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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we are

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Speaker 1: rolling through the program. I am in New York City, Buck,

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Speaker 1: your hometown. There are a bunch of good Christmas tree

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Speaker 1: eerie it felt to walk by the hotel where that

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Speaker 1: insurance executive was shot assassinated in what feels like cold blood.

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Speaker 1: There is a full on manhunt underway in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Pictures of that individual are out. We will be following

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Speaker 1: that throughout the course of the program. Also, New York

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Speaker 1: City story Daniel Penny. His fate is in the hands

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Speaker 1: of a jury over his good samaritan efforts to in

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Speaker 1: his defense, protect people on the subway. We potentially could

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Speaker 1: get a verdict in that case today during the course

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Speaker 1: of this program. So those are two major stories that

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Speaker 1: we are monitoring that are both related to New York City.

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Speaker 1: But a couple of other stories that we're going to

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Speaker 1: be on top of for sure during the course of

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Speaker 1: today's program. The fallout of the stupidity from Katanji Brown

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Justice Sonya Soda mayor and the questions that

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Speaker 1: they were asking during the trans Treatment of minors debate

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Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court yesterday. Is continuing to get more attention.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about that, but Buck, I want to

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Speaker 1: start with what feels to me like a clear effort

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Speaker 1: to try to weaken Donald Trump before he comes into

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Speaker 1: office by going after his nominees for prominent positions. Matt

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Speaker 1: Gates has already had to step down because there was

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Speaker 1: no ability to get to fifty votes and allow for

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Speaker 1: jd Vance to break the tie. Now Pete Hegseth is

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Speaker 1: the next man up. They are taking a pound of

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Speaker 1: flash from him in every single day. The stories out

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Speaker 1: there are truly unbelievable. I mean, this is a guy

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Speaker 1: who already had a public job in terms of working

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Speaker 1: on Fox News. Many of you have watched him for years.

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Speaker 1: As soon as he was nominated as Defense Secretary, they

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Speaker 1: have come after him in a big way. He is

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Speaker 1: continuing his meetings. Yesterday he talked to the press about

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Speaker 1: what he was asked to do and why he would

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Speaker 1: refuse to step down. This is cut eight.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful process to go through and meet senators and talk

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Speaker 2: to them, especially members of the Senate Armed Services Committee,

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Speaker 2: whose passion is the Defense Department and our war fighters

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Speaker 2: to hear what they want to do, to make sure

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Speaker 2: that department is properly oriented for the threats of the

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Speaker 2: world and make sure that we're putting the war fighters first.

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Speaker 2: That's what Donald Trump asked me to do. Your job

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Speaker 2: is to bring a war fighting ethos back to the pentagony.

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Speaker 2: Your job is to make sure that it's lethality, lethality, lethality,

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Speaker 2: everything else gone.

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Speaker 1: Everything else that distracts.

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Speaker 3: From that shouldn't be happening.

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Speaker 2: That's the message I'm hearing from senators in that advising

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Speaker 2: consent process.

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Speaker 1: It's been a wonderful process. Okay that now here is

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Speaker 1: one thing I would like to get your opinion on,

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Speaker 1: buck and Senator Lindsay Graham actually says it. He says,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to make any decision in any way

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Speaker 1: that is based on that is based on anonymous sources.

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Speaker 1: And almost all of these attacks right now are predicated

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Speaker 1: on anonymous sources. You talked about yesterday, your wife who

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've gotten any calls. I haven't

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Speaker 1: gotten any calls. But here is Senator Lindsey Graham talking

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to make any decision based on what

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Speaker 1: Cut nine.

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Speaker 4: I've known p for a long time. I'll serve with

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Speaker 4: him in Afghani. The people over there said nothing but

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Speaker 4: great things about him. The allegations against Pete are all anonymous,

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Speaker 4: anonymous sources. I am not going to make any decision

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Speaker 4: based on an anonymous source. If you're not willing to

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Speaker 4: doesn't count. I've heard everything about all these people. None

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? You think that's Lindsay

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Speaker 1: Hegseth if it comes to a vote, let me tell

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Speaker 1: Maybe he hasn't been on Fox enough lately. He wants

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Speaker 1: Clay increasingly, as I was watching Morning Joe this morning.

