1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Hello, Texans. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: We're here in Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine. We 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: do it every year shows from Indy and just to 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: set the scene for you a bit. You think of 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: the combine, you think of what you see on television 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: with guys running the forty and doing drills, and that 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: has not yet started. But players are here doing interviews 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: with teams. Those are quick. We'll be hearing about those 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: with Damiko Ryans, who we will hear from in just 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: a moment here. Nick Cassario is going to join us 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: on the Wednesday night show and numerous other members of 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: the Texans organization and national and local media members representing 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: the AC South markets. A whole bunch of stuff coming 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: your way. National perspective with James Palmer of NFL Network, 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: former Houston reporter for CSN Houston, that's what it was 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: called back in the day, but he's been with NFL 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Network for a while, so he's going to join us 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: in segment two. And what's happening in the first couple 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: of days NFL coaches and gms meet with the media. 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: These interviews are going on with the players behind the 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: scenes with the various teams. Tons of media here. It's 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: like an NFL convention that takes over the entire city 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: of Indianapolis. And we kick off our coverage with the 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: head coach of your Texans, Demico Ryans coach. 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Great to see you, Great to see you guys. 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: All right since we last had our visits to conclude 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: the season, Zuri born. Congratulations, new baby. I'm going so far. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: Girl, it's going great. I still want she's the calmness 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: of all the kids. So oh, that's nice. 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: You give her a bottle. 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: She's out for three hours, so she's very calm, beautiful 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: baby girl. Thankful for Jamila for all this he did 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: to go through the burthing process. He did an excellent job. 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: So excited to have number four. 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna joke that, you know, some coaches have 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: missed a combine, but you with a newborn, there's no 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: way you're missing a combine. 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Good night's sleep every night. 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 4: I gotta go by, I gotta go. 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: I. 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: I've asked you this before, and I want to go 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: into a little bit more. Your kids need a chance 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: to see you as a player. But we always have 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 5: our interview after the game, and for the Browns game, 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 5: they were all sitting in there and I mean they 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 5: were incredible, and your wife was in there. 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: What does it mean to you to have them be 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: able to. 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: Watch you as a coach lead this team as they're 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: sitting there as kids And obviously there are kids of 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 5: an age that like, everything you're doing is so impressionable 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: to them. 53 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: What's it been like for you to have them watch 54 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: you each and every week? 55 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's been It's been huge, man, Because as 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: a player, right when I was a young player and 57 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: I would see the older players and they would have 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: their kids around. I remember like out on the field 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: tossing the ball with their kids, and I'm like, oh, man, 60 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: this is a special moment. 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: I know is a moment they will always remember. 62 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: And for me, you know, getting done playing like my 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: last year MJ was born, so not being able to 64 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: do it as a player, but being made able to 65 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: come back as a coach. 66 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: And have them around, allowing them to see, like. 67 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: What I do, what I enjoy doing when Daddy's going 68 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: to work, this is what it looks like. And to 69 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: see how excited they are and how into it they are. Man, 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: I got MJ. Now, hey, hey, let's watch this corner. 71 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 4: MJ. 72 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: What do you think like he thinks. It's my little 73 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: scout right there. So it's fun that they are into football. 74 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: Even baby girl, Zia, she's into football as well. So 75 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: it's fun having him around. And I'm thankful just for 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: this organization. And so I always loved about this place. 77 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: You can feel that family environment, and I wanted to 78 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: make su your man. Kids bring life. They bring energy 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: to a place, and I want them around as much 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: as it can. 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: Well, this business is all about wins and losses, we know, 82 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: but you were very clear during your introductory press conference, 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: which is over a year ago now that you want 84 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: your guys to be better fathers and better men and 85 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: better husbands. 86 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: And all of that. 87 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: How do you feel that part of it is going 88 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: because you must be marking time and marking progress in 89 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: that department too. 90 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going really well, all right. 91 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: And I look at our guys and when I look 92 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: at what guys do in the community, right what guys 93 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: do off the field. I was able to highlight a 94 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: lot of guys right throughout the year and our team 95 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: meeting when they did something in the community, whether it's 96 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: Christmas giveaway for kids, Thanksgiving drives and give away you know, 97 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: being able to highlight them and show that importance, right 98 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: being showing up for the veterans, right supporting those guys, 99 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 3: being able to highlight those guys in a team meeting, 100 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: to show that it's not only about football x'es and o's, 101 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: it's about this right impacting others. And I always want 102 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: to make sure that's an emphasis. And we had a 103 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: lot of guys who became fathers right for the first 104 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: time throughout the year. I remember Man our first win 105 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: of the season, donat their gnard. You know, he's trying 106 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: to hustle out of the locker room because he's having 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: the birth of his baby girl. And just to see 108 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: the excitement of our guys and to see, you know, 109 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: the smiles of becoming a father and knowing how that 110 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: feels and how let them know, Man, get out of here. 111 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: It's important for me to make sure our guys are 112 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: there at their kids' birth and make sure they show 113 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: up as fathers. 114 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Coach. 115 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: Being back here at the Combine at kind of a 116 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 5: stamped time last year, at this time, it's the first 117 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 5: time I ever met you, which is a great day 118 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: for me meeting you the first time and then watching 119 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: you with this team and this organization every single week was. 120 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: Just it was incredible. 121 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: But for you when you think about what you knew 122 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 5: about being a head coach back then and what you 123 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 5: know now after a year. I mean, obviously no coach 124 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 5: is ever going to tell you they know everything, but 125 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: just what's been the biggest change for you? What was 126 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: kind of something that for you during the year you're like, WHOA, 127 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 5: I didn't really know about this, man, Okay, I gotta 128 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 5: do this better in twenty twenty four. I got to 129 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: do this better in the future, or this is you 130 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: know something that I changed during the year that worked. 131 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: Was something like that for you in this first year 132 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: as your head coach. 