WEBVTT - "I'M ADDICTED TO LOVE"

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, holy shit, I'm actually on with GEK.

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<v Speaker 2>What a baby? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm better now that you're here, sick. How's life, buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Hit me? Hit me in the balls?

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<v Speaker 2>Gets get crazy? Come on, baby, come on, come on man,

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<v Speaker 2>hit me, sir, hit me, hit me, hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So I figure I should talk about my

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<v Speaker 1>codependency because that's what I talked to about with my

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<v Speaker 1>actual therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure yeah, sure, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So let's see. So I'm in recovery. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>five months clean off of fetanyl.

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<v Speaker 2>Congrats, I thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I normally tell people my my drugs of choice are slow,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sex, love, opiates, and women.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I really only.

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<v Speaker 1>Abstained from the opiates. And my therapist is like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how you could literally say that you'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>eat dog shit than do dope again, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>abstain from women. And I normally replied with the joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, you know, it's hard when they just

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<v Speaker 1>throw themselves at me. But I feel like like I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up alone a lot, Like I was a latch

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<v Speaker 1>tea kid, you know, like I make sure I was

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<v Speaker 1>up in time for school, got home, did my homework,

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<v Speaker 1>fed myself, showered, make sures in bed bird.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I seek attention because I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>it as a kid, which I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people do. But yeah, what are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 2>What are my thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My god? Uh slow interesting sex love, opiates women. Opiates

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it's the odd one out of that acronym. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why opiates? Why is opiates finding itself in that acronym.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like I went, I went to rehab like

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<v Speaker 1>for the opiates and then come to find out that,

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<v Speaker 1>like my codependency was like a bigger issue, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what code the whole codependency thing? What does that

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<v Speaker 2>look like? Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is how does that manifest itself? A codependency addiction?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I like constantly like have to be talking to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>if not like multiple women, because I get that dopamine

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<v Speaker 1>hit from the attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the like negative end of the spectrum, like

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<v Speaker 1>if I get ghosted or like I don't hear back

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<v Speaker 1>for a bit. It's like books at my day and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I could like a week or two ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I went on this date, and uh, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear back from this girl for like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days before our date. It went really well, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I was like really shitty. I was like, I'm too

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous to be ghosted?

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<v Speaker 2>Is by the way? I can I just say this?

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<v Speaker 2>And is this not? Like? Everyone? Is this not most people? Do?

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<v Speaker 2>Most people not? And I'm not gonna I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>most I don't think it's a universal experience to like

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<v Speaker 2>need I mean, it is, of course a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that are like want to be talking to multiple

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<v Speaker 2>people at once, but a lot of people only want

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking to one person at once. But it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that a kind of a universal experience to feel

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<v Speaker 2>shitty when you've been ghosted?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it is, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So why what do the opiates? Are the opiates just

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<v Speaker 2>just a thing on the sidelines, or are they intertwined

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<v Speaker 2>in the the sex and love?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, It's like I feel like it was intertwined. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize it at the time, but after like

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<v Speaker 1>going to treatment and stuff, It's like if I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to get high and have that sense of ease

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<v Speaker 1>and comfort, I didn't have to seek out attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Yeah, that makes sense. Hmmm mmm yeah. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're just kind of trying to fix some chemical,

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<v Speaker 2>uh maladjustments in your brain, whether it be through drugs

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<v Speaker 2>or through another person.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, M And so how has it been being five

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<v Speaker 2>months sober?

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool, Like my they call it like a

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<v Speaker 1>pink cloud of early sobriety where you're like, fuck, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the that's kind of coming gone, coming up

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<v Speaker 1>some like half a year. So now it's just life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to live life on life terms. I

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of like volunteer work because they say

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a good way to stay sober. I like

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<v Speaker 1>help lead like heroin Anonymous meetings, which Heroin Anonymous just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of encompasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all opiates.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do like aa like any sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>anonymous program. I volunteer with the special needs like twice

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<v Speaker 1>a month and once a week I go to pet

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<v Speaker 1>COO and I volunteer with like the place where they

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<v Speaker 1>have the like kitten adoptions. Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that all sounds nice man. Yeah, have you been

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying the five months of being sober?

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I've made like a move to a new town I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Prescott, Arizona. So it's all my friends up

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<v Speaker 1>here are sober. You know, I don't know where to

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<v Speaker 1>find dope up here. You know. Oh you uh new geography,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a new start. M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And what are you What does sobriety look like in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like sex, are you like upstanding from like

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<v Speaker 2>having sex with anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>So they call that emotional sobriety. So it's like anytime

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<v Speaker 1>that I would like have sex with somebody, or even

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm like talking to people, they call it acting

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<v Speaker 1>out right. They have they have a sex and love

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<v Speaker 1>addicts anonymous, which I went for a bit, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this dude was talking about how he fox dogs and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is not I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, you know what's crazy? I bet And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of a something and I know this is

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<v Speaker 2>probably an invasion of a sacred space, but uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know when a guy start when a guy is in

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting and he starts talking about having sex with dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>is everyone else in the meeting like oh shit? Even

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<v Speaker 2>I am like that's the lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're thinking it, but you're not like

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to like comment on something that's well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like you can, but you can't like direct it

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<v Speaker 1>at them. This is a cross cross like if I interrupt, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>if I interrupt wh somebody's sharing, or if I go

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<v Speaker 1>to my share and I'm like this, fuck, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like I've never you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, there's this comedian named there's this comedian named Greg

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<v Speaker 2>Roguel and I think he did this joke on an

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<v Speaker 2>episode of Louis or maybe I just saw him do

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<v Speaker 2>the joke. I don't know, but he has this joke

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<v Speaker 2>about Tiger Woods where he's like, you know, they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the news calling Tiger Woods a sex addict. These

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<v Speaker 2>were beautiful women he was having sex with. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>he was having sex with like a dead chicken, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, wow, that guy is addicted to sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When when I went to treatment, they were asking me

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<v Speaker 1>about like my sexuality and like promiscuity and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, I'm pan sexual, and I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, when it comes to like sleeping with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally told my therapist, I'm like, if somebody's down

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<v Speaker 1>to clown, we're going to the circus, you know, fucking interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get mine, And she was like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you might be a sex addict.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone is down to say that again, if someone

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<v Speaker 2>is down to clown, I'm going to the circus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody's down to clown, we're going to the circus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I've lived a lot of my life

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<v Speaker 2>like that too. Does that make someone a sex addict?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you preoccupied with sex or like relationships?