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Speaker 1: This is the beginning of the hashtag resistance. I think

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Speaker 1: I mean? There's the specifics of Okay, heg Seth. What

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Speaker 1: And as you and I both said, the only criminal

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Speaker 1: allegation against Pete hag Seth, I flatly reject as false.

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless somebody shows me something else, I think

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Speaker 1: it is untrue. I've read through this stuff. I've read

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Speaker 1: through the transcripts. Now we're looking though at what does

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Speaker 1: it mean if the Democrats are able to stop Trump

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Speaker 1: from getting a secretary of defense? It just means that

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Speaker 1: you're encouraging this. Right, there's more of this coming. And

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Speaker 1: I understand a lot of people are taking this position

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Speaker 1: the Democrats to be quote reasonable whether you Vieid's reasonable

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Speaker 1: They tried to lock him up in prison, they raided

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Speaker 1: his home at mar A Lago. No niceties. Okay, yes, constitutionality,

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Speaker 1: that sense that there needs to be a Republican steamroller here.

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Speaker 1: We have the votes. Pete would be great. Ram it

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Speaker 1: me ask you this too. I understand Susan Collins in Maine.

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Speaker 1: Trump won overwhelmingly. Your constituents in all these states overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: said we trust Donald Trump with making the most important

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Speaker 1: and if that were to occur, then all of them

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Speaker 1: would get confirmed. Look, the advice and consent process is

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Speaker 1: him questions at the confirmation hearing. But I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: you look at some of the people who have run

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Speaker 1: Pete heg Seth. Tons of Republicans voted for Lloyd Austin

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Speaker 1: to your point for Secretary of Defense. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: So all this stuff though, you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: and haw around it seems instead of supporting it. Again.

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Speaker 1: I understand if there's particular electoral challenges for someone like

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Speaker 1: Get in line behind him. I also would add this,

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Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth could have continued to make millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: the level where Pete Hegseth is, it actually pays very well.

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Speaker 1: My point on this is, when you're coming after Pete Hegseth,

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Speaker 1: The idea that somehow he's a unique threat and somehow

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Speaker 1: he's not qualified to be Defense secretary. Again, he's I

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Speaker 1: I think so many people initially liked Donald Trump, because

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Speaker 1: Derek Chauvin case, Because if you go back and look

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Speaker 1: massive amounts of reasonable doubt about whether or not he

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Speaker 1: was in any way culpable for the death of George Floyd.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I mean if I could, if I were the governor

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Speaker 1: it or not. It's Tim Walls. I know that it's

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Speaker 1: never gonna happen, But I'm saying, based on the event,

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Speaker 1: would be based on the evidence, and based on the

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Speaker 1: fact he did not get a fair trial, they would

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Speaker 1: not move the venue. There was the threat of violence

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Speaker 1: against the city at the time. It was absolutely not

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Speaker 1: a fair trial that he got. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think George Lloyd system. He has been stabbed in prison

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Speaker 1: already and he's living this life of hell, and what

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Speaker 1: what are we supposed to believe? Derek Chauvein was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go out and kill a guy

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Speaker 1: today because I'm a racist. I want to throw my

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Speaker 1: whole life away because I'm a racist. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: believe it totally. And so I think you go back

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Speaker 1: and you look at a lot of these cases and

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Speaker 1: in the wake of twenty twenty and I hope, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the reason we're having this conversation obviously is

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Speaker 1: because the Daniel Penny case is to the jury right now.

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Speaker 1: I hope this jury, even in New York City, rejects

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Speaker 1: this prosecution and finds there to be reasonable doubt, which

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Speaker 1: to me, there clearly is as it pertains these charges.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's important to point out again

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to take talk about race and policing and

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Speaker 1: how it impacts the justice system. If Daniel Penny were

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Speaker 1: black and this other individual had been why eight, there

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Speaker 1: would have never been a story at all. Nobody would

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Speaker 1: have paid attention to it. In Buck's point about Tyree Nichols,

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Speaker 1: most of you have completely not even awarehrdly of that

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Speaker 1: story because Tyree Nichols was brutally murdered by black police officers.