133 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think first off was just this time around, 134 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm not going through the process of hiring coaches and 135 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: getting It's like, man, it was really people say, drinking 136 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: from a fire hose. It was just like so much 137 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: can become overwhelming at time at times that first year. 138 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: But as we've grown throughout, as we went throughout the year, 139 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: for me and going into this year, I think it's 140 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: just important for me to grow in the aspect of 141 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: making sure I do a better job of coaching our 142 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: coaches more and spend a lot of time with the 143 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: players trying to make sure they get it and understand it. 144 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: But for me as a leader and as development of 145 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: the coaches, right, and you have that one aspect of 146 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: developing players, But for me, I want to see myself 147 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: growing in regards of making sure I develop our coaches right, 148 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: and that's where I want to lean heavy into going 149 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: into this offseason and into the year. 150 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: What is it like when you watch your coaches interview 151 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: for other jobs, like Bobby Slowk interviewing for head coaching 152 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: jobs and you went through that obviously and Gerrod Johnson 153 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: coordinator jobs. What was that like for you watching that? 154 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: And really you have some control because maybe can say, hey, 155 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: come on back and be nice, it'll be better, but 156 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: they have a chance to advance their career as well, 157 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: and however it works out is how it works out. 158 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: But what was that like? 159 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a weird predicament because it's on one hand, 160 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, well, we just we're just getting started, 161 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: like you can't go right now. But then it's also 162 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: the side of me is I just want the best 163 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: for everyone, and I want to see them grow and 164 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: become a head coach so it's like one side, I'm 165 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: excited for Bobby and I'm fired up, and his other 166 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: side is like, oh, man, I hope he doesn't get 167 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: it because I don't want to change offensive coordinator. So 168 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: it's a huge balance there. But I'm and I still 169 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: support all those guys. Gerard, he was going up for 170 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator positions. Man, I support those guys and want 171 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: them to go up, go off and really grow in 172 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: their careers and be the best that they can be, 173 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: become the leaders that I know they are. But I'm 174 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: also ecstatic that we're able they were able to stay 175 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: here right, and we can have some continuity on our 176 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: staff and we continue to grow as a staff, because 177 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of things that we 178 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: can get better at on the offensive side, defensive side, 179 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: but we can get better as a coaching staff, right, 180 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: And to have those guys going at it for a 181 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: second time around, I think we're going to be much 182 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: better and our players will see that, our coaches will 183 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: be better, and our players will be able to benefit 184 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: from our coaches being better. 185 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: You kind of stole my thunder Courses and ask you 186 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: about the continuity for players When you were a player, 187 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: and you had the same position coach for a few 188 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: years as a coordinator, spoke the same language. 189 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: How much value, how much value for a player? 190 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: Was that when you were a player and how much 191 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: do you see that for your players in twenty twenty 192 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: four and beyond. 193 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's huge value when you have the same guy 194 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: coming back, because now when you start a new year, 195 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: you're not worried about. 196 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: Oh, let me get to know this coach, r is this? 197 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: Oh does he really? Is he really here for me? 198 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: You're trying to figure each other out, right, And now 199 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: we don't have that figuring out period. 200 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Right. 201 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: Our players know right that Bobby is here to make 202 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: sure they are their best. He has their best interest 203 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: at our Gerard wants to make sure that the quarterbacks 204 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: play their absolute best. Right, And so you get that 205 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: out of the way, and now we can really focus on, 206 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: right those axes and those of getting better at what 207 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: we need to get better at on the field, but 208 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: also the relation piece. I think it just grows, right 209 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: and you become really tight with your position coach, right, 210 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: and that's the guy that you spend the most time with, 211 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: a guy who has a guy who's really trusting in you. 212 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: Guys who's really his job is on the line is 213 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: because of you. So those guys are intertwined and they 214 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: continue to grow and have a really great relationship the 215 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 3: second time around. 216 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: All Right, So it's the combine. It's draft season, but 217 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: it's also free agency season coming up. The league year 218 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: is about to start a couple of weeks, coach, and 219 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: you have over thirty free agents to be what about 220 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: that part of it and the conversations you have with 221 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: Nick and how to go about all of that because 222 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: there are a lot of moving parts here and how 223 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: you can set up and build the twenty twenty four Texans. 224 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: Right when I look at my board and I started 225 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: to take down all of our free agents, I'm like, 226 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, we got a lot of holes to 227 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: feel on this roster. But it starts with right trying 228 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: to get your guys back, And that's where it starts. 229 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Right. 230 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: Everybody can get enamored about other players or the other 231 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: places or you instantly you get this player, he's gonna 232 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: help your team will not necessarily so, right, And so 233 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: I think there is strategy involved in making sure you 234 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: acquire the right person who can help your team. 235 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: And what is. 236 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: Knowing the biggest thing in free agency is knowing the 237 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: right knowing the role and where does that player fit 238 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: in what you're doing. Like you can just go and 239 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: get guys, but what's his role for the Texas and 240 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: how is he gonna help the twenty twenty four Texans. 241 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: That's the important piece. 242 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: But you got to start with, you know, making sure 243 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: we try to get some of our guys back is 244 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: no certainty there. 245 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: We would love to have all of our guys back because. 246 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: We know who they are, we know what they can 247 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: do right, and we know the type of playmakers they are, 248 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: So we would like to have those guys back, but 249 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: it doesn't always go that way. 250 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: Coach Combine, from me, it's always a fun evcts. You're thinking 251 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: about the draft at that point, it loved the draft. 252 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 5: But as you look at young players and you've now 253 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: been here a year and you've been very intentional about 254 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: the players you have brought into the building, the kind 255 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: of players, the kind of men that you brought into 256 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: the building. As you think about the Combine and what 257 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 5: these prospects are going through, are there any kind of 258 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: non negotiables for you, Like, you know, this guy comes 259 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 5: in for an interview and he talks about these things, 260 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: you know what, that guy is not a Texan. Is 261 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: there any kind of way that you look at rookies 262 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: young players and just say, you know what, these things 263 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: I'm just not budgeting on. This is exactly what we're 264 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: looking for for a player. That guy doesn't meet it, 265 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: Let's move on to next guy. Is you just kind 266 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: of take everything in combine and just kind of move 267 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 5: on from there. How do you kind of look at it? 268 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 269 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: For me, I take it all in, you know, because 270 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: I would say this about the combine. 271 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 4: It's all these guys are nervous. 