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<v Speaker 2>What is preoccupied? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if you think about it often for more than

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty seconds at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I think about sex for more than thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 2>at a.

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<v Speaker 1>Time multiple times throughout the day?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably do? Is that not normal?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>How many? What's defined multiple?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't they like never told me like an exact number.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, if I'm preoccupied with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Well? You know what's about is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>I saw some TikTok that was like, uh, humans are

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<v Speaker 2>our only biological derivative is to have sex. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if there was truly a god, like, the only actual

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of life is to have sex. Like that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only like inherent one, So it makes sense. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only that's the thing that our bodies are hardwired

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<v Speaker 2>to do, is to We're biological programmed for the meaning

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<v Speaker 2>of life being to eat and to have sex and reproduce.

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<v Speaker 2>That's our like biological hardware or whatever programming. So of

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<v Speaker 2>course it's gonna take up, you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>brain space, is it not?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you thinking about sex right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like are you thinking yeah, well we're talking like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you like thinking about it in like a horny way?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, me neither, but I you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking about it, yes, which is a step

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<v Speaker 2>above thinking about something. Is talking about something. If I

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<v Speaker 2>talked about sex multiple times a day all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>that would probably be a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, okay, let me think, Let me think, Let me think,

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<v Speaker 2>Let me think. So, what's the future plan for you, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>The future plan?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 1>Like just in general or like with this subject.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start start with with this subject and then we

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<v Speaker 2>can go into general.

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<v Speaker 1>So with this subject, I feel like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>good for me each focus more on myself and not

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<v Speaker 1>just like trying to get some tail or, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to find somebody to to fill the hole

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<v Speaker 1>within myself that I need to, ye know, do on

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<v Speaker 1>my own. You know, like they say, you can't love

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<v Speaker 1>somebody until you truly love yourself, because they come, they

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<v Speaker 1>become like my whole world, Like I do the whole

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<v Speaker 1>like insist treatment, which probably isn't a good thing because

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like if they if I like, like if

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<v Speaker 1>I lose them, I lose like a part of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I know, but like, isn't that fucking that's

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<v Speaker 2>so stupid, you know. Uh, I'm I'm sorry to react

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<v Speaker 2>so strongly, but uh yeah, but it's like, of course

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<v Speaker 2>that's it's so it's the one thing. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this, I was rantic about this on the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast recently. But it's so stupid to be like that's

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<v Speaker 2>not healthy because it's like, you know, it's like saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if my wife died and left, if my wife left

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<v Speaker 2>me or cheated on me or died, I would feel

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<v Speaker 2>like losing a part of myself and that's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, it's fucking yea, this is life, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to I think, I think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something about like therapy and about psycho whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, there's something very sterile in all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean? Do you are you

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<v Speaker 2>picking up what I'm saying, Like I need to have

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect emotional whatever with everything, And it's like life

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<v Speaker 2>is not sterile. It's beyond our attempts to sterilize it

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<v Speaker 2>with therapeutic whatever. That's at least how I feel in

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<v Speaker 2>this moment. So I think it's I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>there is a correct way to love. There's things that

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<v Speaker 2>are glaringly unhealthy and glaringly toxic, but then there's things

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<v Speaker 2>that are just like, well, yeah, you form a connection

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<v Speaker 2>with someone because of oxytocin or whatever, and when they

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<v Speaker 2>are no longer there, it sucks, you know, And when

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<v Speaker 2>they are there, it is good and there's no and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the emotional sterilization is just attempting to

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<v Speaker 2>tempting to avoid the sucks part. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's that that doesn't happen. You know, there's no reason

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that you should be exempt from things occasionally sucking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what I would like an example it being unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I was with this girl for like four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years, and I was like saving up

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<v Speaker 1>her ring and stuff and it didn't work out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was using at the time, and like she's

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<v Speaker 1>just like I can't do this. She actually she like

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<v Speaker 1>was prepared to leave me, and then like stayed with

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<v Speaker 1>me like through like the first time that I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get sober, which shows like she actually really cared.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when we ended up splitting up, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like use the money that I saved for the

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<v Speaker 1>ring to go to Peru and go to like an

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<v Speaker 1>Iowas to retreat, but before I got my passport, I

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<v Speaker 1>releft m So it's like it's, you know, is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>such a big part of you that you're gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, self sabotage or you know what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you like the concept of like you're filling

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<v Speaker 2>a hole, and it's like, well, if it's not this lady,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's gonna be fucking drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll fill the hole with another hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. Uh it's weird, make it. I mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we all I don't want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think that this is a bummer. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, aren't we all kind of filling a hole?

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<v Speaker 2>In some sense? Is in a lot? Is in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot I'd love to have. I really would love to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to more. Uh, you know, get alternative perspectives on

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<v Speaker 2>this from you know, whatever philosophy douche bag people there are.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, I mean, isn't a lot of life filling

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<v Speaker 2>a hole? I mean, like our like is having friends,

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<v Speaker 2>Filling a hole is getting is achieving things. Filling a

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<v Speaker 2>hole is like working out, filling a hole, having kids,

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<v Speaker 2>having like like all these like positive things. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>filling a hole of some kind. Yeah, everyone, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>and so I guess it's just about filling the hole

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<v Speaker 2>with as much things that are considered positive instead of

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<v Speaker 2>negative so that you look back on your life and

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoy it. But yeah, you know it feels a

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<v Speaker 2>little complicated. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, life's the trip.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name again, Sterling? Sterling? Sterling, Sterling, Sterling? How

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<v Speaker 2>did you feel about this phone call? Sterling?

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<v Speaker 1>I was stoke that I actually got on mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're you're a good guy, Sterling. I like you.

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<v Speaker 2>You seem like a nice fella.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Mike Boy's gig.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, I'm trying to is anything I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>if there's anything else? This was an interesting thing. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like you'll you'll be able to like have

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<v Speaker 2>do you do you feel optimistic about your ability to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of work on your sexual relationships and have them

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<v Speaker 2>be more healthy to your to your definition?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, Like if I actually try to

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<v Speaker 1>start working on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever have would you ever have sex with

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<v Speaker 2>a dog?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's good. I don't think that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a good thing to do. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there anything else you want to say to the people

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<v Speaker 2>of the computer before we go starling?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm. It's better to be a dopeless hope addict than

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<v Speaker 1>a dopeless than a hopeless dope addict, and don't do drugs. Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Say that way, hopeless. It's better to be a dopeless.