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Speaker 1: If it had been white police officers, many cities would

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Speaker 1: cared because of the race of the police that killed him.

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Speaker 1: That is what the race brokers, the divisive race people

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Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic voters than virtually any Republican. Ever, many

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Speaker 1: you could also layer. You know, we talked about how

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Speaker 1: and they were gonna switch the whole channel. If you

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Speaker 1: was offered a show there because they want to balance

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Speaker 1: it out. I don't think you take it right now.

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Speaker 1: You're buying a stock that has not bottomed out. My friends,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is a mess over there. It's not

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Speaker 1: going to change anytime soon. I can't even watch Mooring

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Speaker 1: Joe when they're not saying Trump is hitler and having

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: are rolling through this program, still awaiting news. I'm in

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Speaker 1: New York getting ready to head to Israel. Buck, We'll

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Speaker 1: have you solo tomorrow as I'll be somewhere in the air,

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Speaker 1: hopefully smoothly headed to Israel. I'll be with you from

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Speaker 1: Israel next week. But two big stories in New York.

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Speaker 1: outside of a midtown New York City hotel not far

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Speaker 1: from Rockefeller Center where they just had the tree lighting

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Speaker 1: here in the middle of Manhattan. That chase is underway.

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Speaker 1: Also Daniel Penny. The jury continues to deliberate. In general,

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Speaker 1: I would say the longer this deliberation goes, the better

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Speaker 1: it is for Daniel Penny, because the expectation would be

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Speaker 1: at a minimum. That might mean that all of the

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Speaker 1: jurors are not able to come to the same conclusion,

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Speaker 1: because if they could rapidly return, maybe that would be

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Speaker 1: a bit different. But we tease this as we went

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Speaker 1: to break the veg Ramaswami and Elon Musk are both

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill in an effort to go after some

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Speaker 1: form of just coherent government spending, and Elon says requiring

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Speaker 1: federal employees to come to the office five days a

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Speaker 1: week would result in a wave of voluntary retirements of

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Speaker 1: people moving to new jobs. And he shared some data

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Speaker 1: that I thought was staggering, and I bet many of

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Speaker 1: you are going to have your jaws drop. This is

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Speaker 1: what Elon Musk just shared. Only six percent of federal

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Speaker 1: employees show up in the office for a forty hour

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Speaker 1: work week. Right now, repeat that, six percent of your

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Speaker 1: hours a week in an office. Okay, that's an unbelievably

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Speaker 1: low number, Buck, I'm about to blow your mind even

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Speaker 1: more if you eliminate maintenance workers and janitorial staff. It's

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Speaker 1: only one percent maintenance, janitorial security. I should mention too,

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Speaker 1: only one percent of employees that are not in maintenance,

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Speaker 1: janitorial or security services and offices show up for forty

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Speaker 1: hour work weeks. I saw this stat and it blew

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Speaker 1: my mind. One percent. Do you think, Buck, that we're

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Speaker 1: going to be able to get any sort of significant

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Speaker 1: changes here? And don't you think in general, requiring all

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Speaker 1: Elon and Vivek are actually correct that it could lead

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Speaker 1: which pre COVID was a standard requirement of basic work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there's an all that's what quiet quitting is. They're

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Speaker 1: give these recommendations and the executive branch follows through. I

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Speaker 1: do think Clay, this is an area. Look, very few

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Speaker 1: You have to go start looking at Office of Personnel Management,

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Speaker 1: Firing civil servants is likely to be very hard. Getting

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Speaker 1: harder than even people recognized with like like Vivek and

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Speaker 1: Because if the if, the if. The thing that you

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Speaker 1: So what they're trying to accomplish here is changing the

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Speaker 1: will decide they're gonna they're gonna leave the job. I

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Speaker 1: think what they're gonna find out is as as long

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Speaker 1: as there's really no performance requirement, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely bonkers. Let me hit you with this. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Buck, Sorry, there's been an earthquake I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've seen this yet in Eureka, California. Six