272 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: And coming into a lot of these meeting rooms. They're 273 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: going from team to team and twenty minute intervals, and 274 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: it's a lot on these guys. So I always kind 275 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: of take that into account, like, don't put everything into 276 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: this one interview like that one interview maybe didn't go 277 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: so well. So I don't just crush a guy right 278 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: and completely take him all the. 279 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: Board for that. It's just, man, let's dig a little deeper, 280 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: all right. 281 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: Let's make sure the position coaches talking to them, Let's 282 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: make sure our scouts, our college scouts are talking to them, 283 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: and just get the entire picture, right, So I don't 284 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: try to crush guys. There are not many, like none negotiables, 285 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: But I think because we're very selective on the guys 286 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: that we try to interview, so there is some type 287 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: of interest from our part. And are man, I mean 288 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: credit to our scouting department. Those guys that do an 289 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: outstanding job. Are college guys are on the road for 290 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: most of the year, They're going to all these colleges 291 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: writing these reports. I can't think those guys enough, right, 292 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Are the college scouting department headed up by Lippard and 293 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: all of his staff, Those guys do an outstanding job 294 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: and they have laid so much foundation, so much groundwork 295 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 3: for us as coaches to go through and read these 296 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: reports and they are pretty spot on. So when I 297 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: sit across from a guy and I've read through reports, like, yeah, 298 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: I kind of knew this already. It's about the guys, 299 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: so the work that they do, it kind of goes unnoticed. 300 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: But man, our scout department there at their top notch. 301 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: One more, is it harder to spot an energy vampire 302 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: or a guy coming in If a guy comes into 303 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: a fifteen twenty minute interview and he really brings the 304 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: juice and you know you're the twentieth one or something 305 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: that's got to say something about the player. 306 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: That definitely jumps out. 307 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 3: We had a guy our last interview last night, the 308 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: Lionman came in. He had great energy. I mean, it 309 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: was it was fun. Those interviews are fun. When a 310 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: guy comes in, even though it's the last one, he 311 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: stills bringing juice. You know, you know then it's not fake, 312 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: all right. Some guys come in they try to fake it, 313 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: but that man, it's not fake. This guy has real 314 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: juice or energy. Like man, that's what that's a Texan 315 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: right there. 316 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 317 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: So it's it's fun to get to know all these 318 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: guys again, to see all the things that these guys 319 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: that went through and to see them have the success 320 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: and be here in the position to. 321 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: The first part of their draft journey. It's fun to 322 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: be a part of it all. 323 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: Coach, thanks a lot for joining us. 324 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys, seeing you all right, take care. 325 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: There's our visit with Demiko Ryans and that's going to 326 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: be up on YouTube. If it's not up already, it 327 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: will be soon. It will be part of Texans three 328 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: sixty this weekend. The TV show that runs Saturday nights 329 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: on ABC thirteen at eleven pm in the offseason, and 330 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: of course it's on YouTube. That show itself is on 331 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: YouTube every single week. And among other things coming up 332 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: on the combine coverage this week, visually Drew's Walking Wonder 333 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: Lick Test. They don't even do the Wonder Lick Test anymore, 334 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: but we do it with the general public here in 335 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: indian That's always funny. And national media perspective on the 336 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Texans Fast and Furious two minute drill style. Speaking of 337 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: two minute drill, I've got a two minute drill Combine 338 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: radio and media road tour that's up on my Twitter 339 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: handle at Texan's Voice. Coming up, James Palmer covers the 340 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: league at large. What did he think of the Texans season? 341 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: What does it take to be a Super Bowl champion? 342 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: We'll ask him numerous questions, including what he misses about 343 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: working in Houston. That is more coming up here on 344 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: Texans Radio. Continuing with the conversations here at the NFL 345 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Johnny and I had a chance 346 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: to sit down with James Palmer of NFL Network worked 347 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: in Houston once upon a time for CSN Houston and 348 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: has done a tremendous job covering the NFL at large 349 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: for NFL Network, including some visits to Texans games this 350 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: past season. James Palmer from NFL Network, whose voice is 351 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: very familiar to Houstonians, and I know you miss Houston 352 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: every day of your life, right, My. 353 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Stomach misses host the most. I'll say that. I mean, 354 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: I who was I bragging about the food too the 355 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: other day and we're just sitting there going, I was like, man, 356 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: that's my thing I missed the most about Houston is 357 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: my ability to eat everything and every type of food 358 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: is top notch. It's unmatched. I miss it. My wife's 359 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: more of a foodie. She probably missed it more than me. 360 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 5: Actually, So what's a come on like for you? Because 361 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: you got a Yeah, your Bowl run, you were all 362 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: over the place. 363 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. Do I sound exhausted right now, Johnny. 364 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of late nights. Yeah, it was good. 365 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 5: It was good watching you know, seeing you and seeing 366 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 5: what you were doing. 367 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: It was great. 368 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: So tell the listeners, James, the late night life here 369 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: at the Combine. This is not Vegas, but it's a 370 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: working event and a lot of people like to stay 371 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: out and chat, get to know each other. 372 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: There's good, good way to way to sum it up there. 373 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Market this is there's like two combines in my opinion, 374 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: that go on in Indianapolis. There's this whole prospect aspect 375 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: of it. Then there's this whole other side of things 376 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: where and that's more my world, which is free agencies 377 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: around the corner. New staffs have been put together around 378 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: the league. Guys have new titles, talking to people about 379 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: the buildings that they're in now and changing spots and 380 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: then getting an opportunity to just spend some downtime with 381 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: these coaches that I you know, interact with on a 382 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: very professional level during the season all the time. And 383 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: so it is it is a great opportunity to sit 384 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: there and kind of get you get the goings on 385 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: of the league really really well at an evening hour 386 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: about about what's what's happening in the NFL. 387 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 5: You can be honest, you can be honest. At ten o'clock, 388 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: this turn this thing turns back up. Oh yeah, I 389 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: mean it turns back up. There's no doubt. 390 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Prime forty seven one of the places that we like 391 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: to frequent. 392 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 5: At some point there will be people that buy tables 393 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 5: for the entire week. I know of an agent that 394 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 5: buys a table for the entire corner in the far 395 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 5: right corner, and he is connected, and there are all 396 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: kinds of people that roll through there, and they have 397 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: a removable wall that they take down at like ten 398 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: thirty at night, and that thing just turned into I 399 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 5: mean Combine Central at that point. 400 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's I think that's the part 401 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: that people don't understand. Boy, the combine. I think it's 402 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: underwear Olympics, and. 403 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 5: It is, but so much business is done at that 404 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: particular place and other places throughout the city, and people 405 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 5: would never really know that exists exactly. 