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<v Speaker 1>A dopeless hope addict than a hopeless dope addict.

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<v Speaker 2>A dopeless hope addict and a hopeless dope addict.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. She put down a shirt or a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking bracelet or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a bumper sicker.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling Sterling. I appreciate you word.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Geck.

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<v Speaker 2>They came in. Likewise, that was sterling slow sex love

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<v Speaker 2>opiates women. I stole the feel like, Yeah, no, that

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<v Speaker 2>all that all makes sense. I think it's bad to

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<v Speaker 2>have sex with dogs. I'll say that on the record.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, where's your shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's my shirt?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Where's your shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>Jessica? What's up? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>How's life?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do one all right. I decided to call

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<v Speaker 4>in today because I figured you'd be interested in my

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<v Speaker 4>story on nineteen And to put it simply, I'm going blind.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going blind?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So, I have a rare genetic condition called Stargart disease.

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<v Speaker 4>It affects one in ten thousand people worldwide, and it

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<v Speaker 4>basically like I'm losing my central vision. So it's supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to deteriorate over time until all I really have is peripheral.

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<v Speaker 4>But my perferal vision could go to So.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know I'm not wearing like a skin color.

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<v Speaker 4>Shirt because I have Well that's a good question. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a lot of functional vision at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can see a lot of things, but I

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<v Speaker 4>have a hard time reading, recognizing faces and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but what, yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is I got bullied in high school because

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<v Speaker 4>people didn't believe me.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa what.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, people would say, oh, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 4>pretends to be blind because my vision will fluctuate. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's better, sometimes it's worse. And I would use a

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<v Speaker 4>white cane to get around sometimes, and people say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>she doesn't use a cannel all the time. She's pretending

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<v Speaker 4>to be blind, or like I knew her, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because I got diagnosed at thirteen. I didn't always know

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<v Speaker 4>I was going blind. Something was wrong with my vision,

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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't have the tools to help me. So

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<v Speaker 4>people are like, yeah, I knew her before, and she

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't blind before. People would step in front of me,

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<v Speaker 4>throw things at me, you know, the usual.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, crazy crazy. So what are so? You're nineteen us?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to school? Are you? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing now? I assume you've graduated high school? Right? What

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So I took a gap year to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>figure out what I wanted to do, especially like things

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<v Speaker 4>that I could do. I want to like two different

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know if you ever hear there's like

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<v Speaker 4>camps and stuff for people. I feel like there's like

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<v Speaker 4>a camp for kids with epilepsy and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to two blind camps, camps for blind kids,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of where I found that I can

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<v Speaker 4>be a nurse, which is something that I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going into a nursing program in December.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Cool? Yeah, is that something that you think your

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<v Speaker 2>condition will affect your ability to do.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm only going for my LPN, so that's a step

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<v Speaker 4>above a CNA and a step below and aren So

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<v Speaker 4>there might be some things that I won't be able

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<v Speaker 4>to do, like give an IV or take blood, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>But not all nurses that have to perform those functions.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you should know how. But as long as

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<v Speaker 4>I get through the school, I spoke to someone from

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<v Speaker 4>the board of nursing, as long as I graduate from

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<v Speaker 4>the program, I can become a nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Cool hmm. So what's your situation like at home? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>are your parents helping you out? And you like, is

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<v Speaker 2>everyone supportive and whatnot?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my parents are very supportive, so are my brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I can't drive, so My parents are always,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, open to giving me rides wherever I need

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<v Speaker 4>to go. I have a pretty good support system, I'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>I have some blind friends to so that helps.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, where'd you meet these other blind friends?

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<v Speaker 4>Blind camp?

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<v Speaker 2>Blind camp? What's I got to know everything about blind camp?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'd love to tell you. So the first one

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<v Speaker 4>I went to, and I never knew this was a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got diagnosed when I was thirteen, and that

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<v Speaker 4>was COVID. And then I went back to school and

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<v Speaker 4>I had a vision teacher to teach me things like

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<v Speaker 4>brail and whatnot. But she told me about these blind camps.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what on earth are you talking about? And

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<v Speaker 4>I found out that through government funded organizations like the

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<v Speaker 4>Center for the Blind and Visually Appaired at least that's

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<v Speaker 4>what's in my state. I live in Pennsylvania every summer

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<v Speaker 4>and there's a camp at the CBBI Center where kids

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<v Speaker 4>go for free and we spend about like three weeks

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<v Speaker 4>in dorms and we learn things like how to navigate

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<v Speaker 4>the world, you know, with vision loss. So we learned

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen skills, technology skills, communication skills, career skills, do some

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<v Speaker 4>braille orientation and mobility, and also we do fun things

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<v Speaker 4>on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>What kinds of fun things do you guys do on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekends?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, So I forget what the place is called.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you go and it's like it's called medieval Times.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, oh, you guys, the medieval times.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, some people were pissed off. The completely blind kids

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<v Speaker 4>were kind of pissed off because they couldn't see anything,

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<v Speaker 4>but the food was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there, I mean, I mean, you know, what what

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<v Speaker 2>do you what are you gonna do? I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could go to like a fucking orchestra or a concert

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<v Speaker 2>or something something more auditory than Medieval Times. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>blind No, Actually, the blind kids have a point. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got a point. What the fuck is the point. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like saying, hey, we're gonna go I'll go see a

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<v Speaker 2>movie or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh we did?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, So for blind people, you can request special headphones

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<v Speaker 4>that tell you what's going on in the movie. Every

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<v Speaker 4>movie has it. It's called auditory description that you can

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<v Speaker 4>turn on, so it tells you what's happening in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, Wow, No, okay, I knew about that, But is

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<v Speaker 2>that like a thing that you just can go to

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<v Speaker 2>any movie theater and request.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, my brother works at a movie theater too,

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<v Speaker 4>so I mean, most of the time the headphones don't work,

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<v Speaker 4>so I need someone next to me to tell me

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on. But they do have that.

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<v Speaker 2>M What movie did you see?