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Speaker 1: For those of you out there, I know we have

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Speaker 1: a big audience in northern California. You may be getting

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Speaker 1: alerts in that region. But I didn't know this website existed,

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Speaker 1: But there is a website tsunami dot gov that you

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Speaker 1: can check. This earth earthquake seven point zero six point six.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing different magnitudes, but a decent sized earthquake in

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Speaker 1: I want to make you aware you may be getting

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Speaker 1: know more details associated with that, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: recedes in an area, right, isn't that what the eerie

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Speaker 1: preceding moment. Yes, an looks like right, the water pulls

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Speaker 1: a wall of water. I think that's always It's not

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Speaker 1: like a wave, it's a wall of water. That's the

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Speaker 1: the lookout for that there. Now. I think I've been

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Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, yeah, it was an earthquake. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: many things, based on the sporting event that was played

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Speaker 1: been like two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: And then the big one that hit recently in La

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Speaker 1: wanted to play this clip for you. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've seen this, the cope inside of left wing

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Speaker 1: media circles with everything having to do with Trump's win.

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Speaker 1: They don't even know what to say. And Jamel Hill,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to play this cut because it's important to

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Speaker 1: understand what they're saying. She said, Hey, the reason Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris lost everybody is because of racism and misogyny. So there,

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Speaker 1: some of these left wingers buck are taking the loss

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Speaker 1: just racism and misogyny, even though importantly this was the

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Speaker 7: Listen, I take the reelection of Donald Trump quite personally

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Speaker 7: And that is because I think for a lot of

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Speaker 7: position before where we felt qualified, if not overqualified in

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Speaker 7: though we should not internalize it this way, it felt

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Speaker 6: Because I see all this post election.

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Speaker 7: Autopsies trying to box around what I think was pretty

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Speaker 7: obvious about how racism and misogyny were driving a lot

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Speaker 7: of the coverage, the opinions, and even how the electoriates

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Speaker 7: saw Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: There you go back, the electoriate saw Kamala Harris as

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Speaker 1: a particularly because of racism and sexism, they were unable

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Speaker 1: to recognize just how insanely brilliant she actually is. That's

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Speaker 1: the argument that they're going with. The good news of

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Speaker 1: this election is that serious people don't take that analysis seriously.

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Speaker 1: People who want to get an actual sense of what

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Speaker 1: happened are in a really bad spot right now by

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Speaker 1: my Democrats, because a lot of the narratives that they've

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Speaker 1: built up over a long time have been dashed by

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Speaker 1: the reality of this election. As you noted movement actually

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Speaker 1: toward Trump from minority communities. I'm not saying he won

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Speaker 1: them out right, although what was the Hispanic total? Wasn't

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Speaker 1: it very more close? For men in particular, it was

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Speaker 1: he won. I think Trump did Hispanic men and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think Hispanics overall it was like maybe forty

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Speaker 1: six percent for Trump. So it's it's quite a thing

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Speaker 1: to watch people cling to the old narratives. And also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Kamala Harris is smart, like you know,

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Speaker 1: what is that? Are we just not going to say

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Speaker 1: everybody's really smart. I'm just wondering what is the standard

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Speaker 1: by which we're deciding that she was really impressive? It

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Speaker 1: was you know, Joy Reid said about the Kamala campaign,

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Speaker 1: it was flawless, which we all thought was the funniest thing.

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Speaker 1: How can you say it's flawless, Like would a football

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Speaker 1: coach say we had a flawless performance Clay if they

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Speaker 1: lost by three touchdowns. I think that's a tough argument

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Speaker 1: to make, but that's what some of the Kamala partisans

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Speaker 1: want to say. Kamala's argument Sorry, Joy Reid's argument on

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Speaker 1: behalf of Kamala was she ran a flawless campaign because

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Speaker 1: and I can't believe this is real, Queen Latifa endorsed her.