406 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: And then there's the other aspect that I'm not even seen, 407 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: which is like, let's use Ryan Poles for example, Like 408 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: Ryan's gonna talk to more people here than probably any 409 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: other human being with that number one pick. And what 410 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: teams are curious about they can get for justin Fields 411 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: if they want to move him or if they want 412 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: to move from that number one spot. That part of 413 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: the combine, though, We're never going to see a lot 414 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: of teams. And I'm not saying that Bears specifically have 415 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: done this because I don't know, but a lot of 416 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: teams will have a like a hotel suite or a 417 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: small conference room that has been secured for the week 418 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: where there are very very private conversations that go on 419 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: between probably Ryan and others said GMS, or other people 420 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: around the league, where he doesn't want anybody knowing who 421 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: else he talked to to not tip his hands. So 422 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: there is the open portion that's at like prime at 423 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: night and I'm networking like crazy and seeing all these 424 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, head coaches, defensive offensive coordinators and all this stuff. 425 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: But then there's the other part where we don't even 426 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: see who met with who. But those meetings are endless 427 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: and those are at wild hours as well. 428 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: Palmer, NFL Network, Johnny as James, what did you make 429 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: of what you saw from the Houston Texans in twenty 430 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: twenty three and what are your thoughts moving forward? 431 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: I was stoked, guys. I'm not gonna lie. Listen. I'm 432 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna tap myself on the back a little bit. Nobody 433 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: can see this, but I'm gonna do it right now. 434 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: I remember what was it, Johnny will probably remember, like 435 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: week five six on my show The NFL Report on 436 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: NFL Network, I was like Steve to my co host 437 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Steve White, she was like, we gotta have Bobby slokon, 438 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: Like this guy is this guy is turning heads, man, 439 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Like I'm hearing so many unbelievable things. And look at 440 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: the way they're playing, look at the way CJ's protecting 441 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: the football but also creating explosive plays in a league 442 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: that was just down in explosive plays across the board. 443 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: It was just hard to have explosive plays this year, 444 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: and Texans were able to do it. Bobby was able 445 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: to do it, and it was one of the better 446 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: interviews we had. You know, probably we have multiple people 447 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: on players coaches all every single week, and Steve and 448 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: I left in every going like I think this guy 449 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: might be in the running for a head coaching job. 450 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: And it was like it was like week five of 451 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: his first year as an offensive coordinator and he gets 452 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: all these interviews. Unless you just saw so many things 453 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: come in there. I don't know if I've seen like 454 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: a play caller and a quarterback start gelling so quickly 455 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: in a rookie year for both of them. Ever, Like really, ever, 456 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: the way and we talked about this, I think I 457 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: sat probably in this seat at the Combine last year 458 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, quarterback options and things like that. 459 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: I've never seen the game slow down for a quarterback 460 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: like it did for CJ. In year one. It was. 461 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: It was unbelievably impressive. 462 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you people don't know, if they don't know, 463 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: you're a buck Eye. He went to Ohio State, so 464 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 5: you saw all CJ. You saw everything that he did 465 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 5: at Ohio State. Was it surprising even for Buckeye fans 466 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 5: that he was able to have that kind of success 467 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 5: because he was successful at Ohio State, Don't get me wrong. 468 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Unbelievably, But there were. 469 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 5: Still people, a lot of people and maybe it was 470 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: the S two test, maybe it was other things. I 471 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: don't know, but there still were a lot of people, 472 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 5: especially in Houston that like Nope, Sprice, Younger, nobody, they 473 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: didn't want any part of CJ. Straut and for whatever 474 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 5: reason now they don't know they can to live life 475 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 5: another day without c J. 476 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Straud. 477 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 5: Was even surprising for you guys as Buckeyes fans that 478 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: it turned out that way. 479 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't for me, just because I trusted the intel 480 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: I had from the conversations I had with Ryan Day 481 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: from the conversation I had with there's like four or 482 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: five quarterback evaluators that I talked to every off season 483 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: that I really really trust in value, and one of 484 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: them told me one aspect of CJ that is stuck 485 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: with me and I've seen it, and he was like, 486 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: the way he goes through progressions with his feet before 487 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: his eyes is just something you do not see from 488 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: a college quarterback. And he's like, and that is going 489 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: to help him be successful early just because he's he's 490 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: always balanced, he's always on platform, he's always ready to throw, 491 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: and that is a huge problem for young quarterbacks. They 492 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: and so he's but the calmness part was a little 493 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. Like not to say he wasn't 494 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. He totally was. He was always in control. 495 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: But the way the game changes, and you guys know this, 496 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what defenses are throwing at you nowadays is 497 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: just I mean, it's out of this world for him 498 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: to be able to handle that and for him to 499 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: never go big play hunting. Yeah, that part jumped out 500 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: at me. Is the money That part jumped out at 501 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: me like crazy, to where I remember Slower telling us like, 502 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: he's what stands out to me the most is he'll look, 503 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: we have a big play set up and he'll just go, 504 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't there, and he'll tell me it wasn't there, 505 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: and he'll be comfortable checking it down. The maturity was 506 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: out of this world. 507 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Chiefs for a moment. 508 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: Not that I really love doing this, This is interesting, okay, 509 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: but you know so much about the way teams evolve 510 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: over the course of several seasons and season to season. 511 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: The coaches are always telling us every year is different. Well, 512 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: it's very true with them, and Johnny's always talking about, 513 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: Look how different the Chiefs are from twenty nineteen to 514 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. The roster is completely flipped over. Yet here 515 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: they are again making another run and fancy the stars 516 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: and they think, ah, it's the Kansas City Chiefs, completely 517 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: different team that we saw few years ago. What about 518 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: that aspect of the league and how certain teams can reload. 519 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: I know the quarterback helps, of course, but what do you. 520 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: Think I think the quarterback and the continuity on the 521 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: coaching staff is there? Is there? You know? Their massive advantage. 522 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: I mean you have Steve Spagnola running that defense and 523 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about half the team. I mean, 524 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: you have a guy who's been a head coach, who's 525 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: probably coaching the defensive side of the ball better than 526 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: anybody else in football right now. And you have an 527 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: offensive staff that, you know, Eric Bannemy leaves, oh, Matt 528 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Naggie just comes back, you know, like so Patrick has 529 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: had the same group around him. They they like I 530 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: had to say, they get bored in a sense with 531 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: their position coaches. They'll just move them from one position 532 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: to the other just because they've been there for a while. 533 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: You know, you know, Brendan Dalea just go from d 534 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: line to the linebackers and just but that continuity helps. 