speaker 2: Well, they were pretty good. Why don't you give the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can pull it up. So who

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Speaker 1: Skeins or Joey p sixty two percent? Paul Skins.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how it goes. Here were some

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Speaker 1: comments earlier, by the way, Joe I wanted to present

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw everything. I'm in there. It's

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Speaker 2: I saw that too. I see and I heard. Though

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Speaker 2: It's a weird part is I'm in there and I

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Speaker 2: It's like that episode of South Park where Cartman thinks

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Speaker 2: You're running point today. I'm just hanging out here with

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where all the comments are.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a whole lot of like Ellie stuff today.

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Speaker 1: I'm at with it, Joe, are you have you settled

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Speaker 1: And I think consistency is the difference between him being

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Speaker 1: He didn't say I think it's redraft. But I see

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Speaker 2: I just want the Bobby Wit side.

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Speaker 2: Like he's the solution to everyone's problem.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, he is one hundred percent. Michael ass is David

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Speaker 2: He's twenty eight, so, like, I don't know if that

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Speaker 2: but he's still been hurt all this time. I think

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Speaker 2: sell hard on Langford. I'd be really kicking the tires

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in dynasty, I'm I'm completely with you on that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm trying to trade for him

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Speaker 1: Like that's I don't I don't feel optimistic, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Huge, I'm a huge niche guy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, uh So cow Kid had a he wants us

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Speaker 1: to settle a debate. Side one receive, So Side one

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Speaker 1: received trout, Real, Muto, and Hoskins. Side two receives Snell,

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Speaker 1: Evan Phillips. I'm gonna guess Mikel Garcia because he just

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Speaker 1: put Garcia, Vinnie P and Wilson Contreras who won this trade.

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Speaker 1: hurt on side one. Side two Snell, Phillips, Mikel, Vinnie P,

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Speaker 1: Contreller Man.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of which contrast William or Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Side one only has one active player on this list,

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Speaker 1: so that makes it a little bit tough.

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Speaker 2: A gosh. I mean, my initial instinct says the trout

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Speaker 2: Maybe you want Phillips returning and Blake Snell. I mean

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Speaker 2: a lot of that has to do with roster construction,

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Speaker 2: where do you land on this one? I think I

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Speaker 1: I think it's side too, because like you got I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Contreras, I think, than roal Muto or

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Speaker 1: Vinny p maybe on par Ish with Hoskins, and then

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Speaker 1: you got Snell Snell trout. Like I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't I think in two months, side one looks better,

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Speaker 2: Kind of even. I'm surprised that trade like that can

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Speaker 2: bunch of your crap. So you're just you're just switching

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Speaker 2: up Snell. Like let's say everybody's healthy, right, Let's let's

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Speaker 2: What side of that trade do you like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you think of like that, Michael said Welsh.

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Speaker 1: and leading off. You ever give public opinions on them

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I like collecting stuff. I my Patreon. Actually

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Speaker 1: Though I have felt Joe, we should get a hobby pros.

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Speaker 1: We should make hobby pros here like we have betting pros.

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Speaker 1: to move things around and see if you guys pick

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Speaker 1: up on like the new things, like all the I

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Speaker 1: don't do dramatic ones. I probably need to do more

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Speaker 1: dramatic ones. But I'll add something, or i'll move something over,

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Speaker 1: I'll make something more visible. So be on the lookout

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Speaker 1: for the easter eggs of the cards. But yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you've got questions, I'll help you out on there. Psych

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Speaker 1: Psycho out twenty four. Aaron says, oh no, this is

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Speaker 1: like responding said, maybe goin Goussman or Webb. Who do

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Speaker 1: you like bett rest of the season, By the way,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman or Web.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you ask me this in February would

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Speaker 2: be zero hesitation. Kevin Gosman. But I don't know, Man

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Speaker 2: Gosmin has not looked like Gosman this year. Web was

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Speaker 2: pretty good yesterday' I know, I was like still prisoner

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Speaker 2: of the moment with these things. But I think I'm

446
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Speaker 2: leaning towards Web, which again I can't believe I'm saying that,

447
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Speaker 2: but just something feels wrong about like Gosmin does not

448
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Speaker 2: look like the same dominant pitcher so far this year

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Speaker 2: that he was last year. Do you agree or disagree?