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Speaker 1: That was the argument that things were so good because

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Speaker 1: just kind of blown away by where we are. All right,

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Speaker 1: I just want to let her know we're not We're

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Speaker 5: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, then play Travis Tuck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program and we are joined now

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Speaker 1: by Matt Walsh, star of Ami Racist and also what

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Speaker 1: is a woman? Incredible actor? I saw you actually saw

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Speaker 1: a clip of you explaining before we get into serious stuff,

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Speaker 1: that to Ben Shapiro that you thought you were a

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Speaker 1: good actor because basically all acting is is pretending, and

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Speaker 1: most kids are pretty good at pretending, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was really a funny way of explaining. But you're not

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Speaker 1: pretending when it comes to the Supreme Court case that

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Speaker 1: was heard yesterday, and so I want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: Were even you amazed at how dumb the questions by

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Speaker 1: Sonya Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson were to oppose this

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Speaker 1: law in Tennessee because I got to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I had low expectations and they managed to be lower

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Speaker 1: than my expectations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is, uh, well, you expect to be done,

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Speaker 3: but then you're still amazed anew every time you encounter

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Speaker 3: the dumbness and uh, you know, not just the questions

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Speaker 3: from you know, the liberal justices, but the the lawyers

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Speaker 3: that were in there for the ACLU and Biden administration

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Speaker 3: that were supposed to be making their case. I mean,

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Speaker 3: just to see and you'd rather hear them totally fall apart.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there were there were multiple moments. If you

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Speaker 3: listen even to some of the clips of the oral arguments,

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Speaker 3: there were multiple moments where you know, just that one

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Speaker 3: moment alone collapses their whole case. There's like there's sixty

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Speaker 3: second bits where you did just take that sixty seconds

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Speaker 3: and the whole thing's done. Just because of that. That

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Speaker 3: that happened multiple times where they basically had to concede

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Speaker 3: some points that they have, that that they have been

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Speaker 3: some claims that they've been making for years and years.

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Speaker 3: The whole case revolves around they've had to concede that Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: actually that's not true. And once they say that, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: what are we doing here? Why what are we even

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Speaker 3: talking about? If you guys aren't even standing by this

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Speaker 3: stuff anymore.

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Speaker 1: Matt, you know a lot of this as I've seen,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, am I Racist was fantastic and

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Speaker 1: what is the Woe was fantastic and we really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your work on that. But also I know your work

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Speaker 1: on a very direct policy front to raise the issue

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Speaker 1: of transurgery for miners and the way you've been on

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Speaker 1: the front lines of this, and it's really admirable stuff.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think in our business a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: entertaining and informing, but sometimes you get to actually move

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Speaker 1: the needle in a real way, and you've managed to

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Speaker 1: do that. So I just wanted to give you a

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Speaker 1: moment of that because it's appreciated by everybody who agrees

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Speaker 1: with you in this fight and who wants to see

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Speaker 1: children be protected. With that said, I think a part

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Speaker 1: things like the other side says things that they don't believe.

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Speaker 1: I see I've experienced this. Democrats will say to me

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Speaker 1: off air. Yeah, I mean, I'm not really with the

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Speaker 1: trans women and men sports thing, but like I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get attacked. But yesterday outside of Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: there were a whole bunch of lunatics. You could hear

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, can you just take us into

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the kinds of people that show up

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Speaker 3: A party was going down in flames. Because what that

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Speaker 3: forum like that where it's just like, let's sit down

860
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Speaker 3: and talk about this case, you can't bring your your

861
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Speaker 3: stupid bullharn and megaphon into the into the Supreme Court, Okay,

862
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: you can't put on Cardi b music to drown out

863
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Speaker 3: Justice Thomas when he makes a point you don't like

864
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: when you're in that. When they're in that forum, they

865
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Speaker 3: can't compete. They just it totally falls apart, which is

866
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Speaker 3: why they prefer to stay in places where they could

867
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Speaker 3: just scream and and go crazy and try to drown

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Speaker 3: you out. Because I think to your point, to your question,

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Speaker 3: I do think that almost all these people on this

870
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Speaker 3: side of the issue at some level, they know that

871
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Speaker 3: they don't have a case and that what they're saying

872
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Speaker 3: is fundamentally incoherent. They know they know that it's indefensible,

873
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Speaker 3: and so they don't want to be in a spot

874
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Speaker 3: where they have to defend it, which is why we

875
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Speaker 3: have to keep forcing them to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so if we get the Supreme Court ruling that

877
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Speaker 1: I think you would be optimistic we're going to get

878
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Speaker 1: that allows the state of Tennessee to plass a law

879
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Speaker 1: like this. Let's presume that that ends up being the case.