535 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: The quarterback obviously helps. And then drafted, I mean they 536 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: draft really, really, really well. I mean you look at 537 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball that was one of 538 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: the best in football this year. There's almost all homegrown talent. 539 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, from Lagarius Nee to Chris Jones to Trent 540 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: McDuffie to everybody. But the part that and I'm curious 541 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: about this with Houston, it's not the big splash free agents. 542 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: It's not Day one, in the first couple of hours 543 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: that changes your roster or in my opinion, you look 544 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: at like Drew trankwell them going and getting Drew as 545 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: like everybody going, oh, they picked up Drew Drank in 546 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: free agency like that. That was a massive pickup, maybe 547 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: one of the smallest big pickups in all of football 548 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: this past year. Because they lose Nick Bolt in their 549 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: middle linebacker for a stretch, Drew can run that entire 550 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: defense himself. So then essentially the second half of the 551 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: other they're playing two Mike linebackers on the field at 552 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: the same time. One's talking to the front, one's talking 553 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: to the back. They think of everything the same. My 554 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: point is just small moves can do a lot for 555 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: your team, especially if you're in a good spot in 556 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: the way you've drafted and they've known they've had to change. 557 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: And I think this year for Patrick, which is scary 558 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: for the rest of the league, Matt Naggie told me 559 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: this like, he's gonna be a far better quarterback in 560 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: his career moving forward because of what we went through 561 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: this year because he had to learn to win in 562 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: different ways. Scary, but you have to win in a 563 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: variety ways. I think the Patriots did that with Brady. 564 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: There were years where he just relied on the defense 565 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: and they ran the ball. And there were years he 566 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: threw for you know, four or five thousand yards. Yep, 567 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: it can change each year. You just got to know 568 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: the roster you have and the coaching staff has to 569 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: understand that. 570 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 5: That's the bigger part James in the AFC because of Patrick, 571 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: Mahomes and Kelsey and Reid all together. Andy Reid that is, 572 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: and it sounds like he's gonna get an extension too, 573 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: not saying that everybody's playing for second place in some 574 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 5: sense because the Chiefs seeming to get bored in the 575 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 5: regular season and then no one can turn it on. 576 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: Who's the biggest challenger to the Chiefs in the AFC 577 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 5: as it sits right now? 578 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, I would say the one team that 579 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to fear the Chiefs is probably Cincinnati. 580 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I Mean, Burrow's the one guy who's probably had Mahomes's 581 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: number when he's healthy. So I would you know, you 582 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: could say Cincinnati just because of Joe and the way 583 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: that you know, if he's healthy and if he's at 584 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: the top of his game, he's right up there as 585 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: one of the best in football. So that's the first 586 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: thing that jumps out of me, just because there is 587 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: this fear factor. Sure, and it's so funny, Like I 588 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: was talking to guys on the Chiefs defensive side of 589 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: the ball super Bowl week, and they were like, we 590 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: were like scratching our heads, going like what is Baltimore 591 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: doing in the second half? Like they couldn't even believe it. 592 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Baltimore just changed the way they played, and people in 593 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: the Chiefs building truly believe it's because you know, you 594 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: don't want to say this, but you're looking across the 595 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: sideline and fifteen standing over there, and you're going and 596 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: you either call the game differently either tense up. I mean, 597 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: these things happened with Brady as well, and people always 598 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: going why do these teams make these stupid mistakes in 599 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: the second half. It's like there's a there's an actual 600 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: factor of that of just you're going against this team 601 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that just somehow always finds a way. I don't think 602 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I mean, I don't think the Bengals are 603 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: impacted by that, but I think we saw Baltimore play 604 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: their worst game of the year. I mean, I thought 605 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore was an unbelievable roster and a really really good team. 606 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: I think if those teams play ten times, Baltimore might 607 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: win eight of them, honestly, But Lamar hasn't gotten over 608 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: that mental hump, and I think the mental side of 609 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: things is actually bigger than people even imagine. James Denver 610 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: your base there, so I know you've spent some time 611 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: at the facility from time to time. Yep, what do 612 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: you think happens there? Because anything going on in there? Yeah, 613 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: nothing going on. 614 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: But on all these talk shows it's Russell Wilson here, 615 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson there. Well he's still there. But what's your 616 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: thought on the future for that? 617 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question mark, because honestly, that's kind 618 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: of what this week is about as well. Like I 619 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: guarantee Mark Rodgers is here, his his agent and you 620 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: know he only has Russ as a client. That's it. 621 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: He's probably spending this week gauging what if he's released, 622 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: what is his market, what are his possible landing spots, 623 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: what would certain teams be interested in him? What's his 624 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: entire landscape look like? And the Broncos are probably doing 625 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: the exact same thing, going what are our options at quarterback? 626 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: What are you know if we end up doing this? 627 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: Can we do that? Can we like? I think both 628 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: sides will come out of this week much more informed 629 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: on what the possibility of him. I hate to say 630 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: this potentially staying, which I don't think that's likely, but 631 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: it's still on the table. Say both sides come back 632 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: and go. I don't know if we have a better 633 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: option than what we have right now, like you know, 634 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, and and maybe Mark goes round looking goes Russ. 635 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: I don't think you have a whole lot of landing spots. 636 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: Maybe we renegotiate this contract and you end up let's 637 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: go back and repair things, you know, play another year 638 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: and show some people. So they're looking at every possible option. 639 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: If you know Sean Payton, he's not a big rookie quarterback, 640 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: play right away, guy. I wouldn't put it past them, No, Lie, 641 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put a bath them if they made a 642 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: run at Kirk Cousins. I know the money situation sounds crazy, 643 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: like the eighty five million in dead money that just 644 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: saying it sounds insane, but they can make some moves 645 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: to maneuver money. And I think we all know down 646 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: in New Orleans there was no team better than Saints 647 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: just pushing money down the road. Oh a year after 648 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: still doing it, still doing it forever. I think there's 649 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: still probably have some connections to DW. Brees' money going 650 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: on down there that they've pushed down the road. So 651 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're gonna look at every possible option. 652 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think this week is huge for 653 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: both sides. 654 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: James, I'm gonna read you eight names. Okay, you'll understand 655 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 5: the association. I want you to tell me who's gonna 656 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 5: be the Demico Ryans of this group. Chargers Jim Harbaugh, Seahawks, 657 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald, Panthers, Dave Canalis, Falcons, Raheem Morris, Raiders, Antonio Pierce, Titans, 658 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 5: Brian Callahan, Patriots, girod Mayo, and. 659 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Commanders Dan Quinn. 660 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 5: Who is the Demico Ryans of that new coaching group 661 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four. 662 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: I think it's d Q. I think it's Dan Quinn. 