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<v Speaker 4>It was the live action of the Little Mermaids. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the one that I saw. We had two choices. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember what the other choice was. I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember what with that at the time, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I decided to see. It was all right, it

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<v Speaker 4>was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so, what did any drama ever go down in

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<v Speaker 2>blind camp?

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<v Speaker 4>This one necessarily no, But then one I went to

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 4>at Penn State, we definitely had drama. So that was

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<v Speaker 4>the following year. It was ten days long. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's learning how to navigate college life. And my roommate

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<v Speaker 4>was the most insufferable person. Insufferable person on this planet,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so my roommate, oh my god, her name is Ada,

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<v Speaker 4>but she always told us to call her this name,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't remember what it was either. But at first,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we were all understanding that she's on the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on the spectrum too, so I understand being socially awkward,

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<v Speaker 4>not understand social cues and whatnot, maybe being a little annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>But this girl pissed me off so bad. Okay, let

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 4>me tell you one of the things that she did.

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I remember we were talking, so she has a lot

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 4>of provisions, a lot worse than one. And I remember

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 4>she was telling me, well, well, you're lucky. You're lucky

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 4>you get to see better than me. You know that.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Why would you say that to me? Why would you

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 4>say that to me? I remember I was doing my

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 4>makeup in the dorm and everyone's waiting on me. So

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 4>my friend asked, hey, like, ado, where Jessica. She's like,

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 4>she's putting on her face paint or whatever. I don't

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 4>like makeup or something. I don't know. That wasn't all

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 4>of it, though, I'm trying to remember, because I like

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 4>the thing is, I remember that feeling of how irritating

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 4>she was, but it's kind of hard to recall like

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 4>everything that she did, so I'm gonna be.

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 2>There are a hierarchy of in terms of like, like,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>are like the most popular kids at blind camp? Are

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>they the more blind kids or the less blind kids?

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Who know the funny ones.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 2>The funny ones is there? There's no like uh uh

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>cast system based on who is more or less blind.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like some of us are, okay, not a

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 4>social hierarchy. I got a little confused there. So some

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 4>kids are more, some kids are completely blind, some kids

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 4>can see shadows. It really depends. Some kids have spots

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 4>in their vision, some kids have tunnel vision. Your vision,

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 4>I think needs to be a certain amount of terrible

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 4>to get in, and I get it. I got in

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 4>both of them. Yeah.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Mmm, do you still hang out with anyone from blind Camp?

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 2>They still talk to any of them?

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my friend Wendy, she's sleeping over tomorrow night. I

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 4>believe she has a stigmatism, which is when you're like

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>eyeballs or not shaped the right way, and the stagnus,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>which is when your eyeball is constantly like shake back

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 4>and forth. So that's that's her blind story. But I

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 4>only ever met one person with my disease, because it's

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 4>that rare, because one in ten thousand. You hear that,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 4>but I looked it up because I'm terrible with statistics

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 4>and numbers. That's point zero one percent of the population worldwide.

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Mm I you know, it's it's a it's a pretty

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 4>lonely feeling. Not gonna lie, but you know, my friend

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 4>Wendy's coming over tomorrow, so that's cool.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Hm hmmm.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think if I have any other any

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>other questions about blind Camp. Is it true that your

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>other senses start to become stronger.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 4>Not unintentionally. You have to learn those things yourself. It's

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 4>not like you go blind and suddenly you have a

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 4>heightened sense of touch, smell, hearing. You have to learn

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>to utilize those things in such a way on your own.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And have you done that with any of your other senses?

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I would touch. Learning brail is really hard because you, like,

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 4>look at it, it is so small you can barely

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 4>know what you're feeling. When I first started learning braille,

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 4>I was like, what is this? What is this? Because

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 4>I just couldn't tell what letter was what. It's actually

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 4>really difficult, but eventually you get used to it. As

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 4>far as me hearing goes, I can never tell what

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 4>anyone's saying, but that's just because I suck at the

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 4>auditory processing aspect of it.

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you want the people listening to this podcast

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to know about being blind? That maybe they haven't thought

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 2>about before.

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to This is the part where I'm probably

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 4>going to talk a lot. This is why I wanted

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 4>to get on here. Oh okay, Yeah, so I did

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 4>say that I got bullied in high school because people

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 4>did not believe me. You don't understand my high school

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 4>had thirty. Let me go back with this number, like

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 4>it's a really big high school.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Hold on, I'm sorry, your high school thirty? What?

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Hold on?

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Huh?

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 4>I need to look at the exact because I'm on

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 4>the spot right now, you know.

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thirty thirty thousand, no.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Not thirty, Okay, three thousand, two hundred and ten students.

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty crazy for a high school. That it's a lot.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 4>And to feel like I had that entire school going

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 4>up against me was a lot. I didn't know who

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.959
<v Speaker 4>I could trust. There was this one girl that I

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 4>thought I trusted, you know, we grew up knowing each other.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 4>She had heard everything I had to say in class.

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>I had this one class. It was a small class.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 4>It was like emotional support, math or something. I don't know. Anyways,

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 4>she heard all the things that I had to deal with,

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 4>and still she went behind my back and told people. Yeah,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 4>she actually does pretend to be blind. So I found

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>her in the hallway one day and I was pissed off.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 4>I swung at her and well, I missed, And so

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, what does that tell you? Ignorance when it

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 4>comes to disabilities like this can do a lot of damage.

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I in my senior year, I had really thought about

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>taking my life because I couldn't deal with it anymore.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 4>The constant harassment, people going behind my back, who I

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 4>thought I could trust in spreading this rumor. It was awful,

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 4>It really was. I felt like I felt like an amusement,

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 4>a circus class. People would laugh at me in the hallways,

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 4>take pictures of me, take videos of me, like I

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 4>was some zoo animal. It was. It was ridiculous.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And how did you feel once you graduated a lot better?

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.919
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have to deal with that anymore. I mean,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 4>there's still people saying those things about me. But what

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 4>am I gonna do? You know, I still live in

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 4>my hometown. I'm only nineteen. I can't get away from

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 4>these people. But I just I hope that one day

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>these people that harass me will realize what they had

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 4>done and that blindness is a spectrum. There are all

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 4>different kinds of blindness. It's not you're blind or you're not,

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 4>or you wear glasses or you don't. Right, I'm losing

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 4>my central vision and that's something I have to live

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 4>with on top of the bullying that I dealt with.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Are you optimistic for the future in general?