880
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Speaker 1: Still means there are many states where this would be permitted,

881
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Speaker 1: and so I'm sure you've started to do the political analysis.

882
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Speaker 1: Let's say you're in the state of Tennessee, where both

883
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Speaker 1: you and I live. Maybe Illinois is going to have

884
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Speaker 1: really expansive laws that allow people to travel there for

885
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Speaker 1: those surgeries, and maybe a clinic opens in southern Illinois

886
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Speaker 1: or something like that. Should this be a national law?

887
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Speaker 1: What do you think the chances are of that passing?

888
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Speaker 1: And is that the next step here? Presuming the Supreme

889
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Speaker 1: Court says individual states can pass these.

890
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Speaker 3: Laws, Yeah, it should be a national law. Should be

891
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: a federal ban. That's what I've called on Congress to do,

892
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Speaker 3: and I think that it's the right thing to do.

893
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Speaker 3: You know, No, I believe in states rights, but that's

894
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Speaker 3: not absolute. There are some things that no one has

895
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Speaker 3: the right to do that does states to have the

896
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Speaker 3: right now do. And one of those things is to

897
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Speaker 3: abuse children. And I don't think any states you have

898
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Speaker 3: the right to legalize the medical experimentation on children, the

899
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Speaker 3: abuse of children, which is, of course is what this is.

900
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Speaker 3: So to me, it's it's obviously morally right. If you

901
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Speaker 3: get a Supreme Court decision, you're on solid constitutional grounds,

902
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 3: of course, And it's a political win for the Republicans too,

903
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Speaker 3: because even if they think, well, we don't have the

904
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Speaker 3: numbers right now, I'm not sure if we have the

905
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Speaker 3: numbers actually pass a federal ban. I think that they could,

906
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Speaker 3: that they do, but even if they don't, only one

907
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: way to find out. And also, you put the Democrats

908
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Speaker 3: in the position of actually having to speak up and

909
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: defend the other side of this and explain why, you know,

910
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: chemical castration of children is a great idea. Put them

911
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: in the spot of actually having to defend it. Because

912
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: I tell you this, they don't want to like this.

913
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: This is not a fight. They want. It's not a

914
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: conversation they want to have. Most of the Democrats are

915
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 3: embarrassed of it. As I said, they know they're wrong,

916
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Speaker 3: So force them to talk about it, force them to

917
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: actually make them make their case. So I see it

918
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Speaker 3: as a as a win win.

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Speaker 1: Why Matt, I'm speaking of Matt Walsh as movies? Am

920
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: I racist? And what is a woman? I've seen them both,

921
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Speaker 1: placing them both. They're excellent. Also Daily Wire host does

922
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Speaker 1: a great podcast.

923
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Speaker 3: Matt.

924
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Speaker 1: Why does the left want this so badly? Because to

925
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Speaker 1: your point, they there's clearly this sense of we'll lose

926
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Speaker 1: the argument if it's a real argument in public, if

927
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Speaker 1: it's an actual debate, So we have to coerce, we

928
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: have to sort of undermine in in uh, you know,

929
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: asymmetric ways and use corporate pressure and no accountability and

930
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Why does the left want this so badly?

931
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Speaker 4: Like?

932
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: Why is the transagenda something that they're willing to go

933
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Speaker 1: all in on and take real losses like that they

934
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Speaker 1: them add I'm you know, she's for they them or

935
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: whatever that did have real impact in the election. So

936
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Speaker 1: why do they want this so badly?

937
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Speaker 3: Well? I think you know, maybe at a sort of

938
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Speaker 3: fundamental philosophical level, you know, when you get down to it.