663 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: And my thought when you read the list was who 664 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: has to do what Demiko did? I don't know if 665 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: anybody can do what Demiko did with what the building 666 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: was like, with the culture, was like all the changes 667 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: that he had to make and everything he had to do. 668 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I think d q's kind of in that similar situation. 669 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: You have new ownership coming in, you have a culture 670 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: that's been broken in Washington, you have a fan base 671 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: that is starving for success. Great fan base, but they've 672 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: just been crapped on for a period of time. There's 673 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: some talent on that roster, like there there really is, 674 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: And if there's anybody that can rebuild a culture, I 675 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's dan Quinn. I mean the 676 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: way he was loved, And I'm curious how what happens 677 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: in Dallas. Honestly, I think there's a step, maybe a 678 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: mess massive step back because of Dan dan quinn leaving. 679 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean the way he was loved, not just on 680 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, but on the offensive 681 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball as well. Just really just an 682 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 1: unbelievable ability to connect with a variety of players, and 683 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be needed. Demiko needed to do that as well. 684 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: Had dinner with Thomas de mitchrof the other last night, 685 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: and and you know, he was with dequ forever six years. 686 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: I think it was in Atlanta together, and he was 687 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: just raving last night about it, like I'm so happy 688 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: he got another opportunity because he's gonna he's gonna really 689 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: turn some head. So that that to me seems to 690 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: be the one where he probably has an equal amount 691 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: of work like Demiko had to do and has the 692 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: ability to uh to turn it. 693 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: James, why can we watch you this week? See you, 694 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: read you whatever, follow you on X. 695 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: Do you guys just call it X now? All right? 696 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: Do you? Or do you? Guys usually say that that's. 697 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: The first time I've ever left Twitter out of it, 698 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: so you were here to be a part of it. 699 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 5: So it was a radio interview this morning, and and 700 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: the two guys I was on with they called it twigs, Twigs, twix, 701 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 5: Twitter and AX. 702 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, that just makes me hungry. They were 703 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: all twigs it maybe it didn't make me hungry. I 704 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: didn't know whether you were left TwixT or right twix, 705 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: but you called it twigs. I thought it was pretty good. 706 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: They were all twigs. Yeah, I'm on we have the 707 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Insider Show this week in the middle of the day. 708 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: I'll be on that. I think I got a couple 709 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: of interviews with I think Andy Reid, Redfeach, a couple 710 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: of other people, and then. 711 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 2: That's a good show. That's a good format. You can 712 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: just stretch out big time, no rush, right, no two 713 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: minutes and you're out. Yeah, that that part stinks about it. 714 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then Steve White and I have the 715 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: NFL Report, which is also a podcast. You can get 716 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: it whenever you want. We got an episode of that 717 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: coming out this week. I'm trying to think who we have. 718 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: I think we have less sneed on the show for 719 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: like a long time, like that format of having these guests, 720 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: like when we had Slow It Gone for you know, 721 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of talking ball is just phenomenal. So I 722 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: think we have them and we have I think I'm 723 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: Tom Bell, Sarah's gonna jump on and talk some competition 724 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: committee stuff like the hip drop tackle all that jazz 725 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: on our show, which is and man, you talked to players, Man, 726 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: they're like, I'm just trying to get somebody at the ground. 727 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Like players don't understand it. I'll be honest, Like they're like, 728 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: if you think I'm cognitively thinking like I should just 729 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: do it this way right and cause an injury, you're 730 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: out of your mind. I Am just trying to get 731 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: to this person and get them to the ground somehow. 732 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: How are you supposed to tackle people. I tackle them low, 733 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: don't tackle them high. I tackle them in a two 734 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: inch area. 735 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: It's about a foot by a foot spot where you 736 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 5: can tackle a guy. Now it's like, now you're going 737 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 5: to take away that opportunity. 738 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: We exire Franklin on our show, UH mid season, probably 739 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: one of the best tacklers in all football, and he 740 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know what they want me 741 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: to do anymore like and he's like, and then the 742 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: hard part is you start thinking while you're out there, 743 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: which is one thing you don't want to do. And 744 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: the other part is you start thinking after you tackle, 745 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: how you go, ah, am, I gonna get fined for that? 746 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a like you may a flag? 747 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: But then they get a flag and then all sudden 748 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: Friday comes around and you gotta you know, you got 749 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: a note in your locker, and you're like, oh man, 750 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: so it is. It is. The players are frustrated, but 751 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: I understand that health and safety is important. But it 752 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: has been a wild discussion between the two sides and. 753 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: An ongoing one. James Stock's a lot for joining us always, guys. 754 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: I wonder we're gonna talk about next year we'll think 755 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: of something. Thanks, there's our buddy James Palmer from NFL 756 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: Network now coming up. Let's dive in to the AFC South. 757 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: We will do that this week, and we'll stay local, 758 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: local as far as Indianapolis goes. With a conversation with 759 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. What do the Colts 760 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: need to do to challenge the Texans? I don't want 761 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: to hear about this, do I? 762 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Yes? I do? 763 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: And what does Matt think of the rest of the 764 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: AFC South and the way the division's going to shape 765 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: up in twenty twenty four. Let's get to that and more. Next, 766 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: it's Texans All Access keeping it moving right along here 767 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. NFL Scouting combine Mark VanderMeer and John Harris 768 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: with you as we visit with AFC South foes when 769 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: we come here, and we haven't checked in with the 770 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: Titans yet, haven't checked in with the Jaguars yet, But 771 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: now we're gonna check in with the nemesis. The Texans 772 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: ended the Colts curse. I know it's gonna take a 773 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: long time to reverse the overall record, the Texans have 774 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: beaten the Colts a total of eleven times, in the 775 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: history of the franchise, but with the victory in Week 776 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: eighteen that made it five and four in the last 777 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: nine trips here to Indy, and considering the magnitude of 778 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: that game, I declare the curse over. But let's get 779 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: some thoughts here. Matt Taylor, good guy voice of the 780 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, Johnny Harris, and I visit with him here 781 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: in Indy. 782 00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 6: Matt, well, we meet again. My friends never left. Just 783 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 6: across the street. That's the only difference. 784 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: We're across the street at Lucas Oil Stadium. We actually 785 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: stayed outside of town when we visited for that Week 786 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: eighteen showdown, and it was a very different experience. You know, 787 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: the suburbs of Indianapolis. 788 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Nice. You know, we're in Carmel Nice. 789 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: Is it Carmel or Carmel or Carmel carl Indiana. 