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 4>I definitely am great. I think my past might haunt

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 4>me forever, but that's okay because going into this nursing program,

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 4>I feel right about it. I feel like this might

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 4>be the best thing for me.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 2>In what way do you feel like the past will

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>haunt you forever?

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 4>I graduated two years ago and I still think about

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 4>it all the time. The bullying that I dealt with

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 4>it was really bad. I mean, like I just every

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 4>time I passed by I could hear people talking about

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Not every time, but you know, the paranoia that set

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 4>in with these kinds of things, going around and feeling

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 4>like no one would believe you. On top of being

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 4>recently told that I was going blind. People didn't believe

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 4>me and they were not nice sometime in trust me.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Just things like that, there's emotions they stick with you

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 4>for a long time.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 2>M Do you feel like you have a pretty good

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>community with I mean, you know, both both your friends

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>from blind Camp and other friends.

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do. I don't have a lot of friends

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 4>outside of blind Camp. That is a whole nother story.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 4>I lost them my friends in high school. But yeah,

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean my blind friends are you know, people that

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I can fall back on, lean on. But I feel

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 4>like no one else understands me.

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 4>Pretty weird people.

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in what way?

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Okay? So between my boyfriend and I, my boyfriend's watching

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 4>this live stream right now. Oh my god, say hi Eden,

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 4>say hi to him? Please?

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:56.959
<v Speaker 2>Is he here?

0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Does he want? He can say hi if he wants.

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 4>No, I'll say, you say hi to him. He's watching

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 4>the live stream.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, you said what you're saying me say hi

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 2>to him?

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't even. I don't even is he like here here?

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, is he with next to you?

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, if if he's next, I'll say, I don't

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>know if he's next to you.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 4>It's okay. It's the privilege to be acknowledged by the gecko. Anyhow,

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 4>the nine eleven jokes went crazy at the second line Camp.

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I want to I don't know what that was about

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 4>to be honest, I feel like that.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 4>So when we first all met each other our first

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 4>day at the Penn State camp, we have this objective.

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 4>We all got got put into groups and we were

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 4>given like these I don't remember what they're called. They're

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 4>like rods and stuff. You put them in the whole

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 4>kids play with them. It's it's really hard to explain,

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 4>but if you saw it, you know what I'm talking about.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 4>But anyways, it's a group activity, who can build the

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 4>tallest tower whatever. My group kind of got sidetracked and

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.240
<v Speaker 4>started building the twin towers, the plane and the Pentagon.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Interesting today? Get today? I get mad at you guys.

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, no, you weren't even.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Alive when nine to eleven happened.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 4>No, I was.

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 2>You aren't even alive? Nope, I don't think. I don't

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>think it was, are you. I don't think. Are you

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 2>saying that nine to eleven wasn't your idea?

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, that wasn't my idea either.

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it was how did you meet your boyfriend?

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 4>So he used to work at it nifty fifties? You

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 4>know what that is? Right? He's little restaurant's supposed to

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 4>be like the fifties or whatever.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I don't know a place called uh

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>chea burger chea burger, but I don't know a nifty fifties.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 4>So it's basically like it's like imagine kind of like

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 4>it's to sit in. It's like a burger joint, fast

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 4>food place, kind of saying restaurant, but it's supposed to

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 4>be themed like the fifties. Anyways, I went there with

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 4>my friend Natalie, she's on my friend anymost fucked that bitch,

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 4>but I'll get into that in a moment. But anyways,

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 4>I saw him. He was my waiter, and I thought

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 4>he was cute, like you know, he got He was

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 4>close enough so I could actually see his face, and

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 4>I thought he was cute. So I left my number

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 4>and he texted me and we started going on dates

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.959
<v Speaker 4>from there. And it's like a year and a half later.

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>So why don't you Why don't you like this lady

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>that you just said you don't like?

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh my sorry, So Natalie, I remember in my second

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 4>blind camp, I was flaming this bitch, but I decided

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 4>to talk to her again after her mom died. But

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 4>she when I say secret animas, So do you like

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 4>some friends are not your friends. This girl was jealous

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 4>of me before I met Aiden. I'd be talking to

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 4>other guys and whatnot, and she would see if she

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 4>could talk to them too, or she'd be like, oh

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 4>my god, call lease share him.

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, what will do?

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Is that appropriate behavior?

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And and this is a person who used to be

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>your friends?

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Absolutely? I just like.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And this is what? When when did you stop being

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>friends with this girl? Like when you were seventeen or something?

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Then?

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well listen, here's let me tell you something.

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna act like a fucking

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go you know what. You know what, everyone,

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going unk mode from now on, no more being,

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>no more of this passive bullshit. I'm going straight up

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>unk mode. I refuse to not Okay, here's what I'm

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. I'm gonna go uncomode. Listen, here's the thing

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna One day, You're gonna you're gonna be uh

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>an old lady, and you're gonna realize that when you

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>were seventeen, not only were you incredibly immature and stupid,

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 2>but everyone around you was incredibly immature and stupid. Not

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>your fault that you're incredibly immature and stupid, but the

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 2>fault of the fact that you're seventeen and you're in

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 2>high school. And so I'm gonna tell you something. You

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:58.919
<v Speaker 2>can either recognize that and let go of your anger now.

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>You could do it when you're in your fifties, or

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you could hold on to it forever and die. So

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>she is, yeah, do you still hang out with her?

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 4>She she's two hours away now, but she keeps harassing

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 4>me in any possible way she can find.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>What do you I don't what is she in your life?

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.919
<v Speaker 2>Or is she what do you mean? What do you mean?

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Is she your friends?

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't want her to be my friend. She thinks

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 4>we're friends, and that's like fucked up of me to do.

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm aware, Okay, all right, wow.

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 4>So I finally stopped talking to her when she told

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:50.720
<v Speaker 4>me that she would never date a blind person. That's

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 4>too far for her. She draws the line because she

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 4>wants them to be able to see her and what

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 4>she looks like.

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>And she said, hold on, all right, all right, okay,

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll I'll let you finish.

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 4>She said, I already have a hard time being friends

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 4>with you because you're losing your vision, because I want

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 4>you to see me. I have a hard time staying

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 4>friends with you because of that.