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Speaker 1: No, he doesn't at all. I talked with Eno and

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Speaker 1: we were talking about gosmeey oh, you know I never

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Speaker 1: brought this up here.

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Speaker 2: You know the ways is over five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's horrific. And I had brought up

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Speaker 1: looking at look at a web. I did have a

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Speaker 1: good start. I think that was one people were getting

457
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Speaker 1: on my case about in the trade video, like I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to pick guys that you guys maybe get

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Speaker 1: off of. But I was talking with Ino about, you know,

460
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Speaker 1: my obsession with Shota Imonaga and being a two pitch pitcher,

461
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Speaker 1: and I can't like get over that. I'd asked him,

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Speaker 1: is there any other pitcher that he's seen be really

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Speaker 1: hyper successful that utilizes a fastball and a splitter And

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Speaker 1: he said Gosmin, And I forgot about that. That Goslin

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Speaker 1: is that those are his two primary pitches. It just

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Speaker 1: isn't working this year. But he actually viewed goss as

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Speaker 1: a by low. I guess I would probably just either

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Speaker 1: whichever one of these guys is like more cost efficient.

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Speaker 1: I think Web is less efficient.

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Speaker 2: But I'm another thing too out there with Gossman when

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Speaker 2: you're looking at him too, like the you know, the

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Speaker 2: tryge's trying to bring up the twenty twenty four stats. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the kper nine for Gosmans from eleven point five last

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Speaker 2: year to nine this year. That's a big drop. Like

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Speaker 2: that's yeah again going from dominant to very good. But

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Speaker 2: still a lot of things, a lot of things out

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Speaker 2: there were Gossman's with more questions and answers, and he

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Speaker 2: was dealing with an injury in the spring like it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like he didn't. I feel like he is not

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent and he's pitching through it and that

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Speaker 2: never ends.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, no, a couple of quick kids here

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here, should Jason said, should

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Speaker 1: I drop Braxton Garrett for Brandon fought in a head

486
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Speaker 1: to head redraft six by six league? Yes? Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked, I can't. I can't see their full name,

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Speaker 1: but they said, did I miss the fot hammer dropped

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Speaker 1: by Welsh today? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You did? You? Yeah? Think you did? Go back and

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Speaker 2: watch them the YouTube would.

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Speaker 1: You drop Springer, Langford, Kowser or Cheerio when Bobby Miller

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Speaker 1: comes off the il and Redraft.

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Speaker 2: Give me those Springer, Kowser, Langford or Cheerio. Cheerio is

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Speaker 2: probably the first guy in Redraft off the island, I think,

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Speaker 2: don't you think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Trying too if you want to hang on, Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: Springer's deserved it to get dropped too. But again, the

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Speaker 2: name brand guy, I have more faith in him turning

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Speaker 2: things around. I think Cheerio could easily get sent down

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Speaker 2: again at any given moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably too. By the way, your Mets are

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Speaker 1: up right now, your Mets are winning a game.

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Speaker 2: You excited? Stop no, because I want I want Kintana

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Speaker 2: to give up burned runs.

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Speaker 1: So I want this game to go two to nothing

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Speaker 1: towards the end so Read Garrett can come in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So here's a question, Joe, I know we gotta go.

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Speaker 1: We do have one.

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Speaker 2: Personally, my worst mood tomorrow if Kintana goes like six

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Speaker 2: shutout anythings and read Garrett gets a save, like, that's

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Speaker 2: my nightmare.

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Speaker 1: We I know we got to go here. In a second,

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Speaker 1: do you have time for we have one person that

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Speaker 1: wants to come up on stage. Do you have time

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Speaker 1: for that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, here we go. I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: think I think Joe disappeared, so all right, uh T,

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Speaker 1: I can't see the full I don't know why I

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Speaker 1: see these abbreviated names. But Tea requested to come up,

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Speaker 1: so I have allowed you. So you need to come up.