790 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're see, you're up north. I'm a down south guy, 791 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 6: all right, So I'm not as hoity toity as I 792 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 6: hope I don't, you know, peeve off some of my 793 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 6: own you know, some fellow Hoosiers. But yeah, I'm south Side, 794 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 6: through and through, very proud of it. About twenty minutes 795 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 6: south of here. So listen, you can't go wrong. Man, 796 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 6: Central Indiana. It's a great place to live. I'm proud 797 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 6: to be from here. I love that the fact that 798 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 6: the Combine is here, you know, basically ten days after 799 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 6: the NBA All Star Game was here. Just a lot 800 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 6: of civic pride about how we handle you know, who's 801 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 6: your hospitality and Final Fours and Super Bowls. We have 802 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 6: the Indy five hundred every year. I just feel like 803 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 6: this city, with all the organizations, we know how to 804 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 6: do big events because of the proximity of things, the 805 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 6: geography of things, and just you know, the efficiency in 806 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 6: which people can have a good time here. 807 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 808 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 5: Matt Taylor joining us to voice Indianapolis Colts Matt Week eighteen. 809 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: I know I thought about this the entire week leading 810 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 5: up to our game on Saturday night, Week eighteen here 811 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 5: at Lucas Oil, Like, what was gonna be my thought 812 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 5: about the twenty twenty three Texans had we had we 813 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 5: lost that game. I didn't want to lose it. I 814 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 5: definitely didn't want to lose it. I felt okay about 815 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 5: going in because we knew seven was playing, but I 816 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 5: had thought, like, what's gonna be my thought if I 817 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 5: wake up Sunday and we've lost that game. I'm gonna 818 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 5: be proud of the team. I'm gonna be disappointed. What 819 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 5: was what were y'all's thoughts going into the game Week 820 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 5: eighteen and what's been kind of the aftermath for us? 821 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 5: We won, you guys ended up losing, But what was 822 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 5: kind of the aftermath for you guys and taking such 823 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: a difficult blow for a team that was not a 824 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 5: lot expected of, right, but yet was able to play 825 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: in essentially a playoff game in Week eighteen? 826 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 4: Yeah? 827 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 6: Same, I mean it was disappointing. I thought the Colts 828 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 6: had a really good chance to win, but obviously they 829 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 6: had some secondary issues. Didn't make the plays down the stretch, right, 830 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 6: You had a chance to take the lead down six, 831 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 6: with the chance, you know you're inside the red zone, 832 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 6: go forward on fourth down, throw it to the back. 833 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 6: You know Tyler Goodson can't make the play. You know 834 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 6: the rest is history. But you know, I got the 835 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 6: question back in training camp going into the season, you know, 836 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 6: what are your expectations for the Colts? I had none, because, 837 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 6: quite frankly, the year before, when the Colts brought in 838 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 6: Matt Ryan, I thought they were going to be pretty good, 839 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 6: and they weren't. It was the exact opposite of that, right, 840 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 6: They went four twelve and one, and you know, a 841 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 6: stick of dynamite goes off in the middle of the 842 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 6: season where you're firing the offensive coordinator, you're firing the 843 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 6: head coach, you're starting your third string quarterback and Sam Ellinger. 844 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 6: So this year, with a rookie head coach, a new 845 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 6: offensive staff minus the wide receiver coach, and Reggie Wayne, 846 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 6: and a rookie quarterback who you took in the top five, 847 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 6: who had played whatever it was, thirteen games in college, 848 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 6: I had no idea what to expect. I just knew 849 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 6: it was going to be fun, it was going to 850 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 6: be interesting. There was gonna be a lot of highs, 851 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 6: there was going to. 852 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: Be some lows. 853 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 6: So with that said, going into week eighteen, I thought 854 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 6: it was just a really fun, entertaining, exciting season because 855 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 6: you played a majority of the season without Anthony Richardson 856 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: and you still had a chance to do something and 857 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 6: make the playoffs. And so from that standpoint, it was 858 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 6: really frustrating that they had a chance. I thought they 859 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 6: had a good team. They didn't play well, you know, 860 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 6: had some big plays go against them, didn't make plays 861 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 6: and crunched on like we talked about, and it was 862 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 6: just frustrating because, like we talked about off the air, 863 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 6: I mean, if you look at what's going to happen 864 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 6: this upcoming season, the parody in the AFC is only 865 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 6: getting stronger. Right, You've got Houston now with CJ. Stroud, 866 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 6: The Jaguars aren't going anywhere. You know, Pittsburgh is going 867 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 6: to have a new quarterback. The Chargers now have a 868 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 6: new head coach, right, and all these teams that have 869 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 6: been battling at the top, the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals, 870 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 6: they're not going anywhere. Miami's not going anywhere. So I'm 871 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 6: not trying to say the Colts can't make the playoffs, 872 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 6: and it's not that it's going to be impossible, but 873 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 6: it's just really hard right now to be an up 874 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 6: and coming team in the AFC as they try to 875 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 6: get more explosive on offense. They got a lot of 876 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 6: work to do in the offseason. But yeah, long win 877 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 6: and answer of saying they missed an opportunity, and who 878 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 6: knows what the future holds with Anthony Richardson, who, by 879 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 6: the way, is going to have to reboot his rookie 880 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 6: season to a degree, only playing in one hundred and 881 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 6: seventy three snaps last year. 882 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: Well, factoring into the Colts being right in it up 883 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 2: till the very end, was Gardner Minshew Matt Taylor, voice 884 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 2: of the Colts joining us. So he's a free agent, right, 885 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: what do you think happens there? Backup quarterback? They have 886 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: to address that, because look, every team in the league 887 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 2: has to address that. You never know what happens to 888 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: your starter. And as you said, this is going to 889 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: be the second rookie year for Anthony Richardson. 890 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of different things in play with 891 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew. I mean, he had all that experience and 892 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 6: familiarity with Shane Stike in two years in Philadelphia, and 893 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 6: they signed him in free agency last year in March 894 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: before the draft obviously, before they knew what they were 895 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 6: going to do, you know, solidly at quarterback in the draft, 896 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 6: before they picked up Anthony Richardson. So there's a couple 897 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 6: of things in play obviously if they want to bring 898 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 6: back Gardner Minshew, which last year was the year of 899 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 6: the backup quarterback. I mean, I don't know what the 900 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 6: number was, but I read at the end of the season, 901 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 6: like over fifty five different quarterbacks last year started a 902 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 6: game in the NFL, So every team dealt with it. Obviously, 903 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 6: the Colts had to deal with it with Minshew starting, 904 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 6: you know, thirteen games, appearing in sixteen of them, including 905 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 6: that Week two game in Houston, So you have to 906 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 6: factor in he's going to be his value is going 907 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 6: to be higher on the open market, so what you 908 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 6: signed him for last year, it's going to be higher 909 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 6: this year. Rightfully so, and also too with with Anthony 910 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 6: Richardson and his skill set, not saying that there it's 911 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 6: impossible to win with Gardner Minshew because is not obviously 912 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 6: because they won a lot of football games, but obviously 913 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 6: stylistically they're drastically different. So there's different ways to skin 914 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 6: a skin a cat. But do the Colts hypothetically want 915 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 6: to bring in a backup quarterback that has a closer 916 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 6: skill set to that of Anthony Richardson, So if Anthony 917 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 6: does go down, hypothetically they have a quarterback that they 918 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 6: don't have to change the entire offense or the entire 919 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 6: script of plays that they would call throughout the course 920 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 6: of a game. So Gardner Minshew. He made himself some 921 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 6: money this season for the Indianapolis Colts, and I think 922 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 6: as far as backup quarterback, as far as that market 923 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 6: is concerned, Gardner Minshew has to be high atop the 924 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 6: list of people that you know. Listen if if your 925 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 6: backup quarter if you're starting quarterback, goes down for four games, 926 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew can give you a chance to win every 927 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 6: single time out, just like you did last year at 928 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 6: the Colts. 