939
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Speaker 3: This is for me, leftism is all about relatives that

940
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: when you get this this discussion of like how do

941
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: you define wokeness, and that's how I would define it.

942
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: It's basically relative and it's basically the idea that you know,

943
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 3: truth is whatever I say it is. And uh, and

944
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: so as far as that goes, if you can establish

945
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: that we have godlike powers over our own over biology itself,

946
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: and that's kind of like the ultimate relativistic statement, and

947
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: you've sort of driven truth and reality out of the

948
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Speaker 3: public sphere. So so I think on the deepest philosophical level,

949
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: that's probably what they get out of it. But I

950
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: also think that I'm not sure how how badly they

951
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: do want it anymore. I think that at least, you know,

952
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 3: the activist for one thing, but Democrat politicians. You look

953
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 3: at what happened just during this last presidential campaign Tamala Harris,

954
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: as you point out, Trump was hitting her on the

955
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: the Trands stuff, and rightly so, Kamala was not out

956
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: campaigning on this. It seemed to me she didn't really

957
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: want to talk about it. And uh, I think for

958
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: a lot of Democrat politicians. They kind of got in,

959
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: They got into deep on the trans stuff, and I

960
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: think they're probably deep than they wish that they were. They,

961
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: you know, five six years ago was a winning political

962
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 3: issue and so they just embraced it and said, Okay,

963
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 3: we're winning on this. It's not a winning issue anyone,

964
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: not here. And now they were close to it, and

965
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: I think that they just want it to go away,

966
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 3: that they don't want to talk about it. Well, there's

967
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: one way to make this go away, and that's to

968
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: protect kids, to ban this nationwide, and then we can

969
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 3: all move on and then we don't have talk about

970
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: at least that part of the problem anymore.

971
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: It's amazing how they claim it's not a problem when

972
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw this, Matt. The LPGA had to

973
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: come out with a new policy to stop men from

974
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: being able to identify as women and try to win

975
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: women's golf championships. And this is unique in golf at

976
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: least because anyone who plays golf knows there are women's teas.

977
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: That is the ability and theory of men. And I

978
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: say in theory because I certainly challenged this on a

979
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: regular basis to hit the ball further than women is

980
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: not in question. Men are bigger, stronger, faster, and so

981
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: in golf in particular, they can drive the ball farther.

982
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: That's why you have different tea boxes. But embedded in

983
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: the yelp PGA rule even is something that was being

984
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: debated yesterday and I don't know if you've dove into

985
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: this yet, but it says you have to play as

986
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: the gender you're born as unless you undergo these treatments

987
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: pre puberty, which actually just encourages these treatments, right because

988
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Speaker 1: then people say, well, I can't be a real woman

989
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Speaker 1: unless I start this at ten or twelve or thirteen

990
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Speaker 1: years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're exactly right, and that's I know

992
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: there are conservative who are kind of celebrating this decision

993
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: by the LPGA, which on the surface, it's first of all,

994
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Speaker 3: I don't give anyone credit for being right about this,

995
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Speaker 3: especially you know, years after the fact, but you know,

996
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: it does seem it's a better policy than what there

997
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: was before. But I think you're right. You have to

998
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 3: look for those little like loopholes that they put in there.

999
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: And if you're saying that, well, if you go through

1000
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Speaker 3: male puberty, then you're not you know you're not eligible.

1001
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: Then yes, that becomes an argument the transactist, I'm sure

1002
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: have already taken and they're gonna say, well, see, there

1003
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Speaker 3: you go. That's all we got start drugging the kids

1004
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 3: much earlier. So for I don't know if if that's

1005
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: the result they intend, but that is the kind of

1006
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: press that you set up, and which is why you

1007
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: don't need The policy should be pretty simple. It doesn't

1008
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: matter puberty. Is this that if you are a male,

1009
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Speaker 3: it means you're not a woman. It means you don't

1010
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: belong in the women's league. Period. End of story. Let's

1011
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: move on.

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Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, everybody, Matt again, great work. Appreciate you making

1013
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Speaker 1: the time for us today and any time you want

1014
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Speaker 1: to come and chat with us about this or anything else,

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Speaker 1: always welcome.

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