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>The second, that's a stupid thing to say, But saying

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that they want that, that she wants to not date

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 2>another blind guy, it's totally fair. I'm gonna say that's

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:24.959
<v Speaker 2>totally fair.

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>She said that to.

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 4>The wrong person, you know, I it's okay to think that.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Some I just felt as though that was an inside thought.

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I I feel like, if you're well, it's superb because

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I think if I were blind, i'd want to date

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a non blind person because too, if we're both blind,

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 2>then you know you're the blind leading the blind. You

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>know that expression absolutely at least one person. I think

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 2>it's helpful. It's helpful for at least one person to

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.240
<v Speaker 2>not be blind. I think it's a it's a strong

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>logistical play that she's talking about right now. I don't

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 2>think she should be faulted for it, but I no,

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I agree it was a dick move to say that

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that you that she doesn't want to be friends with

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you because you're blind. That was a dick move. But

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know anything about this lady

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that you are friends with that you hate. She could

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>be She's probably fine, she's probably fine. You're I'm sorry,

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>She's probably fine.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 4>It's not that probably.

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>But but but anyway, fuck, give me your name one

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 2>more time. Jessica, Jessica. And and you know what, you're

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 2>fine too. You're gonna go into medication and you can

0:45:52.560 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 2>go into nursing. It's gonna be good. You know it'll

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>be It'll be good, It'll be good. Well, what was

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 2>your experience of this phone call? How did this phone

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>call feel to you? Was this helpful in any way?

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Was this anything? Was this anything? I'm sorry, I'm today,

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm today is a fucking weird ass to day

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm and I'm just I don't know if I'm

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 2>doing this well today, but I but I but I

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it. Go ahead.

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 4>You kind of put some things into perspective for me.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 4>As far as you know, my relationship with Nattalie, we're

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 4>all fucking immature. In the end, it doesn't completely matter.

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, as long as we are treating each other

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 4>with basically respect, that that is what matters. At the

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 4>end of the day. You know, it's not something to

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 4>whip my head off over, you know.

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, good, well, Jessica, is there anything else you

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>want to say to the people as a computer before

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>we go?

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just you know, everyone be nice, to be nice

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 4>to disable people. I feel like people are either overly

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 4>nice or they are overly ignorant. You know, two things

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 4>can be true at the same time. Also, but I

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 4>just don't want someone else to go through what I

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 4>went through as far as the bullying goes, you know,

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 4>keep an open mind.

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for sharing your story with us, Jessica. I

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it great.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Bye bye.

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 3>From Jared. Hello, Hello, what's up.

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 2>How's it going?

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 3>That's too bad? Honestly pretty good? Low key pretty good?

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Why is it going low key pretty good?

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like I would say, like, the past

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 3>three years has been pretty great. I've had some pretty

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 3>good opportunities to travel the world, and like I was

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 3>actually recently able to accomplish a really big dream something

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 3>that like I've been working towards two for the past

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 3>like and I wanted to say, like three and a

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 3>half four years.

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, I lay it on us man.

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I mean, like the big dreams that like

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 3>actually happened was I visited. I visited New York City

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 3>like for the first time, like in twenty nineteen and

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 3>ever since then, I was like, fuck, I need to

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 3>be here, like this is like the place I want

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 3>to live. And I recently got a job offered to

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 3>start there in like June, and I was living there

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 3>over the summer as well, and it was such a

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 3>good experience.

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Cool, cool, cool, what what what job?

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm basically just another corporate live at a bank.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 2>You gonna get to live You're gonna get to live

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>in New York.

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Though, Yeah, that's a big thing. It's it was like

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>so surreal over the summer because it's like wow, like

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I finally accomplished this dream and like I yeah, I

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 3>just was not something I actually expected to actually happen,

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 3>because I don't know. But like right now, I'm just

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, I what else is the next That's

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of what I've been struggling with.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Okay, so well let's talk because where in New

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 2>York are you?

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 3>So right now? Actually right now, I'm not living in

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 3>New York. I'll be in New York. I'll be back

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 3>in New York like in the summer because right now,

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm in a grad program, so I'll be back when

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I once I finished your program.

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, you'll be back. Oh wait, you're you're You're

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 2>going to New York in the summer of next year.

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like full time jobs. Yeah, and then this

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 3>past I was in the city. Just do an internship

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:03.240
<v Speaker 3>over the summer.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, so you are going to Okuess

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 2>you don't live in New York, but you are guaranteed

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a job that will allow you to live in New

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 2>York in about.

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 3>A year exactly.

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, very cool. Where do you want to live there?

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 3>It depends on the market, but like, ideally I would

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 3>love to live in the East Village again because that

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 3>was such a good experience for a few reasons. I mean,

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 3>the restaurants a were great, the bar seiers there is great.

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 3>The age there is a little too young for me maybe,

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 3>but like I would STI love to live there.

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I am in my late twenties, Okay, I remember when

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 3>I first visit in East Village was like relatively I mean,

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 3>I could be wrong, this is just from my own perspective,

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 3>but like when I first was there, I felt like

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 3>the East Village is more for like mid to late twenties,

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 3>while like I don't know, neighborhoods maybe Murray Hill and

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 3>like Hips Bay was more for like real post undergrad

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 3>type vibes there. But now it's like getting younger and younger.

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, you think have you seen yeah,

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 3>have you seen that in your experience so far?

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I totally. I mean there's certain parts, like a Lower

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:20.399
<v Speaker 2>east Side is like huge, you know, like a lot.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you know, NYU kids are all over

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 2>the Lower east Side, But you know, I don't know.

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the funny thing, right, is because those kids, like

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't know how many of them when

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 2>they get out of like college age, are going to

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 2>stay in New York City. So it seems like that

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just going to keep being like a rotating a

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 2>batch of eighteen to twenty two year olds just kind

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 2>of like coming in and out.

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, that's I feel like that's always been like

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 3>the tradition of like those specific neighborhoods in the city,

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 3>just because like of how crazy it is, Like I know,

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 3>there's like a big like controversial thing too of like

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 3>how people are fluctuating, like you said there's a lot

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:07.320
<v Speaker 3>of turnover in the city because of like how hectic

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 3>it is, and like you know, there's like a very

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.400
<v Speaker 3>few like real New Yorkers. But that's a whole different thing,

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I feel.

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, And you said that the past three years have

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>been really really good. Why have the past three years

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 2>been really really good?