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Speaker 1: Tea going once. Who are you a tea guy or

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Speaker 1: coffee guy or any of them? I not like any

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: Definitely a coffee guy.

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Speaker 1: You're a coffee guy, Joe or coffee or especially.

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Speaker 3: First off, I love the show, guys. Thanks Kay, been

530
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Speaker 3: keeping up for for a while now. Awesome job, guys,

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Speaker 3: Thanks brother, what you guys?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a real quick question. I'm in a

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Speaker 3: head to head a redraft league. I got three guys

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Speaker 3: on the waiver that I'm interested. I watched the video

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Speaker 3: on picking up new Bar. He's been kind of going

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Speaker 3: off before his ejection. Also, yeah, I love new Bar.

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Speaker 2: I was a big fan of his last two weeks

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Speaker 2: to pick him up because you started to see him

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Speaker 2: turn things around. Now he's right hot and he's still

541
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Speaker 2: veiled on fifty league. Wash go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I got Gorman on the waiver and someone

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Speaker 3: just dropped the Dansby as well, So I was wondering,

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Speaker 3: one of those three.

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Speaker 2: Guys, who should I pick up? Labor got one spot love.

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Speaker 1: So it's Dansby, Gorman and a new Bar. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: probably personally would go newt Bar. I think Dansby's the

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Speaker 1: one from name value that gets picked up, but there's

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Speaker 1: been some struggles. I'm not interested in Gorman. I'm massively

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Speaker 1: interested in Newbar. Actually, we did a so rare video

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Speaker 1: that I talked about him. I was talking about him

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Speaker 1: on a guest spot yesterday as well. Hard to hit

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Speaker 1: metrics across the board look good. He's barreling the ball

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Speaker 1: better and that's always been his key. It's about hitting

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Speaker 1: hard fly balls to the pole side, and he's starting

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Speaker 1: to do that more and he's getting in prominent parts

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Speaker 1: of the lineup. So I'm pretty bullish on new Bar.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be my choice. What about you, Joe?

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Speaker 2: I agree sign off on the New Bar. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's doing everything he could possibly ask for.

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Speaker 2: Got pop. He's gonna hit for some decent batting average.

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Speaker 2: He's getting every day playing time. I'm allay in on

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Speaker 2: the new bar.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're in with the new car. Thanks brother, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening, keep coming and hanging out. Love it. I

567
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Speaker 1: can't see names of anybody's name. Everybody's an initial to me?

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Joe?

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Speaker 1: Tell me?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just I'm just happy to somehow

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Speaker 2: be here in some capacity. And I am furious that

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Speaker 2: once again Discord continues to hate me. I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: but it does.

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Speaker 1: But guess what, it loves all of you. And uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful, beautiful thing because we get to chat

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Speaker 1: with you guys. So make sure you guys check it out.

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Speaker 1: Go on to fantasypros dot com slash cleaning up to

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Speaker 1: come straight into the show, or go to fantasypros dot

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Speaker 1: awesome fun premium offerings that we've got you can have

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Speaker 1: access to us. You guys have also built an insanely

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Speaker 1: cool community to yourselves, whether it's in the chat for

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Speaker 1: leading off or here. Play of people are doing that

585
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Speaker 1: with you know, talking about who should I do this?

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Speaker 1: Calls blah blah blah. People are answering questions it's pretty great,

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Speaker 1: so go and check it out. When you do it,

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Speaker 1: you know you guys are absolutely supporting. Thank you to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Joe had to run out here, but

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Speaker 1: thank you to everybody for hanging out with us. And

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Speaker 1: make sure you're checking out leading off Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty pm Eastern. Sometimes we drop the hammer, Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I drop the hammer.

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Speaker 2: That's how we roll.

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Speaker 1: Alright, guys, that's it for Joe. It's Welsh. We're out

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Speaker 1: of here. Talk to you next time.

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Speaker 2: Peace,