929 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 5: Matt it seemed just watching some of the post draft 930 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 5: stuff that Morocco Brown love him some. Anthony Richardson, you 931 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 5: said one hundred and seventy three snaps, that's what you 932 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 5: got out of him his rookie year. 933 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: I would imagine that. Obviously the jury is. 934 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 5: Still out, so the building still feels like, Okay, yeah, 935 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 5: this guy is who he thought he was and what 936 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 5: we know what he can be in Shane Steichen's offense. 937 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 5: What do you know the feeling of the building to 938 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 5: be on Anthony Richardson, is it still kind of wait 939 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 5: and see, either still worried about some things or do 940 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 5: they feel like we got the right guys just a 941 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 5: matter of time. 942 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 6: I think they are incredibly excited based on the small 943 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 6: sample size that they saw for him from him last year, 944 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 6: they feel like they got the right guy. And I 945 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 6: honestly think based on the vibes and the different things 946 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 6: you heard and your ability to kind of interpret things 947 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 6: at the end of the draft last year, had the 948 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 6: Colt hypothetically been picking one, they probably were gonna go 949 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 6: after Anthony Richardson. That's how convicted they feel they are 950 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 6: on him. But you're right. I mean, I did the 951 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 6: math last week. You know, one hundred and seventy three 952 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 6: snaps equates to about fifteen percent of the offensive snaps 953 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 6: for the season. So again, he's going to have to 954 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 6: reboot it a little bit. But from what you saw 955 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 6: last year, I think he's way further ahead of schedule 956 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 6: than most people anticipated given his lack of experience coming 957 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 6: out of college at Florida. He's a way better passing 958 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 6: quarterback than I thought. He was, way more accurate, way 959 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 6: more under control. I mean rarely, I mean even back 960 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 6: in the offseason workout program and in training camp, rarely 961 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 6: did the ball go to a place where it shouldn't. 962 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 6: So he's got a really good mental, you know, mastery 963 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 6: of what they're asking of him. But the biggest thing 964 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 6: is just reps and time on task. And I think 965 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 6: the biggest thing for the Colts in the offseason in 966 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 6: terms of how they get better and how they compete 967 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 6: with the big dogs, they have to be more explosive. 968 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 6: They've got to be more explosive on offense somehow, some way, 969 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 6: you know, in order for them to score towards the 970 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 6: end of the season. You guys saw in the Week 971 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 6: eighteen they had to go on ten, eleven, twelve play 972 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 6: drives just sometimes get themselves into Fueld goal range with 973 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 6: Matt Gay. So their number one mission in the offseason 974 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 6: is get more explosive on offense, whether that's re signed 975 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 6: Michael Pittman junior, add some more pop in the draft. 976 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 6: But I just think with Anthony Richardson's return, I think 977 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 6: that in and of itself will help tremendously. I mean, 978 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 6: think about this running game with Anthony Richardson and Jonathan 979 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 6: Taylor in the running game at the same time, right 980 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 6: think about what that's gonna do to kind of lighten 981 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 6: the box the unpredictability within the offense there. So I 982 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 6: think naturally that's gonna help. I mean, if you go 983 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 6: back to the first four or five games of the season, 984 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 6: the Colts I think ranked tenth and explosive plays, and 985 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 6: again it goes back to Gardner Minshew stylistically being a 986 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 6: different quarterback that obviously that number fell way down because 987 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 6: you know, RPO, quick rhythm, get the ball out. You know, 988 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 6: that's just who Gardner Minshew is. That's no knock on him, 989 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 6: but that's just how he plays. So I think there's 990 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 6: a chance for the Colts to be way more dangerous 991 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 6: next year on offense, adding more playmakers and just Anthony 992 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 6: Richardson his presence out there in the field. It's going 993 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 6: to make a difference. 994 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts joining us. Okay, from 995 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: a Colts perspective, because I always say this about defenses, 996 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: if you're an offense, do what the defense doesn't want 997 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: you to do. So from a Colts perspective, what if 998 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: the Texans, because this is fan talk and a lot 999 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: of local media talk in Houston, what if the Texans 1000 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: side either Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley. 1001 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: What is your reaction? 1002 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 6: Same thing, same thing. 1003 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: I mean. 1004 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 6: Now, you've got the great runner in the great running 1005 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 6: game to go along with CJ. Stroud, who proved last 1006 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 6: year he's incredibly accurate. You know, the book on CJ. Stroud, 1007 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 6: as you guys know, was that in college the accuracy 1008 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 6: rate when he was protected versus non protected drastically different. 1009 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 6: Well that's any quarterback, right, And he proved that he 1010 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 6: can handle the blitz, he can handle the muddy pocket, 1011 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 6: and he can get out of the pocket. He's not 1012 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 6: looking to run, but he can run and he can 1013 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 6: extend plays. So if you compliment that with Derrick Henry 1014 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 6: in free agency or Saquon Barkley in free agency, didn't you, 1015 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 6: I think you have a very very good offense. And 1016 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 6: you know the Colts last year they really struggled to 1017 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 6: slow down big plays. I mean that was you know again, 1018 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 6: you go back to offensively getting more big plays, defensively 1019 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 6: slowing down big plays. You know, it's really frustrating as 1020 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 6: a Colts fan to see Nico Collins going for nine 1021 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 6: for one ninety five in a Week eighteen game where 1022 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,439 Speaker 6: no disrespect to anybody else, you know, in that wide 1023 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 6: receiver corps for Houston, but the Colts knew they had 1024 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 6: to stop one guy and they didn't get it done 1025 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 6: in a must win game. So if you add a 1026 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 6: great established runner to that equation. You know, that's that's 1027 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 6: nightmare for the AFC South. You know, so the Colts 1028 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 6: have a lot of work to do in terms of 1029 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 6: you know, their twenty eighth in scoring, defense, a lot 1030 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 6: of big plays. I just think there's too much talent 1031 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 6: defensively on that Colts roster individually speaking, to finish near 1032 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 6: the bottom of the league in terms of points allowed 1033 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So that would not be ideal, 1034 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 6: let's put it that way for the Colts defense. 1035 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: There's our friend and foe, Frenemie Matt Taylor, voice of 1036 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, and more of that conversation is going 1037 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: to be up on a vanderpod soon enough. Tomorrow we're 1038 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 2: gonna visit with Nick Cassio right out of the shoot, 1039 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: among other people. So you don't want to miss a 1040 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 2: thing as we are broadcasting from Indianapolis all week long, 1041 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 2: and we've got other coverage going up on YouTube and 1042 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 2: Texans three sixty at ABC thirteen Saturday night at eleven pm. 1043 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: And what else can I promo? How about this Patrick 1044 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 2: and Sean coming up Area forty five. Don't miss it, 1045 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: have a great night. This show will be up on 1046 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 2: podcasts soon enough, Spotify, iTunes, and Houston Texans dot com 1047 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: and the Texans app enjoy your evening. 1048 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: Go Texans,