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I've had some I mean, I consider myself really lucky

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and really blessed to have opportunities to travel the world.

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 3>And like I get took my first year of trip

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 3>back in like right when I graduated undergrad and like

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I've been addicted to go and like growing abroad and

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:39.439
<v Speaker 3>like seeing the world since then, and like every year

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I've had the opportunity to go abroad and it's been

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 3>such a great experience. And like a few of the

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 3>past two years I've been able to like build a

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 3>multiple trips to different countries, so that's been like even

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 3>even great, and like you know that on top of

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 3>like you know, actually accomplishing dream, it's been like such

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 3>a great time and like I don't know, the I

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.919
<v Speaker 3>just yeah, super appreciative of like what I've been able

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 3>to see, the places I've been able to go. And

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 3>then like I have plans to keep on traveling as well.

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Nice, Nice, Nice. Where else do you want to go?

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 3>Actually my groad trip, I've been trying to plant it out.

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I want to go to Vietnam and Southeast Asia. I

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.800
<v Speaker 3>really want to do the I could be pronounced it incorrectly,

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 3>but I really want to do the ha Gian Loop.

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 3>I know it's like really popular, but like I've seen

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 3>videos on like TikTok and Instagram. I's like I need

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 3>to experience like that looks beautiful, Like that's something I

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 3>just really want to go.

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Cool. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I think, you know,

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 2>of all the things that I the older I get

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and the more I've kind of achieved in my life,

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the more apathetic I actually become towards a lot of things.

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 2>The amount of things that I truly care about has

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Speaker 2>gone has gone down over the years, which which has

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 2>pros and cons. I think that a man is rich

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>in proportion to the amount of things he's he can

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 2>afford to let alone. You know that phrase, Yeah, I

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of agree with that.

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, yeah, the less you're able to care about,

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 3>the more rich you are, just because like you can

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:25.439
<v Speaker 3>afford to not care about certain things. Is that kind

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 3>of like what you're getting at.

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, a little bit, I was gonna say. But the

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm like, I know for a fact I'm

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna want to keep doing this is traveling for sure.

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think that's something I don't think

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll ever stop doing, at least until you know. I

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>have a list of places that I still really want

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 2>to go. There's probably a lot of places around the

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 2>world that I'll die not having gone to. Like, I

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I mean, let me look at a map here.

0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just start lifting. I'm just gonna start listing

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 2>off countries that I never need to go to.

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I hope you don't put anybody off doing that.

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not about I mean, like where I like,

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, am I ever going to go to Belarus?

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll go to Belarus, I don't know. I'm trying

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to find a country. I'm really trying to find a

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>place from, Like I don't think I'm ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>go there. I want to go to Alaska.

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 3>What about like Antarctic?

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I would love to love to go to the Antarctic.

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll probably never go to Turkmenistan. I'll probably never go to.

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh actually, you know what. I'm looking at a map

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I actually the actually want to go

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>to I want to go to Peru. I'm like, all right,

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 2>there's actually not as many places as I thought that

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.919
<v Speaker 2>I would do that I'll die never going to because

0:55:56.040 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to keep going places exactly. I want to

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 2>see what's I know, Russia is a whole thing right now,

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 2>but maybe when they're not, it'd be it'd be interesting

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to see what's going on there. It's fucking huge, look

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I have that conversation the end of day about Russia.

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:14.839
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, I would consider going there,

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 3>maybe like a few years after conflict ends, but you know,

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 3>who knows it.

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd like to see Moscow. It's just it just

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 2>seems like such a interesting place where it's sucking cold

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and crazy and I don't know, I don't I don't

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.879
<v Speaker 2>know anything about it. I don't know any fucking thing

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 2>about anything. But uh, yeah, I don't know. That's the

0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 2>one thing. Like there's a lot of things where I'm

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.319
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things where I'm like, I don't

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 2>need to do that, you know, Yeah, I know, And

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just like in like whatever, skydiving or like

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 2>when someone's like you got to go to this restaurant,

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'll I don't need to do that ever, ah,

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>or like a party that is that I don't. There's

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things nowadays where I'm like, I just

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>don't fucking need to do that. But the one thing

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I'll just continue to do is yeah, traveling and seeing stuff.

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 2>So uh, I'm with you on that. I think that's

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 2>just cool. So did I don't? Did I ask her

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 2>already what places are all on your bucket list?

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<v Speaker 3>No? But like right now would be like mostly Southeast Asia.

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I haven't. I've been to almost I've been

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 3>to like so, I've been to Europe, I've been to Asia,

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 3>and I've been to South America and obviously live in

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.040
<v Speaker 3>North America, but like I just haven't been to Africa yet,

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 3>which sucks because like I don't know when I'll be

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>able to do that, like after I do this like

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Southeast Asia trip. It's just like I don't know where

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 3>what attractions are cool and like you know, what would

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 3>be like perfect, not like perfect, but like ideal, so

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 3>like what I would want to see I was thinking

0:57:54.480 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 3>about like maybe Mount Kilimandreuro, but I don't know when

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I want to do that, Like that's like different out

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 3>of the priority list. But like right now, I'm like

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 3>for my graduation trip after this grad program, well, I

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 3>want to do like Vietnam on Thailand and maybe like Cambodia,

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 3>just because like that's a really cool part of the world.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I really want to see Cambodia. What's going on in Cambodia?

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh like incre Watt. I think, yeah, it's like super remote,

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 3>like really ancient, like a lot of history, and it's

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 3>like definitely one of the bucket less items I want

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 3>to see.

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Mmmmm. So what is it that attracted you so much

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 2>to New York that you're so stoked about living here?

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 3>That's a great question. It's pretty much everybody has asked

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:44.640
<v Speaker 3>me that, because like you can get from people from

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 3>different broads of the spectrum of like loving the city

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 3>life and like just have no idea or like have

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 3>zero desire to live in any kind of city. It's like,

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 3>so I don't know, like I went't there like right

0:58:56.040 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 3>after like a graduate like undergrad, and I think it's

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 3>just like it's reminded me so much of a college

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 3>campus where it's like it's super lively, there's public transportation,

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 3>and there's always something going on. I think that's like

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 3>the main draw of it for me. I've been around

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:14.880
<v Speaker 3>like obviously I was talking about like being around the

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 3>world and stuff, but like and there's last cities around

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Europe and Asia like that, but like, I don't know,

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.200
<v Speaker 3>there's just like no city that I've been to that

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 3>has made me feel that I have about New York.

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 3>It's really weird. But I also have like this crazy

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 3>not like crazy experience, but interesting experience. It was summer.

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 3>It's where I was like, I don't know where It's

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 3>just like I definitely to come back then.

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 2>What what was the experience?

0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 3>This is actually one of the main things I wanted

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 3>to talk about calling in So this is like I

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's a crazy it's kind of a crazy story.

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I guess, I guess depending on how you ask. But

0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 3>there I'm like kind of like connected with this girl.

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<v Speaker 3>This girl that like like our parents know each other,

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 3>and like we've known about each other since we were kids.

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 3>My parents like worked for her parents at a restaurant,

1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:13.760
<v Speaker 3>and like ever since then we know each other. We

1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 3>known about each other. We went to the same middle school,

1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 3>high school, and college, and we never talked until like

1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:22.640
<v Speaker 3>this past summer where like, you know, she hit me up.

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.960
<v Speaker 3>She saw that like I was living in the city

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and like we actually connected and actually, like you know,

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, this guy girl is actually really cool.

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:37.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're from She's also from the same hometown

1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 3>as me, not in the US, So there's also that

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:45.160
<v Speaker 3>crazy thing like we speak the same language, our native languages,

1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and like, I don't know, it just looked really crazy

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 3>how that kind of works out. And like ever since,

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.280
<v Speaker 3>like we went on like if we hung out a

1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:55.520
<v Speaker 3>few times, and I was like, well, I haven't felt

1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:58.320
<v Speaker 3>this way about a person in a very very long time.

1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like unfortunately, I have the leaves and

1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:04.960
<v Speaker 3>go back to school and I'll be back in a year.

1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Like so yeah, like I'm just I don't know. For me,

1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.320
<v Speaker 3>it's like it sucks about how that happened, but like

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 3>that's such a crazy like thing for life to happen

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<v Speaker 3>that way as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, for life to happen in what way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's I don't know, like more so just like

1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, we've known about each other for so long

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:32.600
<v Speaker 3>and then like we never talked until recently when we're

1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:36.360
<v Speaker 3>like adults. It felt like, I don't know, it's like

1:01:36.400 --> 1:01:39.040
<v Speaker 3>a weird thing that like I might be just playing

1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:41.400
<v Speaker 3>it up too much in my head, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like it's I felt like it was such

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<v Speaker 3>like a romantic thing, like kind of low key like

1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:49.360
<v Speaker 3>movie scirits. Don't want to sound corny about or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you live currently.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now? I live in North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well with city in North Carolina. Uh.

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:03.360
<v Speaker 3>I live in the like Raleigh Durham area.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, So how are you biding your time between

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:08.960
<v Speaker 2>now and when you go back to New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I've I've just been kind of chilling, just hanging

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:18.920
<v Speaker 3>out with my friends. Really, Like I've like since I

1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:21.360
<v Speaker 3>have like a job offer after the grad program, I

1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:23.840
<v Speaker 3>like don't really have to do too much anymore since

1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:26.440
<v Speaker 3>last year is mostly dedicated to trying to find a job.

1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:29.800
<v Speaker 3>So right now, I've just been kind of like chilling

1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:33.240
<v Speaker 3>and like I really put a big emphasis on like

1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:37.520
<v Speaker 3>enjoying them now because, like like I said, like the

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<v Speaker 3>past couple of years, my life's been dedicated trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get to New York and try and just like looking

1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:44.720
<v Speaker 3>forward to that. But now that that's done and I've

1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:47.840
<v Speaker 3>like achieved that, I just need to like I like

1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:49.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of remember reminding myself and it's like I'm in

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:53.040
<v Speaker 3>grad school right now that like this is a very

1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.680
<v Speaker 3>unique position that like I'm probably never going to go

1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 3>back to schools for this, So I need to enjoy

1:02:58.240 --> 1:03:00.560
<v Speaker 3>being in college. I need to be joy or into

1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.040
<v Speaker 3>like in a college town being surrounded by like my

1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:06.680
<v Speaker 3>friends are like within like such a close distance, because

1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I know after this, it's not going to be like

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<v Speaker 3>this ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, that's the weird I mean, that's the

1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:16.920
<v Speaker 2>weird thing about life is that it's very transient, and

1:03:16.960 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 2>you try to make sure that you can enjoy things

1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:25.240
<v Speaker 2>while you can. But also how do I say this, Like, uh,

1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:29.280
<v Speaker 2>whether you enjoy it or you don't enjoy it, it passes anyway,

1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:32.480
<v Speaker 2>so I guess might as well enjoy it. Yeah, can

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<v Speaker 2>You can never you can never hold on to anything.

1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:37.040
<v Speaker 2>It always escapes your grip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's I started to realize that pretty off,

1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:46.120
<v Speaker 3>like relatively often when I was like being abroad and

1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I realized, like Wow, this is a great moment, but

1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:50.840
<v Speaker 3>it's you know, obviously it's not gonna last forever. I

1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:53.560
<v Speaker 3>need to like just enjoy it and not worry about

1:03:53.600 --> 1:03:54.240
<v Speaker 3>it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say your name was, sir?

1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what I put when I first called in,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll just go with Jared.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared, Jared, was there anything else that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about today before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Man, I honestly really appreciate your time. I mean,

1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I've been listening to you since like I don't know,

1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:20.000
<v Speaker 3>very like twenty twenty one, so it's been pretty surreal.

1:04:20.080 --> 1:04:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I actually finally got on and like, I really enjoyed

1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:25.200
<v Speaker 3>talking to you. It was great and like such a

1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:25.880
<v Speaker 3>cool experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks brother. Hopefully, you know, I don't know what the

1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:31.600
<v Speaker 2>future is like for me and my live stuff, but

1:04:32.000 --> 1:04:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully i'll get something going next year in

1:04:34.760 --> 1:04:37.160
<v Speaker 2>New York and you can come through. It'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, I would love that. I will be there

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<v Speaker 3>if you do something in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, beautiful, take care, Jared, Good luck, Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, gex I'll see you.

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<v Speaker 2>See you.

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<v Speaker 3>Man goes on the line. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just teaching you an expert